December 25, 2025 • 35 mins
Featured in Hour One of the Thursday December 25, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...
- New Spielberg Movie, Ukraine/Russia war & Venezuela
- Jack at HS BB Game
- DEI Still Not Understood/NFL
- Ai Will Replace Everyone, But are Wildly Inaccurate
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack arms Strong, Joe Getty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Strong, and Judge and He.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Arms Drawn Yay.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Live from studio. Say it's Christmas Day. I'm trying to think,
who's listening right now? Why are you listening to us
on Christmas Day? Don't you have some family to be
around or something?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I hope you're having a maybe you're on your way.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Don't It sounds like you're judging people on all the
days you're judging people. You have put bitterness under the tree.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
She seems weird that you're listening to us on Christmas Day.
I'll stop it. People are enjoying it right.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's a carefully cold, expertly put together the sequence. The
sequence is amazing. Maybe you're a strong Maybe maybe you're alone.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Maybe you're alone. Oh, for God's sake, it's an Armstrong
in giddy replay. Good morning, Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Let's take other's Today is today's what.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole world?
Guy guy O. When I went myself, what what is
happening there? What was that?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Can somebody get me some paper towel? I went to
h That is the trailer from the new Stephen Spielberg
UFO movie.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh what's a U? And that's what caused you to
lose control of your bowels.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's too scary, weird sounds freaked me out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You kept your bowels intact, you held your mud, but
your bladder gave way.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yes, indeed, the great Stephen spiel has turned his attention
to a scary UFO movie.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh I can't wait. I might go to the theater.
That could be good. Cool, my son is I'm used
to that sound.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Kay is freaking out, but you knock it off, send
me like chills down my spine.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh it was horrible. Did you watch Stranger Things, Katie?
I forget a few. I watched the first season and
then it kicked me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so you didn't make it far enough to these
dog like creatures that eat people and rip their throats out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's in season two. I guess my son listening.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
My youngest is making his way through it because he
heard all the good reviews of season five, so he
decided to try to catch up, and so he's really
into it. But lots of scary music like that and
creepy things happening and whatnot. There are plenty of actual
scary things happening in the world, like the war between
Russia and Ukraine, and where are we on the peace process? Well,
(02:58):
before I get to the New York Times article about it,
this is Mark Alprin's summary today in his news roundup.
Ukraine is in line to get much more robust security
guarantees that were in the first drafts of the peace plan.
Putin gets a lot of land bragging rights in a
return to the Community of Nations sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Everybody is tired of war.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Europe now believes that Trump isn't bluffing and that this
is the final act. Okay, that this is the final
effort by Trump, then he's going to wash his hands
of it if it doesn't go either.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Here's the problem though, As the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Points out, Ukraine plan calls for enhanced military with US
and European backup.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey, that's the headline.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The sub headline headline is the latest proposal is designed
to deter future Russian aggression. But Russia is not part
of the talks and has shown little willingness to negotiate.
Russia isn't even part of these talks and has shown
no indication zero. As I read the full article and
they get to later Putin's made no noise, you know
(04:00):
how often be well, we're willing to take a look
at that, or this is a proposal that you know,
there are kinks to work out, but we believe no, zero,
He's made no noises whatsoever that he has any interest
whatsoever in giving on any of these issues.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what are we talking about. This is insane. It's
a certain Major League Baseball owners. There's about to be
a huge workstoppage, I think after next season.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But it's like the owners have.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Gotten together with the league and the umpires and they've
all agreed that the players will play for free after.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They've made fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But the players haven't joined in these talks and have
made it clear over and over again they have no
interest in anything like that ever for the rest of
their lives. Nonetheless, the negotiations continue, to the New York
Times story, American and European diplomats meeting with Ukraine's leaders
over the past two days in Berlin have mostly signed
off on two documents that outline the security guarantees the
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officials said publicly and privately several European countries agreeing to
put troops on the ground. Still, a broad cease fire
appears to remain out of reach for the moment, in
part because Russia's not party to these negotiations.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What the hell are we talking about here? As you
just said, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What are we saying my marriage plan with what's the
what's the Nazi chick that's so hot right now?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Popular the Nazi jens chick.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's like me saying my marriage plans with Sidney Sweeney
are remain out of reach for the moment, as she
has no knowledge that I exist or interested in marrying me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, it's it's it's the same level of ridiculous.
But you keep making announcements about how it's coming along.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, My plans for the wedding are coming along fine.
We've now narrated down to several different caterers and the
type of ring iye planned to buy. The negotiations are
being held up by the way that she doesn't know
I exist nor has any interest.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't think you calling her the Nazi jens chick
is getting any close do a marriage either.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Wow, again, still the ceasefire remains out of reach for
the moment, in part because Russia is not party to
these negotiations. I don't understand this paragraph. And then it
says at the end of the paragraph where they talk
about you know, Land, this and that, and it says
Putin has indicated no flexibility at all on his demands. Again,
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what is this article about. I'm confused. The next paragraph.
You know, I've already said about the peace guarantees that
the United States and Europe has they're working out. They've
come very close to two agreements, the United States and
Europe on their peace guarantees for troops on the ground
and everything like that. Putin has stated previously he will
not accept the presence of NATO troop NATO country troops
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in Ukraine. Okay, so he's already said that's a no
go and has shown no indication of backing off whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I don't even understand what this article is.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I seriously, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
At least they should do us the favor of saying
clearly these two proposals all of the Russians have.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
They kind of made a proposal, but they could say
something about.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Clearly these two proposals have serious areas of conflict, and
each must be altered significantly before we can talk about
an agreement.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's really weird because these are smart people. The negotiators
are smart. The people further the writing for The New
York Times are smart. They're smarter and more sophisticated than
I am. Yet they've written this for the first time
in months. European officials said they're working well with American
negotiators and President Trump. The big breakthrough is that we
and europe are seeing eye to eye on this. But
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some European leaders hinted at lingering concerns that all the
diplomatic work with the Americans could be irrelevant if the
fundamental disputes between Russian and Ukraine cannot be resolved.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, you mean the two countries of war, the two
countries that are fighting the war. If they don't have
any agreement, this will all be meaningless. Yeah, I would agree,
and I'm no genius here, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
There's not no value in the Americans and Europeans working
out their differences in forming a united front. I mean,
obviously that's very, very important, but it just seems like
the headlines keep indicating that we're getting closer to an agreement.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I mean, one of the two documents lays out broad principles.
