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December 22, 2025 35 mins

Featured in Hour Two of the Monday December 22, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...

  • Conspiracy theories & the shapes they take...
  • Gender Bending Madness: Inmate attacked...
  • 2028 Olympics, affordability & rent control...
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Shoe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 4 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now back to the A and G replay.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
So we're in the midst of discussing a couple of
different pieces of thinking on conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Michael, why do you look so troubled?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Everything?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, everything's great. Actually, I'm just yeah, we're getting indigestion.
Are you eat enough California prones guilt? I'll grab some
Preme guilt. Yeah, there you go. All right.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
So, anyway, we're talking about conspiracy theories and the shapes
they take in the kind of ancient origins of them.
If you're just joining and joining them, maybe gravit y
podcast later.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm strung getting on demand.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
But the conspiracist worldview transforms chaos into drama and tragedy
into design. It restores meaning in a confusing world by
insisting that every disaster, every death, every downturn must have
a reason. The most enduring conspiracy theories, like those surrounding
JFK's assassination this is so interesting, often follow events that

(01:26):
feel too momentous to have been set in motion by
something as mundane as one mentally unwell individual. I get
that it's hard to deal with. Jamie Palmer, who's an
editor at Quillette. When the senior editors had he was
a conspiracy thinker for years.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
He's not anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
He noted that the idea of a communist misfit killing
an American president was an embarrassment to the New Left,
which he was part of. Unable to accept that a
unremarkable loaner could alter the course of history, many instead
turned to elaborate alternate explanations.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
And I like this so much, I clipped it.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Psychologists call this the proportionality bias, the belief that great
events require great causes. A solitary gunman feels arbitrary and small.
A hidden cabal on the other hand, restores symmetry purpose
in a sense of moral order. Yeah, the proportionality bias. Now,
this is where it really gets interesting. Long before our

(02:25):
modern variance, conspiracy theories were spread via word of mouth
in the Middle Ages. Jews were targeted in particular because
they lived among Christians, but apart from them, they were
marked by different laws, different rituals, and occupations were reviewed
as the people who had known Christ but had rejected him.
When a boy was kidnapped and murdered in twelfth century England,
the accusation that Jews used the blood of children and

(02:47):
their passover rituals began to spread across christiendom the original
blood libel, and during the Black Deaths, Jews were again
blamed for deliberately spreading the plague through the poisasoning of wells,
which led directly to pilgrims, meaning the slaughter of Jews
across Germany, France and Switzerland. During the Reformation, Martin Luther

(03:13):
produced texts of virulent anti Semitism, urging Christians to eject
them forever from their lands and raise and destroy their houses.
These stories of villainy served the function the United Christians
against a common enemy, blamed catastrophes like the Pandemics on
humans rather than complex systems that they didn't understand, and

(03:33):
legitimized violence, as well as the confiscation of Jewish property.
The specific change demons become globalists, which is, become elites,
and covens become cabals, but the psychology remains the same.
Conspiracy theories offer what old religions once did, moral structure,

(03:53):
belonging in the assurance that evil is real, identifiable, and conquerable.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The platforms have changed, but the pattern has not.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was listened to a podcast the other day a
topic I've talked about a lot before, the witch trials
of that period. At the time the printing press became popular.
It really drove the witch trials in that, like the
Internet now, you had printed material out there that anybody
could say anything they wanted, and lots of people believed
everything they read, and the whole witch thing spread. Forty

(04:25):
thousand witches they believe, were killed over many, many decades
during that period of time, but a witch it was
a full on conspiracy theory. Blaming is a discomfort with
the number of unwed women there were. Is a lot
of what it was driving it culturally.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
So the first real use of the printing press was
printing crap about witches. Yeah, if that don't tell you
everything you need to know about humanity, I don't know
what went.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So here's the interesting question.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I think, if you're thinking a man or a woman,
what's the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory?
I mean, because there are plenty of conspiracies, more than
one person working toward a despicable end.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We ain't got an illegal end.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
You got to give JFK people, certainly in the early
part a path. So it turns out the guy lived
in Russia, went to Cuba recently.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, come on, had been id'd by the CIA
in the midst of.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
The Cold War.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it's almost a stretch that he wasn't involved with
the Soviet Union somehow.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Right, Yeah, I would agree, I would agree there was
plenty of risks for that mail.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
But and then he gets murdered the next you know,
like two days later, So you can't ever answer any questions.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, come on, yeah, there was who was it?
Was it?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Neil Ferguson did a takedown of Darryl Cooper, was at
his name the fake historian that Tucker said was the
most important historian in America or something like that. A
point by point takedown of Daryl's reasoning about why the
Jews did this, and that why Hitler actually wanted blah
blah blah, and just utterly dismantled it. But in you

