December 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- MAAH, interest rates & inflation
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- The Australia ban on social media
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong and Decide
and now he Armsdrong get it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Live from studio scene season your a dimly lit room.
Hold on, here we go deep within the bowels of
the Armstrong You getting communications compound and a midweek Wednesday,
we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Austrial and teen ages.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How come they've been banned from social media until the
age of sixteen?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I guess it's.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
An interesting experiment in trying to protect kids from the
evils of the interwebs. That will give them plenty of
time to practice their diddos and right craft a shrimp
on the Barbie recipes pet they're koalas or whatever they
need to do and evade the killer snakes, insects, spiders,
sharks and koalas of Australia. Yeah, I look forward to
(01:14):
talking about that later and I look forward to seeing
how that experiment works. And maybe we ought to do
it here in the United States, or have some states
done it already? Now some stories states have done it
with porn already, where you have to do age identification.
But I don't know have we done that with social
media anywhere? And if not, why not. Yeah, it's pretty
easily evaded, I think. But you know, all these imperfect solutions,
(01:35):
maybe we layer them, We experiment, we see what works
and what doesn't, why it doesn't work. Got to try something.
The kids are getting ruined.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Certainly a variety of things.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of things in my life I've not done
because they were against the law.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
If you tell your.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Kids it's against the law to go on social media,
some kids anyway are not going to go on social
media because it's.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Against the law, right right.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Certainly could change these societ I had old calculus, which
is a fancy sounding sentence that means zig could work
some Our general manager could have been ma, ma, Is
that how we're gonna pronounce it? Ma wah as opposed
to maga or maha. Sounds like you're your dentist. Just
ask your question you're trying to answer. So, how's your
(02:19):
summer kids doing well in school?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ma?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Make America affordable again? Ma ma, that's the new slogan,
and I'm a little pronunciation. We'll play from clips from
uh Trump's ninety minute Riley last night.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
If Jesus returns, hey wrap it up at like forty
five minutes, two hours, come on, I don't know who
wants to hear anybody talk that long.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But we'll play some clips from that a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But uh, And he's going to go across the country
at these rallies, you know, trying to talk up economic success,
and he thinks the messaging is bad. Is why the
poll numbers are where they are on people's attitudes about
the economy. Remind people that, hey, gas prices are dang
danglan they are, and all that sort of stuff. But
the interest rate situation today, so they're almost certainly going
(03:20):
to cut interest rates today. But of the twelve member
panel of the Fed that do the voting, it's going
to be a split vote they think, as opposed to
a unanimous vote. And the no votes are worried that
because inflation this last month was actually higher than a
year ago, and they're worried inflation is going to go
(03:41):
up if we do another interest rate cut. That and
so I'm not jazzed about this interest rate cut because
I'm more worried about inflation than a quarter a point
on my credit card.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right, I would agree, I would agree things.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I don't know how many speeches it will take
to turn the tide to public perception out you know,
people's pocket books. There's my kitchen table issues. I don't
know if you have to bat like a sheep.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
A sheep? Is that what that sounded like to you?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, but it sounded like to you, Katie, a goat.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm just being difficulty slicing it kind of in there.
It sounded stupid, it's ungulate.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What's the what's that broad category of animals that includes
both sheep and goats?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think you're right there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I should know that, as I've had many, many, many,
many many of them around.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Me in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, heck, you're the goat of goats for your county.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
As I was starting to say, though, I get how
counterbalancing the utter unfairness of the media is a pretty
good strategy for the Trump administration. I'm not sure how
effective it'll be. And again, his in incredible self indulgence.
You got to tighten it up. Two hours of rambling
about just everything.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, it's worked pretty well for him for decade or
so now.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But the interest rate cut, though, if if the if
the there are more yes votes and no votes on
cutting the interest rate, and I hope the s votes
are right because if if inflation, like if we're doing
a dance here with inflation and an interest rate cutting
causes to go up, Ain't no amount of rallies talking
about affordability gonna make any difference if inflation comes back
(05:36):
to where it's like noticeable, right, absolutely true, whole, especially
because for the empteenth time, inflation is like interest compounding.
Your the year three percent more than the inflated number
of last year, and the next year will be four
percent more of that extra.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Inflated number, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Henry and I went to black Bear Downer last night,
a low priced little diner chain diner in California, and uh,
he had pancakes with bacon, and I had the same
thing I always get every single time I go. Chicken
fried steak, hash browns, two eggs over easy with sweet toast.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But oh, yes, that's a good meal.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I get the small but oh they have sizes, yeah,
they have regular, interesting and I get some there's forty
four dollars chimney, forty four dollars. Holy cowch you order
a nice bottle of cab along with your chick water.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
We drink waters. And I mean, I gotta believe most
Americans are the same as me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That every single time you get it with a grocery
bill or you're out to eat, you're like, what it
was forty four dollars for a couple of pancakes, bacon,
and you know, a breakfast for two crazy. Yeah, So
it'll take a while to turn that around. And if
inflation comes back and that's forty eight dollars this summer,
it ain't gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Good, all right, agreed. I help them.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Feds know what they're doing. How much political pressure you
think they feel?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Too late, so stupid like talking to a chair. Ah,
they're certainly aware of it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
God, I wouldn't think you'd cared all.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A lot of these guys are bank presidents and then
all kinds of very successful people and be like whatever,
say what you want about me.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Nobody knows who I am. I'm voting this way, you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I got to leave the FED and go back to
my life, which was perfectly fine before. Yeah, I don't
know that that ring's true to me too. Yeah, I
don't know. I'm just fed up with the whole thing. Yeah, well,
what life? Was that a cry for help? No? No,
I think that was a cry for help. No, I
couldn't be better.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Just the political scene. It's just it's liars and morons
yelling at each other. It's just not entertaining after a while. Well. No,
but the economy is for real, and I just tell
the people pulling the levers to pull the right levers,
or hold on to the lever and leave it alone
until it needs to be pulled. I don't know how
many idea what's right? Leave the levers exactly?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They just watching an economist and of course they're alla
thing but expecting it to be an incredibly slow spring
for housing buying and selling homes, very little movement between
people's attitudes and the fact that people are still stuck
in there.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I heard somebody talking the other day, a reporter on.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
A podcast, how she's got a I think she said
a one percent loan.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I didn't know anybody got them that low. We have
a pretty low one in our house. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And that I can't imagine ever leaving right, because how
you gonna you know, we all know the math doesn't
work on that. You can decide I'm gonna downsize by
half and you're still gonna end up with a higher.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Payment when you leave your current loan situation. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I've been looking at this and thinking about this for
years now, and the only thing that shakes people loose
is major life change. Have to be transferred to a
different city, or you're you're no longer north of the dirt.
I mean major life change. That's a major life change.
We got married, we had a kid. Sometimes, uh yeah,
it's crazy, unprecedented, you know. Let's start the show officially.
(09:00):
I don't remember the opening clip is so that's exciting.
