November 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Protecting women's spaces
- No questions asked policies
- Social media creators & freedom of speech
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jettie and Key Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So in China they have something called a social credit
score where the government keeps track of, like how good
a citizen you are? Do you pay your taxes on
time and show up to work and do the stuff
the Communist Party wants you to do and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How obedient are you?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And they keep track of that sort of stuff and
it plays a role in your life, trying to move jobs,
get a different house, that sort of thing. I hate
the idea of the government doing that, but I like
the idea of the private sector doing it. And it's
happening more and more, and we'll talk about that coming up.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
So, speaking of misbehavior, Riley Gaines has been an absolutely
courageous spokesperson for women's sports, women's private places, and women's
rights in general, and on college campuses where undergrads are
majority women. The reception she's gotten has been absolutely horrific.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I have been in several environments, especially on these hotbeds,
these college campuses, where I have been spit on of course,
I mean the most profane, obscene, heinous things yelled at me,
drinks port on me, glass bottles thrown at me. There
was an incident in San Francisco where I was literally
held hostage for five hours, where protesters, the mob, the angry,
violent mob on the outside, demanded that I had to
(01:38):
pay them money if I wanted to make it back
home to my family safely. All while university officials, the
dean of students, the vice president of student affairs at
the university, they applauded the students for their brave behavior,
saying that people like me, with our dissenting viewpoints, we
were the ones who were basically asking for this.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, the whole transgender cult thing. How else to describe
of you so adamant and fevered that you would behave
like that when a young woman was trying to protect
women's sports and women's private areas like locker rooms and
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bathrooms and stuff. I mean, you are nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You don't mean a private area like her, yahoo, good lord,
I mean the space she's in.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You're an idiot, and I will not dignify that. Speaking
of people standing up for women's rights, this is such
an interesting little episode in the history of that Tisheimen
is the name of the black lady. You may have
seen her who was aghast when she was bare naked
at the Gold Gym in Los Angeles and turned and
(02:48):
there was a full grown man looking at her, and
she told aforementioned fella to get the hell out. He said,
he said, I'm a woman, I get to be near
and started screaming at her that she was a bigot
and misgendering him and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We played you that well. Tish, to her.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Credit, traveled north to the San Francisco Bay area and
attended a town hall meeting being held by none other
than the world's leading pervert, Scott Wiener, who hopes to
hold Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat soon. And she Tish was
asking Scott about protecting women, and it took some really
(03:29):
interesting turns.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We'll start with seventy Michael as.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
A lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's locker
room a gold shin this week by a self identifying
trends women with a documenting history of domestic violence. I'm
deeply concerned about women's safety and female only spaces. What
would you say to women who are seeking assurance that
their safety will be protected.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
From men who, by California law and.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Self idea as women in twomen only spaces.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Sir, please tell.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Yeah, so we want, I mean everyone to be safe.
And we also know that you know, we have trans
trans people both men and women who are men and women.
Uh and so uh you know we so if you're
trans women are women.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
What a floundering, fumbling, bumbling effort to translate the academia
talk Scott Wiener's memorized into like real world language.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He just couldn't do it.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, often when you're saying stuff you don't actually believe,
it's difficult to form your sentences and thought.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think he does believe that though.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I mean he's in favor of everything from man boy
love to yeah please, he says birthing persons. He's just
said birthing persons ten years ago. He's an activist in this.
But anyway, it keeps going and he keeps getting weirder.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
And we want to know, are you going to protect
women not trans women?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Women?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Women?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Trans women are telling women women listen, we need to
protect women's safety. I was assault.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, they are not.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
They are men.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I was assaulted. My man. He broke my jaw. So
pressed you need to we can shock.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
In, sergeanty.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm a lesbian. I'm not transsault me because I'm black.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So there's another black woman you here.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I'm want to.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Tell me how they feel.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Please join it.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
But all of you are not and I don't know
who you are what you are, but I'm a lesbian
and I'm telling you right now men are harassing women
in a locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Answered the question.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's where it turns super interesting in terms of the
left eating their own because then she gets into the
wait a second, nobody can criticize me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm black, I'm a woman, and I'm gay.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Those three things leave me in the situation where you
can't possibly disagree with me. And then comes along trans
and apparently trans trumps all of those other things.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. Sorry, black lesbian ladies.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I wish we could help you here, but you're getting
back of line place. Yeah yeah, And I loved and listen,
I'm not on her side of the intersectional totem pole
battle thing, but I love the dynamic of white men
trans cultists saying trans women are women, trans women are women,
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trans women are women.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Right, so you got you have adult white males who
all of a sudden end up in the in the
right using my finger quotes right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Position, correct position.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, for the woke left over a black female gay person,
because we've crossed into the trans conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Sorry, sorry, it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You need a float chart. Right.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And then she of course knows those are the cards
to play on the left, so she tries to play
that because they're.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Not always worked for her her whole life, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Then a full grown dude shows up in the locker room.
She yells out of panic and shock when he's looking
at her bare ass naked, and then she becomes the
bad person and has kicked out of Golds gym, and
now she feels, oh, shoot, this whole hierarchy of victims thing.
Sometimes it gets a little weird.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I don't I'm on her side in this conversation,
and I don't know her. Maybe she hasn't been playing
this card her whole life, although she pulled it there
pretty quickly. But there are plenty of people who do
play that card, and it works. Whether you know the
bus didn't pick you up, or you got a bad
grade in school, or they want you to pay your
rent on time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Or whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's always worked until you run into some white guys
who are on the other side of trans.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Right right, I remember, And it works in the other
way too, that you can discount, dismiss, insult anyone by
pointing out that they happen to be a white person.
I had that card first played on me like twenty
years ago. It's like, wait what, but yeah, it's popular. Anyway,
the meeting already jazz rolled on.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
That's gonna say, I appreciated of you. I'm so sorry
that you were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it.
I think we need to play the save deep all
women and that obviously that's a creditor important. Also know
bay Range women are also brutalized in this country. So women,
(08:26):
I insistent, are brutalizing the Printrea and we have to
pretend to say.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Whole of them.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
We have to start women.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We cannot be raised in the back by men that
want to say they're women. They're not women. They're not
I'm leaving. It's okay, but I'm not going to take hi.
