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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
And Jetta and He Armstrong and get Getty Strong.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
What you thought we went through the motions in twenty
twenty five. We're really going to phone it in in
twenty twenty six. Look forward to it. Meanwhile, let's look
back on when we used to try. It's a carefully
culled selection of best of highlights, et cetera. It's the
Armstrong and Giddy.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Replace right, brother and as by Kayla. This was their
first time to Burning Man. Kayla woke up, wasn't filling
my brother Casey ran I always said I need help.
Within minutes they had like an obg I n in
there in his underwear helping. There were no signs of pregnancy.
We were at the lake the weekend before. She was
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in a swimming suit. She did not look pregnant.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah that's a woman talking about how her niece. I
guess because that's the end. I had a baby at
burning Man and didn't know she was pregnant. So that's
a good story for the kid when the kid grows up. Yeah,
I had you at Burning Man. Thank god there happened
to be a doctor there. I didn't even know I
was pregnant while I was partying at Burning Man. That's
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good story right there. That's also that's for ninety nine
point nine percent of women on earth.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That story is just ahead scratch, no kidding, you didn't
know from women to men.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
This is going to lead me into my nearly getting
in a fight on a plane story front page USA Today,
cover story, Male anger finds.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
A new home online, dun Dunton.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Here's the thing to be afraid of, all right, And
it's about how the online focus on masculinity comes at
a time when study after study shows men in America
experiencing unprecedented levels of loneliness, fatigue, depression, and suicide. That
is all true, and it probably should be discussed more.
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I wonder if that has anything to do with the
fifty five shootings in Chicago over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Eight deaths so far.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They're still counting, because I haven't got all the numbers
in yet. I don't know how it is at the
end of the summer. You're just yelling at us yourself
earlier on how it's time to get down to business
and do you get serious and the rest of it.
You know, you get to the end of the summer,
you realize, God, there's like five six people I've meant
to shoot the summer and I haven't yet. I've got
to get this done. Yeah, you say to yourself, it's
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going to be snowing soon. You say to yourself, where
did summer go? So many rivals I haven't shot, and
here it is so many minor conflicts I'm meant to
settle with deadly force.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I better get to it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Anyway, back to the USA today, and all those awful
statistics about men coming to their apparent rescue are groomed,
muscular men in polished videos, smoking cigars, sitting in a
private jet doing push ups, and whispering that men's pain
is because of women. Women are greedy, untrustworthy, weak and inferior,
these influencers say. And then they get into how this
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is affecting young men. I don't have any idea I
know that exists. I don't have any idea how big
an influence that is on the men.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Of the world.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I really don't know. I personally don't know any that
are into that one. Oh, I have a great, great
story about the whole online influencer thing that I want
to get to later. But yeah, I mean that sort
of thing does exist, and some of these guys have followings,
absolutely true. But the number of men who are demonized
merely for being men and told that their masculinity is
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by definition in itself toxic. It doesn't have to be toxic,
just to be masculine as ugly, and they're given that
message as little boys at school that they need to
sit down and shut up and act like the little girls.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
The number of guys who have to deal with that
crap as opposed to the vanishingly small number that want
to go all tape Brothers on womankind. This plays please.