(06:07):
had to read the dismantling because the case Darryl Cooper
made sounds so authoritative, because he cites specific sentences from
specific documents or letters from one diplomat to a president
or something like that, and you need the explanation of why, oh,
that was like one sentence from one advisor who dissented

(06:30):
from the mainstream, and two sentences later he pointed out
why that probably wasn't true, but he thought the president
ought to be aware of it. That sort of thing.
It's you back to the whole incredibly frustrating notion that
if you're explaining.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're losing.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
It's very easy to make authoritative sounding claims that sound
very very reasonable, and you have to spend the time
to dig into them to debunk them.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And who has the time.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Especially, you know, given the deliciousness as Claire Layman responds
or described about conspiracy theories, and my final thought, it's
one of my favorite quotes from Aldus Huxley.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I've actually got a pinned to the studio wall.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
The surest way to work up a crusade in favor
of some good cause is to promise people they will
have a chance of maltreating someone, to be able to
destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly
and call your bad behavior righteous indignation. This is the
height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
That fits in with the witch trial thing. A lot
really allowed people.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
And anti semitism and uh yeah, and a lot of
Islamic fundamentalism. Right right before we take a break, Hey, Katie,
have you seen the video of the guy who rushes
on Ariana Grande?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I have? Wow? Have you seen that? Joe? Uh yeah,
I didn't think much of it.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I just saw an angle of it. Those different Well,
he didn't do anything, He just ran up and got
his picture taken.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But this finally crap. He's notorious for doing that at
red carpet events.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Just the point of claiming to have security at any event. Ever,
if that can happen, he ran God it looks like
twenty yards at least. He just kind of pushes past
the so called security guard who is probably making minimum
wage and had no weapon. If you want to get
to people other than the president, and that's even a question, well,

(08:28):
I was.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Gonna say, if the murder of Charlie Kirk and the
near murder of Donald J. Trump having convince you that
most security is security theater, I don't know what she has.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
So a level of concercurity you're gonna have for a
movie star who was walking on the red carpet for
some movie premiere apparently none a guy. If he'd wanted
to kill her, he could have absolutely unrepresent killed her
before anybody could have stopped her.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It wasn't even her security that got him off of her.
It was her co star that hold.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Her away around her that the security perimeter was wide,
The guy blows past.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's a perimeter with no effort whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, then gets all the way to her and has
his arm around the four foot ten eighty pound woman
to get his picture taken.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Right, And you know, the maybe the most troubling part
of all that is why would we need so much security?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Why are so many people intent on hurting other people.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Right as it wasn't that many years ago that you
could walk up to the White House and knock on
the door and walk in if you wanted to.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
We're debating whether teachers should have guns, and whether the
fences at the elementary school ought to be electrified, and yeah,
and a hundred others.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
What's a decay of our culture and society which I
was talking about last week, which I blame on Elvis
and the Beatles. I think it all fits together, the
long handles. So what brought it?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah or Jack your show
podcasts and our hot.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Links right now, it's a gender bending madness update.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
So I kept hearing about this thing called the Loco. Yes,
we're great. So the bloom is definitely off.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
The transgender craze as the number of young people identifying
as transgender has been cut in half in like two years.
Just utterly ridiculous, but the hits keep coming. First, some
encouraging news from the Olympics.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
The IOC will issue the band sometime early next year,
citing a new scientific review that found evidence men have
a permanent physical advantage over women athletes, even after hormone therapy. However,
the Guardian newspaper says the band could still be a
year out and that the IOC is facing pushback to
a possible ban on athletes who reported female at birth

