September 2, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour Two of A&G features...
- The Romo Standard...
- The presentation of Measles Death stats sounds familiar...
- The US/Canada trade war...
- The finest military analyst in broadcasting, Mike Lyons, talks about our munitions supply & potential future conflicts...
- He was struck by lightning, then he....
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Tony Romo.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's made tens of millions in his second career after
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Where are you coming from? The golf course.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But this on-camera performance near downtown Milwaukee back in July
put his future in TV on hold.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
A strong odor of alcohol. Feet together.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
A poor execution of field sobriety tests.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
The father of three boys pleaded no contest to charges
of driving while intoxicated.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This public apology followed.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Romo said, multiple back surgeries left me with constant debilitating pain,
a dependence on pain medications, and my efforts to get
off those medications led to an over-reliance on alcohol.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Can't drive drunk. You just can't.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, and you shouldn't, and it's bad, and people get
killed because of drunk driving, but the way we treat
these things, I.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean, if this is his fifth time or whatever,
it happens to lots of people. Like, do you just,
I'm sorry, we can no longer be friends, Jim, for
the rest of our lives, or you can't work here
or whatever over that one, he was golfing with friends
and had more to drink than he realized or whatever.
(01:38):
I don't want it to not be a crime or
anything like that, but we don't cut off. But for celebrities,
we have this, they're found to be a child murderer standard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right. We've, as a society, decided on a sanction for
this crime, and it does not include necessarily public, like, humiliation.
You're going to be embarrassed, but it's not like an
orchestrated campaign of humiliation and loss of career.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Show me where that is in the statutes. It isn't there.
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, and I tell you what, alcohol is underrated as
a painkiller. When I'm dealing with either chronic pain stuff
or injuries, that's when I want to drink. Because, man,
it's the best painkiller on earth.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But it's a bad habit. I don't know if you
heard that. So, we didn't talk about this, I don't think,
at all.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
A couple of weeks ago, there was a big announcement
that two Pennsylvanians had died of the measles. And the
portrayal of the story and the roundtable discussions on cable
news were all about how, and you know the direction
this is going to.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Go, RFK Jr.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
because he's anti-vaccine, has caused lots of people to not
get vaccines, and now a disease that we mostly had
under control like measles is making a comeback. In fact,
Josh Shapiro, the governor of the fifth largest state in America,
held a press conference to announce two measles deaths. And
(03:09):
that's one of the things the free press is on
about today is why is the governor of a big
state taking time to announce the death? It's a relatively
it's rare. It's both rare and common. What is the
right term for that?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
People get measles now and then and die from it
and have all through the vaccinated period of measles. It
doesn't happen very often, but it does happen sometimes. It's
not a shocking occurrence if it would happen. It's not
the sort of thing your governor goes and has a
press conference about. And then the added layer, and you
know exactly what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But the added layer of this is.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The CDC has not confirmed these as deaths from measles.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
The media immediately.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Went to, oh, look, the Trump administration trying to pretend,
trying to cover up the fact that they're anti-vaccine. The
free press says, looking into this, there's no confirmation whatsoever that.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
These are measles deaths.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What it looks like to the free press is these
are people who died of... It's exactly the COVID thing.
They died of other things and had measles. It's like
the did you die of COVID or from COVID thing.
With COVID. With COVID thing, yeah. Did you die from
COVID or with COVID? These people, did they die of measles,
(04:33):
the measles, or die with the measles?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And it looks like.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One of them died with the measles and the other
one may not have had measles at all. And it's
perfectly legitimate, according to Free Press, who does not have
either Trump derangement syndrome or stand up for Trump syndrome
at all at the Free Press. It's just saying this
is replaying the whole COVID era nonsense.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The media and.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The Democrats and the New York Times tried to make
this exhibit A of the anti-vax hysteria of JFK Jr.,
causing people to die from measles and um and then
there's a cover-up and it goes back and forth and
everything like that though we haven't gotten any better than
we were back during the covet era on this.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Story let me let me give folks a hint folks
on the left especially the new york times hey when
you try to prove your case with crappy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Evidence trumped up evidence You weaken your case. You don't
strengthen it. You weaken it. Try to stop doing that.
But I know you won't. I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That's one point that this author, I should figure out
what their name is and mention it, but that's one
of the points they make here in this article is
all it does is discredit the whole thing more to
where people don't believe either side of it because it
becomes so political so fast.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Their main point is.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The governor having a press conference to announce two measles
deaths is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's not a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, well, much like when Gavin Newsom makes an ass
of himself semi-regularly trying to elevate his national profile, that's
what Josh is doing. He was just profiled in the
Wall Street Journal today, I think it was, as an
example of a persuader in politics who helps people who
are undecided see the real story, and he's the opposite
(06:31):
of a rabble rouser that just fires people up.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And gets them to the polls. He's an ideas guy,
so ironic timing.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Alec Berenson of the Free Press, did measles kill two
Pennsylvanians or not?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And says it's perfectly okay that the CDC....
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Is investigating this further before they declare these measles deaths
because it's very squishy as to whether that's.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
True or not.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But all the news outlets, including the New York Times
with splashy headlines, jumped on it immediately. We are exactly
in the same conversation as we were during COVID.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There are a handful of topics, and this is clearly
one of them, where it takes so much work to
to get past the dishonest brokers and the ideologues and
the evidence twisters, the whole vaccine thing, and people who
believe whatever wackadoodle website they favor. It's one of those
stories that I've... Here's my talent, Jack, my secret talent.
(07:27):
I look at a topic and I think, all right,
I can guesstimate how much of my life is going
to be spent trying to get a handle on this thing.
And on that topic, I've just decided, no, no. I'll
focus on 50 other things.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
That's probably why it didn't come up on the show
when everybody was talking about these measles.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Deaths as being a harbinger of things to come in
the RFK Jr. health world.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Thanks to the free press for looking into it and saying, no,
it doesn't even look like it is the measles.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I got the world's worst memory, and you're not a
ton of help on stuff like this, because neither one
of us have that encyclopedic, oh yeah, that was Congressman
Jones back in 84. Anyway, Alex Berenson, wasn't he the
less famous half of the Jake Tapper book when that
came out? No, no, different guy. Yeah, he was the
(08:22):
co-writer of something big. All right, never mind.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Doesn't matter. Take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The Blind Leading the Blind, The Forgetful. Leading the senile.
Whatever's going on here.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Let me do this health note before we take a
break and move on to something else. People text me
about it, ask me about it, because lots of people
are either on GLP-1s or thinking about getting on a GLP-1.
I have been on Zepbound for two and a half weeks.
