November 26, 2025 • 36 mins
The A&G Replay from November 26, 2025 Hour 1 contains:
- AI Robot Glitch
- Joe can't sleep and what he thinks about while awake
- Longevity medicine
- DEI & the Secret Service
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Armstrong and Jettie and Hee.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Armstrong, Caddy Strong.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
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after this. What are you doing there? Just chilling?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're ready to help?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hey optimist? You know where I can get a coke?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I don't, and I have a real time info, but
I can take you to the kitchen if you want
to check for a coke there.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh yeah, that'd be great. Go, yes, let's do that
and then it just stands there. Let's go awesome at
head to the kitchen. That's okay, okay, go I think
it's I think we need to give it a.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay. So that's the voice obviously of right there who
said we need to give it more room. They were
standing too close. I guess you can take that down, Michael.
They're standing next to Optimists as they're all going to
go to the kitchen to get a coke, and Optimist
who was just standing there looking at him, I wis
and Elon said, I think we need to back up
a little bit. Anyway. My takeaway from that video was
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we ain't even close yet. We're not even close to
robots taking over yet. Now it's moving pretty fast. Maybe
it'll be exponentially better in a year. I'm sure it
will be. But the fact that Elon has got a
trillion dollar incentive paction package now from Tesla, and he's
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focusing mostly on Optimist, the AI robot more than the
electric cars, I don't know. It seems like we're a
long way away. Where do I get a coke? I
don't know where to get and it stops, gets hung
in sort of glitch, has no idea, and then it
just stands there. It's I thought it would be further
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along than that.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Didn't you wait a minute. I just googled where do
people keep cokes? It suggested the refrigerator, which is often
in a human kitchen. Let's go to the kitchen, All right,
let's go. You go first.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm not trying to come off as a guy who
mocks to achnology thinking it will never because I'm sure
it will be a thing eventually. But it's not as
close as I thought. But didn't you think that optimist
robot would be more impressive than that?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah, certainly before you trotted it out to do what
they just did, right right, right, right right. You know,
I'm reminded of Elon trotting out the cyber truck for
the first time and saying, and the windows cannot be shattered.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Boom, he shatters the window. So this article, we got
a couple of AI stories for you. This article in
the Wall Street Journal today about China's push to catch
up with and surpassity the United States is flipping troubling.
For instance, this paragraph the escalating AI race is drawing
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comparisons with the Cold War and the great scientific and
technological clashes that characterized it. It is likely to be
at least as consequential. The AI race between US and
China is going to be at least as consequent is
the Cold War between US and the Soviet Union, if
you're old enough to have lived through that, Holy crap.
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China realized that all the big a AI was going
to be the next big thing, maybe the next big
only thing on planet Earth, and it was way behind
Open AI, Google, all the American companies that were doing
so well, and then decided we got to do something.
And they've done a whole of nation effort to try
to catch up and poured a ton of money into
it and relaxed all kinds of regulations, which is highly
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troubling and even silenced concerns.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
You know, I was just hey, quit talking about safety
and what's best for humanity. We don't have time. I
mentioned My favorite quote in the article is from JD.
Vance and he argued this in February, the AI future
is not going to be won by hand ringing about safety.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, he's right, I understand what he's saying. What he's
wanting to say is China and Russia, mostly China, because
China's got the money to put into this. China's gonna
do whatever the hell they want. And if they beat
us to the punch on this, it ain't gonna make
any difference. That we tried to be ethical and safe
about it, it ain't gonna make any difference.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And I'm certainly the wrong guy to ask this question,
but I find myself wondering, can their AI essentially crush
our AI if it gets to you know, whatever critical
stage first, it can mess with our efforts and our
programs and databases and the rest of it to the
point that it blows ours up.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, it could be some sort of like on purpose
effort like that, But I take in a ton of
AI information reading and listening to podcasts with the smartest
people in the world talking about this. The more likely
concern is without any attempt whatsoever to ethically control it,
it just gets loose on its own and gets into
computers and travels around the world and just kind of
does its own thing. And then then the genie is
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out of.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
The bottle, which is pretty much inevitable. How do we
prevent that though? I mean, even if we're first, oh,
we can't, okay, never mind having your oregans harvested. I mean,
because even if we beat them to the punch by
five years. When they catch up five years later, unless
our AI can trump their Ai, they will unleash it.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And the hell you were speaking of, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
My big first of all, that paragraph about the Cold War,
I find just like bone chilling. I don't. I don't
feel like the population is taking this like the challenge
that it is. The way the Cold War was. I mean,
my dad grew up hiding underneath his desks in rural
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Iowa in case the Russians dropped the bomb, but it
was on their radar that we were in a you know,
fight to the death with a foe that was close
enough to where he to have to worry about it.
I don't feel like people feel that way about China
and Ai. The average person doesn't have any idea any
of this is happening. No, no, which is troubling. I think,
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my uh, I guess we're better off that way.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I mean, because if we spend all of our time
terrified of our if our AI overlords, that's no way
to live. Instead, you'll be going about your business. One
day you'll turn around, there's a robot beyond you. You'll think, wow,
that's weird. Then it'll suffer your head. I mean, it's
just like that, and you won't have suffered the fear.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Hard to imagine. No, ahead, But what are you gonna do? Yeah,
I suppose worrying about it and not much you can
do about it. I was gonna, says, as a guy
who cares about his money, I worry about the economy
and what's gonna happen and whether or not this is
all a bubble and it's going to completely collapse, and
it is chip companies trading money with AI companies back
and forth and investing each other, and it could bust
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and it doesn't turn out to be what they said.
But well that one of the other leads to or
that have got for today the right here. Yan Lukun
is Meta's chief AI scientist, the top guy working on
AI for Zuckerberg, who has spent tens of billions of dollars.
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I think he spent one hundred billion dollars on this project.
His lead scientist is leaving and starting his own company.
All of these people, including the Chinese, can't all be wrong,
can they? That it turns into a dot com bubble
where it's like, oh, I guess AI is not going
to be profitable or do anything.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So never mind, gosh, I wouldn't think so, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Think Elon and Zuckerberg and China and everybody else could
be wrong about this. So that's what leads me to
believe that this is going to be a thing unfolding
in front of our eyes at some point and then
looming behind us and severing our heads. So you say
that all the time, which is funny, But do you
do you have a real world sense of bad things
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that AI could do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It goes back to the commonly spoken theme of AI
decides the only thing impeding it is human beings or
the only thing impeding the planet being at peak health
is human beings.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I mean, those are the two classic why they would
sever our heads.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And then even if they don't do that, what if
it wipes out seventy five percent of jobs?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well right right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
And then political turmoil and revolution in the straits, et cetera,
et cetera while you're fighting robots. Great, oh yeah, no kidding, Wow.
