April 25, 2024 • 33 mins
ABC News' Royal Oakes talks about the Supreme Court hearing the presidential Immunity case. Anti-Israel Protests on College Campuses across the nation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
I cannot waste any time.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Really, Today's Today's a bountiful day in news and bizarre things.
And one of the biggest stories is that the Supreme
Court heard arguments from Donald Trump's lawyers that a president is.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Immune too. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
They were arguing as immune to any kind of prosecution
for anything that happens to him during his presidency, whether
it's over a public issue, a private issue. And it
seems and I'm trying to you know, I do not
have a law degree, but we're going to have somebody
on who does. It seems like the Supreme Court met
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him halfway maybe on this. It's got a Royal Oaks,
ABC News legal analyst and to see what you think
the Supreme Court which way it may be going on
the statue Royal, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm great Hey, John, I know time is precious, so
I'm shocked to your having me on, but I'm going
to do my best anyway. You're absolutely right. They're split
in the baby. So the lower courts said, an ex
president is not immune from criminal prosecution. If he did
bad stuff official unofficial, you can get indicted. The Supreme
Court seems open to giving some level of immunity to
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a former president accused of a crime while in office.
And it was a fascinating three hour or her argument.
It was basically a battle of hypotheticals over the immunity issue.
The liberal justices said stuff like, well, what if he
ordered the assassination of a political rival, or what if
he appointed an ambassador that sounds official, but he demanded
a bribe in return. Conservative justices asked stuff like, well,
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what if the former president is indicted, you know, by
a bunch of left wing local prosecutors, they're going to
charge him for years? Both, you know, good interesting questions.
But the bottom line is this. We all know it's
hugely important John, as to whether there is a trial
in that Washington d c. January sixth case before November.
And the judges just chomping at the bit to get
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that trial going. This conservative majority, I think five or
six of them, they are absolutely going to send this
case back to the trial court to determine. Okay, they're
going to sid there are two buckets. There's an official
act bucket and a personal act bucket. Which of Trump's
various actions pressuring like pans, the fake electors, this and that,
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Which act goes in which bucket? And that process of
distributing his acts into official and non official that's going
to kill Jacksmith's chance to hold the trial on the
January sixth. Election interference is going to be way after November.
So it's basically mission accomplished from Trump's standpoint, even if
he is the case, even if ultimately everybody decides, well, basically,
most of what you did was personal. There was an election.
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It was campaign stuff. The key is this is going
to put off that case. It could put off the
Georgia case also, although as you know, if Fannie willis
da kerfuffle down there, that means they're probably not going
to have a Georgia trial down there anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So okay, what about the trial.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What about the Florida case with the with the documents, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Documents Yeah, that's kind of a blendo. Trump could say, well,
you know, I took the documents while I was still president.
That sounds kind of official. But then they're going to say, well,
after you a president, beyond your official capacity, you lied,
and you didn't hand the documents back, and you the stuff,
the top secret stuff in your in your bathroom. So
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who knows whether that could be affected or not. But frankly,
you know, the judge hasn't set a trial date in Florida,
the judge that was appointed by Donald Trump. I wouldn't
bet on that one going. So really, the only one
that's going to go is the one that's going right now,
Stormy Daniels in New York City, which most people agree
is the weakest of the four criminal cases and the
least important of the four criminal cases. You know, like
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paying off a porn star is really something that goes
to the heart of democracy.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, Trump has the guts and the money to play
the system, push everything to the limit and find the
holes and find the weaknesses that nobody ever thought of before.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Oh. Absolutely, and these lawyers are absolutely implementing a strategy.
But in their role argument this morning, Justice Samuel Alito,
she used the old expression about you know, grand jury
can and dietah Ham sandwich, countless local das could prosecute
a president and all sorts of instability if a president
has to look over his shoulder during his term, oh am,
I going to get indicted by some Yahoo district attorney
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in Oregon for taking a step that I think is
important and bold for the country. So yeah, it's a
tough question as to how much immunity a president should have.
But this court, I don't think this court wants to
look like there're Donald Trump's handmaid. I'm not going to
come out and say Donald Trump is right. He really
wants us to say that anything and everything a president
does he's immune from prosecution. It's a more logical approach.
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Let's sort out whether it was official or unofficial. But
that's going to take time and that's the key issue
from political.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then if Trump becomes president, he could end all
these prosecutions, correct, I mean he could give orders to
the Department of Justice to drop all these cases against him.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, a couple of angles there. First of all, theoretically
he could direct his Department of Justice with his new
attorney general. I don't think he's going to appoint Jeffrey's sessions. Again,
it's just a guess now. But anyway, the problem is
then people are going to be outraged and say it
sounds like Saturday night to massacre. You know, you're impeding justice.
The other angle is may a president pardon himself? And
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that's unsettled. The courts have never addressed that. It sounds
a little flaky. There's a principle you can't be a
judge in your own case, but there's nothing in the
constitution that says you may not pardon yourself, and there
are limits on pardon in the constitution, so yeah, he
probably could get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, that's what's fascinating about the cases he's involved in
is inevitably what comes up in the case is, well, Jay,
that's not in the law, that's not in the constitution.
Nobody thought of this before the founding fathers didn't put
that in. And that's where he works the angles and
he finds the crevices and he slides his way through.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And there's so many issues in three hundred and nearly
three hundred years of our country that really haven't address
been addressed, like may have president pardon himself or the
immunity buckets. So yeah, the Supreme Court is thinking its
teeth into it. But you're right, he's exploiting some very interesting,
unsettled issues and the bottom line, as time is on
his side.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
All right, Royle, very good, thank you for coming on
with all that. You bet, all right, we'll ABC News.
