December 18, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Dynamic pricing
- Raccoon at restaurant
- Hecklers veto & free speech
- Grading our year
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty, Armstrong and Jetide
and now he Armstrong and Jetty a man who craves
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leisure donated fifty dollars. That's Joe's line. That's pretty fun. Yes,
I am that. More on the fundraiser for Scouts a
little bit later, go to Armstrong in getty dot com.
Did you know that Barack Obama was in office the
last time we've been this late in the NFL season
without a single division locked up, It's been over. It's
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been a decade since we've been this late in the
NFL season three weeks ago without a single division locked up,
and some of the most consequential games in ten years
coming up this weekend in terms of regular season football.
And I'll tell you a little bit about that if
you're at all a fan, or you if you're like
me and you kind of joined late in the season
and figure out what you know, what's exciting? Tonight's game
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is huge, like really huge. But more on that later. Okay,
great exciting. So I think we're all aware of dynamic pricing,
particularly if we use like Uber Left or one of
those ride shares. So we understand that, you know, when
the football game's getting out, it's going to be more
expensive to get yourself ride than you know, two o'clock
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and your average Tuesday afternoon. But it's much more widespread,
much more sophisticated than I think a lot of us thought.
We were all shocked when Wendy started doing this and
I got a like, well, they talked about it. I
got it like a twelve dollars Hamburger at six o'clock
one time, really.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Because they denied that they ever implemented it. M I
don't think that them is always twelve dollars. So there's
a little editorializing in this article. But for instance, the
word shady here. Instagram has been using a shady AI
algorithm that charges different prices to I'm sorry, instacart, different
prices do different customers on the same grocery item in
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the same stores without telling them, according to a new
study released by Consumer Reports and another organization earlier this week,
at a Target store in North Kanton, Ohio, for example,
the popular grocery app charged one customer two ninety nine
for Skippy Creamy peanut butter I eat organic peanut butter
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because I'm better than you, but eat your skippy if
you musk and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't like creamy. I like the nuts, I like
lots of peanuts in my peanut butter. I do enjoy
the crunchy myself.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so one customer got charged two ninety nine, while
other instacrt users paid as much as three point fifty
nine for the same jar picked up from the same
location the same day, the study found. And my question,
of course is how did the algorithm decide? What did
it use to decide to charge more to some people?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Will?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We will get to that in a minute. Let me
hit you with a couple more examples. It's not just instacart.
So called dynamic pricing practices have been used by the
ride shares Las Vegas, convenience stores, children's museums and zoos,
and even your local grocery stores. Whole foods, Amazon Fresh,
and Kroger have already rolled out electronic price tags that
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allow workers to raise shelf prices in a matter of minutes,
and Walmart said it's planning to add the tags two
thousands of stores by twenty twenty six, so you can
change prices on a you know, a pound of flour
or whatever minute to minute if you want.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow, and you could factor in so many different things
including price elasticity that you know, fank giving morning. Somebody
getting some flour off the shelf means they really made
a mistake and some flower bad and you can charge
more for it. Yeah, that's a great example.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, businesses have always adjusted prices to find the highest
amounts of customer will fork over like in a broad way. Now,
artificial intelligence, advanced algorithms, massive troves of user data are
allowing companies to be more exacting than ever quote. The
problem isn't that companies across multiple industries are using AI
for dynamic pricing or even surging surging pricing. The problem
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is more around transparency and trust. According to this consumer advocate,
Now we all have benefited from some variable pricing, like
discounts when you buy in bulk at Costco allows you
to compare Amazon prices to other retailers online, save money
on a plane, tickets and vacations if you book off season,
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that sort of thing. But they say the problem arises
when data collection and algorithms are used without customers knowledge.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ah, I feel like there needs to be a different
category for some of these things.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Different levels of objectionable. Yeah yeah, wait, here's a for example,
the Justice Department just settled the case against real estate
tech firm real Page, which I've never heard of, but
which allegedly used completely sensitive information that's a quote to
jack up rents for tenants. So they would dive into
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all the data they could get and figure out how
much money you got, But why are and whether they
can jack up your rent three hundred dollars instead of
two hundred for the guy next door?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But how is this much unless they obtained the information illegally?
How is this much different than you buy a car
and the guy sizes you up when you walk on
the lot, He looks at what you drove, he looks
at the way you're dressed. Maybe he makes some small
talk and figures out what you do for a living,
and you know, strikes a bargain based on that. What's
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the difference? And that's what car dealers always do, by
the way, and the most.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Brilliant descriptions of Freedman was terrific at this Milton Freedman,
the most brilliant descriptions about the free market emphasize the
fact that it's an exchange of information. You can instantaneously
know how much willing people are willing to pay for something,
how much they're willing to sell something for, and that
information moves at lightning speed through the market. It's all
about information. It's tough to fault somebody for.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And again, the.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Surveillance state pervasiveness of this is a little creepy, and
the secrecy is creepy. But if I walk into a
store and my neighbor, poor Jim, who we were joking
about earlier, walk into a store and they scan me
and say, this dude's here for stakes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He's gonna pay whatever the stakes cost.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Poor Jim over there may not buy a steak at
all if it's too high. So we're gonna stick Joe
and let Jim skate a little easier.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I don't know how you could complain about that, really,
people do jack.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Furious New Yorkers, for instance, have blasted the slot timeballs
that's a quote of Uber and Lyft for hiking prices
when subway lines are shut down during brainstorms, reportedly charging
eighty dollars for a ten minute ride to work.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's a little different. How so, oh I guess it's not.
I guess it's not. Well, I guess really, you know,
the more I think about it, no, it's not. It's
no different than the charging more because the football game
just got out.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, well here's well right, Yeah, here's a head
scratcher than a wtffor. People have been reporting being charged
higher Uber fares when using a personal credit card instead
of a corporate one. I don't know why that would be.
I would seems like the office. Yeah, I would expect scratcher.
Here's the wtfor advocacy group. Consumer watchdogs suggested and report
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a report that Uber might charge users more if they
have low phone batteries. The idea seeming to be the
customers are more likely to pay high prices when they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Oh, the company denies this. I feel like this is
being pitched to dumb people that don't understand the free
market in terms of being you know, this is something
you should be angry about. What this is pretty much
every interaction I've ever had when you're trying to buy something. Now,
you know, it'd be new that prices change on the
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store shelves on a minute by minute basis, but for
bigger items, the items that cost more that put more
of a dent in your in your net worth. It's
always been that way. I mean, that's the whole selling
a car, they size you up. Or if I'm selling
a car, I get a sense from the guy, you
know what he can afford, how desperate he is, and
you know how desperate am I to make the sale?