So a couple more quick AI notes. I thought this
was really interesting. The Wall Street Journal reporting that Anthropic,
which is the company behind Claude, expects to break even
for the first time in twenty twenty eight. By contrast,
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Open AI the chat GPT folks plan, they're forecasting, they're
operating losses that year twenty twenty eight will be about
seventy four billion dollars. They will lose seventy four billion
dollars in twenty twenty eight, or roughly three quarters of revenue,
thanks to ballooning spending on computing costs. And they don't
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think they'll They're gonna burn through roughly fourteen times as
much cash as Anthropic before turning a profit in twenty thirty.
But certainly don't take my word for it. Through the
Wall Street Journal and invest carefully.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, and then you've got this story of Amazon that
never made any money and was losing money like crazy,
and I remember all the jokes about it never turned
to profit and everything like that, and obviously came to
dominate the landscape in so many different ways eventually.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And then I'm sorry, Michael's what did you say to us? Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Price pick yea just a second coming up in one
more AI note from a website I had never heard of,
sent to us by alert listener Hillbilly Savingcountry music dot
Com The headline is AI song's top Billboard chart. Why
we need transre and c now. All right, so I
just opened this up again. Thank you Hillbilly for sending
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this along. There's an alarmingly low sense of urgency. They
write about a rapidly developing dilemma that threatens to absolutely
eviscerate everything we know and love about music in a
matter of months. We're talking about AI, of course, but
it feels almost embarrassing and trite at this point even
bring it up in such a breathless context, in part
because we all have an inherent sense of how catastrophic
AI is going to be for the human creators and
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how inevitable its impacts ultimately are.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
You know?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hillbilly mentioned that the guy who wrote this is a
terrific writer, and he is. Wow, that's some some good
writing anyway, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't know?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But they there's the picture of AI generated artist breaking rust.
It's a little too perfect, country looking bearded guy in
a cowboy hat and right all.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Uh handsome, rugged yet sensitive?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yes, how'd you know? You must have seen this picture, Papa?
But do we expect Congress to address this existential crisis
facing human creators. They're saying we should do something about it,
attempt to install some guardrails and guideposts, and expend at
least a modicum of effort to at least make sure
the public is aware of weight, what is AI and
what is not.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, there's some effort by lots of people that you
have to declare something in AI creation. Do you think
that makes any difference? You dig in a song, Oh
it's AI, will never mind? Then I don't right, either
like it or I don't like it. Do you think
I'd like it more if it turns out it's a
human Maybe maybe I find out it's some thirty four
year old former drug addict was in jail. You know,
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I'm thinking of a what's the guy Jelly World type
of story or something like that that hooks you.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
M yeah, because the sentiment in the song seems much
more real. You've asked the key question. That's a super
interesting question. Will people still enjoy it? This guy's advocating
any piece of music made by AI or even partially
may AI, must be a clar to such to the
public period. So like, if you use AI to clean
up the bassline, I don't know, because your bass player's
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drunk or something.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't know, because evidently this breaking.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Rust song walk My Walk top the Billboard Country Digital
Song Sales Chart.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
An AI track was number one song in country.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm going to listen to that during the break.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Please didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We can't play it for copywriting reasons, but I'm going
to listen to it to the break. See what I think?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I read it into a weird world.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, yeah, I and everybody's guessing.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But the people with a lots of money, like the
richest people on earth, are guessing that it's going to
be a big deal and going to be profitable. I
don't know if there are any super wealthy people are saying, nah,
this is overhyped. I'll be in the woods if you
need me. Man, Well, good luck the AI robot. But
currently can't find a coke. We'll be able to find
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you in the wood to chop off your head for
whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Look, honey, look at that squirrel zeros and ones flashed
in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It sends down about it?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
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podcasts and our hot links.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So I uh for various reasons.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
My doctor hit me with a pregnozone prescription and it's
totally screwed up my sleep. Last night I was awake
for two solid hours, my mind just racing in the
middle of the night last night.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Hey damn, yeah, no doubt. Oh my gosh, Yeah, didn't
make your raven to see hungry. That's what I always
had with pregnant zone.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Actually, my stomach's kind of upset right now.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
But anyway, So two things occupied my two hours of
like high speed thinking. Number one, I wrote, and rewrote,
and like combed through and perfected the first class of
a college class in basic economics that focuses on how
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laws and regulations and prices cause people to change their
behavior Logical economics. I was going to call it, so
when you're trying to sleep, you couldn't sleep, So you
came up with a curriculum for a one hundred level
college class and economics that I will never teach. That's correct,
that's relaxing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
The second thing I did when that was perfected was
I was working on the speech. You poor teachers, and
I'm thinking mostly of Californians, but in blue states everywhere,
and if your school district does this sort of stuff.
You poor teachers who are writing us emails this week saying, yeah,
we're in our mandatory DEI training right now. Guys, this
stuff is not dead. It is still here, and they're
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being humiliated and told that getting your work done on
time is white supremacy. Being diligent is white supremacy, and
all of that just utter garbage. And so I was
like writing a speech for you that you could stand
up and say, excuse me, I hate to interrupt this,
but this is racist garbage, and it's wasting all of
our time and worse, and here's why exactly, and then
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you would explain to them briefly that DEI does not
have anything to do with racial harmony or anything.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's a tool of capture, it's a tool of takeover.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
If you have three people up for the job of
boss and you can say one of those guys is
a racist, he will not get that authority, he will
not get that money, he will not get the good stuff.
And if you start calling everybody a racist who you
don't want to have power, and everybody's like afraid to
say that doesn't seem like racism to me, then you're
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in power DEI needs to end wherever it exists everywhere
in America today.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It has nothing to do with race.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
It is a Marxist technique to capture institutions.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
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The last show.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
At seventy five. Both men and women.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Fall off a cliff at seventy five. It's a population level.
It's unmistakable what happens at the age of seventy five.