(10:46):
but have male chromosomes and the same testosterone level as men,
also known as differences in sexual development. That would include
athletes like South Africa's casser Semenya, who won gold at
the London and Real Games before Track and Field's governing body,
World Athletics banned DSc athletes from competing as women in

(11:06):
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
A new study, you say that shows that men have
a permanent advantage even if they undergo it, the transitioning.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'll be darned it says here they're bigger and stronger
than women. I'll be damned. Good thing they did that
new study.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Meanwhile, in Atlanta, the poor cops are still trying to
figure out what woke, idiot policy they're supposed to be following.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Sarah Swinson is a regular at the Tucker Reed Kofer Library.
She says after she used the ladies room on October twentieth,
a decab police officer on hand for early voting confronted her.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
He says, excuse me, sir, so misjendering me right away.
If you're not a woman, that's obvious. This is a
police matter. There are women and little girls in there,
and I have to protect them.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
She says.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
It ended up causing a scene in the middle of
the library, and she tried to de escalate. The next day,
she emailed library staff, who she says, reached out to
the Cab County Police. And I asked a Cab County CEO,
Lorrain Cochran Johnson about all of this. She told us
the county supports the LGBTQ community, calling this a teachable moment.
The county further clarified their official position is for library

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patrons to use whichever bathroom aligns with their gender identity.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
This is well trod ground, I realized, but it just
occurred to me. What is the argument for why if
you got a penis but you feel like a girl,
you should be in the girl's restroom as opposed to
in the restroom where the.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Trans women are women. That's a woman right there. That's
all argument. But we all shouldn't. That man with the
low voice, Jack, that was a woman. That's my favorite
part of the report is just the reporter was so
matter of fact. She she was in the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
She and then Sarah I used the restroom, the woman's restroom,
like I've been for months. I mean, he says, excuse me, sir,
So look he misgenders me. He says, you're not a woman.
That's obvious. I said, how dare you? The poor little
lady was offended. That doesn't seem out a line to say.
I believe you're a woman, and I'll call you she

(13:11):
and call you by your name. You're a woman, but
you got a penis, So all the penises are in
one room and all the vaginas are in a different room. Suggested,
just have innis and auti's you call yourself whatever you want.
But that is giving too much ground to the transgender
radical gender seria crowd.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I won't do it.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's a decent middle ground, I suppose for a place
like Atlanta that's trying to be woke, but it's still
absolutely ridiculous. Anyway, again, ma'am, I'm sorry you were offended.
This is offensive.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Faith Blue hears okay.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Faith Smith was a twenty eight year old woman and
inmate at the Washington Correction Center. For women viciously attacked
a couple of months ago by a six foot four
inch male child molester, identify identifying as a transgender woman,
And of course Washington State puts men who claimed to
be women in women's prisons out of.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Some sort of psychosis.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
And here's a gal who spent some time in the
Central California Women's Facility in Chochilla, California, one of the
largest women's prisons in the country, and she's writing about
how she saw firsthand how critical single sex spaces are
for the safety and dignity of incarcerated women. And she
says one case still haunts me. A male inmate isolated

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in a men's prison for assaulting bunk mates was moved
into a women's cell with seven women. These women were trapped,
their voices ignored. This guy beat them, throw her to
the ground, punched and cooked her, kicked her relentlessly.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm horrible.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I thought this aspect of it would get taken care
of her with a lawsuit. I thought that that would
happen early on. Somebody would sue a state get like
a half a billion dollars because you put a dude
in prison with me, and that'd put it end to it, but.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
It hasn't yet. Takes a while.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
It takes a while the work its way through the system,
I would agree. And all the poor kids mutilated, they're
actually who are caught up in the social contagion.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
In the last several years.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
There are still a hell of a lot of them
that are struggling to convince themselves they did the right thing,
because to admit otherwise would be utterly heartbreaking for everybody involved.
And so that's part of the reason for the delay
in that sort of suit these and there have been
a handful anyway of the kids who got whisked along
the activist pipeline and got their body mutilated and castrated