Or am I willing to wait and see who else
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I can get. I mean, all those interactions are going
on all the time, right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think people are a little offended by the information
imbalance because you know, you work that out through negotiation.
I'm not going to haggle with the cashier over the
price of my grapes and my you know whatever, paper towel.
They have much more information than I do. And if
they're charging the guy next to me, literally, the guy
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next to me five dollars less for a steak than they.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Are me, it pisses people off. Yeah. I don't know
if it should, but it does.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Cash registers at convenience stores in Las Vegas Casinos had
been raising the price of bottled waters, flavored drinks, sunscreen,
and candy, et cetera on a daily and even hourly basis.
Sometimes leaving the cashiers just as surprised as the.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Customers at the price. So we were at Caesar's Palace
and we got there kind of late, and we were eating,
and this is like ten o'clock at night, and we
were all just so thirsty. For some reason. I said,
I'll get three bottled waters. She said, that's thirty three dollars.
I said, thirty three dollars for three bottled waters. She said, yeah,
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they're nine to fifty piece. I said, we'll drink, we'll
find a fountain somewhere, we'll pass. And I wonder if
that was some sort of dynamic pricing. Are drinking and
been smoking cigarettes all day long, it's late at night,
they're thirsty, they don't pay anything. That had to be
dynamic pricing. There's no way at ten o'clock in the
morning they're charging ten bucks for a bottled water. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
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Speaker 1 (11:24):
Done this before. It's probably I don't know what I
think of this, but I've done it before, like dealing
with a car individual ort a car lot. Hey, how
you doing? You know, Okay, it's been a rough year,
but I need a car. You know, I'm not gonna
come up happy and do it well. You know, my
kid needs a liver and all these different things.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Wow wow, oh so more than they've got dozens of attractions,
children's museums, zoos aquariums. They use the software provider digit
x to power dynamic pricing based on everything from weather
to capacity constraints, and even Google Analytics search patterns. During
the week of June eight, for instance, the Seattle Aquarium
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offered out of state adult admission prices as low as
thirty seven to ninety five for dates later in the month,
and as much as forty six ninety five for walking
tickets that week.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See that just sounds like flat out free market capitalism.
I got no problem with yeah, as opposed to if
the airlines somehow are getting my information, because I don't
want any of my information out there. But you know,
like the agreements K Katie was reading last hour, Sometimes
you sign up for Netflix or whatever you're signed up for,
and they get to snatch all your information. You got
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no choice. But if the airlines you know, are getting information,
I don't want them to have and charging me based
on they know how much money I make, how much
I spend, I pay off my credit card every month,
blah blah blah whatever these I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't want them to have that information to start with. Well, yeah,
but you see you clicked on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I agree, Yeah, you know, I don't know. We got
to work that out somehow.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Because I know the airlines for the app users say,
for instance, hey, Joe's not real price sensitive, so let's
show him a Let's go ahead and show him that
higher price.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
See if he clicks.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
If not, maybe maybe we loadered a little bit when
he comes back. And so I've heard you should not
sign in, you should clear your cookies. But I have
so many subscriptions, so many things. Yeah, I don't want
to clear my cookies. Too much of a pain in
the butt.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Definitely, any thoughts on this text line four two nine
five KFTC and one of the most consequential regular season
NFL games in a decade tonight I can tell you
about that and other things on the way.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
By rec We don't know how this raccoon got there.
It was quite a large raccoon driving there as this
thing was grawling, kissing, scratching when it gets really coolse
not uncommon to get these calls for raccoons. They did
all the right things. They got medical care for the
person that got bit. He was taken to the hospital,
and I felt like I owed that to the person
that got bit, because his entire process for his treatment
relies basically solely on we get the salem or not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That was a nice restaurant where a raccoon fell through
the ceiling and then bit a guest.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So beautiful Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Yeah, really nice looking restaurant too.
You don't expect to be attacked by wild beasts at
that sort of establishment.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
How is dinner not dressed for it? For one thing? Well,
the gnocchi was a little soft and raccoon fell out
the ceiling and bit me in the neck. Good wine
list though, although somebody tried to grab the raccoon, I guess,
and that's when they got bit. Don't try to grab
a raccoon, jeez. Louise so raising money for Scouts this
week so more kids can join up the Scouts if
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the family doesn't have the money to do it. And
I love doing that. And we'll get to a total
a little bit later now, hoping it had one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars by the time we get off
the air today. Can we do it? It's not gonna
be easy. It's a tough one. May may have my
eyes might be bigger than my stomach or whatever. The
right saying would be had some good donations, give the
beavers a chance in for fifty dollars, right, Planet of
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the Beavers, We've had our chance. We blew it. Fifty
dollars from the ghost of Jack's rooster. That's right. I
shot a rooster because it bit my son. Oh oh,
blasted that things to smithereens because I jumped on my
son's back. And this is my favorite one hundred and
fifty bucks from it insists upon itself is one of
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my favorite land lines from Family Guy. So the huge
in imitation of a pretentious reviewer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. This
week's NFL slate is unlike any other and almost a
decade for the first time since Barack Obama was president.
We ain't gotten nobody who's locked up the division yet,
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which is kind of interesting. Part of it is because
last the participants in last year's Super Bowl, one of
them's out and the other one could be, which is
I don't remember the last time that happened. Dynasties are
good for sports, they just are. It brings in a
lot more people, and then that brings in people to
hate on the dynasty or whatever. But it looks like
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the Chiefs dynasty might be over and saying he got
a bunch of new teams. Huge game.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You notice Star Wars didn't have Darth Vader on screen
for ten minutes then he was gone.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You need a villain, you need a hero, you need
a villain. Sure, rams Seahawks tonight, listen to what is
at stake with this game all You wouldn't even think
that this could possibly happen. There's only three weeks left
in the season. It's not your older siblings Thursday Night Games,
says NBC News. What used to be a dumping ground
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for the league's less than elite matchups is now one
of the most important games in several years. Rams Seahawks
playing for the second time. The winner will not only
be first place in the division, but first place in
the NFC full stop, so you could have home field
advantage all the way through to go into the Super Bowl.
