November 24, 2025 • 36 mins
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- Proud to be American
- Universal 25
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Caddy.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Armstrong and Jay and He Armstrong and Caddy Strong not live,
We're not here.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It's the Armstrong and Getty replick.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
But what we have for you is delicious a collection
of some of our best stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now enjoy the Armstrong and Eddy replay. I haven't suggested
that Donald Trump is Hitler. I wouldn't. I don't think
any Democrat has.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
I actually, and I think it's a it's a smear
that they project back on to critics.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Okay, that's the governor of Illinois saying he's never compared
Trump to Hitler, and Nicole Wallace, the host saying I
don't think any Democrat ever has. Now Here is a
montage and this is just a short portion of Democrats
comparing Trump Taylor.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
We have a.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Simil Hitler in the White House right now.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But do want to be Hitler for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Comparing the tactics of Donald Trump to Mussolini and Hitler
as a very legitimate thing.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
He is paving the way to become a Vlatin im
putin or to become an Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Well, Hitler was duly elected, right right, And so somebody
with those tendencies, so dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, Okay,
we're gonna shut this down, We're gonna throw these people
in jailor and they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is
telling us what he intends.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
To Yes, right, So it's not even low level Democrats.
In that montage, you got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi
among others, telling Trump Hitler right after Nicole Wallace and
the governor of Illinois say I've never call him Hitler.
I don't think any Democrat ever has. Okay, whatever, these
are the times we live in.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
There are a number of people, including a lot of
progressives of course, who will just lie overtly, knowing most
people don't have the nerve to call them on it.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Anyway, I thought that might lead into this, and maybe
it's why we're going the direction we're going.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I have no idea. I'm not a fan of Hitler.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The question from Gallup is it's about pride and being
an American, and it goes back to the turn of
the century two thousand. So since two thousand, they've been
asking this question, how proud are you to be an American?
Extremely proud, very proud, moderately proud, only a little proud,
or not proud at all?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Which would you choose?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Joe Getty as of this day in twenty twenty five, Oh,
the top one. Yeah, me too. Extremely proud, Yeah, and
eve of liberty across the globe. Yeah, extremely and proud
with all our flaws. Of course, this graph you would
not have been an outlier at all at the turn
of the century, no matter your political stripe. This graph
only includes people who are very or extremely doesn't even
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include moderately proud, just very or extremely. In the year
two thousand, start of this century, for Republicans it was
ninety percent. For independence it was eighty five percent. For
Democrats it was eighty seven percent. Wow, So it was
nine out of ten of Americans, no matter your political stripe,
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who were extremely or very proud of being an American.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Let that sink in for a second. That's amazing to
where we are now. For Republicans just served two terms.
Bush was in the middle of term number one, and
it was pre nine to eleven. Okay, so it was
just the attitude, it was the culture. Well, well I'll
have to get into the wise. But Republicans have held
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steady more or less during that entire time, at around
ninety percent. I think that's interesting because I mean that
includes the Obama years. It's not just a I'm up
with whoever's president now thing. It stated ninety percent during
a time when you weren't happy with the president. You're
whether you're proud of being an American or not, should
not change with the presidency. But Democrats, it has gone
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mostly down. It's like the stock market. There's little jiggles,
but the overall trend has been down over this quarter
of a century.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And now Jiggles is my drag name. By the way,
you read my books chance on the weekend. High school libraries,
you're drag elementary school libraries, Yeah, Drag time Story Hour, Yeah,
little jiggles.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, you're so flamboyant.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hi kids. Let me indoctrinate you. Let's get back to
this very important question. This is important, This should be
studied by a panel of experts and figure out what's
going the hell's going on here. So for the Republicans
people as self identified Republicans, it's held steady at ninety percent.
Independence are now at half. So it was ninety percent,
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it's now half fifty three percent. Why independents have dropped
the fifty three percent is an interesting question. And then
for self identified Democrats, it's now down to barely above
a third. Went from nine out of ten the start
of the two thousands to barely above a third. Now Russia, China,
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and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulates you.
You haven't won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain
for driving the country apart for killing the United States
from within. It's one of the most amazing propaganda victories
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Why have Republicans held steady regardless of the administration while
Democrats have trended downward brief blip up a little bit
when Biden took office from Trump, but then went down
very quickly, and then continue to go down.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think Democrats are obsessed with politics in a way
that a lot of conservatives are aren't. For one thing,
so this could be some Trump backlash. I also have
to observe that the people that are self identified Democrats
are very, very different twenty five years on than they
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were in two thousand.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, it looks to me party's way to the left
looks to me like when Trump was elected. And it
did go down fairly steeply after Trump was elected, But
at the time Trump was elected it was down into
the sixties. How did you go from ninety percent into
the sixties during two terms of Bush and two terms
of Obama?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, well, I tell you my theory, and I'm pretty
sure I'm right. Here's a couple of headlines to illustrate
the point. Minneapolis public schools have prohibited white and Asian
students from taking classes on black culture and black queens
and all sorts of woke stuff, the obsession with race,
the whole critical theory crowd.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And then you have this one. This is also Minneapolis
public schools.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
They have declared capitalism a pillar of white supremacy in
a required Ethnic studies class. Every kid has to take
this class and they are taught that capitalism are market
economy is a tool of white supremacy.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
With the with the caveat we always throw in. Its
easier said than done. How do you keep your kid
in that freaking school? I know to learn?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Now? If you not? Only do I don't agree with
your teaching style A f you. Yeah, yeah, I hate you.
That's hate. I hate you. You're a bad person.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's what I wanted to say to my son's history
teacher since I pulled my son out of that public
school class.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're a bad person.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You're actually damaging the country, you a whole well, a
lot of these people are actively damaging the country on purpose.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They're they're useful idiots who think they're doing what's morally right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are just idiots. These people are awful.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
But anyway, I think people who tend to be of
a conservative event have heard all of the critical race theory,
the DEI stuff, the trans radical stuff, and said, know,
what you're saying is not true. Whereas people of a
progressive point of view, for reasons we've discussed, when they're
you know, they're just born this way or whatever, or
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sometimes they just want to be approved of, so they
will parrot whatever is being told to them is right,
just so that they get.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The approval of people around them.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
But people with a progressive Brent Bent heard all this
crap and said, oh my god, oh my god, this
is a terrible country.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The propaganda worked on them.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, I guess I was going to be intellectually honest.
