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November 10, 2025 36 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • The government shutdown & Scott Bessent vs. George Stephanopoulos 
  • Help with decluttering
  • Mamdani shows us who he is
  • Resignations at the BBC

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and
Jettie and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Seventy one percent of flights are delayed on Saturday. We're
all because of staffing issues. And since the beginning of
the shutdown, more than four million passengers have personally experienced
travel troubles.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
M Okay, it's a bit of a misleading stat how
many millions of travelers get delays on a regular weekend.
I wonder quite a few, as that is just the
way flying is in the United States now. But no,
it's a huge problem. The headline being the shutdown is
going to end this week. Eight senators Democrats crossed and said,
we'll vote to end this thing without getting any of

(00:58):
the stuff that we're demanding for the last forty days.
And that's seen by some as caving. I don't know
how else you would see it, uh, but the shutdown
is going to end this week. Government workers be back
to work Thursday. Now unraveling the whole airport thing. Don't
have any idea how long that's gonna take. Because the
Transportation Secretary Duffy announced a whole bunch of air traffic

(01:20):
controllers retired during the shutdown, which seems weird to me.
I mean, you didn't have any expectation that it was
going to last more than a couple of weeks. You
had a date in mind when you're going to retire,
but you moved it up because of the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
That just seems weird to me. That's hard to imagine
why that would happen.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
But I could see a certain number of them saying
I'm sick of this crap in general working for the government.
I've got my pension, blah blah blah. But yeah, that
is an interesting phenomenon regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Apparently that happened, and so when the airport's you know,
are operating back at full power, they might not just
have enough air traffic controllers. So we'll have to see
how that plays out over the week. I was going
to fly in and out of LA this next weekend.
Completely forgot about the shut down and went to book
in a flight yesterday and it was like usually there's

(02:16):
fifty choices, there were like two. So, I mean, it
had a huge impact on the availability of flights night
and day. So how long that lasts. I do not know,
but the shutdown is going to come to an end
this week Yesterday on the talk shows, most of the
Sunday talk shows that God, I hope you don't watch them.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
What a waste of time. Oh I'm sorry, I knew
I had one thing to say about the shutdown. I
think Chuck Schumer nosferatu. Schumer has absolutely screwed himself because
the people who caved, and that's a decent enough word,
they're pissed off at him forever putting him in this
position because modern Democrats knew this was a joke the
entire time. So he's accomplished nothing but grown resentment among

(02:56):
his caucus in the American people. He's still going to
get primary from his left and his left on the timeline,
if you know what I mean. As he is a
very old dude. So yeah, it was it was like
a last ditch gamble and it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Go away. That's right.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
He's up against He's up against a Costiu Cortes and
actuary tables.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
He's got both of them, Influencer Sandy Cortes.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And Father Time all coming for him. So the shutdown
is going to end yesterday, though, on the stupid Sunday
talk shows, most of them led with it like it
was the biggest crisis in America. Unless you're planning to
fly or you eat off the government dime, you weren't
paying that much attention to the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
AnyWho.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Scott Bessant, who's the Secretary of the Treasurer, was on with.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
George Stephanopolis.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
George Stephanopolis was a key player in the Democratic Party
back in the day Clinton White House, and they got
into an argument about previous shutdowns and Scott Besson had
done a little research and was ready to go on that.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
And here's turned out President.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Continues to post about ending the filibuster. Is that is
that the best way to end the shutdown right now?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Is that what the administrative position is?

Speaker 6 (04:08):
No, George, best the best way to do it? And look,
you were involved in a lot of these in the nineties,
and you know you you basically called the Republicans terrorist,
and you know you said that it is not the
responsible party that keeps the government closed. And so what
we need is five brave moderate Democratic senators to cross

