December 1, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Cyber Monday!
- Serving sizes
- No soap & The Trilemma
- Joe got pissed over the break
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jettie and Hey Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
American shoppers are looking forward to Cyber Monday after shattering
records on Black Friday. Adobe says consumers spent eleven point
eight billion dollars online on Friday. That's up more than
nine percent from last year. More than fifty five percent
of those sales came through mobile devices.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Okay, so let's jump into some of that stuff. We
have long mocked Black Friday and Cyber Monday as completely
made up things. Black Friday, going way way back, was
that's when businesses finally went into the black for the
first time for the year and it was never true,
and then built sales around it. Now, the idea of
(01:02):
contriving a day to try to boost commerce is not new.
See everything, Halloween, Christmas, not the Jesus' Birthday part, but
the Present's part. Just to everything, it's just to contrived,
you know, Mother's Day, Father's Day, they're all just they
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try to convince us to spend money on a particular day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, and even if.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
There was a legitimate creation, like I think Mother's Day
and Father's Day were efforts by nice people to pay
tribute to family ties.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But you know, two minutes later, it's like, hey.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Wait a minute, we could sell ties today, but so
Black Friday that there. So they often try to slice
it in such a way to come up with a
record to get people exciting, which is fine, And that
one it was online sales through mobile devices were up
more than they have been in the past. Okay, as
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often happens, for whatever reason, people do most of their
spending the first week in November, I mean, the first
week of December, or the last week of December, or
on Black Friday, or they decide whatever it just and
then it evens out throughout the spending season because most
people are gonna spend x amount, Right, whether you spend
(02:21):
it the day after Thanksgiving or two days before Christmas,
you're gonna spend roughly the same amount. So you gotta
wait till the total numbers come in to decide whether
or not it's been a good season in terms of retail.
And you're looking at consumer confidence and trying to figure
out the economy and all that sort of stuff. You
can't figure out from three days after after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But so, what was the origin of cyber Monday?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Joe, Well, Gladys, perhaps we can cast our minds back
to the early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
George W. Bush was the president, the War on Terror
was raging.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Good times anyway, everybody had crappy Internet connections at home,
and so retailers in those early days of this century.
Notice that you know our sales spike a little bit
the Monday after Thanksgiving. It's probably because people are using
their office internet connection to shop. And indeed, the term
cyber Monday was coined in two thousand and five by
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the National Retail Federation. The reality of everybody having a
super slow internet at home and good at work was
over within weeks of the coining of that term, and
it has been stupid ever since because people can shop
wherever they want, whenever they want with their little supercomputer
aka cell phone.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Right, you can be sitting at your kids high school
basketball game in the stands and shop just as easily.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
On your phone as you can at work or at home.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So I like the term mobile device as opposed to
what an immobile device? Am I using a mainframe in
the scenario, or what a computer console like NASA back
in the day. Now even my laptop is like an
inch bigger than my iPads.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I see cyber Monday is completely phony and silly.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
But if people offer sales on today because they think
they have your attention, I suggest you take them up.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
On the offer.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I see Hassett, that's which which advisor is he
to Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
On the economy, he's on Fox right now saying that
the Black Friday spending was up under Trump, so the
economy is good. That would defy the numbers we had
right before we went on vacation. That people in terms
of right track, wrong track, and all that sort of stuff.
We're setting records constantly, people thinking we're on the wrong
track and that their own personal financial situation is bad currently.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We'll see how the spending is throughout the whole holiday season.
Like I said, you gotta wait till the end to
get an idea whether it was up or down. I'm
not optimistic. Is expensive out there. As I just traveled
across the country, I was constantly shocked when we would
stop to eat order gas was the only thing because
I live in California.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Once you get out of California. The shocking news.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Is oh my god, this this is what other people
pay for gads. Yeah, but in terms of everything else,
it's just oh my god. And I always say to
the checkout person at the grocery store wherever, I'm a
holy cow, it's eighty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And they say, I know, isn't it amazing?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
For these years, that's thirty times a day. Yeah, yeah,
until we get used to that. I don't know what's
going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I do have a question about one news story.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Let me just say this very quickly, having talked to
several people from several different financial strata, there's much more
caution in the air than extravagance.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I mean, it's not even close.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So I would be shocked to hear that the holiday
numbers turned out to be especially great.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It would be it would be shocking.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It would run against all the polling of how people
feel about their current financial situations, right if it tends
to be a like, a really big number.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So we'll wait and see.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
There is one new story that happened while we were
on vacation that I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I doubt Joe paid any attention to it, so I
can't ask.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Him, but I'll bring it up right after we tell
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
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Speaker 2 (06:15):
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Speaker 5 (06:15):
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Speaker 4 (07:18):
I don't like to pay attention to a lot of
political stories when we're on the air, let alone when
we're on vacation. So that's not exactly something I was
digging into. But why did Marjorie Taylor Green resign? That
was surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Least blind bad built, buts body that was a surprise
to me.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, here's my assumption in k Well, first of all,
do you know anything about it?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't, No, I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Although a number of folks who who I no one love,
who are politically aware, were as mystified as you and
I were, and we're all speculating and wondering.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Nobody had a great theory.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
My main speculation would be, Oh, that reminds me of
some audio we need to get. My main speculation would be,
now that she's not aligned with Trump, and she's gonna
get a lot of you know, a hate from the
Trump crowd or whatever, she's like, I don't need this.
And she'd been offered various very lucrative positions on boards
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or whatnot that you get to do if you're a
high profile personality in politics. But I can make so
much more money, My life will be so much easier.
I'll be under the radar, nobody will know no or
care who I am. I'm gonna go do that. That'd
be my guest.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah, she's a bit of a whackadoodle, but I don't
think she was born for politics exactly. The theory in
the mainstream political analyst world is that she was gonna
either resign or well or leave office early and run
for governor of Georgia. And Trump and company had polls
that said she would just get shealacked, she would get embarrassed, humiliated,
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and they shared that with her, and she got crazy
but hurt about it and said, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm taking my.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Toys and going home. I don't know if I buy
that she's an odd duck.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But my main point remains that most of these people,
when they're you know, a run out of office and
embarrassed or worth, they go off to a job that
pays way better and their life is much easier.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, agreed. Hey, just asn't a side Michael,
play that clip you just played before just seconds.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ago, police blind, bad built bush body.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's Texas's own Jasmine Crockett, who is a crock herself
and a con woman and a liar and a fraud.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I had forgotten.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I was reminded recently that she invented this whole giant
Jesse Smolette thing where she got into she became a
lawyer because she was a victim of a hate crime.