The loser will be in fifth place at best and
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enter a jumbled mess of whether or not they make
the playoffs. Wow. So that's tonight's game, Rams Hawks. So
that's kind of fun. Wow, it's going to have me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, my beloved forty nine ers are watching all of
this with great interest as they are already in that jumble,
but could win their way into the top and get
that buy all the way through the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's that close all across the NFL. It's fun. Do
they have Saturday games?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
This?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Are we to the point where you start having Saturday
and Sunday games?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think this Saturday. Oh, I love that. That's the
best time of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
L to games too. I think Bears Packers is that right? Yeah,
that's your localists.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Bears Packers is one of the other super big ones,
and Buccaneers Panthers. So those are your three super important
games for the whole playoff picture. So let's get a
total lone scouting gladys, can you roll the drums for
US one hundred and sixteen thirty four dollars? So there
you go. We started with an original goal to fifty
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early in the week, moved it to one hundred. Blue
pass that we're at one sixteen. Would love to get
to one fifty. A little later in the show, Joe's
going to get as trombone. I will get out the
footbal and we'll try to raise some with our fiddle
trombone duet that people love so much.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
What is a high school club in northern California have
to do with the murder of Jews?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We'll explain Armstrong and Geddy. Hold home, how y'all doing.
Ever since we had the conversation about cash for presents,
all the pressure's off for me. I'm going cash for
presents this year. I can't wait to tell my kids.
I think they're going to be thrilled at their current age. Wow, okay,
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glad to be of help. Yeah, I think they're gonna
love it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I suggested a stack of twenties in a band, like
it's a bank robbery movie or you know you're a
drug dealer, but you know, however you choose to present
it is up to you, certainly. Yeah, So Katie brought
to us a brief version of a story from a
high school not far from the radio ranch, in fact,
when I used to drive past over and over and
over again. Why don't you go ahead and hit us
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with the basics, Katie, and then I'll fill you in
on what's happening now.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
A student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California is facing some controversy, with some students
accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
A platform for civil dialogue.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They just had a meeting this week where there were
sixty speakers addressing the issue. Some associates said that the club,
which is associated with Turning Point USA, foster's division and
hate among students, while others emphasize the importance of civil
dialogue and healthy disagreement. One member of the club said,
since our first meeting, my friends and I have been
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verbally harassed, both in person and online, and it's extremely discouraging,
especially since we have felt unsafe all with the threats
that have also been made towards us.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you've got a student who created a petition that
the club should be removed from campus, said it has
over three hundred signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody,
says this student, but that does not cover hate speech.
We respect everybody where, you respect the officers, but we
wish that we had respect for our family and for
our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a
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couple of things. Number One, the Heckler's veto. In effect,
that group fosters a division in the school. Okay, so
the division is they have a right to be there,
but you don't like it. That's a you problem, that's
not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not going
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to use anybody's names in this because at the oldest
they're probably eighteen, and certainly i'd much much rather discuss
principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience
or harassment down on any actually young human beings. This
is an example of people on the left accepting the
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worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group than
claiming without evidence that they are horrible people that they
are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. Do not see
the evidence that any of these kids on campus engaged
in any hate speech or indeed that any reasonable person
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would think turning point USA does. The problem is on
the left, you label everything you don't like as hate speech.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Right, their metric for what's hate speech is different for
stuff on the right than it is for on the left. Obs. Yeah, obviously. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's like if you want to take something over, you
call it racist until you are in charge of it,
because everybody backs down.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, we've seen the examples over the last couple of years.
You can say from the river to the sea all
day long, and nobody calls that hate speech.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right right, which it clearly is. And by the way,
I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews
in just a minute. But the mayor of Beautiful Lincoln, California,
was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She
became a focal point of the discussion after an edited
video of hers speaking to the students circulated online carefully
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carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece
for the local newspaper explaining herself.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And how it was.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate
places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious. In California,
where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like
every class, and critical race theory and the rest of it.
But she points out this was a voluntary student led
club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the
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school district in California's equal access laws and the rest
of it. The school allows non academic clubs, LGBTQ clubs
for black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is
absolutely not acceptable according to the loud little self righteous flakes.
And she talks about her presentation, these students were largely respectful.
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My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe in,
why you believe it, having the courage to stand by
your convictions, and recognizing the differences in belief or opinion
do not equate to hatred.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, you gotta shut that down. Surely.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given
the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated
the discussion. Ugh, that is so typical. They went there
to dominate the meeting and try to shut it down.
Many questions centered on statements attributed to Charlie Kirk or
turning Point USA. I repeatedly clarified that I was not
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giving my own personal views to those questions, but rather
responding to questions about what mister Kirk had publicly stated,
while encouraging students to seek full context and make up
their minds. After the meeting, I learned that a student
had recorded me without authorization and later told classmates he
intended to use the video quote to take me down.
It was quickly distributed to media outlets, including the Sacramento
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b which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily
edited and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that
I said things I did not saying, grossly misrepresenting both
my intent and character. You know, I I gotta tip
my cap to California schools. You are teaching the kids, well,
they have really learned the art of crushing free speech,
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of demonizing anybody who disagrees with them and trying to
humiliate them publicly.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
They learned. I understand how young people come to this
idea that this might be a good thing. One of
my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchins, used to tell the story
about how when he was at Oxford and he was
a student, he and some other like minded students shut
down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got
into the electronics and turn off the microphone or something
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like that, and they just thought that was fantastic. But
when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite
of what we should do and decried that the rest
of his life. If you beat their idea with your ideas,
the Heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have.
We got to have free speech, et cetera, et cetera.
So I can understand how kids could come to that idea.
The fact that adults go along with it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right right, And she gives several more examples of just
brutal editing and context clearing.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So she appears to call M. L.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
King Junior a Marxist and appears to make statements about
a black pilot that she did not say. It's absolutely
outrageous and ugly and vicious, and it's so out of
the same catalog of demonizing Jews and making up, you know,
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various blood libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward
them without having a good conversation, without asking, hey, what's
this is it true?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What's your point of view? On this.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going
after conservative students. It's the opposite of education. It's the
opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that
any school would permit it to happen like this. You
need to step in right now, twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California, and teach the kids what the free
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exchange of ideas is about. That's what you're there for.
And be very, very very careful what you call hate speech.