The Supreme Court, it looks like they're not going to
give total immunity to Trump or any president for acts
he commits while president. Maybe immunity for public acts, but
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not private acts. But the real bottom line, the real
purpose of this was to delay the trial. And this
involves all the activity in Washington on January sixth, and
Trump's roll in that those charges are going to have
to be sorted out, perhaps after the decision comes down
in June, and then and the appeals court or the
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district court there is going to have to say, Okay,
this is protected under Trump's public decision making. This one's
not protected because this was a private issue. By time
they sort all that out, there's no way they get
the trial before November. And if he becomes president, he'll
kill the prosecution. And if he's not president, nobody's going
to care anymore. We will continue here when we come back.
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Turns out things eventually got nuts at USC yesterday and
they arrested ninety three people. And also the National Review
did a story and they looked at some of the
interviews of students around the country and found that a
lot of these students. We touched on this yesterday, but
it's really true. A lot of these kids have no
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idea what they're protesting about, and they have no idea
that they're fighting for Palestine, Iran, Hamas and how they
would be treated based on their affinity group, how they
would be treated if they were in Palestine or Iran
or they were under the rule of Hamas, and just
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the colossal ignorance of these of these teenagers, really and
people in the early twenties who think they know everything.
Turns out they know almost nothing, but they like marching
around and screaming about it. More coming up.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
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Speaker 2 (09:00):
Lets let's start with the USC thing, because it was
noisy at first and then it seemed to calm down.
I don't think after we had Chris Adler on early
in the show yesterday there was anything further newsworthy and
then I guess starting late afternoon into the evening, things
went went nuts because there were dozens of LAPD cops
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that were on the campus at four o'clock and they
formed a line around Alumni Park and that's where the
graduation is supposed to be next month, and they closed
the gates to the campus yet to show your ID
to prove that you belonged to the university in some way.
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The professors were given the option of conducting classes online,
and a lot of professors took that option, probably not
because they were scared of the protesters, but because they're
they're lazy slugs. At five, the USC Department of Public
Safety gave the protesters a ten minute warning to disperse
or face arrest. Now, this is the way you handle
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a protest. This is what they did not do in Columbia.
And protesters then gathered around the officers and started chanting,
and the LAPD officers marched towards the students carrying less
lethal weapons. There has to be a better phrase than
that less lethal weapons. Students got another ten minute warning.
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Then there was an LAPD helicopter at a loud speaker
that blasted the message your time is up, leave the
area or you will be arrested for trespassing. Well, students
wouldn't move, and then a half hour later Lapd entered
the campus. Protesters chanted all we want is peace, and
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the cops were having none of it. In fact, one
of the cops briefly raised his less lethal weapon and
the crowd started check outing whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like, yeah,
you want a rubber bullet in the forehead, whoa? And
nobody could say for sure if a rubber bullet was
shot or not, but a video posted showed an officer
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shooting one towards a crowd that was off campus. But
they don't know for sure, and eventually ninety three people
were arrested. By nine thirty, the crowd had dispersed and
some officers stayed to stand guard.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Your daughter was there, Did she run into any nonsense?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
She didn't, But she when she went out for lunch
because she goes to the law school there, so it
was kind of away from where the protests were happening.
But then she couldn't get back on campus for a
long time. Then she had to show her ID. And
you know what really stinks about all this is that
so she has finals tomorrow. Yeah, and so these students
have finals this week and they have to deal with this.
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I mean how it's very distracting. And graduation next month
and you can't.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Just relax and enjoy anything because of the you know,
we have a few hundred whack jobs. Don't don't these
whack jobs have finals or these all outside agitators?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Who I mean, I I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean the selfishness, the the the ego of these
people that they think by shouting into the wind that
they're going to affect a war on the other side
of the and and just and this is not just
an inconvenience. This is a major disruption during an important
time of the school year. And and and they should
all be arrested, and they should be arrested and thrown
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in jail like for the rest of the semester, so
they can't do anything further to disrupt people's education. I
was reading today that this is you know, some of
the kids, they've had such a disruptive college experience because
it started in COVID right right, and they were isolated
in their rooms online and now it's ending with with
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with this none.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Well, USC canceled main graduation. They did that today, they
canceled it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
They can't. I didn't know that. Yeah, oh see, that's sad.
That's wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Their main stage graduation where since five thousand people come
every year.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh, that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's a security Yeah, because because of insane toddlers. And
I'll talk about some of these people when we come
back and they're completely ignorant. They don't know what they're
yelling about and who they're yelling for, and they don't
know what would be like if they lived in the
countries that they are protesting for. It's like if you
actually lived in Iran or lived in Palestine, what your
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life would be like. I have never seen such stupidity
and ignorance and selfishness in my life. It's like they're
all acting out some kind of massive nervous breakdown.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And then they're they're they're talking about it's free speech.
You're trying to take away our free speech.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, your free speech doesn't mean you get disrupt everyone's life.
You know, my free speech doesn't mean I can I
can come and shout in your ear at two o'clock
in the morning while you're sleeping you are creating a
big public nuisance, a big public ruckus. Oh what do
they usc They shouldn't be canceling graduation, but they were
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trying to harass these idiot protesters. They have a no
camping law, and every time the tents were put down
on the ground by the students, the campus went after
the tents, and so the students end up carrying the
tents and walking around in a circle so they couldn't
be accused of camping.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
As a farce, the whole thing is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Now when we come back, National Review looked at some
of the stories, some of the interviews around the country,
and what is overwhelming that will blow your mind is
how little all these teenagers and people in their early
twenties know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They think they're so worldly. They think they're you know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
They're citizens of the world, and they're having an impact
on global policy and American foreign policy, and that they're
you know, this is going to be a turning point
in world history. They have no idea what this is about.
They don't have no idea who they're defending and fighting for,
and that they themselves. If they were in these countries,
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some of them would be executed for the lifestyles they lead.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Tell you about it. We come back.