Then it turns out it was completely fictional. Oh really,
she's changed your story since Yeah, she's one.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Of those people.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Just oh, she is such a fraud and every says
that's right, Margie with the last word there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
She is a great example of the modern social media
driven instagrammer who dabbles as a congress person.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So Donald Trump told the leader of Venezuela, you got
to get out now with your family.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Are you're gonna be killed?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And didn't he said now, didn't put a time limit
on it. And now he got even more troops and
more boats close to the coast there. So what's going
to happen there?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
We ought to take a look at that at some point.
That whole story, that's spicy. I'd say peace negotiations between
Russia and Ukraine. Russia bombed to the hell out of
Ukraine last night. To me, that's a here's what you
can do with your peace dick negotiations that you know,
middle finger to that, right. I don't know how else
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you read that. I definitely have to talk about being
at the airport and sitting on planes on the tarmac
for an hour, each plane sitting there for an hour.
We need to do something about flying. It's a mess.
It's they're punishing us, they're being mean to us. They're
holding us hostage, is what they're doing. I was having
my little fantasy of calling a police and saying I'm
being held hostage against my will.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because I am I am being.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Held hostage against my will for an hour. An hour
is a long time to sit on the tarmac. Well,
you got no case legally speaking. But you could go
on the internet and get a hell of a GoFundMe
going right, and then testified before Congress.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Right right?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
A brand come off on Instagram or something. I don't know,
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Speaker 3 (11:54):
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Speaker 6 (11:56):
Doctors are warning people to moderate their food intake and
the weeks to avoid so called holiday hearts syndrome, which
is an irregular heart rhythm caused by poor nutrition, and
it's especially bad for Americans around the holidays of Thanksgiving, Christmas,
New Year's President Day, Eastern Mother's Day, Father's Day, the
fourth of July, Arbor Day, Labor Day, and Tuesday through Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's a decent point right there. We got a lot
of various eating holidays that we enjoy, reasons to overeat,
get together, et cetera. I had a conversation with my
family when we are out at one place about portions,
all wondering why they bring you three times as much
food as you need to eat or even want to eat,
and is.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That necessary to keep customers?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Does that really work on some sort of cycle logical
level that I don't get. Would I ever if you
brought me the appropriate amount of food? But I think, well,
I'm not eating here again, the portions aren't humanious.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Would I actually think that?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I don't think I would, But I'm sure there's somebody
in the restaurant industry who knows the answer to that question.
I have a feeling that you know, if I'm going
to prepare you a hamburger or normal sized hamburger and
normal sized serving of fries that costs me x, I
can add a like a third bigger burger and half
again more fries for practically nothing, because so much of
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it is overhead and labor, not materials, and so you
create the perception of value by you know, instead of
for you know, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You get a reasonable portion, you get.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
An unreasonable portion, and it's fine me as the restaurant
rit It's almost.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Got to be subconscious though, because there's no way the
ship sailed decades ago on the am I getting value
for my money at the restaurant, I think because everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Feels like you can't weigh more than you can eat. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I don't know the common man, Jack, not intellectual giants
like yourself, but the common man.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't believe there are very many people that think, wow,
this burger the size of my head and five pounds
of French fries is not an off. But I do
think you're probably right. The cost for giving you that
large amount is almost nothing, especially like my names. We
were all joking about these pancakes. We went to this
pancake place and these pancakes that were like the size
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of a manimal cover, and there were two of them, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Who's that for the whole table? They were like an
eight of us.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We could have all eaten some of her pancakes, but
that cost literally two cents.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
To my point, Hey, the greatest haack I've come into
is you, as the waitress, bring the food immediately, say
can I get it to go container right now?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah? And then then you cut it in a half,
load it up.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And then we got into the discussion of what percentage
of food you take home from a restaurant ever gets eaten?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
All right, fairly low?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, Well, we all do it because we feel better
about it. I'll take this home, That's what I'll do,
and then forget it or or take it back to It's.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Better than jamming it down your gullets. Yeah, you just
gotta leave it there. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
We're all designed to not waste the food, and it's
hard to just leave it sitting there.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know I paid for it. Well, am I just
gonna leave all that food sitting there?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I don't need to eat it, And.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Your caveman anthropological soul says I might not eat for
another week if the herd.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Grows in the other direction. Huh, so I gotta eat? Well?
They eating's good? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I think that would benefit everybody if our portions were smaller.
But I don't know what percentage of people would be
on board with that. Bring me like that excize hamburger
that I make at home, but at home, I don't
make a hamburger that this figure around this tall.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
There's also the reality that young people, particularly young men,
will hammer down a gigantic hamburger, for instance, and a
gigantic servant serving a fries, so they might respond to,
you know, giant portions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know if I like a lot sure, there's
research on us. I think about this a lot if
I won the lottery.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
There's lots of different businesses I would try, just because
I have questions about lots of these different things.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Try meaning like try to get one up and going
yeah and see if it would work.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And one of them would be we're gonna serve you
like normal portions of what people should eat, and it'll
be a little less expensive, but we won't bring you
eight pounds of fries just so you can throw them
away or we throw them away or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
See if that works.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
You live in an area that has like sun city
type developments around it, or a lot of retirees or
what have you, You see that on the lighter side
is a section of the menu.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Hmmm, that's right.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's what I need to look at all the time,
and I always forget to because at the moment when
I'm ordering, I think I need a five pound chicken
fried steak, right.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Because your inner grizzly bear is still alive and well,
but you're an old.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Guy, come on, and that's why I'm I gained three
and a quarter pounds over the holiday season one week, again,
three and a quarter pounds. If I could keep this
up the rest of the month, I'll I'll be a
look pretty large again.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I was up three point six pounds a day or two.
I think that's good enough. I mean, all you have
to do is put that peg up there. And if
I lost the couple of pounds deliberately and a couple
of days after that, I'm still the winner.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I know you've got some financial stuff, economy stuff for us.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think that's good.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Trilemma, Jack, have you heard about the trilemma?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think that's gonna be something that a lot of
people are looking at during this month because there are
some pretty negative economic numbers that came out right before Thanksgiving.