It's an elephant and an ant. So that's an odd
lead into this. I don't know if it has anything
to do with it, but there was an angry man
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on a plane I got on you so flying domestically
over the weekend. One charming thing that I learned with
a couple of different airports was nobody has any idea
what the new rules are for what you put on,
what you take off, what you take out of your bag,
what you can leave in your bag.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Nobody has any idea.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Apparently including the TSA agents, because it just it varies
from person to person. Even had one TSA agent say
to me, you can leave that on. Then the next
TSA agency said, you got agent said you got to
take that off, and then behind me rolled his eyes.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Oh okay. Here he goes again, like.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
If y'all can't get together on anyway, what do you
want out of us?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So I get on this plane and I'm walking down
the aisle headed back to my proletariat seats. I don't
sit up in the first class section. I'm back with
the restless. And I'm walking back to my seat and
there is a mom who I had seen in the
waiting line in the airport. She's got like a one
and a half year old, and she's, you know, doing
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the bouncing up and down, trying to keep the one
and a half year old calm and all that sort
of stuff. And she's sitting there, and then there's this guy,
and I see the whole thing. I end up seeing
the whole thing because I'm just standing right there waiting
to get back. She says, my husband's not booked to
be sitting with us. Would you mind it trading seats
with him? And he said, plan better, and she said,
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I'm sorry what he said, plan better? And she said,
you don't need to be so plan better. All I
did was that plan better. What is wrong with you, Sarah,
I'm just plan better. I mean, he's screaming, and he
is right next to my elbow. I mean, his head
is right next to my elbow, because I'm standing in
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the aisle and he's about like mid late thirties, skinny guy,
a shaved head, dressed like he's, you know, not a
crazy person, but with the look of a he is
the expression of.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
A crazy person.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Anyway, I everybody was like immediately on edge because this
guy was clearly unhinged. And uh, and I thought, if
he touches that woman holding that baby, I am gonna
choke this guy out. I mean, because I was right there.
I mean I put I put my bag in my
other arm. I'm I it would have taken nothing to
do this. But then then her husband, who's two rows
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further up, same exact seats, So it would have changed
this guy's life not at all. He doesn't have to
change seats. He could have said no, thank you or
or he could have done what I would have done
and said, sure, it's exactly the same seat to Wars Forward.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
What do I care?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
But the husband said, hey, you don't need to You
don't need to talk to my wife like that plan better.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I've flown with my kid before. I planned better. Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Wow, this guy's some sort of motivational speaker. Evidently with
a very narrow his consentation. It can be summed up
in two words. And so he was so over the top,
so quick. I think everybody was stunned, like what do
you even where do you even go with this conversation?
My favorite part of the whole thing was though, coming
from behind me as a British accent, you all the
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reason that society is breaking down those people like you
and acting like this, That is a problem with society.
It's like what he said, and it sounded like we
had a narrator. It was like David Attenborough from the
Wilderness Shows. Here we see the young man in his
natural habitat angry.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I's a woman who has a kid.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Or that is so funny that it was a print
because while I was in England, then you can get
on with the story. While I was in England. I
thought I was meant to be British. I'm more comfortable here.
Everybody's a bit more restrained on her fright, and considerately
I want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So the only thing left of the story is so
the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It makes it pretty clear that he is not going
to do anything physically, and the line's moving, so I
got a move.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So I get back to my seat.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I sit down, and I say to the two seat
mates I've got, including this one guy who turns out
to be wound so flipping tight. I mean, this guy,
he was chomping his gun the whole time, tapping his
fingers on his keyboard. I don't know if he like
did cocaine before he got on the plane, or if
that's just the way he rolls all the time, big tall, strong,
young dude.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I'm telling him the story and he says, oh,
where is he? Where is he? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Man, I don't care if I get on CNN. I'm
ready to take this guy out. This fantastic there's like
five people on this plane ready to fight right now.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
So you've got the brit who's kind of functioning as
a as a very restrained, dignified intelligent commentator. I'm the
good and the bad that is laid arrayed before us.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There's another a y man, the baby she needs to
protect from the wild man. Let's see how it goes well.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And then the young man's like, you know, you make
a good point, granddad, let's whoop some ass, which you
know also standing up for decency. Yeah, yeah, I don't
know what happened. It looked like a whole bunch of
people moved their row, like all of them, like two
entire rows moved to accommodate the mom, kid and husband
because it didn't make any difference. They're in that section
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where all the seats are the same. And then all
stared at Baldy Mcrage the rest of the flight next
to me though he just he spent all his time
looking down the aisle, like, come on, do something, guy,
do something.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I don't know why he had so much energy he
needed to work out well who he got on the
plane angry at. It's funny how I we hear these stories,
we talk about him all the time where somebody's acting
out on a plane, and I think.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
How is there not some young guy to take care
of this? On my plane. For whatever reason, just luck
of the draw.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
There seemed to be a whole bunch of people that
were looking forward to the opportunity to take care.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Of waffle House airlines exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Exactly. Waffle House has an airline. Now, yeah, we fly
at two in the morning. Soon as the waffle house closes.
