December 31, 2025 • 35 mins
Featured in hour one of the Wednesday December 31, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...
- Heckler's Veto & Free Speech
- DMV Losers
- Doctrine of Disparate Impact
- Color of the Year & Posting for the Outrage
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong and Jettie and no
Gee Armstrong, Gaudy Strong. We are not here. We are
going to play Armstrong in Geddy Leftovers. Here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
On the last day of twenty twenty five, I had
a serious talk with my liver. It's time for you
to step up your game. I said, all right, this
is the test tonight. Let's get after Actually.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'll probably just have a quiet evening with my wife.
But anyway, you should have a great New Year's Eve.
You're not gonna watch Dick Clark's rock in New Year's
Eve with Ryan Seacres.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I almost never ever do. I'm all over it, glass wine,
crackling fire, Sir.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I need to see for myself drop with Lady Gaga
and other celebrities. I'll show you some dropping.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey what now, come on, let's let's get back to
the Armstrong hit Getty replay. So Katie brought to a
brief verse of a story from a high school not
far from the radio ranch. In fact, when I used
to drive past over and over and over again. Why
don't you go ahead and hit us with basics, Katie,
and then I'll fill you in on what's happening now well.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
A student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California is facing some controversy, with some students
accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as
a platform for civil dialogue. They just had a meeting
this week where there were sixty speakers addressing the issue.
Some associates said that the club, which is associated with
Turning Point USA, foster's division and hate among students, while
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others emphasize the importance of civil dialogue and healthy disagreement.
One member of the club said, since our first meeting,
my friends and I have been verbally harassed, both in
person and online, and it's extremely discouraging, especially since we
have felt unsafe all with the threats that have also
been made towards us.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So you've got a student who created a petition that
the club should be removed from campus said it as
over three hundred signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody,
says this student, but that does not cover hate speech.
We respect everybody where you respect the officers, but we
wish that we had respect for our families and for
our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a
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couple of things. Number One, the Heckler's veto. In effect,
that group fosters a division in the school. Okay, so
the division is they have a right to be there,
but you don't like it. That's a you problem, that's
not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not going
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to use anybody's names in this because at the oldest
they're probably eighteen, and certainly I'd much much rather discuss
principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience
or harassment down on any actually young human beings. This
is an example of people on the left accepting the
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worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group, then
claiming without evidence that they are horrible people that they
are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. I do not
see the evidence that any of these kids on campus
engaged in any hate speech, or indeed that any reasonable
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person would think turning point USA does. The problem is
on the left, you label everything you don't like as
hate speech.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, their metric for what's hate speech is different for
stuff on the right than it is for on the
left obs yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, it's like if you want to take something over,
you call it racist until you are in charge of it,
because everybody backs down.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, we've seen, well the examples of the last couple
of years. You can say from the river to the
sea all day long, and nobody calls that hate speech.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Right right, which it clearly is. And by the way,
I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews
in just a minute. But the mayor of Beautiful Lincoln, California,
was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She
became a focal point of the discussion after an edited
video of hers speaking to the students circulated online carefully
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carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece
for the local newspaper explaining herself.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And how it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate
places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious in California,
where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like
every class, and critical race theory and the rest of it.
But she points out this was a voluntary student led
club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the
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school district in California's equal access laws and the to
fit the school allows non academic clubs LGBTQ clubs for
black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is absolutely
not acceptable. According to the loud little self righteous snowflakes,
and she talks about her presentation, These students were largely respectful.
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My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe in,
why you believe it, having the courage to stand by
your convictions, and recognizing that differences in belief or opinion do.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Not equate to hatred. Well, you gotta shut that down, surely.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given
the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated
the discussion. That is so typical they went there to
dominate the meeting and try to shut it down. Many
questions centered on statements attributed to Charlie Kirk or Turning
Point USA. I repeatedly clarified that I was not giving
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my own personal views to those questions, but rather responding
to questions about what mister kirk kid publicly stated, while
encouraging students to seek full context and make up their minds.
After the meeting, I learned that a student had recorded
me without authorization and later told classmates he intended to
use the video quote to take me down. The video
was quickly distributed to media outlets, including the Sacramento b
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which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily edited
and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that I
said things I did not say, in grossly misrepresenting both
my intent and character. You know, I got to I
got to tip my cap to California schools. You are
teaching the kids, well, they have really learned the art
of crushing free speech, of demonizing anybody who disagrees with
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them and trying to humiliate them publicly.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They learned. I understand how young people come to this
idea that this might be a good thing. One of
my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchins, used to tell the story
about how when he was at Oxford and he was
a student, he and some other like minded students shut
down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got
into the electronics and turn off the microphone or something
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like that, and they just thought that was fantastic. But
when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite
of what we should do, and decried that the rest
of his life. You beat their idea with your ideas.
The Heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have.
We got to have free speech, et cetera, et cetera.
So I can understand how kids could come to that idea.
The fact that adults go.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Along with it is amazing, right right, And she gives
several more examples of just brutal editing and context clearing,
so she appears to call mL King Junior a Marxist
and appears to make statements about a black pilot that
she did not say.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's absolutely outrageous and ugly.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And vicious, and it's so out of the same catalog
of demonizing Jews and making up, you know, various blood
libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward them without
having a good conversation, without asking, Hey, what's this?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is it true? What's your point of view on this?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going
after conservative students. It's the opposite of education, it's the
opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that
any school would permit it to happen like this. You
need to step in right now twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California, and teach the kids what the free exchange.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Of ideas is about. That's what you're there for. And
be very very very careful what you call hate speech.
By the way, the kids at this club have been harassed,
threatened online docs through fake accounts, and targeted simply for
participating a lawful student club. Students have the right to protest,
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they do not have the right to intimidate or harass others.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Lincoln School District, how hard are you working to figure
out who is docsing and harassing kids?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm one hundred percent certain you have an anti online
bullying protocol.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Of course, do you enforce it now? Get started now? Well,
imagine if somebody who was harassing a trains kid on
that be a completely different story.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Tell you what the left is a mob of angry monsters.