It's because they think they're helping a bad country by
teaching the things or thinking they you know, pointing to
the graph right here.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
They don't want think they're trying to destroy something that
they believe to be evil.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, if you think it's a bad country, you should
be trying to change it. I guess I just I
think it's really illustrates something that the Republican numbers held
steady through all the various things that have happened over
the last twenty five years. And a lot of things
have happened. It just kind of a flat line basically
nine of very or extremely proud. That's something that this is,
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this is a problem.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, I'm digging more into the second Minneapolis story, and
it's so interesting. It's like studying the propaganda tactics of
the Soviet Union or Russia or whatever, but they're really
hammering ethnic studies on the kids. Ethnic studies is an
anti racist tool, they say, identify these structural inequalities that
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are part of K through twelve. They're going to decolonize education,
and there's all sorts of there. They read ibramex Kenny
and the other jokers and liars of Neomarxism. But it's
a classic example of everything that the neo Marxists hate
they call racist or based on white supremacy, and all
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the poor sheep, weak minded people who all they know
is I don't want to be a racist. I know
being racist is bad. These people are telling me what's
racist and what's not. I will believe them and I
will obey them. They are calling everything, including the free market,
white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's because they're Marxists.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
They don't want the free market call something racist until
you control it. It's so obvious what's happening here, and
they brand it all with anti racism, and they teach
the poor little kids, we're gonna tell you about decolonizing
this and anti racism, that it's all bent on tearing
down the Western systems.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, and the reason my kid is no longer in
that American history class. It seemed to be, at least
in the first two months, all bent on convincing you
the country was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's the only thing they'd learned so far, right, which
is wild.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
And I don't want to be the kind of guy
that buys into this notion that you can only have
friends who are in your side politically, or i'm single,
can only date, you know, based on politics. I don't
want to live in that world. But based on this graph,
I might not have any choice. Right, how could I
be in a relationship with somebody who thinks this is
a bad country, which apparently is two thirds of Democrats.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean, that's a tough situation. I'd be a heck
of a thing to overlook in your lives.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it would come up a lot,
especially because everybody's so obsessed with politics lately.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's wild.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, it is. It's sick. It's I mean, and I
don't know. I could go on and on about this stuff.
But the subversion of the United States has been a
project of those who would either want to dominate us
or just hate us for ideological reasons for a very
very long time. And one of the ways you do
it is to inject Marxism into everything in sheep clothing
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and they've been incredibly successful at that. The other thing
is you constantly pit people against each other, which is
why you know so much of online hatred and sniping
back and forth as bots or foreign agents and that
sort of stuff. But then once you get that going,
it sustains. It's like when you get the whirlpool going
in your above ground pool or whatever. Once you get
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it started, it keeps going. You don't have to work
at it anymore. And that's what you know. The people
who hate the United States have gotten going through our
educational systems, which should be torn down to the foundation
and rebuilt or just abandoned by parents with conscience.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I can't see looking at this graph, I can't see
any reason to think that those down numbers from Independence
and Democrats aren't going to trend the direction, keep going
the direction they're going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean, how low will it get?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, we've let wolves into the henhouse of education. I
feel so for parents who know all of this but
they can't afford or don't have time to get their
kid in an alternate educational environment. I understand how tough
that was, but it's beyond a problem. It's horrifying what
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kids are being taught in government school.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gretty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Have we ever talked about Universe twenty five before? I
feel like we probably have, But we've been doing this
radio show for thirty years, so it could have been
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Project twenty twenty five right from Heritage.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Universe twenty five. It's a famous mouse experiment from back
in the day.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh right, yeah, go aheads.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Between nineteen sixty eight and nineteen seventy two, he studied
these mice. He created a mouse utopia experiment to see
what would happen. I think you'll see parallels to today
with these mice. The basic setup is the utopia. Utopia
included an enclosure with unlimited food, water, nesting materials, and
(14:59):
no preduce. For these mice, he started with four breeding
pairs and then let the population develop naturally again food
whether food, water, protection, all your basic needs met and
no predators. The population initially grifi WiFi, fast streaming, exactly
cool Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The population initially grew exponentially, but at around day five sixty,
the growth began to slow dramatically.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They stopped having little mice babies at a certain point.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Despite having physical space and resources, the mice developed behavioral pathologies.
Dominant males became extremely aggressive. Subordinate males withdrew completely. Some mice,
mostly males, completely disengaged from social life, only eating, drinking,
and grooming themselves obsessively. Female mice abandoned their young and
infant mortality skyrocketed. Wow, young mice never learned social and
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mating behaviors from their parents, if you will, and by
Sicky six hundred, no new mice were being born in
the population eventually went extinct. Now, as it says here
in the summary, people are not mice and mice are
not people.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Their point, Come on now, yeh.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I have known a handful of people who were completely
taken care of trust fund kids, that sort of person,
and the vast majority of those stories do not have
joyful endings or descriptions.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
No, but this is what I've been saying about. We
stopped having babies. This is what I've been thinking of
first world countries. We don't have any threats, We were
not going to be invaded by another country, and we
have our basic need needs met. Even if you got
people marching in the street because their house is not
as big as their neighbor's house or whatever it is.
Our basic needs are being met, and we're stopping getting together.
We're starting to act weird.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
True.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, well, and it's absolutely known scientifically that struggle raises
your testosterone and victory raises it even more. We're meant
to strive and fight, whether the literal battles or metaphorical battles,
and we're not meant to lay around to be comfortable
as beings interesting.
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Speaker 3 (17:26):
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Speaker 2 (17:58):
What gosh.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That was Dave Portnoy of.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Barstool Sports Fame, great entrepreneur, personality, etc. Doing a pizza
review outside a restaurant for his channels and everything because
he's a big pizza fiend like myself, and some guy
recognized either him or that Dave is Jewish and said,
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f the Jews.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Dave Ruben, speaking of influencers, had a comments or two.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
The point of that clip is that there's Dave Portnoy,
a guy who cares about sports and who really loves pizza,
and he's doing a pizza review and some kid who
likely you would have to by every estimation, that kid
whoever did that, that young man is a point Day's fan,
probably a Tucker fan. So these things then do start
manifesting into real life. And then would that kid, I
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don't know, burned out a Jewish owned bakery that happened
in Germany in the nineteen thirties, would that happen?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Like where does this go?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And Dave Riff's on that question for a while, and
I say, well, said the idea that even like two
years ago somebody would have said f the Jews to
Dave portantly is he reviews a pizza, right, So I
think Dave's right. This stuff leaches into real life. And
read a terrific piece by a terrific woman who writes
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for the Free Press, bought ya Unger Sargon, who's interestingly enough,
authored two books, second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's
working men and Women, and another called Bad News, How
woke media is undermining democracy. So her bona fides on
our side of you know, the ideological wars, unimpeachable, really
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really smart lady, and she talks a lot about the
whole Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson's thing, the crazy crazy ass
Candas owns, and also some of their stuff crazy double crazy,
crazy crazy ass. And she writes about it at fair length.