I constantly either feel a little nauseous or a little
(08:52):
full or something. I haven't liked the way I feel
the entire time. Just my anecdotal evidence.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Katie, you? I feel fine, but Jack, do we have
a BM? Oh, we did finally get there, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's been like six days. A long national nightmare is over.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think I've got that nailed down on what I've
got to take of this or whatever. But I'm so tired.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I've been going to bed at like 7.30 at night
several days in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I've been so tired from And I didn't know why.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
So I chat GPT and can the GLP-1 make you tired?
And it says, yeah, that's for whatever percentage of people.
It makes you incredibly tired, possibly because you're not taking
enough calories.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And I realized yesterday I took in like a thousand calories.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
If you take in only a thousand calories in a
day as a guy who's six foot tall, you're going
to be tired. You're not taking in enough calories and
also your metabolism is working overload.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So that's going to exhaust your body from the inside out.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So the question, if you're thinking about trying one of these,
is do you want to get into the chemistry game
of making sure you get the right amount of fiber
so you can have your BM or.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Taking enough calories that you're not tired at the end
of the day? of the day or whatever? I don't
know if I want to. Do you ever want to
BM again?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, it'd be nice if I never had to ever,
but I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, I would miss it. But, you know, teach.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Their own.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So we're not in a trade war with Canada, according
to Scott Besant, but the words are flying back and
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with Canada coming up in a couple of minutes. Let's see,
what else do we have that's exciting? Oh, my God,
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Ukrainian influencer infiltrated a Russian Zoom meeting about drone production.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I love that. And, oh, did he dick with him?
Sorry for the frank talk. Oh, so good.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The war with Iran seems to be back on, and
we'll talk to my clients at some point about that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We discussed AI.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
We discussed global imbalances where the Canadians have been very strong.
And we discussed how do we put the trade situation
back together. And I think that's going to have to
be done.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
At the leader's level.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Scott Besson there, the U.S. Treasury Secretary, who's now like
the de facto half a Secretary of State, half a
Secretary of War. He seems to be the lead guy
in a handful of things.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Talking about the.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Ongoing talks with Canada over trade and tariffs and the
rest of it. I'm not a big fan of what's
been happening so far, and neither is the Prime Minister
of Canada, who's only the Prime Minister, and the Liberal
Party is only in power because Trump messed with them,
and they got the chance to show how tough they were.
They were about to get swept out and change Canada
(13:03):
for the better. But anyway, here's Mark Carney.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
And when the Americans stop doing memes, stop throwing shade,
stop trying to be tough, and start being serious about
having those discussions, we can have those discussions. But it's
not constructive, but that's their democracy.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's hard to pay attention to the guy unless there's
music behind him.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
And when the Americans stop doing memes, stop... thrown shade
stop trying to be tough uh and start being serious
about having those discussions uh we can have those discussions
but it's not constructive but that's that's their democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I believe the humor there with trump accompanying him on
the recorder thing is.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it's like that he's a whiner is trump up
on the corner of the video playing that Instrument or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Hanson was trying to tell me what he was speaking
in riddles.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So, uh, uh, suggested that prime minister Carney was to
blame for the current political shouting match between the two
countries because the keeping the fight alive was good for.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
His poll numbers. Um, Let's see.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He was asked if his country is in a trade
war with Canada, and Besson said, well, I don't think
you can be in a tit-for-tat with someone that's 13
times larger.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Than you are. I mean, we're not at war with Canada.
How are we going to be at war with Canada?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
What, are they going to take their two submarines from
the Edmonton Mall and sick them on us?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh, that's not helping.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's the throwing shade part. Why are we picking fights
with our closest allies? Explain to me how that helps anything.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Lord.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I came across this. Trump said this yesterday. I don't
know if I can find it real quick, but it
was about how much money, how much money we'll save
by winning this trade war. And most economists don't seem
to think that that is accurate.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, he's had like three different pretexts for why we
need to hammer Canada. First, it was the laughable fentanyl claim.
And then it was, I don't know, something else. And
now it's that we have a trade imbalance. That's because
we buy their oil because it's good oil for us
to refine.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We don't need their product.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So if we cut off trade with that country, we
just made $ 40 billion. You do a few countries like
that and we become a big money machine. A number
of economists have reacted to that saying that's not the
way it works.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Carney pulled Canada's negotiating team in late August after the U.S.
team introduced, quote, last-minute changes that the government deemed unfair
and uneconomic.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He is a punk, by the way, Carney. He's a
waste of skin. He shouldn't be in office. A waste
of skin? That's an insult. You heard me. Ontario Premier
Doug Ford.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Manitoba Premier Waba Kinu have both pushed back against Trump,
with Ford inviting the U.S. president to, quote, kiss my ass.
We remember that one.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And Mr. Kinu comparing Trump to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
An over-the-hill band playing out their last days in a casino, which,
as shots go, is a pretty good shot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah. Yeah, all right. All right.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah. And then Besant said, I think it's very unfortunate
that Prime Minister Carney has turned this into a political
shouting match. He came to power on an anti-American, anti-Trump agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
That's true. He was 20 points behind in the polls,
and then he started this. No, Trump started it. All right.
All right. I'm sick of this.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Things were a little tense at the big G20 finance
ministers pre-meeting in Asheville, North Carolina, I guess.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
By the way, pretty snipey. Among us and our allies.
I pay very little attention to the trade wars. I
pay a ton of attention to the.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Actual war wars.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Russia, Ukraine, us and Iran, hopefully not China and anyone,
anybody soon. I don't think you were here last week
when I was talking about this think tank guy I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Was listening to.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Making the point at people who talk about Iran, Russia,
and China as being.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Kind of an axis, and then some people say, well,
they're not really.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They are working together more in these wars than Japan
and Germany and Italy ever worked together during World War II.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Especially with the news that came out yesterday. Well, you
saw the president of Russia sitting down with the president
of Iran, and Russia saying, we'll do whatever we can
to help you, And then a news story broke that
they're supplying them with some super fancy missile technology and
everything like that. These countries are working together, China, Russia
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and Iran, in a way that's very troubling. And Russia
is lashing out at Europe for their military and financial
support of Ukraine through these gray zone attacks, cyber attacks,
mysterious bombings, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That sort of thing could easily spread.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And we're going to talk to Mike Lyons a little
bit about all this coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
The United States unleashing a series of airstrikes against southwestern
Iran overnight. According to CENTCOM, a variety of IRGC targets
were hit, including air defense sites, radar systems, maritime assets,
mine lane capabilities, and communication sites. President Trump told Fox
News overnight, if they do respond, they'll be hit much harder.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This is a very big hit today.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
If it goes a third time, they're going to be
totally wiped out as a country.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then you got the.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
President of Iran sitting down with the president of Russia, Putin, yesterday, sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Together, doing a little news thing.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And Putin said, we stand with Iran in support and
specifically said that they're going to work very closely with
them in trying to beef up their air defense systems.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So we've both got a narrow focus, a series of
questions for military analyst Mike Lyons, and we'll go a
bit broader.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But Mike, how are you, sir? Welcome.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Hey, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
What are your first thoughts on the re-engagement with the
kinetic action between us and Iran?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Well, it's still not to the level that is really
going to matter. It's still, to me, somewhat responding back
and forth. I think the attack that we made at
that Lark Island was a target of opportunity, so to speak.