By the way, the kids at this club have been harassed,
threatened online docks through fake accounts, and targeted simply for
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participating in lawful student club. Students have the right to protest,
they do not have the right to intimidate or harass others.
Lincoln School District, how hard are you working to figure
out who is docsing and harassing kids? That's Bruce, I'm
one hundred percent certain you have an anti online bullying protocol.
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Of course, do you enforce it now? Get started now?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Well, imagine if somebody was harassing a trans kid on
that me a completely different story.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Tell you what the left is a mob of angry monsters?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh you don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I would take a look at the angry monsters amongst
you and tell them, hey, that's not cool. It's not
in my power to stop leftists from being angry mobsters,
you know, the angry members of a mob.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But it is in yours. Maybe you get started again.
Today would be a good time. So I got a
number of things out there that have been shipped, and
you know, I'm hoping they get to various places on time,
and so I get emails all the time your UPS
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Speaker 1 (28:51):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
One more note on the Lincoln story. This the mayor
of Lincoln who spoke to the group. She talked to
Sacramento Bee reporter Jenna Pendleton, who is an Dalton. I
will name her and explain the context of several quotes
where she was not representing her own views. They asked her,
why would Charlie Kirk say this? And she said, well,
he might have meant blah blah blah. She clarified that
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context to the Bee reporter. That clarification was omitted from
the final coverage and the Bee contributing to a misleading narrative.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If
you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If
your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should
be able to do them in with their actual words.
You don't need to like leave stuff out or take
it out of context or make stuff up. It was
like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump Ifa. Trump's
(29:42):
as bad as you say is and he's pretty crazy.
Just use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
In such a way that it's completely a lie, right right,
everybody overreaches or somewhere going sure is a deep, deep
blue town no matter how red your town is. Within
your town, it's your local schools. Yeah, no kidding, that's
worth thinking about. We got more on the way if
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you got any comments on that text line FOURFTC.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And finally, in honor of the holiday season, McDonald's today
offered customers an egg McMuffin for two dollars. If you're
wondering what that has to do with the holidays, The
oil will last for eight nights, So it was, uh,
which sandwich did they get for two dollars. Michael McMuffin. Oh, McMuffin,
(30:40):
that's a pretty decent sandwich. I haven't had one of
those sausage cheese. I don't like those good I don't
think of it as particularly oily. No, I don't either. Well,
he's a a New York elitist who's gonna mock what we,
the regular people, like to eat. I don't approve raising
money for the Scouts, then I want to ask us
all about our grade for the Gladys's Chip Jar. Gladys's
(31:05):
Tip Jar was in for forty dollars to help out Scouts,
help more kids be able to join Scouts, to cover
the couple hundred dollars it costs to get started twenty
five dollars from cat Pervert. What was that? I don't
remember that story. We got a clipper on that, Katie.
Do you remember that one? Heg zets don't Hegzev's double
(31:27):
tap for one hundred bucks two hundred and fifty dollars
from Jack's Giraffe. Appreciate that? Oh you know what? We
never did pay off.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The discussion yesterday about why I've changed my mind a
bit on releasing the videotape okay, because the point was made.
I can't remember where I read it, but that it's
much much longer than I was picturing. It's not just
kerk blue. And then you see the smoke clearer than
guys on the wreckage than kerk blue. Again, it's I
don't know how long it is, but I could picture
(31:59):
it in including a fair amount of dialogue and I
don't know, maybe even information on the screen or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I know what all's on it. Do you have any
idea how some people saw it and said it was
the most horrific thing they've seen in public life, and
some people saw it and said it looks like all
the other videos.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
To me, I don't believe them for a minute, which
I take nothing from that description, you know what I do.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I respect Tom Cotton, and.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
He might be you know, edging his comments a little bit,
hedging his comments a little bit, but the Democrat was saying,
it's one of the most shocking things I've ever seen
in my life. There are a lot of things in
warfare that are horrifying, especially if you're not used to them.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
That just didn't mean anything to me. Back to the
donating to Scouting got one hundred dollars from a decent human.
That's pretty good. I like that. That's a good moniker
for yourself. You're just a decent human giving money to
a good outfit or a couple left. So let's get
a total glass roll your little drum roll. There you go.
She wears the cool little rock and roll gloves like
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which is pretty cool. Very Tommy Lee like, here's our total,
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It's fantastic. I shot my mouth off yesterday and said
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Speaker 1 (33:55):
Thank you very much. So I was just wondering. I
did this at the Christmas party yesterday. I went around
and ask everybody what they're raide was for the year.
Was just asking business wise? I don't I think I
just think for us. How about just life wise? What's
your grade for the year for your life? Michael? Your
life this year? How was it compared to other years?
You got to compare to other years? You can't use
like some starving kid in Africa or obviously you have
(34:15):
an A. God, That's what I was gonna go with.
I'd say overall a B plus, A B plus. Yeah,
that's good, Katie. I'm gonna go a minus. Okay, you
got pregnant this year. I did.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Not easy though not easy, A lot of good, lot
of rough, So we'll.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Go a minus. Okay, cool, Hanson, what do you give
your grade for the year for your life?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
A C?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Wow, Hanson coming into C. But that's not inflated grades C.
That's that's like just average year old school C. Yeah.
I guess see, I don't know if there's a story
behind that or what I remember. Uh well, i'll give
my grade. I would be probably a B plus a
minus B plus in there. I don't know why I don't.
(35:06):
I don't know what this is about my personality. I
have a I. I regularly say negative things and have
a negative outlook, but like for my own life, I
always think things are fine and gonna be okay. I
don't know why that is. And uh, other than the year,
my wife don't mean which I think I gave that
year a D or and F. I'm usually at a
B plus or a minus rough one.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your year,
exactly exacting in the grave, and then you can't say
what your grade is. Uh yeah, I've got you know,
it's funny. I've got to review the year in my head.
I gotta go a minus. It's been lovely in a
lot of ways. Some challenges and sadness and you know,
(35:46):
a little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's
it's it's been.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
A pretty good year personally. Yeah, but your your personality
would you ever go much lower than an A A minus?
Probably probably not. Well, it depends what happens. I suppose,
all right, you know the wife dumping you thing like
I mentioned. That's that's a tough one. Well, yeah, I mean, well,
there are a number of things that could happen. If
(36:10):
I lost my job and a tornado took my house,
I suppose that'd be a lower grade.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, I don't understand your question. Would I ever go
below a B minus? Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
If I got side gotten.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Used to lost the use of my legs, yes I would.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary currence?