(04:29):
the aisle, because right now it is fifty two to three,
fifty two to three five Democrats can cross the aisle
and reopen the government. That's the best way to do it.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
George.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
I can disagree with you about the history there, but
we don't have a history lesson right now.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Let's talk about George, George.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Let's talk about what's happening, right Yeah. I asked all
your quesotes here, I've got all your and I'm sure
you do, and let's talking about that situation.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Read your book, so you got one one purchased on
Amazon this week, and that's very much what you said.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
It's as miss characterization of history.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
But I do want to talk about right now. Yeah, okay,
that's so.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Fox had up on the TV screen today the quotes
from George Stephanopolis at the time, in some of the
quotes from his book where he didn't call the Republicans
terrorists for shutting down the government, and how behind the
scenes he was going to try to portray it as
this and that when he knew they weren't gonna blah
blah blah. It was the exact same game that everybody
had been playing this past week.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I like that, though him said, well, let's not talk
about the past, let's talk about today. No, no, let's not
go back into the past. Okay, that's a mischaracterization of
what I said, is that this whole stupid game, it's
just so stupid. Hopefully this is the last shutdown of
my lifetime. They all in the.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Same way, with a whimper, and nobody gained a freaking thing, and.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
It was just a stupid waste of time.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well, and it's instructive that they didn't drag a fifth
Democratic you know, for second, third, fourth, and fifth. Additional No,
eight of them said yeah, this is stupid.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
We're done.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
So all right, Yeah, like you said, let's just put us,
put this behind us, and never speak of it again.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
On the whole shutdown thing, the some of the mainstream
media or left meaning or trying to present it as
a Democratic win, I don't know what that is. But
on your more fair media they're quoting all kinds of
Democrats who were the progressive wing of the Democratic Party
is horrified that they gave in on it with the
idea that, look, we had such a great night a
week ago with the election, we got the win at

(06:37):
our back. Why did we cave now? This was terrible.
So we'll see how this plays out in terms of
an intra party fight.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, so they're trying to claim it's some sort of
big victory. Wow, well, I guess you just do that.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
You know, the Orwellian principle at its most base. Just
you know, you lost by three touchdowns. It was a
great win for our team. I'm really proud of our boys.
And you'd leave a certain number of people be fuddled
and or convinced you had to win.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Can't hurt.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
People are so conditioned a lying I hear that and think,
what a bunch of liars. But there's a certain number
of impressionable fools out there probably think, yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Stood up for the little man.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
The Gavin Newsom, for instance, said we saw capitulation and
a betrayal of working Americans. The American people need more
from their leaders. That's what he said about the Democrats
giving in. Rocanna said Senator Schumer is no longer effective
and should be replaced. If you can't lead a fight
to stop healthcare premiums from skyrocking, what will you fight for? Well,

(07:39):
Cossio Cortes was horrified that they gave in and how.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
This is affecting people's lives. So we'll see.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I hope it didn't throw a pretty little brow. Oh my,
all right, So can I say something.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's not misogynists, but it could be portrayed that way,
and it's not very nice.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
AOC's chunking up Katie.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's the wow, wow, there was so much wrong with that.
Where to begin?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I haven't noticed.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
She's maturing Jack as a young woman. She's moved into
her thirties and still having legislated not a whit as
an Instagram influencer.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Maybe she's setting herself up for a Wigov endorsement.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here's the only reason I comment under track feed. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
There's one of the only reasons I comment on the
fact that she's chunking up is when she got elected.
I remember talking to our old producer Sean, who was
a lefty and you know, in favor of her sort
of politics. I said, what percentage of her getting elected
had to do with her looks?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
He's just very, very.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Attractive, Yeah, he said, probably ninety percent.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
He's been agreeing with their politics, he said.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
So that's why you know that that was a lot
of her appeal that got her in the door, don't
you think?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Media wise?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, she's got eyes like a Disney princess and
is built like a brick Capital. I mean it's uh,
it's there's a lot to like there, and she's got
that little prom date voice of hers and everything.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's very alluring to many men. Ah, Capital's got a
gym in the basement. Figure out this.