It's the main threat of them. having this capability to
use coastal batteries and close-in weapon systems to knock out
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some of those ships that are going through there. They
go after Jordan. We use air defense systems to go back.
So I still don't think we're at that point yet
where it's a full-on military adventure yet.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Well, good.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
What did you make of Putin sitting down with the
president of Iran and vowing to help them out with
their air defense systems and stand by them through this war,
through their difficult times?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
That's to be expected. And the Iranians need allies. They're
not going to get anything from Russia at this point.
They've got their hands full, continued in Ukraine with that
situation there. The Shahid drone inventories that the Iranians were
sending to Iran or sending to Russia now are no
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longer happening. And in fact, the Ukrainians are hitting some
of those supply ships going from Ukraine to Russia.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So that's more theater.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Vladimir Putin's in big trouble there, and he knows that
as Ukraine continues to not only win by not losing,
but really attrit most of those Russian forces that are
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So you described the current exchange of fire as pretty
limited and not terribly significant. To what extent do you
think the president's restraint is based on our lack of armaments,
that much-jawed-about topic lately?
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, a lot of conversation about that. And I think
you have to look at the analytical framework and how
you take that down. There is a clear difference between
offensive operations and defensive deterrence. And in most cases, that
stockpile had been towards defensive deterrence here. But now if
we decide to go on some much greater offensive operation
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inside Iran, but I don't think we're going to need
to do this, but we're going to need more Patriot missiles,
THAAD interceptors, more Tomahawks, more, more, more of the canisters
that we, that we claim that we're running out of now.
So I, there's no question. We're probably keeping a lot
of that powder dry, which is why you'll not see
another epic fury. You know, that, that, If we start
that kind of operation, that really starts the clock on
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whether or not, how long we can sustain that. Maybe
it's 18 months, maybe it's nine months. No one really knows. Again,
if you stay on the defensive side, which is what
he's trying to do with the blockade, that just requires
far less inventory than anything on the offense. And that's
really the issue here. So I don't necessarily, I'm concerned
about it, but it just depends. It depends on what
the mission is going to be.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, were you surprised? It surprised me. And I'm a layman,
so I don't have any idea what I'm talking about.
But I would have thought we were stockpiled to the
point that we could get into a big, long war
with China if we had to. And it turns out
we get into a pretty small war with Iran and
hit them for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're already dangerously low. Were you surprised by that?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Well, you know, the thing about it is these weapons
systems that we had been inventorying for the past, let's say,
30 years, you know, since the end of the global
war on terror there. You know, they expire and they
become dangerous to shoot. And we, for example, we took
a lot of old artillery rounds. And we sent them
to Ukraine. Those DPICM artillery rounds were something that were
(23:12):
30 and 35 years old. Was I surprised? Somewhat. I
had some information, knew that the Navy probably wasn't ready
to fight this conflict in China, which is what the
expectation was to be by 2028. And then we did
send Patriot missiles to Ukraine and did help them out there.
But when you put it on paper, when you look
down at it and you think about what's happened and
(23:34):
how the war has gone in Iran, it probably took
a little bit more out than we thought it was
going to take. Now, again, from a context perspective, I
still don't think it's enough that we should be completely
worried about it. We're ramping up production lines to, what
is it, $ 22 billion worth of Tomahawks contracts. It's a
long-term answer, and the 21-day emergency production orders are in.
So the production lines are ramping up on this. But
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from a wholesale perspective, I think we're still going to
be okay.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Talking to military analyst Mike Lyons.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Mike, we've talked a little bit about the overlapping of
the parties involved in the war in Ukraine and the
battle against Iran and China's involvement. Number one, how do
you perceive Russia? What shape is Russia in in the
war in Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And two.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
To what extent do you worry about this metastasizing at
some point as, for instance, Putin is taking pot shots
at various factories and such in Europe? It's under the
cloak of, you know, hired goons or mysterious cyber attacks.
But what do you think of that whole topic?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Well, a couple of things. First of all, Russia still
remains a vassal state of China. And you saw China
come out and say that they're not going to allow
Russia to use nuclear weapons. And so Russia has to
be very careful what it's going to do. And the
Chinese have somewhat passive-aggressive oversight over what they're doing. Having
said that, they operate very well. The Russians operate in
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the gray area. They operate in that cyberspace and they
operate in that little green men. That's what started this
whole thing back 2014 into Crimea from the very beginning.
You know, that's a place where they're comfortable in. But
because they're so attrited on the front lines and the
amount of casualties they take is just incredible, they're just
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not able to do all these things at once. And
it's been their problem from the very beginning. They've not
been able to combine arms from a military perspective. So
anything that would happen, I think, would be a short term,
you know, operation that might do something. But their capability
to sustain anything right now is just not realistic.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
So can you you know, you spoke pretty optimistically about
Ukraine's chances just a few minutes ago. Can you see
Ukraine actually winning this thing, actually driving Russia out of
the territory they've taken?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I'm not sure I see that. I see them, again,
winning by not losing, not losing their original border. When
you think about, you know, from a military perspective, it's
all about that land there. But that area in the
Donbass is just so destroyed. And it's so, you know,
it's not someplace that people are going to be moving
back to anytime soon. So winning means stopping, means potentially
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like a North Korea, South Korea border. That's all that
Ukraine needs to get right now. With that assurance, I
was not for Ukraine being in NATO territory. prior to
this for many times. We talked about that. I don't
think NATO should expand, but in this case, clearly, Ukraine
deserves that opportunity to have the U.S. nuclear umbrella and
the NATO countries inside of it right now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Military analyst Mike Lyons, always enlightening. Mike, thanks so much
for the time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good stuff. Great guy.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
That's really interesting. He thinks Ukraine should be part of
NATO now. That's a good point. Why would you expend.