When we were on the air, People's attitudes are sour
about their personal financial situation, about the country's financial situation,
and whether or not that shows itself to be true
during this big shopping season is going to be a
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big news.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think, yeah, I would agree. I agree with what
you said earlier that I think people are leaning more
toward a little scared, like this is all gonna blow
up soon ish as opposed to optimistic.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'll tell you who should be scared, whoever gets elected
president next I will explain.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Oh wow, well, Gavin Newsom, all right, oh please, So
stay tuned for that if you missed a segment at
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm watching the ratings.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
People are consuming less news right now because they can't
handle it. But what matters at this point is that
we're losing the ability to talk to each other, losing civility,
we're losing respect, and the public is looking this insane.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
To hell with all of it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't want to hear you yelling at each other.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Interesting. That sounded like Frank once it was.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Indeed, Frank LUN's talking about why people don't watch the
news as much as.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They used to.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Although the youngsters are getting their news quote unquote on TikTok,
which means they're getting Chinese propaganda and little else.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Interesting, and that's something we both were contemplating during the
time off and coming back. How much of the so
called news is actually just unimportant age baiting a lot
of it and intentional controversy making for the clicks and
for the fundraising and for.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
A very small percentage of society who's paying attention to it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, that's the thing I mean in talk radio, there
are a lot of people who make a hell of
a lot of money in the podcast world through doing that.
There's a lot of money to be made. We just
prefer not to. I think it's bad for your soul
or on that to confer not to make money. That's
an interesting No, I think you missed my point. Ah,
So I read about the trying break at the trim alone.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I just want to tell Michael because I know he's
keeping track.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Also, Yeah, we're now it's six straight weeks of no
soap in the men's bathroom in the main stall.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Michael, I don't know if you're keeping track.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I will bring soap in six You got to scratch
a hashmark in the wall like it's a prison.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I feel like the main I'm talking the big stall
where people do their main business.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You gotta have soap there. There's been no soap for
at least a month and a half. It seems like
a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is not dignified. I'm bringing soap in bar up soap.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, okay, so here's a question. I can tell you
it's absolute certainty. There was no soap in there, like
the last week of September. Was it refilled at any
point between then and now?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't think so. It's okay, all right, So there
you go months anyway? That awful?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What does the building management do? Exactly? Let's just start here.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What do you see as your jobs? Boy? So the trilemma,
here's what it is.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
And I got this from a story that was called
is America headed for a debt crisis? Look abroad for answers,
and they highlight the pathetic and floundering British and French
are valued allies since w W two days and they're
talking about the obvious situation where they have mounting debt problems.
(20:58):
But here's your trilemma. If you have too much debt.
The bond market hates it. What do we care, you
say to yourself, Well, that's how the US finances so
much of it's spending right now is we borrow money,
we sell bonds. And because it's the most safe bet
on the planet that the United States of America will
pay its debts, it's an extremely popular investment. The problem is,
(21:24):
as that great confidence in our debt service gets shakier,
the eels rise, the rates rise, the amount of interest
we must pay rises. So it matters from a budgetary
and tax point of view whether the bond market thinks, oh,
it's perfectly safe, or whether they're starting to think.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Man, they're running up a lot of debt.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And then the second leg of the trilemma is the
is the budget itself. I mean, you can't just spend
yourself into oblivion, so you have to be willing to
make cuts at some point or raised taxes. The third
leg of the trilemma is the voters. And again they
(22:07):
highlight voters in Britain, especially well France too, who have
said essentially no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
No no, we want enormous welfare services and low taxes,
which is absolutely idiotically unsustainable.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Elon spoke to that a little bit during the break.
He was on some podcasts talking about AI and robots
and stuff, but he was asked about the whole doge
thing and everything like that, and he said, basically, I'm
out of the whole trying to fix the country game.
He said, it can't be done, at least not in
our current political climate. People just don't want to deal
with reality. And he's a hand percent right. I can
(22:50):
see how he waited into that and thought, Wow, people
are just going to pretend this isn't a problem, or
that you can get out of this situation without cutting
programs right things wishing.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Or magic beans or something like that. And I'm sorry
I misstated the second leg of the trilemma, that is
the economy. If you raise taxes to a confiscatory rate
too high, you get a crush economic growth. As California,
the high tax is the most hostile environment to businesses.
Year after year after year, businesses are fleeing. If it
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weren't for AI, Gavin Newsom would be in stocks getting
pelted with rotten tomatoes right now anyway. So you've got
the pressure of the bond market, the economy and the voter,
and the voter is in to a large degree the.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Key legacy, and the voter is the most the only
part you can really hope to have any effect on
the other two with.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Right, then we get bailed out, the United States get built,
gets bailed out because people need dollars around the world
to trade with. That is the the great trade currency
of the world. That's not sustainable forever for a variety
of reasons that I won't get into because it's long
and it's boring and I only half understand it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
But our.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The dollar status is that must have global asset is declining.
All right, Here's why I said the most frightened person
in the world ought to be the next president of
the United States. According to the re re rejiggered numbers,
the Social Security Trust Fund will be broke in twenty
thirty three. You remember when that year seemed really, really distant. Well,
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the guy or Gallo wins in twenty twenty eight is
going to be in office, you know, barring some extraordinary
turn of events, until until twenty thirty two. And if
the trust me if Social Security is going broke in
twenty thirty three, that discussion is going to dominate that term.
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And so between Congress and that poor son of a
gun or daughter of a gun who's going to be president,
they are going to have to make the utterly gut
wrenching decisions to save social security or benefits are going
to be cut across the board. And man, you want
to talk about a political blood path and a reckoning
with reality if we still have it in us, that's
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gonna be it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Hmm, I'll be fun to watch. Oh boy, Elon is right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
The current political climate, that's a problem that they got
in France in Britain is people just don't want to
deal with reality. They It's amazing. I just I can't
believe that the majority of people can't be convinced. Look,
this is unsustainable and we got to do things different.