Everybody goes straight from the waffle house, the bar, to
the waffle house onto the plane. That's the way the
waffle House airlines worked. And there's a lot of fighting
waffle House air Oh oh, no, no, oh, why any who?
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You know, I gotta remember that line though. My wife says,
you know, I really should have brought some heels. Yeah,
just and immediately go to eleven exactly. Yeah, shriek that
at people more.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Often, Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The arm Strong and Gueddy Show.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So, speaking of defending ourselves against well, somebody China can do.
The whole salt typhoon hacking attack that you may have
heard of, it was way bigger and more significant than
was even discussed. I think it was last year a
little before that. Apparently the Chinese may have stolen data
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from almost every single one of US Americans not to
mention the other eighty countries, well that we're targeted. If
you just started with TikTok, that would be what seventy
percent of the country. I don't know, a lot of
people have TikTok, and that's yea a ton of information
they steal just by if you download that app.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, right, right, And I know I have saved that article.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I can't remember who wrote it, but actual, oh, I
think it was Michael Pillsbury wrote The Hundred Year of Marathon,
which is a great book about China's rise and their intent.
But the Chinese intelligence services talk glowingly of TikTok and
what a valuable asset it is. And if that isn't
enough in information for you, I don't know what you
need to hear. But anyway, so, the sweeping cyber attack
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by the group known as Salt Typhoon is China's most
ambitious yet targeted more than eighty countries, may have stolen
info from nearly every American. They see it as evidence
that China's capabilities rivaled those of the US and its allies.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's not clear.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Whether a lot of the stuff was swept up kind
of accidentally, and whether it's being stored or anything like that.
You know, I personally, knowing a little bit about China's
track record, I suspect that, Yeah, they believe that information
is power. Even if you don't know how you might
use it someday, you just keep it and then what
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the fear is that the range of the attack blah
blah blah. Security officials warned that the stolen data could
allow Chinese intelligence services to exploit global communications networks to
track targets, including politicians, spies, and activists, everybody's digital footprint.
I wonder if they do they actually have the ability
to like coalesce, keep track of somehow, like they steal
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all the information from a twenty two year old in
that person twenty years from now becomes a US senator,
Do they have the ability to keep track of that?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't have any on you.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'll bet with Ai they do now maybe because you
don't have to have some poor analysts like you know,
pawing through millions of pages of digital blankety blank, or
doing Google searches. You just ask AI, Hey, Senator Jones,
what do we have on him? Here's his last known addresses?
Blah blah blah. And in a similar ish story, you
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remember when the Trump administration's contentious trade talks with China
were going to begin last summer, staffers on the House committee.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Focused on US competition with China began.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
To get weird emails from the committee's chairman, John Molinar,
who is a Republican congressman from Michigan. Several trade groups,
law firms, US government agencies had all received the emails
appearing to be from Molinar, asking for input on the
proposed sanctions with which the legislatures were planning to target Beijing.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Your insights are essential blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Turned out to be the latest in a series of
cyber espionage campaigns linked to Beijing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
They were impersonating the guy.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Trying to pump anybody for information who's willing to give
it to them, And they tied that to when last
year I think it was somebody used AI to imitate
Marco Rubio's voice, right and had him leaving voicemails to people,
to all sorts.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Of foreign officials. That's going to happen a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Wonder And just like in everybody's lives, you're going to
get a text that sounds like your wife saying something ridiculous.