Any soldiers to try to get back completely destroyed land
that's going to be a no-go zone for many years,
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as long as Putin's alive, as sort of a barrier. So, yeah,
you win by ending the damn thing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, you read my mind.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I think Zelensky and his entire leadership are thinking, look,
Putin is intransigent. If we can stop the slaughter for
now and agree.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
To an uneasy... situation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Where they have ownership of that now completely decimated earth
um we'll keep working on it keep working on it
through means both military and diplomatic in the days ahead
That's probably something like the bargain I would strike.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's just too many people dying.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
For practically nothing at this point. I mean, Putin's clearly
just trying to terrorize Ukraine into submission, which will never,
ever work. There's zero chance that'll work. Whether you look
at the history of this sort of thing, or Sebastian
Junger just wrote a great piece. He's just spent a
bunch of time in Ukraine talking about the will of
the people. And, oh my God, there's zero chance they
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would capitulate to Russia and say, all right, we'll be
a vassal state, you can have our country.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Zero.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, they've got generations going back of fighting these kind
of wars to try to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Have a homeland. It's their national identity, really.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And Russians will be villains for the next 50 generations
in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, they already were. I know some Ukrainians. I had
another point I was going to make. Oh, I've been
thinking this for quite a few years now. Surely this
happens someday, doesn't it? Where news breaks that Vladimir Putin
was just in a car wreck. Oh, the reports are
he's dead, you know, or somebody shoots him in the
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back of the head or whatever. How is somebody not
taking him out yet in a kleptocracy oligarchy like that?
How are some of the gazillionaires not thinking, this is
doing me no good?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Why is this happening?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's the world's most dangerous idea in a system like
Putin's because he's acutely aware of what you just said.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
God, imagine what his day-to-day life is like. Probably never
sleeps in the same bed twice like Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Used to do. Oh, so now's the perfect time to
tell you about this.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So there are 14 Russian officials on this Zoom call talking.
They're representatives of Russia's Federation's Ministry of Industry and Trade,
specifically making drones for drone war.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And they're having this 14-man Zoom call. And this guy,
ironically named Potemkin, is the chair of the proceedings.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And he says, we can say that we have room
to improve. And then in the.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Of diplomacy took a bit of a shot about Chinese
production of drones, which now is public too, and I
hope that does them some damage anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But then a guy pipes up.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And he says, yes, colleagues, there is this question. How
is it that Ukrainian engineers assemble effective combat-capable unmanned aerial
vehicles in the space of three weeks in primitive conditions,
yet Russian aviation, with everyone here sitting at this meeting,
billions of rubles spent, and all we have is a
little packet of certification documents to show to our bosses?
And everybody just, like, looked at each other, those that
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didn't have their cameras off. And he went on, how
is it that the, on the one hand, the enemy, Ukraine,
is fighting a war, and meanwhile, at the same time,
you are just siphoning off money from the state budget?
The video shows attendees sitting silently in response to the question.
After a brief cause, the chairman, Potemkin, demanded that Mr.
Volnov identify himself. And he said, I am drone tech,
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but can you explain yourself? I mean, I'm sitting here,
and all I hear is blah, blah, blah, blah. He
was a Ukrainian prankster and influencer and media personality.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I just love that. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and now
all of it's public as well. And good questions.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I mean, yeah, that should make a lot of your
Russian higher-ups wonder about that.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
We're the big, tough military with all the money, and
they are a bunch of guys building drones in garages,
and they're beating us at this.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What's going on? Yeah, and then he said.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, that would take too much explaining, but at least
three conference room full of attendees were shown picking up
papers and walking off camera rather than staying and answering
this Volnov guy's questions. Because for whatever reason, they didn't
disconnect him.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And so he went on.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Y'all are co-conspirators with the regime and you'll be held
responsible for its crimes.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It doesn't matter what your job is.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know what you're doing and you know that your
hand is in the blood of innocent people, children and women.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He blasted them as they left the conference. Yeah, love that.
Well done, sir. Well, here's an important question for you
coming up.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Have you ever hit your head so far you... That
was going to be good if I get the words
out right. Have you ever hit your head so hard
you couldn't have sex? That's what one woman is claiming
about her husband who got hit in the head with
a hockey puck. Now she can't get any, and she's
suing for lots and lots of money.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Known as loss of consortium. The headline suggests itself.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's a rhyme with puck, but not for the air.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's kind of an interesting story coming up, among other things.
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
A lightning strike was caught on home security cameras last week,
showing a man walking along a sidewalk in New York
City's Staten Island when there was the bolt hit him
and he fell to the ground.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
He got up, looked for help. And then, as he
told the local newspaper, he bought a lottery ticket. That's
an interesting theory. Let's see. I got struck by lightning.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I'll bet I'm more likely to win the lottery.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I'm not sure. That makes sense. I'm lucky today, as
the wisdom goes. I guess.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Speaking of getting struck by things out of nowhere, you've
got a woman and her husband suing for millions because
this guy got hit in the head with a hockey
puck so hard that he can't have sex anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And his wife is not happy about it.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
This is a Los Angeles hockey star. He's actually.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
From Russia, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Anyway, lives in the United States. He's playing hockey at
LA Kings Valley Ice Center when a puck pierced his helmet.
I saw a little of the video and turned it
off because it's gruesome. He gets hit in the helmet.
The puck actually goes through the helmet somehow. and then, like,
lodges in his head, and he falls to the ground,
and blood goes all over the ice, and it's a
pretty gruesome thing. I'm reminded of something you said to
(34:05):
me when I bought my first motorcycle many, many years ago.
If you have a $ 10 head, buy a $ 10 helmet.
He needs to buy better helmets. Well, it's the helmet
manufacturer that's being sued by his wife, who says she
has suffered loss of conjugal fellowship, sexual relations, and companionship.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Honey, would you like to have conjugal fellowship tonight?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Hit by a puck, he can no longer consciously fellowship himself.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
To date, he cannot regularly function, the legal paperwork says.
There are intimacy problems. They don't have the same sex life.
And she's not happy about it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Me neither. Different reasons.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
The lawyer went on to say it's a recognized matter
in California that if you lose a sexual partner, that
is a loss and you have a right to sue
for that.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's interesting. I would agree. I've known so many couples
where there.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Ain't sex happening, but if it's just a loss of
interest or not getting along or whatever, nobody's suing anybody.
But if you can blame it on something, then somebody's...
responsible to the point of millions of dollars because it's
so impossible for you to go on with your life
of not having sex, even though, like I said, I've
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known plenty of people who aren't having much sex just
for other reasons. Now, I would never make light of
this poor fellow's fate, but I know when you're contemplating
damages for somebody who can no longer work, you look
at their potential earnings across a lifetime. If you are,
you know, a rocket scientist for SpaceX and you're making
(35:42):
millions of dollars, it's different than a common laborer.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Sorry, it just is. How much sex were they having
and how good was it? You have to know that
to assign a number.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
She's got to testify, hey, my hockey player husband was
put in the net like he is a hat trick
every week.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
As the judges say, do you have any home videos? Evidence.
Like a.
Like, you got any Paris Hilton-style memorabilia, as it were?