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(09:51):
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even happening.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Maybe she's eating all the snap benefits. Maybe that's what
the problem is.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
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really like it.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
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Speaker 1 (10:16):
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Speaker 3 (10:17):
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Speaker 3 (10:48):
Executive producer hands and actually first brought this to my
attention a couple of weeks ago when some buddy made
the comment that she's entered her me a Boeila stage,
which is Spanish and I'm sure I'm pronouncing it incorrectly.
It's just what, you know, we all get older and
we gain weight, but you know, it's kind of the
grandmother gaining weight phrase for uh, you know, in the

(11:12):
Mexican culture, she's entering her mea waylass stage.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I find this entire discussion objectionable, sexist, ablest sizest.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I don't even know these words. I see them now
and again, certainly not nice.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I do want to bring to the hot new trend
for organizing your house, Joe Hat's hot new trends, the
ninety ninety rule to make it to get rid of
clutter before the holiday season hits and people start coming
to your home.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Somebody name one of the hot new trends we were
talking about two weeks ago. Go ahead, talk to me
about the lasting impact it had Waiting waiting Plus the
Rogues Gallery at the Zoron Mumdani victory party.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
He told us exactly who he is at that party.
We need to break that down for you. Cool Rogues gallery.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Lots on the way stay here.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Officials in Ireland are saying that reports of a lion
wandering in the woods was actually just a dog with
a new haircut. Ireland, I guess we are pretty drunk.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
There's a lion. It's a little small bunch a little lion.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Okay, you're gonna hate this, but this is a whole
bunch of different catchy trends for decluttering. Pick whichever one
you like. I've got a serious clutter problem. I'm a
clean person. I do not have filth, but I do
have clutter. I didn't before I had kids, but since
I had kids, I got horrible clutter.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I cannot afford to be cynical about decluttering either.
So let's hear it, and there are a bunch of
the ninety ninety rule. Maybe that works for you, the
eighty twenty rule, the twelve twelve twelve challenge, the four
box method.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's just a few of the opportunities. Did he clutter
ninety ninety rule? If you haven't used it in the
last ninety days and you don't think you're going to
use it in the next ninety days, it's gotta go now.
I can think of exceptions to that, but I suppose
most of the time it works.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm going to look through my garage. That's a good
one for the garage.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, like I here's one exception, but doesn't mean this
isn't mostly true. I've been carrying around my Mad magazines.
I subscribe to Mad Magazine when I was a kid
for years and years and years and years, and I've
been carrying them around for forty years.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Haven't used them once.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
But now finally, my kid, my thirteen year old has
reached the age where he's really into him, and he
sits around and reads him and I really enjoy him
reading the same magazine I read when I was his age.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm glad to have. It's funny that it holds up.
That's great, but mostly it's true.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
The eighty twenty rule, which is completely different than the
ninety ninety calm, dictates that your stuff should only take
up eighty percent of a given space a closet, a drawer,
or a bookshelf, leaving twenty percent empty so you can
buy more stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Man, I'm the opposite.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I got one hundred and five percent of stuff stuffed
into every closet and it's just dumb. Most of it
I'm never gonna wear or don't use. And then I
fight to get a shirt or a jacket in or
out all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Just dumb. It's just dumb.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
The twenty ten rule instructs people to declutter or organize
for twenty minutes, then take a ten minute break, then
twenty minutes and then.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Ten minute break.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Okay, I have I have found with my personality type
if I and it's not very often this happens. If
I get on a cleaning jag. I better go until
I drop because it might be a long time. Katie's
not ingranded, it might be a long time before I
get on a cleaning jag again.

Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yeah, I sit down for a ten minute break. I'm
not I'm not gonna get back to aunt.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, that's that's a dumb rule.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Wait till you're frustrated enough with yourself that you start
the job. Then work like a maniac until you're so
sick of it you can't do it anymore, Rinse, and repeat.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
A couple of months later, Like.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
The three times a year I get on a cleaning
organizing kick, I think, Wow, this must be what it's
like for other people who do this all the time.
I'm enjoying this, like I can't stop myself. I'm so motivated.
But then, yeah, if I decide, I'll watch the baseball
game and then I'll get back to No, ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
It's over, and it might be next June before I
do it again.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Judy was out of town for like five days last
week and over the weekend, and things got a little
cluttery and I actually made up a stupid little song.
I don't remember the melody, so I'm not going to
inflict it upon you. But the lyrics were essentially, go
room to room and pick s up because I was
trying to remember what I wanted to do with the
day and I came up, Just go from one room

