January 2, 2026 • 36 mins
Featured in Hour One of the Friday January 2, 2026 edition of The A&G Replay...
- Jack on the Spectrum
- Grading Our Year
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- Pregnant Katie's Belly Rubs
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jack arm Strong, Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty and Pee
arms Wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Okayddy, we're still on vacation. We're trying to get ready
for twenty six. I mean, we had a lot of
shows to do in twenty six. We're just we're studying up.
We're getting plenty of sleep, taking vitamins, all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
But this is still replays of the Armstrong and Geeddy show.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yes, it's still early in the year, and we're all
brimming with optimism and cheery goodwill. Things will go to
you know what, soon enough, So let's enjoy some carefully
selected replay stuff highlights best of if you will. It's
thee Armstrong in Giddy replay. We've talked about this before, and.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You've had a comment about it, Joe, which you'll probably
repeat here. Starting I'll start with this, and I almost
never work this side of the street about autism and kids'
mental health problems, but this is from the Washington That's
the one that Byron York works for Free Beacon or
Washington Times.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I can never remember one of them.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Diagnosis rates of autism among children have more than tripled
over the past fifteen years. We know that one reason
which Minnesota's welfare scandal has laid bare with shocking details
is Medicaid fraud and abuse. Now we've been talking a
lot about the Minnesota thing, and in particular, they're fraud
which might lead the nation. Medicaid pays healthcare providers big
(01:40):
bucks to diagnose and treat children with autism, sometimes tens
of thousand dollars a month for a single child, Yet
states rarely verify that kids were diagnosed actually meet the
medical criteria for the disorder. So if you put down
that you've got an autistic kid, nobody confirms it or
not apparently Lisa Mine, he's quoting Alicia Finley's piece in
(02:00):
the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, or they get appropriate treatment
from qualified specialists. You don't have to one confirm you
got a diagnosis or two show that you're using the
money for any sort of treatment or anything like that.
The results have to get lots of money. Children covered
by Medicaid or the government run Children's Health insurance program
are two and a half times more likely than those
with private coverage to be diagnosed with autism. Now, I
(02:23):
suppose you could tease it out and have some reason
that kids with private coverage are less exposed to plastics
or cell phone towers or whatever the hell we think
causes autism.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, I had a thought pop up, but then
I corrected it.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I was thinking, well, maybe the uh and this is
not my point of view, but I'm just expressing it.
Maybe the greedy, selfish private insurance companies refuse to pay
for treatment. But then no, it's it's just diagnosis. It's
not treatments of any kind. Two and a half times
more likely to be diagnosed autistic.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The final sentence being many lower income kids are labeled
autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems. And
that's kind of actually what I wanted to get into.
So people always say, well, you know, is there more
autism or did we just used to overlook it and
not called anything. There's some of that, of course, but
that's not the vast majority of it. And I've talked
to people who researched this for a living. It's not
(03:18):
even close to explaining where we are. And if you've
had kids in the modern world, you know there's way
more kids with way more problems that ever existed when
you were young, depending on your age.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, it's just it's just a fact. And this
leads me to what I really wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Is this So a woman who knows me, grown woman
with kids, she brought this, She said this the other day,
just offhandedly. She she actually has four kids, three of
them autistic, three autistic boys, one of them severely autistic. Wow,
she said, well, you're clearly on the spectrum somewhere to me.
(03:58):
Is that what she said? Oh, oh yeah, yeah, I
can diagnose it from a mile away. You're clearly She said,
you're obviously ADHD. I assume you know that, and I
said no, I've never thought about it for a second.
She said, you're clearly ADHD, and you're probably almost certainly
on the spectrum some certain I thought, wow, that is
I've never even thought about this before.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's really interesting, which gets to my whole.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Parallel universe thing. I don't know if I am or not.
I'm a sixty year old man who's been relatively successful.
My life has lived. I'm not sure it makes any
difference at this point, but if I would, I would
love to go back in a parallel universe and have
me diagnosed with something at age whatever, put in maybe
(04:41):
special classes, maybe given medication, whatever goes along with it,
and see how I would have turned out versus ignoring
it my whole life.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll be fascinating. Uh yeah, absolutely, I've long.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Fantasized about, you know, just seeing that because it's such
an intriguing question. I think for everybody, what if I
had taken a left instead of a right? Uh huh,
you know, career wise, you know, the partner wise, just
one hundred things.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
How would that have played out? It's just so intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, specifically on this medical thing, it is the question
of Now, if you're severely anything, obviously you need to
diagnosis in probably some sort of either therapy or medication.
But if you're that mild version that a lot of
kids are, are you better off never being told that
you have some special reason to be not paying attention
(05:35):
or struggle in life?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think so? Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Like I wasn't told I have any special reason too,
even though some woman just told me the other.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Day I do.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Are you better off just thinking God, I suck at this,
I better work harder.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Wow, that's that's a really difficult question to answer simply say. Yeah,
I'd say is It depends obviously, as you indicated on.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
This eficeity of the situation.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, there's something to be said for figuring out like
I did, because I one hundred percent would have been
diagnosed in school with ADHD.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was just way, way too slow for me. It
made me insane. Do you think it would have been
helpful to you?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
See, that's that's where it starts to get really complicated. Yes,
in a way, but it would have routed me in
a different direction than the one I took, which has
ended up being really interesting and fun and you know,
difficult at times, certainly. But I don't know what are
the downsides to medication. You have to incorporate that into
your analysis.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, no doubt or upsides that maybe, you know, I've
never had medication of those kinds.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Maybe if I ever had some medication. I don't know
that I.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Do have any of these things that this woman said
I have. But if I did or do, and I'd
taken any medication where all of a sudden, oh wow,
this must.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Be what it's like for other people to try to
pay attention, maybe it would.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Have been awesome, But knowing my personality, I think it's
much more likely that i'd had I got an excuse,
yeah for not getting my ass done. Finally, my ship
has come in. I don't know if i'd have done
that or not, or if kids do that. I have
no idea to.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That point, and I don't have it readily in front
of me.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
But there's now a growing awareness that the fact that
like two thirds of all college students claim to need
special dispensation to take tests or whatever has become completely unworkable.
They're having to figure out what to do now because
it's just become idiotic. Everybody's got a special need now.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
But if I was told I had something when I
was eight, with the exact same life I've lived, personality
i've lived, how much would that bore into my mind
of reason why I can't do this or I shouldn't
be held to a standard for that. I don't know,
but it would have to have an effect. Katie looked
like you wanted to say something.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Well, A friend of mine realized that she was having
a lot of trouble concentrating and she got diagnosed with ADHD.
