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December 30, 2025 35 mins

Featured in hour one of the Tuesday December 30, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...

  • Jack Camp Guitarist/Trump Rough/China Robots
  • Sperminator Hangs Up Gonads
  • Zoe's Gut Health & Tony Sirico's Obituary
  • Caitlyn Clark's WNBA Impact & Class Action Lawsuit

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio and the
George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack arms Strong, Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong, and Jack cady Hee arms Strong and Strong.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
We are not long. We are still on vacation and yeah,
we're trying to recharge. We're trying to just everything ready
to go for a big NOOM twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
You know, I gotta get her name faces on. I'd
like to have a word with future Joe. You got
on the scale this morning. You said, oh my god,
what did you expect the way you've been eating on vacation.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
What did you expect? Answer me, Well, enjoy and don't
worry about it. You can lose it in the new year.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Enjoy some fabulous Armstrong and Geddy replay.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
So when I dropped my son off at Boy Scout
camp the other day at this lake, and they were
going to have to hike to their destinations, a couple
of mile hike. You have to take everything in with you,
so try to pack as lightly as possible. Blah blah
blah blah, drop them off or I load everybody up.
And this one kid brought a guitar and the Boy
Scout leader one of them said, you're sure you want

(01:07):
to carry that thing for a couple of miles. I said, yeah, yeah,
I really want to bring it. And you know, if
you've ever camped having a guitar around, if your guitar
player is really cool and you can sing songs, all
that sort of stuff. Anyway, we stopped for lunch. It's
a couple hour drive to this lake, and we stopped
for lunch at this little pullout and he gets his
guitar out and sets up a little thing, and he's
like thirteen years old, and he sets up a little
chair and he's sitting there on a log and he

(01:27):
starts in playing. And if I would have bet you
ten thousand dollars one hundred thousand million dollars, that wasn't
gonna hear what came out of his mouth as a
thirteen year old boy, Because I'm just wondering, you know,
what's a thirteen year old boy gonna play. He sits
down with his guitar. First of all, he's got an
incredibly low voice, and he says, I met her accidentally
in Saint Paul, Minnesota. He launches into a Johnny Cash song.

(01:50):
Immediately I'm like, what what me and one of the
other leaders was like unbelievable. I would have never guessed
that this was what was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Huh. He did several Johnny Cash songs and then put
his guitar away. I'll be danged, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
And he played better than me, which is highly disappointing.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh, that's so annoying, very very annoying.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You might be annoyed if you're really into the whole
pedo ring story. That is the reason a chunk of
you voted for Donald Trump. Some of you don't even
know what I'm talking about, because I only know because
I happen to know a couple of people that are
really into this story. Their big thing was, I mean,

(02:34):
they were all tweeting and texting each other leading up
to election day and Inauguration day. Finally it comes to
an end. They're all going to be exposed. The Clintons,
the Hollywood types, everybody who's been trafficking all these children
for sex all these years are going to get nailed
to the wall. And it's all tied in with Epstein

(02:56):
and he's a massad agent in blackmail and all these
different sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Right, it's a form of the Q and HO are
more like the Pizzagate.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Things just evolving, continuing to evolve, because that's the nature
of these things.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
And you might be disappointed if you're in that crowd
that Trump has come out so hardcore against you today
with truth social posts and a couple of different on
Mike things denouncing you and saying he doesn't need your
vote anymore. Here's the very latest from the Oval office.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
He said this was all a hoax. Has your attorney
Jediate told you this was a hoax? What evidence?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's not the Attorney General?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
No, I know.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
It's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been run
by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Ray
and these characters and koll me beforhim, and it's a
bad group.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It started.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Actually, look at the Steele dossier that turned out to
be a total hoax. The fifty one agency intelligence so
called intelligence agents, that was a hoax. There's only a
big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some stupid
Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net and so
they try and do the Democrats work.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I call it the Epstein hooks.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
The sad part is it's people that are really doing
the democrats work, the stupid people.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Wow, the most energetic Trump supporters I know would be
that group of stupid Republicans that fell into the net
doing the work of the Democrats he just talked about,
because they believe that story that your Attorney general and
FBI director and others were pushing for quite some time.