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heard by the rest of the audience. Now, what is
fascinating to me is is just the the existence of
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these protests, and then the coverage of the protests, and
how little is done to dissect the personality disorders that
a lot of these people have. They really do have
personality disorders. They're chanting is vacuous, I mean, as empty
as a Kardashian. There's it's just stupid rhymes. It's a
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lot of toddler behavior. Toddlers like rhymes. Toddlers like to
stamp their feet and scream really loud, and if they
don't get their way, you know, have a big hissy
fit and start throwing things. And so it's the glorification
of toddler behavior in the bodies of people who are
roughly between eighteen and twenty two years old, whose parents
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are spending sixty seventy eighty thousand dollars a year and
more for an elite education that more or less guarantees
them a very comfortable, upper middle class life. And yet
these people seem to be so unhappy and rest so
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desiring of being noticed, of having some effect on the world.
I mean, if they could put all these energies into
something real, you know, there's a lot of places you
could volunteer. There's a lot of ways when you're twenty
years old with a lot of energy to have an
impact on other people's lives who weren't that fortunate. And
yet no, they stamp around like little babies, screaming and yelling,
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and then if you talk to them, you find out
they don't know much about what they're protesting over. I'm
gonna play this clip again yesterday, and this is a
clip of a couple of protesters who were actually quizzed
about why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
There's the main goal with tonight's protest.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think the roles are showing support from Palestine and
demanding that Nyu saw I honestly don't know all of
what ny is doing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Is there something that NYU's doing. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I'm pretty sure there.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Do you know what n why he is doing about
protesting here?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
More educated?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I wish I was more educated. Do you know what
NYU is doing about Israel?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Do you know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean that if it wasn't for the threat of violence,
if it wasn't that, they're blocking regular students from attending
class and enjoying life and graduating and going to final exams.
This is a laughing stock. It's a farce. There's nothing
meaningful in it, just because overgrown babies go outside and
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have a toddler fit. It's like, well, look what the
youth of today thinks about these issues.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It gives a crap.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I was twenty. Who gives a crap what I thought
when I was twenty. I didn't know anything. Nobody does
when they're that young. I don't know why we feel
the need to worship. This is what the young people
are upset.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Let's shut up.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Spending on This is an article in the National Review
by Caylea bartch And She was looking at some of
the protesters at campuses around the country and noticed, in
addition to setting up tents. She noted that a lot
of them said they actually don't know why they're protesting,
but they want to support Palestine, you know, solidarity of Palestine.
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And in between the tents, their display of resistance included
performing interpretive dances for decolonization. You know, Israel has colonized Palestine.
That's their argument. So in order to get Israel to
stop colonizing Palestine, they are doing interpretive dances. They weave
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friendship bracelets, they sell incense and essential oils, and they
are vaping for the oppressed as well. Now, at some
of the Ivy League encampments, there's an overlap between LGBTQ
you advocates and the Free Palestine advocates. And I can't
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even read these signs, but I'll give you the gist
of them. Among the signs at Colombia was trans Gaze
for Palestine, except they used the F word, you know,
the sexual F word, trans for fat Palestine, also trans
Lesbians for Palestine. Okay, Now, Caleb Artch writes, who's going
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to tell them that they would be the gays and
the lesbians would be the first to be executed under
Shariah law, which is what they're protesting for Palestine is
run under Shariah law, so is Palestine's boss Iran. The
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supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran is Ali Hamani,
the Iyatola Hamiani, and he posted his support on Twitter
of the college encampments. And what Caleb Barshrow is how
satisfying for him to watch the children of America's elite
praise Hamas and Hezbollah, which are funded, trained, and armed
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by Iran to achieve the twin goals of death to
America and death to Israel. That's what the boys and
girls are doing over at USA and UCLA today. Now,
if these students were protesting in Iran.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Huh you were worried about me?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And yeah, right, Well, they'd be sentenced to death. Here's
an example.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There is.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
An Iranian rapper named Tumage Selehi and he was protesting
over the killing of a young woman in police custody. Well,
Tumage got the death sentence from protesting. Now, Masa Amini
was the woman killed in police custody. You know what
she did wrong? Improper wearing of a he job. That's
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one of the crimes that you could be severely punished
for in Iran. You're not wearing your heat job properly.
You don't see these girls at USC protesting over that. Huh.
Iranian women cannot sing or dance solo in public. They
cannot ride a bicycle, they cannot attend matches in sports arenas.
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There are certain education subjects they're not allowed to but
they're not allowed to study. They cannot hold any offices
of power. Violence against women is a norm under the
Islamic Republic of Iran. According to Iranian law, adultery is
punishable by stoning. Violating the he job rules is punishable
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by seventy lashes. Do you think any of the girls
at USC protesting yesterday knows this.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I would just love to.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
See their faces and go, h oh, that's not cool.
Many young women and middle aged women receive this punishment.
Homosexuality is illegal under the Islamic Republic law in Iran.
Same sex crimes, that's right, crimes are subjected to hudad,
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which is a punishment under Shriah law, where whoever is
making the claim is deemed to be God. So if
somebody goes to an Iranian law enforcement official and says, hey,
those two were having gay sex, the person making the
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claim is considered to be God. This is God filing
the claim. Punishments are severe. In fact, sodomy known as
levat is punishable by death where a judge determines when
it judge determines that penetration was involved. Zero percent of
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these college children, these toddlers know this because if you
support Palestine, you support Hamas, you support Haran, you support
Shariah law, you support the strictest form of Islam as
for Hamas, because Hamas is Palestine, Palestine is Amas. The
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norm in Hamas in Gaza is they throw women in
jail or worse for the crime of organizing zoom calls,
and if you have extramarital sex, also jail. Article eighteen
of the Hamas Covenant of nineteen eighty eight decrees that
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women in the home of the fighting family, whether she
is a mother or a sister, plays the most important
role in looking after the family, rearing the children, and
imbuing them with moral values and thoughts derived from Islam.
That's not exactly a feminist manist, oh is it. In
other words, while the men are out fighting for freedom,
you're supposed to stay in the house and raise the kids.
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This is what these protesters. This is these are the countries,
the religion, the terrorist groups. This is what the USC
kids and the UCLA kids are supporting. They're absolute idiots.