I'm leaving because you know what you guys are not
protecting women.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're doing a lot the bills that you're.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Passing for the law.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I've read a lot of them.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They're great, But these things with the trans it's not.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Right, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
So the key phrase there is women and sis women
need protection. So sorry, worn with ovarias et cetera. People,
you're in second place. Women, real women and cis women
need to be protected in Scott Wainer's world.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, the only woman term that doesn't have a qualifier
attached is.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
To say the woman.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Exactly, Katie, you're smoldering.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I'm at a loss for words, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And as a woman who is pregnant and my body
is doing all sorts of things, this is even more
infuriating because they.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Have more I can totally relate, totally relate because I
identify as a woman. Yeah, you are a kid, my
effing teeth in for saying that, right, I'm glad you're
too far away.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
God, she just needed one more thing? Was your uncle
of Cherokee? Do you have anything?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Let's think, let's brainstorm here, the both all for your
limbs work? Okay, no, let me think, let me think
your eyesight okay, no, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
She had one more shot as she walked out the door.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
You heard me, sister, all right, don't let them use
our blackness and our civil rights as a reason to
pass bed halls, the children to transformed.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's wrong. My sister is in jail. She can't get
free tampons.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
And so or she could get free transformation of medication,
big formats, best time.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, Scott, both things.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That was a pretty good one. Would she say her
sister's in prison. Whoever's in prison, can't get tampons, but
you could get free transition surgery or medics medication.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah, Well, and made a pretty good point that don't
let our blackness. Don't let them use our blackness to
pass weird laws. Because the far far radical left, in
the neo Marxists, they use the verbiage in the rationale
of the civil rights movement to make it seem like
a dude who says now I'm a girl is the
same as you know, Emmett Till or some somebody who
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just wanted to vote in the South or attend to
public university.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's obscene we left.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Out at this Scott Wiener person because you don't know him.
All around the country like we do in the BA.
He's a Bay Area legend in government and doing all
kinds of crazy stuff in the city and then getting
into state government, all.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
This sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
He wants to take Nancy Pelosi's seat. He's gonna run
for Nancy Pelosi's seat. He could be the face of
progressivism in the House of Representatives. I almost hope he wins.
It's going to be so crazy, but I don't actually
want his point of view to be spread.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, he's pro everything that's perverse, including you know,
man boy love and that sort of thing, even if
he kind of hints at it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I'm trying to decide right now if it'd be better
or worse to have him in Congress. I would like
the I don't know. People are so easily talked off
of their beliefs in ways that shocked me, like during COVID.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And you gotta be careful with this whole. Dami wins,
that'll be good for us. Scott Wheeder wins, it'll be
good for us. Pretty Soon, there's gonna be a lot
of people in positions of power with horrifying ideas and
a lot of the sheeple and or young people who are.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Easily sold on a lot of this garbage. I just
feel bad that lady lost the intersectional contest. Yeah, she
walked in there feeling great. Who's gonna say something to
a gay black woman?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I am bulletproof. Sorry, I'm trance. Oh no, the superpower
my kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Damn it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You make a reservation on open table, you better show
up on time or you'll pay the penalty.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Among other things, on the waistair, the.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Craft mac and Cheese is releasing a new apple pie
flavor for the holidays. Because if we can't bring down
the praise of groceries, the new strategy is to just
make you not want them.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I like Kraft macaroni and cheese similar to a McDonald's burger,
which doesn't taste like a hamburger. Kraft macaroni and cheese
does not really taste like anybody else's macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's good.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, it's good. Good man, you put some ketchup on that.
Oh you don't put ketchup on your mac and cheese.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I do BBQ sauce mostly Katie, but made a face.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah I can. I've never heard of ketchup on me,
I've never heard of it. Wow, now that my kids
love it, My brothers loved it really so good, Okay,
I'll try it. Heats up so well, and it's so cheap,
It's like eighty cents for a box.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Doesn't that make you wonder whether you ought to be
putting it in your mouth?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So we've talked about this some over the years.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
A lot of companies that had a no questions asked
return policy had to change it because people were taking
advantage of it. What that means about society? And I'm
not exactly sure. I mean, how is How's Walmart, Costco
or other examples of smaller corporations able to get away
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with the no questions ask return policy for so many years,
in some cases decades, and then something changed in the culture.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Maybe social media is at that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Whose idea was it to put every idiot in contact
with every other idiot?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So the idiot who says.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, you can do this and get away with it
goes online and the other idiots realize they I don't
know what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, they either realize they can or they feel reinforced
in their scumbaggery.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That lots of people do it, so I'm going to
do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I feel guilty every time I return something, even if
it's pretty justified. I just feel like I'm doing something bad.
And I got to like really convince him, you know
this thing just doesn't work or something right.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well, you know they're thinking, okay, this might be you know,
your typical thief who's made a big deal of returning stuff.
So they're looking at you through that lens because they
have to so up.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It came the idea several years ago we talked about
this was some sort of social credit score where the
companies get together like Best Buying, Costco.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And Walmart and everybody like that, and they keep track.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Of you and oh, you're one of those scumbags. You
do this three times a year and no, we're not
gonna let you return. It gets complicated though, on trying
to force it and then people are going to claim
that's not true and that sort of stuff. But like
open table, if you've ever used those for a reservation,
there are several of them out there, and I wish
I didn't have to be logged into all of them.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But I know different.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Restaurants use different places, but they're keeping track of it too,
and sharing information with places now and going to start.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Get the reservation on a busy evening if you've got
a lower score because a couple of times you've shown
up later canceled, whereas the person who always shows up
on time.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Gets the seat. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I would kind of like to have these things all combined.
Fine with me, I'm doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I hate to be coarse. You know.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
They call it social credit scores more like a hole
credit score.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, you're right, it should go to the other direction
because it's only really going to affect you if you're
an ale.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Right, so if you've got an eight oh six, that
means you really are not an a hole at all.
You got a nice high credit rating, as it were,
you're down there in the lower reaches. Maybe not, Maybe
I want to do business with you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I would think eventually every company is going to be
doing some form of this.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'll bet you're right. Uber and Lyft already are right
they Airbnb, Yeah, yeah, I like it on every level.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And uh, you know, either you're treated accordingly, you get
you get the hotel room because you're not somebody who's
left the trash hotel room before or whatever, you know, whatever,
as long as it's private enterprise, right, as long as
it's not the government like China.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Speaking of bad ideas communism for instance, socialism, how people
are being sold on some of the terrible ideas online,
including the current anti semitism on the right. How that
whole ecosystem works if you're not hip to it is
pretty interesting and it helps explain how people end up with
such terrible ideas.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Have you heard the latest knock on Nick Fuentes in
an attempt to bring him down?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know if it's true or not.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Armstrong Andy, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That was Dave Portnoy of.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Barstool Sports fame, great entrepreneur, personality, etc. Doing a pizza
review outside a restaurant for his channels and everything, because
he's a big pizza fiend like myself. And some guy
recognized either him or that Dave is Jewish and.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Said, f the Jews. Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Dave Ruben, speaking of influencers, had a comments or two.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
The point of that clip is that there's Dave Portanoy,
a guy who cares about sports and who really loves pizza,
and he's doing a pizza review. And some kid who
likely you would have to by every estimation, that kid
whoever did that, that young man is a point DA's fan,
probably a Tucker fan. So these things then do start
manifesting into real life.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then would that kid.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
I don't know burn down a Jewish owned bakery that
happened in Germany in the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Would that happen? Like? Where does this go?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
And Dave riffs on that question for a while, and
I say, well, said the idea that even like two
years ago somebody would have said f the Jews to
Dave Portnly is he reviews a pizza, right? So I
think Dave's right, This stuff leaches into real life. And
I had a terrific piece by a terrific woman who
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writes for the Free Press, bot Ya Unger Sargon, who's
interestingly enough, authored two books, second Class, How the Elites
Betrayed America's working men and Women, and another called Bad News,
How woke media is undermining democracy. So her bona fides
on our side of you know, the ideological wars, unimpeachable,
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really really smart lady, and she talks a lot about
the whole Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson thing, the crazy crazy ass,
Candice Owens, and also some of their stuff double crazy,
crazy crazy ass, And she writes about it at fair length.