All right, who's on board. Let's roll up our sleeves
and get no, we're going to keep demanding a dollar
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Speaker 5 (25:49):
Okay, it's worth repeating the founding pop as. The last
thing they wanted was a democracy. They wanted a democratic republic, obviously,
and that's you can use the term democracy accurately enough
to describe that. But they knew a a lot of
common people are too dumb or unwise to understand that
the person telling them no, we can have low taxes
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and high spending forever is a liar and a panderer
and is just telling you that because they want to
have power to figure out where all that money flows,
and a lot of people just don't get that. They
also understood that mobs tend to get in moods and
then do really really stupid stuff. But yeah, I think
it's all gonna come down in the next term, next
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Speaker 4 (27:48):
We got yet another word of the Year from a
different organization. Oxford University Press has named They're Worthy to
Year for twenty twenty five. I don't know if it's
a word of a year. Pretty good word.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Though, rage bait.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Rage Bait's pretty good words kind of fits with what
we were just talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Perfect lead into the article I came across on vacation
I unwisely opened.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was intrigued.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I was hooked by the click baity headline, and it
pissed me off in the midst of.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The holiday cheer. I will explain in moments, and you
believe it was rage bait.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
And partly and also partly just a great distillation of
what's wrong with social media in the Internet.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's the perfect example.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
So just to define rage bait, would it be like
if you if you got a headline that you know,
transboy dominates girls, track and field, they just know, Oh,
you're gonna hate the reading about this.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, that's sure. That's an example.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, or anything including the word the name Trump for
years and years and years in lefty media, Trump's latest outrage,
that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Wait, will you see this? You thought it was bad before? Yeah,
rage bait? Okay, what Joe mentioned. Oh and a congress
person over the break gave quite a speech about how
they all get rich. It was fantastic. I look forward
to getting to in hour three, I hope you can
stick around. As I was getting my coffee, I was
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reminded that the long tradition of my brother's giving me
crap for putting cream in my coffee continued while I
was around everybody for the holiday, as my brother if
he could pass the cream, and he said, do you
need some high heels with that? Also, yes, that sort
of thing appropriate. Everybody looks down on me for putting
cream in my coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh well, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Interestingly, my youngest, my daughter, she needs to put cream
in her coffee as a woman when she uses the
Kurrig machine, but not my espresso machine.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Oh really, because yeah, I put in there because otherwise
just eats a hole in my stomach.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, which, you know you don't want a hole in
your stuff. So there.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I was in a lovely mood, surrounded by family over
the holiday week. My all three of our kids, both
of my siblings, my dad, my brother's family were all
in town for Thanksgiving week, partly because, as I mentioned earlier,
my dad's eighty fifth birthday was Thanksgiving Day, and we
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celebrated lavishly and also played eighteen holes of golf at
age eighty five, My brother and my dad and I played.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It was absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, I mean, he's obviously not the player that he
used to be in all and gets annoyed about it.
Evidently that continues till the end of your life. Golf
is really annoying.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
But it was eighty five. You're like, how could I
hit that shot? Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah exactly. I'm like, Dad, this is incredible. It
is a blessing. He's like, I just keep shoving it
to the right. What the hell's going on here? Am
I wind up wrong?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who cares? That's hilarious?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know it's something, isn't it so? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But here there, I wasn't just such a lovely frame
of mind, ignoring the news more or less.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And I so come to I don't know why, to
the temptation.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I think it was Satan himself who said, take a
look at.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The New York Post. Why don't you see what they're
ragan about? Why didn't you see if there's something that
you want to click on?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Here?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Boy? And so I opened the New York Post app
for some reason.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
There's this article Aaron Andrews fires back at sports personalities
after holiday comments backlash.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And I violated a sacred rule.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Any journalism about internet arguments is not journalism.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's crap.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I wish everybody I wish the president would give an
Oval office address about this. Any news story built around
a couple of comments on social media, those people should
be drummed out of journalism.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Right, But it was the spirit of it that pissed
me off so much so. Aaron Andrews, the longtime female reporter,
sideline reporter et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Does very good job.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
She was doing a podcast that I'm not familiar with.
She was the guest and they were talking to her
about her career and they asked her, and this isn't
made clear at the beginning of the article, I think
to draw you into the rage bait, they asked her
for young girls or or young women who are thinking
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to get thinking about getting into your line of work,
what are some of the things they don't know about it?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Some of the downsides? And one of the things she said.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Was, well, you miss a lot of holidays that you'd
like to be home with your family, but you're on
the road and you're doing your job.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, simple as that. Well you got this.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Jenna Lane, who's a reporter covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
for ESPN, ways in saying saw Aaron Andrews remarks about
the challenges in this business above starting at a low
age and not having holidays. I appreciate what she's trying
to say, but let's consider the folks working two to
three jobs in retail, in warehouses, and in the service
industry right now, just trying to make ends meet. They're
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not getting time with their families either. Oh my god,
your life would be a dream for them. I mean,
let's keep this in perspective. Let's have some perspective.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And then you got hack loser Trey Wingo, former NFL
host back in the nineties at ESPN. That's literally what
they pay you for, he posted on X because You've
got to be angry, including a headline about her remarks.
Aaron said it herself once, they pay you for the
traveling sacrifices, because doing the games is the fun part.
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And these people just what bothers me the most about
it is how obvious it is that they're just saying,
look at me, look at me, I'm morally superior to
Aaron Andrews. What about the poor working people? I got
a question for you, halfwits. If Aaron Andrews was in
a car wreck and broke her leg in two places
and the pain was horrible. Can she say the pain
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is horrible? Or would you say, how about a little perspective?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are Yeah, how about a single mom who has to
work the night jift to Denny's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
She knows what pain is.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
If her like broken two places, she'd be having pain
and she's gotta go work at denny.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So want's to have a little perspective, Jennal? Or what's
your erin?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Oh my god, you people are perth pathetic. Boy, God,
your need to be morally superior to somebody is so
bad you actually go with a criticism that bad. She's
telling little girls, Look, you're gonna be away a lot.
You've got to travel, You're gonna miss your family.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Oh about a little perspective.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Oh god, that just pissed me off, and I thought,
what are you doing? Look you get the internet, you idiot,
Go deal with the people in your life who are
actually there, which reminded me of one of my you know,
my vows that I have to renew every now and again.
I hate the expression touch grass because it's gotten such
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it's such a cliche. But make your life your life.
The people you actually see and talk to and deal
with interact with, do business with, play sports with, not
everybody online, that's not your life.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I saw somebody write eloquently about this sort of news
story where they grab two comments, often not even you know,
well known people like in your case, just random comment
ers on social media, and they build a story around
it that needs to be outlawed. And I'm a free
speech guy that needs to be outlawed. But too many
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people fall forward. And sometimes I'll click on a story
and then I'll get halfway through it and think, wait
a second, is the only thing to this story is
Jim and Omaha said something mean on Twitter about this thing.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's it. That's the whole story that ed in Miami
had said, fright right, God, that's the worst journalism out there.
We need to do better.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
As a completology Controls waded in and said sarcastic things.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
The Internet did not like this person's version of the
national anthem, and they'll pick two random cults from people
and build a story around it. We got to stop
doing that. It's the consumer that drives it. Though you
read it, they know how much time you spent on
the article. They got the algorithm.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Uh so to two final points about this. Number one,
I'm a little surprised that Aaron Andrews dignified that jackass
a couple of comments with responses, but she also took
aim at NFL News aggregator Dove Climan, who I've never
heard of in my life, whose headline was Andrews.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Under heavy fire for her holiday's remarks under heavy from
losers online? Who cares? Oh, my lord is to break
out of this?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I don't know if there is no I was just
gonna say, can you get a shot or something that
it's well, it's like the we GOVI is in the
other weight loss drugs where you look at food and
thinking nah, I don't need that. I need a shot,
where I see a headline like that and think, eh,
that's stupid. Just pass it.