I mean, just as just messing with you, isn't it
because so easy? Well yeah, apparently, Well not only do
you have Marco Rubio being not you know, I said,
I almost said convincingly imitated, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's his actual voice symphasized digitally.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
It's like, you know, if you're a guitar player, you
know they have these digital amp what do you call
them imitations? There's a word for it, models that actually
take the audio data from you know, a Marshall amplifier
or whatever, and they can replicate it.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know, the sound waves are the same. So yeah,
it's his voice essentially.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But yeah, you already have grandma's getting calls from their
grandson saying, hey, I got arrested, I need two hundred
dollars bail, blah blah blah, send it right away.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Wonder whether do the Marcos Rubio of the world and
the foreign ministers of Britain or whatever, do they already
have protocols in place where if I see a phone
call coming in it appears to be from you, for instance,
and you say, hey, I need to talk to you
about blah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Blah blah, I've been arrested a ninety Yeah, good luck,
get it yourself. Click. Do they have like code words
and stuff already? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I've heard that suggested that families have that have a
code really yes, wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Wow, and none of that. Huh yeah. You'd you'd have to.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Be a little naive or inexperienced in the ways of
the world to fall for this stuff. Still, but that's
that's the thing about scumbags is some of them are
pretty smart and they're good at their jobs. Yeah. I mean,
if I got a phone call from my son, even
if it sounded very convincing, Dad at Sam, I'm in Mexico,
I'm in jail, I think, No, you know you're not.
You're at school. There's no way you ended up in Mexico. Well,
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what about I'm two towns over. I was ditching school
and one of my buddies was shoplifting and I was
with them, so I got arrested A four hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, how about now arn a lesson? Click? Uhh yeah,
hang out with better people. Click there.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I think you would probably see where you're supposed to
send the money. Right, Wait a minute, I'm calling the
cop shop right, yes, yeah, but a lot of people
don't because they're they're nice. It's no nice, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So it's graduation season, and particularly around colleges, it's the
time of the year where self important liberal get invited
to major universities to give speeches, and then the media
covers them like a news event because they're saying the
sort of thing that most of the media agrees with.
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That's what happens well described. There are you know, people
who lean right that go to colleges that lean right.
The few that are, but they never make get a
new news coverage, so you don't hear about them, including
the President for instance.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But here Joe, Joe mentioned this last week.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I've seen this starting to burble up and get more attention.
Where was which university? Was he speaking at?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
North Carolina Wake Forest? Wake Forest in South Carolina, Carolina?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I thought wak Force was South Carolina and not unless
it's mood okay, Uh, it doesn't really matter. It's you know,
it's it's your your, it's your major figure of the
left giving a lefty speech. But he went over the top.
And one of the reasons it's so remarkable is he
he's on one of the most important news programs in
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the world, Sixty Minutes, which allegedly is trying to be
you know, a nonpartisan hit it down the middle sort
of coverage, or at the very least fair, just be fair,
and a guy with this point of view can't be
doing that. This is Scott Pelley speaking to college graduates.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
definition of the words we use to describe reality. Diversity
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is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Inclusion is a dirty word. This is an old play book,
my friends, there's nothing new in this.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
We have another clip that I'm tempted to play.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
It's all about the fear, be very afraid, We're all
in grave danger. Goes on and on, but that one
really caught my ear because he claimed that the center
and the right are trying to change the definitions of
words or say that they're no longer acceptable diversity, equity
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and inclusion, which we all know exactly what they mean,
and we all know they're wonderful. Those sickos on the
right are trying to change what they mean, which is
just unbelievable. Diversity, equity and inclusion coming out of the
mouths of a leftists mean nothing like you think they mean.