I think when she was twenty six, and then they
gave her medication and she stopped taking it because she
said it totally messed with my personalityged it changed who
she was. So I wonder if that would happen as
a child, You would.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
People like that with me, if it totally changed my
person she's no comment.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
So a young man I know who is thirty two,
thirty thirty two, thirty three, thirty three, who looks a
lot like me, but it's taller. Recently got saw a
doctor about ADHD problems because he suspected that he has that,
(08:52):
and indeed got medication number one and it messed with
him and was bad.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Medication number two.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Is great, and he's thrilled, really really happy about it. Interesting, Okay,
he says he can he can focus on things for
you know, thirty seconds at a time and not three
seconds at a time or even longer than that, and
it's just made all the difference in the world, which
is interesting because nobody who's known him since the day
he was born.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Realized that was going on, and neither did he. What
made him realize it, like self awareness.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think that the more you live and the more
you experience, the more you realize, wait a minute, other
people seem to do this easily, and it's making me insane.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
If I figured out at age sixty a little tweak
here there, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sudden, I can do various things that I've struggled with
my whole life, I'd be nuts.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I don't know that I'm going to seek that out,
and the last thing I need is to go down
that road at this point. But I have no idea,
and I don't want to respond to emails and texts
about not believing in medication or diagnosis because I'm a
million miles from that. If you've been listening to the
show for a long time, I have a kid that's
got all kinds of stuff and all kinds of medications.
(10:08):
So I am on that train. But do we do
it more often than we need to? Almost?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Certainly that's true, isn't that one hundred percent? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, any responsible commentator would tell you that about the
and and part of it is the pathologizing of little boys,
how the need to get up and move and have
lots of energy and you need to tire them out
before they can sit still. Is somehow that's that's a condition,
it's toxic macs tolinity or and that's obscene.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
God, it makes me just so angry to even think about.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I wish I could actually run that parallel universe experiment
with you know, me or anyone else where. One you
tell them they've got an excuse, and one you don't
tell them and see which turns out better. Don't actually know, Yeah,
I think it would probably very kid to kid.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Here's a strong statement.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I have not evaluated this statement for its effectiveness. Side
effects include diarrhea, pounding, headaches, and eye bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Erections more than four hours. Oh, erections last for four days?
Are you kidding me? Oh my god? How am I
supposed to sleep? So here is my strong statement.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
That sort of revelation would hit with people roughly like
all obstacles hit with that person. Some people see an obstacle,
they lay down and quit and blame it for the
rest of their lives. Some people think, nah, all right,
that's what I got to deal with, and they deal
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It would be similar to like most setbacks. I don't know. Again,
I just that's off the top of my head. I
don't know. I really really don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's my wheels have been turning turning ever since this
person said to me, Oh, you're obviously on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You don't know that?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Really? You know? I would have been offended myself, thank you.
I think I should have thrown a punch or something.
Totally haymaker. I wouldn't be offended that really if.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
You told your boss I know you're yelling at me,
but you're only doing it because you're on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's not gonna go. For instance.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, oh I don't think I am, but I
don't actually know. Is so are a lot of the
geniuses that have done all the genius stuff throughout history.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So I'm not I'm not that either genius. Well yeah,
I'm sure that is coming out any second. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
You know what's an really interesting question is should you
investigate it now?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But yeah, that's what I've been thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, I do have social stuff that is outside
of the norm.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I think, yeah, oh yeah, you are as am I,
but not quite as far down the road of anti
social you know, just being an introvert social anxiety.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Rather get in a fistfight than have somebody hug me,
for instance, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
That's kind of spectromy Yeah, spectroy.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Else what else goes with that? I wonder? Oh gosh,
it's it's a grab bag your results.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Do I get special parking spots or anything? I mean,
i'd look into it. If I get to like park
closer to the store. Do you want a placard? I
want a placard. I want a tax deduction. I got
real bad ahgadhd.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Sometimes I wander off and I can't find my car
because I can't concentrate.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I need to park in the first six spaces.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Please?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Do I get to board first in planes? I mean,
what else comes with this?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
If I? If I go ahead and pursue.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
This fast, but then you can be with people longer.
A fast pass, last pass at the theme park. See,
here's all kinds of things that are gonna come. Let
me in imagine mountain.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Let me in.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Let me I have the ad H day. I can't
focus right, I'm barely on the spectrum. Give me something,
Give me something. It's the arm Strong and Getty show.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Armstrong, arm Strong, the arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So I was just wondering. I did this at the
Christmas party yesterday. I went around and ask everybody what
their grade was for the year. What's your grade for
the year for your life?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Michael? Your life this year? How was it compared to
other years?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I'd say overall A B plus B plus none A
for your year.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, that's good, Katie, I'm gonna go A minus. Okay,
you got pregnant this year.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I did not easy though not easy, A lot of good,
lot of rough. So we'll go AM minus.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Okay, cool, Hanson. What do you give your grade for
the year for your life? A? C? Wow, Hanson coming
into the C. But that's not inflated grade C. That's
that's like just average year old school C. Yeah, I
guess see. I don't know if there's a story behind
that or what I remember. Well, i'll give my grade.
(15:33):
I would be probably a B plus A minus B
plus in there. I don't know why I don't. I
don't know what this is about my personality. I have
a I regularly say negative things and have a negative outlook,
but like for my own life, I always think things
are fine and gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And uh, other than the year, my wife don't mean
which I think I gave that year A D or
and half.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm usually at a B plus or a minus rough one.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your ear, yeah, exactly,
exactly in the grave, and then you can't say what
your grade is.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh yeah, I've got you know. It's funny.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I've got to review the year in my head. I
gotta go a minus. It's been lovely in a lot
of ways. Some challenges and sadness, and you know, a
little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's it's
it's been a pretty good year personally.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But your your personality, Would you ever go much lower
than an A?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, it depends what happens, all right, you know the
wife dumping you thing like I mentioned, that's that's a
tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well yeah, I mean, well, there are a number of
things that could happen.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
If I lost my job, in a tornado, took my house,
I suppose that'd be a lower grade.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Well, right, so I don't understand your question. Would I
ever go below B minus? Yes, if I side shotten, used,
the lost the use of my legs, yes I would.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary currence?
Because you you said Hanson c was just kind of
like the old fashioned graving kind of an average year.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well year, So is your average year in a oh yeah, yeah,
definitely in your your solid B. If I was to
average out a bunch of years, yeah, something like that.
I feel like my average year is like a B
plus or he minus. I don't know what that means.
Hanson's a tough grader. He is you are a tough grater, Hanson.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, Well, maybe he needs to get on the air
and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's
your abuse that kept it from the ND. I don't
know the guy caused it to be a c I'm
just asking the here here, I learned this from Tucker.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Arm Strong, the Armstrong and Getty Shart.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
What did Yeah, you know, I've got a pretty good
immune system for stuff like normal diseases that go around.
I usually don't get them. What would it be like
if I ate better? I might be impenetrable, could be.