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American shoppers are looking forward to Cyber Monday after shattering
records on Black Friday. Adobe says consumers spent eleven point
eight billion dollars online on Friday. That's up more than
nine percent from last year. More than fifty five percent
of those sales came through mobile devices.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Okay, so let's jump into some of that stuff. We
have long mocked Black Friday and Cyber Monday as completely
made up things. Black Friday, going way way back, was
that's when businesses finally went into the black for the
first time for the year and it was never true,
and then built sales around it. Now, the idea of
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contriving a day to try to boost commerce is not new.
See everything, Halloween, Christmas, not the Jesus' Birthday part, but
the Present's part. Just to everything, it's just to contrived,
you know, Mother's Day, Father's Day, they're all just they
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try to convince us to spend money on a particular day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, and even if.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
There was a legitimate creation, like I think Mother's Day
and Father's Day were efforts by nice people to pay
tribute to family ties.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But you know, two minutes later, it's like, hey.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Wait a minute, we could sell ties today, but so
Black Friday that there. So they often try to slice
it in such a way to come up with a
record to get people exciting, which is fine, And that
one it was online sales through mobile devices were up
more than they have been in the past. Okay, as
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often happens, for whatever reason, people do most of their
spending the first week in November, I mean, the first
week of December, or the last week of December, or
on Black Friday, or they decide whatever it just and
then it evens out throughout the spending season because most
people are gonna spend x amount, Right, whether you spend
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it the day after Thanksgiving or two days before Christmas,
you're gonna spend roughly the same amount. So you gotta
wait till the total numbers come in to decide whether
or not it's been a good season in terms of retail.
And you're looking at consumer confidence and trying to figure
out the economy and all that sort of stuff. You
can't figure out from three days after after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But so, what was the origin of cyber Monday?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Joe, Well, Gladys, perhaps we can cast our minds back
to the early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
George W. Bush was the president, the War on Terror
was raging.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Good times anyway, everybody had crappy Internet connections at home,
and so retailers in those early days of this century.
Notice that you know our sales spike a little bit
the Monday after Thanksgiving. It's probably because people are using
their office internet connection to shop. And indeed, the term
cyber Monday was coined in two thousand and five by
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the National Retail Federation. The reality of everybody having a
super slow internet at home and good at work was
over within weeks of the coining of that term, and
it has been stupid ever since because people can shop
wherever they want, whenever they want with their little supercomputer
aka cell phone.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Right, you can be sitting at your kids high school
basketball game in the stands and shop just as easily.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
On your phone as you can at work or at home.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So I like the term mobile device as opposed to
what an immobile device? Am I using a mainframe in
the scenario, or what a computer console like NASA back
in the day. Now even my laptop is like an
inch bigger than my iPads.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I see cyber Monday is completely phony and silly.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
But if people offer sales on today because they think
they have your attention, I suggest you take them up.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
On the offer.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I see Hassett, that's which which advisor is he
to Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
On the economy, he's on Fox right now saying that
the Black Friday spending was up under Trump, so the
economy is good. That would defy the numbers we had
right before we went on vacation. That people in terms
of right track, wrong track, and all that sort of stuff.
We're setting records constantly, people thinking we're on the wrong
track and that their own personal financial situation is bad currently.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We'll see how the spending is throughout the whole holiday season.
Like I said, you gotta wait till the end to
get an idea whether it was up or down. I'm
not optimistic. Is expensive out there. As I just traveled
across the country, I was constantly shocked when we would
stop to eat order gas was the only thing because
I live in California.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Once you get out of California. The shocking news.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Is oh my god, this this is what other people
pay for gads. Yeah, but in terms of everything else,
it's just oh my god. And I always say to
the checkout person at the grocery store wherever, I'm a
holy cow, it's eighty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And they say, I know, isn't it amazing?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
For these years, that's thirty times a day. Yeah, yeah,
until we get used to that. I don't know what's
going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I do have a question about one news story.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Let me just say this very quickly, having talked to
several people from several different financial strata, there's much more
caution in the air than extravagance.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I mean, it's not even close.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So I would be shocked to hear that the holiday
numbers turned out to be especially great.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It would be it would be shocking.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It would run against all the polling of how people
feel about their current financial situations, right if it tends
to be a like, a really big number.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So we'll wait and see.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
There is one new story that happened while we were
on vacation that I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I doubt Joe paid any attention to it, so I
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Speaker 4 (07:18):
I don't like to pay attention to a lot of
political stories when we're on the air, let alone when
we're on vacation. So that's not exactly something I was
digging into. But why did Marjorie Taylor Green resign? That
was surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Least blind bad built, buts body that was a surprise
to me.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, here's my assumption in k Well, first of all,
do you know anything about it?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't, No, I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Although a number of folks who who I no one love,
who are politically aware, were as mystified as you and
I were, and we're all speculating and wondering.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Nobody had a great theory.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
My main speculation would be, Oh, that reminds me of
some audio we need to get. My main speculation would be,
now that she's not aligned with Trump, and she's gonna
get a lot of you know, a hate from the
Trump crowd or whatever, she's like, I don't need this.
And she'd been offered various very lucrative positions on boards
(08:16):
or whatnot that you get to do if you're a
high profile personality in politics. But I can make so
much more money, My life will be so much easier.
I'll be under the radar, nobody will know no or
care who I am. I'm gonna go do that. That'd
be my guest.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah, she's a bit of a whackadoodle, but I don't
think she was born for politics exactly. The theory in
the mainstream political analyst world is that she was gonna
either resign or well or leave office early and run
for governor of Georgia. And Trump and company had polls
that said she would just get shealacked, she would get embarrassed, humiliated,
(08:53):
and they shared that with her, and she got crazy
but hurt about it and said, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm taking my.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Toys and going home. I don't know if I buy
that she's an odd duck.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But my main point remains that most of these people,
when they're you know, a run out of office and
embarrassed or worth, they go off to a job that
pays way better and their life is much easier.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, agreed. Hey, just asn't a side Michael,
play that clip you just played before just seconds.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ago, police blind, bad built bush body.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's Texas's own Jasmine Crockett, who is a crock herself
and a con woman and a liar and a fraud.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I had forgotten.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I was reminded recently that she invented this whole giant
Jesse Smolette thing where she got into she became a
lawyer because she was a victim of a hate crime.