Ma I need to learn how to say that. I'm
Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday,
November the tenth, the year twenty twenty five, where Armstrong,
Getty and we approved of this program. Let's begin that officially.
According to FCC rules, the Rags here comes the show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
At Mark Manhattan, Federal Judge Paul Engelmeyer approved the release
of all sealed grand jury transcripts and evidence related to
the indictment and eventual conviction of Glei Maxwell. He warns
anyone hoping for new bombshells will be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wow. So the judge who yesterday said I'm going to
release all the Maxwell stuff said I've looked at it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There ain't nothing there. Yeah, don't get all excited, and
did lead the news with it. Wow. Yeah, I know, shocking, Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I was just reminded that today is the tenth So
my son has a shift at the Christmas Tree lot tonight.
My youngest in Boy Scouts, So the Boy Scout Christmas
Tree Lot. We have to work a couple of two
hours ships. This is part of our duty and that'll
be fun tonight. I think I get to use a chainsaw,
which is very exciting. But oh wow, uh, like, can
I just throw.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You in there with her? You ever used a chainsaw before?
You just have go ahead? And then next thing I
know him? What's the American spirit?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You remember our favorite mountain Christmas Tree lot way back
in the day. I showed up with my chainsaw as
usual one the year and they said, I'm sorry, you
can't use that. Our insurance liability coverage won't permit it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But this lot is uh, they're already choped down. It's
just still like, so I chased the guy around the lot.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
With my chainsaw. I don't give you a liability.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Of course, you were wearing a hockey mask because it's
summertime winter.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, in case hockey game breaks out right, people freaked
out right. So we got Katie's headlines.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, so memory Yeah, and at Christmas time of all time, Yeah,
we got Katie's headlines. More news of the day, what
they're doing on Australia and what we think of that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I got a what was I had a story about.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So all representive Nancy Mace of South Carolina went nutso
on some TSA cops and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like that at the airport. The other day. I got
a story about something.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I saw along those lines one time, some people yelling
at cops, A people of privilege yelling at cops, and
how bad I felt for the cops. I still remember
it was thirty years ago. It's horrifying to watch anyway,
lots on the way stay with us. Do you use
dry anti purse prints put under your arm or like
(11:31):
the wet kind?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The wet kind Katie.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I use the aerosol, So I don't. Is that dry airs.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
At you all? Fancy? This is nineteen seventy eight. I
didn't know did they still have it? They still have
aerosol atspur and I didn't realize it. Well, I should
start using that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, different propellants than back in the day, don't you know.
Can't have a hole in the ozone layer.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Dry. I feel like it's hard to wash off later
and then the wet. I feel like he eats my
under arms all wet and I feel wet. Comings for
sharing the spray. I like, I'm gonna try the aerosol.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thanks for the tip. There you go. That's my tip
of the day. Appreciate that anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Let's figure out who's reporting what it's the lead story
with Katie Green Katie Well.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Of course, the boat strike remains at the top. So
here's a few of the headlines. From the Washington Post.
House panel plans to end its boat strike probe. From
The Independent, heg Seth tells congressional leaders he is weighing
the release of the boat strike video, and from the BBC,
Congress ups its pressure to release the boat strike video
with a threat to heg Seth's travel budget.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So you think he's just trying to wait it out.
Something happens, people forget about it. Yeah, that was my thought.
It's just classic foot dragging.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's interesting the dynamics though, that you have the committee
saying all right, we're ending the investigation, but your Congress
as a whole, which is dominated by Republicans, just saying yeah,
we'll come out with the video where we're not going
to let you travel any more.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
From the New York Times, Trump says Americans are doing great,
even as views on the economy sour.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He was interviewed. He gave himself an eight plus plus
plus plus ooh.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
For his handling with the attis, and then he truth
out one of the longest truths he's ever truth out
last night.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There has never been a president that has just worked
as hard as me. Hmm, that might be true.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
From the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
CEOs are all in on AI.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
A new survey is showing that CEOs expect AI not
only to boost productivity and their economic growth.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'll have to read that. So that's not the AI companies.
This is just regular companies out there thinking AI is
going to be big and we're paying attention.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
From ABC, Instagram gives users control of their algorithms and
a new feature.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I want that with YouTube, I want it with Instagram,
I want with everything. It's like, all right, I was
on a kick about British comedies there for a second.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's not my only interest in life. Show me something else.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
From the New York Post, door dash driver accused of
pepper spraying customers Arby's order, resulting in the wife falling ill.
So who did the spring the door dash driver? And
it all got caught on their ring camera because duh,
everybody has one these days. But the chick drops the bag,
(14:36):
takes a picture of the delivery, and then pulls pepper
spray out of her pocket and just sprays.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
The whole order down.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Well she's a lunatic, Yeah, wondering if it was like
tip retaliation or something. Oh yeah, USA today, we need
more jails, lots more jails, plenty of rooms.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
From USA today.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
A pig named six seven is pardoned, saved from being
a holiday meal.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
This was in Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's a lot to hate there.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, Hey, Miami does the pig partning and this year's
pig was named six seven.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You can't just.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Say Miami does the pig partner, They pardon a pig
of sentences that I got it. I thought it was fine. Yeah,
obviously it's a thing in Miami. I've had Cuban pork
dishes of various sorts. Who those Cuban folks know their
way around a hog. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Study fines getting less than seven hours of sleep is
linked to shorter life expectancy across America.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Ah, dang it, Ash, I'm legally dead.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yami too.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm sure I've shaved off a half dozen years of
my life.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, not me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I'm gonna be one hundred lived, one hundred and thirty five.
I'd be asleep now.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
If I had the choice. I wish I could do that.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And finally, the Babylon Bee special needs community demands that
people stop comparing them to Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Oh, he was upset over the weekend. He said, people
are driving by his houses, his house and yelling the
R word.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And they are and they're filming themselves doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
God, admit, I'd be tempted. It's not funny. Got the
phone turned around for a little selfie. Hey, our word?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
This guy had a bullhorn?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah? Is it our word? Now?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean, is it so toxic? The oh please career.
It means decreased. It's a perfectly legitimate word if you
don't want to use it to describe humans who are
developmentally disabled for some reason. Okay, heard somebody uh talking
(16:55):
about the timing on an old timey car engine. Either
advanced timing or you retard it. That's oh boy, the
term oh get over it. People who treat language like
its magical incantations, please grow up. Try that line on
HR this afternoon when you're in the meeting about this.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Might do it. Yeah, tell them to grow up. We
got more news to get to. If you miss a segment,
get the podcast arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Any new law is set to take effect this week
in Australia to keep children under sixteen on social media,
which means millions of children in Australia will finally put
their phones down, go outside, get bit by something.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And so this story is getting a tremendous amount of attention.
And why do you think that is? I think everybody's
aware that the omnipresence of screens is really impacted humankind,
especially the young, and we're trying to figure out what
(17:59):
to do with it and how to minimize the harm.