I'm just going to touch on a little bit because
then she gets to another aspect of this that I
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find interesting. But over the last decade, she writes the
left hard everyone to the right at Joe Manchin is
a fascist, as a Nazi, as a racist.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It was always a canard.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yet now far right content creators have decided to try
to prove that the left was correct by widening the
Overton window to include the airing of Nick fuents views
in an uncritical manner, and she mentioned in a recent example,
Fox News contributor or YouTuber Brett Cooper posted a video
condemning those seeking to keep the actual Nazis out of
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the Republican Party. She read out an ex post from
Senator Cruz. They don't kill you because you're a Nazi.
They call you a Nazi so they can kill you,
and then accused Cruise of hypocrisy because he accurately pointed
out that foynt as admires Hitler. Cooper wrote, So, now
you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Don't like a Nazi. Did you catch the logic?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Because the left called good hearted conservatives Nazis, Therefore no
one can be denounced as a Nazi, including people who
literally praise Hitler. What follows is all Nazis must be welcome.
Because the left called people who are at Nazis Nazis,
checkmate neo cons It's utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I thought that was well put h Cooper says.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
The Republicans are using the same tactics that the left
has been using against us for years.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Again, that's not the right turning in the left. It's
the sound of Cooper and other content creators doing their
best to prove the left.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right that conservatives are secret bigots.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Somehow they've managed to convince themselves that disagreeing with someone
is itself cancel culture. But contrary to what those sanitizing
fointes wants you to believe, the bru ha haas and
splitting the right, it's splitting the political and cultural right
from the content creators who make their money off Globe
Lobo online audiences. And the title of the piece is
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that the real split on the right.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
What as hell? Heck there?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It is influencers versus conservatives. And here's where it gets
even more interesting. Takes a turn that I found intriguing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
With a lot of.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Conservatives using finger quotes because it's kind of a squishy
term in this case, with a lot of conservatives not
really realizing this as they take in their social media
feed every day.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, these creators have found that their online audience is
crave anti Israel content, and as a result, they've tried
to frame the dust up as being about Israel and
free speech. This is obviously nonsense. It's not a violation
of free speech to condemn someone for nodding along as
a white nationalist. Sully's everything Trump is built. It's not
cancel culture to say, actually, Nazis are bad, uh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
So and she goes into some more detail about it
that I think I think we've covered. If Carlson ed
Fuente is on a show to do a thorough critique
of his anti semitism and racism, as he did of
Ted Cruz's christian Zionism. There might have been some backlash,
but not for me. It was the unchallenged airing of
bile in their frequentaries of agreement.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's smacked of sanitization.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Can you even imagine a person who advocates puberty blockers
for children getting such a pass from a conservative influencer.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
No, of course, not when fun because I watched the
video with the Nick Fuentees on with Tucker Carlson when
he said Nick Fuentes mentions a date and says, you know,
I know that date Stalin's birthday. I love Stalin and
Tucker says, you love Stalin and makes a face like
what the F Now, we'll get to that later, which
they don't. I mean, who wouldn't interviewing somebody stop whatever
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you were talking about at that moment and say, h,
let's do a dive into this hole.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You love Stalin thing right?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I mean, who doesn't stick with that subject as soon
as someone says to you, I love Stalin, I have
his birthday memorized. Okay, what and why?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
But Tucker just was like clearly shocked by that, as
any normal person would be.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Right, But we'll get that don't circle back to that
and circle back to it. No, no, no, everything stops
and you talk about that unless you have a different
purpose anyway. One more bit of what she writes, what
those defending fontes are really saying is free speech means
Nazis get to be part of our movement. And we've
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gotten a couple of emails from like young folks on
the right who've said, no, that's a lie, He's.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Not a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Look, you can't praise Hitler, deny the Holocaust and blame
the Jews for everything and say I'm a Nazi or
people are gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Call you a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay, you don't want those people to be with you anyway.
It sounds crazy when you lay it out like that,
but it's actually driven by a very real financial incentive.
Many content creators make their money on social media.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they
already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you. Oh,
it finds you an audience and then rewards you for
immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The
flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them.
Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting
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your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers
are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their
entire livelihood depends on it.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even
seek out content like that, But I know I'm being
fed stuff that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Zuckerberg or you know.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Whoever's in charge at Google or whatever, that they think
I want, and so I miss out on other stuff.
I don't want to miss out on other stuff. I
want to see the other stuff. Some of it I
don't agree with, but I might.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed
me as a very specific sort of person right and
has only given me that stuff. And I wish, I
hope there's a platform that in the future lets you
flip off your algorithm when you want to, like what
else is going on in the world, Turn off my
algorithm and just give me what's popular for everyone, or
maybe you could choose other people's algorithms. Show me the
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algorithm of somebody who is on Kamala Harris voter or whatever.
So I get different news because it really worries me
that that I'm being funneled stuff and I have no
control over it.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And we've talked in a lighthearted way about this too.
You know, when, for instance, my alma mater, the University
of Illinois, is playing good football, I'll click on college
football stories more. Then all of a sudden, my algorithms
act like I'm Dabo Sweeney himself, you know, some college
football coach, and I'll just get flooded with it. It's like,
leave me alone anyway. But ideologically is a much more
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significant example. So final part of this. So oh, and
for what it's worth, and I don't want to sound
like I we are galloping along on a white horse
in shining armor, combination of age and you know, a
fair level of financial comfort. I couldn't give a crap
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what people agree with or don't agree with. I am
going to speak the truth as I see it, period,
And you either appreciate that even if you disagree, and
my goodness, you're welcome to disagree. We can still be friends.