(15:54):
to the other and pick s up.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's not where it's supposed to be, right, I'd say
it to myself as I went from room. I hate
so much, like I want to be clutter.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
But the first thing I pick up when I get
home today, I mean the first thing i'd pick up,
I'd be like, where should this go?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't have a specific spot for this. I don't
know where to put this.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Just putting it in a different room isn't actually organizing.
Just putting it in a room and closing the door
isn't really organizing.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
God dang it, I'm just so bad at it. When
it comes to cleaning.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
For me, my rule is if it'll take me less
than a minute I do it right, then.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's a good idea. That's a really good idea.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
How about the twelve twelve twelve challenge, Oh boy, that
calls for finding twelve items to throw away or recycle,
twelve to donate and twelve to put back in their
proper place. It turns decluttering into a game everyone can play.
Well that's a not fun game. Well, come on, kids,
we're not going to the amusement park today. We're gonna

(16:52):
do the twelve twelve twelve challenge. There's the four box method.
This involves setting out four empty boxes in your living
room that you've labeled trash, donate, keeper, relocate.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's a good one. That is Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, you get infrastructure in place so you can move
more efficiently.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
Right, and then Keith the keep box you seal, you
put somewhere in the garage and forget about it.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, and then go through it next year when the
fourteen to fourteen to eight challenge. How about the core
four method? Oh there are more From God, there's a bunch.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Kylene Kelly came up with this to describe the process
for tackling stuff. The four steps are clear out, categorize,
cut out, contain. The two minute rule dictates it a
f A tack This is yours. Basically, Katie only Longer
dictates that if a task can be completed in two
minutes or less, always do it immediately. Don't put it off. Yeah,
I like that, whether it's one minute or two minute. Yeah,

(17:48):
one three five rule, Okay, I don't know. If I
didn't get to the one in one out rule, don't
be a slob.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Would be a good rule. One in one out. I
presume that's similar to the twelve twelve twelve thing. So
a zoron.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Mom Donnie at his victory party appeared with a gallery
of rogues.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
He is telling us exactly who he is. More on
that to come stay with us, Armstrong and Getty on
Tuesdays are on.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Mom Donnie was elected mayor.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
Fitting he was elected What a lot of flu off fans.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
He was elected mayor despite his opponent, Andrew Cuomo, receiving
endorsements from Donald Trump and Eric Adams, which is like
trying to bring a girl home by saying, not to brag,
but I have hepatitis B and C.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
The main point of that clip was the young New
York crowd's reaction to the Communist winning.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
They're thrilled.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Boy, I'm tempted right now. I had a different plan
but to go into Alicia Finley's brilliant piece that came
out for the weekend Great Inflation produced Mum Donnie's proletariat,
and she goes, it's brilliant. Get into that next hour.
I hope you can stay with us. Would you agree?

(19:18):
It's kind of a truism that candidates give you an
extra like shiny, nice, acceptable version of themselves during the election, Jack,
I mean the general election. Well just yeah, yeah, I
mean in an election, a politician is trying to come
off as acceptable as possible, as opposed to authentic. It

(19:43):
is an idealized version of themselves.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oddly enough, I think the people that are closer to
authentic seem to win more often.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
But yeah, that's generally what happens.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
So Zamdanni, who the the free beacon character, I this
is a trust fund communist ha a promise to improve
the lives working people by giving away free stuff, which
explains why some of his biggest margins were among voters
with advanced degrees. But then they mentioned his big victory party.

(20:17):
Alex Soros, the billionaire son of George Soros, celebrated by
posting a photo of himself hosting Mandani, who wants to
abolish billionaires at his luxury penthouse. The American Dream continues,
he wrote in the caption, that's just odd But here's
the part that really bothered me. Here's a charming image

(20:37):
from the Mamdani victory party. This is a single photograph
which includes Mehdi Hassan, who is fired by MSNBC for
his belligerent anti Semitism, standing next to Hassan Piker, an
influencer who said the USA deserved nine to eleven and