It's kind of interesting that so clearly it's a topic
people think about a lot, parents think about a lot,
are worried about.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yet we haven't done this or anything.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beauty of having a smaller country
is it's almost like an individual state does that hardangers
is that of benefit? Well, in fact, there's in certainly,
but you can experiment like a state would. But it
has the weight of the nation of Australia when you
(18:34):
know how many what's the population of Australia, like four
hundred and fifty people, six seven hundred people. Yeah, so
it gets a lot of attention because it's a country.
Blah blah blah. So anyway, on a more serious note,
here's what you need to know about at thirty Michael.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
It's an Australia to social media ban for all children
under sixteen, the first of its kind, Australia's Prime Minister
saying the band is aimed at protecting children, supporting families.
Social media companies calling the ban misguided.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, sure they are.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
The population of Australia is twenty seven million people, significantly
smaller than Caliborn.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah yeah, and way more kangaroos.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Let's see well, why not, let's turn to the lead
clip number thirty one.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
State laws are sort of all over the map. Nebraska
requires social media platforms to verify the ages of users
and get parental consent for miners to create new accounts. Utah,
Texas Louisiana are requiring app stores to verify users ages
and get parental consent for new downloads. New York is
banning what it calls addictive social media feeds. But I
(19:42):
do think that we'll see both US states and other
jurisdictions around the world watching what happens with this Australia
ban and crucially how affective this law is at actually
keeping teens off of these platforms.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, so there's something I didn't know. So no, we're
already doing it in the United States. Nebraska is doing it,
and then there's other versions in other states.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So the thing I don't know that I brought up
yesterday is does Australia have more control over their Internet
than the United States does over theirs? You know, in
reading about this, I don't actually know the answer to
that question, but everybody's admitting that. Look, well, for instance,
the Prime Minister said he's under. Anthony Albanize is his name.
(20:28):
He says he's under no illusions. The teenage social media
use will be curbed overnight.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Quote. This won't be perfect, just like chances are.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Last night somewhere in Australia, someone under eighteen got a
drink in a pub. That's the legal drinking age in Australia.
But he said the government expects compliance. This is the law.
The banned platforms are heavily used by Australian teens. Facebook, Instagram,
kick Reddit, snapchat, threads, TikTok, twitch x and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
The companies are now required to take reasonable steps to
enforce the new rules under threat of penalty. Parents and
children won't be fined for using the apps. A tech
company said they'd comply with the band. Some began deactivating
accounts before the law came into effect. Several others said
they began notifying users believed to be under sixteen that
they need to verify their agents identification or by providing
(21:19):
a selfie for facial analysis. I'm not sure if I
understand the definition of social media since they throw in
YouTube often.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Are you yeah commenting on your friends?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I mean, I definitely understand like how Facebook is social media.
YouTube shorts is a lot like TikTok even that even
I don't know, I'm lost because I don't do these things.
How is that in what senses that social media that
is damaging to kids?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I always understand Facebook because I always picture like Facebook
where they've got a post with I don't know, there's
like a a high school group where all the cool
people are commenting on everything all the time, and if
you're not in the in group, you're feeling out and
they're making fun of you or whatever. But I can't
picture that how that works on Instagram or YouTube. Katie's young,
(22:16):
maybe you can.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
With Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, you can not only post
your own content, but you can repost other people's content
and then get feedback from other people, so that turns
it into a social media platform.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So you can comment and so people are reading the comments. Enough.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh yeah, I think you're fixating on one aspect of
Internet life to the exclusion of endlessly scrolling short videos
and having your brain termed to mush, because a lot
of parents are as concerned about that as cyber bullying
or sextortion. Maybe that's just everything online, isn't it. I
(22:52):
mean absolutely everything.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, the terms often does that with basketball highlights, I
mean everything.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Of these apps also have a messaging feature as well,
so you can contact users directly.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
In Australia, many parents are on board. We are pretty
overjoyed about it, said Staff, a high school teacher in
rural Victoria who has two children. He started a group
that encourages parents to delay giving young people smartphones. On
it goes so now, I think would be a perfectly
appropriate time to my point of a second or two ago.
This is a doctor by the name of Victoria Dunkley
(23:29):
I'm talking about well. I think she explains herself pretty
well in thirty three Michael.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
No matter what they come in with, whether it's depression, anxiety,
ADHD or whatever their complaints are, the first thing we
do is just take them off all screens for four
weeks and then see what's left. So their symptoms might
disappear completely. Other kids, you know there are symptoms might
be cut down and they still might have a diagnosis,
but they are functioning much better, and a lot of
(23:54):
times we can get away with not using medication, especially
for younger kids. You can see results really within a
few days.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But even with teams physically change.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
Yes, they start going to bed earlier, their mood is better.
Parents report that they are more engaged, they come out
of the room more, they're happier. So a lot of
these symptoms that look like they have ADHD or anxiety
or depression go away completely.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That is highly, highly troubling, it is, and yet it
is in a way good news. It's like we've figured
out why kids are dying of polio, and now we've
just got.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
To come up with a vaccine, for instance.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And I harken back to a story we were talking
about yesterday when we were discussing education in general and
how miserably failing it is in the United States. Government
schools ought to be torn down to the studs. Anyway,
this study that showed the more time students spent on
screens at school, the further their scores fell, and from
(24:55):
zero hours a day to one minute to one hour,
one to two hours, two to four hours, four to
six hours, six hours, et cetera. This is at school
schools that used high tech educational tools, and it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Uniformly clear the more screen time, the lower the scores.
Here's the graph in math, here's the graph in science.
Here's the reading scores. They're all exactly the same. And
they describe, as we mentioned yesterday, that the kids just
don't focus this. It's like they're watching a really boring
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YouTube video and they're they're not into it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I wonder if they don't get any work done.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I wonder if it matters what you're watching on the
screen though, as opposed to just calling anything on a
screen screen time. Because I watched a lot of TV
in my life, my ability to pay attention didn't go away.
Like when I was twenty five years old and I
was watching lots of TV, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It didn't. It didn't affect my ability to read a book.
The stuff I do.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now looking at a screen does affect my lady to
read a book. There's something different. Uh, yeah, you know.