Because you you said, Hanson c was just kind of
like your old fashioned graving, kind of an average year.
Well you're so, is your average year in A.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, definitely in your your solid B. If I was
to average out a bunch of years, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I feel like my average year is like a B
plus or A minus. I don't know what that means. Yea,
Hanson's a tough grader, he is you are a tough grater, Hanson.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, Well, maybe he needs to get on the air
and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's
your abuse that kept it from.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Being a B. I don't know the guy caused it
to be a C.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm just asking the here here. I learned this from Tucker.
I'm just asking questions. I'm not tacitly accusing people of things.
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Did you know that Barack Obama was in office the
last time we've been this late in the NFL season
without a single division locked up, It's been over. It's
(00:49):
been a decade since we've been this late in the
NFL season three weeks ago without a single division locked up,
and some of the most consequential games in ten years
coming up this weekend in terms of regular season football.
And I'll tell you a little bit about that if
you're at all a fan, or you if you're like
me and you kind of joined late in the season
and figure out what you know, what's exciting? Tonight's game
(01:11):
is huge, like really huge. But more on that later. Okay,
great exciting. So I think we're all aware of dynamic pricing,
particularly if we use like Uber Left or one of
those ride shares. So we understand that, you know, when
the football game's getting out, it's going to be more
expensive to get yourself ride than you know, two o'clock
(01:31):
and your average Tuesday afternoon. But it's much more widespread,
much more sophisticated than I think a lot of us thought.
We were all shocked when Wendy started doing this and
I got a like, well, they talked about it. I
got it like a twelve dollars Hamburger at six o'clock
one time, really.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Because they denied that they ever implemented it. M I
don't think that them is always twelve dollars. So there's
a little editorializing in this article. But for instance, the
word shady here. Instagram has been using a shady AI
algorithm that charges different prices to I'm sorry, instacart, different
prices do different customers on the same grocery item in
(02:11):
the same stores without telling them, according to a new
study released by Consumer Reports and another organization earlier this week,
at a Target store in North Kanton, Ohio, for example,
the popular grocery app charged one customer two ninety nine
for Skippy Creamy peanut butter I eat organic peanut butter
(02:32):
because I'm better than you, but eat your skippy if
you musk and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't like creamy. I like the nuts, I like
lots of peanuts in my peanut butter. I do enjoy
the crunchy myself.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so one customer got charged two ninety nine, while
other instacrt users paid as much as three point fifty
nine for the same jar picked up from the same
location the same day, the study found. And my question,
of course is how did the algorithm decide? What did
it use to decide to charge more to some people?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Will?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We will get to that in a minute. Let me
hit you with a couple more examples. It's not just instacart.
So called dynamic pricing practices have been used by the
ride shares Las Vegas, convenience stores, children's museums and zoos,
and even your local grocery stores. Whole foods, Amazon Fresh,
and Kroger have already rolled out electronic price tags that
(03:19):
allow workers to raise shelf prices in a matter of minutes,
and Walmart said it's planning to add the tags two
thousands of stores by twenty twenty six, so you can
change prices on a you know, a pound of flour
or whatever minute to minute if you want.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow, and you could factor in so many different things
including price elasticity that you know, fank giving morning. Somebody
getting some flour off the shelf means they really made
a mistake and some flower bad and you can charge
more for it. Yeah, that's a great example.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, businesses have always adjusted prices to find the highest
amounts of customer will fork over like in a broad way. Now,
artificial intelligence, advanced algorithms, massive troves of user data are
allowing companies to be more exacting than ever quote. The
problem isn't that companies across multiple industries are using AI
for dynamic pricing or even surging surging pricing. The problem
(04:17):
is more around transparency and trust. According to this consumer advocate,
Now we all have benefited from some variable pricing, like
discounts when you buy in bulk at Costco allows you
to compare Amazon prices to other retailers online, save money
on a plane, tickets and vacations if you book off season,
(04:39):
that sort of thing. But they say the problem arises
when data collection and algorithms are used without customers knowledge.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ah, I feel like there needs to be a different
category for some of these things.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Different levels of objectionable. Yeah yeah, wait, here's a for example,
the Justice Department just settled the case against real estate
tech firm real Page, which I've never heard of, but
which allegedly used completely sensitive information that's a quote to
jack up rents for tenants. So they would dive into
(05:17):
all the data they could get and figure out how
much money you got, But why are and whether they
can jack up your rent three hundred dollars instead of
two hundred for the guy next door?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But how is this much unless they obtained the information illegally?
How is this much different than you buy a car
and the guy sizes you up when you walk on
the lot, He looks at what you drove, he looks
at the way you're dressed. Maybe he makes some small
talk and figures out what you do for a living,
and you know, strikes a bargain based on that. What's
(05:46):
the difference? And that's what car dealers always do, by
the way, and the most.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Brilliant descriptions of Freedman was terrific at this Milton Freedman,
the most brilliant descriptions about the free market emphasize the
fact that it's an exchange of information. You can instantaneously
know how much willing people are willing to pay for something,
how much they're willing to sell something for, and that
information moves at lightning speed through the market. It's all
about information. It's tough to fault somebody for.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And again, the.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Surveillance state pervasiveness of this is a little creepy, and
the secrecy is creepy. But if I walk into a
store and my neighbor, poor Jim, who we were joking
about earlier, walk into a store and they scan me
and say, this dude's here for stakes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He's gonna pay whatever the stakes cost.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Poor Jim over there may not buy a steak at
all if it's too high. So we're gonna stick Joe
and let Jim skate a little easier.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I don't know how you could complain about that, really,
people do jack.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Furious New Yorkers, for instance, have blasted the slot timeballs
that's a quote of Uber and Lyft for hiking prices
when subway lines are shut down during brainstorms, reportedly charging
eighty dollars for a ten minute ride to work.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's a little different. How so, oh I guess it's not.
I guess it's not. Well, I guess really, you know,
the more I think about it, no, it's not. It's
no different than the charging more because the football game
just got out.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, well here's well right, Yeah, here's a head
scratcher than a wtffor. People have been reporting being charged
higher Uber fares when using a personal credit card instead
of a corporate one. I don't know why that would be.