That's what we're up against. That's what I'm thinking about
in the practice, is how do I create an escape
velocity that gets somebody another fifteen years There.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Doctor Peter atya Atia, however he pronounce his name, was
on sixty Minutes on Sunday Night. He's very well known
for some of you because he's written some books that
have sold millions of millions copies about how to get
a little more enjoyment years out of your life.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Right, not just prolonging life, but prolonging quality years.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I immediately put my hand over my watch in my
wallet when anybody ever starts talking about health stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Because there's just a lot of.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, very few people ever want to come out
and just say, well, you got to eat less and
exercise more would be the main way to lose weight,
as opposed to I've got a new way that nobody's
ever thought of before.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You eat only things that match this paint chips.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's called beije eating only eat things that are beige,
the monochromatic diet. But this guy, I thought that was interesting.
Of course, your mileage may vary. It happens a little
earlier for some people, a little later like my dad
for some people, but in general, at seventy five you
just go off a cliff, and he wants to extend
that out a little further. Not your life span, but
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the years that you can actually do stuff and enjoy yourself. Right.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, I'll hold my takeaway from that segment back.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't want to steal anybody's thunder.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Here's Nora O'Donnell from sixty minutes talking to the doctor, and.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
So is your goal to minimize or essentially erase that
marginal decade.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
The marginal decade's not going anywhere. We will all have
a final decade of life. My goal is to make
the marginal decade as enjoyable as possible. The way I
explain it to my patients is that last ten to
fifteen of your years, if you don't do anything about it,
you will fall to a level of about fifty percent
of your time total capacity cognitively, physically.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And people hear that, you're like, I don't want to
be that.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
That's not how I want to spend the last decade
of my life.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
A lot of people respond that way as though they're
hearing this for the first time, although if you ask them,
haven't you seen people in this state, they'll say, well, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I have right, likely their own relatives, sure, their own parents.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Even well, I'm fairly functional on my best day, So
you know, fifty percent of that oof.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's getting down there? Yeah, hey, iikes. That is a
funny aspect of human beings that even though we most
of us experience it with family members or whatever, we
feel like it's not going to happen to us or something.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's yes, yeah, I don't. I don't have that old
guy attitude. I'm not going to be somewhat stooped over
and complain about arth right.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Or we're and this is a slightly different topic, but
not completely. I was talking to a guy last night
who's a friend of mine, and he's dealing with his
mom's final years and how they're going to deal with it,
and just that stat that I always think about, where
like ninety eight percent of people say they want to
die at home, ninety eight percent of people don't die
at home, right, and for a variety of reasons. But anyway,
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let's hear it a little more of this before we
discuss go on.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I think this is the neglected part of medical testing
is how fit are you?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How strong are you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
How well do you move and up overhead?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And in many ways these tests are even more predictive
of how long you're going to live than what I might.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Get out of your blood work.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
How do we know that?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
The data are pretty clear when you look at things
like cardio respiratory fitness, when you look at muscle mass,
when you look at strength, they have a much higher
association than things like even cholesterol and blood pressure.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
You think anyone, whether they're forty five or sixty five,
should be training like athletes, not for the Olympics, but
essentially for advanced age.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Absolutely, life is a sport of that idea.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I didn't hear anything that he said that contradicted things
that I've learned through the years about how to age well,
having to do with strength and flexibility and various measures.
The guy just struck me as a really high end,
extremely thorough personal trainer with a medical background.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I hear a lot of faux medical crap, and.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
That seemed to be just I mean, essentially, he's going
to turn you into an Olympic athlete. Some of the
exercise regimens and tests they were going to do in all,
how could they not help you live longer? It looked
like an enormous amount of work.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah. One of the reviews of one of his books,
his work has exploded in popularity amid the longevity boom,
but he stresses evidence over hype, urging people to train
seriously for vibrant old age rather than chasing quick fixes,
which was what I was talking about earlier. The crawl
like a dog exercise or what the lot new things?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, and I know a couple of people who fly
to like South American capitals to get various infusions. You
know people who do that, Yes, infusions of what one
guy in particular, I can't remember exactly how they blood
of a thirteen year old, blood of a ten year
own serum it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The plasma of the jaguar. I don't know exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You know people who fly to other countries, yes, to
get infusions.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The guy is super into the anti aging thing, like
you know less about doctor Atilla, who again struck me
as a lot more legit than ninety percent of what
I hear about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But yeah, he's super into it. He believes that. He's
a very smart guy.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
He's been very successful, although you know, one sort of
success doesn't necessarily translate.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
To good judgment in another way. But he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But if you got a lot of money, what are
you going to spend your money on that's better than
trying to have more enjoyable years of your life? And well,
you know, if there's a five percent chance that works,
if you got a lot of money, it makes more
sense to do that than with about cow Wich. We
were talking about early exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
You were talking about this four hundred and fifty six
thousand dollars chair and a what was the name of that? Again,
you can take the boy out of the working class,
but you can't take the work. And oh here it
is a Jeanreer type sofa for a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It makes sense to me completely that we are designed
to continue to work our minds and bodies, and then
as soon as we stop, they just decide, well, I guess,
guess we're done.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Right right?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I think it just it helps to remind yourself over
and over again. You are an animal. You are a
biological being, no different than beavers. Beavers don't have long,
happy retirements. Look at my teeth they where they said,
are those dentures beaver dentures?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
They look totally natural? Well, they don't. Look at you.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I brought down a sapling yesterday. Good man, you gotta
stay in Jape. No, but the invention of a I
have reproduced. I have raised my young I have functioned
as the village elder, and now I'm just I play
golf and I watched movies that doesn't exist in the
animal world. We invented that, right, So you got to
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think about, all right, what is every other beast doing? Well,
it's alive, it stays active. You've got to stay active.
I believe that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I don't want to be annoying works out guy. So
I probably shouldn't say this very of a but I
go to the gym every single day, and I feel better.
I feel better now than I felt when I was forty.
I'm twenty years older than that. I am way more
in every way, feel better from exercising regularly. I hope
I can keep it up. I probably can't. Like I
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said earlier, I'm doing it only out of vanity.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it can't hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
No, it can't hurt. I'm just worried about when, you know,
like I said, I finally get a mate, I'll just
I'll become a you know, Jim Schmim huh. Let's I
watched TV. That's all the way over on the other
side of living. I'm gonna immediately go from going to
the gym every day to watching TV eating bowls of pudding,
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and the transition will be very seamless.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Riding around the grocery store on a rascal.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right exactly didn't I used to see you at the gym.
Maybe it all by way?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Wow, No, I'm predicting my future there. Your new bow
is going to sue you for fraud. Anyway. I thought
that was uh. I thought that was a damn interesting story.