(20:58):
lamented that the the Soviet Union was defeated in the
Cold War. We'll get more into that.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Next to him is Mahmoud Khalil, the Columbia activist fighting
deportation who refused to condemn Hamas and said October seventh
had to happen. And Jamal Bowman, who you may recall,
paniced in a vestibule. He had a moment of panic
in a vestibule. According Dios say he blamed his reelection

(21:26):
loss on Jews using money to brainwash voters. These are
the people Zorn celebrated his victory with.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
In case you didn't.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Catch what Joe said there earlier, the biggest story out
of that, and we talked about it last week, and
in case you didn't hear it, is that Zoron only
one because of college educated people, the working class, the
non college educated.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
What for Cuomo.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yes, so he stands up there as the leader of
the proletariat against the you know, the elite. He won
the elite, and there are enough elite in New York
for him to be the mayor.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
He lost the working class. You know, it's wild nobody's
reporting it that way. Oh, I know, I know in
his speech about I stand up for the immigrant this
and the working class that no, you didn't get their votes.
They wanted to have nothing to do with you.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
That's why, right, And the fact that nobody's reporting on
it is just obscene. But anyway, you know, we've got
to get to that Alicia Finley piece, and now's the
perfect time. But I just wanted to mention really quickly
that far left radicals like streamer Hassan Piker.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
And Squad member Jamal Bowman.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Who declared that America is at the heart of the
Imperial War and that socialism is not a dirty word anymore.
Piker said, this is a country that defeated the USSR.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Wow, everyday Americans, in spite of their lack of class consciousness,
are finally arriving at the conclusion that perhaps there's an
alternative out there. There is an alternative that focuses on
them as opposed to the interests of the billionaires in million.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Wow, that's crazy. Okay. So in a vow you grow
Soviet communists.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Usually people like communism or socialism, kind of in a
vacuum with the you know, it's never been tried properly attitude.
But na when a specific example of an obviously failed
country like the USSR, you're disappointed that they lost to us.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
And they mentioned Van Jones, observing that his speech was
not the warm, open embracing guy, but very edgy, very angry.
His tone was sharp, almost yelling. Piker was there who
just said Americas deserved nine to eleven. When they saw
Mood Khalil, the anti Semitic leader at Columbia, they cheered
and invited him on camera and hugged him.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Ah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
They asked to the hosts of Mehdi Hassan. I asked
the streamer, how do you feel about a socialist mayor?
I feel electric, I feel amazing. Let's see, there's there's
more to this, but yeah, he's he's really he's showing
exactly what he really is.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
And always was.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
But so here's the part I love from Alicia Finley.
Great inflation produced Mamdonnie's proletariat, unemployable college grads blame capitalism,
but the real culprit is higher ed subsidence. So this
is the sort of thing that you good people really
enjoy hearing about, and it helps us all understand the world.
But it's probably too complicated and subtle for it to

(24:27):
make it into the political conversation, which is a little frustrating.
But they quote, first of all, Pallanteer CEO Alex Karp,
who's a really interesting guy, Carp with a K. He's
an avowed reasonable conservative, but he attributed Mum Donnie's election
is New York Mayor to a reverse class warfare.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I think the average IVY League IVY League grad voting
for this mayor is highly annoyed that their education is
not that valuable. And the person down the street who
knows how to drill for oil and gas, who's moved
to Texas has a or valuable profession.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He has a point.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
She writes, colleges are graduating hordes of young people who
lack hard or even soft skills, even as employers complain
about the dearth of qualified workers. A growing college educated
proletariat can't find jobs they want to work. They believe
their degrees aren't adequately rewarded by the free market, and
they blame capitalism.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Wow, that's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
So even if you talk about real degrees as opposed
to like the grievances studies, You know, you came out
with a woman's studies degree or something, what would you
possibly do with that? But even if you I was
having this conversation with my son yesterday, be getting into
a paleontology program. So you graduate, you got a master's
in paleontology, the world doesn't owe you a job just