Seems like a little.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I mean, the helmet, maybe the helmet was defective and
the manufacturer's on the hook for the injury or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It seems like a bit of a stretch. But anyway,
we'll see how it turns out.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, speaking of conjugal joy, the 5,000 sailors from the
USS Abraham Lincoln have docked in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hide your daughters. That and a lot more good stuff
next hour.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Tony Romo.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's made tens of millions in his second career after
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Where are you coming from? The golf course.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But this on-camera performance near downtown Milwaukee back in July
put his future in TV on hold.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
A strong odor of alcohol. Feet together.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
A poor execution of field sobriety tests.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
The father of three boys pleaded no contest to charges
of driving while intoxicated.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This public apology followed.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Romo said, multiple back surgeries left me with constant debilitating pain,
a dependence on pain medications, and my efforts to get
off those medications led to an over-reliance on alcohol.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Can't drive drunk. You just can't.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, and you shouldn't, and it's bad, and people get
killed because of drunk driving, but the way we treat
these things, I.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean, if this is his fifth time or whatever,
it happens to lots of people. Like, do you just,
I'm sorry, we can no longer be friends, Jim, for
the rest of our lives, or you can't work here
or whatever over that one, he was golfing with friends
and had more to drink than he realized or whatever.
(01:38):
I don't want it to not be a crime or
anything like that, but we don't cut off. But for celebrities,
we have this, they're found to be a child murderer standard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right. We've, as a society, decided on a sanction for
this crime, and it does not include necessarily public, like, humiliation.
You're going to be embarrassed, but it's not like an
orchestrated campaign of humiliation and loss of career.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Show me where that is in the statutes. It isn't there.
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, and I tell you what, alcohol is underrated as
a painkiller. When I'm dealing with either chronic pain stuff
or injuries, that's when I want to drink. Because, man,
it's the best painkiller on earth.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But it's a bad habit. I don't know if you
heard that. So, we didn't talk about this, I don't think,
at all.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
A couple of weeks ago, there was a big announcement
that two Pennsylvanians had died of the measles. And the
portrayal of the story and the roundtable discussions on cable
news were all about how, and you know the direction
this is going to.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Go, RFK Jr.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
because he's anti-vaccine, has caused lots of people to not
get vaccines, and now a disease that we mostly had
under control like measles is making a comeback. In fact,
Josh Shapiro, the governor of the fifth largest state in America,
held a press conference to announce two measles deaths. And
(03:09):
that's one of the things the free press is on
about today is why is the governor of a big
state taking time to announce the death? It's a relatively
it's rare. It's both rare and common. What is the
right term for that?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
People get measles now and then and die from it
and have all through the vaccinated period of measles. It
doesn't happen very often, but it does happen sometimes. It's
not a shocking occurrence if it would happen. It's not
the sort of thing your governor goes and has a
press conference about. And then the added layer, and you
know exactly what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But the added layer of this is.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The CDC has not confirmed these as deaths from measles.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
The media immediately.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Went to, oh, look, the Trump administration trying to pretend,
trying to cover up the fact that they're anti-vaccine. The
free press says, looking into this, there's no confirmation whatsoever that.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
These are measles deaths.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What it looks like to the free press is these
are people who died of... It's exactly the COVID thing.
They died of other things and had measles. It's like
the did you die of COVID or from COVID thing.
With COVID. With COVID thing, yeah. Did you die from
COVID or with COVID? These people, did they die of measles,
(04:33):
the measles, or die with the measles?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And it looks like.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One of them died with the measles and the other
one may not have had measles at all. And it's
perfectly legitimate, according to Free Press, who does not have
either Trump derangement syndrome or stand up for Trump syndrome
at all at the Free Press. It's just saying this
is replaying the whole COVID era nonsense.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The media and.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The Democrats and the New York Times tried to make
this exhibit A of the anti-vax hysteria of JFK Jr.,
causing people to die from measles and um and then
there's a cover-up and it goes back and forth and
everything like that though we haven't gotten any better than
we were back during the covet era on this.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Story let me let me give folks a hint folks
on the left especially the new york times hey when
you try to prove your case with crappy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Evidence trumped up evidence You weaken your case. You don't
strengthen it. You weaken it. Try to stop doing that.
But I know you won't. I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That's one point that this author, I should figure out
what their name is and mention it, but that's one
of the points they make here in this article is
all it does is discredit the whole thing more to
where people don't believe either side of it because it
becomes so political so fast.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Their main point is.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The governor having a press conference to announce two measles
deaths is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's not a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, well, much like when Gavin Newsom makes an ass
of himself semi-regularly trying to elevate his national profile, that's
what Josh is doing. He was just profiled in the
Wall Street Journal today, I think it was, as an
example of a persuader in politics who helps people who
are undecided see the real story, and he's the opposite
(06:31):
of a rabble rouser that just fires people up.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And gets them to the polls. He's an ideas guy,
so ironic timing.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Alec Berenson of the Free Press, did measles kill two
Pennsylvanians or not?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And says it's perfectly okay that the CDC....
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Is investigating this further before they declare these measles deaths
because it's very squishy as to whether that's.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
True or not.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But all the news outlets, including the New York Times
with splashy headlines, jumped on it immediately. We are exactly
in the same conversation as we were during COVID.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There are a handful of topics, and this is clearly
one of them, where it takes so much work to
to get past the dishonest brokers and the ideologues and
the evidence twisters, the whole vaccine thing, and people who
believe whatever wackadoodle website they favor. It's one of those
stories that I've... Here's my talent, Jack, my secret talent.
(07:27):
I look at a topic and I think, all right,
I can guesstimate how much of my life is going
to be spent trying to get a handle on this thing.
And on that topic, I've just decided, no, no. I'll
focus on 50 other things.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
That's probably why it didn't come up on the show
when everybody was talking about these measles.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Deaths as being a harbinger of things to come in
the RFK Jr. health world.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Thanks to the free press for looking into it and saying, no,
it doesn't even look like it is the measles.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I got the world's worst memory, and you're not a
ton of help on stuff like this, because neither one
of us have that encyclopedic, oh yeah, that was Congressman
Jones back in 84. Anyway, Alex Berenson, wasn't he the
less famous half of the Jake Tapper book when that
came out? No, no, different guy. Yeah, he was the
(08:22):
co-writer of something big. All right, never mind.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Doesn't matter. Take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The Blind Leading the Blind, The Forgetful. Leading the senile.
Whatever's going on here.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Let me do this health note before we take a
break and move on to something else. People text me
about it, ask me about it, because lots of people
are either on GLP-1s or thinking about getting on a GLP-1.
I have been on Zepbound for two and a half weeks.
I constantly either feel a little nauseous or a little
(08:52):
full or something. I haven't liked the way I feel
the entire time. Just my anecdotal evidence.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Katie, you? I feel fine, but Jack, do we have
a BM? Oh, we did finally get there, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's been like six days. A long national nightmare is over.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think I've got that nailed down on what I've
got to take of this or whatever. But I'm so tired.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I've been going to bed at like 7.30 at night
several days in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I've been so tired from And I didn't know why.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
So I chat GPT and can the GLP-1 make you tired?