They amount to what two American officials and several European
diplomats said would be a commitment similar to NATO's Article
five guarantee, in which all member nations pledged to come
to the aid of any nation that is attacked. So
it'd basically be a NATO guarantee for Ukraine if they're
attacked by Russia. Again, we the United States of America
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and our friends are at war with Russia. Russia is saying, However,
of course I.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Ain't signing that. Not a freaking chance.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, this might just be signaling back and forth between
the side, But I don't know. It all seems very well,
very shaky. Doesn't even describe how shaky it is.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm honestly confused as to what
this even is all about.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They mentioned a lot of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Time and effort. Again, these are really really smart people.
Marco Rubio is no dummy. Donald Tusk poland no dummy
that these people aren't getting together taking time out of
their lives a week before Christmas because.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, just to go through the motions. They must
think it means something.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So you and the caterer have finally agreed on the buffet,
moving you closer to a final agreement with Sydney Sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Again, Sidney Sweeney yet to be aware of the existence
of the sixty year old.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Bald man, or more notably, has utterly and unequivocally rejected
the idea over and over again.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
My description is not close to right. She is aware
of me and has said you She's.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Done restraining order on multiple occasions and said you right.
There seems to be no budging on her feelings about
mister Armstrong. However, a caterer has been decided upon. Mister
Armstrong has announced a new development in the search for
a florist. Okay, great super's being a Warren Peace. We
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mentioned this quite early in the show today that President
Trump yesterday ordered a total and complete blockade of all
sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela, in a major
escalation of his pressure campaign against the country's leader, Nicholas Maduro,
the kamie Kleptocrat. Does Venezuela have the Cajones? The ill
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advised Cojones, if I might, you can't have ill advised pauls.
I mean, that's just that's a bad metaphor.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Sometimes I felt like mine were ill advised. Hmmm, give
bad advice anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is it even possible that the Venezuelans would like fire
on the US, say, now you're not grabbing our tankers.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That wouldn't be that wouldn't just that wouldn't be having cohonies.
That'd be stupid, right, That'd be suicide.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So clearly we are trying to squeeze their oil revenue.
Because every dictatorship democracies too, But dictatorships are a question
of money flowing to loyalists. You buy loyalty's that's it.
And if we can choke off their money supply, then
the generals who used to be rich, now they got
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their Mercedes payment and their big expensive villa and the
rest of it, and they got to pay for the upkeep,
and they start to think, you know, Maduro's the guy
in the past. The US is saying, if we're just
half reasonable, the party.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Can get going again. Maybe we talked to the Americans.
Is that what they hoped?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You suppose breaking news we've settled on a limousine company. Oh,
it is from the wedding to the dinner afterwards.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He still maintains that she'd sooner be dead than marry
mister Armstrong. But the limousine company is said to be
a reputable one four point eight stars on Google.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's the Armstrong Ngetty Show. My son was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Playing the drums at the high school basketball game, the
first time I've watched him do it at the basketball game,
and I hadn't been banned situation drum line, so it's
just all drums. But first time I've been inside a
small high school gym watching a game with all that
goes on with that in many, many decades, it hasn't
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changed a bit. Really, it was a lot more people
staring at their phones than the last time. Nobody was
staring at awesome equipment in their handback when the last
time I was in a gym. But other than that,
it was all the same, and I wish just weren't true.
I know this makes me a crazy person, but I
get just as uncomfortable. I was just as uncomfortable last
night being in that gym as I was when I
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was in high school. Myself and all the dynamics of
high school and everything that goes on with that and
everything and how much I hated it and how how
it just freaked me out. I feel exactly the same
way now, and it's it's some sort of PTSD, right,
it's got to because obviously I don't need to know
if the cool group thinks I'm got the right shoes
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on or anything.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Now, right, your.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Shoes are lovely, by the way, we're all just commenting
on what nice shoes you have.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Whatever the stupid moronic dynamics of high school are.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, it's absolutely anthropological.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's at the point that you're really becoming in charge
of keeping your DNA alive.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You take in data about.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What's a danger, what's good, that's bad, and it burns
permanent pathways in your head so you don't have to
be reminded of it.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Again just to survive.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's like, yeah, I wouldn't call being in the same
room with your your first love PTSDA good, But does
that bring on a flood of emotion? That's a good loan,
That's that's a pretty good. That's pretty good. It's per
charitable and pretty good, and it's so easy. I feel
like the spot. As I'm sitting there in the gym,
I can say, Okay, there's the cool group. They just
walked in.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Look at the like the the water's part as they
walked through, and everybody starre hated.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Them a little, didn't you. I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think I hated them. I don't think I
ever hated them. I was scared of them, but I
didn't hate them. Then there's there's the group that wants
to be them but not quite is. And there's the outliers.
They're kind of standing alone over there and they wish
they could be part of any group, and you can.
You can just see all the dynamics of high school
just right there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You're freaking everyone out. This is making me really uncomfortable,
which proves your point.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Now's your chance, Jack.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You see that cool group, you can tell them off, Like, listen,
you think you're so cool? See I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I never I don't. I didn't have that feeling. Then
I don't have that feeling.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Now tell them off for what?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How dare you be attractive and have good personalities and
good at something?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
How screw you?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, I didn't feel that way them. I don't
feel that way. That's healthy, that's right. You gotta tear
them down. Life is a zero some game. Their happiness
is your unhappiness. Look at your DEI training. If they
have something, it's because they stole it.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
There's no such thing as merits.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
There's a certain amount of happiness to go around there.
There was a particular guy and girl that walked in
high school. Guy and girl, and he was he looked
like a like something from a TV show, and she
was stunning.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And it was just like the attention they got.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
When they came over to the bleachers and kind of
just sat wherever they wanted.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Everybody moved out of the way. And it's just something
to say, what is it with human beings? I don't know.
The bears do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, they're sitting there eating their bears, overturning trash
cans or something. Then a really hot looking bear and
her big bear mate come along.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh my god, look at them. Yeah, he could be
a movie star.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You And they looked so comfortable and in charge of
the world, like things could never be better. And then
all the other people you could see the angst on
their face. So not all of them but certain groups
of people is just like you know, looking around and
trying to how should I walk, how should I sit?
How should I whatever? You know that goes on when
you're that age, just oh my god. I wouldn't go
through that again for any amount of money.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like observing a band of chimps in the forest lest
poo chuck in, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And I don't And one other thing before we got
to get to Katie's headlines.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
My brother was telling me about how like his daughter
is a super stud high school girls basketball player, and
he said, girls basketball is so much better now than
it was like when we were younger. It's different thing,
but so is the boys. I thought, this boy's high
school team. I don't know if my high school team
could score a basket on these guys. Has everything's just
gotten that much better because of youth sports or emphasis
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on sports or something.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But yeah, more professionalized. Everything's more professionalized. Games are not
to be played for fun, there to be excelled at
to gain of scholarship.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Maybe that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But it was a completely different level than the last
time I was in a high school gym, which was
a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It was in black and White.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I thought this is interesting if you're new to the show.