Just the idea of looking at extending the enjoyable years
the whole your your body and mind drops off fifty
percent after seventy five.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And And in a similar vein the one medical story
that's caught my ear lately and really made an impression
is that study after study is coming act saying staying
physically active is good for your brain. Yeah, prevents Alzheimer's
and that sort of thing. It's just it's undeniable.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Jerry Seinfeld's big on that, he says that's why he
lifts weights is because all the studies that show how
what it does for your brain. So that's good too,
because my brain answer, I got it. I'm so damn lazy.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I gotta get it.
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Speaker 3 (27:40):
We mentioned one stupid fitness craze he got a real
fitness craze that is just came across yesterday. It's been
around for a while, but I want to talk about
it more. Hick. I think it's Hicks the hick. I'll
find it to tell it's a it's an acronym. We'll
get to that coming up next segment.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, So a.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Couple of examples of DEI madness and just proof of
what Jack and I and James Lindsay and others I've
been saying for the longest time. The DEI thing, it's
a tool of takeover. It has nothing to do with
what it claims it is. Here are a couple examples.
This is just great stuff from the editors of the
National Review. They're talking about how academics try to have
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it both ways. They claim to support diversity and robust
debate on campus right, but then they exclude any views
that challenge the left wing orthodoxy. And now an influential
academic publication is abandoning all pretense. The American Association of
University Professors, who in their very bylaws state that they
aim to champion academic freedom, advanced shared governance, and organize
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all faculty.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
To promote education for the common Good.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Well, their magazine just published an article seven theses against
viewpoint diversity by this lady professor at Johns Hopkins.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Wow, just flat out coming out against viewpoint diversity.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And she's the president of her university's AAUP chapter, the
American Association of University Professors. She is at Johns Hopkins,
which is a prominent university, so she's a super heavyweight
among professors.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I like John's. I feel like Hopkins is a bit
much anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So there's been plenty of criticism of her article, But
in an attempt to defend the article, the AAUP responded
with a following quote, Fascism generally doesn't do great under
peer review, but perhaps it's the intellectual values of academia,
which emphasizes critical inquiry and challenges traditional norms that may
be inherently less appealing to those with a more conservative worldview.
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In other words, academia skews way left because fascism doesn't
survive intellectual scrutiny. So they're saying anyone who isn't sufficiently
progressive and woke is a Nazi who needs to be
ejected from higher education. As the national If you guys, say,
could there be a more stark confirmation of the public's
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perception of universities as ideological hubs unaware of their own internal,
you know, one sidedness.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
They use a lot of fancy words, but.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
It is absolutely stunning coming out and saying no, we
don't have intellectual diversity because anybody who doesn't agree with us.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Is a fascist. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I butted up against this fairly recently in a way
I don't want to get into. But the crowd that
actually equates the term conservative with something incredibly evil, Like
it's not a political philosophy that's always existed and always
will exist and needs to exist. That's intension with you know,
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the other side, whatever you want to call it. It's
just it's flat out evil and should be given no
air whatsoever, which is nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
It is divorced from all reality, all wisdom. I would
never say that experience everything should be to the right
forever and never looked at in any other.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Way that I think that'd be. That makes you a
weird sort of person.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, it's an aspect of radical leftism and UH and
revolutionary movements in general. They are utterly intolerant of dissent.
I mean, that's kind of common.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
How do you ever come to how do you ever
come come to the conclusion, though maybe it's just a
way I'm built that you're right about everything, always right, always,
How do you get that way?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And the idea that I mean, the idea that there
is a Marxist professor who believes everything to the right
of Marxism is fascism. The fact that there's a professor
who believes that, I'd think.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
All right, you know, that's fine, takes all kinds.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
But the idea that there's nothing but that on American
universities or those who are not that are terrified to
even speak that, that's I mean, folks, that's a serious,
serious problem. And now they're just saying it openly, the
lead organization for professors saying, no, we don't want diversity
of opinion because you're fascists.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
On a much much lighter note, Real Clear Politics, with
an article out lately about how Biden's Secret Service was
so steeped in diversity, equity and inclusion DEI practices that
it could hardly function. Boy, did we see any examples
of that during Biden's reign. I don't know teenage or
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twenty year old jackass near dwells getting clear shots at
the president for instance. Anyway, Real Clear Politics noted the
former Secret Service director Kimberly Cheadle had pushed an initiative
under Biden quote to make the federal government a DEI
model for the nation, so that lady who's going to
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lead the Secret Service one the whole federal government to
be a model of DEI, which means more radical progressives.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's not diverse, the it's more progressives. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
She resigned from her post in July twenty four after
being unable or unwilling to answer questions from lawmakers on
how the agency failed to prevent the assassination attempt against Trump.
As he spoke in Butler, Pennsylvania, that we all remember
and keeping in mind, Real Clear Politics is a pretty
down the middle ish, typical slightly left journalism outfit. They
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offered further insight into the DEI push at the agency
during Biden's years, highlighting a reported overweight female agent who
was also a plus sized model and I read from
Real Clear Politics. Under Cheetle's leadership, DEI had become so
normalized that an overweight female agent who never passed her
physical fitness tests was not only retained on the staff,
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she was allowed to moonlight as a model. The agent
who was featured in a magazine profile traded on her
job in federal law enforcement and hinted at her Secret
Service position in a photoshoot labeled undercover but never underdressed god.
The female agent who bills herself as a nationally published
curve model, plus sized fashion and fitness influencer and body
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positivity advocate.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I feel like, even if she could do the physical
fitness stuff, that's not the sort of person you want
as a secret Service agent. Who's a model influencer type.
That just seems like a weird personality type to be
in the Secret Service.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
What other side hustles are allowed for secret Service agents?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah? Could you gi me a strip club DJ? Or
is there any limit to the sort of right?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Could you write like angry editorials for I don't know,
Breitbart or something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I don't know, I don't know anyway, here's a little more.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The gal, the big gall who never passed her test
at all, was assigned to protect Kamala Harris's stepdaughter LamaH
off in New York. After several failed attempts to pass
a physical fitness test, the agent was placed in the
Special Services Division, which had support functions for the agency,
including the maintenance of the armored vehicle fleet and the
screening of mail and packages for the White House Complex.