They're intellectual idiots, they're moral idiots. They don't have a
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shred of knowledge. All they know it's really cool to
go out and chant and stamp your feet and bank
drums and chanting rhymes, which is exactly what you would
find in a Jimbree class.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Too bad somebody can't go to these protests with a
bullhorn because you know, it's so loud, it's bewhelming there
and just spew off everything you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, well, their reaction probably be just to screen outer
because there's there's so much cognitive dissonance. Anything they hear
that counteracts whatever belief system they they'll just reject.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I suspect.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Then they don't belong on these elite campuses.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, no, And this is what gets into the this
is what all I mean. Geez.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know, I raised my kids on the West Side,
and everybody was fighting, turning their kids into a basket cases,
trying to get them into these kinds of schools. And
you get there and these are not elite intellects. It's
not filled with all this great U intellectual firepower and talents.
Now just a bunch of spoiled rich kids. The dilettants.
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They're they're, they're they're. They've had everything taken care of
it for them in life, so life doesn't really have
any meaning. They have nothing to fight for in their
own life because they know, more or less everything's taken
care of Mom and dad drop dead. I'm inheriting millions
of dollars and I'll.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Do what I want.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
These are the ones that are going to want to
work from home.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, they inherit their parents' house and they work from
home and they talk on zoom all day. And so
these are the great moral intellects who are now screaming
out in the street. Probably ought to stop covering them all.
They're not really not worth the time.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
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Speaker 2 (27:21):
Coming up right after Devers at two o'clock news, We're
going to talk to John Lewin, Deputy DA. We've had
him on many times and he's got a lot to
stay about the latest gascon scandal. It never stops. He
hired Gascone hired a former public defender named Diana Tehan
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as an assistant district attorney, not a deputy DA which
most of the prosecutors have as a title, but an
assistant district attorney, basically part of the gascone upper tier
of his administration. And she is being charged with eleven
felonies that she illegally, illegally accessed information about police officers,
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some of whom that she was investigating. These were their
private work records, confidential records, and she broke the law,
so says Rob Bonta, the California Attorney General. Neilsom's buddy,
Rob Bonta, is going after gascon's top administrator, Diana Tehran
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and it's eleven charges, eleven felonies. Hard to believe Gascon
didn't know about all this. We'll talk with John Lewin
coming up while we got a minute. We've been discussing
all the college demonstrations here at USC and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
This is from UCLA today.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I guess this is Chip Yost from KTLA Channel five
to the reporter, and you're gonna hear a clip of
him and apparently him, he and the cameraman for Channel five.
I've got into it. With a protester who did not
want to be recorded on video.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I'm allowed to be here to report one.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Do you want to protect these undergraduate's First Amendment rights?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I am concerned about covering this story.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Do you want to I don't. Do you want to
protect their.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
First Amendment rights? They're allowed to come over here and
talk to me if they want to. Okay, our camera
is being physically pulled from us right now.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You believe this is appropriate?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
All this? And why are you here?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You're here because you're protesting.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
You want your message out you yet you are trying
to kick us out of your area where your protests.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Just answer the question, Oh, it's kind of hard.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
To talk to you when they're pulling my photographer away.
They're assaulting my photographer. They're assaulting my photographer over So
you believe you have the right to control this entire area,
control who comes and goes. Do you do you believe?
Do you believe you have the right to control who
comes and goes in this area? Do you understand the
First Amendment? I don't think you do, because you do.
You understand you're allowed to protest, but you think you
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have the right to keep the media from covering your
protest media.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Do you do you respect to these undergraduates First Amendment
right to protest?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yes, that's why we're here covering it. That's why we
are here covering it. We are giving you covering it,
and yet you are trying to keep us out here
from covering it.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
We are asking you for the safety of these undergraduates who.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Can face How is their safety in danger.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Because these undergraduates can face expulsion for protesting, for exercising
their First Amendment rights because they are not protected. So
we're asking you to only film people with their express consents.
We have plenty of people.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
You realize that, you realize that as a ridiculous request.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I realized that you if you care about people, do
you care?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
There?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You go?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, the moral authorities, all right, we'll have much more
of that throughout the days. Okay, that's chipy ost kati La.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They were assaulting his photographer and pulling the camera away,
and they notice how they put you on the moral defensive.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, don't you care about hey?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
If you don't want to suffer the consequences of supporting
terrorism in public, then go home, stay in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Better yet, go to the classroom.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And go learn something about history, learn something about current events. Dude,
they don't teach this stuff, I guess anywhere anymore high
school and college. That places like Iran, places like Gaza
are run by Sharia law, are run by religious zealots.
The things they do to women in these countries, and
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the things they do to gaze and lesbians and all
the members of the alphabet right, all the torture that
goes on, they have no idea. He has no idea
that kid about what the First Amendment is. First Amendment
says that Chip Yost can can stick his microphone out
and stick the camera out and record what's going on
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in a public space, and if you don't want to
be exposed and have some kind of some kind of consequences,
then don't go.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's part of your freedom too.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You have the freedom to express yourself, and you have
the freedom not to express yourself and stay home because
you don't want deal with the consequences. The First Amendment
doesn't mean you don't have consequences for speaking your opinion.
It depends on the time and place. The First Amendment
just says the government can't take away you're right to
speak out, but a private university who think you're stirring
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up trouble on their private land.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, of course they could set the rules.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
If they say, look, we're not gonna have any public
demonstrations or you get suspended, then that's their rule. Then
don't go to the university. But the moral superiority don't
you care?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
How about I don't care? Coming up, we're going to
talk to John Lewin.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And John Lewin is a Deputy DA and big scandal
in George Gascone's office. One of his top administrators is
the Assistant District Attorney Diana Turan, and she is now
charged with eleven felonies by the State Attorney General that
she accessed eleege lacks private information about police officers' records
(33:06):
while being employed as cops. And we'll get into the
details coming up. Hey, you've been listening to The John
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on the radio from one until four, and then
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got enough here for about six hours.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I cannot waste any time.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Really, Today's Today's a bountiful day in news and bizarre things.