It is a tool of capturing institutions.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Right man.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The left is so good at this game, and they
get to pull it off with the help of the
complying to media. It's like what I was listening to
an NPR today. They were discussing how Trump is trying
to change the way we teach history in America and
all the things he is attacking. Well, you put it
in there. What y'all lead within the last ten years,
what they teach in schools is not the same as
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what they taught in schools when ISAA kid, You put
stuff in there that a lot of us don't like.
When Trump tries to take it out, that's not rewriting history.
You rewrote history. He's trying to write it back to
what it was before.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Sixty minutes, Anchor Scott Pelly ripped for angry unhinged commencement
speech criticizing Trump. Now that's the New York Post's headline
on that their version of it. But eh, angry and
unhinged is not far off. He said that the uh,
we should all be worried about the insidious sphere that
has infiltrated schools, businesses, and homes across the nation, leaving
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America in a state of peril. The country needs you.
The country that has given you so much is calling you,
the class of twenty twenty five. Your country needs you,
and it needs you today the morning. Our sacred rule
of law. This morning, our sacred rule of law is
under attack. Journalism is under attack, universities are under attack,
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freedom of speech is under attack, and insidious fear is
reaching throughout the schools and into our private thoughts. All right, boy,
that is just absolutely classic. You spend all of your
time and your career convincing people they need to be
terrified when there's like two thirds of the country that's
not at all, I mean from mildly concerned to very interested.
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But no, we're not being torn apart by insidious fear
at all. Scott and the part Right before that little
clip about power that we just played you the fear
to speak in America. If our government is in Lincoln
sprays of the people, by the people, for the people.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Then why are we afraid to speak? What the effort
you talk about? Don't no?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I assume he's referencing that Columbia student that got snatched
up on the campus, and that you were really speaking
about how you're afraid to speak.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Do you see the irony there, Scott? Do I see
the irony there? Oh?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Now, the New York Post says the speech was received
with scattered, scant applause.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's the New York Post version. I don't know. I
haven't actually listened.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
They might say that, and that might not be true,
or it may be true, and it might be because
everybody's barely paying attention and they just want to get
out of there on a hot day. How long is
this going to last? As opposed to not enjoying what
he had to say? But that that is that is
that is just craziness. It is just craziness.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I love the It reminds me so much of when
Komy breeched the president so then he could lake that
leak that the president has been briefed on this Stele dossier. Well,
so Scott Pelley and his brethren preached being terrified and
in fear all the time. And then he goes to
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the graduation ceremony and breathlessly reports and everybody's really afraid.
There's fear, in citious fear going on. Yeah, I wonder
where that in citious fear came from. It's the roughly
third of the country that listens to you and beliefs
your crap.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Don't terrify them.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Then report that they're terrified and act as if somebody
else did it. Well, And as he stands up in
front of a bunch of university kids and said, now
is the moment your nation is calling on you with
all the fear to speak out. Yeah, the fear to
speak out for the past quite a while has been
from anybody to the right on any college campus, because
you'll be a physically attacked and the university will do
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nothing about it. As long as you as long as
you speak progressive stuff, you're safe. You speak anything the
other side, you're physically not safe. But you didn't care
about that fear to speak out aspect, did you.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Scott Pelly you, Pampus asked.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Not for a second did you worry about that? And
just to double down on what you're saying. And it
wasn't like the right half of ideaology that was afraid
to speak out.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It was the right eighty percent.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Anything outside of the most radical leftism had to keep
its mouth shut on college campuses. And now Scott Pelley's
preaching that people are afraid to speak out.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, oh my god, he is a piece of ass.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Freedom of speech is under attack, and insidious fear is
reaching throughout our schools, our businesses, our homes and into
our private thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
What are you a hand?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Show a hans who's got insidious fear going in their
business because they're afraid to speak or whatever. Now, maybe
the tariffs have got you upset, I'll grant you that.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well, I'll tell you what that is. I'll tell you
what that's driving that is.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He believes diversity, equity and quality inequality means diversity, equity
and equality, that they mean those words inclusion, mean those
words and not what they've twisted them to mean. And
so that's what he's basing it on. So he is
the useful idiot. He is the big famous, pompous, useful
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idiot who doesn't understand Neo Marxism. He just he thinks
it's a moral ark. Well, I'll move on from this
because we don't need to belabor it forever. But do
you think do you think he doesn't know that college
campuses are not a safe space? I hate that term
for anybody to you know, on the right eighty percent?