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According to four sources in the Secret Services community, you.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Know, there'd be so many people that want those jobs
in the Secret Service. There'd be so many candidates, And
you go ahead and let somebody who can't pass the
physical fitness test be on the team. I mean, that's
so weak, right next, right, you got two shots. Next, Sorry,
you can't do all the push ups or setups or
whatever you had to do.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Go back to being a nationally published curve model and
influencer and body positivity activist. And then they go into
several other scandals during the Biden years.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
But you get the idea. DEI is insidious.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It's a tool of Marxist takeover, and it devalues every
person of color, minority or woman or whatever who gets
a gig because they're suspected of being a DEI higher.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's awful.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're ready to help?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hey optimist? You know where I can get a coke?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I don't, and I have a real time info, but
I can take you to the kitchen if you want
to check for a coke there.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh yeah, that'd be great. Go, yes, let's do that
and then it just stands there. Let's go awesome at
head to the kitchen. That's okay, okay, go I think
it's I think we need to give it a.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay. So that's the voice obviously of right there who
said we need to give it more room. They were
standing too close. I guess you can take that down, Michael.
They're standing next to Optimists as they're all going to
go to the kitchen to get a coke, and Optimist
who was just standing there looking at him, I wis
and Elon said, I think we need to back up
a little bit. Anyway. My takeaway from that video was
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we ain't even close yet. We're not even close to
robots taking over yet. Now it's moving pretty fast. Maybe
it'll be exponentially better in a year. I'm sure it
will be. But the fact that Elon has got a
trillion dollar incentive paction package now from Tesla, and he's
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focusing mostly on Optimist, the AI robot more than the
electric cars, I don't know. It seems like we're a
long way away. Where do I get a coke? I
don't know where to get and it stops, gets hung
in sort of glitch, has no idea, and then it
just stands there. It's I thought it would be further
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along than that.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Didn't you wait a minute. I just googled where do
people keep cokes? It suggested the refrigerator, which is often
in a human kitchen. Let's go to the kitchen, All right,
let's go. You go first.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm not trying to come off as a guy who
mocks to achnology thinking it will never because I'm sure
it will be a thing eventually. But it's not as
close as I thought. But didn't you think that optimist
robot would be more impressive than that?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah, certainly before you trotted it out to do what
they just did, right right, right, right right. You know,
I'm reminded of Elon trotting out the cyber truck for
the first time and saying, and the windows cannot be shattered.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Boom, he shatters the window. So this article, we got
a couple of AI stories for you. This article in
the Wall Street Journal today about China's push to catch
up with and surpassity the United States is flipping troubling.
For instance, this paragraph the escalating AI race is drawing
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comparisons with the Cold War and the great scientific and
technological clashes that characterized it. It is likely to be
at least as consequential. The AI race between US and
China is going to be at least as consequent is
the Cold War between US and the Soviet Union, if
you're old enough to have lived through that, Holy crap.
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China realized that all the big a AI was going
to be the next big thing, maybe the next big
only thing on planet Earth, and it was way behind
Open AI, Google, all the American companies that were doing
so well, and then decided we got to do something.
And they've done a whole of nation effort to try
to catch up and poured a ton of money into
it and relaxed all kinds of regulations, which is highly
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troubling and even silenced concerns.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
You know, I was just hey, quit talking about safety
and what's best for humanity. We don't have time. I
mentioned My favorite quote in the article is from JD.
Vance and he argued this in February, the AI future
is not going to be won by hand ringing about safety.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, he's right, I understand what he's saying. What he's
wanting to say is China and Russia, mostly China, because
China's got the money to put into this. China's gonna
do whatever the hell they want. And if they beat
us to the punch on this, it ain't gonna make
any difference. That we tried to be ethical and safe
about it, it ain't gonna make any difference.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And I'm certainly the wrong guy to ask this question,
but I find myself wondering, can their AI essentially crush
our AI if it gets to you know, whatever critical
stage first, it can mess with our efforts and our
programs and databases and the rest of it to the
point that it blows ours up.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, it could be some sort of like on purpose
effort like that, But I take in a ton of
AI information reading and listening to podcasts with the smartest
people in the world talking about this. The more likely
concern is without any attempt whatsoever to ethically control it,
it just gets loose on its own and gets into
computers and travels around the world and just kind of
does its own thing. And then then the genie is
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out of.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
The bottle, which is pretty much inevitable. How do we
prevent that though? I mean, even if we're first, oh,
we can't, okay, never mind having your oregans harvested. I mean,
because even if we beat them to the punch by
five years. When they catch up five years later, unless
our AI can trump their Ai, they will unleash it.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And the hell you were speaking of, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
My big first of all, that paragraph about the Cold War,
I find just like bone chilling. I don't. I don't
feel like the population is taking this like the challenge
that it is. The way the Cold War was. I mean,
my dad grew up hiding underneath his desks in rural
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Iowa in case the Russians dropped the bomb, but it
was on their radar that we were in a you know,
fight to the death with a foe that was close
enough to where he to have to worry about it.
I don't feel like people feel that way about China
and Ai. The average person doesn't have any idea any
of this is happening. No, no, which is troubling. I think,
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my uh, I guess we're better off that way.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I mean, because if we spend all of our time
terrified of our if our AI overlords, that's no way
to live. Instead, you'll be going about your business. One
day you'll turn around, there's a robot beyond you. You'll think, wow,
that's weird. Then it'll suffer your head. I mean, it's
just like that, and you won't have suffered the fear.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Hard to imagine. No, ahead, But what are you gonna do? Yeah,
I suppose worrying about it and not much you can
do about it. I was gonna, says, as a guy
who cares about his money, I worry about the economy
and what's gonna happen and whether or not this is
all a bubble and it's going to completely collapse, and
it is chip companies trading money with AI companies back
and forth and investing each other, and it could bust
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and it doesn't turn out to be what they said.
But well that one of the other leads to or
that have got for today the right here. Yan Lukun
is Meta's chief AI scientist, the top guy working on
AI for Zuckerberg, who has spent tens of billions of dollars.
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I think he spent one hundred billion dollars on this project.
His lead scientist is leaving and starting his own company.
All of these people, including the Chinese, can't all be wrong,
can they? That it turns into a dot com bubble
where it's like, oh, I guess AI is not going
to be profitable or do anything.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So never mind, gosh, I wouldn't think so, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Think Elon and Zuckerberg and China and everybody else could
be wrong about this. So that's what leads me to
believe that this is going to be a thing unfolding
in front of our eyes at some point and then
looming behind us and severing our heads. So you say
that all the time, which is funny, But do you
do you have a real world sense of bad things
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that AI could do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It goes back to the commonly spoken theme of AI
decides the only thing impeding it is human beings or
the only thing impeding the planet being at peak health
is human beings.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I mean, those are the two classic why they would
sever our heads.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And then even if they don't do that, what if
it wipes out seventy five percent of jobs?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well right right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
And then political turmoil and revolution in the straits, et cetera,
et cetera while you're fighting robots. Great, oh yeah, no kidding, Wow.