And one of the biggest stories is that the Supreme
Court heard arguments from Donald Trump's lawyers that a president is.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Immune too. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
They were arguing as immune to any kind of prosecution
for anything that happens to him during his presidency, whether
it's over a public issue, a private issue. And it
seems and I'm trying to you know, I do not
have a law degree, but we're going to have somebody
on who does. It seems like the Supreme Court met
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him halfway maybe on this. It's got a Royal Oaks,
ABC News legal analyst and to see what you think
the Supreme Court which way it may be going on
the statue Royal, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm great Hey, John, I know time is precious, so
I'm shocked to your having me on, but I'm going
to do my best anyway. You're absolutely right. They're split
in the baby. So the lower courts said, an ex
president is not immune from criminal prosecution. If he did
bad stuff official unofficial, you can get indicted. The Supreme
Court seems open to giving some level of immunity to
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a former president accused of a crime while in office.
And it was a fascinating three hour or her argument.
It was basically a battle of hypotheticals over the immunity issue.
The liberal justices said stuff like, well, what if he
ordered the assassination of a political rival, or what if
he appointed an ambassador that sounds official, but he demanded
a bribe in return. Conservative justices asked stuff like, well,
(02:02):
what if the former president is indicted, you know, by
a bunch of left wing local prosecutors, they're going to
charge him for years? Both, you know, good interesting questions.
But the bottom line is this. We all know it's
hugely important John, as to whether there is a trial
in that Washington d c. January sixth case before November.
And the judges just chomping at the bit to get
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that trial going. This conservative majority, I think five or
six of them, they are absolutely going to send this
case back to the trial court to determine. Okay, they're
going to sid there are two buckets. There's an official
act bucket and a personal act bucket. Which of Trump's
various actions pressuring like pans, the fake electors, this and that,
(02:44):
Which act goes in which bucket? And that process of
distributing his acts into official and non official that's going
to kill Jacksmith's chance to hold the trial on the
January sixth. Election interference is going to be way after November.
So it's basically mission accomplished from Trump's standpoint, even if
he is the case, even if ultimately everybody decides, well, basically,
most of what you did was personal. There was an election.
(03:05):
It was campaign stuff. The key is this is going
to put off that case. It could put off the
Georgia case also, although as you know, if Fannie willis
da kerfuffle down there, that means they're probably not going
to have a Georgia trial down there anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So okay, what about the trial.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What about the Florida case with the with the documents, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Documents Yeah, that's kind of a blendo. Trump could say, well,
you know, I took the documents while I was still president.
That sounds kind of official. But then they're going to say, well,
after you a president, beyond your official capacity, you lied,
and you didn't hand the documents back, and you the stuff,
the top secret stuff in your in your bathroom. So
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who knows whether that could be affected or not. But frankly,
you know, the judge hasn't set a trial date in Florida,
the judge that was appointed by Donald Trump. I wouldn't
bet on that one going. So really, the only one
that's going to go is the one that's going right now,
Stormy Daniels in New York City, which most people agree
is the weakest of the four criminal cases and the
least important of the four criminal cases. You know, like
(04:06):
paying off a porn star is really something that goes
to the heart of democracy.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, Trump has the guts and the money to play
the system, push everything to the limit and find the
holes and find the weaknesses that nobody ever thought of before.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Oh. Absolutely, and these lawyers are absolutely implementing a strategy.
But in their role argument this morning, Justice Samuel Alito,
she used the old expression about you know, grand jury
can and dietah Ham sandwich, countless local das could prosecute
a president and all sorts of instability if a president
has to look over his shoulder during his term, oh am,
I going to get indicted by some Yahoo district attorney
(04:46):
in Oregon for taking a step that I think is
important and bold for the country. So yeah, it's a
tough question as to how much immunity a president should have.
But this court, I don't think this court wants to
look like there're Donald Trump's handmaid. I'm not going to
come out and say Donald Trump is right. He really
wants us to say that anything and everything a president
does he's immune from prosecution. It's a more logical approach.
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Let's sort out whether it was official or unofficial. But
that's going to take time and that's the key issue
from political.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then if Trump becomes president, he could end all
these prosecutions, correct, I mean he could give orders to
the Department of Justice to drop all these cases against him.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, a couple of angles there. First of all, theoretically
he could direct his Department of Justice with his new
attorney general. I don't think he's going to appoint Jeffrey's sessions. Again,
it's just a guess now. But anyway, the problem is
then people are going to be outraged and say it
sounds like Saturday night to massacre. You know, you're impeding justice.
The other angle is may a president pardon himself? And
(05:47):
that's unsettled. The courts have never addressed that. It sounds
a little flaky. There's a principle you can't be a
judge in your own case, but there's nothing in the
constitution that says you may not pardon yourself, and there
are limits on pardon in the constitution, so yeah, he
probably could get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, that's what's fascinating about the cases he's involved in
is inevitably what comes up in the case is, well, Jay,
that's not in the law, that's not in the constitution.
Nobody thought of this before the founding fathers didn't put
that in. And that's where he works the angles and
he finds the crevices and he slides his way through.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And there's so many issues in three hundred and nearly
three hundred years of our country that really haven't address
been addressed, like may have president pardon himself or the
immunity buckets. So yeah, the Supreme Court is thinking its
teeth into it. But you're right, he's exploiting some very interesting,
unsettled issues and the bottom line, as time is on
his side.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
All right, Royle, very good, thank you for coming on
with all that. You bet, all right, we'll ABC News.
The Supreme Court, it looks like they're not going to
give total immunity to Trump or any president for acts
he commits while president. Maybe immunity for public acts, but
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not private acts. But the real bottom line, the real
purpose of this was to delay the trial. And this
involves all the activity in Washington on January sixth, and
Trump's roll in that those charges are going to have
to be sorted out, perhaps after the decision comes down
in June, and then and the appeals court or the
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district court there is going to have to say, Okay,
this is protected under Trump's public decision making. This one's
not protected because this was a private issue. By time
they sort all that out, there's no way they get
the trial before November. And if he becomes president, he'll
kill the prosecution. And if he's not president, nobody's going
to care anymore. We will continue here when we come back.