Then it turns out it was completely fictional. Oh really,
she's changed your story since Yeah, she's one.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Of those people.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Just oh, she is such a fraud and every says
that's right, Margie with the last word there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
She is a great example of the modern social media
driven instagrammer who dabbles as a congress person.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So Donald Trump told the leader of Venezuela, you got
to get out now with your family.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Are you're gonna be killed?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And didn't he said now, didn't put a time limit
on it. And now he got even more troops and
more boats close to the coast there. So what's going
to happen there?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
We ought to take a look at that at some point.
That whole story, that's spicy. I'd say peace negotiations between
Russia and Ukraine. Russia bombed to the hell out of
Ukraine last night. To me, that's a here's what you
can do with your peace dick negotiations that you know,
middle finger to that, right. I don't know how else
(10:44):
you read that. I definitely have to talk about being
at the airport and sitting on planes on the tarmac
for an hour, each plane sitting there for an hour.
We need to do something about flying. It's a mess.
It's they're punishing us, they're being mean to us. They're
holding us hostage, is what they're doing. I was having
my little fantasy of calling a police and saying I'm
being held hostage against my will.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because I am I am being.
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Held hostage against my will for an hour. An hour
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Doctors are warning people to moderate their food intake and
the weeks to avoid so called holiday hearts syndrome, which
is an irregular heart rhythm caused by poor nutrition, and
it's especially bad for Americans around the holidays of Thanksgiving, Christmas,
New Year's President Day, Eastern Mother's Day, Father's Day, the
fourth of July, Arbor Day, Labor Day, and Tuesday through Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's a decent point right there. We got a lot
of various eating holidays that we enjoy, reasons to overeat,
get together, et cetera. I had a conversation with my
family when we are out at one place about portions,
all wondering why they bring you three times as much
food as you need to eat or even want to eat,
and is.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That necessary to keep customers?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Does that really work on some sort of cycle logical
level that I don't get. Would I ever if you
brought me the appropriate amount of food? But I think, well,
I'm not eating here again, the portions aren't humanious.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Would I actually think that?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I don't think I would, But I'm sure there's somebody
in the restaurant industry who knows the answer to that question.
I have a feeling that you know, if I'm going
to prepare you a hamburger or normal sized hamburger and
normal sized serving of fries that costs me x, I
can add a like a third bigger burger and half
again more fries for practically nothing, because so much of
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it is overhead and labor, not materials, and so you
create the perception of value by you know, instead of
for you know, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You get a reasonable portion, you get.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
An unreasonable portion, and it's fine me as the restaurant
rit It's almost.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Got to be subconscious though, because there's no way the
ship sailed decades ago on the am I getting value
for my money at the restaurant, I think because everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Feels like you can't weigh more than you can eat. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I don't know the common man, Jack, not intellectual giants
like yourself, but the common man.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't believe there are very many people that think, wow,
this burger the size of my head and five pounds
of French fries is not an off. But I do
think you're probably right. The cost for giving you that
large amount is almost nothing, especially like my names. We
were all joking about these pancakes. We went to this
pancake place and these pancakes that were like the size
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of a manimal cover, and there were two of them, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Who's that for the whole table? They were like an
eight of us.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We could have all eaten some of her pancakes, but
that cost literally two cents.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
To my point, Hey, the greatest haack I've come into
is you, as the waitress, bring the food immediately, say
can I get it to go container right now?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah? And then then you cut it in a half,
load it up.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And then we got into the discussion of what percentage
of food you take home from a restaurant ever gets eaten?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
All right, fairly low?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, Well, we all do it because we feel better
about it. I'll take this home, That's what I'll do,
and then forget it or or take it back to It's.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Better than jamming it down your gullets. Yeah, you just
gotta leave it there. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
We're all designed to not waste the food, and it's
hard to just leave it sitting there.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know I paid for it. Well, am I just
gonna leave all that food sitting there?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I don't need to eat it, And.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Your caveman anthropological soul says I might not eat for
another week if the herd.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Grows in the other direction. Huh, so I gotta eat? Well?
They eating's good? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I think that would benefit everybody if our portions were smaller.
But I don't know what percentage of people would be
on board with that. Bring me like that excize hamburger
that I make at home, but at home, I don't
make a hamburger that this figure around this tall.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
There's also the reality that young people, particularly young men,
will hammer down a gigantic hamburger, for instance, and a
gigantic servant serving a fries, so they might respond to,
you know, giant portions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know if I like a lot sure, there's
research on us. I think about this a lot if
I won the lottery.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
There's lots of different businesses I would try, just because
I have questions about lots of these different things.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Try meaning like try to get one up and going
yeah and see if it would work.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And one of them would be we're gonna serve you
like normal portions of what people should eat, and it'll
be a little less expensive, but we won't bring you
eight pounds of fries just so you can throw them
away or we throw them away or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
See if that works.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
You live in an area that has like sun city
type developments around it, or a lot of retirees or
what have you, You see that on the lighter side
is a section of the menu.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Hmmm, that's right.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's what I need to look at all the time,
and I always forget to because at the moment when
I'm ordering, I think I need a five pound chicken
fried steak, right.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Because your inner grizzly bear is still alive and well,
but you're an old.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Guy, come on, and that's why I'm I gained three
and a quarter pounds over the holiday season one week, again,
three and a quarter pounds. If I could keep this
up the rest of the month, I'll I'll be a
look pretty large again.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I was up three point six pounds a day or two.
I think that's good enough. I mean, all you have
to do is put that peg up there. And if
I lost the couple of pounds deliberately and a couple
of days after that, I'm still the winner.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I know you've got some financial stuff, economy stuff for us.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think that's good.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Trilemma, Jack, have you heard about the trilemma?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think that's gonna be something that a lot of
people are looking at during this month because there are
some pretty negative economic numbers that came out right before Thanksgiving.
When we were on the air, People's attitudes are sour
about their personal financial situation, about the country's financial situation,
and whether or not that shows itself to be true
during this big shopping season is going to be a
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big news.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think, yeah, I would agree. I agree with what
you said earlier that I think people are leaning more
toward a little scared, like this is all gonna blow
up soon ish as opposed to optimistic.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'll tell you who should be scared, whoever gets elected
president next I will explain.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Oh wow, well, Gavin Newsom, all right, oh please, So
stay tuned for that if you missed a segment at
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm watching the ratings.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
People are consuming less news right now because they can't
handle it. But what matters at this point is that
we're losing the ability to talk to each other, losing civility,
we're losing respect, and the public is looking this insane.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
To hell with all of it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't want to hear you yelling at each other.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Interesting. That sounded like Frank once it was.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Indeed, Frank LUN's talking about why people don't watch the
news as much as.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They used to.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Although the youngsters are getting their news quote unquote on TikTok,
which means they're getting Chinese propaganda and little else.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Interesting, and that's something we both were contemplating during the
time off and coming back. How much of the so
called news is actually just unimportant age baiting a lot
of it and intentional controversy making for the clicks and
for the fundraising and for.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
A very small percentage of society who's paying attention to it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, that's the thing I mean in talk radio, there
are a lot of people who make a hell of
a lot of money in the podcast world through doing that.