(04:32):
It wasn't democrats. I don't remember Democrats ever pushing this
child sex ring thing.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
No, when they're now doing the work of the Democrats
by undermining the Trump administration, saying, right, but how.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Does it tie in with Komi and russiagat and all
that sort of stuff, Well, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's not a great comparison. I mean, they're both false
and both you know, had just enough tidbit of evidence here,
evidence there that you could spin the yarn if your
James call me that, Yes, Trump is a secret Russian stooge.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So you hear the phrase in politics sometimes about when
Bill Clinton denounced a rapper that kind of went against
his own party, sister soldier moment. People call about it,
and it helped him bring people into support him from

(05:34):
the other side.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
This is like, well he was. He was proving I'm not.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Look, I'm left, but I'm not way out there right, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
I'm willing to denounce the crazies in my party.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Is this Trump's Sister Soldier moment?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, except that.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
The Epstein thing is so under the radar of the vast,
vast majority of people, whereas like rap and violent imagery
and anti American imagery, and in the case of Sister Soldier,
I think it was anti cop imagery.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's everybody's aware of that. That's like a hot top.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
This is so I mean, he's denouncing them so strongly.
It would be like, if, you know, assuming Biden wasn't
a mental patient, if Biden had come out and said, look,
these college students.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Marginal reminder, Kamala was the actual candidate, so yous Kamala.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Okay, if Kamala had come out and said, these college
students are crazy, They've fallen for a hoax that Israel
is perpetuating a genocide, I don't want their support. They're nuts.
I mean, it's that level of your biggest supporter, the
biggest supporters, you're calling crazies, your.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Most passionate supporters.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, it's uh notable. And you know
what's funny is I think the criticism of Pambondi and
cash Betellent Company is legitimate. Having led people way down
the garden path of the idea that there's something here
and we're getting to the bottom of it, just to

(07:17):
exploit them and keep them listening and watching them whatever,
and then just saying I've looked at the violin, there's
nothing there, so we're fine here, we're done, and thinking
that's gonna be good enough.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's just dumb.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
You don't understand how the way human beings behave you
needed to do better than that and explain why having
promoted the idea for the longest time, or in the
case of Pambondy freaking specifically said you had the client
list on your.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Desk, now you gotta do better.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Do you think she needs to step down or will
a lot of people say that.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't know. It's so hard to say.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Within Trump world, it's entirely possible. Yeah, but anyway, I
was working toward a point. Oh, that's absolutely. I think
they mishandled it. They had to do better. On the
other hand, I have no idea why Donald J would
be so harsh. He doesn't need a sister soldier. Moment

(08:14):
he's in office, he can't run again. He's just doesn't
care who he hurts and bruises with his words.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
It seems to me like he would have been better
off if he went with Look, I wasn't paying attention
to the Epstein thing, really, you know, throw Bondie and
patell or whoever you want under the bus. You know,
they were pushing this. I heard what they said and
I thought, wow, that's interesting, but I wasn't really paying
attention to it. It turns out there's nothing to it. Yeah,
they probably went too far, folks. And now they've seen

(08:46):
the actual facts and they realized there was really nothing there.
So they you know, they owe you an apology, right,
being as enthusiastic as they were.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, they didn't have the facts go with.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
They owe you know, apologies opposed to you're crazy and
I don't want your support anymore.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
And stupid stupid crazy is one thing, stupid is another.
You hate to be both. Yeah, it's it's just it's
bad politics. But nah, you can do whatever he wants.
That much is clear.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Okay, Well that's that story.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You're thinking this is over that dang story.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, I'm just interested in watching humans and just the psychological,
social political aspects of this.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I have no interest in the story itself, really because
I've I've learned everything I need to learn.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think about it. But right People Behave is so interesting.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's exactly what I thought it was. I assumed all
along they were saying this to get ratings and or
get votes, and there was nothing to it but change
a topic. I just want to get this story on.
It's a story about China and what they're doing around AI,
and now Trump gave the go ahead from Nvidio to
continue to sell the very best AI chips to China.