I will not do what's being described here. I find
it despicable. My sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed
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of me if I did it, and that is a
far higher standard to me than what's in my bank
account anyway. So she describes how their entire livelihood depends
on pleasing their audience, that is, getting fed the algorithm
of what they already think, what they already believe. People
point to the millions of views popular podcasters get as
proof of their influence and relevance, but content creators are
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deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and
conservatives are on many issues. And this is why they're
not reading the room. They're reading the comments section under
their videos, which are filled with people who do not
reflect the views of normal Americans.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
You're right, it's a two way straight. It's bad for me.
What I was just saying that I don't want to
be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm, and this
is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back
to them is not good for them, right.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And let's see.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the here
at his foundation, getting way off track and forgetting partly
that these platforms have global reach, so they look at
a YouTube video that has five million views and suddenly
think it means five million young American men agree with it,
and we must not anger the young men by suggesting
Hitler is bad. As she makes a great point, this
(28:51):
would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built the
most multi racial, working class coalition the Republican parties had
in generations, and many people are proud of it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
He's also Donald Trump the best friend Israel's ever had
for any US president.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yes, absolutely, and as a Jewish son in law and
his daughter converted right anyway, And she finally, she writes,
I've been hard to see how many Christians have stood
up and vocally denounced Fantes over the past week.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That's the way to keep.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Power, not with Nazis or those who would really rather
you didn't condemn them. Luckily, despite the best efforts of
some podcasters, the GOP seems to understand that now.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I certainly do.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Even as awful a human being as I think, Nick
Fuentes is spreading awful things, I don't want to be
unfair to him. So I'm gonna say I don't have
any idea if this next thing I'm about to say
is true or not this stuff I saw on Twitter,
but there seems to be an attempt to bring him down.
I mean, he's got powerful enemies with some videos I
(29:51):
saw of him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have
sex with underage other dudes, and and saying some things
that at least it looked like the way they were
portrayed in these videos as him being pretty interested in
younger guys. Like I said, I don't have any idea
(30:13):
if these are AI creations or if they're true or not.
Even as bad as I think Nick Fuentes is, I
don't want to claim this if I don't know if
it's true, But there is that attempt out there to
make him that sort of person. Now, some of the
statements he's made about his sexuality and sex and everything
like that, it's pretty weird. Yeah, he's in a weird
He's in a weird place sexually.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
He's an edge lord too. He's constantly saying things that
are meant to offend and shock.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So so what's his sex thing? He thinks all women are.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah that he said the only really straight heterosexual position
is to be an asexual. In cell he refers to
himself as a Nazi, twink, submissive gay man. What's interesting
about the people trying to run him down. There's a
great piece in The Free Beacon about how the New
York Times we mean, yes, okay, attractive, Wow, swipe left
(31:09):
or right or whichever one it is. Well, what's interesting
is the Free Beacon as a terrific piece about how
the New York Times and others are trying to elevate
this guy because then they can They are go with
the narrative, the course, here's here's your conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Wow. So that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Like pictures that are touched up to make him look
extra handsome and cool in.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
The New York Times.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Is there, My god, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So you're trying to elevate a Nazi.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
And give him more of a platform, make him more money,
make him more popular, because you think ultimately that will
hurt the other side.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's like if a guy like me gave five thousand
dollars to Donnie's campaign.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Man, you talk about that idea.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
The force for the trees or whatever saying fits this,
but wow, cutting off your nose despite your face. I
know there's some saying that fits this situation. But I'm
not sure what it is you're cutting off the baby
to despite the bath.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Walk exactly, the cutting the loaf in half, I don't know.
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
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the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation
into Tesla's full self driving system. Officials now say they've
received more than fifty reports of traffic safety violations and
reports of several injuries.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I have FSD in my newest Tesla, but the technology
has changed so much over the last five years that
I've been four years that I've been driving Tesla's some
of the older cars, I mean, are they all the
newer models.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I mean, it's all so complicated.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I don't know if we'll ever reach full self driving
that insurance companies and states allow.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I really don't know if that'll ever happen. Hmmm. I
would guess yes, I mean, but I have no idea when.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
What the existence of WAIMO you'd think is going to happen.
But that's a completely different model or way of doing it.
You can do it for an individual city where you
map every single sidewalk, alley, everything into the computer system
of that car. Can you do that for the whole
country to allow your or do you buy or do
you start buying cars that this car is just programmed
(33:31):
to drive in within fifty miles or where you live.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Maybe that's the way it'll work.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, I'm out of my depth there, Donnie. I was
reading about self piloting planes is almost certainly the future
in a lot of realms. But they point out that
the pilot reassures everybody when there's unexpected turribulence or you know,
just to if you're walking on the plane, you turn
left and there's nobody in the cockpit, you glance to
your left. That would freak people out. It would take
(33:58):
a long time to get consumer accepts, they were pointing out.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Oh, I would say, the self driving on my newest
vehicle is fantastic. It has never made a mistake as
far as I know, even close to it. It's better than
I am. Really, it can see things I can't see.
This is a very interesting story that we want to
touch on.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
A frightening new prank taking over social media across TikTok.
People generating ai images of a stranger in their house
and then sending the photos to their loved ones. The
pranks as texting things like he says he knows you
and I told him he can take a nap, sending
their families into a panic, at times ending with police
knocking on their door.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Oh, I was just trying to mess with my mom,
and she took it seriously.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
No calls are ranked and priority, and something like this
would be a high priority.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Police departments across the country saying they're getting nine to
one one calls from parents thinking their child is actually
in danger. Police issuing a warning to users that pulling
pranks like.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
These that I'm just messing with you. It's ai.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Criminal charges you stupid, see unplug the Internet.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
God, you are a freaking moron. I'm disappointed you're my child.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I better take a look at the way I invest
because I'm gonna be taking care of you for the
rest of my life, because you're too freaking stupid to exist,
I mean strong, Maybe, how can you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Possibly think I know what I'll do.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
I'll have my parents think a stranger has broken into
the house and I can't get him to leave.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That'll be funny.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
God, you are an awful human being, or your brain
is broken.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Utterly lacking in judgment. Oh my god, yeah, that is
I terrific. How can a person be that blind?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I don't know, I don't know. It's got to be small,
is it.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
You know, kids are so easily led that they see
it online.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
They're told it's funny.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
They have no independent judgment because they're sheep issue, and
and so they go ahead and do it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gretty The Armstrong and Getty Joe
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now enjoy the Armstrong and Eddy replay. I haven't suggested
that Donald Trump is Hitler. I wouldn't. I don't think
any Democrat has.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
I actually, and I think it's a it's a smear
that they project back on to critics.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Okay, that's the governor of Illinois saying he's never compared
Trump to Hitler, and Nicole Wallace, the host saying I
don't think any Democrat ever has. Now Here is a
montage and this is just a short portion of Democrats
comparing Trump Taylor.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
We have a.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Simil Hitler in the White House right now.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But do want to be Hitler for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Comparing the tactics of Donald Trump to Mussolini and Hitler
as a very legitimate thing.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
He is paving the way to become a Vlatin im
putin or to become an Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Well, Hitler was duly elected, right right, And so somebody
with those tendencies, so dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, Okay,
we're gonna shut this down, We're gonna throw these people
in jailor and they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is
telling us what he intends.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
To Yes, right, So it's not even low level Democrats.