I'm just going to touch on a little bit because
then she gets to another aspect of this that I
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find interesting. But over the last decade, she writes, the
left hard everyone of the right, Joe Manchin is a fascist,
as a Nazi, as a racist.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It was always a canard.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yet now far right content creators have decided to try
to improve that the left was correct by widening the
Overton window to include the airing of Nick Fuentt as
views in an uncritical manner. And she mentioned in a
recent example, Fox News contributor or YouTuber Brett Cooper posted
a video condemning those seeking to keep actual Nazis out
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of the Republican Party. She read out an ex post
from Senator Cruz, they don't kill you because you're a Nazi.
They call you a Nazi so they can kill you,
and then accused Cruise of hypocrisy because he accurately pointed
out that fwent as admires Hitler. Cooper wrote, so now
you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you don't
like a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Did you catch the logic?
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Because the left called good hearted conservatives Nazis, Therefore, no
one can be announced as a Nazi, including people who
literally praise Hitler. What follows is all Nazis must be welcome,
because the left called people who were at Nazis Nazis. Checkmate,
neo khans. It's utterly ridiculous. I thought that was well put.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Cooper says.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
The Republicans are using the same tactics that the left
has been using against us for years.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wrong.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Again, that's not the right turning in the left. It's
the sound of Cooper and other content creators doing their
best to prove the left.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Right that conservatives are secret bigots.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Somehow they've managed to convince themselves that disagreeing with someone
is itself cancel culture. But contrary to what those sanitizing
fuintes wants you to believe, the Brew hahas and splitting
the right, it's splitting the political and cultural right from
the content creators who make their money off global online audiences.
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And the title of the piece is that the real
split on the right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What a hell heck.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
There it is influencers versus conservatives. And here's where it
gets even more interesting. Takes a turn that I found intriguing.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
With a lot of.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Conservatives using finger quotes because it's kind of a squishy
term in this case, with a lot of conservatives not
really realizing this as they take in their social media
fees every day.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, these creators have found that their online audience is
crave anti Israel content, and as a result, they've tried
to frame the dust up as being about Israel and
free speech. This is obviously nonsense. It's not a violation
of free speech to condemn someone for nodding along as
a white nationalist. Sully's everything Trump is built. It's not
cancel culture to say, actually, Nazis are bad, uh blah
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blah blah. So and she goes into some more detail
about it that I think we've covered.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
If Carlson D.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Fuente is on a show to do a thorough critique
of his anti semitism and racism, as he did of
Ted Cruz's Christian Zionism, there might have been some backlash,
but not for me. It was the unchallenged airing of
Bile in their frequentaries of agreement. That's smacked of sanitization.
Can you even imagine a person who advocates puberty blockers
for children getting such a pass from a conservative influencer.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
When fun because I watched the video with the Nick
Fuentes own with Tucker Carlson when he said, uh, Nick
Fentes mentions a date and says, you know, I know
that date Stalin's birthday. I love Stalin and Tucker says
you love Stalin and makes a face like what the f?
And we'll get to that later, which they don't. I mean,
who wouldn't interviewing somebody stop whatever you were talking about
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at that moment and say, let's do a dive into
this hole you love Stalin thing?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I mean, who doesn't stick with that subject as soon
as somebody says to you, I love Stalin, I have
his birthday memorized. Okay, what and why?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But Tucker just was like clearly shocked by that, as
any normal person would be.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Right, But we'll get to the don't circle back to
that and circle back to it.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, no, no, everything stops and you talk about that
unless you have a different purpose anyway, one more bit
of what she writes. What those defending fontes are saying
is free speech means Nazis get to be part of
our movement. And we've gotten a couple of emails from
like young folks on the right who've said, no, that's
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a lie, He's.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Not a Nazi.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Look, you can't praise Hitler, deny the Holocaust and blame
the Jews for everything and say I'm a Nazi, or
people are gonna call you a Nazi. Okay, you don't
want those people to be with you anyway. It sounds
crazy when you lay it out like that, but it's
actually driven by a very real financial incentive. Many content
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creators make their money on social media.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they
already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you, Oh,
it finds you an audience and then rewards you for
immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The
flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them.
Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting
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your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers
are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their
entire livelihood depends on it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even
seek out content like that, but I know I'm being
fed stuff that Zuckerberg or you know, whoever's in charge
at Google or whatever, that they think I want, and
so I.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Miss out on other stuff. I don't want to miss
out on other stuff. I want to see the other stuff.
Some of it I don't agree with. Some of it
I might, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed
me as a very specific sort of person right and
has only.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Given me that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And I wish, I hope there's a platform that in
the future lets you flip off your algorithm when you
want to, like what else is going on in the world,
turn off my algorithm and just give me what's popular
for everyone, or maybe you could choose other people's algorithms.
Show me the algorithm of somebody who is a Kamala.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Harris voter or whatever, so I get different news.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Because it really worries me that I'm that I'm being
funneled stuff and I have no control over.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It, right, yeah, exactly. And we've talked in a lighthearted
way about this too. You know, when, for instance, my
alma mater, the University of Illinois, is playing good football,
I'll click on college football stories more. Then all of
a sudden, my algorithms act like I'm Dabbo Sweeney himself,
you know, some college football coach, and I'll just get
flooded with it. It's like, leave me alone anyway. But
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ideologically is a much more significant example. So final part
of this. So oh, and for what it's worth, and
I don't want to sound like I we are galloping
along on a white horse in shining armor, combination of
age and you know, a fair level of financial comfort.
(26:48):
I couldn't give a crap what people agree with or
don't agree with. I am going to speak the truth
as I see it, period, and you either appreciate that
even if if you disagree, and my goodness, you're welcome
to disagree. We can still be friends. I will not
do what's being described here. I find it despicable. My
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sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed of me if
I did it, and that is a far higher standard
to me than what's in my bank account anyway. So
she describes how their entire livelihood depends on pleasing their audience,
that is, getting fed the algorithm of what they already think,
what they already believe. People point to the millions of
views popular podcasters get is proof of their influence and relevance.