Some of the science behind this is crazy interesting. They
mentioned that when you read a real book, a physical
book of read from paper, each word occupies a fixed
physical location. They say, if you're reading a punt out
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of this piece right now, this sentence exists right here,
and this spatial position becomes part of the memory.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You're forming.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
This is why readers often remember where in a book
an idea appeared, even if they couldn't recall the exact wording.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, that's you know, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's one of the things I don't like about the
kindle experience. I don't have that as well. Uh, remembering
where in a book to find something. Yeah, when I
read this, it was like a light bulb going on
in my head, because it's absolutely true. If I am
trying to remember an idea or a specific quote or
a dramatic passage of a book, I can see physically
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where it is in the thickness of the book roughly
and where that stuff was on the page. It had
never even dawned on me that that was part of
the memory, but it's clearly true.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There's more on this in a moment or two.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Unless you force people, there's no way you're gonna bring
back paper books. And we need to force them, Jack,
We need to force people to read physical books so
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Remember that code armstrong at checkout. I feel like with
this conversation you need to discuss.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Realistic attempts to change things back or maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe maybe you can make crazy, violent, sweeping changes if
the laws are strict enough, rules are stricted off. This
is the disagreement we have. It's not a disagreement, it's
just a different difference in point of view every time
(28:58):
we talk about this stuff. I'm just I just care
about individuals, about myself and people I care about, and
people listening right now, societal change is so beyond anything
I can accomplish. I just you're right about your pessimism
one hundred percent, right. I just think since I can't
accomplish that, I'm going to try to accomplish this. I mean,
(29:19):
could you ever I could see this happening. I could
see us deciding that getting a smartphone.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Before you're eighteen is just a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And my kids, my especially my oldest, wouldn't need a
smartphone if all his friends didn't have a smartphone, your kid,
if all your if your kid's friends have a smartphone
and they don't it's it's a great disadvantage.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh sure, I understand that. Yeah, but if.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
None of them had it, I mean we all lived
without them. Fine, we figured out a way where to
meet Friday night at seven o'clock. Somehow we got the
word out. Yeah, yeah, agreed. It would become like you know,
you'd hear your your neighbor gave your kid bottle of
whiskey and the keys to the car.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You think they're insane.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It could happen so societally, I'm not optimistic. But so anyway,
back to the science of this stuff, which is so interesting.
You remember where in a book an idea appeared, even
if you can't recall the exact wording, But digital text
has no such stability. If you're scrolling through the piece
that I'm reading right now from on a computer phone,
the sentence first appeared at the bottom, Now it's near
the middle, a little soon vanish out of the top,
(30:24):
et cetera. And with no fixed location for ideas to
attach to a spatial scaffold that supports memory collapses. As
a result, reading from screens often triggers an unconscious shift
from deep comprehension to shallow skimming, which they can see
with scientific methods of watching your eyeballs, which is glancing, scrolling,
(30:46):
and extracting instead of truly reading, and they illustrate it visually.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't know if I believe this. Are you arguing
with science? Well?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I know, specifically, I could call her if I wanted
to a neuros scientist with a PhD who claims the
science says there's no difference between reading on a reading
a kindle book or reading a regular book and the
way you take in the information and absorb it. It
doesn't mean they're right, but I just intuitively I believe that.
(31:16):
Certainly I could, like I said, I recognize the part
of I don't remember wearing a.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Book, so that's something. But I don't know if I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I've read a lot of books both ways, and I
just don't know if I feel like I'm getting a
lesser experience.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They cite the fact that this exam, the PISA exam,
what is that it's an acronym. Clearly okay, so reading
Comprehension exam. The scores dropped so sharply after the test
moved online, and it's why the SAT when it went
digital in twenty twenty four quietly redefined reading comprehension altogether. Well,
(31:49):
you know, it's interesting as I'm arguing this because, like
much to our executive producer Mike Hanson's dismay, I like
everything printed out on paper.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I don't like going to a screen to get all
of our show stuff. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I hate looking at a screen and having it there.
I just like it physically, knowing where it is and
organizing it that way. It's easier for me to organize
in my mind physically than you know, something on a
computer screen. So I don't know, no, no, And I'm
all for science digging into this stuff. And heck you
think it's a it's an understanding you. Okay, you need
(32:23):
to take a break. Mail bag coming up in moments.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Awesome, stay tuned. Yeah, we'll talk more about this later.
But if you wonder if.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Your kid's addicted to a phone, if they have a phone,
take it away from them for a while and see
how they act. That's classic addiction behavior. Aha, my boothe
my mad like my phone even five minutes. Yeah maybe,
all right, more on this to come. There's a lot
to say. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
It's a little longish.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Maybe we'll get to mailbag next hour.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know. Uh, it's Joe Raffiti wrote this. He's
an academic of some sort. But I absolutely love this.
And I can't remember if I've read this before, but
if I did, it's in the wrong file.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You're gonna hear it again.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Socialists perform compassion, capitalists live it. That probably sounds insane
to people who've been in doctor Nadan to believe that
caring means redistributing wealth by force.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
But here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Capitalism requires you to care about other people's needs. It
asks of you, what problems can I solve? What value
can I create? What do people actually want and need?
Your success is directly tied to how well you serve others.
You can't force people to buy from you, you can't
coerce them into using your product or service.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I think the problem is socialism sort of promises there
won't be losers. Capitalism sort of guarantees there will be
winners and losers. Yeah, Socialism is a is a philosophy
for children and those who have yet to grow up
and recognize the way.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Human beings really are.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Mail Bag drops note mail bag at Armstrong and giddy
dot com Ah, Aaron Wright's Colonial is a good thing.
Look at this. There are thousands of videos from various
s whole countries where young men are exhuming old graves
for clicks and Facebook reels.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
This must stop.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh my Internet viral ghoulishness tagging up graves. I hadn't
heard this, messing with the bones whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh my god, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.
Stay tuned. I got to look into that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let's see non binary WTF Alonymous wrikes. A friend of
mine was purchasing a gun and filling out the federal
background check. You noticed that for gender they had three
options male, female, and non binary. Hoping they're using this
to weed out anyone who checks non binary, because if
you don't know what your sex is, there's not a
chance in hell you used to be allowed to buy
a gun.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Tell Trump to fix this. I will talk to him.
Tell Trump to fix this. Well To I saved this one.
I got this a couple of days ago. To I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
JT and Livermore says, I'm not against the notion of
ap doom metric. That's your percentage you think AI will
doom humanity, he says, but I also want to pair
it with the P salvation number. Sure, a superintelligence would
be something new and unproven, could go paar shape for mankind.
But it isn't as if we're one hundred percent shape
shape safe if AGI is never built. Look at all
(35:18):
the great threats that might happen if we never built
the AGI nukes in all their forms, bioweapons, super volcano eruptions,
economic collapse, climate apocalypse, smad Mark Zuckerberg, Democrat policies, sex robots,
good list. Maybe having an AGI is the only way
to deal with some or all of the pending disasters.
So when you tell me your p DO number P
doom number, also tell me the percentage likelihood that an
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AGI would be necessary to solve protect us from things
too complicated or too difficult for us to solve on
our own aka r P salvation number. Interesting, great thought,
really interesting. Let's see we got thirty seconds. Oh dang,
it got a great baby vax email from a loyal
(36:02):
listener sleep listen, Danville. Maybe next hour I'll squeeze that
in baby's gonna have the hepatitis. I don't think that
the baby is where's the baby gonna get the appatitis.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Is it going to a whorehouse? No, it's not. It's
a baby. It's right here. It's been an odd thing
for a baby to do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
We've got a lot more an hour two if you
miss a segment, or an hour gets the podcast Armstrong
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Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong and Decide
and now he Armsdrong get it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Live from studio scene season your a dimly lit room.