(10:06):
I'm not exactually sure what that's all about. I haven't
looked into it. But Chinese government they're working on AI too,
let's hear it.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
This whole robotic push comes at a time when the
Chinese government is making technology, including AI, a national priority. Already,
China's proven innovator, as we've seen with evs. Now it's
looking to dominate the field of AI enabled robots, and
the gap with the US is widening.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
According to Morgan Stanley, research.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
China is really pushing the envelope in all things leading
edge technology, and there are so many practical and also
strategic applications of AI and robotics combined.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Now, you said you saw the video of the Chinese
robot soldiers, and it was.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
It was not Chinese, it was they were are they're
the good guy soldier.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
All clots, but they're pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh, it's just crazy impressive.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
There will be a human being on a battlefield in
ten years.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
On CNN, I saw a thing about China's particular robot armies,
robot dogs, robot soldiers, robot they're actually they're presenting it
all as robot athletes, which is pretty clever. Yeah, we
just want to have the best robot athletes out there.
They're really strong and fast and could jump high and
run fast and have guns, and then we'll have guns
and they'll go from being athletes to being very athletic soldiers.

(11:33):
But they were damned impressive, and it reminded me of
and I keep mentioning this book, but I'm reading this
listening to this book about the end of World War
two in the Pacific. We were just dominating the Japanese
in that last year of the war before we finally won,
because we just had better technology. Our technology was so
much better than what they had. We're just literally blowing

(11:57):
them out of the water. But they couldn't. Our planes
could fly circles around their planes. Our intelligence was so
much better, our radars ability to reach out further than
they could. They wouldn't know where our fleet was, and
we'd show up because they knew where they were, and.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's how you win. I mean, you can care about
your country and be a patriot and that that matters.
See Ukraine. But the main reason Ukraine's doing so well
is their innovation and their their technology. And if China
ends up, you know, with way ahead of us, like
this person suggested an Ai, that's going to be a problem.
We defeated the Japanese so soundly, not because we're a

(12:32):
better well, it is because we're a better sent but
not because we're better people or more honorable or ethical.
It's because we we had the better technology to win
the war, right right, And I hope China doesn't have
that that report man, it.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Sound like they do, right, Sometimes you just have the
edge temporarily. But yeah, yeah, plenty of awful regimes have
gotten over because they had better war making tools. Yeah,
we need to at least be fighting them to a
draw in the AA stuff. I mean, it is so
obviously the future of warfare it seems silly to.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Even pointed out anymore.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
But you're gonna have unmanned aerial vehicles, unmanned aquatic vehicles,
unmanned men in the field, just and practically nothing but that.
It relates directly that farm story I was excited to
get into. Maybe we can do it tomorrow. But there's
not gonna be a damn person in your local farm field,
never mind dozens and dozens of people who oddly have

(13:27):
no immigration paperwork. Please, that's gonna be as yesterday's ville.
As as I said earlier, importing a bunch of Chinese
people to build the railroad, it'll be a historical curiosity.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
And soon, well, if you had a bunch of column
Ai soldiers robot soldiers, but they're various kinds of drones
early I suppose, and then you get a big battle
and the true drone armies meet, and then some of
them are hearing some on the ground. Some of them
look like dogs, some look like people, some of them
look like a half a tank or whatever. And then
they meet and then they have a battle. What do
we all just watch the video at the end say

(13:58):
huh we won or how we lost?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And then it boils down to manufacturing capability.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Against China?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
What like their army beats your army and then they say,
so do you want to super peace or what?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Because we just defeated your army.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Well, once we defeat all your machines, we're going to
come for your humans. So you got to just smash
up machines until everybody runs out of them, or one
side or the other runs out of them.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Then we say, all right, we're coming for your people.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Next you say, all right, all right, uncle, we can't
manufacture fast enough to keep up with you.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wow, that'll be something to watch.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Daddy show.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
A guy named dubbed the Sperminator is decided to hang
up his testicles after he's turning fifty.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You don't know this guy. You're wrinkling your eyes there
as a katie.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
My eyes at a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Story down.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm I'm taking a wait and see a posture
on this side.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
He was dubbed the Sperminator by the New York Post
due to his prolific sperm donations. He after more than
seventeen years of donating his swimmers to complete strangers and
generating one hundred and eighty one kids across five continents,