As you said, right, yeah, does he not ignored us?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I don't think he's a knowledgeable, insidious activist. I think
he is a pompous, rich, famous idiot, probably with big guns.
Oh and tight shirts. Your shirt shrank in the dryer
or something. It's a very tight very impressive for an
older man. I'm very impressive for an older man. Yes,
you pompous pos.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I wanted Joe to make an argument for why I
should be worried about the billionaires and being at the
inauguration and being too close to Trump and whatever. This
all darky that Biden warned us about the other night.
Bernie talked about this lesson yesterday with the Treasury Secretary
some one.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Of your confirmation hearings. Here's Bernie Sanders. We don't talk
about this enough.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
And that is when you got three people on top
who well, more wealth than the bottom half of American society,
one hundred and seventy million people. You know what, that's oligaucky.
When you have massive concentration of ownership in our economy,
fewer and fewer corporations owning and controlling the economy, that's oligauchy.
When you have more and more billionares, whether it's Musk
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owning Twitter or Murdoch owning Fox, or other billion ass
owning newspapers, that's oligaucky.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
As she didn't want to say bezos in the Washington
Post because they're on your side, right, Bryan, Yeah, go
with the who's another conservative Murdoch? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
So well in what way? Well, well, what's the argument
for there shouldn't be billionaires? They've got too much money?
This is an oligarchy. I will tell you this a
couple of things. Number One, if you are if you
hope to be a serious person, a person who of
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you it is said, I don't always agree with him
or her, but their point of view is always worth
taking in.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
You need to be able to steal man.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
The other side's argument the opposite of a straw man,
where you construct a ridiculous parody of their argument that
knock it down and feel all manly.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You see it all the time and it works. You've
got to she dismissed it.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'll tell you what, after a rough day, nothing I
like better than beating the hell out of a straw man.
But you know, you've got to construct a very strong argument,
as they would make it. I've got to admit I'm
finding this argument, this assignment very, very difficult, because I
find the argument's weak. What I would say is similar
to Bernie. You have that much concentrated wealth and power
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in a few people with a direct connection line to
the Presidency and the entire executive branch, they will become
a star chamber of the ultra wealthy, directing US policy
to their whims.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh my god, I did a good job. Evidently you
know my argument. How would you stop?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
How would you first of all, how would you stop
the possibility of that? How would you limit the possibility
of that anyway within the Bill of Rights?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Oh no, no, it can't be done.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
There are a couple of like really good counter arguments
against that, even if.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You admit that it's true. One, what are you going
to do about it?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
If your net worth is more than fifty million dollars,
you don't get to a petition the government for a
redress of grievances.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Right, or you're not allowed to talk to your senator
or the president. And speaking of visiting Washington, DC, if
you ever strode along K Street and seen all the beautiful,
shiny buildings that are full of lobbyists, that sort of
thing is already happening in spades every single day.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Obviously because of our bent, it's just so much easier
to take the other side of this.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Statistically, First of all, just start here.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
There are more billionaires that donate to Democrats than there
are donate to Republicans. That's just an unknown fact. So
and Bernie's against that. In his defense, he is utterly misguided.
But Bernie Sanders is sincere true. Bernie is a socialist.
He doesn't think billionaires should exist. That is a nut
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job attitude. But Biden is fine with the Democrat billionaires.