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chemically and the rest of it, and now will regret it.
But those lawsuits will come. Got a couple more stories
for you. A federal judge is ruled that the Bureau
of Prisons, Oh this is a federal judge must provide
sex change procedures to a convicted pedophile who recently began
identifying as transgender. Brian Buckingham, forty seven, Morgan twenty one
years forty.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Seven just now determined. You know what I think I've
been chick. Oh down, I've been wrong for half a century.
Brace yourselves, folks.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
He sexually abused his own ten year old son and
produced child porn with the.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Boy, murder him put him to death.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Shortly before sentencing, Buckingham began identifying as nanny, love him
to be female, then put her to death, and in
court filings, the judge said they have to provide gender
affirming treatments like hormone therapy because his sexual dysfunction or
his dysphoriat worsened his depression in suicidal thoughts, and Magistrate

(16:25):
Judge David Crystal ruled that yes, that indeed tax.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Doll happily refer to her as her as we give
her the sodium pentathal.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Excellent. I love that idea.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
And finally, in disappointing news for New hampshiretes, the first
openly trans lawmaker in the United States who was hailed
as a trailblazer, is admitted to sickening child sex charges
involving young kids in a daycare. Former Democratic New Hampshire
Reps Stacy Marie Lawton, a biological male who identifies as female,
pleaded guilty to charges including child sexual exploitation of children.

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Boston federal court, faces up to thirty years in federal prison.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
You don't even want to hear what this guy did. No,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
He's sexually confused and sick. That's taken a couple of
different forms, including I'm a girl now, it's a mental disorder,
gender bending madness.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Update oh Rough.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
Lebron James and Steph Curry on whether they'll play at
the Olympics in Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight. Lebron James,
who will be forty three by that time, saying he
won't play. Steph Curry, who will be forty, saying it's
unlikely he'll play, but ads never say never. So there's
a stupid story for you.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
They teased all throughout the eb's Evening News last night,
and I stuck around to the end.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It worked on me the tease.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Lebron James and Steph Curry asked if they'll play for
the men's Olympic basketball team. You're not gonna like the answer,
and I thought, well, I assume you said that that
they're going to say no, but they're old, and I
was thinking of the Olympics if it were this year.
I'd forgotten that it's in twenty twenty eight, so it's
three years from now, they're already old. What a stupid story.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Who is that for?

Speaker 7 (18:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Ered you in, No basketball fan who wants America to
win the gold medal wants a forty three year old
Lebron and forty year old Steph Curry on the team.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
They're big stars.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Jack so Well, I like the tease where he said,
you're not gonna like the answer, because the answer is
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
ID like that answer. No.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
One of the problems with the whole thing is that
the top four players, four of the top five players
in the world are all play for other countries.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So when you about that, they've stolen our game. Time
to declare war.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
So I mentioned this yesterday essay in the New York
Times over the weekend about the whole affordability thing. The
a word that is going to be sold everywhere until
the next election, affordability, and both both parties want to
try to take the mantle on that and be the
champions of trying to make affordability better. That's what Trump's

(19:05):
working on every single day. This essay in the New
York Time, written by some fancy pants professor economists take
this idea.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
You're gonna argue about something that all economists say is
a terrible idea. Economists hate this idea, but it could
be a way out of the affordability crisis. Price controls,
oh lord, And it argues for why that would work.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Trying for the millionth time to push that fraud on
humanity unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
And they even in the headline put that economists have
decided this doesn't work, but let's try it again anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because it kind of sounds good. Who's with me?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
So I've assembled a handful of stories about price controls,
specifically in terms of real state and rent.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was funny.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I just found out that our remodel failed inspection. It's
no big deal because they'll fix it and it'll be fine.
But one of the things that the inspector said, now
you got to have this contractor has been doing this
or many many moons exactly where my house is.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Said I've never heard of that in my life.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
That is an example of what it's like to build housing,
you know, writ large.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
But anyway, just to get this out of the way,
it's funny.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
This Wall Street Journal headline hit me how building affordable
housing became the hottest game in LA And what happened
was the city decided we need more affordable housing, and
so they eliminated a lot of the BS red tape,
but only for quote unquote affordable housing, which means all