Jack and I both have railed long and hard against
critical theory and DEI. It's neo Marxism. We'll explain a
little more about that. It mascerades quite successfully, though, as
we just want everybody to get a fair shot in America,
and a lot of people think DEI actually is just
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we want more diversity. We want people to be able
to apply for jobs and get them. No, everybody wants
that DEI is in in cities plot that masquerades as
civil rights. Having said that, the headline the Journal America
is abandoning DEI, the NFL remains all in. Everyone from
the federal government of the Fortune five hundred are dialing
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back diversity efforts DEI efforts, but America's most popular sport
is standing its ground.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I'm not shocked by this. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't like the fact that journalism regularly fudges the
difference between DEI, which is a specific thing, and diversity,
acting like they're the same thing.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
They don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I honestly believe the percentage of Americans who understand that
that DEI is part of critical theory comes from the
Frankfurt School of philosophy. It's a method of taking over institutions. Essentially,
you call everybody a racist unless they agree with you.
Perhaps you went to a delightful training session where this happened.
And obviously, if you're a racist, according to the nice
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people who are running your DEI department, you can't be
in charge.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And so they get rid of you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They bring in somebody who believes what they do, which
is neo Marxism, equity, et cetera. DEI is Marxism. It's
not diversity.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That reminds me.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I read a great piece yesterday on how IBRAMX Kenny
is one of the great sisters of all time. Now
that his run is over, I think had to shut
down his anti racist institute. He got fifty million dollars
I think in donations from companies.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Never did anything. No people are falling all over themselves
to give money. I'm not a racist. Don't call me
a racist. Don't call me a racist.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And you remember, no matter how you intended what you said,
if I say you're a racist, you are a racist.
It's a method of capture, of taking over institutions. And
he and Robin DiAngelo in that whole ridiculous scam which
is still going on. They knew precisely what they're doing.
But back to my main point, I think a lot
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of people don't understand it. Yeah, I see even fairly
conservative publications, I still see people talk about DEI as
if it's just an honest and open hearted desire to have,
you know, like a black kid have the same opportunities
in America as a white kid. Again, everybody wants that
DEI is not that anyway. Having said that, back to
the journal thing, the NFL is a TV show. Never
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forget that it's an entertainment product from top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's not actually an effort to see which city has
the best forty guys to play.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Football hired bms.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, it's a TV show, and it is an incredibly popular,
profitable TV show, and a huge percentage of the cast
are young black men and are incredibly important to the
game and its popularity.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I've noticed that and given the fact.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That most people don't understand what DEI really is and
what it is not, including young black men who run,
you know, receiving routes and get tackled hard and stay
in incredible physical condition and memorize playbooks that would boggle
the mind of an MIT physicist. That they don't spend
a lot of time acquainting themselves with the subtleties of
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sociological issues is not shocking. So I get why Roger
Goodell has said, no, we're still up with diversity, up
with DEI, we're continuing all our programs. I get why
he does that. It annoys me, but I get it.
I thought this was more interesting and revealing. This is
a piece written by Callan Borcher's what happens when a
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former NFL player becomes your office coworker. And I've got
to admit I haven't thought about this much. Oh and
he mentions, did we find the audio, guys from the
two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That was twenty two years ago?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
A Super Bowl commercial featuring was it Terry Tait office
linebacker or something like that?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Do we have that?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh? Okay, if you saw the commercial, you certainly remember
it now. Absolutely hilarious. They hired a linebacker to root
out inefficiency at their office. It's kind of like Doge,
except if you weren't doing your job right, he would
level you wearing his football gear.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Anyway, back to the threat of the thing. I thought
this was super interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Turns out real NFL retirees who entered the business world
learned to make an impact in different ways. Quote Will Rackley,
a former offensive lineman for the Jaguars and Ravens. He's
a couple of months into a job as a business
operations analyst at the staffing firm Atrium. He said it
can be a culture shock when stepping into a corporate
setting as opposed to the locker room. But manager after
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manager was telling callum borchers that they struggle to recruit
people who can take and deliver candid feedback, especially these days.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We've all heard stories of the.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Snowflakes and the gen Zers and millennials gen zers especially
who if you say, you know that report wasn't quite
up to snuff, they will break down.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh my god, you're crutching my spirit.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I need a spirit day, I need a mental health day.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They have trouble with people that can deliver the candid feedback.
Though you smell funny, everybody's talking about it. See no,
not that sort of candid about job performance.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Specifically a lot of people, particularly given the first thing
I was talking about, people who can't take candid feedback
are extremely uncomfortable giving it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You gotta stop eating with your mouth open. You're gonna
make somebody kill you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, we're talking about business performance again. But former gridiron
pro accustomed to coaches who yell, cuss, and call out
mistakes in post game film sessions every week of their
careers is not likely to will to under a little
constructive criticism.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's funny. My son just said, this is his first
real sport. I think he's playing volleyball, he said. The
coaches telling at me all the time. I said, that's
what coaches do. Yes, good or bad, no matter what's happening,
the coaches yell at you. That's just that's the way
it works.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
This is the candid feedback we're discussing.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And while there are some truth to the cliche that
athletes can bring winning mindsets to business, it is actually
their ability to handle losing that stands out. According to
bosses and the former NFL players we're talking about are
like the vast majority you leave the game, not hall
of famers with set for life money. They are often
men who are pushed out of the game by injuries
or a younger, cheaper draft pick who could play about as.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, which is almost everybody gets in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, vast majority they've dealt with disappointment
and regrouped, said and, associate director of Non traditional Talent
Programs at Verizon.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
The ability to pick yourself up and get back into
the game is really what business is all about, and
he's found these guys to be much more resilient. I
don't they understand, Wow, that went badly. What can we learn?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't doubt that that should be focused on more
for all professional athletes, the vast majority of them. Even
if you've reached your dreams made it to that league,
you're gonna make a little money and be there a
couple of years, and then you're gonna go back to
regular life and you're gonna be twenty five years old, right,
and that'd be an interesting mindset. I was good enough
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to play in that league. I work my ass off
ten hours a day, like my whole life. But that's
over now and I'm only twenty five, and I gotta
do something different, right. But I think the other aspects
of it, because that's important, though, But the idea of
somebody well, they make another point. NFL players are completely
unfazed by the arduous process of interviewing for white collar
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jobs and or preparing for presentations and interviews and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's what they've done their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's a different skill set that they're preparing for, but
the idea of we're gonna have to go really really
hard to get rid or get ready for this one
particular meeting or something. They're completely in that mode. So
that was interesting. It also reminds me of the New
York Times. There's a great piece they did. Yeah, I know,
(26:08):
when they're not completely biased, they do really good journalism
once in a while. That the single most important characteristic
for a child to predict their success in life is resilience.