He isn't like conservative billionaires. Oh yeah, complete one. Billionaires
switch teams because a lot of times billionaires are just
going with whichever direction see Zuckerberg, maybe whichever direction. Okay,
they're in power, let's make them happy, which you know
is not a bad business model. But first of all,
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it's a lot like we mock. If it's going to
be one hundred degrees, everybody gets all excited as opposed
to ninety eight. It's just a round number. I don't
know why somebody who is whose net worth is nine
hundred million dollars is, eh, well, do what you want
to do. But once you hit a billion, you're all
of a sudden suspect I got to kill you.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
You've got a billion dollars. I mean that just seems
like so if you got five guys.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
In the front row that each have three hundred million dollars,
don't need to think about them. It's the two billionaires
over there that's just silly. Yeah, yeah, you know, I
think this is this is my final word on this,
and it's a very handy thing to keep in your
intellectual back pocket to bust out in case of emergency.
And that is Jefferson's famous declaration not of independence, but
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that he would rather attend to the problems of too
much liberty than too little. And there are so many
things like the billionaire argument, because it's, you know, it's
reasonable to say, look, you got people with incredible wealth
and power. They can direct the government in ways not
foreseen by the constitution. It's absolutely true. But the cure
would be worse than the disease. It's it's a you know,
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to unfortunately bring up Christinome again. My dog Baxter, God
bless him, still hanging on. He's he's a fabulous dog.
He's very bright, he's very willful. He is like a
disobedient child. He will get away with what he can.
And you know, when I'm in the room, he's good.
But at the minute I walk out of the room,
he's like eight, the bus is gone. Anyway, I could
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certainly eliminate a lot of those problems by shooting my
dog like I'm Christino. It would absolutely, one hundred percent
cure those problems. Billionaire follow you No, no, no, what.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Am I Luigi the psychopathic lunatic? No I am not.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What I'm saying is gosh, it would be nice to
not have those problems. But if the cure violates your
fundamental beliefs, then you got to find another way. You've
either got to live with it or be more clever
about curing it. And one of the great sick tendencies
of the left, especially but not exclusively the left, especially
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if you want to look at history, but one of
their sick tendencies is to say this is a problem,
and this is a solution to that problem, therefore we
must do it. And the idea that we don't get
to do that, we need to just.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Put up with it or help a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
We don't to give ourselves the power to cure that
quote unquote problem would make us monsters. I'm not sure
a lot of the media even has an argument. They
just think that because I've seen a fair amount of
news coverage where it's just Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg,
will all three be attending the inauguration on Monday. There
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are the three richest men in the world, and they
plan to sit together and they kind of look at
you like, huh, isn't that scary?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But with no follow up is why it would be
in any way?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I don't right, it's just appealing to like not spelled
out prejudices. It's like if you're in a group of
racists and somebody brings up a black man, for instance,
and somebody says something disparaging about them. Nobody says, all right, now,
let's have a discussion of the positive and negative aspects
of that person's character and whether that was deserved or not. No,
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they'll just snicker because they're racists, and that's the way
it is. It's just a tribal signaling thing. I think
they're way wrong on this. I think most people admire billionaires,
wish they could be a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Think it's cool. Imagine what it'd be like to be
a billionaire.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I know there is a crowd college students or whatever
college professors who are just the term billionaire.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
The idea of a billionaire makes them sick.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
But I think that's like a tiny percentage of the country,
don't you.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I would agree. I don't think most people are bothered
by it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
The politics of envy is incredibly powerful too. But yeah,
I think, and this is crazy. Maybe you want to
jot this down. If a billionaire does something good, why
don't you say that's good? And if they do something bad,
say that's bad. And I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
We'll go from there, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
They are elon trying to rein in the shocking, sprawling,
idiotic growth of the federal bureaucracies.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That's great. Yeah, don't care what his net worth is.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I think it should be pointed out more than the one, two,
and three richest people in the world are all Americans
who made their goal of it from scratch in the
United States of America. Because you can't arm strong and getty.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I'm strong, and I'm strong and