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But content creators are deeply divorced from where the vast
majority of Republicans and conservatives are on many issues. And
this is why they're not reading the room. They're reading
the comments section under their videos, which are filled with
people who do not reflect the views of normal Americans.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You're right, it's a two way straight. It's bad for me.
What I was just saying that I don't want to
be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm, and this
is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back
to them is not good for them.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right, and let's see.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the heir
at his foundation, getting way off track and forgetting partly
that these platforms have global reach. So they look at
a YouTube video that has five million views and suddenly
think it means five million young American men agree with it,
and we must not anger the young men by suggesting
Hitler is bad.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And she makes a great point.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
This would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built
the most multi racial, working class coalition the Republican parties
had in generations, and many people are proud of it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
He's also Donald Trump the best friend Israel's ever had
for any US president.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yes, absolutely, and as a Jewish son in law and
his daughter converted right anyway. And she finally, she writes
up been heart to see how many Christians have stood
up and vocally denounced Fantes over the past week. That's
the way to keep power, not with Nazis or those
who would really rather.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You didn't condemn them.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Luckily, despite the best efforts of some podcasters, the GOP
seems to understand that now.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I certainly do.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Even as awful a human being as I think Nick
Flint is spreading awful things, I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Want to be unfair to him.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So I'm gonna say I don't have any idea if
this next thing I'm about to say is true or
not this stuff I saw on Twitter, but there seems
to be an attempt to bring him down. I mean,
he's got powerful enemies with some videos I saw of
him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have sex with
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underage other dudes and.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Saying some things that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
At least it looked like the way they were portrayed
in these videos as him being pretty interested in younger guys.
Like I said, I don't have any idea if these
are AI creations or if they're true or not. Even
as bad as I think Nick Flints is, I don't
want to claim this if I don't know if it's true,
But there is that attempt out there to make him
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that sort of person. Now, some of the statements he's
made about his sexuality and and everything like.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That, it's pretty weird.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, he's in a weird he's in a weird place sexually.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He's an edge lord too.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
He's he's constantly saying things that are meant to offend
and shock.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So thing he thinks all women are.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh yeah that he said the only really straight heterosexual
position is to be an asexual inceell. He refers to
himself as a Nazi twink, submissive gay man.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
What's interesting about the people trying to run him down
is there's a great piece in The Free Beacon about
how the New York Times we yes, okay, attractive, Wow,
Swipe left or right or whichever one it is. Well,
what's interesting is the Free Beacon as a terrific piece
about how the New York Times and others are trying
to elevate this guy because then they can they go
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with the the the narrative that corese here's here's your conservative.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
So that's the problem, Like pictures that are touched up
to make him look extra handsome and cool in the
New York Times.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is there, My god, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So you're trying to elevate a Nazi.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
And give him more of a platform, make him more money,
make him more popular because you think ultimately that will
hurt the other side.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Right, It's like if a guy like me gave five
thousand dollars to Donnie's campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Man, you talk about that idea.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Not seeing the force for the trees or whatever saying
fits this, But wow, cutting off your nose despite your face.
I know there's some saying that fits this situation, but
I'm not sure what it is. You're cutting off the
baby to despite the bath walk exactly, cutting the loaf
in half, I don't know what we'll finished strong next time.
I am completely confused as to what's going on with
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the Epstein story, this political battle. So earlier, we had
this Democratic Representative Robert Garcia. We played little bit of
him saying more Epstein files will be released, but he
received twenty three thousand documents a few days ago around Epstein.
That's a Democrat using that as a bit of a threat,
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kind of a vague threat. Now the Republicans are out
with their vague threat that says, this is the headline
from the New York Times, Republicans on the Oversight Committee
have released twenty thousand, twenty three thousand pages of documents.
Take that that's the same number. It's the same documents, right,
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It's gotta be okay. I mean they both.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Claim twenty three thousand.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
But so you havet this Democratic congressman saying I've received
twenty three thousand documents from the Epstein files, will be
releasing them over the next couple of days. And then
they had a couple of quotes in there that were
like meaningless to us. Now the Republicans are saying, we
have just in the Oversight Committee released twenty three thousand
documents around the Epstein files, and we are going to
show the Democrat that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Who released these and who is it hurting.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
The Republicans are saying, no, you're not going to trip
them out here. They are read them if you want.
There's nothing to hide here. You think that's what happened, Yeah, yeah,
it's The Democrats are trying to make it sound like
this is a brand new discovery. It's full of great
evidence and we're going to bring it to you bit
by bit. And the Republicans are like, read it if
you want.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Or they cleverly forced the Republicans' hands, and now the
Republicans had to release all this stuff that some people
have been asking to release anyway, including lots of Republicans,
like Republicans I know who are very upset that these
documents hadn't been released. I would get the nothing Burger
with fries, because nothing burger is not going to be
very filly.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Maybe get nothing shake.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, my god, love.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Then the government is shut down for forty two days.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
When they finally go back to work, it's the Epstein thing,
that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's got a final thought from everybody on the crew.
I'm going to jump to the front of the line,
as is my right as host. I have given up
on the United States of America. I literally have a
window open looking at real estate in Uruguay.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Sure that's where you want to live in, not Paraguay.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
It's beautiful, Yes, I've figured out it is indeed Uruguay.
Only problem is every kitchen I've seen looks like it's
taken straight out of that seventies show. Apparently there's a
shortage of updating materials in Uruguay. Mike Langelow, are technical director,
has final thought.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
Michael, yeah, I don't know what I looked up, but
now my algorithm on my Facebook I either it's either
a toaster or food processors. That's all I get now,
nothing but adds for food processors or toasters.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
No clue how's that happened?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well, you don't want to eat raw bread like a
fool toasted up Katie Green Are a Steam Newswoman.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just need to take a chill pill for the
rest of the day because since we did that gold
Gem segment, I have been pissed.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, the left doesn't care about actual women.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Uh Jack.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
A final thought for us, Yeah, the algorithm thing that
needs to get fixed. I have a similar problem. If
I opened up YouTube right now, it would be nothing
but espresso machines and John Mary Tar lessons, and that's it.
Like those are the only two things I could ever
possibly have any interest in.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Sip the Java and play the licks. Sip the Java,
play the licks.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Armstrong and Getty raving up another grueling four hour workday.
I'm just gonna say this, Armstronggeeddy dot com, the Armstrong
and Getty store. The new kftc aprons made everybody laugh
out loud.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm getting one myself. Oh cool, we'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
God bless America.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm strong and get you. We don't want to.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
Talk about saying, we say no, is there anything here.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That we don't already know?