Oh you don't think that's true. I would take a
look at the angry monsters amongst you and tell them, hey,
that's not cool. It's not in my power to stop
leftists from being angry mobsters. You know, the angry members
of a mob, but it.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is in yours. Maybe you get started again Today would
be a good time.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Hey. One more note on the Lincoln story. This the
mayor of Lincoln who spoke to the group. She talked
to Sacramento Bee reporter Jenna Pendleton, who is an adult,
and I will name her and explain the context of
several quotes or she was not representing her own views.
They asked her, why would Charlie Kirk say this? And
she said, well, he might have meant blah blah blah.
She clarified that context to the Bee reporter. That clarification
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was omitted from the final coverage and the Bee contributing
to a misleading narrative.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If
you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If
your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should
be able to do them in with their actual words.
You don't need to like leave stuff out or take
it out of context or make stuff up. It was
like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump Ifa. Trump's
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as bad as you say, isn't He's pretty crazy? Just
use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it
in such a way that it's completely a lie, right right,
everybody Overreaches or somewhere going sure is a.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Deep, deep blue town no matter how red your town is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Within your town, it's your life. Local schools man, No kidding,
that's worth thinking about it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong
and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And finally, a bronx man recently threatened to blow up
the Department of Motor Vehicles after he was told he
would have to wait up to two hours to apply
for an ID. Unfortunately for him, the lines to blow
up the place was three hours long.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's a good joke. Having spent two hours of the
DMV yesterday, I spent two hours of the MVS today.
That's with an appointment. But but I tweeted out, and
I've wondered this since I was young. Why are all
life's losers hanging out at the DMV? Where are the
regular people? There are no regular people the DMV. It's
almost entirely losers, like in line there and stuff. You
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hanging out, yes, sitting you line evers like with me.
It's got a bit of a Homer Simpson. Why are
the things that happened to stupid people keep happening to me,
but you don't look around and see any buddy. I mean,
I thought this when I was twenty five, so this
isn't like me now. I've always thought this. It's like,
very well, every car parked in the parking lot is
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like Dennett and missing hubcaps and got you know, a
plastic bag over one window. The percentage of people with
either a crutch or a sling is way higher than
the regular population. I don't know what to make of this.
I'm uncomfortable with it, and I don't know why it is.
I've always wondered that. Now. I tweeted that out and
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some people said, well, those of it that there is
a separate one for those of us who aren't life's losers.
It's called Triple A. And I did discover that in
my thirties that if you're a member of Triple A,
a lot of the stuff you can do there, But
like the thing I'm doing bringing a car in from
another state, you have to go to the DMV. California
tries to make it impossible to bring a car in
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from another state because there are ultimate goals to have
no cars. That is the goal of the state of California.
They hate carrs and they would like to get rid
of them. So you're always.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Everybody in evs which tear up the highways which are
already bad.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, and I'm registerying to register an EV and it's
still just as hard. But anyway, that aside, I had
a point of Oh somebody did point out though, because
I got into a lot of conversations online because I
had two hours to gill wondering about this question. Is
that uh, further down the ladder of life working out
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for you, or when you're young, you drive cheap cars
that have, you know, more difficulties, and you swap cars
more often, and just with with other crappy cars. Just
lots of things happen that require the DMV more often.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, and there's there's a certain percentage of trips to
the DMV which are caused by lack of organization, No,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm speaking for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I know that if if I, for instance, had gotten
the FORMA X thirty four or B in on time,
I wouldn't have to be standing in that damn line.
And there's definitely a correlation between ability to be organized
and think ahead and success in life. You either have
it or in my case, you marry it and thereby
avoid a lot of the trips.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But anyway, it's insane that we can't have a simpler
system though that I know a lot of it has
gone online, but it all should be easily doable online,
shouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, yes, clearly. I wonder if AI can get a
wrap on this someday where there's a d M v
AI thing that can tell you, no, you need this form,
click here and you'll have the form, and then you
fill out the form and it's submitted on the computer.
And all of this is nonsense of waiting in line
for hours. And this didn't happen to me, thank god,
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but I saw it happened to practically everybody around me,
waiting in line for hours to be told no, you
need thirty four B, you have thirty four B. A.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh, that's so Soviet Union. That is so evil. Actually,
Elon Muskin, the the Doge boys. They're getting all the
attention for cutting this and firing them over there, but
one of the main priorities they have is updating the
ridiculously antiquated and unconnected computer systems of the government. And
I would love to see that catch fire. Just as
an aside, after the well a half dozen or so
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of the DOGE leaders made that great appearance on the
special report with Brett Bher. I really thought they would
be mounting a charm offensive where more of those people
would be doing more interviews.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It could be that all of the alphabet networks in
the usual suspects that New York Times have no interest
in it because it undercuts their narrative of it's just
a handful of frat boys on meth running around firing nice,
innocent people with families, when indeed that's not it at all.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I actually hadn't been in a DMB in quite a
few years, so I was trying to take the multiple
hours as an opportunity to just observe, you know, our
government system at work. I also committed myself to knowing
that I wouldn't get accomplished where I want to accomplish
in one trip. I didn't but to having a cheerful
look about it as I watched so many people get
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angry and thinking, you've made yourself miserable, You've made the
person that works there even a little more hardened against
the public. Nothing good was accomplished by getting upset about this,
no matter what. But I thought, how do you do
that job? How could you do that job for a
day and not end up the way a lot of
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dmv drone people are. The person I worked with was
very cheerful and nice, but a lot of them aren't.