But you're you're just at the raising little kids.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Now you have teenagers, so you have been enrolled in
the marine boot camp. Right of immune systems raising children.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So I've got a number of people in my orbit
who take nothing when they get a cold.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
They believe it's all bs and they don't take anything.
I take a few things. Do you take anything? Do
you think anything works? Katie's nodding her head. We'll start
with you. I take theraflu. You take theraflu. I have
found that to work. I don't care if it's Placebia.
If I suffer from Placebia, doesn't matter of me. As
long as I feel better. I don't need anybody told
(18:36):
me it doesn't actually do.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't care. I feel better. Do you take me?
Like tile and all or I view profen.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
At one point I was down with the zinc, but
I couldn't figure out what form. And I just kind
of remember when nobody got a cold during COVID. Yeah,
I've fallen out of I don't remember what to do anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I got a bottle of it's I you know something
or other.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
They say take one cold first you first start to
get the symptoms of a cold, and it's zinc and
a couple other things.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I don't know if they do anything.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
But I feel like if I take that, if I
do get the cold, it's much milder.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Again, might be in my head. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I also use Zycham, yeah, which is awesome. I've heard
people recommend sinuses and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I tend not to trust my own experience because the
data set isn't big enough.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But I don't know. I have no information that there's anything.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Wrong with taking that stuff, and what the hell it
worst is harmless. But you're not a take nothing guy
or no, I am, pretty much, although I'm thinking now
that you mentioned it, maybe I'll take some tile and
all or something. I actually my symptoms aren't that bad
other than just overwhelming fatigue at this point.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Now, do you guys take Nike will And that's what
I do, and I go to sleep afraid of it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're afraid of night time niquil? Yeah, well, with our hours,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
If I wake up groggy or oversleep, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Alcoholics are not supposed to take NyQuil because it's basically
taken a shot alcohol.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You can sleep. Yeah, I don't, for the reason Katie cided.
I just it's hard enough to get up in the
morning and be semi sharp.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Listeners of the first hour of the radio show are
saying not very sharp.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
One thing with giving your kids stuff, you kind of
have a better gauge of whether it's actually doing anything
or not, especially when they're little. They're too young to
like and uh, most stuff I don't think does much.
All right, Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Remember when that one thing that was ubiquitous on the
still a drug store shelves of America.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's still in every freaking drug I buy, Every cold
medicine you buy still has that fenel en run or
whatever it's called in it.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And the government announced it does nothing. We're completely different.
The FDA said it does zero zero. It's a nothing
and it's an iriny cold medicine. Still, you're wasting your.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Time on the fenyl hellamelo, mellow hell right, hell of Well,
how do you say it, Katie?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You're looking at it? But so it's on yours. What
are you looking at? Right there? This is DayQuil.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
When I had this flu last time around, I took
everything under the sun that I could get my hands
on because I was trying to get rid of that crap. Yeah,
it's in here too.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Every cold medicine in every aisle of every store that
sells cold medicine has drugs full of that and the
government announced it doesn't do anything. I just think that's weird,
just counting on that people don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It's because it's funny to say, oh yeah, yeah, well,
the percentage of people you know. Honestly, we've posed this
question in many contexts in recent days and through the years.
What percentage of Americans? One of us will ask the
other do you think knows that any story or anything? Yeah,
and in this case, what percentage do you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Think could tell you?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Oh yeah, fenol elephant here is it was worthless?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I remember that news story be a very very small number.
I suppose you're right. Okay, this says Feda left Freen,
Fennel Lafreen. That's what you at.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Okay, Fenne left fren Fenelefrine, I like your guys is better? Elephant? Well,
since it doesn't do anything, I'll call it whatever I
want to call it. It's a bunch of wowches, hilarious.
What you got too much blood in your body is
(22:30):
your problem?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You got to bleed your feet. You don't have the
uh stomach to actually slice open your own feet. Isn't
that what killed George Washington?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, well, it hastened his death. Certainly. Yeah, I don't
know why.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Well, I'm a bit of a history freak and a
bit of a medical history hobbyist and a great admirer
of George Washington. That was I listened with rapt attention
and like committed it all the memory there in his
bedroom where he died, as you're there by his bedside,
probably a recreation. But and they explained that, yeah, he
(23:08):
had what did they think he had? I can't remember
the disease. I didn't memorize it that effectively, obviously, But
the doctors in he probably did not have aids.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
He was an honorable and elderly man anyway that the
doctors in treating him for what was probably whatever the hell,
just kept saying, yeah, we got to bleed the feet
and let out the bad humors. And he'd like grally
a little bit, and they'd think, yeah, we probably ought
to bleed his feet more.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Heed, what if you don't have enough red blood cells? Anemia?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
He probably much and all that for a throat infection
is what the interwebs said, too much.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Blood is your problem?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, struptococcal infection or something. He should have taken some
phenahell element a little bit elephant. Uh, so I started
out the podcast. I figure I might as well pay
it off. And this is this is pleasant and delightful.
A bread making craze has begun in my extended family.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh cool.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I remember during the pandemic when people started doing that,
and so yeah, oddly.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Enough, it began with a relative who has some sensory issues. Jack,
something you know about, and certainly I do, having raised
an autistic daughter. But anyway, a certain homemade bread seemed
to be great, and it happens to be unfreaking believably delicious.
I'm going to keep things vague to protect the innocent,
(24:36):
but say my it was my uncle Morty, and we
would make reference to Morti bread and how good it was,
and Morty when he would come for a visit would
always leave a loaf. And when I was through with
Morty bread, I was very very sad because it was
so good. Before I leave work today, oh god, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Boy, you know Jack, you know what Katie? I just
do you want to go off and do our own thing?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Could we?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Would you take? We wouldn't ever. Yeah, Michael, you're higher
and you can watch Jack. We're out here. You can
you guess this is.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Going to be like and this, this is this happened
to me at least once in my youth. It was
explained to me, Hey, the band has got to break up.
We just we can't do this and it's too much
trouble to do that. And so we're breaking up. And
then a week later here, yeah they're playing. He just
got a different dude playing in your instrument.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh my god. Yeah, wow, So that's what we're doing
to Jack right now. Yeah, we I'm really not gonna
do it radio anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's like the they break up with you because I
just I just don't think I should be in a
relationship right now. And then you see him walking down
the street holding hands with somebody. Ye next weekend, Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun. Okay,
the bread making, I am.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's something I would like to actually learn how to
do one because I love homemade bread and it just
seems like could be a cool craft.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
And I pronounced, having enjoyed some Morti bread and then
switched back to the regular stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh my god, it's just so much better.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And so Judy got a new mixer because our old
mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's
got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made
a couple of loafs of what's known as the morty bread.
And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, although
one of her two cats stepped on the bread as
it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,
(26:28):
and so one of the loaves is robust and very
healthy looking, and the other loaf is really just, excuse me, loaf?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Whatcuse? I can't ruined it? Damn cats.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go
ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at
three hundred and fifty degrees for half an hour or
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It's fine. I don't know that I want letter box bread. Yeah.
This tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,
I will tell you this.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,
she does occasionally get ready to bleeper. She does occasionally
refer to their mittens because they yell.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
They pooh out, they poo in the box, then they
walk out of the box. Sure, that's that's see, that's
not a tasty Termunds.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Like they dip their taws and some paus and some
sort of disinfectant on their way out. Must clean the
palls after one poos. You know they don't do that.
That's a great term. It is, and discuss you've got
cats and Michael, I'm going to use that term patting
around in Smitton's all over your house.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm gonna start calling people mittens. This is great. Oh
my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize. I
work at this guy and working with told me the
other day, but a bunch of mittens around here? Why
do I put up with it?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
I know?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Where was I? Oh? I was gonna talk about the
various things that are so far superior in their homemade version, right,
but we've kind of drifted so far away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like I brewed beer for a while. My brother brewised
beer and it's so good.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime
we visit his house he has home brewed beer in
kegs on tap.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Oh, it's so although if I lived like that, I
would be a flaming alcohol like in three hundred and
seventy five pounds. What if there's a downside, But I'd
be happy and I wouldn't be thinking about my problems,
and people would be more interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But bread might be at the top of the list.
Beer is close.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I say cookies, and I'm a bit of a purest,
maybe a bit of a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I know that's hard to imagine. I will not eat
store bought cookies. I just I want because the calories
and the taste.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
No. Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys,
the picture of of her break that I made, they were.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So I know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Homemade is it's it's it's just it's like sex. It's
so good.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,
and homemade butter is just so much better than what
he did in the store.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's like a different thing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You've each brother, I wouldn't know if you put homemade,
and I had forgotten how good it was. So this
field trip my son went on to a couple of
years ago, they churned butter. They I spent more time
churning than the kids did. But as I was one
of the chaperones, but I churned up exactly their weedy
little arms. I churned up the butter, and I'd forgotten
how good it is. You put homemade butter on homemade
(29:41):
bread and you have a flip and treat right there.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying
to make sour dough bread because that's my favorite, oh
of life, and I haven't I haven't gotten it down
yet because it's complicated.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
But yeah, we missed the whole getting arder going during
COVID thing.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I wish we had.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But yeah, Jack, I'm sure there are semi overpriced like
electric butter turns you can get from you know, Sharper
Image or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Pilot.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
We did it the old timey away with a look
like the thing you've seen in old timy movies with
a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.
It kind of looks a little sexual, But I mean,
you're you're doing this thing. Sometimes a cigar is just
a cigar. But yeah, homemade butter, that's that's what you
gotta add. You have homemade bread with homemade butter.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh wow, got to do it. I'm looking at how
to make homemade butter. It doesn't look that difficult. It's
not hard at all. I'm gonna try it today. Do it? Yeah,
and then report back.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Oh so good, Get me a tub, not that sort
of stuff that'st and sell over there at the store.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh, I know it, I know it.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
My mom bakes bread and she's the sweetest woman ever.
But when her yeast doesn't rise, f bombs.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Out of the kitchen. Man, Danger, Danger, Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Anyway, speaking of petting zoos, Katie, what what what are
you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Just you know, I'm very grateful to be pregnant, but
some of the stuff that happens along with it is
just hilarious. And people, the lack of filter or judgment
calls on what to do and what not to do
has blown my mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I was out and about the other welcome to the
sisterhood of are you eving kidding me with this? Right? Yeah?
That pretty much.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
So I'm out the other day and there's this one
particular woman who she already bothers me in ways I
don't need to get into. But she comes up to
me and goes, so is your belly poppin yette? And
she rubs me like I'm a bodo.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
First of all, whoa that?
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I mean? Because I've never never in my life have
had I have I ever had somebody just come up
and decide.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
To rub my belly? Uh virtually.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm barely showing I have, you know, and
I wear hoodies all the time, so it's like, I'm not,
you can't really tell I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well that's why we got to rub on your belly, kittie,
just to be sure.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And she goes, you know, she rubs my belly,
and I'm kind of like in that what what the moment?
And I hadn't said anything, you know, and she goes, oh,
not yet, So what have you been eating? And I'm
like like and I told her, you know, everything sour
and you know whatever, and she goes, oh, it's definitely
a girl.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I'm like, no, that's fine. I mean, I know, but
you can't be touching people.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Well, so then she graduates from the belly rub and
I'm already not a touchy person. I don't I'm not
the like as a girl growing up. I wasn't like
the link arms with my girlfriend's kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I just don't do that.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
The next thing she goes for she starts grabbing my hair.
She's like, so, has your hair gotten any thicker? And
I looked at her, Oh yeah, we'll call her Barb.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I might Barb.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm not an animal at a petting zoo. Okay. I
totally flashed on her. I was like, oh, oh, yeah,
you showed your fingers. She earned that completely. I mean
it was like, from the belly up to my head.
I'm just like, nice, the oil oil check is next.
I mean, where's she going with this? That's what I
was thinking. It was just very it was very strange.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
And I told my mom about it, and she's like, yeah,
you know, some people are gonna and I'm like, no,
they're not, because I'm I now know that that's coming.
And if I even see a remote reach, I mean
we like wax on wax off.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know, Oh, what is the mindset?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
How do you arrive at the mindset that it's okay
for me to touch this person I've never touched before.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Does she have kids? Yeah, she's right, she's been pregnant,
so we're friendly. I mean, like I I don't.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
She drives me nuts, but like when I see her,
I'll give her, you know, the single arm hug. Hey,
how you doing that type of stuff, but just immediately
go in for that with one arm.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, you know, I can.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I can forgive her more than other people. It's still
an amazing lack of insight. But she and then I
only know this having you know, lived through three pregnancies
and my wife and blah blah blah, and and talk
to her and other people. But she believes you are
now part of the same club of having performed the
(34:44):
miracle of creating life, and that is so incredibly transcendent
that you now understand something that other people, particularly men
or non birthing people.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm sorry to use the incorrect, the old timey term men.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
That's sarcasm, clearly, but there's something that other people can
never understand.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
So she thinks you're really bound by that.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
But and yet.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Either she was one of those person people who is
completely one of those women who was completely unoffended when
near strangers groped her to see how she was coming along,
and it never occurred to her that another pregnant lady
might find that incredibly annoying.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I just mean dilated yet Yeah, no kidding, Let's see
how dilate.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Let's check. Let's figure out it was quite bold. I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
And the only other, the only other thing that I've
I've gotten quite a bit is that I look tired.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Oh I am tired.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Thank you, a comment nobody wants to hear in any circumstances.