Speaker 8 (36:06):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
We could talk about the weather, the oh and Christmas
really starts, but we don't want to talk about the
sick Burbo who died behind bars.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No, we don't want to talk about Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jettie and Key Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So in China they have something called a social credit
score where the government keeps track of, like how good
a citizen you are? Do you pay your taxes on
time and show up to work and do the stuff
the Communist Party wants you to do and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How obedient are you?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And they keep track of that sort of stuff and
it plays a role in your life, trying to move jobs,
get a different house, that sort of thing. I hate
the idea of the government doing that, but I like
the idea of the private sector doing it. And it's
happening more and more, and we'll talk about that coming up.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
So, speaking of misbehavior, Riley Gaines has been an absolutely
courageous spokesperson for women's sports, women's private places, and women's
rights in general, and on college campuses where undergrads are
majority women. The reception she's gotten has been absolutely horrific.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I have been in several environments, especially on these hotbeds,
these college campuses, where I have been spit on of course,
I mean the most profane, obscene, heinous things yelled at me,
drinks port on me, glass bottles thrown at me. There
was an incident in San Francisco where I was literally
held hostage for five hours, where protesters, the mob, the angry,
violent mob on the outside, demanded that I had to
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pay them money if I wanted to make it back
home to my family safely. All while university officials, the
dean of students, the vice president of student affairs at
the university, they applauded the students for their brave behavior,
saying that people like me, with our dissenting viewpoints, we
were the ones who were basically asking for this.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, the whole transgender cult thing. How else to describe
of you so adamant and fevered that you would behave
like that when a young woman was trying to protect
women's sports and women's private areas like locker rooms and
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bathrooms and stuff. I mean, you are nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You don't mean a private area like her, yahoo, good lord,
I mean the space she's in.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You're an idiot, and I will not dignify that. Speaking
of people standing up for women's rights, this is such
an interesting little episode in the history of that Tisheimen
is the name of the black lady. You may have
seen her who was aghast when she was bare naked
at the Gold Gym in Los Angeles and turned and
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there was a full grown man looking at her, and
she told aforementioned fella to get the hell out. He said,
he said, I'm a woman, I get to be near
and started screaming at her that she was a bigot
and misgendering him and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We played you that well. Tish, to her.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Credit, traveled north to the San Francisco Bay area and
attended a town hall meeting being held by none other
than the world's leading pervert, Scott Wiener, who hopes to
hold Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat soon. And she Tish was
asking Scott about protecting women, and it took some really
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interesting turns.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We'll start with seventy Michael as.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
A lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's locker
room a gold shin this week by a self identifying
trends women with a documenting history of domestic violence. I'm
deeply concerned about women's safety and female only spaces. What
would you say to women who are seeking assurance that
their safety will be protected.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
From men who, by California law and.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Self idea as women in twomen only spaces.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Sir, please tell.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Yeah, so we want, I mean everyone to be safe.
And we also know that you know, we have trans
trans people both men and women who are men and women.
Uh and so uh you know we so if you're
trans women are women.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
What a floundering, fumbling, bumbling effort to translate the academia
talk Scott Wiener's memorized into like real world language.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He just couldn't do it.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, often when you're saying stuff you don't actually believe,
it's difficult to form your sentences and thought.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think he does believe that though.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I mean he's in favor of everything from man boy
love to yeah please, he says birthing persons. He's just
said birthing persons ten years ago. He's an activist in this.
But anyway, it keeps going and he keeps getting weirder.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
And we want to know, are you going to protect
women not trans women?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Women?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Women?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Trans women are telling women women listen, we need to
protect women's safety. I was assault.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, they are not.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
They are men.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I was assaulted. My man. He broke my jaw. So
pressed you need to we can shock.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
In, sergeanty.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm a lesbian. I'm not transsault me because I'm black.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So there's another black woman you here.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I'm want to.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Tell me how they feel.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Please join it.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
But all of you are not and I don't know
who you are what you are, but I'm a lesbian
and I'm telling you right now men are harassing women
in a locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Answered the question.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's where it turns super interesting in terms of the
left eating their own because then she gets into the
wait a second, nobody can criticize me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm black, I'm a woman, and I'm gay.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Those three things leave me in the situation where you
can't possibly disagree with me. And then comes along trans
and apparently trans trumps all of those other things.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. Sorry, black lesbian ladies.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I wish we could help you here, but you're getting
back of line place. Yeah yeah, And I loved and listen,
I'm not on her side of the intersectional totem pole
battle thing, but I love the dynamic of white men
trans cultists saying trans women are women, trans women are women,
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trans women are women.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Right, so you got you have adult white males who
all of a sudden end up in the in the
right using my finger quotes right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Position, correct position.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, for the woke left over a black female gay person,
because we've crossed into the trans conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Sorry, sorry, it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You need a float chart. Right.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And then she of course knows those are the cards
to play on the left, so she tries to play
that because they're.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Not always worked for her her whole life, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Then a full grown dude shows up in the locker room.
She yells out of panic and shock when he's looking
at her bare ass naked, and then she becomes the
bad person and has kicked out of Golds gym, and
now she feels, oh, shoot, this whole hierarchy of victims thing.
Sometimes it gets a little weird.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I don't I'm on her side in this conversation,
and I don't know her. Maybe she hasn't been playing
this card her whole life, although she pulled it there
pretty quickly. But there are plenty of people who do
play that card, and it works. Whether you know the
bus didn't pick you up, or you got a bad
grade in school, or they want you to pay your
rent on time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Or whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's always worked until you run into some white guys
who are on the other side of trans.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Right right, I remember, And it works in the other
way too, that you can discount, dismiss, insult anyone by
pointing out that they happen to be a white person.
I had that card first played on me like twenty
years ago. It's like, wait what, but yeah, it's popular. Anyway,
the meeting already jazz rolled on.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
That's gonna say, I appreciated of you. I'm so sorry
that you were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it.
I think we need to play the save deep all
women and that obviously that's a creditor important. Also know
bay Range women are also brutalized in this country. So women,
(08:26):
I insistent, are brutalizing the Printrea and we have to
pretend to say.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Whole of them.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
We have to start women.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We cannot be raised in the back by men that
want to say they're women. They're not women. They're not
I'm leaving. It's okay, but I'm not going to take hi.