Hold on, here we go deep within the bowels of
the Armstrong You getting communications compound and a midweek Wednesday,
we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Austrial and teen ages.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How come they've been banned from social media until the
age of sixteen?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I guess it's.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
An interesting experiment in trying to protect kids from the
evils of the interwebs. That will give them plenty of
time to practice their diddos and right craft a shrimp
on the Barbie recipes pet they're koalas or whatever they
need to do and evade the killer snakes, insects, spiders,
sharks and koalas of Australia. Yeah, I look forward to
(01:14):
talking about that later and I look forward to seeing
how that experiment works. And maybe we ought to do
it here in the United States, or have some states
done it already? Now some stories states have done it
with porn already, where you have to do age identification.
But I don't know have we done that with social
media anywhere? And if not, why not. Yeah, it's pretty
easily evaded, I think. But you know, all these imperfect solutions,
(01:35):
maybe we layer them, We experiment, we see what works
and what doesn't, why it doesn't work. Got to try something.
The kids are getting ruined.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Certainly a variety of things.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of things in my life I've not done
because they were against the law.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
If you tell your.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Kids it's against the law to go on social media,
some kids anyway are not going to go on social
media because it's.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Against the law, right right.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Certainly could change these societ I had old calculus, which
is a fancy sounding sentence that means zig could work
some Our general manager could have been ma, ma, Is
that how we're gonna pronounce it? Ma wah as opposed
to maga or maha. Sounds like you're your dentist. Just
ask your question you're trying to answer. So, how's your
(02:19):
summer kids doing well in school?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ma?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Make America affordable again? Ma ma, that's the new slogan,
and I'm a little pronunciation. We'll play from clips from
uh Trump's ninety minute Riley last night.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
If Jesus returns, hey wrap it up at like forty
five minutes, two hours, come on, I don't know who
wants to hear anybody talk that long.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But we'll play some clips from that a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But uh, And he's going to go across the country
at these rallies, you know, trying to talk up economic success,
and he thinks the messaging is bad. Is why the
poll numbers are where they are on people's attitudes about
the economy. Remind people that, hey, gas prices are dang
danglan they are, and all that sort of stuff. But
the interest rate situation today, so they're almost certainly going
(03:20):
to cut interest rates today. But of the twelve member
panel of the Fed that do the voting, it's going
to be a split vote they think, as opposed to
a unanimous vote. And the no votes are worried that
because inflation this last month was actually higher than a
year ago, and they're worried inflation is going to go
(03:41):
up if we do another interest rate cut. That and
so I'm not jazzed about this interest rate cut because
I'm more worried about inflation than a quarter a point
on my credit card.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right, I would agree, I would agree things.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I don't know how many speeches it will take
to turn the tide to public perception out you know,
people's pocket books. There's my kitchen table issues. I don't
know if you have to bat like a sheep.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
A sheep? Is that what that sounded like to you?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, but it sounded like to you, Katie, a goat.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm just being difficulty slicing it kind of in there.
It sounded stupid, it's ungulate.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What's the what's that broad category of animals that includes
both sheep and goats?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think you're right there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I should know that, as I've had many, many, many,
many many of them around.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Me in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, heck, you're the goat of goats for your county.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
As I was starting to say, though, I get how
counterbalancing the utter unfairness of the media is a pretty
good strategy for the Trump administration. I'm not sure how
effective it'll be. And again, his in incredible self indulgence.
You got to tighten it up. Two hours of rambling
about just everything.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, it's worked pretty well for him for decade or
so now.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But the interest rate cut, though, if if the if
the there are more yes votes and no votes on
cutting the interest rate, and I hope the s votes
are right because if if inflation, like if we're doing
a dance here with inflation and an interest rate cutting
causes to go up, Ain't no amount of rallies talking
about affordability gonna make any difference if inflation comes back
(05:36):
to where it's like noticeable, right, absolutely true, whole, especially
because for the empteenth time, inflation is like interest compounding.
Your the year three percent more than the inflated number
of last year, and the next year will be four
percent more of that extra.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Inflated number, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Henry and I went to black Bear Downer last night,
a low priced little diner chain diner in California, and uh,
he had pancakes with bacon, and I had the same
thing I always get every single time I go. Chicken
fried steak, hash browns, two eggs over easy with sweet toast.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But oh, yes, that's a good meal.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I get the small but oh they have sizes, yeah,
they have regular, interesting and I get some there's forty
four dollars chimney, forty four dollars. Holy cowch you order
a nice bottle of cab along with your chick water.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
We drink waters. And I mean, I gotta believe most
Americans are the same as me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That every single time you get it with a grocery
bill or you're out to eat, you're like, what it
was forty four dollars for a couple of pancakes, bacon,
and you know, a breakfast for two crazy. Yeah, So
it'll take a while to turn that around. And if
inflation comes back and that's forty eight dollars this summer,
it ain't gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Good, all right, agreed. I help them.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Feds know what they're doing. How much political pressure you
think they feel?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Too late, so stupid like talking to a chair. Ah,
they're certainly aware of it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
God, I wouldn't think you'd cared all.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A lot of these guys are bank presidents and then
all kinds of very successful people and be like whatever,
say what you want about me.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Nobody knows who I am. I'm voting this way, you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I got to leave the FED and go back to
my life, which was perfectly fine before. Yeah, I don't
know that that ring's true to me too. Yeah, I
don't know. I'm just fed up with the whole thing. Yeah, well,
what life? Was that a cry for help? No? No,
I think that was a cry for help. No, I
couldn't be better.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Just the political scene. It's just it's liars and morons
yelling at each other. It's just not entertaining after a while. Well. No,
but the economy is for real, and I just tell
the people pulling the levers to pull the right levers,
or hold on to the lever and leave it alone
until it needs to be pulled. I don't know how
many idea what's right? Leave the levers exactly?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They just watching an economist and of course they're alla
thing but expecting it to be an incredibly slow spring
for housing buying and selling homes, very little movement between
people's attitudes and the fact that people are still stuck
in there.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I heard somebody talking the other day, a reporter on.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
A podcast, how she's got a I think she said
a one percent loan.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I didn't know anybody got them that low. We have
a pretty low one in our house. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And that I can't imagine ever leaving right, because how
you gonna you know, we all know the math doesn't
work on that. You can decide I'm gonna downsize by
half and you're still gonna end up with a higher.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Payment when you leave your current loan situation. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I've been looking at this and thinking about this for
years now, and the only thing that shakes people loose
is major life change. Have to be transferred to a
different city, or you're you're no longer north of the dirt.
I mean major life change. That's a major life change.
We got married, we had a kid. Sometimes, uh yeah,
it's crazy, unprecedented, you know. Let's start the show officially.
(09:00):
I don't remember the opening clip is so that's exciting.