And but nobody said, hey, is the boob Fairy come
to visit at Hong Kong? Because that's somebody, somebody.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I have a feeling somebody's just gonna come check me
one of these days. Those things are huge, now, yes,
thank you, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gretty, the Armstrong and Gatty Shoe
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Okayddy, we're still on vacation. We're trying to get ready
for twenty six. I mean, we had a lot of
shows to do in twenty six. We're just we're studying up.
We're getting plenty of sleep, taking vitamins, all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
But this is still replays of the Armstrong and Geeddy show.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yes, it's still early in the year, and we're all
brimming with optimism and cheery goodwill. Things will go to
you know what, soon enough, So let's enjoy some carefully
selected replay stuff highlights best of if you will. It's
thee Armstrong in Giddy replay. We've talked about this before, and.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You've had a comment about it, Joe, which you'll probably
repeat here. Starting I'll start with this, and I almost
never work this side of the street about autism and kids'
mental health problems, but this is from the Washington That's
the one that Byron York works for Free Beacon or
Washington Times.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I can never remember one of them.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Diagnosis rates of autism among children have more than tripled
over the past fifteen years. We know that one reason
which Minnesota's welfare scandal has laid bare with shocking details
is Medicaid fraud and abuse. Now we've been talking a
lot about the Minnesota thing, and in particular, they're fraud
which might lead the nation. Medicaid pays healthcare providers big
(01:40):
bucks to diagnose and treat children with autism, sometimes tens
of thousand dollars a month for a single child, Yet
states rarely verify that kids were diagnosed actually meet the
medical criteria for the disorder. So if you put down
that you've got an autistic kid, nobody confirms it or
not apparently Lisa Mine, he's quoting Alicia Finley's piece in
(02:00):
the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, or they get appropriate treatment
from qualified specialists. You don't have to one confirm you
got a diagnosis or two show that you're using the
money for any sort of treatment or anything like that.
The results have to get lots of money. Children covered
by Medicaid or the government run Children's Health insurance program
are two and a half times more likely than those
with private coverage to be diagnosed with autism. Now, I
(02:23):
suppose you could tease it out and have some reason
that kids with private coverage are less exposed to plastics
or cell phone towers or whatever the hell we think
causes autism.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, I had a thought pop up, but then
I corrected it.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I was thinking, well, maybe the uh and this is
not my point of view, but I'm just expressing it.
Maybe the greedy, selfish private insurance companies refuse to pay
for treatment. But then no, it's it's just diagnosis. It's
not treatments of any kind. Two and a half times
more likely to be diagnosed autistic.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The final sentence being many lower income kids are labeled
autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems. And
that's kind of actually what I wanted to get into.
So people always say, well, you know, is there more
autism or did we just used to overlook it and
not called anything. There's some of that, of course, but
that's not the vast majority of it. And I've talked
to people who researched this for a living. It's not
(03:18):
even close to explaining where we are. And if you've
had kids in the modern world, you know there's way
more kids with way more problems that ever existed when
you were young, depending on your age.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, it's just it's just a fact. And this
leads me to what I really wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Is this So a woman who knows me, grown woman
with kids, she brought this, She said this the other day,
just offhandedly. She she actually has four kids, three of
them autistic, three autistic boys, one of them severely autistic. Wow,
she said, well, you're clearly on the spectrum somewhere to me.
(03:58):
Is that what she said? Oh, oh yeah, yeah, I
can diagnose it from a mile away. You're clearly She said,
you're obviously ADHD. I assume you know that, and I
said no, I've never thought about it for a second.
She said, you're clearly ADHD, and you're probably almost certainly
on the spectrum some certain I thought, wow, that is
I've never even thought about this before.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's really interesting, which gets to my whole.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Parallel universe thing. I don't know if I am or not.
I'm a sixty year old man who's been relatively successful.
My life has lived. I'm not sure it makes any
difference at this point, but if I would, I would
love to go back in a parallel universe and have
me diagnosed with something at age whatever, put in maybe
(04:41):
special classes, maybe given medication, whatever goes along with it,
and see how I would have turned out versus ignoring
it my whole life.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll be fascinating. Uh yeah, absolutely, I've long.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Fantasized about, you know, just seeing that because it's such
an intriguing question. I think for everybody, what if I
had taken a left instead of a right? Uh huh,
you know, career wise, you know, the partner wise, just
one hundred things.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
How would that have played out? It's just so intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, specifically on this medical thing, it is the question
of Now, if you're severely anything, obviously you need to
diagnosis in probably some sort of either therapy or medication.
But if you're that mild version that a lot of
kids are, are you better off never being told that
you have some special reason to be not paying attention
(05:35):
or struggle in life?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think so? Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Like I wasn't told I have any special reason too,
even though some woman just told me the other.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Day I do.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Are you better off just thinking God, I suck at this,
I better work harder.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Wow, that's that's a really difficult question to answer simply say. Yeah,
I'd say is It depends obviously, as you indicated on.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
This eficeity of the situation.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, there's something to be said for figuring out like
I did, because I one hundred percent would have been
diagnosed in school with ADHD.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was just way, way too slow for me. It
made me insane. Do you think it would have been
helpful to you?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
See, that's that's where it starts to get really complicated. Yes,
in a way, but it would have routed me in
a different direction than the one I took, which has
ended up being really interesting and fun and you know,
difficult at times, certainly. But I don't know what are
the downsides to medication. You have to incorporate that into
your analysis.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, no doubt or upsides that maybe, you know, I've
never had medication of those kinds.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Maybe if I ever had some medication. I don't know
that I.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Do have any of these things that this woman said
I have. But if I did or do, and I'd
taken any medication where all of a sudden, oh wow,
this must.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Be what it's like for other people to try to
pay attention, maybe it would.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Have been awesome, But knowing my personality, I think it's
much more likely that i'd had I got an excuse,
yeah for not getting my ass done. Finally, my ship
has come in. I don't know if i'd have done
that or not, or if kids do that. I have
no idea to.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That point, and I don't have it readily in front
of me.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
But there's now a growing awareness that the fact that
like two thirds of all college students claim to need
special dispensation to take tests or whatever has become completely unworkable.
They're having to figure out what to do now because
it's just become idiotic. Everybody's got a special need now.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
But if I was told I had something when I
was eight, with the exact same life I've lived, personality
i've lived, how much would that bore into my mind
of reason why I can't do this or I shouldn't
be held to a standard for that. I don't know,
but it would have to have an effect. Katie looked
like you wanted to say something.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Well, A friend of mine realized that she was having
a lot of trouble concentrating and she got diagnosed with ADHD.