And I don't know how you could work that job
one week without being one just the mindless boredom of it,
and then that everybody being mad at you.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's really inhumane to subject someone to doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, I don't know how you would do that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I agree, it's not an excuse exactly for being mean
or abusive, but I understand it having dealt with the
public fair amount, especially in younger jobs.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think it's how TSA people end up where they
are too, although with the added benefit for both of
those jobs, you can't be fired because working in retail
is a lot of that too, and you have to
keep your cheerful out look because they can fire you
and get somebody different, So you have to overcome the
whole The customers pissed me off, that's a big funny.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So the Justice Department last week issued a major, major
ruling that I did not see covered.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm glad I came across this.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Are you familiar with the horrific, idiotic, illogical doctrine of
disparate impact?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
If there's a differing result among different racial groups being
hired at certain numbers, passing a test in certain numbers,
losing a foot, race, whatever, that is enough proof that
there was discrimination.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That that is illegal and it must be fixed. Right,
no matter what it is. If you end up with
an outcome that's fifty to fifty men and women, or
the percentage of black people, Hispanic people, gay people that
exist in America, it is by definition, picking and choosing
winners discriminatory. Discriminatory.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Assistant Attorney General Harmit Dillon, who's one of the great
civil rights heroes of the twenty first century, We've talked
to her a number of times on the air. It's
been a while, said, our rejection of this theory will
restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of
actual discrimination rather than enforcing race and sex based quotas
or assumptions.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, did you mention? The Supreme Court has ruled several
times that disparate impact is a good idea, which is
highly troubling.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yet is highly troubling. It was kind of tacked on
to the section of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There was a.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Big court case, a Supreme Court case in nineteen seventy one,
and if you don't know the history of the Supreme Court,
the idea that because now briefly it leans conservative is
somehow a horror.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, for like fifty years it leaned way way left
super active as court and this Griggs versus Duke Power
essentially said, well, specifically, it said Duke Power had discriminated
against black employees by requiring applicants for promotion to have
a high school diploma and pass two aptitude tests. Unless
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the player could provide a prove.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
A business necessity for that policy, or any policy with
disparate impact, it would be liable for discrimination. That doctrine
has been weakened in various ways by various court cases
through the years, but it was still a factor and
then got really revived and pushed during the woke Apocalypse
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of twenty twenty three, you know, fairly recently. But the administration,
the Justice Department just came out and said, no, we
completely reject it as a doctrine, and it is. Let's see, specifically,
they issued a rule doing away with disparate impact liability
under one section of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act,
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so that we're going to cure racism by more racism
has been weakened considerably because the one problem with it
is it creates incentives for employers to engage in outright discrimination.
You might probably not remember, but Ricci versus di Stefano
in two thousand and nine, plaintiffs were white firefighters in
New Haven, Connecticut, who passed a test for promotion decisions.
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Because whites passed at high rates than minorities, the city
worried it would face disparate impact lawsuits, so it discarded
the test results and did not promote the white firefighters.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, from a legal standpoint, you could see why they did, Yeah,
just to protect their arses.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely, So that Clarence Thomas, by the way, is
hated this forever.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's nonsensical, it's stupid on its space as far as
I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and he wrote in his eloquent style
that allowing disparate impact liability quote to correct for imbalances
that do not result from any unlawful conduct. Conduct inevitably
leads to racial balancing, which is patently unconstitutional. So anyway,
well done, miss Dylan in the Justice apartment. Love that move,
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Love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We got fifty dollars from mister soup, sandals, swimsuit. You
have any idea what that is? You hate soup, you
refuse to sandals and short pants? You're right, Okay, that
explains it. There you go. Yeah, did you know that
Australia has the highest per capita population of Holocaust survivors
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outside of Israel? I did not just read that. Yeah,
I had a couple of Holocaust survivors who were killed
by those Islamist nut jobs over the weekend. Jesus survived
the Holocaust. All these years later, you get shot in
the country of Australia, of all places, by a couple
of people who dedicated their lives to isis How in
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the hell does that ideology catch on?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And I want to repeat this every time we bring
the story up. They globalized the Intafada. Absolutely, that's what
it means. I'm not sure all the college kids who
chant it and know that that's what it means. But
Zorn Mandami knew what it meant, and he refused to
distance himself from the phrase. Right, yeah, yeah, well yeah,
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the college kids being fools who were or you know what,
more charitably innocence, They were innocence who were indoctrinated by
their evil professors, and the Islamists who work with the
neo Marxist the Red Green Alliance. You know, I kicking
the kids probably won't do any good, but you have
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been defrauded, you have been fooled, and you have been
duped into enlisting in an army of evil youngsters.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Go a wall. By the way, since I mentioned this
a little bit ago, that if you didn't like Rob
Reiner's politics and you make any comment joyful about his dying,
you're just like the people who cheered Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
And Rob Reiner did it in an interview just a
couple of days ago with Piers Morgan in which he
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said Charlie Kirk's assassination was an absolute horror. Nobody should
die for their politics like that, no matter what their
politics are, and he was amazed and impressed with Erica Kirk,
Charlie Kirk's wife's ability to forgive the killer. So that's
Rob Reiner's attitude about that sort of thuff. Yeah, and
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it had nothing to do with his politics anyway, despite
what Donald Trump tweeted, it was their homeless drug addicted
son that probably came in the house and killed them,
which is pretty awful.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, Okay, Trump's tweet was horrific.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Truth. I don't know what to say about that. I
can tell, I can tell I was going to bring
that up.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Every descriptor you've used of it has been neutral, which
I think is interesting Trump's posting.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm almost as amazed that it not getting
more attention. I mean, it doesn't even hardly stand out
in our current climate.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, and it's not like it's the first time he
said anything completely unhinged.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Right, Well, yeah, yeah. You combine with the fact that
when somebody is brutally murdered if you didn't like their politics,
you cheer. Not everybody, not most people, not you know,
a tiny minority, but enough people for it to be disturbing,
combined with the things that all our politicians say. No,
it doesn't even hardly ring the bell, but it is
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something from a president of the United States. Rob Reiner
and his wife were passed away in their home. Passed
away as an interesting phrase for people that were stabbed
it up, reportedly due to the anger he caused others
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through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind
crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome. So he believes
somebody so angered by Rob Reiner's views of Trump came
in and killed him.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Or he saw that on somebody's social media account and
went with it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it had nothing to do with it actually, just
for the record, even if it had been specifically somebody
what you're blaming, condemning it, yeah, wholeheartedly. Yeah, Okay, that's
just where we are. I don't know what to do
about it. Let the pendulum swing back, or maybe it
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won't have her hard to say. The Armstrong and Getty Show, Georgia, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Who Podcasts and Our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Pantone announced that their color of the Year is cloud Dancer,
which they call a billowy, balanced white imbued with a
feeling of serenity, a description they stole from my old
bumble profile.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I thought that was a funny Joe. Plus the fact
that there's a color of the year, the whole as
a person involved in a remodel of a home. At
this point, I'll tell you the whole hot color thing
is annoying. Here's a little pro tip for you. Unless
you're willing to.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Have your house repainted every couple of years, if you
go with the hot color, it will be the oh
my god, that color is so out color before you
know it. Yeah, like in the blink of an eye. Yeah,
So beware, beware coming up. I don't know, next hour,
maybe tomorrow, I can't remember. It doesn't matter. We'll get
to it eventually. But I want to retell to you
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one of the oldest stories that you've heard, a time
honored story, a story you've heard over and over again.