And it says, yeah, that's for whatever percentage of people.
It makes you incredibly tired, possibly because you're not taking
enough calories.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And I realized yesterday I took in like a thousand calories.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
If you take in only a thousand calories in a
day as a guy who's six foot tall, you're going
to be tired. You're not taking in enough calories and
also your metabolism is working overload.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So that's going to exhaust your body from the inside out.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So the question, if you're thinking about trying one of these,
is do you want to get into the chemistry game
of making sure you get the right amount of fiber
so you can have your BM or.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Taking enough calories that you're not tired at the end
of the day? of the day or whatever? I don't
know if I want to. Do you ever want to
BM again?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, it'd be nice if I never had to ever,
but I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, I would miss it. But, you know, teach.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Their own.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
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what else do we have that's exciting? Oh, my God,
this might be my favorite story of the day. A
(11:46):
Ukrainian influencer infiltrated a Russian Zoom meeting about drone production.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I love that. And, oh, did he dick with him?
Sorry for the frank talk. Oh, so good.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The war with Iran seems to be back on, and
we'll talk to my clients at some point about that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We discussed AI.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
We discussed global imbalances where the Canadians have been very strong.
And we discussed how do we put the trade situation
back together. And I think that's going to have to
be done.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
At the leader's level.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Scott Besson there, the U.S. Treasury Secretary, who's now like
the de facto half a Secretary of State, half a
Secretary of War. He seems to be the lead guy
in a handful of things.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Talking about the.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Ongoing talks with Canada over trade and tariffs and the
rest of it. I'm not a big fan of what's
been happening so far, and neither is the Prime Minister
of Canada, who's only the Prime Minister, and the Liberal
Party is only in power because Trump messed with them,
and they got the chance to show how tough they were.
They were about to get swept out and change Canada
(13:03):
for the better. But anyway, here's Mark Carney.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
And when the Americans stop doing memes, stop throwing shade,
stop trying to be tough, and start being serious about
having those discussions, we can have those discussions. But it's
not constructive, but that's their democracy.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's hard to pay attention to the guy unless there's
music behind him.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
And when the Americans stop doing memes, stop... thrown shade
stop trying to be tough uh and start being serious
about having those discussions uh we can have those discussions
but it's not constructive but that's that's their democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I believe the humor there with trump accompanying him on
the recorder thing is.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it's like that he's a whiner is trump up
on the corner of the video playing that Instrument or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Hanson was trying to tell me what he was speaking
in riddles.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So, uh, uh, suggested that prime minister Carney was to
blame for the current political shouting match between the two
countries because the keeping the fight alive was good for.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
His poll numbers. Um, Let's see.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He was asked if his country is in a trade
war with Canada, and Besson said, well, I don't think
you can be in a tit-for-tat with someone that's 13
times larger.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Than you are. I mean, we're not at war with Canada.
How are we going to be at war with Canada?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
What, are they going to take their two submarines from
the Edmonton Mall and sick them on us?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh, that's not helping.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's the throwing shade part. Why are we picking fights
with our closest allies? Explain to me how that helps anything.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Lord.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I came across this. Trump said this yesterday. I don't
know if I can find it real quick, but it
was about how much money, how much money we'll save
by winning this trade war. And most economists don't seem
to think that that is accurate.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, he's had like three different pretexts for why we
need to hammer Canada. First, it was the laughable fentanyl claim.
And then it was, I don't know, something else. And
now it's that we have a trade imbalance. That's because
we buy their oil because it's good oil for us
to refine.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We don't need their product.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So if we cut off trade with that country, we
just made $ 40 billion. You do a few countries like
that and we become a big money machine. A number
of economists have reacted to that saying that's not the
way it works.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Carney pulled Canada's negotiating team in late August after the U.S.
team introduced, quote, last-minute changes that the government deemed unfair
and uneconomic.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He is a punk, by the way, Carney. He's a
waste of skin. He shouldn't be in office. A waste
of skin? That's an insult. You heard me. Ontario Premier
Doug Ford.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Manitoba Premier Waba Kinu have both pushed back against Trump,
with Ford inviting the U.S. president to, quote, kiss my ass.
We remember that one.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And Mr. Kinu comparing Trump to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
An over-the-hill band playing out their last days in a casino, which,
as shots go, is a pretty good shot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah. Yeah, all right. All right.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah. And then Besant said, I think it's very unfortunate
that Prime Minister Carney has turned this into a political
shouting match. He came to power on an anti-American, anti-Trump agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
That's true. He was 20 points behind in the polls,
and then he started this. No, Trump started it. All right.
All right. I'm sick of this.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Things were a little tense at the big G20 finance
ministers pre-meeting in Asheville, North Carolina, I guess.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
By the way, pretty snipey. Among us and our allies.
I pay very little attention to the trade wars. I
pay a ton of attention to the.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Actual war wars.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Russia, Ukraine, us and Iran, hopefully not China and anyone,
anybody soon. I don't think you were here last week
when I was talking about this think tank guy I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Was listening to.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Making the point at people who talk about Iran, Russia,
and China as being.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Kind of an axis, and then some people say, well,
they're not really.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They are working together more in these wars than Japan
and Germany and Italy ever worked together during World War II.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Especially with the news that came out yesterday. Well, you
saw the president of Russia sitting down with the president
of Iran, and Russia saying, we'll do whatever we can
to help you, And then a news story broke that
they're supplying them with some super fancy missile technology and
everything like that. These countries are working together, China, Russia
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and Iran, in a way that's very troubling. And Russia
is lashing out at Europe for their military and financial
support of Ukraine through these gray zone attacks, cyber attacks,
mysterious bombings, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That sort of thing could easily spread.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And we're going to talk to Mike Lyons a little
bit about all this coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
The United States unleashing a series of airstrikes against southwestern
Iran overnight. According to CENTCOM, a variety of IRGC targets
were hit, including air defense sites, radar systems, maritime assets,
mine lane capabilities, and communication sites. President Trump told Fox
News overnight, if they do respond, they'll be hit much harder.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This is a very big hit today.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
If it goes a third time, they're going to be
totally wiped out as a country.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then you got the.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
President of Iran sitting down with the president of Russia, Putin, yesterday, sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Together, doing a little news thing.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And Putin said, we stand with Iran in support and
specifically said that they're going to work very closely with
them in trying to beef up their air defense systems.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So we've both got a narrow focus, a series of
questions for military analyst Mike Lyons, and we'll go a
bit broader.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But Mike, how are you, sir? Welcome.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Hey, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
What are your first thoughts on the re-engagement with the
kinetic action between us and Iran?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Well, it's still not to the level that is really
going to matter. It's still, to me, somewhat responding back
and forth. I think the attack that we made at
that Lark Island was a target of opportunity, so to speak.