(15:23):
he's finally retiring. For some reason. He's a math professor
from New York. I think that makes you an incredible weirdo.
But you know people need that. So I suppose you
being the guy who shows up like every other day
with a sample for some weird reason.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, no, there's demand for him. Is probably a tall,
good looking math.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Professor, right, Yeah, that's part of it.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yes, the industry that says to him, you know, see
you Monday. You know we're going to need more for
more moms around the world old or are looking for tall,
good looking kids who are good at math.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
The whole things. But then they and I know there
is a need for that and all that sort of thing.
But the idea that I got one hundred and eighty
one kids out there that are not going to have
any of my parenting or any stories about my dad
and mom or just none of the you know, none
of that.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I just I think that's I hate that.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So are you against.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Sperm donation in general?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
No, I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean because if I had one kid out there
answering the description you just gave, that's a tragedy. Although
I know people who do have that information about the
sperm donator. When it's you know, a person who do
you know pass along that information or allow them to
get in contact, You're not going to get in contact.

(16:50):
Is he going to get in contact with one hundred
and eighty one different kids?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
That's not the nature of it, though, as long as
you have the medical information.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I don't I'm just saying I wouldn't want that. No,
I hear you, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I hate Do you have a whole bunch of little
mees out there with no me in no role in whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
We all hate that idea? Armstrong Andy Song and.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
Song and.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Arm Strong he yeddy thee Armstrong and yeeddy sho.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
You do have a celebrity death to mention, Polly Walnuts
from The Sopranos has died at the age of old.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I don't know how old he was with seventy nine
okay at dementia?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Did he ever find the Russian in the woods?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Is the question? Or did we hear from the great
Tony Currico what's his name? Yes?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Sure, laughing. He had a lot of great lines enough as.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
He did, and we'll work to get those for tomorrow's show.
Olli Walnuts has passed anyway. He was an actor, so
it was a great role, fabulous role. I thought this
was interesting. Andrea Peterson wrote this for the Wall Street
Journal about she's got on this program and I'm not
even aware of the stuff until I read about it.

(18:21):
But obsession with gut health I was kind of familiar with.
I'm actually interested in the science behind it, the idea
that we human beings are not an organism, We're actually
an ecosystem with millions of organisms living within us. It's
actually kind of interesting and aspiring after you get past
like an initial bit of oogeness. But everybody wants to

(18:45):
have healthy intestinal systems, and that includes having the gut
biome be in good shape. But so Andrew Peterson's writing
about this, and I wasn't familiar with some of this stuff.
They have these companies that you do all sorts of
testing and logging and reporting of what you're eating, and

(19:07):
then it gives you feedback on what you ought to
be eating and how, she writes, she failed the test.
She got a rating of poor, and she was really
disappointed on that. The whole week crackers I thought were healthy,
Maybe not so much for me. A breakfast of fruit
and granola, pretty middling, Zoe the service I used?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
All right, wait a minute, I got to stop there.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I find it so annoying that this gut health testing
counseling service just gives itself a friendly, approachable girl's name, Zoe.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
What the F do you do? Where's Zoe? Seriously?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
If you're so weak minded that that makes you more
likely to give them your heart earned money, well you
deserve to be parted from it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I find that so annoying, but I do. Why Zoey?
Why not Caitlin or Jenna or whatever else? Did it
just test better? Anyways?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
The things that set you off for Alarios.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's among a growing number of companies that offer medical
tests to people and provide them diet recommendations based on
the results. Many scientists believe diet guidance tailored to an
individual's biology will soon become commonplace.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Wow, I wonder if that's bs or if that's true.
Do we we're humans? Do we all need the same
diet or do we all have an individual diet.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
We should beat.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
There's a big national Institutes of Health study testing that
approach right now, the NIH. Do you remember the NIH?
They had a standing six feet apart and wouldn't let
the kids play in playgrounds. That doesn't mean they're necessarily
wrong on this stuff, let's see. So anyway, she goes
into how she was perplexed and bummed out at her