(07:54):
Turns out things eventually got nuts at USC yesterday and
they arrested ninety three people. And also the National Review
did a story and they looked at some of the
interviews of students around the country and found that a
lot of these students. We touched on this yesterday, but
it's really true. A lot of these kids have no
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idea what they're protesting about, and they have no idea
that they're fighting for Palestine, Iran, Hamas and how they
would be treated based on their affinity group, how they
would be treated if they were in Palestine or Iran
or they were under the rule of Hamas, and just
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the colossal ignorance of these of these teenagers, really and
people in the early twenties who think they know everything.
Turns out they know almost nothing, but they like marching
around and screaming about it. More coming up.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Lets let's start with the USC thing, because it was
noisy at first and then it seemed to calm down.
I don't think after we had Chris Adler on early
in the show yesterday there was anything further newsworthy and
then I guess starting late afternoon into the evening, things
went went nuts because there were dozens of LAPD cops
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that were on the campus at four o'clock and they
formed a line around Alumni Park and that's where the
graduation is supposed to be next month, and they closed
the gates to the campus yet to show your ID
to prove that you belonged to the university in some way.
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The professors were given the option of conducting classes online,
and a lot of professors took that option, probably not
because they were scared of the protesters, but because they're
they're lazy slugs. At five, the USC Department of Public
Safety gave the protesters a ten minute warning to disperse
or face arrest. Now, this is the way you handle
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a protest. This is what they did not do in Columbia.
And protesters then gathered around the officers and started chanting,
and the LAPD officers marched towards the students carrying less
lethal weapons. There has to be a better phrase than
that less lethal weapons. Students got another ten minute warning.
(10:31):
Then there was an LAPD helicopter at a loud speaker
that blasted the message your time is up, leave the
area or you will be arrested for trespassing. Well, students
wouldn't move, and then a half hour later Lapd entered
the campus. Protesters chanted all we want is peace, and
(10:52):
the cops were having none of it. In fact, one
of the cops briefly raised his less lethal weapon and
the crowd started check outing whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like, yeah,
you want a rubber bullet in the forehead, whoa? And
nobody could say for sure if a rubber bullet was
shot or not, but a video posted showed an officer
(11:15):
shooting one towards a crowd that was off campus. But
they don't know for sure, and eventually ninety three people
were arrested. By nine thirty, the crowd had dispersed and
some officers stayed to stand guard.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Your daughter was there, Did she run into any nonsense?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
She didn't, But she when she went out for lunch
because she goes to the law school there, so it
was kind of away from where the protests were happening.
But then she couldn't get back on campus for a
long time. Then she had to show her ID. And
you know what really stinks about all this is that
so she has finals tomorrow. Yeah, and so these students
have finals this week and they have to deal with this.
(11:56):
I mean how it's very distracting. And graduation next month
and you can't.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Just relax and enjoy anything because of the you know,
we have a few hundred whack jobs. Don't don't these
whack jobs have finals or these all outside agitators?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Who I mean, I I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean the selfishness, the the the ego of these
people that they think by shouting into the wind that
they're going to affect a war on the other side
of the and and just and this is not just
an inconvenience. This is a major disruption during an important
time of the school year. And and and they should
all be arrested, and they should be arrested and thrown
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in jail like for the rest of the semester, so
they can't do anything further to disrupt people's education. I
was reading today that this is you know, some of
the kids, they've had such a disruptive college experience because
it started in COVID right right, and they were isolated
in their rooms online and now it's ending with with
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with this none.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Well, USC canceled main graduation. They did that today, they
canceled it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
They can't. I didn't know that. Yeah, oh see, that's sad.
That's wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Their main stage graduation where since five thousand people come
every year.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh, that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's a security Yeah, because because of insane toddlers. And
I'll talk about some of these people when we come
back and they're completely ignorant. They don't know what they're
yelling about and who they're yelling for, and they don't
know what would be like if they lived in the
countries that they are protesting for. It's like if you
actually lived in Iran or lived in Palestine, what your
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life would be like. I have never seen such stupidity
and ignorance and selfishness in my life. It's like they're
all acting out some kind of massive nervous breakdown.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And then they're they're they're talking about it's free speech.
You're trying to take away our free speech.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, your free speech doesn't mean you get disrupt everyone's life.
You know, my free speech doesn't mean I can I
can come and shout in your ear at two o'clock
in the morning while you're sleeping you are creating a
big public nuisance, a big public ruckus. Oh what do
they usc They shouldn't be canceling graduation, but they were
(14:14):
trying to harass these idiot protesters. They have a no
camping law, and every time the tents were put down
on the ground by the students, the campus went after
the tents, and so the students end up carrying the
tents and walking around in a circle so they couldn't
be accused of camping.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
As a farce, the whole thing is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Now when we come back, National Review looked at some
of the stories, some of the interviews around the country,
and what is overwhelming that will blow your mind is
how little all these teenagers and people in their early
twenties know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They think they're so worldly. They think they're you know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
They're citizens of the world, and they're having an impact
on global policy and American foreign policy, and that they're
you know, this is going to be a turning point
in world history. They have no idea what this is about.
They don't have no idea who they're defending and fighting for,
and that they themselves. If they were in these countries,
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some of them would be executed for the lifestyles they lead.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Tell you about it. We come back.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Six forty moistline.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Hey, we're playing calls tomorrow eight seven seven Moist eighty
six is the number eight seven seven moist eighty six.