Can they are they afraid of failure? Or do they
understand it? It happens sometime. Let's plunge on number one predictor,
and I could see why NFL players would be really
(26:29):
good at that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Who was I talking to the other day that had
a meeting with their corporate person?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Whould I have been talking to? I don't talk to
anyone anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
They met with their corporate CEO for a major corporation
and they were having a discussion about AI, and I said,
what was the gist of it? And the gist of
it was, We're not going to need any of you anymore.
Who Ece this gets rolling And we've all heard this
sort of stuff. If you're paying attention to AI at all,
that all kinds of different jobs will go by the wayside.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And a lot of the jobs that were the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Most sure thing in our economy are the ones that
are going to be going first.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So that has everybody concerned. But we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
AI search engines cite incorrect sources at an alarming sixty
percent rate. A new study shows, so a lot of
people like me, when you google something, you're going with
the AI version at the top of the list for
the answer and thinking it's probably close enough. It might
(27:44):
not be that close. AI models incorrectly answered more than
sixty percent of queries about news sources. They have a
tendency too, and this has been an ongoing problem with AI.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Make stuff up. AI is like your five year old.
It just makes stuff up.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And you have to realize that if your five year
old comes in and says, you know, a kid named
Jimmy down the street punched me. Maybe that happened. Maybe
there is no Jimmy. They just said that for who
knows what reason. Not the way, that's the way AI is.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It just mixed stuff up.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But sixty percent is that what you said? Yes, hang
on a second, let me use my chet, get jack.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's almost half.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
They ran sixteen hundred corries across eight different generative search
tools and came up with that sixty percent number. Surprisingly,
premium paid versions of these AI search tools fared even
worse than certain respects. Perplexity Pro, which is twenty dollars
a month, and GROC three that's Elon's Thing, which is
forty dollars a month, confidently delivered incorrect responses more often
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than their free counterparts. For some reason, this is around
the news stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
So you pay for less accuracy. Yeah, all right again
around news stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I don't know if, like, for instance, gros claiming it's
good at that at Mostly what I see on GROC
is its ability to I don't know, create music videos
or pictures or or hot chicks in a cowboy hat
if that's what you want, or something like that. These
AI systems seem to be really good at that but
in terms of so, they would ask various questions about
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news stories, and GROC might give you a source that
wasn't the source, or make one up, or create a
link to the information that doesn't exist. It would just
make up a link. And they don't helpful, no, and
they don't seem to be.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, I'm unashamed.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
They know that they don't know why AI does this, right,
and as we've said before, they're not exactly sure if
it's fixable. But a I ain't gonna take over the
world if they can't figure that out.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I I don't see how that happens right right, It
could absolutely take over a significant number of professions sure
that are fairly limited in in scope. There's a great
piece in the journal about how high school and college
students especially are using AI to cheat always everywhere, all
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the time. Not every kid certainly, but man, they go
into all the different ways. They tell the story of
a seventeen year old girl in New Jersey. He uses
it all the time. She's only been busted once.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
She turned to open IA's open AI's Chat, GPT, and
Google's Gemini to help spawn ideas and review concepts, which
many teachers allow more often. Though AI completed her work,
she solved math homework problems and ace to take home
test chat GPT, did I.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Got a message for this kid, You're only hurting yourself.
That is both true and hilarious. Let's see chat GPT
did calculations for a science lab. It produced a tricky
section of a history term paper, which she rewrote to
avoid detection. And again, though she used it in virtually
every class, she only got busted once. Yeah, the math thing, hmm,
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that's a tough one because you probably not probably, I'm
sure this is true. I'm sure you can have AI
even show the work, and you could just write down
the work the whole show your work thing. Right, So,
but I was wondering about so if I'm writing a paper,
this would save a lot of time. And there's no
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way you'd ever bust me on this. This is just
where we are in the modern world. Hey, GROC, I
need a founding father saying something about the importance of borders,
and it finds me one and I don't have to
dig through twelve old timy books and go to the
index and read paragraphs.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's just right there.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I mean, that would be kind of cheating. It's certainly
easier than it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But yes, and there's absolutely a loss to the like
the indirect educational process because like it or not, as
you're looking for A, you'll also learn B and C.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's practically unavoidable.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And how could they stop you from running, you know,
having AI read over your paragraph and you know, make
it a little better.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And or just summarize everything very briefly. I mean, my
daughter's in law school, for instance, And a big part
of it is you read just reams of information, then
you outline it, you candense it, you you know, boil
the cons or the actual you know, the things that
happen in the case down to the concepts that you
need to remember.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Boil us down for me. I'll be at the bar
at Saint Patrick's day right exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And one more aspect of this problem, especially with academia,
is that the companies that make these tools are not
so keen on distributing the tools to identify when somebody
is using it to cheat, because students are their big
customer base.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Well, so they hem and haw about.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
We would like to release that to you, but oh
that's interesting right there. So I'm not trying to be
anti intellectual, but people have been saying this since I
was a kid, when computers, when calculators first came out.
What's the point of me learning this as long as
there's a calculator. Well that's really true now. I mean
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every if every homo sapian in America over the age
of five is carrying a computer that can do all
of this math work.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Is there a value in learning how to do it
by hand? In case you're on a desert island.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
There's something I don't know, Yes, there almost certainly is.
A neurologist could probably explain it to you that you
have a bedrock understanding of what you're doing and it
helps you in some way that I, as a politics guy,
can't really describe to you if I think you lose something.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I also think that's the modern world. To a
large rock or something is going to write everything. It's
gonna write your legal briefs, it's going to write up
your business proposal, it's going to write everything. Is there
a reason to learn to write.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
This? Is?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well? Wow, wow, that's that's insane.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And I mean not just to be like a successful
hulmost sapien. I mean, well, I do mean, I mean
to be a financially siglect. To make it in the world,
you just need to know how to run grock. Don't
you to be better at that?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Uh? Yeah, you need to write well enough to write
what you want and tell the computer.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Final note John B.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
King, a chancellor of the State University of New York
system former Education secretary, set at a conference in October. Quote,
there are probably lots of students K through twelve and
higher ed who used chet GPT to do their homework
last night without learning anything.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
They weren't learning anything in many cases before AI, so
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Also, this is the scary all the way around.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm checking out of the modern world. I'm telling you
starting some sort of weird fundamentalist. You know, society.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Tired of being in a good mood. Tune in the
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I hope you're having a maybe you're on your way.