It's the main threat of them. having this capability to
use coastal batteries and close-in weapon systems to knock out
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some of those ships that are going through there. They
go after Jordan. We use air defense systems to go back.
So I still don't think we're at that point yet
where it's a full-on military adventure yet.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Well, good.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
What did you make of Putin sitting down with the
president of Iran and vowing to help them out with
their air defense systems and stand by them through this war,
through their difficult times?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
That's to be expected. And the Iranians need allies. They're
not going to get anything from Russia at this point.
They've got their hands full, continued in Ukraine with that
situation there. The Shahid drone inventories that the Iranians were
sending to Iran or sending to Russia now are no
(20:44):
longer happening. And in fact, the Ukrainians are hitting some
of those supply ships going from Ukraine to Russia.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So that's more theater.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Vladimir Putin's in big trouble there, and he knows that
as Ukraine continues to not only win by not losing,
but really attrit most of those Russian forces that are
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So you described the current exchange of fire as pretty
limited and not terribly significant. To what extent do you
think the president's restraint is based on our lack of armaments,
that much-jawed-about topic lately?
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, a lot of conversation about that. And I think
you have to look at the analytical framework and how
you take that down. There is a clear difference between
offensive operations and defensive deterrence. And in most cases, that
stockpile had been towards defensive deterrence here. But now if
we decide to go on some much greater offensive operation
(21:42):
inside Iran, but I don't think we're going to need
to do this, but we're going to need more Patriot missiles,
THAAD interceptors, more Tomahawks, more, more, more of the canisters
that we, that we claim that we're running out of now.
So I, there's no question. We're probably keeping a lot
of that powder dry, which is why you'll not see
another epic fury. You know, that, that, If we start
that kind of operation, that really starts the clock on
(22:04):
whether or not, how long we can sustain that. Maybe
it's 18 months, maybe it's nine months. No one really knows. Again,
if you stay on the defensive side, which is what
he's trying to do with the blockade, that just requires
far less inventory than anything on the offense. And that's
really the issue here. So I don't necessarily, I'm concerned
about it, but it just depends. It depends on what
the mission is going to be.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, were you surprised? It surprised me. And I'm a layman,
so I don't have any idea what I'm talking about.
But I would have thought we were stockpiled to the
point that we could get into a big, long war
with China if we had to. And it turns out
we get into a pretty small war with Iran and
hit them for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're already dangerously low. Were you surprised by that?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Well, you know, the thing about it is these weapons
systems that we had been inventorying for the past, let's say,
30 years, you know, since the end of the global
war on terror there. You know, they expire and they
become dangerous to shoot. And we, for example, we took
a lot of old artillery rounds. And we sent them
to Ukraine. Those DPICM artillery rounds were something that were
(23:12):
30 and 35 years old. Was I surprised? Somewhat. I
had some information, knew that the Navy probably wasn't ready
to fight this conflict in China, which is what the
expectation was to be by 2028. And then we did
send Patriot missiles to Ukraine and did help them out there.
But when you put it on paper, when you look
down at it and you think about what's happened and
(23:34):
how the war has gone in Iran, it probably took
a little bit more out than we thought it was
going to take. Now, again, from a context perspective, I
still don't think it's enough that we should be completely
worried about it. We're ramping up production lines to, what
is it, $ 22 billion worth of Tomahawks contracts. It's a
long-term answer, and the 21-day emergency production orders are in.
So the production lines are ramping up on this. But
(23:55):
from a wholesale perspective, I think we're still going to
be okay.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Talking to military analyst Mike Lyons.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Mike, we've talked a little bit about the overlapping of
the parties involved in the war in Ukraine and the
battle against Iran and China's involvement. Number one, how do
you perceive Russia? What shape is Russia in in the
war in Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And two.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
To what extent do you worry about this metastasizing at
some point as, for instance, Putin is taking pot shots
at various factories and such in Europe? It's under the
cloak of, you know, hired goons or mysterious cyber attacks.
But what do you think of that whole topic?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Well, a couple of things. First of all, Russia still
remains a vassal state of China. And you saw China
come out and say that they're not going to allow
Russia to use nuclear weapons. And so Russia has to
be very careful what it's going to do. And the
Chinese have somewhat passive-aggressive oversight over what they're doing. Having
said that, they operate very well. The Russians operate in
(24:58):
the gray area. They operate in that cyberspace and they
operate in that little green men. That's what started this
whole thing back 2014 into Crimea from the very beginning.
You know, that's a place where they're comfortable in. But
because they're so attrited on the front lines and the
amount of casualties they take is just incredible, they're just
(25:19):
not able to do all these things at once. And
it's been their problem from the very beginning. They've not
been able to combine arms from a military perspective. So
anything that would happen, I think, would be a short term,
you know, operation that might do something. But their capability
to sustain anything right now is just not realistic.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
So can you you know, you spoke pretty optimistically about
Ukraine's chances just a few minutes ago. Can you see
Ukraine actually winning this thing, actually driving Russia out of
the territory they've taken?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I'm not sure I see that. I see them, again,
winning by not losing, not losing their original border. When
you think about, you know, from a military perspective, it's
all about that land there. But that area in the
Donbass is just so destroyed. And it's so, you know,
it's not someplace that people are going to be moving
back to anytime soon. So winning means stopping, means potentially
(26:16):
like a North Korea, South Korea border. That's all that
Ukraine needs to get right now. With that assurance, I
was not for Ukraine being in NATO territory. prior to
this for many times. We talked about that. I don't
think NATO should expand, but in this case, clearly, Ukraine
deserves that opportunity to have the U.S. nuclear umbrella and
the NATO countries inside of it right now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Military analyst Mike Lyons, always enlightening. Mike, thanks so much
for the time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good stuff. Great guy.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
That's really interesting. He thinks Ukraine should be part of
NATO now. That's a good point. Why would you expend.
Any soldiers to try to get back completely destroyed land
that's going to be a no-go zone for many years,
(27:04):
as long as Putin's alive, as sort of a barrier. So, yeah,
you win by ending the damn thing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, you read my mind.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I think Zelensky and his entire leadership are thinking, look,
Putin is intransigent. If we can stop the slaughter for
now and agree.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
To an uneasy... situation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Where they have ownership of that now completely decimated earth
um we'll keep working on it keep working on it
through means both military and diplomatic in the days ahead
That's probably something like the bargain I would strike.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's just too many people dying.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
For practically nothing at this point. I mean, Putin's clearly
just trying to terrorize Ukraine into submission, which will never,
ever work. There's zero chance that'll work. Whether you look
at the history of this sort of thing, or Sebastian
Junger just wrote a great piece. He's just spent a
bunch of time in Ukraine talking about the will of
the people. And, oh my God, there's zero chance they
(28:06):
would capitulate to Russia and say, all right, we'll be
a vassal state, you can have our country.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Zero.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, they've got generations going back of fighting these kind
of wars to try to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Have a homeland. It's their national identity, really.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And Russians will be villains for the next 50 generations
in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, they already were. I know some Ukrainians. I had
another point I was going to make. Oh, I've been
thinking this for quite a few years now. Surely this
happens someday, doesn't it? Where news breaks that Vladimir Putin
was just in a car wreck. Oh, the reports are
he's dead, you know, or somebody shoots him in the
(28:53):
back of the head or whatever. How is somebody not
taking him out yet in a kleptocracy oligarchy like that?