I would seems like the office. Yeah, I would expect scratcher.
Here's the wtfor advocacy group. Consumer watchdogs suggested and report
(07:51):
a report that Uber might charge users more if they
have low phone batteries. The idea seeming to be the
customers are more likely to pay high prices when they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Oh, the company denies this. I feel like this is
being pitched to dumb people that don't understand the free
market in terms of being you know, this is something
you should be angry about. What this is pretty much
every interaction I've ever had when you're trying to buy something. Now,
you know, it'd be new that prices change on the
(08:23):
store shelves on a minute by minute basis, but for
bigger items, the items that cost more that put more
of a dent in your in your net worth. It's
always been that way. I mean, that's the whole selling
a car, they size you up. Or if I'm selling
a car, I get a sense from the guy, you
know what he can afford, how desperate he is, and
you know how desperate am I to make the sale?
Or am I willing to wait and see who else
(08:44):
I can get. I mean, all those interactions are going
on all the time, right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think people are a little offended by the information
imbalance because you know, you work that out through negotiation.
I'm not going to haggle with the cashier over the
price of my grapes and my you know whatever, paper towel.
They have much more information than I do. And if
they're charging the guy next to me, literally, the guy
(09:09):
next to me five dollars less for a steak than they.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Are me, it pisses people off. Yeah. I don't know
if it should, but it does.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Cash registers at convenience stores in Las Vegas Casinos had
been raising the price of bottled waters, flavored drinks, sunscreen,
and candy, et cetera on a daily and even hourly basis.
Sometimes leaving the cashiers just as surprised as the.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Customers at the price. So we were at Caesar's Palace
and we got there kind of late, and we were eating,
and this is like ten o'clock at night, and we
were all just so thirsty. For some reason. I said,
I'll get three bottled waters. She said, that's thirty three dollars.
I said, thirty three dollars for three bottled waters. She said, yeah,
(09:52):
they're nine to fifty piece. I said, we'll drink, we'll
find a fountain somewhere, we'll pass. And I wonder if
that was some sort of dynamic pricing. Are drinking and
been smoking cigarettes all day long, it's late at night,
they're thirsty, they don't pay anything. That had to be
dynamic pricing. There's no way at ten o'clock in the
morning they're charging ten bucks for a bottled water. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
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Speaker 1 (11:24):
Done this before. It's probably I don't know what I
think of this, but I've done it before, like dealing
with a car individual ort a car lot. Hey, how
you doing? You know, Okay, it's been a rough year,
but I need a car. You know, I'm not gonna
come up happy and do it well. You know, my
kid needs a liver and all these different things.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Wow wow, oh so more than they've got dozens of attractions,
children's museums, zoos aquariums. They use the software provider digit
x to power dynamic pricing based on everything from weather
to capacity constraints, and even Google Analytics search patterns. During
the week of June eight, for instance, the Seattle Aquarium
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offered out of state adult admission prices as low as
thirty seven to ninety five for dates later in the month,
and as much as forty six ninety five for walking
tickets that week.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See that just sounds like flat out free market capitalism.
I got no problem with yeah, as opposed to if
the airlines somehow are getting my information, because I don't
want any of my information out there. But you know,
like the agreements K Katie was reading last hour, Sometimes
you sign up for Netflix or whatever you're signed up for,
and they get to snatch all your information. You got
(12:36):
no choice. But if the airlines you know, are getting information,
I don't want them to have and charging me based
on they know how much money I make, how much
I spend, I pay off my credit card every month,
blah blah blah whatever these I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't want them to have that information to start with. Well, yeah,
but you see you clicked on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I agree, Yeah, you know, I don't know. We got
to work that out somehow.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Because I know the airlines for the app users say,
for instance, hey, Joe's not real price sensitive, so let's
show him a Let's go ahead and show him that
higher price.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
See if he clicks.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
If not, maybe maybe we loadered a little bit when
he comes back. And so I've heard you should not
sign in, you should clear your cookies. But I have
so many subscriptions, so many things. Yeah, I don't want
to clear my cookies. Too much of a pain in
the butt.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Definitely, any thoughts on this text line four two nine
five KFTC and one of the most consequential regular season
NFL games in a decade tonight I can tell you
about that and other things on the way.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
By rec We don't know how this raccoon got there.
It was quite a large raccoon driving there as this
thing was grawling, kissing, scratching when it gets really coolse
not uncommon to get these calls for raccoons. They did
all the right things. They got medical care for the
person that got bit. He was taken to the hospital,
and I felt like I owed that to the person
that got bit, because his entire process for his treatment
relies basically solely on we get the salem or not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That was a nice restaurant where a raccoon fell through
the ceiling and then bit a guest.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So beautiful Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Yeah, really nice looking restaurant too.
You don't expect to be attacked by wild beasts at
that sort of establishment.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
How is dinner not dressed for it? For one thing? Well,
the gnocchi was a little soft and raccoon fell out
the ceiling and bit me in the neck. Good wine
list though, although somebody tried to grab the raccoon, I guess,
and that's when they got bit. Don't try to grab
a raccoon, jeez. Louise so raising money for Scouts this
week so more kids can join up the Scouts if
(14:38):
the family doesn't have the money to do it. And
I love doing that. And we'll get to a total
a little bit later now, hoping it had one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars by the time we get off
the air today. Can we do it? It's not gonna
be easy. It's a tough one. May may have my
eyes might be bigger than my stomach or whatever. The
right saying would be had some good donations, give the
beavers a chance in for fifty dollars, right, Planet of
(14:59):
the Beavers, We've had our chance. We blew it. Fifty
dollars from the ghost of Jack's rooster. That's right. I
shot a rooster because it bit my son. Oh oh,
blasted that things to smithereens because I jumped on my
son's back. And this is my favorite one hundred and
fifty bucks from it insists upon itself is one of
(15:19):
my favorite land lines from Family Guy. So the huge
in imitation of a pretentious reviewer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. This
week's NFL slate is unlike any other and almost a
decade for the first time since Barack Obama was president.