In that montage, you got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi
among others, telling Trump Hitler right after Nicole Wallace and
the governor of Illinois say I've never call him Hitler.
I don't think any Democrat ever has. Okay, whatever, these
are the times we live in.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
There are a number of people, including a lot of
progressives of course, who will just lie overtly, knowing most
people don't have the nerve to call them on it.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Anyway, I thought that might lead into this, and maybe
it's why we're going the direction we're going.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I have no idea. I'm not a fan of Hitler.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The question from Gallup is it's about pride and being
an American, and it goes back to the turn of
the century two thousand. So since two thousand, they've been
asking this question, how proud are you to be an American?
Extremely proud, very proud, moderately proud, only a little proud,
or not proud at all?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Which would you choose?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Joe Getty as of this day in twenty twenty five, Oh,
the top one. Yeah, me too. Extremely proud, Yeah, and
eve of liberty across the globe. Yeah, extremely and proud
with all our flaws. Of course, this graph you would
not have been an outlier at all at the turn
of the century, no matter your political stripe. This graph
only includes people who are very or extremely doesn't even
(03:38):
include moderately proud, just very or extremely. In the year
two thousand, start of this century, for Republicans it was
ninety percent. For independence it was eighty five percent. For
Democrats it was eighty seven percent. Wow, So it was
nine out of ten of Americans, no matter your political stripe,
(03:59):
who were extremely or very proud of being an American.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Let that sink in for a second. That's amazing to
where we are now. For Republicans just served two terms.
Bush was in the middle of term number one, and
it was pre nine to eleven. Okay, so it was
just the attitude, it was the culture. Well, well I'll
have to get into the wise. But Republicans have held
(04:29):
steady more or less during that entire time, at around
ninety percent. I think that's interesting because I mean that
includes the Obama years. It's not just a I'm up
with whoever's president now thing. It stated ninety percent during
a time when you weren't happy with the president. You're
whether you're proud of being an American or not, should
not change with the presidency. But Democrats, it has gone
(04:52):
mostly down. It's like the stock market. There's little jiggles,
but the overall trend has been down over this quarter
of a century.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And now Jiggles is my drag name. By the way,
you read my books chance on the weekend. High school libraries,
you're drag elementary school libraries, Yeah, Drag time Story Hour, Yeah,
little jiggles.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, you're so flamboyant.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hi kids. Let me indoctrinate you. Let's get back to
this very important question. This is important, This should be
studied by a panel of experts and figure out what's
going the hell's going on here. So for the Republicans
people as self identified Republicans, it's held steady at ninety percent.
Independence are now at half. So it was ninety percent,
(05:40):
it's now half fifty three percent. Why independents have dropped
the fifty three percent is an interesting question. And then
for self identified Democrats, it's now down to barely above
a third. Went from nine out of ten the start
of the two thousands to barely above a third. Now Russia, China,
(06:02):
and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulates you.
You haven't won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain
for driving the country apart for killing the United States
from within. It's one of the most amazing propaganda victories
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Why have Republicans held steady regardless of the administration while
Democrats have trended downward brief blip up a little bit
when Biden took office from Trump, but then went down
very quickly, and then continue to go down.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think Democrats are obsessed with politics in a way
that a lot of conservatives are aren't. For one thing,
so this could be some Trump backlash. I also have
to observe that the people that are self identified Democrats
are very, very different twenty five years on than they
(07:03):
were in two thousand.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, it looks to me party's way to the left
looks to me like when Trump was elected. And it
did go down fairly steeply after Trump was elected, But
at the time Trump was elected it was down into
the sixties. How did you go from ninety percent into
the sixties during two terms of Bush and two terms
of Obama?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, well, I tell you my theory, and I'm pretty
sure I'm right. Here's a couple of headlines to illustrate
the point. Minneapolis public schools have prohibited white and Asian
students from taking classes on black culture and black queens
and all sorts of woke stuff, the obsession with race,
the whole critical theory crowd.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And then you have this one. This is also Minneapolis
public schools.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
They have declared capitalism a pillar of white supremacy in
a required Ethnic studies class. Every kid has to take
this class and they are taught that capitalism are market
economy is a tool of white supremacy.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
With the with the caveat we always throw in. Its
easier said than done. How do you keep your kid
in that freaking school? I know to learn?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Now? If you not? Only do I don't agree with
your teaching style A f you. Yeah, yeah, I hate you.
That's hate. I hate you. You're a bad person.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's what I wanted to say to my son's history
teacher since I pulled my son out of that public
school class.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're a bad person.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You're actually damaging the country, you a whole well, a
lot of these people are actively damaging the country on purpose.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They're they're useful idiots who think they're doing what's morally right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are just idiots. These people are awful.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
But anyway, I think people who tend to be of
a conservative event have heard all of the critical race theory,
the DEI stuff, the trans radical stuff, and said, know,
what you're saying is not true. Whereas people of a
progressive point of view, for reasons we've discussed, when they're
you know, they're just born this way or whatever, or
(09:10):
sometimes they just want to be approved of, so they
will parrot whatever is being told to them is right,
just so that they get.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The approval of people around them.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
But people with a progressive Brent Bent heard all this
crap and said, oh my god, oh my god, this
is a terrible country.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The propaganda worked on them.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, I guess I was going to be intellectually honest.