So a couple more quick AI notes. I thought this
was really interesting. The Wall Street Journal reporting that Anthropic,
which is the company behind Claude, expects to break even
for the first time in twenty twenty eight. By contrast,
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Open AI the chat GPT folks plan, they're forecasting, they're
operating losses that year twenty twenty eight will be about
seventy four billion dollars. They will lose seventy four billion
dollars in twenty twenty eight, or roughly three quarters of revenue,
thanks to ballooning spending on computing costs. And they don't
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think they'll They're gonna burn through roughly fourteen times as
much cash as Anthropic before turning a profit in twenty thirty.
But certainly don't take my word for it. Through the
Wall Street Journal and invest carefully.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, and then you've got this story of Amazon that
never made any money and was losing money like crazy,
and I remember all the jokes about it never turned
to profit and everything like that, and obviously came to
dominate the landscape in so many different ways eventually.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And then I'm sorry, Michael's what did you say to us? Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Price pick yea just a second coming up in one
more AI note from a website I had never heard of,
sent to us by alert listener Hillbilly Savingcountry music dot
Com The headline is AI song's top Billboard chart. Why
we need transre and c now. All right, so I
just opened this up again. Thank you Hillbilly for sending
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this along. There's an alarmingly low sense of urgency. They
write about a rapidly developing dilemma that threatens to absolutely
eviscerate everything we know and love about music in a
matter of months. We're talking about AI, of course, but
it feels almost embarrassing and trite at this point even
bring it up in such a breathless context, in part
because we all have an inherent sense of how catastrophic
AI is going to be for the human creators and
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how inevitable its impacts ultimately are.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
You know?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hillbilly mentioned that the guy who wrote this is a
terrific writer, and he is. Wow, that's some some good
writing anyway, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't know?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But they there's the picture of AI generated artist breaking rust.
It's a little too perfect, country looking bearded guy in
a cowboy hat and right all.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Uh handsome, rugged yet sensitive?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yes, how'd you know? You must have seen this picture, Papa?
But do we expect Congress to address this existential crisis
facing human creators. They're saying we should do something about it,
attempt to install some guardrails and guideposts, and expend at
least a modicum of effort to at least make sure
the public is aware of weight, what is AI and
what is not.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, there's some effort by lots of people that you
have to declare something in AI creation. Do you think
that makes any difference? You dig in a song, Oh
it's AI, will never mind? Then I don't right, either
like it or I don't like it. Do you think
I'd like it more if it turns out it's a
human Maybe maybe I find out it's some thirty four
year old former drug addict was in jail. You know,
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I'm thinking of a what's the guy Jelly World type
of story or something like that that hooks you.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
M yeah, because the sentiment in the song seems much
more real. You've asked the key question. That's a super
interesting question. Will people still enjoy it? This guy's advocating
any piece of music made by AI or even partially
may AI, must be a clar to such to the
public period. So like, if you use AI to clean
up the bassline, I don't know, because your bass player's
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drunk or something.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't know, because evidently this breaking.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Rust song walk My Walk top the Billboard Country Digital
Song Sales Chart.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
An AI track was number one song in country.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm going to listen to that during the break.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Please didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We can't play it for copywriting reasons, but I'm going
to listen to it to the break. See what I think?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I read it into a weird world.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, yeah, I and everybody's guessing.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But the people with a lots of money, like the
richest people on earth, are guessing that it's going to
be a big deal and going to be profitable. I
don't know if there are any super wealthy people are saying, nah,
this is overhyped. I'll be in the woods if you
need me. Man, Well, good luck the AI robot. But
currently can't find a coke. We'll be able to find
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you in the wood to chop off your head for
whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
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Speaker 2 (14:07):
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So I uh for various reasons.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
My doctor hit me with a pregnozone prescription and it's
totally screwed up my sleep. Last night I was awake
for two solid hours, my mind just racing in the
middle of the night last night.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Hey damn, yeah, no doubt. Oh my gosh, Yeah, didn't
make your raven to see hungry. That's what I always
had with pregnant zone.
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No.
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Actually, my stomach's kind of upset right now.
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But anyway, So two things occupied my two hours of
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and like combed through and perfected the first class of
a college class in basic economics that focuses on how
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laws and regulations and prices cause people to change their
behavior Logical economics. I was going to call it, so
when you're trying to sleep, you couldn't sleep, So you
came up with a curriculum for a one hundred level
college class and economics that I will never teach. That's correct,
that's relaxing.
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The second thing I did when that was perfected was
I was working on the speech. You poor teachers, and
I'm thinking mostly of Californians, but in blue states everywhere,
and if your school district does this sort of stuff.
You poor teachers who are writing us emails this week saying, yeah,
we're in our mandatory DEI training right now. Guys, this
stuff is not dead. It is still here, and they're
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being humiliated and told that getting your work done on
time is white supremacy. Being diligent is white supremacy, and
all of that just utter garbage. And so I was
like writing a speech for you that you could stand
up and say, excuse me, I hate to interrupt this,
but this is racist garbage, and it's wasting all of
our time and worse, and here's why exactly, and then
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you would explain to them briefly that DEI does not
have anything to do with racial harmony or anything.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's a tool of capture, it's a tool of takeover.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
If you have three people up for the job of
boss and you can say one of those guys is
a racist, he will not get that authority, he will
not get that money, he will not get the good stuff.
And if you start calling everybody a racist who you
don't want to have power, and everybody's like afraid to
say that doesn't seem like racism to me, then you're
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in power DEI needs to end wherever it exists everywhere
in America today.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It has nothing to do with race.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
It is a Marxist technique to capture institutions.
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At seventy five. Both men and women.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Fall off a cliff at seventy five. It's a population level.
It's unmistakable what happens at the age of seventy five.
That's what we're up against. That's what I'm thinking about
in the practice, is how do I create an escape
velocity that gets somebody another fifteen years There.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Doctor Peter atya Atia, however he pronounce his name, was
on sixty Minutes on Sunday Night. He's very well known
for some of you because he's written some books that
have sold millions of millions copies about how to get
a little more enjoyment years out of your life.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Right, not just prolonging life, but prolonging quality years.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I immediately put my hand over my watch in my
wallet when anybody ever starts talking about health stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Because there's just a lot of.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, very few people ever want to come out
and just say, well, you got to eat less and
exercise more would be the main way to lose weight,
as opposed to I've got a new way that nobody's
ever thought of before.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You eat only things that match this paint chips.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's called beije eating only eat things that are beige,
the monochromatic diet. But this guy, I thought that was interesting.