We ain't gotten nobody who's locked up the division yet,
(15:41):
which is kind of interesting. Part of it is because
last the participants in last year's Super Bowl, one of
them's out and the other one could be, which is
I don't remember the last time that happened. Dynasties are
good for sports, they just are. It brings in a
lot more people, and then that brings in people to
hate on the dynasty or whatever. But it looks like
(16:01):
the Chiefs dynasty might be over and saying he got
a bunch of new teams. Huge game.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You notice Star Wars didn't have Darth Vader on screen
for ten minutes then he was gone.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You need a villain, you need a hero, you need
a villain. Sure, rams Seahawks tonight, listen to what is
at stake with this game all You wouldn't even think
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The loser will be in fifth place at best and
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Yeah, my beloved forty nine ers are watching all of
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It's that close all across the NFL. It's fun. Do
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This?
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Are we to the point where you start having Saturday
and Sunday games?
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Yeah?
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I think this Saturday. Oh, I love that. That's the
best time of the NFL.
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L to games too. I think Bears Packers is that right? Yeah,
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Bears Packers is one of the other super big ones,
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
What is a high school club in northern California have
to do with the murder of Jews?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We'll explain Armstrong and Geddy. Hold home, how y'all doing.
Ever since we had the conversation about cash for presents,
all the pressure's off for me. I'm going cash for
presents this year. I can't wait to tell my kids.
I think they're going to be thrilled at their current age. Wow, okay,
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glad to be of help. Yeah, I think they're gonna
love it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I suggested a stack of twenties in a band, like
it's a bank robbery movie or you know you're a
drug dealer, but you know, however you choose to present
it is up to you, certainly. Yeah, So Katie brought
to us a brief version of a story from a
high school not far from the radio ranch, in fact,
when I used to drive past over and over and
over again. Why don't you go ahead and hit us
(18:56):
with the basics, Katie, and then I'll fill you in
on what's happening now.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
A student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California is facing some controversy, with some students
accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
A platform for civil dialogue.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They just had a meeting this week where there were
sixty speakers addressing the issue. Some associates said that the club,
which is associated with Turning Point USA, foster's division and
hate among students, while others emphasize the importance of civil
dialogue and healthy disagreement. One member of the club said,
since our first meeting, my friends and I have been
(19:33):
verbally harassed, both in person and online, and it's extremely discouraging,
especially since we have felt unsafe all with the threats
that have also been made towards us.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you've got a student who created a petition that
the club should be removed from campus, said it has
over three hundred signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody,
says this student, but that does not cover hate speech.
We respect everybody where, you respect the officers, but we
wish that we had respect for our family and for
our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a
(20:04):
couple of things. Number One, the Heckler's veto. In effect,
that group fosters a division in the school. Okay, so
the division is they have a right to be there,
but you don't like it. That's a you problem, that's
not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not going
(20:27):
to use anybody's names in this because at the oldest
they're probably eighteen, and certainly i'd much much rather discuss
principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience
or harassment down on any actually young human beings. This
is an example of people on the left accepting the
(20:48):
worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group than
claiming without evidence that they are horrible people that they
are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. Do not see
the evidence that any of these kids on campus engaged
in any hate speech or indeed that any reasonable person
(21:09):
would think turning point USA does. The problem is on
the left, you label everything you don't like as hate speech.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Right, their metric for what's hate speech is different for
stuff on the right than it is for on the left. Obs. Yeah, obviously. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's like if you want to take something over, you
call it racist until you are in charge of it,
because everybody backs down.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, we've seen the examples over the last couple of years.
You can say from the river to the sea all
day long, and nobody calls that hate speech.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right right, which it clearly is. And by the way,
I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews
in just a minute. But the mayor of Beautiful Lincoln, California,
was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She
became a focal point of the discussion after an edited
video of hers speaking to the students circulated online carefully
(22:07):
carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece
for the local newspaper explaining herself.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And how it was.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate
places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious. In California,
where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like
every class, and critical race theory and the rest of it.
But she points out this was a voluntary student led
club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the
(22:42):
school district in California's equal access laws and the rest
of it. The school allows non academic clubs, LGBTQ clubs
for black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is
absolutely not acceptable according to the loud little self righteous flakes.
And she talks about her presentation, these students were largely respectful.
(23:06):
My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe in,
why you believe it, having the courage to stand by
your convictions, and recognizing the differences in belief or opinion
do not equate to hatred.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, you gotta shut that down. Surely.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given
the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated
the discussion. Ugh, that is so typical. They went there
to dominate the meeting and try to shut it down.
Many questions centered on statements attributed to Charlie Kirk or
turning Point USA. I repeatedly clarified that I was not
(23:40):
giving my own personal views to those questions, but rather
responding to questions about what mister Kirk had publicly stated,
while encouraging students to seek full context and make up
their minds. After the meeting, I learned that a student
had recorded me without authorization and later told classmates he
intended to use the video quote to take me down.
It was quickly distributed to media outlets, including the Sacramento
(24:03):
b which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily
edited and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that
I said things I did not saying, grossly misrepresenting both
my intent and character. You know, I I gotta tip
my cap to California schools. You are teaching the kids, well,
they have really learned the art of crushing free speech,
(24:24):
of demonizing anybody who disagrees with them and trying to
humiliate them publicly.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
They learned. I understand how young people come to this
idea that this might be a good thing. One of
my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchins, used to tell the story
about how when he was at Oxford and he was
a student, he and some other like minded students shut
down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got
into the electronics and turn off the microphone or something
(24:52):
like that, and they just thought that was fantastic. But
when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite
of what we should do and decried that the rest
of his life. If you beat their idea with your ideas,
the Heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have.
We got to have free speech, et cetera, et cetera.
So I can understand how kids could come to that idea.
The fact that adults go along with it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right right, And she gives several more examples of just
brutal editing and context clearing.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So she appears to call M. L.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
King Junior a Marxist and appears to make statements about
a black pilot that she did not say. It's absolutely
outrageous and ugly and vicious, and it's so out of
the same catalog of demonizing Jews and making up, you know,
(25:46):
various blood libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward
them without having a good conversation, without asking, hey, what's
this is it true?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What's your point of view? On this.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going
after conservative students. It's the opposite of education. It's the
opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that
any school would permit it to happen like this. You
need to step in right now, twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California, and teach the kids what the free
(26:22):
exchange of ideas is about. That's what you're there for.
And be very, very very careful what you call hate speech.
By the way, the kids at this club have been harassed,
threatened online docks through fake accounts, and targeted simply for
(26:46):
participating in lawful student club. Students have the right to protest,
they do not have the right to intimidate or harass others.