How are some of the gazillionaires not thinking, this is
doing me no good?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Why is this happening?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's the world's most dangerous idea in a system like
Putin's because he's acutely aware of what you just said.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
God, imagine what his day-to-day life is like. Probably never
sleeps in the same bed twice like Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Used to do. Oh, so now's the perfect time to
tell you about this.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So there are 14 Russian officials on this Zoom call talking.
They're representatives of Russia's Federation's Ministry of Industry and Trade,
specifically making drones for drone war.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And they're having this 14-man Zoom call. And this guy,
ironically named Potemkin, is the chair of the proceedings.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And he says, we can say that we have room
to improve. And then in the.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Of diplomacy took a bit of a shot about Chinese
production of drones, which now is public too, and I
hope that does them some damage anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But then a guy pipes up.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And he says, yes, colleagues, there is this question. How
is it that Ukrainian engineers assemble effective combat-capable unmanned aerial
vehicles in the space of three weeks in primitive conditions,
yet Russian aviation, with everyone here sitting at this meeting,
billions of rubles spent, and all we have is a
little packet of certification documents to show to our bosses?
And everybody just, like, looked at each other, those that
(30:34):
didn't have their cameras off. And he went on, how
is it that the, on the one hand, the enemy, Ukraine,
is fighting a war, and meanwhile, at the same time,
you are just siphoning off money from the state budget?
The video shows attendees sitting silently in response to the question.
After a brief cause, the chairman, Potemkin, demanded that Mr.
Volnov identify himself. And he said, I am drone tech,
(30:57):
but can you explain yourself? I mean, I'm sitting here,
and all I hear is blah, blah, blah, blah. He
was a Ukrainian prankster and influencer and media personality.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I just love that. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and now
all of it's public as well. And good questions.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I mean, yeah, that should make a lot of your
Russian higher-ups wonder about that.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
We're the big, tough military with all the money, and
they are a bunch of guys building drones in garages,
and they're beating us at this.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What's going on? Yeah, and then he said.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, that would take too much explaining, but at least
three conference room full of attendees were shown picking up
papers and walking off camera rather than staying and answering
this Volnov guy's questions. Because for whatever reason, they didn't
disconnect him.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And so he went on.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Y'all are co-conspirators with the regime and you'll be held
responsible for its crimes.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It doesn't matter what your job is.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know what you're doing and you know that your
hand is in the blood of innocent people, children and women.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He blasted them as they left the conference. Yeah, love that.
Well done, sir. Well, here's an important question for you
coming up.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Have you ever hit your head so far you... That
was going to be good if I get the words
out right. Have you ever hit your head so hard
you couldn't have sex? That's what one woman is claiming
about her husband who got hit in the head with
a hockey puck. Now she can't get any, and she's
suing for lots and lots of money.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Known as loss of consortium. The headline suggests itself.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's a rhyme with puck, but not for the air.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's kind of an interesting story coming up, among other things.
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
A lightning strike was caught on home security cameras last week,
showing a man walking along a sidewalk in New York
City's Staten Island when there was the bolt hit him
and he fell to the ground.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
He got up, looked for help. And then, as he
told the local newspaper, he bought a lottery ticket. That's
an interesting theory. Let's see. I got struck by lightning.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I'll bet I'm more likely to win the lottery.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I'm not sure. That makes sense. I'm lucky today, as
the wisdom goes. I guess.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Speaking of getting struck by things out of nowhere, you've
got a woman and her husband suing for millions because
this guy got hit in the head with a hockey
puck so hard that he can't have sex anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And his wife is not happy about it.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
This is a Los Angeles hockey star. He's actually.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
From Russia, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Anyway, lives in the United States. He's playing hockey at
LA Kings Valley Ice Center when a puck pierced his helmet.
I saw a little of the video and turned it
off because it's gruesome. He gets hit in the helmet.
The puck actually goes through the helmet somehow. and then, like,
lodges in his head, and he falls to the ground,
and blood goes all over the ice, and it's a
pretty gruesome thing. I'm reminded of something you said to
(34:05):
me when I bought my first motorcycle many, many years ago.
If you have a $ 10 head, buy a $ 10 helmet.
He needs to buy better helmets. Well, it's the helmet
manufacturer that's being sued by his wife, who says she
has suffered loss of conjugal fellowship, sexual relations, and companionship.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Honey, would you like to have conjugal fellowship tonight?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Hit by a puck, he can no longer consciously fellowship himself.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
To date, he cannot regularly function, the legal paperwork says.
There are intimacy problems. They don't have the same sex life.
And she's not happy about it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Me neither. Different reasons.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
The lawyer went on to say it's a recognized matter
in California that if you lose a sexual partner, that
is a loss and you have a right to sue
for that.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's interesting. I would agree. I've known so many couples
where there.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Ain't sex happening, but if it's just a loss of
interest or not getting along or whatever, nobody's suing anybody.
But if you can blame it on something, then somebody's...
responsible to the point of millions of dollars because it's
so impossible for you to go on with your life
of not having sex, even though, like I said, I've
(35:21):
known plenty of people who aren't having much sex just
for other reasons. Now, I would never make light of
this poor fellow's fate, but I know when you're contemplating
damages for somebody who can no longer work, you look
at their potential earnings across a lifetime. If you are,
you know, a rocket scientist for SpaceX and you're making
(35:42):
millions of dollars, it's different than a common laborer.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Sorry, it just is. How much sex were they having
and how good was it? You have to know that
to assign a number.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
She's got to testify, hey, my hockey player husband was
put in the net like he is a hat trick
every week.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
As the judges say, do you have any home videos? Evidence.
Like a.
Like, you got any Paris Hilton-style memorabilia, as it were?
Seems like a little.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I mean, the helmet, maybe the helmet was defective and
the manufacturer's on the hook for the injury or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It seems like a bit of a stretch. But anyway,
we'll see how it turns out.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, speaking of conjugal joy, the 5,000 sailors from the
USS Abraham Lincoln have docked in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hide your daughters. That and a lot more good stuff
next hour.
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