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units are for tenants who make no more than eighty
percent of the city's median income, which somebody decided was
the proper number. More places across the US are experimenting
with similar policies to cut red tape for affordable housing
and effort to ease their yawning housing shortages. Well what
about unaffordable housing or nice housing or luxury housing.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Well, let me just jump in as no, somebody knows
nothing about this. First listen to this story. So most
regulations are around safety, some sort of you gotta you know,
use this sort of wood or plaster or cement, and
the roof needs to be this high, and blah blah

(21:15):
blah and all these different sorts of things. You get
all the gazillions of regulations everything like that, and you're saying,
if it's to build a house for someone who doesn't
have much money, we don't need to meet this standard.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
But everybody else does.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, that leads me to believe that the standard is
not necessary in.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
The first place.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Well, or it's the environmental crap and cal Cornians are
familiar with how this works. Okay, environmental reviews don't exist
to protect in the environment. They exist so unions can sue
and demand to share the work and more money.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yes, my argument is the same if you're claiming it
was for the environment originally when you pass this regulation, well,
obviously it's not that important if you can waive it
for people under a certain income, right, right, So if
you want to build like a normal, regular development, it
takes you years, years and years.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
But if it's affordable housing, we'll cut all the red
tape and you can go ahead and build it. What
possible sense does that make anyway? Moving on to this
great piece by the editorial board at the Journal, how
to shrink housing supply in Los Angeles the city tightens
its rent control law, Good luck finding an apartment. Yeah,
economic laws supplying demand is simple enough, but LA is

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defying it again by tightening rent control laws in the
name of housing affordability. The result will be, as it always, always,
always is, fewer apartments and less affordable housing. City restricts
rent increases in properties built before nineteen seventy eight, which
for some reason is the golden year to the consumer
price index, and it can't even be more than eight percent,

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even if the price index goes at eight percent, and
the rent caps applied to about three quarters of the
multi family housing units in the city. So last week
the city Council wanted to voteed lower the cap to
ninety percent of the consumer price index, which a maximum
increase of four percent, so landlords will no longer be
able to raise rents to cover an increase in electricity charges.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
For instance. That means they'll have to.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Eat rising electricity rates caused by the state's destructive green
energy policies. But the in effect what happens is they
don't eat it because it's a fairly tight profit margin.
And so what happens is rent control discourages housing investment
and reduces supply. And if landlords can't raise rents to

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cover their costs, including repairs, insurance, and utilities.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
They won't maintain them.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
They won't fix the leaky pipes or water heater, forget
about upgrades, forget about new developments. It doesn't make economic
sense to do it, so you restrict a number of
new units to zero, and you make all the units
that exist crappier and crappier.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, there's no I don't have rental property, but there's
no way I would ever decide to do that if
I lived in an area where I don't get to
determine the rent regardless of what market demand is or
what you know, energy.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Costs to become or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Two more notes that I found really interesting. This one
is about a case.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
And then, of course, if you already own the property,
why would you try to compete to be able to
raise the rent If you're not allowed to, you just
well let it be crappy, all right.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
And if the city says, if you're unforeseeable costs in
the future go up ten percent, you can just raise
the rent four percent. Sorry, I'm thinking, no, I got
other places to put my money, because rental property is
risky in several different ways which we won't get into.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But no, that's just not nearly enough to justify the risk.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
So interestingly, there's a lawsuit going on filed in New
York City by building owners challenging the city's rent stabilization law,
which is similar to what we've been talking about.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
What they're saying is.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
That rent fixing an unconstitutional taking under the Fifth Amendment,
because you can't just find me without me violating the
lawn breaking a specific lawn and the rest of it.
So they're trying to claim that at making me charge
subnormal rent or sub market rent is an unconstitutional taking.