(25:46):
because you decided to spend six years discovering fossils or
a studying fossils.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
If there's not a reason for someone to employ you
with that knowledge, you just ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
But I think that's just such a good observation. We
are cranking out these college graduates and they believe their
degrees are not adequately rewarded by the free market, and
they blame capitalism. And then she points out the real
culprit is enormous government subsid subsidization of higher education, which
has distorted.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
The labor supply.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
More than seven million bachelor's degree recipients have entered the
labor for US in the last five years. Meanwhile, the
number of workers without college degrees is shrunk by about
two hundred thousand, and those with associate degrees is shrunk
by one point one million. Baby boomers and blue collar
professions are retiring. Labor shortages are growing in industries like construction, trucking,

(26:41):
and manufacturing. The deportations have compounded the problem. Nearly fifty
percent of small business owners report feweror no qualified job applicants,
and they quote a couple of people saying we need
to teach trades in high school again.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Trade jobs can pay.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, but there's a real shortage of those willing and
able to do the jobs. But here's circling back to
one of our major points. I think fortunately for many
college grads, they have parents with the means to support
them financially well they search for the perfect job. Young
adults with lesser pedigrees may not be as picky about
jobs they can't afford to pass up on. They'll be

(27:19):
they will deliver packages for Amazon or man a supermarket
cash register to pay their bills, but recent college grads
view such drudgery as beneath them and think employers are
too demanding. New York Times op ed just last week,
quote for gen Zers, work is now more depressing than unemployment.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Dwell on that headline for a minute.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's clearly true and doesn't surprise me. May that's a
bad place for society to end up. You'd rather be
living in your parents' basement looking for the perfect job
in quotes, for a job that is not beneath you
than is supporting yourself.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
The insult of taking a job that's available, so the.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Person that's driving Uber and doing Amazon drop offs and
maybe bartending all to live in an apartment by themselves
is looked down upon by the person living with their parents.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That's not a good societal norm.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
The author of the piece writs. The entire process of
getting and keeping an entry level job has become a
grueling and dehumanizing ordeal over the past decade. Young people
grouse that employers are monitoring their productivity with surveillance state
technologies and expecting them to do six jobs in a
forty hour work week. Alicia Finley writes, heaven forfend that
they be asked to complete multiple assignments in a week,

(28:41):
like kids in grade school were once expected to do,
and how dare employers refuse to pay them for scrolling TikTok?
And then she goes into the fact that and this
is really this is where it hits home.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's understandable.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Grades grads might feel indignant about employer demands after having
earned stellar GP for little effort and mediocre work, their
life experience has taught them that.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
They don't need to work hard.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
A recent Harvard report found that a's account for sixty
percent of the grades, compared with twenty five percent just
two decades ago. Some eighty percent of grades are ordered
at Yale in twenty twenty three were a's or as
is eighty percent. It almost requires an effort to get
a C.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I don't know about the world of Harvard and Yale
looking for a job, but just coming out of college
in general, if you were a straight A student and
you went to college, you probably think there's somebody out
there that wants to.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Hire you right well right, and you have become a
superachiever with a certain level of effort, and that seems
to you to be the price level as it were,
of effort that you have to get to achieve, you know,
high level success. And what you didn't realize is that

(29:59):
that was like a government price cap. It was a
market that was distorted by the inflated grades, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
JOHNS.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Hopkins. Political scientist Yash Mounk repeats an old joke I
remember about the Soviet Union. A worker says, we pretend
to work and they pretend to pay us, And Alicia
Finley writes to an uncomfortable degree, American universities now work
in a similar fashion. Students pretend to do their work
and academics pretend to grade them. Parents and students who
pay eighty thousand dollars a year expect high marks in return,

(30:31):
and mister Mumdanni's supporters are rightly angry, She writes about
the value of their degrees and how their earnings have declined.
Instead of blaming their woes on capitalism or Israel, they
ought to be protesting big government in greedy colleges.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's why Mumdani won.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
All did over under educated, you know, soft graded little
college graduate.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
You can't blame the kids, though, I mean we we
adults created this world. You can't blame somebody who went
to a good university and got really good grades for thinking,
what now I can't find a job. Something must be
wrong with the system.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, I can blame well, No, you can't blame the
kids because they didn't raise themselves. I can blame the
progressive left, though, sure, for clogging up the universities with
all these deans and administrators and dei staffs and the
rest of it, and becoming a poor profit, you know,