There's a lot of money to be made. We just
prefer not to. I think it's bad for your soul
or on that to confer not to make money. That's
an interesting No, I think you missed my point. Ah,
So I read about the trying break at the trim alone.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I just want to tell Michael because I know he's
keeping track.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Also, Yeah, we're now it's six straight weeks of no
soap in the men's bathroom in the main stall.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Michael, I don't know if you're keeping track.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I will bring soap in six You got to scratch
a hashmark in the wall like it's a prison.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I feel like the main I'm talking the big stall
where people do their main business.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You gotta have soap there. There's been no soap for
at least a month and a half. It seems like
a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is not dignified. I'm bringing soap in bar up soap.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, okay, so here's a question. I can tell you
it's absolute certainty. There was no soap in there, like
the last week of September. Was it refilled at any
point between then and now?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't think so. It's okay, all right, So there
you go months anyway? That awful?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What does the building management do? Exactly? Let's just start here.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What do you see as your jobs? Boy? So the trilemma,
here's what it is.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
And I got this from a story that was called
is America headed for a debt crisis? Look abroad for answers,
and they highlight the pathetic and floundering British and French
are valued allies since w W two days and they're
talking about the obvious situation where they have mounting debt problems.
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But here's your trilemma. If you have too much debt.
The bond market hates it. What do we care, you
say to yourself, Well, that's how the US finances so
much of it's spending right now is we borrow money,
we sell bonds. And because it's the most safe bet
on the planet that the United States of America will
pay its debts, it's an extremely popular investment. The problem is,
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as that great confidence in our debt service gets shakier,
the eels rise, the rates rise, the amount of interest
we must pay rises. So it matters from a budgetary
and tax point of view whether the bond market thinks, oh,
it's perfectly safe, or whether they're starting to think.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Man, they're running up a lot of debt.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And then the second leg of the trilemma is the
is the budget itself. I mean, you can't just spend
yourself into oblivion, so you have to be willing to
make cuts at some point or raised taxes. The third
leg of the trilemma is the voters. And again they
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highlight voters in Britain, especially well France too, who have
said essentially no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
No no, we want enormous welfare services and low taxes,
which is absolutely idiotically unsustainable.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Elon spoke to that a little bit during the break.
He was on some podcasts talking about AI and robots
and stuff, but he was asked about the whole doge
thing and everything like that, and he said, basically, I'm
out of the whole trying to fix the country game.
He said, it can't be done, at least not in
our current political climate. People just don't want to deal
with reality. And he's a hand percent right. I can
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see how he waited into that and thought, Wow, people
are just going to pretend this isn't a problem, or
that you can get out of this situation without cutting
programs right things wishing.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Or magic beans or something like that. And I'm sorry
I misstated the second leg of the trilemma, that is
the economy. If you raise taxes to a confiscatory rate
too high, you get a crush economic growth. As California,
the high tax is the most hostile environment to businesses.
Year after year after year, businesses are fleeing. If it
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weren't for AI, Gavin Newsom would be in stocks getting
pelted with rotten tomatoes right now anyway. So you've got
the pressure of the bond market, the economy and the voter,
and the voter is in to a large degree the.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Key legacy, and the voter is the most the only
part you can really hope to have any effect on
the other two with.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Right, then we get bailed out, the United States get built,
gets bailed out because people need dollars around the world
to trade with. That is the the great trade currency
of the world. That's not sustainable forever for a variety
of reasons that I won't get into because it's long
and it's boring and I only half understand it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
But our.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The dollar status is that must have global asset is declining.
All right, Here's why I said the most frightened person
in the world ought to be the next president of
the United States. According to the re re rejiggered numbers,
the Social Security Trust Fund will be broke in twenty
thirty three. You remember when that year seemed really, really distant. Well,
(24:31):
the guy or Gallo wins in twenty twenty eight is
going to be in office, you know, barring some extraordinary
turn of events, until until twenty thirty two. And if
the trust me if Social Security is going broke in
twenty thirty three, that discussion is going to dominate that term.
(24:53):
And so between Congress and that poor son of a
gun or daughter of a gun who's going to be president,
they are going to have to make the utterly gut
wrenching decisions to save social security or benefits are going
to be cut across the board. And man, you want
to talk about a political blood path and a reckoning
with reality if we still have it in us, that's
(25:14):
gonna be it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Hmm, I'll be fun to watch. Oh boy, Elon is right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
The current political climate, that's a problem that they got
in France in Britain is people just don't want to
deal with reality. They It's amazing. I just I can't
believe that the majority of people can't be convinced. Look,
this is unsustainable and we got to do things different.
All right, who's on board. Let's roll up our sleeves
and get no, we're going to keep demanding a dollar
(25:45):
seventy worth of government for the price of a dollar.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Okay, it's worth repeating the founding pop as. The last
thing they wanted was a democracy. They wanted a democratic republic, obviously,
and that's you can use the term democracy accurately enough
to describe that. But they knew a a lot of
common people are too dumb or unwise to understand that
the person telling them no, we can have low taxes
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and high spending forever is a liar and a panderer
and is just telling you that because they want to
have power to figure out where all that money flows,
and a lot of people just don't get that. They
also understood that mobs tend to get in moods and
then do really really stupid stuff. But yeah, I think
it's all gonna come down in the next term, next
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Speaker 4 (27:48):
We got yet another word of the Year from a
different organization. Oxford University Press has named They're Worthy to
Year for twenty twenty five. I don't know if it's
a word of a year. Pretty good word.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Though, rage bait.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Rage Bait's pretty good words kind of fits with what
we were just talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Perfect lead into the article I came across on vacation
I unwisely opened.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was intrigued.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I was hooked by the click baity headline, and it
pissed me off in the midst of.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The holiday cheer. I will explain in moments, and you
believe it was rage bait.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
And partly and also partly just a great distillation of
what's wrong with social media in the Internet.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's the perfect example.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
So just to define rage bait, would it be like
if you if you got a headline that you know,
transboy dominates girls, track and field, they just know, Oh,
you're gonna hate the reading about this.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, that's sure. That's an example.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, or anything including the word the name Trump for
years and years and years in lefty media, Trump's latest outrage,
that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Wait, will you see this? You thought it was bad before? Yeah,
rage bait? Okay, what Joe mentioned. Oh and a congress
person over the break gave quite a speech about how
they all get rich. It was fantastic. I look forward
to getting to in hour three, I hope you can
stick around. As I was getting my coffee, I was
(29:20):
reminded that the long tradition of my brother's giving me
crap for putting cream in my coffee continued while I
was around everybody for the holiday, as my brother if
he could pass the cream, and he said, do you
need some high heels with that? Also, yes, that sort
of thing appropriate. Everybody looks down on me for putting
cream in my coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh well, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Interestingly, my youngest, my daughter, she needs to put cream
in her coffee as a woman when she uses the
Kurrig machine, but not my espresso machine.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Oh really, because yeah, I put in there because otherwise
just eats a hole in my stomach.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, which, you know you don't want a hole in
your stuff. So there.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I was in a lovely mood, surrounded by family over
the holiday week. My all three of our kids, both
of my siblings, my dad, my brother's family were all
in town for Thanksgiving week, partly because, as I mentioned earlier,
my dad's eighty fifth birthday was Thanksgiving Day, and we
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celebrated lavishly and also played eighteen holes of golf at
age eighty five, My brother and my dad and I played.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It was absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, I mean, he's obviously not the player that he
used to be in all and gets annoyed about it.