I think when she was twenty six, and then they
gave her medication and she stopped taking it because she
said it totally messed with my personalityged it changed who
she was. So I wonder if that would happen as
a child, You would.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
People like that with me, if it totally changed my
person she's no comment.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
So a young man I know who is thirty two,
thirty thirty two, thirty three, thirty three, who looks a
lot like me, but it's taller. Recently got saw a
doctor about ADHD problems because he suspected that he has that,
(08:52):
and indeed got medication number one and it messed with
him and was bad.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Medication number two.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Is great, and he's thrilled, really really happy about it. Interesting, Okay,
he says he can he can focus on things for
you know, thirty seconds at a time and not three
seconds at a time or even longer than that, and
it's just made all the difference in the world, which
is interesting because nobody who's known him since the day
he was born.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Realized that was going on, and neither did he. What
made him realize it, like self awareness.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think that the more you live and the more
you experience, the more you realize, wait a minute, other
people seem to do this easily, and it's making me insane.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
If I figured out at age sixty a little tweak
here there, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sudden, I can do various things that I've struggled with
my whole life, I'd be nuts.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I don't know that I'm going to seek that out,
and the last thing I need is to go down
that road at this point. But I have no idea,
and I don't want to respond to emails and texts
about not believing in medication or diagnosis because I'm a
million miles from that. If you've been listening to the
show for a long time, I have a kid that's
got all kinds of stuff and all kinds of medications.
(10:08):
So I am on that train. But do we do
it more often than we need to? Almost?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Certainly that's true, isn't that one hundred percent? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, any responsible commentator would tell you that about the
and and part of it is the pathologizing of little boys,
how the need to get up and move and have
lots of energy and you need to tire them out
before they can sit still. Is somehow that's that's a condition,
it's toxic macs tolinity or and that's obscene.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
God, it makes me just so angry to even think about.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I wish I could actually run that parallel universe experiment
with you know, me or anyone else where. One you
tell them they've got an excuse, and one you don't
tell them and see which turns out better. Don't actually know, Yeah,
I think it would probably very kid to kid.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Here's a strong statement.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I have not evaluated this statement for its effectiveness. Side
effects include diarrhea, pounding, headaches, and eye bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Erections more than four hours. Oh, erections last for four days?
Are you kidding me? Oh my god? How am I
supposed to sleep? So here is my strong statement.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
That sort of revelation would hit with people roughly like
all obstacles hit with that person. Some people see an obstacle,
they lay down and quit and blame it for the
rest of their lives. Some people think, nah, all right,
that's what I got to deal with, and they deal
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It would be similar to like most setbacks. I don't know. Again,
I just that's off the top of my head. I
don't know. I really really don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's my wheels have been turning turning ever since this
person said to me, Oh, you're obviously on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You don't know that?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Really? You know? I would have been offended myself, thank you.
I think I should have thrown a punch or something.
Totally haymaker. I wouldn't be offended that really if.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
You told your boss I know you're yelling at me,
but you're only doing it because you're on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's not gonna go. For instance.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, oh I don't think I am, but I
don't actually know. Is so are a lot of the
geniuses that have done all the genius stuff throughout history.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So I'm not I'm not that either genius. Well yeah,
I'm sure that is coming out any second. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
You know what's an really interesting question is should you
investigate it now?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But yeah, that's what I've been thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, I do have social stuff that is outside
of the norm.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I think, yeah, oh yeah, you are as am I,
but not quite as far down the road of anti
social you know, just being an introvert social anxiety.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Rather get in a fistfight than have somebody hug me,
for instance, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
That's kind of spectromy Yeah, spectroy.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Else what else goes with that? I wonder? Oh gosh,
it's it's a grab bag your results.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Do I get special parking spots or anything? I mean,
i'd look into it. If I get to like park
closer to the store. Do you want a placard? I
want a placard. I want a tax deduction. I got
real bad ahgadhd.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Sometimes I wander off and I can't find my car
because I can't concentrate.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I need to park in the first six spaces.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Please?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Do I get to board first in planes? I mean,
what else comes with this?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
If I? If I go ahead and pursue.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
This fast, but then you can be with people longer.
A fast pass, last pass at the theme park. See,
here's all kinds of things that are gonna come. Let
me in imagine mountain.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Let me in.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Let me I have the ad H day. I can't
focus right, I'm barely on the spectrum. Give me something,
Give me something. It's the arm Strong and Getty show.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Armstrong, arm Strong, the arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So I was just wondering. I did this at the
Christmas party yesterday. I went around and ask everybody what
their grade was for the year. What's your grade for
the year for your life?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Michael? Your life this year? How was it compared to
other years?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I'd say overall A B plus B plus none A
for your year.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, that's good, Katie, I'm gonna go A minus. Okay,
you got pregnant this year.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I did not easy though not easy, A lot of good,
lot of rough. So we'll go AM minus.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Okay, cool, Hanson. What do you give your grade for
the year for your life? A? C? Wow, Hanson coming
into the C. But that's not inflated grade C. That's
that's like just average year old school C. Yeah, I
guess see. I don't know if there's a story behind
that or what I remember. Well, i'll give my grade.
(15:33):
I would be probably a B plus A minus B
plus in there. I don't know why I don't. I
don't know what this is about my personality. I have
a I regularly say negative things and have a negative outlook,
but like for my own life, I always think things
are fine and gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And uh, other than the year, my wife don't mean
which I think I gave that year A D or
and half.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm usually at a B plus or a minus rough one.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your ear, yeah, exactly,
exactly in the grave, and then you can't say what
your grade is.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh yeah, I've got you know. It's funny.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I've got to review the year in my head. I
gotta go a minus. It's been lovely in a lot
of ways. Some challenges and sadness, and you know, a
little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's it's
it's been a pretty good year personally.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But your your personality, Would you ever go much lower
than an A?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, it depends what happens, all right, you know the
wife dumping you thing like I mentioned, that's that's a
tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well yeah, I mean, well, there are a number of
things that could happen.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
If I lost my job, in a tornado, took my house,
I suppose that'd be a lower grade.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Well, right, so I don't understand your question. Would I
ever go below B minus? Yes, if I side shotten, used,
the lost the use of my legs, yes I would.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary currence?
Because you you said Hanson c was just kind of
like the old fashioned graving kind of an average year.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well year, So is your average year in a oh yeah, yeah,
definitely in your your solid B. If I was to
average out a bunch of years, yeah, something like that.
I feel like my average year is like a B
plus or he minus. I don't know what that means.
Hanson's a tough grader. He is you are a tough grater, Hanson.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, Well, maybe he needs to get on the air
and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's
your abuse that kept it from the ND. I don't
know the guy caused it to be a c I'm
just asking the here here, I learned this from Tucker.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Arm Strong, the Armstrong and Getty Shart.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
What did Yeah, you know, I've got a pretty good
immune system for stuff like normal diseases that go around.
I usually don't get them. What would it be like
if I ate better? I might be impenetrable, could be.
But you're you're just at the raising little kids.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Now you have teenagers, so you have been enrolled in
the marine boot camp. Right of immune systems raising children.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So I've got a number of people in my orbit
who take nothing when they get a cold.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
They believe it's all bs and they don't take anything.