(25:20):
The courts have rejected that on a number of different occasions.
I was corresponding with our good friend Tim Sanderfer about that,
but he says, it's plainly clearly an unconstitutional taking.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
God always has been. Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
That's interesting. You shouldn't even have to get there though.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Again, like that headline in the New York Times, economists
think it's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's been looked at for years, these ideas.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I remember the Washington Post several years back said sorry Democrats,
but it's just true. Rent control doesn't work. And the
Washington Post laid out why for their readers it's just
a bad idea. I know you think it's a good idea,
and I don't blame anybody. I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I didn't do it. I was young first time I
ever heard it.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
But then when somebody explains you why it isn't well,
then you move on.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
So the Supreme Court has been edging closer and closer
to being sympathetic to this claim.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I certainly hope they come around.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Final example, this one again from New York City Matt Miller,
writing for The Free Press, Why New York City has
fifty thousand, fifty thousand ghost apartments, Mom Donnie's freeze. The
rent pledge misses the real problem, the rent that landlords
can charge often doesn't cover their costs. And of course

(26:37):
he's got to begin with a particular anecdote. Normally, it
doesn't take too long for landlords like me to renovate
in an empty apartment and list it so that new
people can move in and start the next chapter of
their lives. But since this particular apartment is rent stabilized,
laws that were passed in twenty nineteen essentially prevent me
from doing anything with it except shutting the door and
keeping it empty. Strict limits on rent increases under the

(27:00):
twenty nineteen laws have left an estimated fifty thousand apartments
like this one vacant across the city. Because the restrictions
on what landlords can charge for these apartments often don't
even cover the cost of maintaining them. They become like ghosts.
It's like they don't exist at all. And he goes
into how Mumdani is going to make it even worse,

(27:21):
and then he goes into some of the particulars of it.
But the point is, if you rent your apartment, you
will be losing significantly more over the longer term than
if you just leave it off the market and hope
that the rents change in two years I'm sorry, and
hope that's the laws change in two years or five

(27:41):
years or whenever. So you have fifty thousand plus empty
apartments because it makes more sense for the owner to
keep them off the market than to rent them thanks
to rent control.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
It is obscenely idiotic.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
It just sounds good to dope be young people who
listen to Mom Donnie and people like him.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
And it's been true forever.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I mean, as Jack said, it sounds good to young
people who don't understand how markets work, which is another
reason econ one oh one should be a required class
in every high school in America, if not middle school.
The easy Stuff or the simple stuff in economics. It's
super easy to grasp, and it's as true as anything
has ever been true. But people fall for the scam

(28:24):
over and over again because they think, Yeah, i'mvoting for
that guy because he's going to stick into those green
landlords and I can get a super cool apartment for
a lot less.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Than they're charging right now. Oh, it's too damn.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Everyone should come out of high school at least having
heard the arguments on both sides of price control, re
and control, that sort of stuff. But that's never going
to happen in government schools because the government crowd always
thinks this stuff is a good idea.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
The greatest illustration of this is and this is a
conversation we had a number of years ago with Tim
Santa Fer from the Goldwater Foundation about gouging and how
gouging is a good thing, like after a hurricane, And
it's like going to the end of the argument to
make it absolutely clear why rent control's a bad idea,
the idea being all right, after the hurricane Florida, chainsaws

(29:15):
are going for quadrupled or normal price. If I'm Joe's
chainsaws in Georgia, I'm loading up a truck with every
chainsaw I can beg, borrow and steal. I'm driving straight
to Florida to get those fabulous prices for my chainsaws,
which floods the market with chainsaws, because that's where people
need them the most, and the price drops almost immediately,

(29:36):
and the people who need the chain saws the most
they go ahead and buy them, and the goods flow
to where they're needed. Soon the price is level out
and everybody's fine. You put a price control on chainsaws,
can be no more. The Gavin Newsom has done this,
the freakin disingenuous lion idiot. You put a price control
on chain sauce. You can only charge ten percent more

(29:57):
than the usual price. Here, I am in Joe's Chainsaws
in Georgia. I'm sitting there in my my Georgia chainsaw store, and.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I'm not moving an inch. Why would I? So the
people in Florida can't get a damn chainsaw chain saw.

Speaker 9 (30:13):
That's right, well, guys, it is such a fessive time
in New York City, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Field greats. It's absolutely freezing out there. It is so
cold in New York City.