I'm leaving because you know what you guys are not
protecting women.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're doing a lot the bills that you're.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Passing for the law.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I've read a lot of them.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They're great, But these things with the trans it's not.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Right, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
So the key phrase there is women and sis women
need protection. So sorry, worn with ovarias et cetera. People,
you're in second place. Women, real women and cis women
need to be protected in Scott Wainer's world.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, the only woman term that doesn't have a qualifier
attached is.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
To say the woman.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Exactly, Katie, you're smoldering.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I'm at a loss for words, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And as a woman who is pregnant and my body
is doing all sorts of things, this is even more
infuriating because they.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Have more I can totally relate, totally relate because I
identify as a woman. Yeah, you are a kid, my
effing teeth in for saying that, right, I'm glad you're
too far away.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
God, she just needed one more thing? Was your uncle
of Cherokee? Do you have anything?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Let's think, let's brainstorm here, the both all for your
limbs work? Okay, no, let me think, let me think
your eyesight okay, no, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
She had one more shot as she walked out the door.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
You heard me, sister, all right, don't let them use
our blackness and our civil rights as a reason to
pass bed halls, the children to transformed.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's wrong. My sister is in jail. She can't get
free tampons.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
And so or she could get free transformation of medication,
big formats, best time.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, Scott, both things.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That was a pretty good one. Would she say her
sister's in prison. Whoever's in prison, can't get tampons, but
you could get free transition surgery or medics medication.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah, Well, and made a pretty good point that don't
let our blackness. Don't let them use our blackness to
pass weird laws. Because the far far radical left, in
the neo Marxists, they use the verbiage in the rationale
of the civil rights movement to make it seem like
a dude who says now I'm a girl is the
same as you know, Emmett Till or some somebody who
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just wanted to vote in the South or attend to
public university.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's obscene we left.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Out at this Scott Wiener person because you don't know him.
All around the country like we do in the BA.
He's a Bay Area legend in government and doing all
kinds of crazy stuff in the city and then getting
into state government, all.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
This sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
He wants to take Nancy Pelosi's seat. He's gonna run
for Nancy Pelosi's seat. He could be the face of
progressivism in the House of Representatives. I almost hope he wins.
It's going to be so crazy, but I don't actually
want his point of view to be spread.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, he's pro everything that's perverse, including you know,
man boy love and that sort of thing, even if
he kind of hints at it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I'm trying to decide right now if it'd be better
or worse to have him in Congress. I would like
the I don't know. People are so easily talked off
of their beliefs in ways that shocked me, like during COVID.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And you gotta be careful with this whole. Dami wins,
that'll be good for us. Scott Wheeder wins, it'll be
good for us. Pretty Soon, there's gonna be a lot
of people in positions of power with horrifying ideas and
a lot of the sheeple and or young people who are.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Easily sold on a lot of this garbage. I just
feel bad that lady lost the intersectional contest. Yeah, she
walked in there feeling great. Who's gonna say something to
a gay black woman?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I am bulletproof. Sorry, I'm trance. Oh no, the superpower
my kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Damn it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You make a reservation on open table, you better show
up on time or you'll pay the penalty.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Among other things, on the waistair, the.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Craft mac and Cheese is releasing a new apple pie
flavor for the holidays. Because if we can't bring down
the praise of groceries, the new strategy is to just
make you not want them.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I like Kraft macaroni and cheese similar to a McDonald's burger,
which doesn't taste like a hamburger. Kraft macaroni and cheese
does not really taste like anybody else's macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's good.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, it's good. Good man, you put some ketchup on that.
Oh you don't put ketchup on your mac and cheese.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I do BBQ sauce mostly Katie, but made a face.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah I can. I've never heard of ketchup on me,
I've never heard of it. Wow, now that my kids
love it, My brothers loved it really so good, Okay,
I'll try it. Heats up so well, and it's so cheap,
It's like eighty cents for a box.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Doesn't that make you wonder whether you ought to be
putting it in your mouth?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So we've talked about this some over the years.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
A lot of companies that had a no questions asked
return policy had to change it because people were taking
advantage of it. What that means about society? And I'm
not exactly sure. I mean, how is How's Walmart, Costco
or other examples of smaller corporations able to get away
(14:09):
with the no questions ask return policy for so many years,
in some cases decades, and then something changed in the culture.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Maybe social media is at that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Whose idea was it to put every idiot in contact
with every other idiot?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So the idiot who says.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, you can do this and get away with it
goes online and the other idiots realize they I don't
know what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, they either realize they can or they feel reinforced
in their scumbaggery.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That lots of people do it, so I'm going to
do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I feel guilty every time I return something, even if
it's pretty justified. I just feel like I'm doing something bad.
And I got to like really convince him, you know
this thing just doesn't work or something right.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well, you know they're thinking, okay, this might be you know,
your typical thief who's made a big deal of returning stuff.
So they're looking at you through that lens because they
have to so up.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It came the idea several years ago we talked about
this was some sort of social credit score where the
companies get together like Best Buying, Costco.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And Walmart and everybody like that, and they keep track.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Of you and oh, you're one of those scumbags. You
do this three times a year and no, we're not
gonna let you return. It gets complicated though, on trying
to force it and then people are going to claim
that's not true and that sort of stuff. But like
open table, if you've ever used those for a reservation,
there are several of them out there, and I wish
I didn't have to be logged into all of them.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But I know different.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Restaurants use different places, but they're keeping track of it too,
and sharing information with places now and going to start.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Get the reservation on a busy evening if you've got
a lower score because a couple of times you've shown
up later canceled, whereas the person who always shows up
on time.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Gets the seat. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I would kind of like to have these things all combined.
Fine with me, I'm doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I hate to be coarse. You know.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
They call it social credit scores more like a hole
credit score.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, you're right, it should go to the other direction
because it's only really going to affect you if you're
an ale.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Right, so if you've got an eight oh six, that
means you really are not an a hole at all.
You got a nice high credit rating, as it were,
you're down there in the lower reaches. Maybe not, Maybe
I want to do business with you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I would think eventually every company is going to be
doing some form of this.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'll bet you're right. Uber and Lyft already are right
they Airbnb, Yeah, yeah, I like it on every level.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And uh, you know, either you're treated accordingly, you get
you get the hotel room because you're not somebody who's
left the trash hotel room before or whatever, you know, whatever,
as long as it's private enterprise, right, as long as
it's not the government like China.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Speaking of bad ideas communism for instance, socialism, how people
are being sold on some of the terrible ideas online,
including the current anti semitism on the right. How that
whole ecosystem works if you're not hip to it is
pretty interesting and it helps explain how people end up with
such terrible ideas.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Have you heard the latest knock on Nick Fuentes in
an attempt to bring him down?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know if it's true or not.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Armstrong Andy, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That was Dave Portnoy of.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Barstool Sports fame, great entrepreneur, personality, etc. Doing a pizza
review outside a restaurant for his channels and everything, because
he's a big pizza fiend like myself. And some guy
recognized either him or that Dave is Jewish and.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Said, f the Jews. Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Dave Ruben, speaking of influencers, had a comments or two.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
The point of that clip is that there's Dave Portanoy,
a guy who cares about sports and who really loves pizza,
and he's doing a pizza review. And some kid who
likely you would have to by every estimation, that kid
whoever did that, that young man is a point DA's fan,
probably a Tucker fan. So these things then do start
manifesting into real life.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then would that kid.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
I don't know burn down a Jewish owned bakery that
happened in Germany in the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Would that happen? Like? Where does this go?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
And Dave riffs on that question for a while, and
I say, well, said the idea that even like two
years ago somebody would have said f the Jews to
Dave Portnly is he reviews a pizza, right? So I
think Dave's right, This stuff leaches into real life. And
I had a terrific piece by a terrific woman who
(19:03):
writes for the Free Press, bot Ya Unger Sargon, who's
interestingly enough, authored two books, second Class, How the Elites
Betrayed America's working men and Women, and another called Bad News,
How woke media is undermining democracy. So her bona fides
on our side of you know, the ideological wars, unimpeachable,
(19:26):
really really smart lady, and she talks a lot about
the whole Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson thing, the crazy crazy ass,
Candice Owens, and also some of their stuff double crazy,
crazy crazy ass, And she writes about it at fair length.