I take a few things. Do you take anything? Do
you think anything works? Katie's nodding her head. We'll start
with you. I take theraflu. You take theraflu. I have
found that to work. I don't care if it's Placebia.
If I suffer from Placebia, doesn't matter of me. As
long as I feel better. I don't need anybody told
(18:36):
me it doesn't actually do.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't care. I feel better. Do you take me?
Like tile and all or I view profen.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
At one point I was down with the zinc, but
I couldn't figure out what form. And I just kind
of remember when nobody got a cold during COVID. Yeah,
I've fallen out of I don't remember what to do anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I got a bottle of it's I you know something
or other.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
They say take one cold first you first start to
get the symptoms of a cold, and it's zinc and
a couple other things.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I don't know if they do anything.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
But I feel like if I take that, if I
do get the cold, it's much milder.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Again, might be in my head. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I also use Zycham, yeah, which is awesome. I've heard
people recommend sinuses and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I tend not to trust my own experience because the
data set isn't big enough.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But I don't know. I have no information that there's anything.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Wrong with taking that stuff, and what the hell it
worst is harmless. But you're not a take nothing guy
or no, I am, pretty much, although I'm thinking now
that you mentioned it, maybe I'll take some tile and
all or something. I actually my symptoms aren't that bad
other than just overwhelming fatigue at this point.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Now, do you guys take Nike will And that's what
I do, and I go to sleep afraid of it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're afraid of night time niquil? Yeah, well, with our hours,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
If I wake up groggy or oversleep, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Alcoholics are not supposed to take NyQuil because it's basically
taken a shot alcohol.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You can sleep. Yeah, I don't, for the reason Katie cided.
I just it's hard enough to get up in the
morning and be semi sharp.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Listeners of the first hour of the radio show are
saying not very sharp.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
One thing with giving your kids stuff, you kind of
have a better gauge of whether it's actually doing anything
or not, especially when they're little. They're too young to
like and uh, most stuff I don't think does much.
All right, Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Remember when that one thing that was ubiquitous on the
still a drug store shelves of America.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's still in every freaking drug I buy, Every cold
medicine you buy still has that fenel en run or
whatever it's called in it.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And the government announced it does nothing. We're completely different.
The FDA said it does zero zero. It's a nothing
and it's an iriny cold medicine. Still, you're wasting your.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Time on the fenyl hellamelo, mellow hell right, hell of Well,
how do you say it, Katie?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You're looking at it? But so it's on yours. What
are you looking at? Right there? This is DayQuil.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
When I had this flu last time around, I took
everything under the sun that I could get my hands
on because I was trying to get rid of that crap. Yeah,
it's in here too.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Every cold medicine in every aisle of every store that
sells cold medicine has drugs full of that and the
government announced it doesn't do anything. I just think that's weird,
just counting on that people don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It's because it's funny to say, oh yeah, yeah, well,
the percentage of people you know. Honestly, we've posed this
question in many contexts in recent days and through the years.
What percentage of Americans? One of us will ask the
other do you think knows that any story or anything? Yeah,
and in this case, what percentage do you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Think could tell you?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Oh yeah, fenol elephant here is it was worthless?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I remember that news story be a very very small number.
I suppose you're right. Okay, this says Feda left Freen,
Fennel Lafreen. That's what you at.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Okay, Fenne left fren Fenelefrine, I like your guys is better? Elephant? Well,
since it doesn't do anything, I'll call it whatever I
want to call it. It's a bunch of wowches, hilarious.
What you got too much blood in your body is
(22:30):
your problem?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You got to bleed your feet. You don't have the
uh stomach to actually slice open your own feet. Isn't
that what killed George Washington?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, well, it hastened his death. Certainly. Yeah, I don't
know why.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Well, I'm a bit of a history freak and a
bit of a medical history hobbyist and a great admirer
of George Washington. That was I listened with rapt attention
and like committed it all the memory there in his
bedroom where he died, as you're there by his bedside,
probably a recreation. But and they explained that, yeah, he
(23:08):
had what did they think he had? I can't remember
the disease. I didn't memorize it that effectively, obviously, But
the doctors in he probably did not have aids.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
He was an honorable and elderly man anyway that the
doctors in treating him for what was probably whatever the hell,
just kept saying, yeah, we got to bleed the feet
and let out the bad humors. And he'd like grally
a little bit, and they'd think, yeah, we probably ought
to bleed his feet more.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Heed, what if you don't have enough red blood cells? Anemia?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
He probably much and all that for a throat infection
is what the interwebs said, too much.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Blood is your problem?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, struptococcal infection or something. He should have taken some
phenahell element a little bit elephant. Uh, so I started
out the podcast. I figure I might as well pay
it off. And this is this is pleasant and delightful.
A bread making craze has begun in my extended family.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh cool.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I remember during the pandemic when people started doing that,
and so yeah, oddly.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Enough, it began with a relative who has some sensory issues. Jack,
something you know about, and certainly I do, having raised
an autistic daughter. But anyway, a certain homemade bread seemed
to be great, and it happens to be unfreaking believably delicious.
I'm going to keep things vague to protect the innocent,
(24:36):
but say my it was my uncle Morty, and we
would make reference to Morti bread and how good it was,
and Morty when he would come for a visit would
always leave a loaf. And when I was through with
Morty bread, I was very very sad because it was
so good. Before I leave work today, oh god, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Boy, you know Jack, you know what Katie? I just
do you want to go off and do our own thing?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Could we?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Would you take? We wouldn't ever. Yeah, Michael, you're higher
and you can watch Jack. We're out here. You can
you guess this is.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Going to be like and this, this is this happened
to me at least once in my youth. It was
explained to me, Hey, the band has got to break up.
We just we can't do this and it's too much
trouble to do that. And so we're breaking up. And
then a week later here, yeah they're playing. He just
got a different dude playing in your instrument.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh my god. Yeah, wow, So that's what we're doing
to Jack right now. Yeah, we I'm really not gonna
do it radio anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's like the they break up with you because I
just I just don't think I should be in a
relationship right now. And then you see him walking down
the street holding hands with somebody. Ye next weekend, Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun. Okay,
the bread making, I am.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's something I would like to actually learn how to
do one because I love homemade bread and it just
seems like could be a cool craft.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
And I pronounced, having enjoyed some Morti bread and then
switched back to the regular stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh my god, it's just so much better.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And so Judy got a new mixer because our old
mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's
got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made
a couple of loafs of what's known as the morty bread.
And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, although
one of her two cats stepped on the bread as
it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,
(26:28):
and so one of the loaves is robust and very
healthy looking, and the other loaf is really just, excuse me, loaf?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Whatcuse? I can't ruined it? Damn cats.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go
ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at
three hundred and fifty degrees for half an hour or
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It's fine. I don't know that I want letter box bread. Yeah.
This tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,
I will tell you this.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,
she does occasionally get ready to bleeper. She does occasionally
refer to their mittens because they yell.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
They pooh out, they poo in the box, then they
walk out of the box. Sure, that's that's see, that's
not a tasty Termunds.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Like they dip their taws and some paus and some
sort of disinfectant on their way out. Must clean the
palls after one poos. You know they don't do that.
That's a great term. It is, and discuss you've got
cats and Michael, I'm going to use that term patting
around in Smitton's all over your house.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm gonna start calling people mittens. This is great. Oh
my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize. I
work at this guy and working with told me the
other day, but a bunch of mittens around here? Why
do I put up with it?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
I know?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Where was I? Oh? I was gonna talk about the
various things that are so far superior in their homemade version, right,
but we've kind of drifted so far away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like I brewed beer for a while. My brother brewised
beer and it's so good.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime
we visit his house he has home brewed beer in
kegs on tap.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Oh, it's so although if I lived like that, I
would be a flaming alcohol like in three hundred and
seventy five pounds. What if there's a downside, But I'd
be happy and I wouldn't be thinking about my problems,
and people would be more interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But bread might be at the top of the list.
Beer is close.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I say cookies, and I'm a bit of a purest,
maybe a bit of a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I know that's hard to imagine. I will not eat
store bought cookies. I just I want because the calories
and the taste.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
No. Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys,
the picture of of her break that I made, they were.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So I know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Homemade is it's it's it's just it's like sex. It's
so good.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,
and homemade butter is just so much better than what
he did in the store.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's like a different thing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You've each brother, I wouldn't know if you put homemade,
and I had forgotten how good it was. So this
field trip my son went on to a couple of
years ago, they churned butter. They I spent more time
churning than the kids did. But as I was one
of the chaperones, but I churned up exactly their weedy
little arms. I churned up the butter, and I'd forgotten
how good it is. You put homemade butter on homemade
(29:41):
bread and you have a flip and treat right there.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying
to make sour dough bread because that's my favorite, oh
of life, and I haven't I haven't gotten it down
yet because it's complicated.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
But yeah, we missed the whole getting arder going during
COVID thing.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I wish we had.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But yeah, Jack, I'm sure there are semi overpriced like
electric butter turns you can get from you know, Sharper
Image or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Pilot.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
We did it the old timey away with a look
like the thing you've seen in old timy movies with
a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.
It kind of looks a little sexual, But I mean,
you're you're doing this thing. Sometimes a cigar is just
a cigar. But yeah, homemade butter, that's that's what you
gotta add. You have homemade bread with homemade butter.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh wow, got to do it. I'm looking at how
to make homemade butter. It doesn't look that difficult. It's
not hard at all. I'm gonna try it today. Do it? Yeah,
and then report back.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Oh so good, Get me a tub, not that sort
of stuff that'st and sell over there at the store.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh, I know it, I know it.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
My mom bakes bread and she's the sweetest woman ever.
But when her yeast doesn't rise, f bombs.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Out of the kitchen. Man, Danger, Danger, Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Anyway, speaking of petting zoos, Katie, what what what are
you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Just you know, I'm very grateful to be pregnant, but
some of the stuff that happens along with it is
just hilarious. And people, the lack of filter or judgment
calls on what to do and what not to do
has blown my mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I was out and about the other welcome to the
sisterhood of are you eving kidding me with this? Right? Yeah?
That pretty much.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
So I'm out the other day and there's this one
particular woman who she already bothers me in ways I
don't need to get into. But she comes up to
me and goes, so is your belly poppin yette? And
she rubs me like I'm a bodo.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
First of all, whoa that?
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I mean? Because I've never never in my life have
had I have I ever had somebody just come up
and decide.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
To rub my belly? Uh virtually.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm barely showing I have, you know, and
I wear hoodies all the time, so it's like, I'm not,
you can't really tell I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well that's why we got to rub on your belly, kittie,
just to be sure.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And she goes, you know, she rubs my belly,
and I'm kind of like in that what what the moment?
And I hadn't said anything, you know, and she goes, oh,
not yet, So what have you been eating? And I'm
like like and I told her, you know, everything sour
and you know whatever, and she goes, oh, it's definitely
a girl.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I'm like, no, that's fine. I mean, I know, but
you can't be touching people.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Well, so then she graduates from the belly rub and
I'm already not a touchy person. I don't I'm not
the like as a girl growing up. I wasn't like
the link arms with my girlfriend's kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I just don't do that.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
The next thing she goes for she starts grabbing my hair.
She's like, so, has your hair gotten any thicker? And
I looked at her, Oh yeah, we'll call her Barb.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I might Barb.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm not an animal at a petting zoo. Okay. I
totally flashed on her. I was like, oh, oh, yeah,
you showed your fingers. She earned that completely. I mean
it was like, from the belly up to my head.
I'm just like, nice, the oil oil check is next.
I mean, where's she going with this? That's what I
was thinking. It was just very it was very strange.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
And I told my mom about it, and she's like, yeah,
you know, some people are gonna and I'm like, no,
they're not, because I'm I now know that that's coming.
And if I even see a remote reach, I mean
we like wax on wax off.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know, Oh, what is the mindset?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
How do you arrive at the mindset that it's okay
for me to touch this person I've never touched before.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Does she have kids? Yeah, she's right, she's been pregnant,
so we're friendly. I mean, like I I don't.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
She drives me nuts, but like when I see her,
I'll give her, you know, the single arm hug. Hey,
how you doing that type of stuff, but just immediately
go in for that with one arm.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, you know, I can.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I can forgive her more than other people. It's still
an amazing lack of insight. But she and then I
only know this having you know, lived through three pregnancies
and my wife and blah blah blah, and and talk
to her and other people. But she believes you are
now part of the same club of having performed the
(34:44):
miracle of creating life, and that is so incredibly transcendent
that you now understand something that other people, particularly men
or non birthing people.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm sorry to use the incorrect, the old timey term men.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
That's sarcasm, clearly, but there's something that other people can
never understand.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
So she thinks you're really bound by that.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
But and yet.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Either she was one of those person people who is
completely one of those women who was completely unoffended when
near strangers groped her to see how she was coming along,
and it never occurred to her that another pregnant lady
might find that incredibly annoying.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I just mean dilated yet Yeah, no kidding, Let's see
how dilate.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Let's check. Let's figure out it was quite bold. I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
And the only other, the only other thing that I've
I've gotten quite a bit is that I look tired.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Oh I am tired.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Thank you, a comment nobody wants to hear in any circumstances.
And but nobody said, hey, is the boob Fairy come
to visit at Hong Kong? Because that's somebody, somebody.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I have a feeling somebody's just gonna come check me
one of these days. Those things are huge, now, yes,
thank you, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.