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days you're judging people. You have put bitterness under the tree.
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She seems weird that you're listening to us on Christmas Day.
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Are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole world?
Guy guy O. When I went myself, what what is
happening there? What was that?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Can somebody get me some paper towel? I went to
h That is the trailer from the new Stephen Spielberg
UFO movie.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh what's a U? And that's what caused you to
lose control of your bowels.
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It's too scary, weird sounds freaked me out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You kept your bowels intact, you held your mud, but
your bladder gave way.
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Thank you for that.
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Yes, indeed, the great Stephen spiel has turned his attention
to a scary UFO movie.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh I can't wait. I might go to the theater.
That could be good. Cool, my son is I'm used
to that sound.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Kay is freaking out, but you knock it off, send
me like chills down my spine.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh it was horrible. Did you watch Stranger Things, Katie?
I forget a few. I watched the first season and
then it kicked me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so you didn't make it far enough to these
dog like creatures that eat people and rip their throats out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's in season two. I guess my son listening.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
My youngest is making his way through it because he
heard all the good reviews of season five, so he
decided to try to catch up, and so he's really
into it. But lots of scary music like that and
creepy things happening and whatnot. There are plenty of actual
scary things happening in the world, like the war between
Russia and Ukraine, and where are we on the peace process? Well,
(02:58):
before I get to the New York Times article about it,
this is Mark Alprin's summary today in his news roundup.
Ukraine is in line to get much more robust security
guarantees that were in the first drafts of the peace plan.
Putin gets a lot of land bragging rights in a
return to the Community of Nations sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Everybody is tired of war.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Europe now believes that Trump isn't bluffing and that this
is the final act. Okay, that this is the final
effort by Trump, then he's going to wash his hands
of it if it doesn't go either.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Here's the problem though, As the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Points out, Ukraine plan calls for enhanced military with US
and European backup.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey, that's the headline.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The sub headline headline is the latest proposal is designed
to deter future Russian aggression. But Russia is not part
of the talks and has shown little willingness to negotiate.
Russia isn't even part of these talks and has shown
no indication zero. As I read the full article and
they get to later Putin's made no noise, you know
(04:00):
how often be well, we're willing to take a look
at that, or this is a proposal that you know,
there are kinks to work out, but we believe no, zero,
He's made no noises whatsoever that he has any interest
whatsoever in giving on any of these issues.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what are we talking about. This is insane. It's
a certain Major League Baseball owners. There's about to be
a huge workstoppage, I think after next season.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But it's like the owners have.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Gotten together with the league and the umpires and they've
all agreed that the players will play for free after.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They've made fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But the players haven't joined in these talks and have
made it clear over and over again they have no
interest in anything like that ever for the rest of
their lives. Nonetheless, the negotiations continue, to the New York
Times story, American and European diplomats meeting with Ukraine's leaders
over the past two days in Berlin have mostly signed
off on two documents that outline the security guarantees the
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officials said publicly and privately several European countries agreeing to
put troops on the ground. Still, a broad cease fire
appears to remain out of reach for the moment, in
part because Russia's not party to these negotiations.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What the hell are we talking about here? As you
just said, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What are we saying my marriage plan with what's the
what's the Nazi chick that's so hot right now?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Popular the Nazi jens chick.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's like me saying my marriage plans with Sidney Sweeney
are remain out of reach for the moment, as she
has no knowledge that I exist or interested in marrying me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, it's it's it's the same level of ridiculous.
But you keep making announcements about how it's coming along.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, My plans for the wedding are coming along fine.
We've now narrated down to several different caterers and the
type of ring iye planned to buy. The negotiations are
being held up by the way that she doesn't know
I exist nor has any interest.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't think you calling her the Nazi jens chick
is getting any close do a marriage either.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Wow, again, still the ceasefire remains out of reach for
the moment, in part because Russia is not party to
these negotiations. I don't understand this paragraph. And then it
says at the end of the paragraph where they talk
about you know, Land, this and that, and it says
Putin has indicated no flexibility at all on his demands. Again,
(06:27):
what is this article about. I'm confused. The next paragraph.
You know, I've already said about the peace guarantees that
the United States and Europe has they're working out. They've
come very close to two agreements, the United States and
Europe on their peace guarantees for troops on the ground
and everything like that. Putin has stated previously he will
not accept the presence of NATO troop NATO country troops
(06:51):
in Ukraine. Okay, so he's already said that's a no
go and has shown no indication of backing off whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I don't even understand what this article is.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I seriously, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
At least they should do us the favor of saying
clearly these two proposals all of the Russians have.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
They kind of made a proposal, but they could say
something about.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Clearly these two proposals have serious areas of conflict, and
each must be altered significantly before we can talk about
an agreement.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's really weird because these are smart people. The negotiators
are smart. The people further the writing for The New
York Times are smart. They're smarter and more sophisticated than
I am. Yet they've written this for the first time
in months. European officials said they're working well with American
negotiators and President Trump. The big breakthrough is that we
and europe are seeing eye to eye on this. But
(07:47):
some European leaders hinted at lingering concerns that all the
diplomatic work with the Americans could be irrelevant if the
fundamental disputes between Russian and Ukraine cannot be resolved.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, you mean the two countries of war, the two
countries that are fighting the war. If they don't have
any agreement, this will all be meaningless. Yeah, I would agree,
and I'm no genius here, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
There's not no value in the Americans and Europeans working
out their differences in forming a united front. I mean,
obviously that's very, very important, but it just seems like
the headlines keep indicating that we're getting closer to an agreement.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I mean, one of the two documents lays out broad principles.
They amount to what two American officials and several European
diplomats said would be a commitment similar to NATO's Article
five guarantee, in which all member nations pledged to come
to the aid of any nation that is attacked. So
it'd basically be a NATO guarantee for Ukraine if they're
attacked by Russia. Again, we the United States of America
(08:48):
and our friends are at war with Russia. Russia is saying, However,
of course I.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Ain't signing that. Not a freaking chance.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, this might just be signaling back and forth between
the side, But I don't know. It all seems very well,
very shaky. Doesn't even describe how shaky it is.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm honestly confused as to what
this even is all about.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They mentioned a lot of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Time and effort. Again, these are really really smart people.