Speaker 9 (30:31):
On my way into work, I saw a squirrel pouring
hot coco on his nuts.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It is so cold in New York.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
I saw Wall Street stockbrokers putting with Zora and Mandani's cold.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
He's just wounding.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So I'd like pouring
hot cocoa and his nuts.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's often I can guess the funny donors like friends
of mine? Is this you, Michael, Now, it's got to
be Michaelangelo was in with fifty dollars Murkin me chindo Angelo.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
That sure sounds like you. Yeah, you're the one who
brings up the murkin and the chindo.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Anyway, they're in for fifty bucks to help Scouts, or
particular help kids join Scouts, which is what we're trying
to do. Jack's Heart of Eating Foundation for the Blind
Bland rather for the Bland Uh in for fifty bucks.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I like that one. Can you see my privates? Can you?
Kenya donated fifty bucks? Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya?
Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
This is my son once coming out of the uh
bathtub when he was like four years old. The way
little kids are so happy to be naked out of
the bathtub is dancing around the table.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Can you see my privates? Can you see my privates?
Ken you? Kenyon? Was can you see my privates?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Ken you?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Kenya? If he did it now, I'd have to get
him into some sort of home before the cops got there.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Where the cops got there, Miss South Carolina. People don't
have maps, don't eaten five hundred bucks. That's a full
balpin right there. It's cost a whale five hundred dollars,
though it's pretty good. Dolphins our whales, damn it? Okay,
and then we'll do it total here in a second.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Got a couple of emails of note that I thought
were absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
One we shared earlier, in which.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Al Nanymous was on a trip to the Northern Tier
Scout Camp boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, which I'll
bet is amazing. Pack your bugs, bray, but had a
scout with us who was, let's say, used to living comfortably.
Day two, some of the other boys wanted to go
ten miles that day. No way we can go that far,
the boy said, and talked us out of it. Day eight,
when we were out there pretty deep into Canada, had

(32:41):
tube days to be back at camp, and well, the
same kid said, well, what if we pushed it to
this lake out here? It was twenty six miles. He said,
we'll be able to see more before we get back.
When I asked him what changed, he said, mister Anonymous,
I'm never saying I can't do something ever.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Again, that's just amazing onspire.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I've heard so many stories like that, including from my
son's own leader with some of the older kids that
some of them are already Eagle Scouts. They did a
big hardcore thing where they actually had a pack mule
to get him down to this canyon out and they
were really struggling with the mule, and in the way
that the Scouts do. None of the adults stepped in.
They had to figure it out on their own. That's
part of the whole learning leadership, learning to be self reliant,

(33:25):
all that sort of stuff. And this scout leader and
my son's troop actually said you could see them grow.
He said, they came back, they almost looked taller coming
out of the canyon.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
So, and then we got this note from a good
man and a good friend of the show, Matt Delancerveer,
who was an Eagle Scout, and he realized that that
meant more on his resume, certainly to one boss, than
Bachelor of Science. And then he says, to earn the
rank of Eagle. A lot of people outside of Scouting

(33:58):
probably know about having to earn merit badges and needing
new camping.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Et cetera.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
What a lot of people might know not know about
is the Eagle Project. In the subsequent border review, the
Eagle Project is a massive organizational effort and the young
Scout is one hundred percent in charge. You need to
come up with the community service idea, get it approved
by several people in the Scouting organization as being big
enough and beneficial enough for the community. Then you need
to start planning. Contacting stores, vendors, organizations, explain your project,

(34:26):
convince them to donate often hundreds of dollars worth of materials,
depending on what the specific project is. You also need
to worry about getting enough people to show up and
donate their man hours to get the actual work done.
You also need to document everything you were doing pictures,
written descriptions to be able to present your project to
a border of view and explain it in detail with
the board, asking a bunch of different questions, all of

(34:46):
this being done by young fifteen to seventeen year olds,
and was by far the most daunting part of earning
my Eagle Scout. Needless to say, nothing in my four
years of college came close to teaching me world, real
world experience and responsibilities than my Eagle project.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Wow, that's interesting. I went to my first Eagle ceremony
a while back. I talked about it after I was there,
saw this kid that's in my son's troop get his
Eagle Scout and the story of the project, and then
like teachers and coaches and everybody that were there when
he got his eagle.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's really really cool.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
And kids need not get to the Eagle Scout level,
certainly to benefit enormously from scouting, but we want to
make sure every kid who wants to can and money
doesn't hold it back. So this is all about scholarships.
Got Armstrong e getdy dot com. The donate now button
is easy to find.

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