In that time, Caesar Augustus ordered that woke cities should
try rent control.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
See what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota have taken opposite approaches
to rent control, and you will be completely unshocked by
the outcome of that little experiment right there on either side.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Of a river. For some reason, it never occurred to
me before, but Saint Paul is obviously named after Saint
Paul Saul of Tarsus. Yes, really pretty much the spreader
of the entire Christian thing. Saint Paul of all places,
about as woke a town as you could come up with.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, but not as woke as their big brother Minneapolis
Jack as we learn anyway, So I thought this was interesting,
the question of rage baiting, which is intentionally posting something
to social media that you know, will anger people.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
What was the one last week? It was a joke
that we used a couple of times. It is about
Christmas or Santa. It was a rage bait thing. It
was very very funny. Yeah, yeah, just jump in when
it does. You're right.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Well, I remember it was saying like something like posting
I hate Santa.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, something about just yeah, just to make people mad.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, it's beyond like a strong opinion. It's intentionally trying
to anger people. And interestingly enough, that was the word
of the year by the Oxford University Press. I have
no idea what their color of the year was, but
their word or term of the year was rage bait.
And you know, at first, Blush is a human being.
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You might think that it's not a great idea to
post content that antagonizes people, right, I mean imagine that's
how you behaved it like cocktail parties Christmas gatherings. But
people who post content on social media make more money
if their channel has high levels of engagement, regardless of
how positively people might be responding. And in addition, they're
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writing in this piece. Social media platforms use algorithms that
tailor the content we see to what we are likely
to engage with, whether positively or negatively.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And so that doesn't necessarily mean they feed us content
that make.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Us happy, just to any engagement, including angry comments we
might post in response, because they make more money that way,
which is really insidious.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Way, Sure, we got to fix this. We cannot survive
this if we don't fix.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It right right, But this article, interestingly, is from the
point of view of psychologists. Things you can do to
help control your reaction to this sort of content. But
first you have to understand why rage bait is so effective.
And it's funny. This is kind of a variation on
something we've been talking about for years and years about
how nobody's ever tuned out from your in danger or
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that's the number one way, or this will make you angry.
Provocative posts can result in the higher number of clips.
This may be a result of negativity bias, where negative
emotions such as anger spread more quickly and intensely through
social networks. Okay, we've seen that, But in evolutionary terms,
it's more important for us to pay attention to situation
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that has caused anger to our group than to a
situation that has created happiness.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Anger suggests that action needs to be taken to resolve
an issue, whereas happiness suggests that everything is okay. There
is no evolutionary need to respond urgently to everything is okay, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
In other words, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's obvious.
But it helps with why you get this way or
I get this way. Yeah, it's a protective mechanism.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, So let's see, we're probably looking for social information.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I am better than I was even a couple of
months ago at recognizing when I see something on our
text line or Twitter feed or whatever is like, okay,
you're just trying to I see what you're trying to do, yeah, troll. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So we're primed to look for social information, obviously. And
you know, another variation on the thing we've talked about
a lot in the past, the groups we belonged to
were typically local to where we lived, friends, neighbors, colleagues.
But growth social media means we can now connect with
people from.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All over the world. That's another object. Time to play
the Pga O'Rourke quote, what a giant change in my lifetime?
How many a holes were you exposed to pre Internet
in your in your in your social circuit, or your life.
A handfuls them all and you could name them all
and you ignored them or stayed away from them, as
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opposed to every a hole on earth now.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Right, So that means they're far more groups we can
be part of and in turn roots through which people
can anger us. Research has also found that people can
be quick to align their views with others on anything that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Prompts a negative emotion. We've mentioned years and years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
People bond more quickly over what they don't like than
over what they like, or what they bond over.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
What they hate. That's why, you know, talk radio complaining
about stuff you know tends to do better than happy,
happy joy joy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, I think that's true to some extent, although a
lot of the things we talk about, I mean, where
are you gonna find the happy, happy joy joy in politics.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean, Barnes, that's a reason to not talk about
politics at all.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh, yeah, I hear that. Let's see. The other problem
is we can post content or comments immediately get a
reply twenty four hours a day, none stop. Typically, we
used to have breaks from anything or anyone that caused
us a feeling of rage. It would be extremely rare
unless you live, you know, in a dysfunctional family or
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dysfunctional workplace or something like that. But anyway, so knowing
that many of the posts are posted solely to drive
engagement helps us reclaim our power over these interactions. A
twenty twenty study show that giving people an understanding of
manipulation techniques in the medium powered them to resist those techniques.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, like the story you always tell one of your
kids saying, haters gonna hate that the younger first time
I heard that phrase. Yeah, younger generation has picked up
on this faster than us older people, because, you know,
for all the reasons you just stated, we didn't grow
up around non stop haters.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, you know, maybe the simplified version of this is
you look at stuff like that and say, oh, they're
desperate for attention and they're trying to bake me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, so sorry. I was trying to explain that to
my son. He's got a problem with an individual and
their personality who they need. Every time you explain to
me what this person does and says, they're just trying
to get a reaction out of you, or they don't
get any attention at home or something that. I mean,
they're just wanting attention. It just you know, them saying
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they hate what you like is an attempt to, you know,
get some sort of attention reaction out of you. And
that's just who they are. Yeah, and it's hard for
him to digest.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't even know how I
developed this, even as like a teenager, I realized the
value of somebody says something like that to you. If
you can just fix them with the dead eyes and
show a complete lack of reaction the dead eye, that's
like it's like a superpower.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Dead eyes.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Because people are trying to get power over you, right sure,
to provoke you, to get you on the hook. And
if you can give them the I heard everything you said,
and you're getting nothing out of me. Ah please, they
wither like it violet and winter or something.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I got. I don't give a metaphor. Yeah, something withery anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, give them the dead eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I've gotten the dead eyes before.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, Michael, you have. You've earned them. I'm not amused
by you. I'm not angered by you. I'm not provoked
by you. I'm bored by you.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That's what the dead end. I'm bored by you. That's
a good one. Yeah, armstrong, Andy, I'm strong and strong
and
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong and Jettie and no
Gee Armstrong, Gaudy Strong. We are not here. We are
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
On the last day of twenty twenty five, I had
a serious talk with my liver. It's time for you
to step up your game. I said, all right, this
is the test tonight. Let's get after Actually.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'll probably just have a quiet evening with my wife.