Marco Rubio is no dummy. Donald Tusk poland no dummy
that these people aren't getting together taking time out of
their lives a week before Christmas because.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, just to go through the motions. They must
think it means something.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So you and the caterer have finally agreed on the buffet,
moving you closer to a final agreement with Sydney Sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Again, Sidney Sweeney yet to be aware of the existence
of the sixty year old.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Bald man, or more notably, has utterly and unequivocally rejected
the idea over and over again.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
My description is not close to right. She is aware
of me and has said you She's.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Done restraining order on multiple occasions and said you right.
There seems to be no budging on her feelings about
mister Armstrong. However, a caterer has been decided upon. Mister
Armstrong has announced a new development in the search for
a florist. Okay, great super's being a Warren Peace. We
(10:25):
mentioned this quite early in the show today that President
Trump yesterday ordered a total and complete blockade of all
sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela, in a major
escalation of his pressure campaign against the country's leader, Nicholas Maduro,
the kamie Kleptocrat. Does Venezuela have the Cajones? The ill
(10:48):
advised Cojones, if I might, you can't have ill advised pauls.
I mean, that's just that's a bad metaphor.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Sometimes I felt like mine were ill advised. Hmmm, give
bad advice anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is it even possible that the Venezuelans would like fire
on the US, say, now you're not grabbing our tankers.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That wouldn't be that wouldn't just that wouldn't be having cohonies.
That'd be stupid, right, That'd be suicide.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So clearly we are trying to squeeze their oil revenue.
Because every dictatorship democracies too, But dictatorships are a question
of money flowing to loyalists. You buy loyalty's that's it.
And if we can choke off their money supply, then
the generals who used to be rich, now they got
(11:34):
their Mercedes payment and their big expensive villa and the
rest of it, and they got to pay for the upkeep,
and they start to think, you know, Maduro's the guy
in the past. The US is saying, if we're just
half reasonable, the party.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Can get going again. Maybe we talked to the Americans.
Is that what they hoped?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You suppose breaking news we've settled on a limousine company. Oh,
it is from the wedding to the dinner afterwards.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He still maintains that she'd sooner be dead than marry
mister Armstrong. But the limousine company is said to be
a reputable one four point eight stars on Google.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's the Armstrong Ngetty Show. My son was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Playing the drums at the high school basketball game, the
first time I've watched him do it at the basketball game,
and I hadn't been banned situation drum line, so it's
just all drums. But first time I've been inside a
small high school gym watching a game with all that
goes on with that in many, many decades, it hasn't
(12:53):
changed a bit. Really, it was a lot more people
staring at their phones than the last time. Nobody was
staring at awesome equipment in their handback when the last
time I was in a gym. But other than that,
it was all the same, and I wish just weren't true.
I know this makes me a crazy person, but I
get just as uncomfortable. I was just as uncomfortable last
night being in that gym as I was when I
(13:14):
was in high school. Myself and all the dynamics of
high school and everything that goes on with that and
everything and how much I hated it and how how
it just freaked me out. I feel exactly the same
way now, and it's it's some sort of PTSD, right,
it's got to because obviously I don't need to know
if the cool group thinks I'm got the right shoes
(13:34):
on or anything.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Now, right, your.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Shoes are lovely, by the way, we're all just commenting
on what nice shoes you have.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Whatever the stupid moronic dynamics of high school are.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, it's absolutely anthropological.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's at the point that you're really becoming in charge
of keeping your DNA alive.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You take in data about.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What's a danger, what's good, that's bad, and it burns
permanent pathways in your head so you don't have to
be reminded of it.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Again just to survive.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's like, yeah, I wouldn't call being in the same
room with your your first love PTSDA good, But does
that bring on a flood of emotion? That's a good loan,
That's that's a pretty good. That's pretty good. It's per
charitable and pretty good, and it's so easy. I feel
like the spot. As I'm sitting there in the gym,
I can say, Okay, there's the cool group. They just
walked in.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Look at the like the the water's part as they
walked through, and everybody starre hated.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Them a little, didn't you. I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think I hated them. I don't think I
ever hated them. I was scared of them, but I
didn't hate them. Then there's there's the group that wants
to be them but not quite is. And there's the outliers.
They're kind of standing alone over there and they wish
they could be part of any group, and you can.
You can just see all the dynamics of high school
just right there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You're freaking everyone out. This is making me really uncomfortable,
which proves your point.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Now's your chance, Jack.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You see that cool group, you can tell them off, Like, listen,
you think you're so cool? See I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I never I don't. I didn't have that feeling. Then
I don't have that feeling.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Now tell them off for what?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How dare you be attractive and have good personalities and
good at something?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
How screw you?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, I didn't feel that way them. I don't
feel that way. That's healthy, that's right. You gotta tear
them down. Life is a zero some game. Their happiness
is your unhappiness. Look at your DEI training. If they
have something, it's because they stole it.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
There's no such thing as merits.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
There's a certain amount of happiness to go around there.
There was a particular guy and girl that walked in
high school. Guy and girl, and he was he looked
like a like something from a TV show, and she
was stunning.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And it was just like the attention they got.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
When they came over to the bleachers and kind of
just sat wherever they wanted.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Everybody moved out of the way. And it's just something
to say, what is it with human beings? I don't know.
The bears do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, they're sitting there eating their bears, overturning trash
cans or something. Then a really hot looking bear and
her big bear mate come along.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh my god, look at them. Yeah, he could be
a movie star.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You And they looked so comfortable and in charge of
the world, like things could never be better. And then
all the other people you could see the angst on
their face. So not all of them but certain groups
of people is just like you know, looking around and
trying to how should I walk, how should I sit?
How should I whatever? You know that goes on when
you're that age, just oh my god. I wouldn't go
through that again for any amount of money.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like observing a band of chimps in the forest lest
poo chuck in, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And I don't And one other thing before we got
to get to Katie's headlines.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
My brother was telling me about how like his daughter
is a super stud high school girls basketball player, and
he said, girls basketball is so much better now than
it was like when we were younger. It's different thing,
but so is the boys. I thought, this boy's high
school team. I don't know if my high school team
could score a basket on these guys. Has everything's just
gotten that much better because of youth sports or emphasis
(17:03):
on sports or something.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But yeah, more professionalized. Everything's more professionalized. Games are not
to be played for fun, there to be excelled at
to gain of scholarship.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Maybe that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But it was a completely different level than the last
time I was in a high school gym, which was
a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It was in black and White.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I thought this is interesting if you're new to the show.