It's because they think they're helping a bad country by
teaching the things or thinking they you know, pointing to
the graph right here.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
They don't want think they're trying to destroy something that
they believe to be evil.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, if you think it's a bad country, you should
be trying to change it. I guess I just I
think it's really illustrates something that the Republican numbers held
steady through all the various things that have happened over
the last twenty five years. And a lot of things
have happened. It just kind of a flat line basically
nine of very or extremely proud. That's something that this is,
(10:06):
this is a problem.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, I'm digging more into the second Minneapolis story, and
it's so interesting. It's like studying the propaganda tactics of
the Soviet Union or Russia or whatever, but they're really
hammering ethnic studies on the kids. Ethnic studies is an
anti racist tool, they say, identify these structural inequalities that
(10:32):
are part of K through twelve. They're going to decolonize education,
and there's all sorts of there. They read ibramex Kenny
and the other jokers and liars of Neomarxism. But it's
a classic example of everything that the neo Marxists hate
they call racist or based on white supremacy, and all
(10:53):
the poor sheep, weak minded people who all they know
is I don't want to be a racist. I know
being racist is bad. These people are telling me what's
racist and what's not. I will believe them and I
will obey them. They are calling everything, including the free market,
white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's because they're Marxists.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
They don't want the free market call something racist until
you control it. It's so obvious what's happening here, and
they brand it all with anti racism, and they teach
the poor little kids, we're gonna tell you about decolonizing
this and anti racism, that it's all bent on tearing
down the Western systems.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, and the reason my kid is no longer in
that American history class. It seemed to be, at least
in the first two months, all bent on convincing you
the country was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's the only thing they'd learned so far, right, which
is wild.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
And I don't want to be the kind of guy
that buys into this notion that you can only have
friends who are in your side politically, or i'm single,
can only date, you know, based on politics. I don't
want to live in that world. But based on this graph,
I might not have any choice. Right, how could I
be in a relationship with somebody who thinks this is
a bad country, which apparently is two thirds of Democrats.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean, that's a tough situation. I'd be a heck
of a thing to overlook in your lives.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it would come up a lot,
especially because everybody's so obsessed with politics lately.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's wild.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, it is. It's sick. It's I mean, and I
don't know. I could go on and on about this stuff.
But the subversion of the United States has been a
project of those who would either want to dominate us
or just hate us for ideological reasons for a very
very long time. And one of the ways you do
it is to inject Marxism into everything in sheep clothing
(12:43):
and they've been incredibly successful at that. The other thing
is you constantly pit people against each other, which is
why you know so much of online hatred and sniping
back and forth as bots or foreign agents and that
sort of stuff. But then once you get that going,
it sustains. It's like when you get the whirlpool going
in your above ground pool or whatever. Once you get
(13:05):
it started, it keeps going. You don't have to work
at it anymore. And that's what you know. The people
who hate the United States have gotten going through our
educational systems, which should be torn down to the foundation
and rebuilt or just abandoned by parents with conscience.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I can't see looking at this graph, I can't see
any reason to think that those down numbers from Independence
and Democrats aren't going to trend the direction, keep going
the direction they're going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean, how low will it get?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, we've let wolves into the henhouse of education. I
feel so for parents who know all of this but
they can't afford or don't have time to get their
kid in an alternate educational environment. I understand how tough
that was, but it's beyond a problem. It's horrifying what
(13:57):
kids are being taught in government school.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gretty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Have we ever talked about Universe twenty five before? I
feel like we probably have, But we've been doing this
radio show for thirty years, so it could have been
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Project twenty twenty five right from Heritage.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Universe twenty five. It's a famous mouse experiment from back
in the day.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh right, yeah, go aheads.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Between nineteen sixty eight and nineteen seventy two, he studied
these mice. He created a mouse utopia experiment to see
what would happen. I think you'll see parallels to today
with these mice. The basic setup is the utopia. Utopia
included an enclosure with unlimited food, water, nesting materials, and
(14:59):
no preduce. For these mice, he started with four breeding
pairs and then let the population develop naturally again food
whether food, water, protection, all your basic needs met and
no predators. The population initially grifi WiFi, fast streaming, exactly
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Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The population initially grew exponentially, but at around day five sixty,
the growth began to slow dramatically.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They stopped having little mice babies at a certain point.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Despite having physical space and resources, the mice developed behavioral pathologies.
Dominant males became extremely aggressive. Subordinate males withdrew completely. Some mice,
mostly males, completely disengaged from social life, only eating, drinking,
and grooming themselves obsessively. Female mice abandoned their young and
infant mortality skyrocketed. Wow, young mice never learned social and
(15:54):
mating behaviors from their parents, if you will, and by
Sicky six hundred, no new mice were being born in
the population eventually went extinct. Now, as it says here
in the summary, people are not mice and mice are
not people.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Their point, Come on now, yeh.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I have known a handful of people who were completely
taken care of trust fund kids, that sort of person,
and the vast majority of those stories do not have
joyful endings or descriptions.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
No, but this is what I've been saying about. We
stopped having babies. This is what I've been thinking of
first world countries. We don't have any threats, We were
not going to be invaded by another country, and we
have our basic need needs met. Even if you got
people marching in the street because their house is not
as big as their neighbor's house or whatever it is.
Our basic needs are being met, and we're stopping getting together.
We're starting to act weird.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
True.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, well, and it's absolutely known scientifically that struggle raises
your testosterone and victory raises it even more. We're meant
to strive and fight, whether the literal battles or metaphorical battles,
and we're not meant to lay around to be comfortable
as beings interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Armstrong Jack guitar.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
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Speaker 2 (17:58):
What gosh.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That was Dave Portnoy of.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Barstool Sports Fame, great entrepreneur, personality, etc. Doing a pizza
review outside a restaurant for his channels and everything because
he's a big pizza fiend like myself, and some guy
recognized either him or that Dave is Jewish and said,
(18:26):
f the Jews.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Dave Ruben, speaking of influencers, had a comments or two.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
The point of that clip is that there's Dave Portnoy,
a guy who cares about sports and who really loves pizza,
and he's doing a pizza review and some kid who
likely you would have to by every estimation, that kid
whoever did that, that young man is a point Day's fan,
probably a Tucker fan. So these things then do start
manifesting into real life. And then would that kid, I
(18:58):
don't know, burned out a Jewish owned bakery that happened
in Germany in the nineteen thirties, would that happen?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Like where does this go?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And Dave Riff's on that question for a while, and
I say, well, said the idea that even like two
years ago somebody would have said f the Jews to
Dave portantly is he reviews a pizza, right, So I
think Dave's right. This stuff leaches into real life. And
read a terrific piece by a terrific woman who writes
(19:32):
for the Free Press, bought ya Unger Sargon, who's interestingly enough,
authored two books, second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's
working men and Women, and another called Bad News, How
woke media is undermining democracy. So her bona fides on
our side of you know, the ideological wars, unimpeachable, really
(19:54):
really smart lady, and she talks a lot about the
whole Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson's thing, the crazy crazy ass
Candas owns, and also some of their stuff crazy double crazy,
crazy crazy ass. And she writes about it at fair length.