But anyway, you should have a great New Year's Eve.
You're not gonna watch Dick Clark's rock in New Year's
Eve with Ryan Seacres.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I almost never ever do. I'm all over it, glass wine,
crackling fire, Sir.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I need to see for myself drop with Lady Gaga
and other celebrities. I'll show you some dropping.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey what now, come on, let's let's get back to
the Armstrong hit Getty replay. So Katie brought to a
brief verse of a story from a high school not
far from the radio ranch. In fact, when I used
to drive past over and over and over again. Why
don't you go ahead and hit us with basics, Katie,
and then I'll fill you in on what's happening now well.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
A student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California is facing some controversy, with some students
accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as
a platform for civil dialogue. They just had a meeting
this week where there were sixty speakers addressing the issue.
Some associates said that the club, which is associated with
Turning Point USA, foster's division and hate among students, while
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others emphasize the importance of civil dialogue and healthy disagreement.
One member of the club said, since our first meeting,
my friends and I have been verbally harassed, both in
person and online, and it's extremely discouraging, especially since we
have felt unsafe all with the threats that have also
been made towards us.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So you've got a student who created a petition that
the club should be removed from campus said it as
over three hundred signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody,
says this student, but that does not cover hate speech.
We respect everybody where you respect the officers, but we
wish that we had respect for our families and for
our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a
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couple of things. Number One, the Heckler's veto. In effect,
that group fosters a division in the school. Okay, so
the division is they have a right to be there,
but you don't like it. That's a you problem, that's
not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not going
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to use anybody's names in this because at the oldest
they're probably eighteen, and certainly I'd much much rather discuss
principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience
or harassment down on any actually young human beings. This
is an example of people on the left accepting the
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worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group, then
claiming without evidence that they are horrible people that they
are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. I do not
see the evidence that any of these kids on campus
engaged in any hate speech, or indeed that any reasonable
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person would think turning point USA does. The problem is
on the left, you label everything you don't like as
hate speech.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, their metric for what's hate speech is different for
stuff on the right than it is for on the
left obs yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, it's like if you want to take something over,
you call it racist until you are in charge of it,
because everybody backs down.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, we've seen, well the examples of the last couple
of years. You can say from the river to the
sea all day long, and nobody calls that hate speech.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Right right, which it clearly is. And by the way,
I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews
in just a minute. But the mayor of Beautiful Lincoln, California,
was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She
became a focal point of the discussion after an edited
video of hers speaking to the students circulated online carefully
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carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece
for the local newspaper explaining herself.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And how it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate
places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious in California,
where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like
every class, and critical race theory and the rest of it.
But she points out this was a voluntary student led
club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the
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school district in California's equal access laws and the to
fit the school allows non academic clubs LGBTQ clubs for
black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is absolutely
not acceptable. According to the loud little self righteous snowflakes,
and she talks about her presentation, These students were largely respectful.
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My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe in,
why you believe it, having the courage to stand by
your convictions, and recognizing that differences in belief or opinion do.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Not equate to hatred. Well, you gotta shut that down, surely.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given
the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated
the discussion. That is so typical they went there to
dominate the meeting and try to shut it down. Many
questions centered on statements attributed to Charlie Kirk or Turning
Point USA. I repeatedly clarified that I was not giving
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my own personal views to those questions, but rather responding
to questions about what mister kirk kid publicly stated, while
encouraging students to seek full context and make up their minds.
After the meeting, I learned that a student had recorded
me without authorization and later told classmates he intended to
use the video quote to take me down. The video
was quickly distributed to media outlets, including the Sacramento b
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which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily edited
and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that I
said things I did not say, in grossly misrepresenting both
my intent and character. You know, I got to I
got to tip my cap to California schools. You are
teaching the kids, well, they have really learned the art
of crushing free speech, of demonizing anybody who disagrees with
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them and trying to humiliate them publicly.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They learned. I understand how young people come to this
idea that this might be a good thing. One of
my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchins, used to tell the story
about how when he was at Oxford and he was
a student, he and some other like minded students shut
down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got
into the electronics and turn off the microphone or something
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like that, and they just thought that was fantastic. But
when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite
of what we should do, and decried that the rest
of his life. You beat their idea with your ideas.
The Heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have.
We got to have free speech, et cetera, et cetera.
So I can understand how kids could come to that idea.
The fact that adults go.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Along with it is amazing, right right, And she gives
several more examples of just brutal editing and context clearing,
so she appears to call mL King Junior a Marxist
and appears to make statements about a black pilot that
she did not say.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's absolutely outrageous and ugly.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And vicious, and it's so out of the same catalog
of demonizing Jews and making up, you know, various blood
libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward them without
having a good conversation, without asking, Hey, what's this?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is it true? What's your point of view on this?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going
after conservative students. It's the opposite of education, it's the
opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that
any school would permit it to happen like this. You
need to step in right now twelve Bridges High School
in Lincoln, California, and teach the kids what the free exchange.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Of ideas is about. That's what you're there for. And
be very very very careful what you call hate speech.
By the way, the kids at this club have been harassed,
threatened online docs through fake accounts, and targeted simply for
participating a lawful student club. Students have the right to protest,
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they do not have the right to intimidate or harass others.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Lincoln School District, how hard are you working to figure
out who is docsing and harassing kids?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm one hundred percent certain you have an anti online
bullying protocol.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Of course, do you enforce it now? Get started now? Well,
imagine if somebody who was harassing a trains kid on
that be a completely different story.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Tell you what the left is a mob of angry monsters.
Oh you don't think that's true. I would take a
look at the angry monsters amongst you and tell them, hey,
that's not cool. It's not in my power to stop
leftists from being angry mobsters. You know, the angry members
of a mob, but it.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is in yours. Maybe you get started again Today would
be a good time.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Hey. One more note on the Lincoln story. This the
mayor of Lincoln who spoke to the group. She talked
to Sacramento Bee reporter Jenna Pendleton, who is an adult,
and I will name her and explain the context of
several quotes or she was not representing her own views.