Ma I need to learn how to say that. I'm
Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday,
November the tenth, the year twenty twenty five, where Armstrong,
Getty and we approved of this program. Let's begin that officially.
According to FCC rules, the Rags here comes the show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
At Mark Manhattan, Federal Judge Paul Engelmeyer approved the release
of all sealed grand jury transcripts and evidence related to
the indictment and eventual conviction of Glei Maxwell. He warns
anyone hoping for new bombshells will be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wow. So the judge who yesterday said I'm going to
release all the Maxwell stuff said I've looked at it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There ain't nothing there. Yeah, don't get all excited, and
did lead the news with it. Wow. Yeah, I know, shocking, Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I was just reminded that today is the tenth So
my son has a shift at the Christmas Tree lot tonight.
My youngest in Boy Scouts, So the Boy Scout Christmas
Tree Lot. We have to work a couple of two
hours ships. This is part of our duty and that'll
be fun tonight. I think I get to use a chainsaw,
which is very exciting. But oh wow, uh, like, can
I just throw.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You in there with her? You ever used a chainsaw before?
You just have go ahead? And then next thing I
know him? What's the American spirit?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You remember our favorite mountain Christmas Tree lot way back
in the day. I showed up with my chainsaw as
usual one the year and they said, I'm sorry, you
can't use that. Our insurance liability coverage won't permit it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But this lot is uh, they're already choped down. It's
just still like, so I chased the guy around the lot.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
With my chainsaw. I don't give you a liability.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Of course, you were wearing a hockey mask because it's
summertime winter.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, in case hockey game breaks out right, people freaked
out right. So we got Katie's headlines.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, so memory Yeah, and at Christmas time of all time, Yeah,
we got Katie's headlines. More news of the day, what
they're doing on Australia and what we think of that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I got a what was I had a story about.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So all representive Nancy Mace of South Carolina went nutso
on some TSA cops and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like that at the airport. The other day. I got
a story about something.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I saw along those lines one time, some people yelling
at cops, A people of privilege yelling at cops, and
how bad I felt for the cops. I still remember
it was thirty years ago. It's horrifying to watch anyway,
lots on the way stay with us. Do you use
dry anti purse prints put under your arm or like
(11:31):
the wet kind?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The wet kind Katie.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I use the aerosol, So I don't. Is that dry airs.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
At you all? Fancy? This is nineteen seventy eight. I
didn't know did they still have it? They still have
aerosol atspur and I didn't realize it. Well, I should
start using that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, different propellants than back in the day, don't you know.
Can't have a hole in the ozone layer.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Dry. I feel like it's hard to wash off later
and then the wet. I feel like he eats my
under arms all wet and I feel wet. Comings for
sharing the spray. I like, I'm gonna try the aerosol.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thanks for the tip. There you go. That's my tip
of the day. Appreciate that anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Let's figure out who's reporting what it's the lead story
with Katie Green Katie Well.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Of course, the boat strike remains at the top. So
here's a few of the headlines. From the Washington Post.
House panel plans to end its boat strike probe. From
The Independent, heg Seth tells congressional leaders he is weighing
the release of the boat strike video, and from the BBC,
Congress ups its pressure to release the boat strike video
with a threat to heg Seth's travel budget.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So you think he's just trying to wait it out.
Something happens, people forget about it. Yeah, that was my thought.
It's just classic foot dragging.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's interesting the dynamics though, that you have the committee
saying all right, we're ending the investigation, but your Congress
as a whole, which is dominated by Republicans, just saying yeah,
we'll come out with the video where we're not going
to let you travel any more.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
From the New York Times, Trump says Americans are doing great,
even as views on the economy sour.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He was interviewed. He gave himself an eight plus plus
plus plus ooh.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
For his handling with the attis, and then he truth
out one of the longest truths he's ever truth out
last night.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There has never been a president that has just worked
as hard as me. Hmm, that might be true.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
From the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
CEOs are all in on AI.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
A new survey is showing that CEOs expect AI not
only to boost productivity and their economic growth.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'll have to read that. So that's not the AI companies.
This is just regular companies out there thinking AI is
going to be big and we're paying attention.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
From ABC, Instagram gives users control of their algorithms and
a new feature.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I want that with YouTube, I want it with Instagram,
I want with everything. It's like, all right, I was
on a kick about British comedies there for a second.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's not my only interest in life. Show me something else.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
From the New York Post, door dash driver accused of
pepper spraying customers Arby's order, resulting in the wife falling ill.
So who did the spring the door dash driver? And
it all got caught on their ring camera because duh,
everybody has one these days. But the chick drops the bag,
(14:36):
takes a picture of the delivery, and then pulls pepper
spray out of her pocket and just sprays.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
The whole order down.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Well she's a lunatic, Yeah, wondering if it was like
tip retaliation or something. Oh yeah, USA today, we need
more jails, lots more jails, plenty of rooms.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
From USA today.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
A pig named six seven is pardoned, saved from being
a holiday meal.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
This was in Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's a lot to hate there.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, Hey, Miami does the pig partning and this year's
pig was named six seven.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You can't just.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Say Miami does the pig partner, They pardon a pig
of sentences that I got it. I thought it was fine. Yeah,
obviously it's a thing in Miami. I've had Cuban pork
dishes of various sorts. Who those Cuban folks know their
way around a hog. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Study fines getting less than seven hours of sleep is
linked to shorter life expectancy across America.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Ah, dang it, Ash, I'm legally dead.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yami too.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm sure I've shaved off a half dozen years of
my life.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, not me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I'm gonna be one hundred lived, one hundred and thirty five.
I'd be asleep now.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
If I had the choice. I wish I could do that.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And finally, the Babylon Bee special needs community demands that
people stop comparing them to Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Oh, he was upset over the weekend. He said, people
are driving by his houses, his house and yelling the
R word.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And they are and they're filming themselves doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
God, admit, I'd be tempted. It's not funny. Got the
phone turned around for a little selfie. Hey, our word?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
This guy had a bullhorn?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah? Is it our word? Now?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean, is it so toxic? The oh please career.
It means decreased. It's a perfectly legitimate word if you
don't want to use it to describe humans who are
developmentally disabled for some reason. Okay, heard somebody uh talking
(16:55):
about the timing on an old timey car engine. Either
advanced timing or you retard it. That's oh boy, the
term oh get over it. People who treat language like
its magical incantations, please grow up. Try that line on
HR this afternoon when you're in the meeting about this.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Might do it. Yeah, tell them to grow up. We
got more news to get to. If you miss a segment,
get the podcast arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Any new law is set to take effect this week
in Australia to keep children under sixteen on social media,
which means millions of children in Australia will finally put
their phones down, go outside, get bit by something.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And so this story is getting a tremendous amount of attention.
And why do you think that is? I think everybody's
aware that the omnipresence of screens is really impacted humankind,
especially the young, and we're trying to figure out what
(17:59):
to do with it and how to minimize the harm.