I'm just going to touch on a little bit because
then she gets to another aspect of this that I
(20:14):
find interesting. But over the last decade, she writes the
left hard everyone to the right at Joe Manchin is
a fascist, as a Nazi, as a racist.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It was always a canard.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yet now far right content creators have decided to try
to prove that the left was correct by widening the
Overton window to include the airing of Nick fuents views
in an uncritical manner, and she mentioned in a recent example,
Fox News contributor or YouTuber Brett Cooper posted a video
condemning those seeking to keep the actual Nazis out of
(20:46):
the Republican Party. She read out an ex post from
Senator Cruz. They don't kill you because you're a Nazi.
They call you a Nazi so they can kill you,
and then accused Cruise of hypocrisy because he accurately pointed
out that foynt as admires Hitler. Cooper wrote, So, now
you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Don't like a Nazi. Did you catch the logic?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Because the left called good hearted conservatives Nazis, Therefore no
one can be denounced as a Nazi, including people who
literally praise Hitler. What follows is all Nazis must be welcome.
Because the left called people who are at Nazis Nazis,
checkmate neo cons It's utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I thought that was well put h Cooper says.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
The Republicans are using the same tactics that the left
has been using against us for years.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Again, that's not the right turning in the left. It's
the sound of Cooper and other content creators doing their
best to prove the left.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right that conservatives are secret bigots.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Somehow they've managed to convince themselves that disagreeing with someone
is itself cancel culture. But contrary to what those sanitizing
fointes wants you to believe, the bru ha haas and
splitting the right, it's splitting the political and cultural right
from the content creators who make their money off Globe
Lobo online audiences. And the title of the piece is
(22:04):
that the real split on the right.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
What as hell? Heck there?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It is influencers versus conservatives. And here's where it gets
even more interesting. Takes a turn that I found intriguing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
With a lot of.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Conservatives using finger quotes because it's kind of a squishy
term in this case, with a lot of conservatives not
really realizing this as they take in their social media
feed every day.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, these creators have found that their online audience is
crave anti Israel content, and as a result, they've tried
to frame the dust up as being about Israel and
free speech. This is obviously nonsense. It's not a violation
of free speech to condemn someone for nodding along as
a white nationalist. Sully's everything Trump is built. It's not
cancel culture to say, actually, Nazis are bad, uh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
So and she goes into some more detail about it
that I think I think we've covered. If Carlson ed
Fuente is on a show to do a thorough critique
of his anti semitism and racism, as he did of
Ted Cruz's christian Zionism. There might have been some backlash,
but not for me. It was the unchallenged airing of
bile in their frequentaries of agreement.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's smacked of sanitization.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Can you even imagine a person who advocates puberty blockers
for children getting such a pass from a conservative influencer.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
No, of course, not when fun because I watched the
video with the Nick Fuentees on with Tucker Carlson when
he said Nick Fuentes mentions a date and says, you know,
I know that date Stalin's birthday. I love Stalin and
Tucker says, you love Stalin and makes a face like
what the F Now, we'll get to that later, which
they don't. I mean, who wouldn't interviewing somebody stop whatever
(23:50):
you were talking about at that moment and say, h,
let's do a dive into this hole.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You love Stalin thing right?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I mean, who doesn't stick with that subject as soon
as someone says to you, I love Stalin, I have
his birthday memorized. Okay, what and why?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
But Tucker just was like clearly shocked by that, as
any normal person would be.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Right, But we'll get that don't circle back to that
and circle back to it. No, no, no, everything stops
and you talk about that unless you have a different
purpose anyway. One more bit of what she writes, what
those defending fontes are really saying is free speech means
Nazis get to be part of our movement. And we've
(24:33):
gotten a couple of emails from like young folks on
the right who've said, no, that's a lie, He's.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Not a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Look, you can't praise Hitler, deny the Holocaust and blame
the Jews for everything and say I'm a Nazi or
people are gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Call you a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay, you don't want those people to be with you anyway.
It sounds crazy when you lay it out like that,
but it's actually driven by a very real financial incentive.
Many content creators make their money on social media.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they
already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you. Oh,
it finds you an audience and then rewards you for
immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The
flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them.
Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting
(25:28):
your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers
are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their
entire livelihood depends on it.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even
seek out content like that, But I know I'm being
fed stuff that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Zuckerberg or you know.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Whoever's in charge at Google or whatever, that they think
I want, and so I miss out on other stuff.
I don't want to miss out on other stuff. I
want to see the other stuff. Some of it I
don't agree with, but I might.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed
me as a very specific sort of person right and
has only given me that stuff. And I wish, I
hope there's a platform that in the future lets you
flip off your algorithm when you want to, like what
else is going on in the world, Turn off my
algorithm and just give me what's popular for everyone, or
maybe you could choose other people's algorithms. Show me the
(26:21):
algorithm of somebody who is on Kamala Harris voter or whatever.
So I get different news because it really worries me
that that I'm being funneled stuff and I have no
control over it.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And we've talked in a lighthearted way about this too.
You know, when, for instance, my alma mater, the University
of Illinois, is playing good football, I'll click on college
football stories more. Then all of a sudden, my algorithms
act like I'm Dabo Sweeney himself, you know, some college
football coach, and I'll just get flooded with it. It's like,
leave me alone anyway. But ideologically is a much more
(26:54):
significant example. So final part of this. So oh, and
for what it's worth, and I don't want to sound
like I we are galloping along on a white horse
in shining armor, combination of age and you know, a
fair level of financial comfort. I couldn't give a crap
(27:18):
what people agree with or don't agree with. I am
going to speak the truth as I see it, period,
And you either appreciate that even if you disagree, and
my goodness, you're welcome to disagree. We can still be friends.