(31:31):
customer service business where the plucky youngsters and their parents
expect to see luxury dorms and delicious food and great
gyms and recreation and the rest of it. It's become
a day camp as opposed to a college or university.
And then they get out and capitalism doesn't reward them

(31:51):
adequately to pay off their obscene loans, and so they
blame capitalism.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, makes sense, that makes sense. It makes more sense
than anything I thought.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
About or her. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I just saw on TV a highlight from the Lions
Detroit Lions Washington Redskins game, and Trump was there in
the booth doing color commentary.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
We played some of that earlier.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Anyway, one of the Troit gront Lions scored a touchdown,
points up at Trump in the Booth and then does
the Trump dance.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, so good. Well that's funny. Obviously on the sideline,
the guys were talking about, Hey, Trump's up there. You're
kidding up doing the Trump dance.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yes, we'll play some of that Trump in the Booth
among a lot of the things we've got coming up.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Stay here now, I know you go way back with
the sport of football. You played at New York Military Academy.
How old were you when you started playing football? And
what were some of the life lessons Who took out
of it?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I did.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I played tight end, but I mean it was not
quite football like this. It was a little bit easier.
It wasn't so tough, and we had a quarterback who
didn't have a very strong arm. I would say ten
yards was a long pass, so you were never tackled.
If I was sackled by him, I would never forget it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I want a Trump thing to do. Our quarterback didn't
have a very good arm. Sixty years later, we'll run
him unto the bus. He's in a home somewhere. Yeah, right,
interesting thing I heard on Fox though. So that was
Trump last night at the Washington Commander's Detroit Lions game,
and the President was in the booth there and there
talking showed a picture of him when he was playing

(33:29):
football in high school. But he played baseball in high
school and actually was actually apparently was fairly good at it.
And Trump mentioned how first game he ever played, he
hit two home runs and there was a headline in
the paper, Trump hits home runs. And they actually showed
the headline on Fox, and I thought this was interesting
part he said, I realized at that moment, having your

(33:50):
name in the headlines is good. And he did that
for the rest of his life and still does. Speaking
of which, he's ordering the people to work at airports
to get back to work, get back to work, like
now today.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
The shutdown is going to end this week.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Eight Democrats came across and voted, even though they didn't
get any concessions on the whole healthcare thing other than
an agreement to discuss it next month. But so the
shutdown's gonna end. It's gonna take a while to get
flying back to normal. And Trump's saying get back to work.
That's one interesting story. The other one is they just
announced they're gonna sue. Trump's gonna sue the BBC for

(34:29):
a billion dollars. This happened overnight. It's not getting near
the attention it should be getting. The top two people
at the BBC, which is the biggest news organization on
planet Earth, is pretty much NPR for Earth and about
it's fair in its news coverage most of the time.
The BBC got caught editing a documentary that they dropped

(34:52):
a week before our presidential election last year, in which
they'd taken two parts from Trump's speech on January sixth,
two things Trump said that we're an hour apart, putting
it together to make it look way more like he
had called for the riot at the Capitol. I mean,
it's just awful journalism. You should not be able to

(35:12):
get They got away with it for a whole year.
The Telegraph put out an article last week saying, well,
what we looked into this, This editing is ridiculous. Hell
came down on the BBC from a bunch of quarters,
including people who worked there and.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
The top two people that resigned last night. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Interestingly, the BBC commissioned this journalist to advise the BBC
on standards and guidelines and what he found shocked him
and he unleashed the hounds on the BBC itself, said
serious systematic is systematic systemic bias, rather accused the BBC
of terrible and bias coverage of transgender issues as well

(35:52):
as the network's anti Israel bias. Just slammed them.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Well, you have it wrong, apparently because the headed the
BBC until last night, Tien and the head of News,
Deborah Turnus said it was just an error of judgment.
In hindsight, they made a mistake. God, that is unbelievable.
You got caught fabricating something completely. I mean, that is

(36:15):
just outrageous. The world's largest and oldest broadcaster. Yeah, Trump's
suing him, which will put it in the headline

Speaker 1 (36:25):
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