May 1, 2024 • 32 mins
ABC News' Peter Charalambous talks about Donald Trump's Gag Order. UCLA Anti-Israel Protesters' list of Demands. KFI's Kris Adler gives a live update on UCLA Anti-Israel Protest
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Caf I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app Much to do this hour, Chris Adler is going
to come on from CAFI News after three point thirty
because things are bubbling up again at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
She's on that beat.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're going to tell you about the hand to hand
combat classes that anti Israel protesters took before the violence
broke out, and we'll we'll go through their programming that
they actually had a program to ready themselves for combat.
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And we also have some other documents here about the
UCLA Palestine Solidarity Group and the things they're asked, the
donations they're asking for. They they're the medical, food, and
other logistical needs that they have. So we're going to
go through that list to give you an idea of
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how organized they are and how they want to dig
into the long haul with supplies and obviously they're getting
a lot of supplies from these outside groups.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Let's go now to ABC News.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Corresponded Peter Harlambus, and he has been covering the Trump
trial and the judge of the case, Juan Marchon, has
Warren Trump he might go to jail if what Peter.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, Donald Trump at this point has been indicted
four times over the last year. We never really saw
the possibility of Trump being behind bars before the twenty
twenty four election. That kind of changed yesterday when Judge
Van Marshon issued this ruling about the gag order in
Donald Trump's criminal case here in New York. Rashon find
Donald Trump at the time nine thousand dollars for nine
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different violations of the cases limited gag order. But notably
in his ruling, he warned Trump that if you were
to violate the case's gag order again, the former president
could be in parserrated for it. We know that Secret
Service officials here in New York have discussed that possibility.
The logistics of locking up Donald Trump, according sources familiar
with the matter, and the ball is kind of in
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Donald Trump's court at the moment to see whether or
not his rhetoric will change or if you will continue
making statements about witnesses or the jurors in the case.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was there any reaction from Trump of the defense team.
Did they say okay, okay, we get it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So we didn't see any clear acknowledgment of the gagwader
Rulin coming down, though, Trump continued to rail against the
judge in the case. Judges, Trump has made an effort
to have the judge accused, arguing that he's conflicted because
of the political work of his daughter. Coincidentally, Trump lost
his appeal on that front related to the recusal yesterday,
So with kind of that double whammy of legal issues,
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Trump argued that the judges bias conflicted immediately should be recused,
though there's no indication that Trump has any legal recourse
to get the judge off the case at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, well, it seems like Trump's method here is just
to create as much much of a ruckus as possible,
whether it goes anywhere with the judge or goes anywhere
on appeals is really almost beside the point. He just
wants to make the whole process as difficult as possible
and make everyone involved as uncomfortable as possible.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That sounds about right if you have the prosecutors in
the case. I mean, they said explicitly during hearing last
week that while they aren't asking for incarceration, at the moment,
Trump seems to be angling for it. Trump himself has
compared himself to a modern day now Samandela. When it
comes to this gag order, and notably in terms of
the actual proceedings, Trump's lawyers are refusing to do some
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basic tasks during the trial itself. For example, prosecutors usually
sign stipulations with defense attorneys during a trial. Essentially, it
allows the process of the actual proceeding to speed up
because you don't have to call individual witnesses to verify
that evidence is real. Basically, you can sign a document,
or you can haul someone in from Apple, for example,
to say that that iCloud account is indeed belonging to
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the person who the search warrant was written towards. But
Trump's lawyers are refusing to do that. It looks like
we're going to have to call in about a dozen
or more additional witnesses, dragging on the case by at
least a few more days. It seems like commotion and
delays are pretty common tactic here.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Normally, both sides agree what is obvious evidence.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just basically yeah, And in this case, yesterday we had
to hear we heard testimony from a court reporter who
verified that, you know, he that a deposition that was
taken in one of Trump's civil cases was legit and
an archivist from c SPAN who confirmed that Donald Trump
was indeed the person in a video from twenty sixteen
at a campaign event in Virginia and North Carolina. So
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it seems like this trial is dragging gone in a
lot of different ways, not only with this commotion by
the gag order, but also just the basic steps of
the case at times.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You may not know this, but are is there any
legal chatter going on among the lawyers and analysts about
how far they think the judge Marchon can be pushed
because Trump is obviously Trump calculates people's weaknesses all the
time and tries to look for weak points that he
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can exploit in people's personalities. And I'm sure he's been
analyzing Merchon to see how much he can get away with.
Is there any sense of a people who knew Merchon,
other lawyers perhaps on how much Murchon would put up with,
because that's going to be a drastic step if he
puts Trump in jail, because you just don't know what
that's going to unleash.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So legally speaking, there's no limit on pretty much what
Trump can say about Mershon. The gag order doesn't place
any prohibition on statements about Mershon. But I guess in
researching Trump in Mersham, the judge overseeing this case, I
guess it's important to note his background. Mishan, in his
spare time on Wednesdays when court isn't sitting, oversees a
mental health court and a veterans treatment court here in
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New York. Basically, these are treatment courts that exist kind
of for alternatives to incarceration, basically, and over the course
of interviewing a bunch of friends and colleagues Rashon, they
kind of suggested to me that Mirshan is in a
way blessed with a ton of patients, given the fact
that he spends you know, countless days out of his
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year dealing with defendants in those settings. So we're kind
of volatile, yes, So in the play, it's way possible.