(20:59):
hurt test.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Dejected, I avoided looking at the Zoe app for months.
My editors still wanted a story, though, so I begrudgingly returned.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're weird person. This is your job, for one thing. Secondly,
you're not kind of interested in what Zoway's going to
tell you to eat.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
So, she says, I wasn't always diligent about logging my
meals in the app, but it identified some weak spots
in my diet. It also nudged me toward healthier choices. Still,
the relentless task of tracking what I ate could be
a joyless time suck. Here's how it went. And here's
the part that I found really interesting. This is the
reality of it Oka. It is principle like, is this

(21:39):
available to me today? If I Zoe on my phone
and I could start typing and everything I eat. Well,
it's a lot more than an app, as you're about
to find out, and there are quite a few of
them that are competitive. But a big yellow box arrived
on my doorstep containing an intimidating amount of paraphernalia. I
unpacked a few paces of medical equipment for testing day.
To prepare, I had to put together in a fix

(21:59):
the can tinuous glucose monitor or CGM to the back
of my arm. I could barely feel the tiny needle
that would stay lodged in my body for the next
two weeks. I answered a ton of questions in the
app about my health history and usual diet. After fasting overnight,
I ate the provided breakfast two pancake sized white chocolate
cookies so sweet they made my teethache. The cookies at

(22:23):
a generous amount of fat and added sugar. The point
is to stress the system. According to Belly's chief scientists,
stress the system. Lunch was two more cookies bright blue ones.
The color made it possible to record your gut transit time,
or how long it takes for food to travel through
the digestive system. That means you're on poop watch for

(22:45):
the so to speak yes when your pip turns blue.
For the microbiome test, I had to collect a stool sample.
Not pleasant, not even An even weirder test was the
DIY blood draw, which involved a button like gadget that
sliced a horizontal cut on my open upper arm.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
I returned my samples to Zoe via UPS so I'm
sure delighted to be carrying people's poop around America.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So I got to take a stool sample and then
have something jabbing me in the arm with a needle
to be told whether or not my gut biome is
up the snuff.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, they're actually two separate. There was the jabbing and
then the slashing. But for two weeks I logged everything
I ate at least every eight hours. I scanned my
continuous glucose monitor with my iPhone to record my blood
sugar levels. To get the CGM test kit, I had
to opt into being part of Zoe's ongoing research. The
test kit cost me two hundred and ninety four dollars,

(23:46):
and the required membership I chose.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Is twenty five bucks a month.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'd say that's a bar, I waited, that's a bargain
for getting jammed in the arm with a needle.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, cjam readings have long been essential for people
to tell you eaties would researches thin on how useful
the readings are for people like me who don't have it,
She said, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I just so, we just discovered this whole we're
a bioorganism gut hell thing fairly recently, at least I
don't remember hearing about it until ten years ago or whatever.
So everybody that lived before us, they were all doing
it wrong, not knowing their gut biome and just eating
whatever they ate back when people were thin, by the way,