They asked her, why would Charlie Kirk say this? And
she said, well, he might have meant blah blah blah.
She clarified that context to the Bee reporter. That clarification
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was omitted from the final coverage and the Bee contributing
to a misleading narrative.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If
you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If
your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should
be able to do them in with their actual words.
You don't need to like leave stuff out or take
it out of context or make stuff up. It was
like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump Ifa. Trump's
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as bad as you say, isn't He's pretty crazy? Just
use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it
in such a way that it's completely a lie, right right,
everybody Overreaches or somewhere going sure is a.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Deep, deep blue town no matter how red your town is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Within your town, it's your life. Local schools man, No kidding,
that's worth thinking about it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong
and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And finally, a bronx man recently threatened to blow up
the Department of Motor Vehicles after he was told he
would have to wait up to two hours to apply
for an ID. Unfortunately for him, the lines to blow
up the place was three hours long.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's a good joke. Having spent two hours of the
DMV yesterday, I spent two hours of the MVS today.
That's with an appointment. But but I tweeted out, and
I've wondered this since I was young. Why are all
life's losers hanging out at the DMV? Where are the
regular people? There are no regular people the DMV. It's
almost entirely losers, like in line there and stuff. You
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hanging out, yes, sitting you line evers like with me.
It's got a bit of a Homer Simpson. Why are
the things that happened to stupid people keep happening to me,
but you don't look around and see any buddy. I mean,
I thought this when I was twenty five, so this
isn't like me now. I've always thought this. It's like,
very well, every car parked in the parking lot is
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like Dennett and missing hubcaps and got you know, a
plastic bag over one window. The percentage of people with
either a crutch or a sling is way higher than
the regular population. I don't know what to make of this.
I'm uncomfortable with it, and I don't know why it is.
I've always wondered that. Now. I tweeted that out and
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some people said, well, those of it that there is
a separate one for those of us who aren't life's losers.
It's called Triple A. And I did discover that in
my thirties that if you're a member of Triple A,
a lot of the stuff you can do there, But
like the thing I'm doing bringing a car in from
another state, you have to go to the DMV. California
tries to make it impossible to bring a car in
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from another state because there are ultimate goals to have
no cars. That is the goal of the state of California.
They hate carrs and they would like to get rid
of them. So you're always.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Everybody in evs which tear up the highways which are
already bad.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, and I'm registerying to register an EV and it's
still just as hard. But anyway, that aside, I had
a point of Oh somebody did point out though, because
I got into a lot of conversations online because I
had two hours to gill wondering about this question. Is
that uh, further down the ladder of life working out
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for you, or when you're young, you drive cheap cars
that have, you know, more difficulties, and you swap cars
more often, and just with with other crappy cars. Just
lots of things happen that require the DMV more often.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, and there's there's a certain percentage of trips to
the DMV which are caused by lack of organization, No,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm speaking for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I know that if if I, for instance, had gotten
the FORMA X thirty four or B in on time,
I wouldn't have to be standing in that damn line.
And there's definitely a correlation between ability to be organized
and think ahead and success in life. You either have
it or in my case, you marry it and thereby
avoid a lot of the trips.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But anyway, it's insane that we can't have a simpler
system though that I know a lot of it has
gone online, but it all should be easily doable online,
shouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, yes, clearly. I wonder if AI can get a
wrap on this someday where there's a d M v
AI thing that can tell you, no, you need this form,
click here and you'll have the form, and then you
fill out the form and it's submitted on the computer.
And all of this is nonsense of waiting in line
for hours. And this didn't happen to me, thank god,
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but I saw it happened to practically everybody around me,
waiting in line for hours to be told no, you
need thirty four B, you have thirty four B. A.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh, that's so Soviet Union. That is so evil. Actually,
Elon Muskin, the the Doge boys. They're getting all the
attention for cutting this and firing them over there, but
one of the main priorities they have is updating the
ridiculously antiquated and unconnected computer systems of the government. And
I would love to see that catch fire. Just as
an aside, after the well a half dozen or so
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of the DOGE leaders made that great appearance on the
special report with Brett Bher. I really thought they would
be mounting a charm offensive where more of those people
would be doing more interviews.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It could be that all of the alphabet networks in
the usual suspects that New York Times have no interest
in it because it undercuts their narrative of it's just
a handful of frat boys on meth running around firing nice,
innocent people with families, when indeed that's not it at all.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I actually hadn't been in a DMB in quite a
few years, so I was trying to take the multiple
hours as an opportunity to just observe, you know, our
government system at work. I also committed myself to knowing
that I wouldn't get accomplished where I want to accomplish
in one trip. I didn't but to having a cheerful
look about it as I watched so many people get
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angry and thinking, you've made yourself miserable, You've made the
person that works there even a little more hardened against
the public. Nothing good was accomplished by getting upset about this,
no matter what. But I thought, how do you do
that job? How could you do that job for a
day and not end up the way a lot of
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dmv drone people are. The person I worked with was
very cheerful and nice, but a lot of them aren't.