Jack and I both have railed long and hard against
critical theory and DEI. It's neo Marxism. We'll explain a
little more about that. It mascerades quite successfully, though, as
we just want everybody to get a fair shot in America,
and a lot of people think DEI actually is just
(17:47):
we want more diversity. We want people to be able
to apply for jobs and get them. No, everybody wants
that DEI is in in cities plot that masquerades as
civil rights. Having said that, the headline the Journal America
is abandoning DEI, the NFL remains all in. Everyone from
the federal government of the Fortune five hundred are dialing
(18:09):
back diversity efforts DEI efforts, but America's most popular sport
is standing its ground.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I'm not shocked by this. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't like the fact that journalism regularly fudges the
difference between DEI, which is a specific thing, and diversity,
acting like they're the same thing.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
They don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I honestly believe the percentage of Americans who understand that
that DEI is part of critical theory comes from the
Frankfurt School of philosophy. It's a method of taking over institutions. Essentially,
you call everybody a racist unless they agree with you.
Perhaps you went to a delightful training session where this happened.
And obviously, if you're a racist, according to the nice
(18:54):
people who are running your DEI department, you can't be
in charge.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And so they get rid of you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They bring in somebody who believes what they do, which
is neo Marxism, equity, et cetera. DEI is Marxism. It's
not diversity.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That reminds me.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I read a great piece yesterday on how IBRAMX Kenny
is one of the great sisters of all time. Now
that his run is over, I think had to shut
down his anti racist institute. He got fifty million dollars
I think in donations from companies.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Never did anything. No people are falling all over themselves
to give money. I'm not a racist. Don't call me
a racist. Don't call me a racist.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And you remember, no matter how you intended what you said,
if I say you're a racist, you are a racist.
It's a method of capture, of taking over institutions. And
he and Robin DiAngelo in that whole ridiculous scam which
is still going on. They knew precisely what they're doing.
But back to my main point, I think a lot
(19:57):
of people don't understand it. Yeah, I see even fairly
conservative publications, I still see people talk about DEI as
if it's just an honest and open hearted desire to have,
you know, like a black kid have the same opportunities
in America as a white kid. Again, everybody wants that
DEI is not that anyway. Having said that, back to
the journal thing, the NFL is a TV show. Never
(20:20):
forget that it's an entertainment product from top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's not actually an effort to see which city has
the best forty guys to play.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Football hired bms.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, it's a TV show, and it is an incredibly popular,
profitable TV show, and a huge percentage of the cast
are young black men and are incredibly important to the
game and its popularity.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I've noticed that and given the fact.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That most people don't understand what DEI really is and
what it is not, including young black men who run,
you know, receiving routes and get tackled hard and stay
in incredible physical condition and memorize playbooks that would boggle
the mind of an MIT physicist. That they don't spend
a lot of time acquainting themselves with the subtleties of
(21:11):
sociological issues is not shocking. So I get why Roger
Goodell has said, no, we're still up with diversity, up
with DEI, we're continuing all our programs. I get why
he does that. It annoys me, but I get it.
I thought this was more interesting and revealing. This is
a piece written by Callan Borcher's what happens when a
(21:33):
former NFL player becomes your office coworker. And I've got
to admit I haven't thought about this much. Oh and
he mentions, did we find the audio, guys from the
two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That was twenty two years ago?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
A Super Bowl commercial featuring was it Terry Tait office
linebacker or something like that?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Do we have that?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh? Okay, if you saw the commercial, you certainly remember
it now. Absolutely hilarious. They hired a linebacker to root
out inefficiency at their office. It's kind of like Doge,
except if you weren't doing your job right, he would
level you wearing his football gear.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Anyway, back to the threat of the thing. I thought
this was super interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Turns out real NFL retirees who entered the business world
learned to make an impact in different ways. Quote Will Rackley,
a former offensive lineman for the Jaguars and Ravens. He's
a couple of months into a job as a business
operations analyst at the staffing firm Atrium. He said it
can be a culture shock when stepping into a corporate
setting as opposed to the locker room. But manager after
(22:40):
manager was telling callum borchers that they struggle to recruit
people who can take and deliver candid feedback, especially these days.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We've all heard stories of the.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Snowflakes and the gen Zers and millennials gen zers especially
who if you say, you know that report wasn't quite
up to snuff, they will break down.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh my god, you're crutching my spirit.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I need a spirit day, I need a mental health day.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They have trouble with people that can deliver the candid feedback.
Though you smell funny, everybody's talking about it. See no,
not that sort of candid about job performance.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Specifically a lot of people, particularly given the first thing
I was talking about, people who can't take candid feedback
are extremely uncomfortable giving it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You gotta stop eating with your mouth open. You're gonna
make somebody kill you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, we're talking about business performance again. But former gridiron
pro accustomed to coaches who yell, cuss, and call out
mistakes in post game film sessions every week of their
careers is not likely to will to under a little
constructive criticism.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's funny. My son just said, this is his first
real sport. I think he's playing volleyball, he said. The
coaches telling at me all the time. I said, that's
what coaches do. Yes, good or bad, no matter what's happening,
the coaches yell at you. That's just that's the way
it works.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
This is the candid feedback we're discussing.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And while there are some truth to the cliche that
athletes can bring winning mindsets to business, it is actually
their ability to handle losing that stands out. According to
bosses and the former NFL players we're talking about are
like the vast majority you leave the game, not hall
of famers with set for life money. They are often
men who are pushed out of the game by injuries
or a younger, cheaper draft pick who could play about as.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, which is almost everybody gets in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, vast majority they've dealt with disappointment
and regrouped, said and, associate director of Non traditional Talent
Programs at Verizon.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
The ability to pick yourself up and get back into
the game is really what business is all about, and
he's found these guys to be much more resilient. I
don't they understand, Wow, that went badly. What can we learn?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't doubt that that should be focused on more
for all professional athletes, the vast majority of them. Even
if you've reached your dreams made it to that league,
you're gonna make a little money and be there a
couple of years, and then you're gonna go back to
regular life and you're gonna be twenty five years old, right,
and that'd be an interesting mindset. I was good enough
(25:18):
to play in that league. I work my ass off
ten hours a day, like my whole life. But that's
over now and I'm only twenty five, and I gotta
do something different, right. But I think the other aspects
of it, because that's important, though, But the idea of
somebody well, they make another point. NFL players are completely
unfazed by the arduous process of interviewing for white collar
(25:41):
jobs and or preparing for presentations and interviews and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's what they've done their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's a different skill set that they're preparing for, but
the idea of we're gonna have to go really really
hard to get rid or get ready for this one
particular meeting or something. They're completely in that mode. So
that was interesting. It also reminds me of the New
York Times. There's a great piece they did. Yeah, I know,
(26:08):
when they're not completely biased, they do really good journalism
once in a while. That the single most important characteristic
for a child to predict their success in life is resilience.