(24:28):
back when everybody was thinner. But that was also back
when people were eating the obvious lean meats and fruit
and vegetables and basic grains, unrefined food, unfactory processed stuff,
stuff we'd been evolved.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
To eat from millions of years. Yeah, and when she
logged in what she ate, she got a food score
and a meal score. Plain unsalted almonds neared to perfect
one hundred, black beans ninety one. Bacon got a nine
in the cupcake I grabbed it a work meeting, a
lowly nineteen. Wait a minute, A cupcakes better than bacon?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
What is the higher number better?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes? So, yeah, so bacon got a nine. Yes, huh.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Plain unsalted almonds mmmmmmmm, scored a perfect one hundred.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Okay, I eat a lot of nuts at this point
in my life, and they really been working for me
and keeping my weight off.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I'm a big fan. Actually that's a appetite suppressor,
eating nuts for some reason. Yeah, yeah, I don't you
know it. She said.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
The bottom line was and she's kind of enthusiastic about
chasing scores, so she was kind of into this, but
it did guide her toward more simple, basic food.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I think if you just wrote down, logged in what
you eat every day and had no program and know nothing,
it would be helpful because you looked at the end
of the day and thought, wow, hey, I mean, if
you're honest and left today, I had a donut at work,
and then at lunch I had a you know whatever,
and then in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I don't feel like getting jabbed and slashed and paying
three hundred bucks and twenty five bucks in Mike.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Don't feel like collecting my dookies. Yes, uh, Katie, glad
to follow. That's a poet speaking of speaking of nuts guys. Yes,
just to slide up from earlier, not any less sad,
but poly walnuts actually passed away three years ago today.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, we got the basic art right, So why is that?
What is going on here?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That's that's who? Did we kill off a couple a
couple of months ago. We killed off the wrong person,
completely wrong woman. We talked about her for a long time. Oh,
it is the person Gloria Gainer I will survive, who's
still alive in well, as far as I know, we
had a different gainor she's dead. We are the wrong

(27:15):
people to go to for celebrity deaths. Oh that's hilarious. Well,
as we all celebrate the three year anniversary of the
death of an actor you couldn't name, my pain is starting.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You can't played a month to his laughing on.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
His three year anniversary. The traditional three year anniversary. We
need to do better.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
We need to be better well.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
And it just shows you how meaningful celebrity deaths are
because we probably made a d lot of it when
he died the first time, and.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
When we played it, I thought, wait a minute, well.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Will hit you with this again in four years. I
hope you're still listening.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Strong the Armstrong and Getty Show.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Jack and I have both been following the Caitlin Clark
story in the WNBA. She is. You know, I've compared
her to what Tiger Woods did to golf, but it's
much more than that. As as monumental as Tiger Tiger
Woods isn't on the Mount Rushmore of golf. You might
be Mount Rushmore of the modern game and all the

(28:29):
money involved, but golf alls in respect to the stars
of the past. Golf was already popular though, Oh yeah, yeah,
like I say, I think Caitlyn's The big NBA was
not listen to this for a second. Caitlin Clark's impact
merchandise sales have soared six hundred and one percent. Her team,

(28:50):
the Indiana Fevers, viewership jumped one hundred and seventy percent.
The team's value has tripled. Wow League past team subscriptions
of climb three hundred and sixty six percent. Since she
joined the league last year, app engagement is up six
hundred and thirteen percent, her endorsements of top to eleven

(29:10):
million dollars. Holy crap, I was trying to find my
quote from ice Cube. Do you remember he had offered her,
I think three million dollars to play in this three
x three league and she decided to go into the
w NBA anyway, And he was asked why he didn't offer,
you know, big money to uh, what's her rival's name, Reese,

(29:32):
and he said, they're they're in different Caitlin Clark's in
a completely different stratosphere than Reese. I mean, they're not
even close to the same thing, he said, as a
you know, from the hood, black wrapper who's always standing
up for, you know, the black community.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
As a businessman, he said, they're not even close to
the same thing, right right.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
So with that as the backdrop, I saw with interest
this piece by Sean McClain, who is you know, he's
actually got a history working for Ted Cruz and Marsha
Blackburn and Tennessee thinker, lobbyist, lawyer, et cetera. But anyway,
his headline is the WNBA in Caitlin Clark's civil rights.