Of course, your mileage may vary. It happens a little
earlier for some people, a little later like my dad
for some people, but in general, at seventy five you
just go off a cliff, and he wants to extend
that out a little further. Not your life span, but
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the years that you can actually do stuff and enjoy yourself. Right.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, I'll hold my takeaway from that segment back.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't want to steal anybody's thunder.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Here's Nora O'Donnell from sixty minutes talking to the doctor, and.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
So is your goal to minimize or essentially erase that
marginal decade.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
The marginal decade's not going anywhere. We will all have
a final decade of life. My goal is to make
the marginal decade as enjoyable as possible. The way I
explain it to my patients is that last ten to
fifteen of your years, if you don't do anything about it,
you will fall to a level of about fifty percent
of your time total capacity cognitively, physically.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And people hear that, you're like, I don't want to
be that.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
That's not how I want to spend the last decade
of my life.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
A lot of people respond that way as though they're
hearing this for the first time, although if you ask them,
haven't you seen people in this state, they'll say, well, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I have right, likely their own relatives, sure, their own parents.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Even well, I'm fairly functional on my best day, So
you know, fifty percent of that oof.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's getting down there? Yeah, hey, iikes. That is a
funny aspect of human beings that even though we most
of us experience it with family members or whatever, we
feel like it's not going to happen to us or something.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's yes, yeah, I don't. I don't have that old
guy attitude. I'm not going to be somewhat stooped over
and complain about arth right.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Or we're and this is a slightly different topic, but
not completely. I was talking to a guy last night
who's a friend of mine, and he's dealing with his
mom's final years and how they're going to deal with it,
and just that stat that I always think about, where
like ninety eight percent of people say they want to
die at home, ninety eight percent of people don't die
at home, right, and for a variety of reasons. But anyway,
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let's hear it a little more of this before we
discuss go on.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I think this is the neglected part of medical testing
is how fit are you?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How strong are you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
How well do you move and up overhead?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And in many ways these tests are even more predictive
of how long you're going to live than what I might.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Get out of your blood work.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
How do we know that?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
The data are pretty clear when you look at things
like cardio respiratory fitness, when you look at muscle mass,
when you look at strength, they have a much higher
association than things like even cholesterol and blood pressure.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
You think anyone, whether they're forty five or sixty five,
should be training like athletes, not for the Olympics, but
essentially for advanced age.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Absolutely, life is a sport of that idea.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I didn't hear anything that he said that contradicted things
that I've learned through the years about how to age well,
having to do with strength and flexibility and various measures.
The guy just struck me as a really high end,
extremely thorough personal trainer with a medical background.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I hear a lot of faux medical crap, and.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
That seemed to be just I mean, essentially, he's going
to turn you into an Olympic athlete. Some of the
exercise regimens and tests they were going to do in all,
how could they not help you live longer? It looked
like an enormous amount of work.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah. One of the reviews of one of his books,
his work has exploded in popularity amid the longevity boom,
but he stresses evidence over hype, urging people to train
seriously for vibrant old age rather than chasing quick fixes,
which was what I was talking about earlier. The crawl
like a dog exercise or what the lot new things?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, and I know a couple of people who fly
to like South American capitals to get various infusions. You
know people who do that, Yes, infusions of what one
guy in particular, I can't remember exactly how they blood
of a thirteen year old, blood of a ten year
own serum it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The plasma of the jaguar. I don't know exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You know people who fly to other countries, yes, to
get infusions.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The guy is super into the anti aging thing, like
you know less about doctor Atilla, who again struck me
as a lot more legit than ninety percent of what
I hear about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But yeah, he's super into it. He believes that. He's
a very smart guy.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
He's been very successful, although you know, one sort of
success doesn't necessarily translate.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
To good judgment in another way. But he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But if you got a lot of money, what are
you going to spend your money on that's better than
trying to have more enjoyable years of your life? And well,
you know, if there's a five percent chance that works,
if you got a lot of money, it makes more
sense to do that than with about cow Wich. We
were talking about early exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
You were talking about this four hundred and fifty six
thousand dollars chair and a what was the name of that? Again,
you can take the boy out of the working class,
but you can't take the work. And oh here it
is a Jeanreer type sofa for a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It makes sense to me completely that we are designed
to continue to work our minds and bodies, and then
as soon as we stop, they just decide, well, I guess,
guess we're done.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Right right?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I think it just it helps to remind yourself over
and over again. You are an animal. You are a
biological being, no different than beavers. Beavers don't have long,
happy retirements. Look at my teeth they where they said,
are those dentures beaver dentures?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
They look totally natural? Well, they don't. Look at you.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I brought down a sapling yesterday. Good man, you gotta
stay in Jape. No, but the invention of a I
have reproduced. I have raised my young I have functioned
as the village elder, and now I'm just I play
golf and I watched movies that doesn't exist in the
animal world. We invented that, right, So you got to
(25:22):
think about, all right, what is every other beast doing? Well,
it's alive, it stays active. You've got to stay active.
I believe that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I don't want to be annoying works out guy. So
I probably shouldn't say this very of a but I
go to the gym every single day, and I feel better.
I feel better now than I felt when I was forty.
I'm twenty years older than that. I am way more
in every way, feel better from exercising regularly. I hope
I can keep it up. I probably can't. Like I
(25:49):
said earlier, I'm doing it only out of vanity.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it can't hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
No, it can't hurt. I'm just worried about when, you know,
like I said, I finally get a mate, I'll just
I'll become a you know, Jim Schmim huh. Let's I
watched TV. That's all the way over on the other
side of living. I'm gonna immediately go from going to
the gym every day to watching TV eating bowls of pudding,
(26:15):
and the transition will be very seamless.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Riding around the grocery store on a rascal.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right exactly didn't I used to see you at the gym.
Maybe it all by way?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Wow, No, I'm predicting my future there. Your new bow
is going to sue you for fraud. Anyway. I thought
that was uh. I thought that was a damn interesting story.