These folks I spoke with suggested that that prepares Michon
for this hearing. Though. You know, it's interesting in court
because you could kind of see when he's about to
erupt at times. For example, Trump and his lawyers showed
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up late on multiple occasions. Yesterday, Trump scolded, sorry, Mishan scolded.
Trump's defense attorney after one occasion, and he kind of
restrained himself after the second occasion. But you know, it
seems as though Mirshon is somewhat prepared, at least for
the unique circumstances of this case.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Peter, thanks very much. We'll talk with you again soon.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Peter har Alambus with the ABC News. He's an investigative reporter.
He's on the Trump trial beat. What we come back?
How about the hand to hand combat classes that the
pro Hamas protesters took at UCLA. And we're going to
talk with Chris Adler too after three point thirty about
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there's anything bubbling up again? Wait till you hear their programming.
I have their programming sheet here. The protesters they're getting
prepared for well, I guess they weren't to all that
prepared last night because the Jewish guys who came in
and beat them up I think took them by surprise.
But we'll go through their list of supplies that they
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are demanding, the donations that they want for their encampment.
And you have the use the president of the UC
system demanding investigation into UCLA over why did they let
this all happen last night all coming up.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty oh.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The Moistline hadn't mentioned in a while.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You might have a lot to say about all these
pro Hamas rioters eight seven seven moist eighty six eight
seven seven moist eighty six and the fools at UCLA administration,
so you can share anything there. You could also use
the talkback feature on the iHeart app for the Moistline
eight seven seven moist eighty six. Also on social media,
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you can follow us at John Cobelt Radio and if
you go to our Instagram site, we have really cool
video that Blake Trully took of all the mayhem at
UCLA and lots of people have already discovered it. I
forgot even to mention it, and I'm sorry about that,
but you should go. Blake's got some great video about
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the UCLA activity at John Cobelt Radio, and that's that's
good for all the social media sites.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
All right, this is almost comical.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The pro Hamas protesters at UCLA had hand to hand
combat classes inside their encampment just hours before the violence
broke out. Now, to be fair for it, just a
minute they were attacked by Jewish men. One witness says
it seemed not to be students but outsiders who were
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just fed up with the Jews being well, not being
allowed to go into their classes in the library and
being blocked. The organizers at the UCLA Palestine's Solidarity Encampment,
that's their official name, they promoted a course entitled Dealing
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with Cops Workshop and that was held yesterday evening at
six thirty and there's a video online showing the course.
Protesters gathered in a circle and there's a group in
the middle that teaches them how to take blows from police.
One of the demonstrators showed off the proper form the
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students should take in a fight that protects their faces.
And one man shows how this stance helps walck a punch,
and another shows how easily you can knock a person
back after their leg is grabbed.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Along with their training.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Protesters were equipped with hard hats and trash cans that
they could use as riot shields, and so they were
ready when the counter protesters and the police came storming
in later in the evening.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now I have their.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Their programming, that's what they call it. April thirtieth program.
From four thirty to five thirty, someone named Saint Levant
was going to give a speech. Then at five point
thirty there was going to be a reading circle. Again
this is so jimboree, like a reading circle strategy for
the liberation of Palestine. Why don't these stupid bastards go
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to Palestine and join Hamas?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What are they doing here? What a bunch of cowards?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
All these pales Didian protesters are our play aft like
little children. It's like when kids used to play cowboys
and Indians. They're playing Jews and terrorists. What are you
doing in Los Angeles? The action is in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Go there.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
None of these people really want to help the cause.
Why don't you go there and at least feed the
local people. Six to eight o'clock is dinnertime. That's a
two hour dinner. What was the last time you had
a two hour dinner? And they're getting the food donated.
This is a good racket, all right. Then six thirty
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to seven thirty, I guess this overlaps with dinner time,
dealing with cops, the workshop, and then this one cracked
me up. From seven thirty to eight o'clock COVID testing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I didn't even know they did that anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
First of all, they're all wearing masks and heads go.
Not that it stops COVID to where knows, But yeah,
why are they doing coviding. They're much more in danger
than getting their heads beat in, either by the counter
protesters or the police. Then this is the Kapper. I
am not making any of this up. This is on
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their website or on their social media feed. From eight
thirty to nine o'clock after the COVID testing, after the
hand to had combat workshop, eight thirty nine o'clock, therapists
led grieving and processing circle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What are they grieving? I don't know. Maybe dinner. They
wanted a three hour dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Therapists led a grieving and processing and then from ten
pm to six am those are the quiet hours.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Opes.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Why aren't we grieving about all those hostages that are
being held by Hamas.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm sure the grieving about all the Israeli babies who
got murdered and Israeli women they got raped. But yeah,
ten to six last night, which was when the riots
were happening, that was supposed to be the quiet hours.