(30:19):
If the league won't act to protect its superstar from
a hostile work environment, the government should do so. And
he talks about in spite of her being the economic
engine of the entire league, now she routinely faces intentional hits,
excessive fouling, uncalled abuse while referees look away.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Quotes one of her teammates.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
And Caitlin Clark herself about how she gets the hell
beat out of her in a way nobody else does
in the league and the refs look the other way
and the players get away with it.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Why would the refs look the other way?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I get the players situation. I don't get the ref situation, well,
even the player situation. As Shaq and Charles Barklay and
as the others have said, what are you doing? This
is the best thing that has ever happened to you.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, here's where we're going. Is it because miss Clark
is white?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
A Jah Wilson of the Las Vegas Aces three time
league MVP thinks. So she said that race is a
huge thing and that it boils my blood when people
say it's not about race, because it is Wow, she
said as a black woman under civil rights law, race
motivated patterns trigger scrutiny even without explicit discriminatory intent. And

(31:35):
then he goes into miss calls include viral replays of
miss Clark being fouled multiple times in a single possession.
Analyst Rebecca Lobo said, every single one of those is
a foul. Miss Clark absorbed seventeen percent of the flagrant
fowls in the league.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Wow, last year.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
That is something the double the rate of anybody else
who was flagrantly And they're claiming the claim there is
by people who know what they're talking about, that she
gets hard followed a lot when they don't call it.
So all the ones she called, one player she took
seventy percent, And that's unbelievable. So this guy and we're
not into like excessive lawsuits and that sort of thing

(32:16):
around here. What we'd like to do is dismantle a
lot of the DEI garbage.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
But he writes the league has fostered a hostile workplace
for MS Clark through excessive fouling, targeting, and hostile comments
from other players and owners. These are not isolated, they're documented, continued,
and ignored by officials, the disparity in treatment invites real scrutiny.
Not a single player has been suspended for flagrantly fouling

(32:41):
MS Clark.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And he points out that, uh that professional sports are
multi billion dollar industries and they're subject to the same
civil rights, antitrust and labor laws as anybody else.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Wow. Yeah, I've never thought about this either, because seems
like a unnecessary remedy.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
But if you've got if you given her money and
power and popularity and everything, I get it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
But if you've got a white employee of a business
who's getting the hell beat out of them because of
their race, that seems like a thing.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah you see.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Oh, Yukon Hall of Fame coach Gino ari Ema says
Miss Clark's treatment isn't merely rookie Haysen quote.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
She's also being targeted.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I don't remember when Michael Jordan came into the NBA,
guys looking to go out and beat him up. Of course,
everybody got beat up in the NBA at that point.
And then they get into the Supreme Court rulings that
it doesn't need to be deliberate, it's just letting employees
get more favorable treatment than peers due to race, the shifts,

(33:47):
the burden of the employer to prove non discriminatory motives.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Anyway, she won't do it, but it's an interesting thong.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I'm just surprised that there aren't more of the athletes
or they haven't come to the conclusion, like Shaq and
Charles bark You've said, you know, you want to beat her,
you're competitive and all that sort of stuff. But good lord,
let her bring in the ratings, so all of a sudden,
you're relevant and your league might actually have a shot

(34:14):
of making money.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Right two things. She is also in a smallest group
of straight players. How big a role that place? I
really don't her. But much more importantly, the WNBA players
of today, unlike Shack and Charles Barkley, for instance, they
are of the generation that has been schooled on systemic racism.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And DEI and the rest of it. They believe that stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
They're taught at their entire school careers, so they see
nothing but racism in Caitlyn Clark's popularity.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I want to take it out on her head.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
She's the all time leading scorer men or women in
all of college basketball.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Now people just like her because she's white, right, I
know it's insane, it is it is ideological blindness that
borders on mental illness, yeah, i'd say, and.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
To your own detriment. I know, sometimes it's bad just
because it's immoral, but when it's actually hurting your salary,
that's nuts.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well right, in fact, that might be like a key
to the diagnosis of mental illness. As doctor Savage used
to say, liberalism is a mental disorder. If I'm so
racially resentful, I pretend that her popularity isn't that she's
an incredibly exciting player.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Okay, all right, I'm kind of off kilter.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
But if I do it to my own detriment and
that of my employer and my league and everything, that's
when you're into Looney Tunesville, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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