Just the idea of looking at extending the enjoyable years
the whole your your body and mind drops off fifty
percent after seventy five.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And And in a similar vein the one medical story
that's caught my ear lately and really made an impression
is that study after study is coming act saying staying
physically active is good for your brain. Yeah, prevents Alzheimer's
and that sort of thing. It's just it's undeniable.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Jerry Seinfeld's big on that, he says that's why he
lifts weights is because all the studies that show how
what it does for your brain. So that's good too,
because my brain answer, I got it. I'm so damn lazy.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I gotta get it.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
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Speaker 3 (27:40):
We mentioned one stupid fitness craze he got a real
fitness craze that is just came across yesterday. It's been
around for a while, but I want to talk about
it more. Hick. I think it's Hicks the hick. I'll
find it to tell it's a it's an acronym. We'll
get to that coming up next segment.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, So a.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Couple of examples of DEI madness and just proof of
what Jack and I and James Lindsay and others I've
been saying for the longest time. The DEI thing, it's
a tool of takeover. It has nothing to do with
what it claims it is. Here are a couple examples.
This is just great stuff from the editors of the
National Review. They're talking about how academics try to have
(28:23):
it both ways. They claim to support diversity and robust
debate on campus right, but then they exclude any views
that challenge the left wing orthodoxy. And now an influential
academic publication is abandoning all pretense. The American Association of
University Professors, who in their very bylaws state that they
aim to champion academic freedom, advanced shared governance, and organize
(28:45):
all faculty.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
To promote education for the common Good.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Well, their magazine just published an article seven theses against
viewpoint diversity by this lady professor at Johns Hopkins.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Wow, just flat out coming out against viewpoint diversity.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And she's the president of her university's AAUP chapter, the
American Association of University Professors. She is at Johns Hopkins,
which is a prominent university, so she's a super heavyweight
among professors.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I like John's. I feel like Hopkins is a bit
much anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So there's been plenty of criticism of her article, But
in an attempt to defend the article, the AAUP responded
with a following quote, Fascism generally doesn't do great under
peer review, but perhaps it's the intellectual values of academia,
which emphasizes critical inquiry and challenges traditional norms that may
be inherently less appealing to those with a more conservative worldview.
(29:41):
In other words, academia skews way left because fascism doesn't
survive intellectual scrutiny. So they're saying anyone who isn't sufficiently
progressive and woke is a Nazi who needs to be
ejected from higher education. As the national If you guys, say,
could there be a more stark confirmation of the public's
(30:03):
perception of universities as ideological hubs unaware of their own internal,
you know, one sidedness.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
They use a lot of fancy words, but.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
It is absolutely stunning coming out and saying no, we
don't have intellectual diversity because anybody who doesn't agree with us.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Is a fascist. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I butted up against this fairly recently in a way
I don't want to get into. But the crowd that
actually equates the term conservative with something incredibly evil, Like
it's not a political philosophy that's always existed and always
will exist and needs to exist. That's intension with you know,
(30:46):
the other side, whatever you want to call it. It's
just it's flat out evil and should be given no
air whatsoever, which is nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
It is divorced from all reality, all wisdom. I would
never say that experience everything should be to the right
forever and never looked at in any other.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Way that I think that'd be. That makes you a
weird sort of person.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, it's an aspect of radical leftism and UH and
revolutionary movements in general. They are utterly intolerant of dissent.
I mean, that's kind of common.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
How do you ever come to how do you ever
come come to the conclusion, though maybe it's just a
way I'm built that you're right about everything, always right, always,
How do you get that way?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And the idea that I mean, the idea that there
is a Marxist professor who believes everything to the right
of Marxism is fascism. The fact that there's a professor
who believes that, I'd think.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
All right, you know, that's fine, takes all kinds.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
But the idea that there's nothing but that on American
universities or those who are not that are terrified to
even speak that, that's I mean, folks, that's a serious,
serious problem. And now they're just saying it openly, the
lead organization for professors saying, no, we don't want diversity
of opinion because you're fascists.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
On a much much lighter note, Real Clear Politics, with
an article out lately about how Biden's Secret Service was
so steeped in diversity, equity and inclusion DEI practices that
it could hardly function. Boy, did we see any examples
of that during Biden's reign. I don't know teenage or
(32:31):
twenty year old jackass near dwells getting clear shots at
the president for instance. Anyway, Real Clear Politics noted the
former Secret Service director Kimberly Cheadle had pushed an initiative
under Biden quote to make the federal government a DEI
model for the nation, so that lady who's going to
(32:52):
lead the Secret Service one the whole federal government to
be a model of DEI, which means more radical progressives.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's not diverse, the it's more progressives. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
She resigned from her post in July twenty four after
being unable or unwilling to answer questions from lawmakers on
how the agency failed to prevent the assassination attempt against Trump.
As he spoke in Butler, Pennsylvania, that we all remember
and keeping in mind, Real Clear Politics is a pretty
down the middle ish, typical slightly left journalism outfit. They
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offered further insight into the DEI push at the agency
during Biden's years, highlighting a reported overweight female agent who
was also a plus sized model and I read from
Real Clear Politics. Under Cheetle's leadership, DEI had become so
normalized that an overweight female agent who never passed her
physical fitness tests was not only retained on the staff,
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she was allowed to moonlight as a model. The agent
who was featured in a magazine profile traded on her
job in federal law enforcement and hinted at her Secret
Service position in a photoshoot labeled undercover but never underdressed god.
The female agent who bills herself as a nationally published
curve model, plus sized fashion and fitness influencer and body
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positivity advocate.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I feel like, even if she could do the physical
fitness stuff, that's not the sort of person you want
as a secret Service agent. Who's a model influencer type.
That just seems like a weird personality type to be
in the Secret Service.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
What other side hustles are allowed for secret Service agents?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah? Could you gi me a strip club DJ? Or
is there any limit to the sort of right?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Could you write like angry editorials for I don't know,
Breitbart or something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I don't know, I don't know anyway, here's a little more.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The gal, the big gall who never passed her test
at all, was assigned to protect Kamala Harris's stepdaughter LamaH
off in New York. After several failed attempts to pass
a physical fitness test, the agent was placed in the
Special Services Division, which had support functions for the agency,
including the maintenance of the armored vehicle fleet and the
screening of mail and packages for the White House Complex.
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According to four sources in the Secret Services community, you.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Know, there'd be so many people that want those jobs
in the Secret Service. There'd be so many candidates, And
you go ahead and let somebody who can't pass the
physical fitness test be on the team. I mean, that's
so weak, right next, right, you got two shots. Next, Sorry,
you can't do all the push ups or setups or
whatever you had to do.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Go back to being a nationally published curve model and
influencer and body positivity activist. And then they go into
several other scandals during the Biden years.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
But you get the idea. DEI is insidious.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It's a tool of Marxist takeover, and it devalues every
person of color, minority or woman or whatever who gets
a gig because they're suspected of being a DEI higher.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's awful.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
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