And I don't know how you could work that job
one week without being one just the mindless boredom of it,
and then that everybody being mad at you.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's really inhumane to subject someone to doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, I don't know how you would do that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I agree, it's not an excuse exactly for being mean
or abusive, but I understand it having dealt with the
public fair amount, especially in younger jobs.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think it's how TSA people end up where they
are too, although with the added benefit for both of
those jobs, you can't be fired because working in retail
is a lot of that too, and you have to
keep your cheerful out look because they can fire you
and get somebody different, So you have to overcome the
whole The customers pissed me off, that's a big funny.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So the Justice Department last week issued a major, major
ruling that I did not see covered.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm glad I came across this.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Are you familiar with the horrific, idiotic, illogical doctrine of
disparate impact?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
If there's a differing result among different racial groups being
hired at certain numbers, passing a test in certain numbers,
losing a foot, race, whatever, that is enough proof that
there was discrimination.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That that is illegal and it must be fixed. Right,
no matter what it is. If you end up with
an outcome that's fifty to fifty men and women, or
the percentage of black people, Hispanic people, gay people that
exist in America, it is by definition, picking and choosing
winners discriminatory. Discriminatory.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Assistant Attorney General Harmit Dillon, who's one of the great
civil rights heroes of the twenty first century, We've talked
to her a number of times on the air. It's
been a while, said, our rejection of this theory will
restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of
actual discrimination rather than enforcing race and sex based quotas
or assumptions.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, did you mention? The Supreme Court has ruled several
times that disparate impact is a good idea, which is
highly troubling.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yet is highly troubling. It was kind of tacked on
to the section of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There was a.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Big court case, a Supreme Court case in nineteen seventy one,
and if you don't know the history of the Supreme Court,
the idea that because now briefly it leans conservative is
somehow a horror.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, for like fifty years it leaned way way left
super active as court and this Griggs versus Duke Power
essentially said, well, specifically, it said Duke Power had discriminated
against black employees by requiring applicants for promotion to have
a high school diploma and pass two aptitude tests. Unless
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the player could provide a prove.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
A business necessity for that policy, or any policy with
disparate impact, it would be liable for discrimination. That doctrine
has been weakened in various ways by various court cases
through the years, but it was still a factor and
then got really revived and pushed during the woke Apocalypse
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of twenty twenty three, you know, fairly recently. But the administration,
the Justice Department just came out and said, no, we
completely reject it as a doctrine, and it is. Let's see, specifically,
they issued a rule doing away with disparate impact liability
under one section of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act,
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so that we're going to cure racism by more racism
has been weakened considerably because the one problem with it
is it creates incentives for employers to engage in outright discrimination.
You might probably not remember, but Ricci versus di Stefano
in two thousand and nine, plaintiffs were white firefighters in
New Haven, Connecticut, who passed a test for promotion decisions.
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Because whites passed at high rates than minorities, the city
worried it would face disparate impact lawsuits, so it discarded
the test results and did not promote the white firefighters.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, from a legal standpoint, you could see why they did, Yeah,
just to protect their arses.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely, So that Clarence Thomas, by the way, is
hated this forever.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's nonsensical, it's stupid on its space as far as
I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and he wrote in his eloquent style
that allowing disparate impact liability quote to correct for imbalances
that do not result from any unlawful conduct. Conduct inevitably
leads to racial balancing, which is patently unconstitutional. So anyway,
well done, miss Dylan in the Justice apartment. Love that move,
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Love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We got fifty dollars from mister soup, sandals, swimsuit. You
have any idea what that is? You hate soup, you
refuse to sandals and short pants? You're right, Okay, that
explains it. There you go. Yeah, did you know that
Australia has the highest per capita population of Holocaust survivors
(21:38):
outside of Israel? I did not just read that. Yeah,
I had a couple of Holocaust survivors who were killed
by those Islamist nut jobs over the weekend. Jesus survived
the Holocaust. All these years later, you get shot in
the country of Australia, of all places, by a couple
of people who dedicated their lives to isis How in
(22:01):
the hell does that ideology catch on?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And I want to repeat this every time we bring
the story up. They globalized the Intafada. Absolutely, that's what
it means. I'm not sure all the college kids who
chant it and know that that's what it means. But
Zorn Mandami knew what it meant, and he refused to
distance himself from the phrase. Right, yeah, yeah, well yeah,
(22:25):
the college kids being fools who were or you know what,
more charitably innocence, They were innocence who were indoctrinated by
their evil professors, and the Islamists who work with the
neo Marxist the Red Green Alliance. You know, I kicking
the kids probably won't do any good, but you have
(22:46):
been defrauded, you have been fooled, and you have been
duped into enlisting in an army of evil youngsters.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Go a wall. By the way, since I mentioned this
a little bit ago, that if you didn't like Rob
Reiner's politics and you make any comment joyful about his dying,
you're just like the people who cheered Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
And Rob Reiner did it in an interview just a
couple of days ago with Piers Morgan in which he
(23:17):
said Charlie Kirk's assassination was an absolute horror. Nobody should
die for their politics like that, no matter what their
politics are, and he was amazed and impressed with Erica Kirk,
Charlie Kirk's wife's ability to forgive the killer. So that's
Rob Reiner's attitude about that sort of thuff. Yeah, and
(23:38):
it had nothing to do with his politics anyway, despite
what Donald Trump tweeted, it was their homeless drug addicted
son that probably came in the house and killed them,
which is pretty awful.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, Okay, Trump's tweet was horrific.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Truth. I don't know what to say about that. I
can tell, I can tell I was going to bring
that up.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Every descriptor you've used of it has been neutral, which
I think is interesting Trump's posting.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm almost as amazed that it not getting
more attention. I mean, it doesn't even hardly stand out
in our current climate.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, and it's not like it's the first time he
said anything completely unhinged.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Right, Well, yeah, yeah. You combine with the fact that
when somebody is brutally murdered if you didn't like their politics,
you cheer. Not everybody, not most people, not you know,
a tiny minority, but enough people for it to be disturbing,
combined with the things that all our politicians say. No,
it doesn't even hardly ring the bell, but it is
(24:54):
something from a president of the United States. Rob Reiner
and his wife were passed away in their home. Passed
away as an interesting phrase for people that were stabbed
it up, reportedly due to the anger he caused others
(25:14):
through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind
crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome. So he believes
somebody so angered by Rob Reiner's views of Trump came
in and killed him.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Or he saw that on somebody's social media account and
went with it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it had nothing to do with it actually, just
for the record, even if it had been specifically somebody
what you're blaming, condemning it, yeah, wholeheartedly. Yeah, Okay, that's
just where we are. I don't know what to do
about it. Let the pendulum swing back, or maybe it
(25:53):
won't have her hard to say. The Armstrong and Getty Show, Georgia, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Who Podcasts and Our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Pantone announced that their color of the Year is cloud Dancer,
which they call a billowy, balanced white imbued with a
feeling of serenity, a description they stole from my old
bumble profile.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I thought that was a funny Joe. Plus the fact
that there's a color of the year, the whole as
a person involved in a remodel of a home. At
this point, I'll tell you the whole hot color thing
is annoying. Here's a little pro tip for you. Unless
you're willing to.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Have your house repainted every couple of years, if you
go with the hot color, it will be the oh
my god, that color is so out color before you
know it. Yeah, like in the blink of an eye. Yeah,
So beware, beware coming up. I don't know, next hour,
maybe tomorrow, I can't remember. It doesn't matter. We'll get
to it eventually. But I want to retell to you
(27:00):
one of the oldest stories that you've heard, a time
honored story, a story you've heard over and over again.