It's kind of interesting that so clearly it's a topic
people think about a lot, parents think about a lot,
are worried about.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yet we haven't done this or anything.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beauty of having a smaller country
is it's almost like an individual state does that hardangers
is that of benefit? Well, in fact, there's in certainly,
but you can experiment like a state would. But it
has the weight of the nation of Australia when you
(18:34):
know how many what's the population of Australia, like four
hundred and fifty people, six seven hundred people. Yeah, so
it gets a lot of attention because it's a country.
Blah blah blah. So anyway, on a more serious note,
here's what you need to know about at thirty Michael.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
It's an Australia to social media ban for all children
under sixteen, the first of its kind, Australia's Prime Minister
saying the band is aimed at protecting children, supporting families.
Social media companies calling the ban misguided.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, sure they are.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
The population of Australia is twenty seven million people, significantly
smaller than Caliborn.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah yeah, and way more kangaroos.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Let's see well, why not, let's turn to the lead
clip number thirty one.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
State laws are sort of all over the map. Nebraska
requires social media platforms to verify the ages of users
and get parental consent for miners to create new accounts. Utah,
Texas Louisiana are requiring app stores to verify users ages
and get parental consent for new downloads. New York is
banning what it calls addictive social media feeds. But I
(19:42):
do think that we'll see both US states and other
jurisdictions around the world watching what happens with this Australia
ban and crucially how affective this law is at actually
keeping teens off of these platforms.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, so there's something I didn't know. So no, we're
already doing it in the United States. Nebraska is doing it,
and then there's other versions in other states.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So the thing I don't know that I brought up
yesterday is does Australia have more control over their Internet
than the United States does over theirs? You know, in
reading about this, I don't actually know the answer to
that question, but everybody's admitting that. Look, well, for instance,
the Prime Minister said he's under. Anthony Albanize is his name.
(20:28):
He says he's under no illusions. The teenage social media
use will be curbed overnight.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Quote. This won't be perfect, just like chances are.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Last night somewhere in Australia, someone under eighteen got a
drink in a pub. That's the legal drinking age in Australia.
But he said the government expects compliance. This is the law.
The banned platforms are heavily used by Australian teens. Facebook, Instagram,
kick Reddit, snapchat, threads, TikTok, twitch x and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
The companies are now required to take reasonable steps to
enforce the new rules under threat of penalty. Parents and
children won't be fined for using the apps. A tech
company said they'd comply with the band. Some began deactivating
accounts before the law came into effect. Several others said
they began notifying users believed to be under sixteen that
they need to verify their agents identification or by providing
(21:19):
a selfie for facial analysis. I'm not sure if I
understand the definition of social media since they throw in
YouTube often.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Are you yeah commenting on your friends?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I mean, I definitely understand like how Facebook is social media.
YouTube shorts is a lot like TikTok even that even
I don't know, I'm lost because I don't do these things.
How is that in what senses that social media that
is damaging to kids?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I always understand Facebook because I always picture like Facebook
where they've got a post with I don't know, there's
like a a high school group where all the cool
people are commenting on everything all the time, and if
you're not in the in group, you're feeling out and
they're making fun of you or whatever. But I can't
picture that how that works on Instagram or YouTube. Katie's young,
(22:16):
maybe you can.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
With Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, you can not only post
your own content, but you can repost other people's content
and then get feedback from other people, so that turns
it into a social media platform.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So you can comment and so people are reading the comments. Enough.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh yeah, I think you're fixating on one aspect of
Internet life to the exclusion of endlessly scrolling short videos
and having your brain termed to mush, because a lot
of parents are as concerned about that as cyber bullying
or sextortion. Maybe that's just everything online, isn't it. I
(22:52):
mean absolutely everything.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, the terms often does that with basketball highlights, I
mean everything.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Of these apps also have a messaging feature as well,
so you can contact users directly.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
In Australia, many parents are on board. We are pretty
overjoyed about it, said Staff, a high school teacher in
rural Victoria who has two children. He started a group
that encourages parents to delay giving young people smartphones. On
it goes so now, I think would be a perfectly
appropriate time to my point of a second or two ago.
This is a doctor by the name of Victoria Dunkley
(23:29):
I'm talking about well. I think she explains herself pretty
well in thirty three Michael.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
No matter what they come in with, whether it's depression, anxiety,
ADHD or whatever their complaints are, the first thing we
do is just take them off all screens for four
weeks and then see what's left. So their symptoms might
disappear completely. Other kids, you know there are symptoms might
be cut down and they still might have a diagnosis,
but they are functioning much better, and a lot of
(23:54):
times we can get away with not using medication, especially
for younger kids. You can see results really within a
few days.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But even with teams physically change.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
Yes, they start going to bed earlier, their mood is better.
Parents report that they are more engaged, they come out
of the room more, they're happier. So a lot of
these symptoms that look like they have ADHD or anxiety
or depression go away completely.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That is highly, highly troubling, it is, and yet it
is in a way good news. It's like we've figured
out why kids are dying of polio, and now we've
just got.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
To come up with a vaccine, for instance.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And I harken back to a story we were talking
about yesterday when we were discussing education in general and
how miserably failing it is in the United States. Government
schools ought to be torn down to the studs. Anyway,
this study that showed the more time students spent on
screens at school, the further their scores fell, and from
(24:55):
zero hours a day to one minute to one hour,
one to two hours, two to four hours, four to
six hours, six hours, et cetera. This is at school
schools that used high tech educational tools, and it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Uniformly clear the more screen time, the lower the scores.
Here's the graph in math, here's the graph in science.
Here's the reading scores. They're all exactly the same. And
they describe, as we mentioned yesterday, that the kids just
don't focus this. It's like they're watching a really boring
(25:32):
YouTube video and they're they're not into it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I wonder if they don't get any work done.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I wonder if it matters what you're watching on the
screen though, as opposed to just calling anything on a
screen screen time. Because I watched a lot of TV
in my life, my ability to pay attention didn't go away.
Like when I was twenty five years old and I
was watching lots of TV, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It didn't. It didn't affect my ability to read a book.
The stuff I do.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now looking at a screen does affect my lady to
read a book. There's something different. Uh, yeah, you know.