Lincoln School District, how hard are you working to figure
out who is docsing and harassing kids? That's Bruce, I'm
one hundred percent certain you have an anti online bullying protocol.
(27:06):
Of course, do you enforce it now? Get started now?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Well, imagine if somebody was harassing a trans kid on
that me a completely different story.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Tell you what the left is a mob of angry monsters?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh you don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I would take a look at the angry monsters amongst
you and tell them, hey, that's not cool. It's not
in my power to stop leftists from being angry mobsters,
you know, the angry members of a mob.
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Speaker 1 (28:51):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
One more note on the Lincoln story. This the mayor
of Lincoln who spoke to the group. She talked to
Sacramento Bee reporter Jenna Pendleton, who is an Dalton. I
will name her and explain the context of several quotes
where she was not representing her own views. They asked her,
why would Charlie Kirk say this? And she said, well,
he might have meant blah blah blah. She clarified that
(29:12):
context to the Bee reporter. That clarification was omitted from
the final coverage and the Bee contributing to a misleading narrative.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If
you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If
your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should
be able to do them in with their actual words.
You don't need to like leave stuff out or take
it out of context or make stuff up. It was
like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump Ifa. Trump's
(29:42):
as bad as you say is and he's pretty crazy.
Just use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
In such a way that it's completely a lie, right right,
everybody overreaches or somewhere going sure is a deep, deep
blue town no matter how red your town is. Within
your town, it's your local schools. Yeah, no kidding, that's
worth thinking about. We got more on the way if
(30:08):
you got any comments on that text line FOURFTC.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And finally, in honor of the holiday season, McDonald's today
offered customers an egg McMuffin for two dollars. If you're
wondering what that has to do with the holidays, The
oil will last for eight nights, So it was, uh,
which sandwich did they get for two dollars. Michael McMuffin. Oh, McMuffin,
(30:40):
that's a pretty decent sandwich. I haven't had one of
those sausage cheese. I don't like those good I don't
think of it as particularly oily. No, I don't either. Well,
he's a a New York elitist who's gonna mock what we,
the regular people, like to eat. I don't approve raising
money for the Scouts, then I want to ask us
all about our grade for the Gladys's Chip Jar. Gladys's
(31:05):
Tip Jar was in for forty dollars to help out Scouts,
help more kids be able to join Scouts, to cover
the couple hundred dollars it costs to get started twenty
five dollars from cat Pervert. What was that? I don't
remember that story. We got a clipper on that, Katie.
Do you remember that one? Heg zets don't Hegzev's double
(31:27):
tap for one hundred bucks two hundred and fifty dollars
from Jack's Giraffe. Appreciate that? Oh you know what? We
never did pay off.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The discussion yesterday about why I've changed my mind a
bit on releasing the videotape okay, because the point was made.
I can't remember where I read it, but that it's
much much longer than I was picturing. It's not just
kerk blue. And then you see the smoke clearer than
guys on the wreckage than kerk blue. Again, it's I
don't know how long it is, but I could picture
(31:59):
it in including a fair amount of dialogue and I
don't know, maybe even information on the screen or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I know what all's on it. Do you have any
idea how some people saw it and said it was
the most horrific thing they've seen in public life, and
some people saw it and said it looks like all
the other videos.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
To me, I don't believe them for a minute, which
I take nothing from that description, you know what I do.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I respect Tom Cotton, and.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
He might be you know, edging his comments a little bit,
hedging his comments a little bit, but the Democrat was saying,
it's one of the most shocking things I've ever seen
in my life. There are a lot of things in
warfare that are horrifying, especially if you're not used to them.
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That just didn't mean anything to me. Back to the
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That's pretty good. I like that. That's a good moniker
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Speaker 1 (33:55):
Thank you very much. So I was just wondering. I
did this at the Christmas party yesterday. I went around
and ask everybody what they're raide was for the year.
Was just asking business wise? I don't I think I
just think for us. How about just life wise? What's
your grade for the year for your life? Michael? Your
life this year? How was it compared to other years?
You got to compare to other years? You can't use
like some starving kid in Africa or obviously you have
(34:15):
an A. God, That's what I was gonna go with.
I'd say overall a B plus, A B plus. Yeah,
that's good, Katie. I'm gonna go a minus. Okay, you
got pregnant this year. I did.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Not easy though not easy, A lot of good, lot
of rough, So we'll.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Go a minus. Okay, cool, Hanson, what do you give
your grade for the year for your life?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
A C?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Wow, Hanson coming into C. But that's not inflated grades C.
That's that's like just average year old school C. Yeah.
I guess see, I don't know if there's a story
behind that or what I remember. Uh well, i'll give
my grade. I would be probably a B plus a
minus B plus in there. I don't know why I don't.
(35:06):
I don't know what this is about my personality. I
have a I. I regularly say negative things and have
a negative outlook, but like for my own life, I
always think things are fine and gonna be okay. I
don't know why that is. And uh, other than the year,
my wife don't mean which I think I gave that
year a D or and F. I'm usually at a
B plus or a minus rough one.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your year,
exactly exacting in the grave, and then you can't say
what your grade is. Uh yeah, I've got you know,
it's funny. I've got to review the year in my head.
I gotta go a minus. It's been lovely in a
lot of ways. Some challenges and sadness and you know,
(35:46):
a little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's
it's it's been.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
A pretty good year personally. Yeah, but your your personality
would you ever go much lower than an A A minus?
Probably probably not. Well, it depends what happens. I suppose,
all right, you know the wife dumping you thing like
I mentioned. That's that's a tough one. Well, yeah, I mean, well,
there are a number of things that could happen. If
(36:10):
I lost my job and a tornado took my house,
I suppose that'd be a lower grade.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, I don't understand your question. Would I ever go
below a B minus? Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
If I got side gotten.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Used to lost the use of my legs, yes I would.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary currence?
Because you you said, Hanson c was just kind of
like your old fashioned graving, kind of an average year.
Well you're so, is your average year in A.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, definitely in your your solid B. If I was
to average out a bunch of years, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I feel like my average year is like a B
plus or A minus. I don't know what that means. Yea,
Hanson's a tough grader, he is you are a tough grater, Hanson.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, Well, maybe he needs to get on the air
and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's
your abuse that kept it from.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Being a B. I don't know the guy caused it
to be a C.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm just asking the here here. I learned this from Tucker.
I'm just asking questions. I'm not tacitly accusing people of things.
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