I'm just going to touch on a little bit because
then she gets to another aspect of this that I
(19:46):
find interesting. But over the last decade, she writes, the
left hard everyone of the right, Joe Manchin is a fascist,
as a Nazi, as a racist.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It was always a canard.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yet now far right content creators have decided to try
to improve that the left was correct by widening the
Overton window to include the airing of Nick Fuentt as
views in an uncritical manner. And she mentioned in a
recent example, Fox News contributor or YouTuber Brett Cooper posted
a video condemning those seeking to keep actual Nazis out
(20:17):
of the Republican Party. She read out an ex post
from Senator Cruz, they don't kill you because you're a Nazi.
They call you a Nazi so they can kill you,
and then accused Cruise of hypocrisy because he accurately pointed
out that fwent as admires Hitler. Cooper wrote, so now
you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you don't
like a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Did you catch the logic?
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Because the left called good hearted conservatives Nazis, Therefore, no
one can be announced as a Nazi, including people who
literally praise Hitler. What follows is all Nazis must be welcome,
because the left called people who were at Nazis Nazis. Checkmate,
neo khans. It's utterly ridiculous. I thought that was well put.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Cooper says.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
The Republicans are using the same tactics that the left
has been using against us for years.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wrong.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Again, that's not the right turning in the left. It's
the sound of Cooper and other content creators doing their
best to prove the left.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Right that conservatives are secret bigots.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Somehow they've managed to convince themselves that disagreeing with someone
is itself cancel culture. But contrary to what those sanitizing
fuintes wants you to believe, the Brew hahas and splitting
the right, it's splitting the political and cultural right from
the content creators who make their money off global online audiences.
(21:34):
And the title of the piece is that the real
split on the right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What a hell heck.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
There it is influencers versus conservatives. And here's where it
gets even more interesting. Takes a turn that I found intriguing.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
With a lot of.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Conservatives using finger quotes because it's kind of a squishy
term in this case, with a lot of conservatives not
really realizing this as they take in their social media
fees every day.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, these creators have found that their online audience is
crave anti Israel content, and as a result, they've tried
to frame the dust up as being about Israel and
free speech. This is obviously nonsense. It's not a violation
of free speech to condemn someone for nodding along as
a white nationalist. Sully's everything Trump is built. It's not
cancel culture to say, actually, Nazis are bad, uh blah
(22:26):
blah blah. So and she goes into some more detail
about it that I think we've covered.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
If Carlson D.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Fuente is on a show to do a thorough critique
of his anti semitism and racism, as he did of
Ted Cruz's Christian Zionism, there might have been some backlash,
but not for me. It was the unchallenged airing of
Bile in their frequentaries of agreement. That's smacked of sanitization.
Can you even imagine a person who advocates puberty blockers
for children getting such a pass from a conservative influencer.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
When fun because I watched the video with the Nick
Fuentes own with Tucker Carlson when he said, uh, Nick
Fentes mentions a date and says, you know, I know
that date Stalin's birthday. I love Stalin and Tucker says
you love Stalin and makes a face like what the f?
And we'll get to that later, which they don't. I mean,
who wouldn't interviewing somebody stop whatever you were talking about
(23:23):
at that moment and say, let's do a dive into
this hole you love Stalin thing?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I mean, who doesn't stick with that subject as soon
as somebody says to you, I love Stalin, I have
his birthday memorized. Okay, what and why?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But Tucker just was like clearly shocked by that, as
any normal person would be.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Right, But we'll get to the don't circle back to
that and circle back to it.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, no, no, everything stops and you talk about that
unless you have a different purpose anyway, one more bit
of what she writes. What those defending fontes are saying
is free speech means Nazis get to be part of
our movement. And we've gotten a couple of emails from
like young folks on the right who've said, no, that's
(24:09):
a lie, He's.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Not a Nazi.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Look, you can't praise Hitler, deny the Holocaust and blame
the Jews for everything and say I'm a Nazi, or
people are gonna call you a Nazi. Okay, you don't
want those people to be with you anyway. It sounds
crazy when you lay it out like that, but it's
actually driven by a very real financial incentive. Many content
(24:34):
creators make their money on social media.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they
already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you, Oh,
it finds you an audience and then rewards you for
immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The
flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them.
Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting
(25:00):
your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers
are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their
entire livelihood depends on it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even
seek out content like that, but I know I'm being
fed stuff that Zuckerberg or you know, whoever's in charge
at Google or whatever, that they think I want, and
so I.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Miss out on other stuff. I don't want to miss
out on other stuff. I want to see the other stuff.
Some of it I don't agree with. Some of it
I might, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed
me as a very specific sort of person right and
has only.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Given me that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And I wish, I hope there's a platform that in
the future lets you flip off your algorithm when you
want to, like what else is going on in the world,
turn off my algorithm and just give me what's popular
for everyone, or maybe you could choose other people's algorithms.
Show me the algorithm of somebody who is a Kamala.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Harris voter or whatever, so I get different news.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Because it really worries me that I'm that I'm being
funneled stuff and I have no control over.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It, right, yeah, exactly. And we've talked in a lighthearted
way about this too. You know, when, for instance, my
alma mater, the University of Illinois, is playing good football,
I'll click on college football stories more. Then all of
a sudden, my algorithms act like I'm Dabbo Sweeney himself,
you know, some college football coach, and I'll just get
flooded with it. It's like, leave me alone anyway. But
(26:25):
ideologically is a much more significant example. So final part
of this. So oh, and for what it's worth, and
I don't want to sound like I we are galloping
along on a white horse in shining armor, combination of
age and you know, a fair level of financial comfort.
(26:48):
I couldn't give a crap what people agree with or
don't agree with. I am going to speak the truth
as I see it, period, and you either appreciate that
even if if you disagree, and my goodness, you're welcome
to disagree. We can still be friends. I will not
do what's being described here. I find it despicable. My
(27:10):
sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed of me if
I did it, and that is a far higher standard
to me than what's in my bank account anyway. So
she describes how their entire livelihood depends on pleasing their audience,
that is, getting fed the algorithm of what they already think,
what they already believe. People point to the millions of
views popular podcasters get is proof of their influence and relevance.