Can they are they afraid of failure? Or do they
understand it? It happens sometime. Let's plunge on number one predictor,
and I could see why NFL players would be really
(26:29):
good at that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Who was I talking to the other day that had
a meeting with their corporate person?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Whould I have been talking to? I don't talk to
anyone anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
They met with their corporate CEO for a major corporation
and they were having a discussion about AI, and I said,
what was the gist of it? And the gist of
it was, We're not going to need any of you anymore.
Who Ece this gets rolling And we've all heard this
sort of stuff. If you're paying attention to AI at all,
that all kinds of different jobs will go by the wayside.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And a lot of the jobs that were the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Most sure thing in our economy are the ones that
are going to be going first.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So that has everybody concerned. But we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
AI search engines cite incorrect sources at an alarming sixty
percent rate. A new study shows, so a lot of
people like me, when you google something, you're going with
the AI version at the top of the list for
the answer and thinking it's probably close enough. It might
(27:44):
not be that close. AI models incorrectly answered more than
sixty percent of queries about news sources. They have a
tendency too, and this has been an ongoing problem with AI.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Make stuff up. AI is like your five year old.
It just makes stuff up.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And you have to realize that if your five year
old comes in and says, you know, a kid named
Jimmy down the street punched me. Maybe that happened. Maybe
there is no Jimmy. They just said that for who
knows what reason. Not the way, that's the way AI is.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It just mixed stuff up.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But sixty percent is that what you said? Yes, hang
on a second, let me use my chet, get jack.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's almost half.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
They ran sixteen hundred corries across eight different generative search
tools and came up with that sixty percent number. Surprisingly,
premium paid versions of these AI search tools fared even
worse than certain respects. Perplexity Pro, which is twenty dollars
a month, and GROC three that's Elon's Thing, which is
forty dollars a month, confidently delivered incorrect responses more often
(28:47):
than their free counterparts. For some reason, this is around
the news stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
So you pay for less accuracy. Yeah, all right again
around news stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I don't know if, like, for instance, gros claiming it's
good at that at Mostly what I see on GROC
is its ability to I don't know, create music videos
or pictures or or hot chicks in a cowboy hat
if that's what you want, or something like that. These
AI systems seem to be really good at that but
in terms of so, they would ask various questions about
(29:17):
news stories, and GROC might give you a source that
wasn't the source, or make one up, or create a
link to the information that doesn't exist. It would just
make up a link. And they don't helpful, no, and
they don't seem to be.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, I'm unashamed.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
They know that they don't know why AI does this, right,
and as we've said before, they're not exactly sure if
it's fixable. But a I ain't gonna take over the
world if they can't figure that out.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I I don't see how that happens right right, It
could absolutely take over a significant number of professions sure
that are fairly limited in in scope. There's a great
piece in the journal about how high school and college
students especially are using AI to cheat always everywhere, all
(30:12):
the time. Not every kid certainly, but man, they go
into all the different ways. They tell the story of
a seventeen year old girl in New Jersey. He uses
it all the time. She's only been busted once.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
She turned to open IA's open AI's Chat, GPT, and
Google's Gemini to help spawn ideas and review concepts, which
many teachers allow more often. Though AI completed her work,
she solved math homework problems and ace to take home
test chat GPT, did I.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Got a message for this kid, You're only hurting yourself.
That is both true and hilarious. Let's see chat GPT
did calculations for a science lab. It produced a tricky
section of a history term paper, which she rewrote to
avoid detection. And again, though she used it in virtually
every class, she only got busted once. Yeah, the math thing, hmm,
(31:12):
that's a tough one because you probably not probably, I'm
sure this is true. I'm sure you can have AI
even show the work, and you could just write down
the work the whole show your work thing. Right, So,
but I was wondering about so if I'm writing a paper,
this would save a lot of time. And there's no
(31:32):
way you'd ever bust me on this. This is just
where we are in the modern world. Hey, GROC, I
need a founding father saying something about the importance of borders,
and it finds me one and I don't have to
dig through twelve old timy books and go to the
index and read paragraphs.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's just right there.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I mean, that would be kind of cheating. It's certainly
easier than it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But yes, and there's absolutely a loss to the like
the indirect educational process because like it or not, as
you're looking for A, you'll also learn B and C.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's practically unavoidable.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And how could they stop you from running, you know,
having AI read over your paragraph and you know, make
it a little better.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And or just summarize everything very briefly. I mean, my
daughter's in law school, for instance, And a big part
of it is you read just reams of information, then
you outline it, you candense it, you you know, boil
the cons or the actual you know, the things that
happen in the case down to the concepts that you
need to remember.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Boil us down for me. I'll be at the bar
at Saint Patrick's day right exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And one more aspect of this problem, especially with academia,
is that the companies that make these tools are not
so keen on distributing the tools to identify when somebody
is using it to cheat, because students are their big
customer base.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Well, so they hem and haw about.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
We would like to release that to you, but oh
that's interesting right there. So I'm not trying to be
anti intellectual, but people have been saying this since I
was a kid, when computers, when calculators first came out.
What's the point of me learning this as long as
there's a calculator. Well that's really true now. I mean
(33:22):
every if every homo sapian in America over the age
of five is carrying a computer that can do all
of this math work.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Is there a value in learning how to do it
by hand? In case you're on a desert island.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
There's something I don't know, Yes, there almost certainly is.
A neurologist could probably explain it to you that you
have a bedrock understanding of what you're doing and it
helps you in some way that I, as a politics guy,
can't really describe to you if I think you lose something.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I also think that's the modern world. To a
large rock or something is going to write everything. It's
gonna write your legal briefs, it's going to write up
your business proposal, it's going to write everything. Is there
a reason to learn to write.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
This? Is?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well? Wow, wow, that's that's insane.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And I mean not just to be like a successful
hulmost sapien. I mean, well, I do mean, I mean
to be a financially siglect. To make it in the world,
you just need to know how to run grock. Don't
you to be better at that?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Uh? Yeah, you need to write well enough to write
what you want and tell the computer.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Final note John B.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
King, a chancellor of the State University of New York
system former Education secretary, set at a conference in October. Quote,
there are probably lots of students K through twelve and
higher ed who used chet GPT to do their homework
last night without learning anything.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
They weren't learning anything in many cases before AI, so
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Also, this is the scary all the way around.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm checking out of the modern world. I'm telling you
starting some sort of weird fundamentalist. You know, society.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Tired of being in a good mood. Tune in the
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