Some of the science behind this is crazy interesting. They
mentioned that when you read a real book, a physical
book of read from paper, each word occupies a fixed
physical location. They say, if you're reading a punt out
(26:19):
of this piece right now, this sentence exists right here,
and this spatial position becomes part of the memory.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You're forming.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
This is why readers often remember where in a book
an idea appeared, even if they couldn't recall the exact wording.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, that's you know, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's one of the things I don't like about the
kindle experience. I don't have that as well. Uh, remembering
where in a book to find something. Yeah, when I
read this, it was like a light bulb going on
in my head, because it's absolutely true. If I am
trying to remember an idea or a specific quote or
a dramatic passage of a book, I can see physically
(26:59):
where it is in the thickness of the book roughly
and where that stuff was on the page. It had
never even dawned on me that that was part of
the memory, but it's clearly true.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There's more on this in a moment or two.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Unless you force people, there's no way you're gonna bring
back paper books. And we need to force them, Jack,
We need to force people to read physical books so
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Remember that code armstrong at checkout. I feel like with
this conversation you need to discuss.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Realistic attempts to change things back or maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe maybe you can make crazy, violent, sweeping changes if
the laws are strict enough, rules are stricted off. This
is the disagreement we have. It's not a disagreement, it's
just a different difference in point of view every time
(28:58):
we talk about this stuff. I'm just I just care
about individuals, about myself and people I care about, and
people listening right now, societal change is so beyond anything
I can accomplish. I just you're right about your pessimism
one hundred percent, right. I just think since I can't
accomplish that, I'm going to try to accomplish this. I mean,
(29:19):
could you ever I could see this happening. I could
see us deciding that getting a smartphone.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Before you're eighteen is just a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And my kids, my especially my oldest, wouldn't need a
smartphone if all his friends didn't have a smartphone, your kid,
if all your if your kid's friends have a smartphone
and they don't it's it's a great disadvantage.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh sure, I understand that. Yeah, but if.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
None of them had it, I mean we all lived
without them. Fine, we figured out a way where to
meet Friday night at seven o'clock. Somehow we got the
word out. Yeah, yeah, agreed. It would become like you know,
you'd hear your your neighbor gave your kid bottle of
whiskey and the keys to the car.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You think they're insane.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It could happen so societally, I'm not optimistic. But so anyway,
back to the science of this stuff, which is so interesting.
You remember where in a book an idea appeared, even
if you can't recall the exact wording, But digital text
has no such stability. If you're scrolling through the piece
that I'm reading right now from on a computer phone,
the sentence first appeared at the bottom, Now it's near
the middle, a little soon vanish out of the top,
(30:24):
et cetera. And with no fixed location for ideas to
attach to a spatial scaffold that supports memory collapses. As
a result, reading from screens often triggers an unconscious shift
from deep comprehension to shallow skimming, which they can see
with scientific methods of watching your eyeballs, which is glancing, scrolling,
(30:46):
and extracting instead of truly reading, and they illustrate it visually.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't know if I believe this. Are you arguing
with science? Well?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I know, specifically, I could call her if I wanted
to a neuros scientist with a PhD who claims the
science says there's no difference between reading on a reading
a kindle book or reading a regular book and the
way you take in the information and absorb it. It
doesn't mean they're right, but I just intuitively I believe that.
(31:16):
Certainly I could, like I said, I recognize the part
of I don't remember wearing a.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Book, so that's something. But I don't know if I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I've read a lot of books both ways, and I
just don't know if I feel like I'm getting a
lesser experience.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They cite the fact that this exam, the PISA exam,
what is that it's an acronym. Clearly okay, so reading
Comprehension exam. The scores dropped so sharply after the test
moved online, and it's why the SAT when it went
digital in twenty twenty four quietly redefined reading comprehension altogether. Well,
(31:49):
you know, it's interesting as I'm arguing this because, like
much to our executive producer Mike Hanson's dismay, I like
everything printed out on paper.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I don't like going to a screen to get all
of our show stuff. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I hate looking at a screen and having it there.
I just like it physically, knowing where it is and
organizing it that way. It's easier for me to organize
in my mind physically than you know, something on a
computer screen. So I don't know, no, no, And I'm
all for science digging into this stuff. And heck you
think it's a it's an understanding you. Okay, you need
(32:23):
to take a break. Mail bag coming up in moments.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Awesome, stay tuned. Yeah, we'll talk more about this later.
But if you wonder if.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Your kid's addicted to a phone, if they have a phone,
take it away from them for a while and see
how they act. That's classic addiction behavior. Aha, my boothe
my mad like my phone even five minutes. Yeah maybe,
all right, more on this to come. There's a lot
to say. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
It's a little longish.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Maybe we'll get to mailbag next hour.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know. Uh, it's Joe Raffiti wrote this. He's
an academic of some sort. But I absolutely love this.
And I can't remember if I've read this before, but
if I did, it's in the wrong file.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You're gonna hear it again.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Socialists perform compassion, capitalists live it. That probably sounds insane
to people who've been in doctor Nadan to believe that
caring means redistributing wealth by force.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
But here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Capitalism requires you to care about other people's needs. It
asks of you, what problems can I solve? What value
can I create? What do people actually want and need?
Your success is directly tied to how well you serve others.
You can't force people to buy from you, you can't
coerce them into using your product or service.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I think the problem is socialism sort of promises there
won't be losers. Capitalism sort of guarantees there will be
winners and losers. Yeah, Socialism is a is a philosophy
for children and those who have yet to grow up
and recognize the way.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Human beings really are.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Mail Bag drops note mail bag at Armstrong and giddy
dot com Ah, Aaron Wright's Colonial is a good thing.
Look at this. There are thousands of videos from various
s whole countries where young men are exhuming old graves
for clicks and Facebook reels.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
This must stop.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh my Internet viral ghoulishness tagging up graves. I hadn't
heard this, messing with the bones whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh my god, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.
Stay tuned. I got to look into that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let's see non binary WTF Alonymous wrikes. A friend of
mine was purchasing a gun and filling out the federal
background check. You noticed that for gender they had three
options male, female, and non binary. Hoping they're using this
to weed out anyone who checks non binary, because if
you don't know what your sex is, there's not a
chance in hell you used to be allowed to buy
a gun.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Tell Trump to fix this. I will talk to him.
Tell Trump to fix this. Well To I saved this one.
I got this a couple of days ago. To I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
JT and Livermore says, I'm not against the notion of
ap doom metric. That's your percentage you think AI will
doom humanity, he says, but I also want to pair
it with the P salvation number. Sure, a superintelligence would
be something new and unproven, could go paar shape for mankind.
But it isn't as if we're one hundred percent shape
shape safe if AGI is never built. Look at all
(35:18):
the great threats that might happen if we never built
the AGI nukes in all their forms, bioweapons, super volcano eruptions,
economic collapse, climate apocalypse, smad Mark Zuckerberg, Democrat policies, sex robots,
good list. Maybe having an AGI is the only way
to deal with some or all of the pending disasters.
So when you tell me your p DO number P
doom number, also tell me the percentage likelihood that an
(35:41):
AGI would be necessary to solve protect us from things
too complicated or too difficult for us to solve on
our own aka r P salvation number. Interesting, great thought,
really interesting. Let's see we got thirty seconds. Oh dang,
it got a great baby vax email from a loyal
(36:02):
listener sleep listen, Danville. Maybe next hour I'll squeeze that
in baby's gonna have the hepatitis. I don't think that
the baby is where's the baby gonna get the appatitis.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Is it going to a whorehouse? No, it's not. It's
a baby. It's right here. It's been an odd thing
for a baby to do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
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