Or you can use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio
app and Tomorrow's the day if you want to be
heard by the rest of the audience. Now, what is
fascinating to me is is just the the existence of
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these protests, and then the coverage of the protests, and
how little is done to dissect the personality disorders that
a lot of these people have. They really do have
personality disorders. They're chanting is vacuous, I mean, as empty
as a Kardashian. There's it's just stupid rhymes. It's a
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lot of toddler behavior. Toddlers like rhymes. Toddlers like to
stamp their feet and scream really loud, and if they
don't get their way, you know, have a big hissy
fit and start throwing things. And so it's the glorification
of toddler behavior in the bodies of people who are
roughly between eighteen and twenty two years old, whose parents
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are spending sixty seventy eighty thousand dollars a year and
more for an elite education that more or less guarantees
them a very comfortable, upper middle class life. And yet
these people seem to be so unhappy and rest so
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desiring of being noticed, of having some effect on the world.
I mean, if they could put all these energies into
something real, you know, there's a lot of places you
could volunteer. There's a lot of ways when you're twenty
years old with a lot of energy to have an
impact on other people's lives who weren't that fortunate. And
yet no, they stamp around like little babies, screaming and yelling,
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and then if you talk to them, you find out
they don't know much about what they're protesting over. I'm
gonna play this clip again yesterday, and this is a
clip of a couple of protesters who were actually quizzed
about why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
There's the main goal with tonight's protest.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think the roles are showing support from Palestine and
demanding that Nyu saw I honestly don't know all of
what ny is doing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Is there something that NYU's doing. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I'm pretty sure there.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Do you know what n why he is doing about
protesting here?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
More educated?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I wish I was more educated. Do you know what
NYU is doing about Israel?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Do you know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean that if it wasn't for the threat of violence,
if it wasn't that, they're blocking regular students from attending
class and enjoying life and graduating and going to final exams.
This is a laughing stock. It's a farce. There's nothing
meaningful in it, just because overgrown babies go outside and
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have a toddler fit. It's like, well, look what the
youth of today thinks about these issues.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It gives a crap.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I was twenty. Who gives a crap what I thought
when I was twenty. I didn't know anything. Nobody does
when they're that young. I don't know why we feel
the need to worship. This is what the young people
are upset.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Let's shut up.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Spending on This is an article in the National Review
by Caylea bartch And She was looking at some of
the protesters at campuses around the country and noticed, in
addition to setting up tents. She noted that a lot
of them said they actually don't know why they're protesting,
but they want to support Palestine, you know, solidarity of Palestine.
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And in between the tents, their display of resistance included
performing interpretive dances for decolonization. You know, Israel has colonized Palestine.
That's their argument. So in order to get Israel to
stop colonizing Palestine, they are doing interpretive dances. They weave
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friendship bracelets, they sell incense and essential oils, and they
are vaping for the oppressed as well. Now, at some
of the Ivy League encampments, there's an overlap between LGBTQ
you advocates and the Free Palestine advocates. And I can't
(20:04):
even read these signs, but I'll give you the gist
of them. Among the signs at Colombia was trans Gaze
for Palestine, except they used the F word, you know,
the sexual F word, trans for fat Palestine, also trans
Lesbians for Palestine. Okay, Now, Caleb Artch writes, who's going
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to tell them that they would be the gays and
the lesbians would be the first to be executed under
Shariah law, which is what they're protesting for Palestine is
run under Shariah law, so is Palestine's boss Iran. The
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supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran is Ali Hamani,
the Iyatola Hamiani, and he posted his support on Twitter
of the college encampments. And what Caleb Barshrow is how
satisfying for him to watch the children of America's elite
praise Hamas and Hezbollah, which are funded, trained, and armed
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by Iran to achieve the twin goals of death to
America and death to Israel. That's what the boys and
girls are doing over at USA and UCLA today. Now,
if these students were protesting in Iran.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Huh you were worried about me?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And yeah, right, Well, they'd be sentenced to death. Here's
an example.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There is.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
An Iranian rapper named Tumage Selehi and he was protesting
over the killing of a young woman in police custody. Well,
Tumage got the death sentence from protesting. Now, Masa Amini
was the woman killed in police custody. You know what
she did wrong? Improper wearing of a he job. That's
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one of the crimes that you could be severely punished
for in Iran. You're not wearing your heat job properly.
You don't see these girls at USC protesting over that. Huh.
Iranian women cannot sing or dance solo in public. They
cannot ride a bicycle, they cannot attend matches in sports arenas.
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There are certain education subjects they're not allowed to but
they're not allowed to study. They cannot hold any offices
of power. Violence against women is a norm under the
Islamic Republic of Iran. According to Iranian law, adultery is
punishable by stoning. Violating the he job rules is punishable
(22:44):
by seventy lashes. Do you think any of the girls
at USC protesting yesterday knows this.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I would just love to.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
See their faces and go, h oh, that's not cool.
Many young women and middle aged women receive this punishment.
Homosexuality is illegal under the Islamic Republic law in Iran.
Same sex crimes, that's right, crimes are subjected to hudad,
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which is a punishment under Shriah law, where whoever is
making the claim is deemed to be God. So if
somebody goes to an Iranian law enforcement official and says, hey,
those two were having gay sex, the person making the
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claim is considered to be God. This is God filing
the claim. Punishments are severe. In fact, sodomy known as
levat is punishable by death where a judge determines when
it judge determines that penetration was involved. Zero percent of
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these college children, these toddlers know this because if you
support Palestine, you support Hamas, you support Haran, you support
Shariah law, you support the strictest form of Islam as
for Hamas, because Hamas is Palestine, Palestine is Amas. The
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norm in Hamas in Gaza is they throw women in
jail or worse for the crime of organizing zoom calls,
and if you have extramarital sex, also jail. Article eighteen
of the Hamas Covenant of nineteen eighty eight decrees that
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women in the home of the fighting family, whether she
is a mother or a sister, plays the most important
role in looking after the family, rearing the children, and
imbuing them with moral values and thoughts derived from Islam.
That's not exactly a feminist manist, oh is it. In
other words, while the men are out fighting for freedom,
you're supposed to stay in the house and raise the kids.
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This is what these protesters. This is these are the countries,
the religion, the terrorist groups. This is what the USC
kids and the UCLA kids are supporting. They're absolute idiots.