Evidently that continues till the end of your life. Golf
is really annoying.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
But it was eighty five. You're like, how could I
hit that shot? Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah exactly. I'm like, Dad, this is incredible. It
is a blessing. He's like, I just keep shoving it
to the right. What the hell's going on here? Am
I wind up wrong?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who cares? That's hilarious?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know it's something, isn't it so? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But here there, I wasn't just such a lovely frame
of mind, ignoring the news more or less.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And I so come to I don't know why, to
the temptation.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I think it was Satan himself who said, take a
look at.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The New York Post. Why don't you see what they're
ragan about? Why didn't you see if there's something that
you want to click on?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Here?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Boy? And so I opened the New York Post app
for some reason.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
There's this article Aaron Andrews fires back at sports personalities
after holiday comments backlash.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And I violated a sacred rule.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Any journalism about internet arguments is not journalism.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's crap.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I wish everybody I wish the president would give an
Oval office address about this. Any news story built around
a couple of comments on social media, those people should
be drummed out of journalism.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Right, But it was the spirit of it that pissed
me off so much so. Aaron Andrews, the longtime female reporter,
sideline reporter et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Does very good job.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
She was doing a podcast that I'm not familiar with.
She was the guest and they were talking to her
about her career and they asked her, and this isn't
made clear at the beginning of the article, I think
to draw you into the rage bait, they asked her
for young girls or or young women who are thinking
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to get thinking about getting into your line of work,
what are some of the things they don't know about it?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Some of the downsides? And one of the things she said.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Was, well, you miss a lot of holidays that you'd
like to be home with your family, but you're on
the road and you're doing your job.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, simple as that. Well you got this.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Jenna Lane, who's a reporter covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
for ESPN, ways in saying saw Aaron Andrews remarks about
the challenges in this business above starting at a low
age and not having holidays. I appreciate what she's trying
to say, but let's consider the folks working two to
three jobs in retail, in warehouses, and in the service
industry right now, just trying to make ends meet. They're
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not getting time with their families either. Oh my god,
your life would be a dream for them. I mean,
let's keep this in perspective. Let's have some perspective.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And then you got hack loser Trey Wingo, former NFL
host back in the nineties at ESPN. That's literally what
they pay you for, he posted on X because You've
got to be angry, including a headline about her remarks.
Aaron said it herself once, they pay you for the
traveling sacrifices, because doing the games is the fun part.
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And these people just what bothers me the most about
it is how obvious it is that they're just saying,
look at me, look at me, I'm morally superior to
Aaron Andrews. What about the poor working people? I got
a question for you, halfwits. If Aaron Andrews was in
a car wreck and broke her leg in two places
and the pain was horrible. Can she say the pain
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is horrible? Or would you say, how about a little perspective?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are Yeah, how about a single mom who has to
work the night jift to Denny's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
She knows what pain is.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
If her like broken two places, she'd be having pain
and she's gotta go work at denny.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So want's to have a little perspective, Jennal? Or what's
your erin?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Oh my god, you people are perth pathetic. Boy, God,
your need to be morally superior to somebody is so
bad you actually go with a criticism that bad. She's
telling little girls, Look, you're gonna be away a lot.
You've got to travel, You're gonna miss your family.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Oh about a little perspective.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Oh god, that just pissed me off, and I thought,
what are you doing? Look you get the internet, you idiot,
Go deal with the people in your life who are
actually there, which reminded me of one of my you know,
my vows that I have to renew every now and again.
I hate the expression touch grass because it's gotten such
(34:58):
it's such a cliche. But make your life your life.
The people you actually see and talk to and deal
with interact with, do business with, play sports with, not
everybody online, that's not your life.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I saw somebody write eloquently about this sort of news
story where they grab two comments, often not even you know,
well known people like in your case, just random comment
ers on social media, and they build a story around
it that needs to be outlawed. And I'm a free
speech guy that needs to be outlawed. But too many
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people fall forward. And sometimes I'll click on a story
and then I'll get halfway through it and think, wait
a second, is the only thing to this story is
Jim and Omaha said something mean on Twitter about this thing.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's it. That's the whole story that ed in Miami
had said, fright right, God, that's the worst journalism out there.
We need to do better.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
As a completology Controls waded in and said sarcastic things.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
The Internet did not like this person's version of the
national anthem, and they'll pick two random cults from people
and build a story around it. We got to stop
doing that. It's the consumer that drives it. Though you
read it, they know how much time you spent on
the article. They got the algorithm.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Uh so to two final points about this. Number one,
I'm a little surprised that Aaron Andrews dignified that jackass
a couple of comments with responses, but she also took
aim at NFL News aggregator Dove Climan, who I've never
heard of in my life, whose headline was Andrews.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Under heavy fire for her holiday's remarks under heavy from
losers online? Who cares? Oh, my lord is to break
out of this?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I don't know if there is no I was just
gonna say, can you get a shot or something that
it's well, it's like the we GOVI is in the
other weight loss drugs where you look at food and
thinking nah, I don't need that. I need a shot,
where I see a headline like that and think, eh,
that's stupid. Just pass it.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
HM. One way too if you're under heavy fire would
be to ignore the heavy fire from random losers. If
you missed a seconment of the podcast ARM showing a
yety on demand good stuff planned for hour three, be there,
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