In that time, Caesar Augustus ordered that woke cities should
try rent control.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
See what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota have taken opposite approaches
to rent control, and you will be completely unshocked by
the outcome of that little experiment right there on either side.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Of a river. For some reason, it never occurred to
me before, but Saint Paul is obviously named after Saint
Paul Saul of Tarsus. Yes, really pretty much the spreader
of the entire Christian thing. Saint Paul of all places,
about as woke a town as you could come up with.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, but not as woke as their big brother Minneapolis
Jack as we learn anyway, So I thought this was interesting,
the question of rage baiting, which is intentionally posting something
to social media that you know, will anger people.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
What was the one last week? It was a joke
that we used a couple of times. It is about
Christmas or Santa. It was a rage bait thing. It
was very very funny. Yeah, yeah, just jump in when
it does. You're right.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Well, I remember it was saying like something like posting
I hate Santa.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, something about just yeah, just to make people mad.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, it's beyond like a strong opinion. It's intentionally trying
to anger people. And interestingly enough, that was the word
of the year by the Oxford University Press. I have
no idea what their color of the year was, but
their word or term of the year was rage bait.
And you know, at first, Blush is a human being.
(28:50):
You might think that it's not a great idea to
post content that antagonizes people, right, I mean imagine that's
how you behaved it like cocktail parties Christmas gatherings. But
people who post content on social media make more money
if their channel has high levels of engagement, regardless of
how positively people might be responding. And in addition, they're
(29:15):
writing in this piece. Social media platforms use algorithms that
tailor the content we see to what we are likely
to engage with, whether positively or negatively.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And so that doesn't necessarily mean they feed us content
that make.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Us happy, just to any engagement, including angry comments we
might post in response, because they make more money that way,
which is really insidious.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Way, Sure, we got to fix this. We cannot survive
this if we don't fix.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It right right, But this article, interestingly, is from the
point of view of psychologists. Things you can do to
help control your reaction to this sort of content. But
first you have to understand why rage bait is so effective.
And it's funny. This is kind of a variation on
something we've been talking about for years and years about
how nobody's ever tuned out from your in danger or
(30:10):
that's the number one way, or this will make you angry.
Provocative posts can result in the higher number of clips.
This may be a result of negativity bias, where negative
emotions such as anger spread more quickly and intensely through
social networks. Okay, we've seen that, But in evolutionary terms,
it's more important for us to pay attention to situation
(30:30):
that has caused anger to our group than to a
situation that has created happiness.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Anger suggests that action needs to be taken to resolve
an issue, whereas happiness suggests that everything is okay. There
is no evolutionary need to respond urgently to everything is okay, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
In other words, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's obvious.
But it helps with why you get this way or
I get this way. Yeah, it's a protective mechanism.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, So let's see, we're probably looking for social information.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I am better than I was even a couple of
months ago at recognizing when I see something on our
text line or Twitter feed or whatever is like, okay,
you're just trying to I see what you're trying to do, yeah, troll. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So we're primed to look for social information, obviously. And
you know, another variation on the thing we've talked about
a lot in the past, the groups we belonged to
were typically local to where we lived, friends, neighbors, colleagues.
But growth social media means we can now connect with
people from.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All over the world. That's another object. Time to play
the Pga O'Rourke quote, what a giant change in my lifetime?
How many a holes were you exposed to pre Internet
in your in your in your social circuit, or your life.
A handfuls them all and you could name them all
and you ignored them or stayed away from them, as
(31:55):
opposed to every a hole on earth now.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Right, So that means they're far more groups we can
be part of and in turn roots through which people
can anger us. Research has also found that people can
be quick to align their views with others on anything that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Prompts a negative emotion. We've mentioned years and years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
People bond more quickly over what they don't like than
over what they like, or what they bond over.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
What they hate. That's why, you know, talk radio complaining
about stuff you know tends to do better than happy,
happy joy joy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, I think that's true to some extent, although a
lot of the things we talk about, I mean, where
are you gonna find the happy, happy joy joy in politics.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean, Barnes, that's a reason to not talk about
politics at all.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh, yeah, I hear that. Let's see. The other problem
is we can post content or comments immediately get a
reply twenty four hours a day, none stop. Typically, we
used to have breaks from anything or anyone that caused
us a feeling of rage. It would be extremely rare
unless you live, you know, in a dysfunctional family or
(33:03):
dysfunctional workplace or something like that. But anyway, so knowing
that many of the posts are posted solely to drive
engagement helps us reclaim our power over these interactions. A
twenty twenty study show that giving people an understanding of
manipulation techniques in the medium powered them to resist those techniques.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, like the story you always tell one of your
kids saying, haters gonna hate that the younger first time
I heard that phrase. Yeah, younger generation has picked up
on this faster than us older people, because, you know,
for all the reasons you just stated, we didn't grow
up around non stop haters.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, you know, maybe the simplified version of this is
you look at stuff like that and say, oh, they're
desperate for attention and they're trying to bake me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, so sorry. I was trying to explain that to
my son. He's got a problem with an individual and
their personality who they need. Every time you explain to
me what this person does and says, they're just trying
to get a reaction out of you, or they don't
get any attention at home or something that. I mean,
they're just wanting attention. It just you know, them saying
(34:11):
they hate what you like is an attempt to, you know,
get some sort of attention reaction out of you. And
that's just who they are. Yeah, and it's hard for
him to digest.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't even know how I
developed this, even as like a teenager, I realized the
value of somebody says something like that to you. If
you can just fix them with the dead eyes and
show a complete lack of reaction the dead eye, that's
like it's like a superpower.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Dead eyes.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Because people are trying to get power over you, right sure,
to provoke you, to get you on the hook. And
if you can give them the I heard everything you said,
and you're getting nothing out of me. Ah please, they
wither like it violet and winter or something.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I got. I don't give a metaphor. Yeah, something withery anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, give them the dead eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I've gotten the dead eyes before.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, Michael, you have. You've earned them. I'm not amused
by you. I'm not angered by you. I'm not provoked
by you. I'm bored by you.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That's what the dead end. I'm bored by you. That's
a good one. Yeah, armstrong, Andy, I'm strong and strong
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