I will not do what's being described here. I find
it despicable. My sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed
(27:40):
of me if I did it, and that is a
far higher standard to me than what's in my bank
account anyway. So she describes how their entire livelihood depends
on pleasing their audience, that is, getting fed the algorithm
of what they already think, what they already believe. People
point to the millions of views popular podcasters get as
proof of their influence and relevance, but content creators are
(28:01):
deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and
conservatives are on many issues. And this is why they're
not reading the room. They're reading the comments section under
their videos, which are filled with people who do not
reflect the views of normal Americans.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
You're right, it's a two way straight. It's bad for me.
What I was just saying that I don't want to
be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm, and this
is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back
to them is not good for them, right.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And let's see.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the here
at his foundation, getting way off track and forgetting partly
that these platforms have global reach, so they look at
a YouTube video that has five million views and suddenly
think it means five million young American men agree with it,
and we must not anger the young men by suggesting
Hitler is bad. As she makes a great point, this
(28:51):
would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built the
most multi racial, working class coalition the Republican parties had
in generations, and many people are proud of it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
He's also Donald Trump the best friend Israel's ever had
for any US president.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yes, absolutely, and as a Jewish son in law and
his daughter converted right anyway, And she finally, she writes,
I've been hard to see how many Christians have stood
up and vocally denounced Fantes over the past week.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That's the way to keep.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Power, not with Nazis or those who would really rather
you didn't condemn them. Luckily, despite the best efforts of
some podcasters, the GOP seems to understand that now.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I certainly do.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Even as awful a human being as I think, Nick
Fuentes is spreading awful things, I don't want to be
unfair to him. So I'm gonna say I don't have
any idea if this next thing I'm about to say
is true or not this stuff I saw on Twitter,
but there seems to be an attempt to bring him down.
I mean, he's got powerful enemies with some videos I
(29:51):
saw of him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have
sex with underage other dudes, and and saying some things
that at least it looked like the way they were
portrayed in these videos as him being pretty interested in
younger guys. Like I said, I don't have any idea
(30:13):
if these are AI creations or if they're true or not.
Even as bad as I think Nick Fuentes is, I
don't want to claim this if I don't know if
it's true, But there is that attempt out there to
make him that sort of person. Now, some of the
statements he's made about his sexuality and sex and everything
like that, it's pretty weird. Yeah, he's in a weird
He's in a weird place sexually.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
He's an edge lord too. He's constantly saying things that
are meant to offend and shock.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So so what's his sex thing? He thinks all women are.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah that he said the only really straight heterosexual position
is to be an asexual. In cell he refers to
himself as a Nazi, twink, submissive gay man. What's interesting
about the people trying to run him down. There's a
great piece in The Free Beacon about how the New
York Times we mean, yes, okay, attractive, Wow, swipe left
(31:09):
or right or whichever one it is. Well, what's interesting
is the Free Beacon as a terrific piece about how
the New York Times and others are trying to elevate
this guy because then they can They are go with
the narrative, the course, here's here's your conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Wow. So that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Like pictures that are touched up to make him look
extra handsome and cool in.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
The New York Times.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Is there, My god, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So you're trying to elevate a Nazi.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
And give him more of a platform, make him more money,
make him more popular, because you think ultimately that will
hurt the other side.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's like if a guy like me gave five thousand
dollars to Donnie's campaign.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Man, you talk about that idea.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
The force for the trees or whatever saying fits this,
but wow, cutting off your nose despite your face. I
know there's some saying that fits this situation. But I'm
not sure what it is you're cutting off the baby
to despite the bath.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Walk exactly, the cutting the loaf in half, I don't know.
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, ar Jack, your show podcasts and our Hot Lakes,
the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation
into Tesla's full self driving system. Officials now say they've
received more than fifty reports of traffic safety violations and
reports of several injuries.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I have FSD in my newest Tesla, but the technology
has changed so much over the last five years that
I've been four years that I've been driving Tesla's some
of the older cars, I mean, are they all the
newer models.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I mean, it's all so complicated.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I don't know if we'll ever reach full self driving
that insurance companies and states allow.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I really don't know if that'll ever happen. Hmmm. I
would guess yes, I mean, but I have no idea when.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
What the existence of WAIMO you'd think is going to happen.
But that's a completely different model or way of doing it.
You can do it for an individual city where you
map every single sidewalk, alley, everything into the computer system
of that car. Can you do that for the whole
country to allow your or do you buy or do
you start buying cars that this car is just programmed
(33:31):
to drive in within fifty miles or where you live.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Maybe that's the way it'll work.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, I'm out of my depth there, Donnie. I was
reading about self piloting planes is almost certainly the future
in a lot of realms. But they point out that
the pilot reassures everybody when there's unexpected turribulence or you know,
just to if you're walking on the plane, you turn
left and there's nobody in the cockpit, you glance to
your left. That would freak people out. It would take
(33:58):
a long time to get consumer accepts, they were pointing out.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Oh, I would say, the self driving on my newest
vehicle is fantastic. It has never made a mistake as
far as I know, even close to it. It's better than
I am. Really, it can see things I can't see.
This is a very interesting story that we want to
touch on.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
A frightening new prank taking over social media across TikTok.
People generating ai images of a stranger in their house
and then sending the photos to their loved ones. The
pranks as texting things like he says he knows you
and I told him he can take a nap, sending
their families into a panic, at times ending with police
knocking on their door.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Oh, I was just trying to mess with my mom,
and she took it seriously.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
No calls are ranked and priority, and something like this
would be a high priority.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Police departments across the country saying they're getting nine to
one one calls from parents thinking their child is actually
in danger. Police issuing a warning to users that pulling
pranks like.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
These that I'm just messing with you. It's ai.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Criminal charges you stupid, see unplug the Internet.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
God, you are a freaking moron. I'm disappointed you're my child.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I better take a look at the way I invest
because I'm gonna be taking care of you for the
rest of my life, because you're too freaking stupid to exist,
I mean strong, Maybe, how can you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Possibly think I know what I'll do.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
I'll have my parents think a stranger has broken into
the house and I can't get him to leave.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That'll be funny.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
God, you are an awful human being, or your brain
is broken.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Utterly lacking in judgment. Oh my god, yeah, that is
I terrific. How can a person be that blind?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I don't know, I don't know. It's got to be small,
is it.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
You know, kids are so easily led that they see
it online.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
They're told it's funny.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
They have no independent judgment because they're sheep issue, and
and so they go ahead and do it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
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