(27:31):
But content creators are deeply divorced from where the vast
majority of Republicans and conservatives are on many issues. And
this is why they're not reading the room. They're reading
the comments section under their videos, which are filled with
people who do not reflect the views of normal Americans.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You're right, it's a two way straight. It's bad for me.
What I was just saying that I don't want to
be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm, and this
is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back
to them is not good for them.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right, and let's see.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the heir
at his foundation, getting way off track and forgetting partly
that these platforms have global reach. So they look at
a YouTube video that has five million views and suddenly
think it means five million young American men agree with it,
and we must not anger the young men by suggesting
Hitler is bad.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And she makes a great point.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
This would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built
the most multi racial, working class coalition the Republican parties
had in generations, and many people are proud of it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
He's also Donald Trump the best friend Israel's ever had
for any US president.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yes, absolutely, and as a Jewish son in law and
his daughter converted right anyway. And she finally, she writes
up been heart to see how many Christians have stood
up and vocally denounced Fantes over the past week. That's
the way to keep power, not with Nazis or those
who would really rather.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You didn't condemn them.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Luckily, despite the best efforts of some podcasters, the GOP
seems to understand that now.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I certainly do.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Even as awful a human being as I think Nick
Flint is spreading awful things, I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Want to be unfair to him.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So I'm gonna say I don't have any idea if
this next thing I'm about to say is true or
not this stuff I saw on Twitter, but there seems
to be an attempt to bring him down. I mean,
he's got powerful enemies with some videos I saw of
him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have sex with
(29:30):
underage other dudes and.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Saying some things that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
At least it looked like the way they were portrayed
in these videos as him being pretty interested in younger guys.
Like I said, I don't have any idea if these
are AI creations or if they're true or not. Even
as bad as I think Nick Flints is, I don't
want to claim this if I don't know if it's true,
But there is that attempt out there to make him
(29:55):
that sort of person. Now, some of the statements he's
made about his sexuality and and everything like.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That, it's pretty weird.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, he's in a weird he's in a weird place sexually.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He's an edge lord too.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
He's he's constantly saying things that are meant to offend
and shock.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So thing he thinks all women are.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh yeah that he said the only really straight heterosexual
position is to be an asexual inceell. He refers to
himself as a Nazi twink, submissive gay man.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
What's interesting about the people trying to run him down
is there's a great piece in The Free Beacon about
how the New York Times we yes, okay, attractive, Wow,
Swipe left or right or whichever one it is. Well,
what's interesting is the Free Beacon as a terrific piece
about how the New York Times and others are trying
to elevate this guy because then they can they go
(30:53):
with the the the narrative that corese here's here's your conservative.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
So that's the problem, Like pictures that are touched up
to make him look extra handsome and cool in the
New York Times.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is there, My god, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So you're trying to elevate a Nazi.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
And give him more of a platform, make him more money,
make him more popular because you think ultimately that will
hurt the other side.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Right, It's like if a guy like me gave five
thousand dollars to Donnie's campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Man, you talk about that idea.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Not seeing the force for the trees or whatever saying
fits this, But wow, cutting off your nose despite your face.
I know there's some saying that fits this situation, but
I'm not sure what it is. You're cutting off the
baby to despite the bath walk exactly, cutting the loaf
in half, I don't know what we'll finished strong next time.
I am completely confused as to what's going on with
(31:52):
the Epstein story, this political battle. So earlier, we had
this Democratic Representative Robert Garcia. We played little bit of
him saying more Epstein files will be released, but he
received twenty three thousand documents a few days ago around Epstein.
That's a Democrat using that as a bit of a threat,
(32:15):
kind of a vague threat. Now the Republicans are out
with their vague threat that says, this is the headline
from the New York Times, Republicans on the Oversight Committee
have released twenty thousand, twenty three thousand pages of documents.
Take that that's the same number. It's the same documents, right,
(32:37):
It's gotta be okay. I mean they both.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Claim twenty three thousand.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
But so you havet this Democratic congressman saying I've received
twenty three thousand documents from the Epstein files, will be
releasing them over the next couple of days. And then
they had a couple of quotes in there that were
like meaningless to us. Now the Republicans are saying, we
have just in the Oversight Committee released twenty three thousand
documents around the Epstein files, and we are going to
show the Democrat that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Who released these and who is it hurting.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
The Republicans are saying, no, you're not going to trip
them out here. They are read them if you want.
There's nothing to hide here. You think that's what happened, Yeah, yeah,
it's The Democrats are trying to make it sound like
this is a brand new discovery. It's full of great
evidence and we're going to bring it to you bit
by bit. And the Republicans are like, read it if
you want.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Or they cleverly forced the Republicans' hands, and now the
Republicans had to release all this stuff that some people
have been asking to release anyway, including lots of Republicans,
like Republicans I know who are very upset that these
documents hadn't been released. I would get the nothing Burger
with fries, because nothing burger is not going to be
very filly.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Maybe get nothing shake.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, my god, love.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Then the government is shut down for forty two days.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
When they finally go back to work, it's the Epstein thing,
that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's got a final thought from everybody on the crew.
I'm going to jump to the front of the line,
as is my right as host. I have given up
on the United States of America. I literally have a
window open looking at real estate in Uruguay.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Sure that's where you want to live in, not Paraguay.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
It's beautiful, Yes, I've figured out it is indeed Uruguay.
Only problem is every kitchen I've seen looks like it's
taken straight out of that seventies show. Apparently there's a
shortage of updating materials in Uruguay. Mike Langelow, are technical director,
has final thought.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
Michael, yeah, I don't know what I looked up, but
now my algorithm on my Facebook I either it's either
a toaster or food processors. That's all I get now,
nothing but adds for food processors or toasters.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
No clue how's that happened?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well, you don't want to eat raw bread like a
fool toasted up Katie Green Are a Steam Newswoman.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just need to take a chill pill for the
rest of the day because since we did that gold
Gem segment, I have been pissed.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, the left doesn't care about actual women.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Uh Jack.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
A final thought for us, Yeah, the algorithm thing that
needs to get fixed. I have a similar problem. If
I opened up YouTube right now, it would be nothing
but espresso machines and John Mary Tar lessons, and that's it.
Like those are the only two things I could ever
possibly have any interest in.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Sip the Java and play the licks. Sip the Java,
play the licks.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Armstrong and Getty raving up another grueling four hour workday.
I'm just gonna say this, Armstronggeeddy dot com, the Armstrong
and Getty store. The new kftc aprons made everybody laugh
out loud.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm getting one myself. Oh cool, we'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
God bless America.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm strong and get you. We don't want to.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
Talk about saying, we say no, is there anything here.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That we don't already know?
Speaker 8 (36:06):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
We could talk about the weather, the oh and Christmas
really starts, but we don't want to talk about the
sick Burbo who died behind bars.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No, we don't want to talk about Armstrong and Getty
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