They're intellectual idiots, they're moral idiots. They don't have a
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shred of knowledge. All they know it's really cool to
go out and chant and stamp your feet and bank
drums and chanting rhymes, which is exactly what you would
find in a Jimbree class.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Too bad somebody can't go to these protests with a
bullhorn because you know, it's so loud, it's bewhelming there
and just spew off everything you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, well, their reaction probably be just to screen outer
because there's there's so much cognitive dissonance. Anything they hear
that counteracts whatever belief system they they'll just reject.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I suspect.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Then they don't belong on these elite campuses.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, no, And this is what gets into the this
is what all I mean. Geez.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know, I raised my kids on the West Side,
and everybody was fighting, turning their kids into a basket cases,
trying to get them into these kinds of schools. And
you get there and these are not elite intellects. It's
not filled with all this great U intellectual firepower and talents.
Now just a bunch of spoiled rich kids. The dilettants.
(26:41):
They're they're, they're they're. They've had everything taken care of
it for them in life, so life doesn't really have
any meaning. They have nothing to fight for in their
own life because they know, more or less everything's taken
care of Mom and dad drop dead. I'm inheriting millions
of dollars and I'll.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Do what I want.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
These are the ones that are going to want to
work from home.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, they inherit their parents' house and they work from
home and they talk on zoom all day. And so
these are the great moral intellects who are now screaming
out in the street. Probably ought to stop covering them all.
They're not really not worth the time.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Coming up right after Devers at two o'clock news, We're
going to talk to John Lewin, Deputy DA. We've had
him on many times and he's got a lot to
stay about the latest gascon scandal. It never stops. He
hired Gascone hired a former public defender named Diana Tehan
(27:42):
as an assistant district attorney, not a deputy DA which
most of the prosecutors have as a title, but an
assistant district attorney, basically part of the gascone upper tier
of his administration. And she is being charged with eleven
felonies that she illegally, illegally accessed information about police officers,
(28:09):
some of whom that she was investigating. These were their
private work records, confidential records, and she broke the law,
so says Rob Bonta, the California Attorney General. Neilsom's buddy,
Rob Bonta, is going after gascon's top administrator, Diana Tehran
(28:31):
and it's eleven charges, eleven felonies. Hard to believe Gascon
didn't know about all this. We'll talk with John Lewin
coming up while we got a minute. We've been discussing
all the college demonstrations here at USC and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
This is from UCLA today.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I guess this is Chip Yost from KTLA Channel five
to the reporter, and you're gonna hear a clip of
him and apparently him, he and the cameraman for Channel five.
I've got into it. With a protester who did not
want to be recorded on video.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I'm allowed to be here to report one.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Do you want to protect these undergraduate's First Amendment rights?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I am concerned about covering this story.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Do you want to I don't. Do you want to
protect their.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
First Amendment rights? They're allowed to come over here and
talk to me if they want to. Okay, our camera
is being physically pulled from us right now.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You believe this is appropriate?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
All this? And why are you here?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You're here because you're protesting.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
You want your message out you yet you are trying
to kick us out of your area where your protests.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Just answer the question, Oh, it's kind of hard.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
To talk to you when they're pulling my photographer away.
They're assaulting my photographer. They're assaulting my photographer over So
you believe you have the right to control this entire area,
control who comes and goes. Do you do you believe?
Do you believe you have the right to control who
comes and goes in this area? Do you understand the
First Amendment? I don't think you do, because you do.
You understand you're allowed to protest, but you think you
(29:54):
have the right to keep the media from covering your
protest media.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Do you do you respect to these undergraduates First Amendment
right to protest?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yes, that's why we're here covering it. That's why we
are here covering it. We are giving you covering it,
and yet you are trying to keep us out here
from covering it.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
We are asking you for the safety of these undergraduates who.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Can face How is their safety in danger.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Because these undergraduates can face expulsion for protesting, for exercising
their First Amendment rights because they are not protected. So
we're asking you to only film people with their express consents.
We have plenty of people.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
You realize that, you realize that as a ridiculous request.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I realized that you if you care about people, do
you care?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
There?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You go?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, the moral authorities, all right, we'll have much more
of that throughout the days. Okay, that's chipy ost kati La.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They were assaulting his photographer and pulling the camera away,
and they notice how they put you on the moral defensive.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, don't you care about hey?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
If you don't want to suffer the consequences of supporting
terrorism in public, then go home, stay in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Better yet, go to the classroom.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And go learn something about history, learn something about current events. Dude,
they don't teach this stuff, I guess anywhere anymore high
school and college. That places like Iran, places like Gaza
are run by Sharia law, are run by religious zealots.
The things they do to women in these countries, and
(31:23):
the things they do to gaze and lesbians and all
the members of the alphabet right, all the torture that
goes on, they have no idea. He has no idea
that kid about what the First Amendment is. First Amendment
says that Chip Yost can can stick his microphone out
and stick the camera out and record what's going on
(31:44):
in a public space, and if you don't want to
be exposed and have some kind of some kind of consequences,
then don't go.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's part of your freedom too.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You have the freedom to express yourself, and you have
the freedom not to express yourself and stay home because
you don't want deal with the consequences. The First Amendment
doesn't mean you don't have consequences for speaking your opinion.
It depends on the time and place. The First Amendment
just says the government can't take away you're right to
speak out, but a private university who think you're stirring
(32:17):
up trouble on their private land.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, of course they could set the rules.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
If they say, look, we're not gonna have any public
demonstrations or you get suspended, then that's their rule. Then
don't go to the university. But the moral superiority don't
you care?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
How about I don't care? Coming up, we're going to
talk to John Lewin.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And John Lewin is a Deputy DA and big scandal
in George Gascone's office. One of his top administrators is
the Assistant District Attorney Diana Turan, and she is now
charged with eleven felonies by the State Attorney General that
she accessed eleege lacks private information about police officers' records
(33:06):
while being employed as cops. And we'll get into the
details coming up. Hey, you've been listening to The John
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