Now here's the list of needs according to the Palestine
Solidarity Encampment. Please ensure their donations are BDS compliant. I
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think that has to do with you can't use companies.
There's a lot of companies being boycotted by this crowd
because they do business with Israel. So if you buy this,
please be aware that you cannot buy these items from
from companies.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That have their standards.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, this is urgent. They need headlamps, airsoft goggles. They
need gas masks and respirators. They need skater helmets, shields,
wood for barriers, knee and elbow pads, rain ponchos, canopies,
utility gloves, super bright flashlights with stroke light, and umbrellas. Uh.
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They need EpiPens, non steroid inhalers. Ah, it looks like
some of the terrorist supporters might have allergies. Maybe they're
allergic to bees. They also emphasize headlamps again. And let's see,
Oh the food that they want. They want hot food
for lunch three exclamation points important in capital letters, with
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several more exclamation points. Hot food for lunch number two,
And you could expect this vegan food.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Wait a second, don't no, no, no, no, no, it's fanatics.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, I'm a pall it's crazy people. No, of course
there's the vegans. Let's definitely lump them in.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, is going to be part of the program.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, I'm not. Well, you have vegan food, I mean,
stop buying to see what they have run away?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And then they want gluten free food because you know
that's the real danger gluten. No packaged food, no coffee,
no bagels, no bananas, no nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Why no bananas? I can understand nuts, because you know
they're asking for EpiPens.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I guess they're all allergic. They also want sleeping pads, batteries, rope.
That's not a good size, zip ties? What do you
need zip ties for for a peaceful protest? Generators, lotion
aquafor no sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, they're planning on I don't not protesting when it's hot.
I guess, so they'll stay in their tent dur every day.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We're gonna have Chris Adler from CAFI News at UCLA
right now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
See what's going on. That's neck.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Six forty round from one until four and then after
four o'clock Belt Show on demand on the iHeart app
you can hear what you miss Conway coming up at
four o'clock. The La Times has just published within the
last half hour a timeline of what went wrong last
night with the various police agencies and why nobody showed
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up and was ready to do battle with either the
protesters supporting the terrorists or the counter protesters supporting Israel
and the Jewish students. We'll get into that coming up,
but first let's look at what's happening now at UCLA
with Chris Adler KFI News.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Chris, Hey, John, So, yeah, I'm at UCLA right now,
right now. I was just outside of Powell Library. That
library was overrun and it's still overtaken by these pro
Palestinian protesters within the camp now CCHP is posted outside.
There are several officers posted outside of that library. Any
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protesters that walk out from the camp and go through
the library and exit, they are being blocked from re entering.
They're not let anybody letting anybody go in, so nobody
can go in and anybody who comes out is not
allowed back in. But we watched as as these protesters
tried to bring in supplies food, water, looks like art supplies.
They tried to carry in and Seegp stop them from
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getting in the into the library. And as I was
standing out there, John this guy comes up and he's like,
I'm a medic. I need to get in. I need
to get in, and tries to push his way through
Siegp and they stop him and they go they're, they're, they're,
they're telling him no one is allowed in. You're not
going in. There's no entry there, you can't get in.
He goes, I'm a medic. I need to get in.
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Those people need me. So as he's he's he's been
turned away. He's walking away and I catch up with him.
I asked him, I said, so you were inside. He goes, yeah,
I was inside before. I was taking care of people.
But we've got injuries from last night's Zionists attacks and
I need to get in and help people, and they're
not letting me in. And then a guy comes running
up behind us, and he runs up to that guy
who says he's a medic. By the way, he's a
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non student. He said, he is a non student. Sorry
forgive me, he said, he's a non student. Another person
runs up, another non student. He goes, hey, man, I'm
not a doctor. I'm not a student, but I want
to help you, so let me know what I can do.
And then they walked off and were talking about what
they could do. So you know, there's a large police
presence out here, John that we did not see yesterday.
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And when I got on scene this morning, there were
a couple dozen. There are much more now c HP,
LAPD and Beverly Hills Pdjohn.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And how many students or protesters do they think are
inside this library.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, they're walking in and out of the library, so
they don't know how many are inside. But there are
least there are at least at least fifty camps. And
when I talked to a woman who came out, she
says there's about two hundred people inside of the camp.
A woman walked out of the library and she was
wearing a Palestinian shawl and she's she's not a student,
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and she goes, I'm just here helping them clean up
inside the camp. She goes, I'm not a student, and
I the camp. Library, No, the camp. So if you
walk through the camp, if you walk through Powell Library,
you can that exit. You can exit is facing the camp,
so they can they can go into the library and
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possibly use the bathrooms in there. Yeah, but if they leave,
if they exit on that on that exit where the
media check in is for that camp, they are not
allowed back in. So a woman walked out and she
said she was she's not a student, she's just in
there helping the students clean up, manage things, keep keep
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an eye on things, keep things in order.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So how many camps are on the car There.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Are at least fifty tents that are Yeah, right outside
of Royce Hall, which has been shut down. The they've
closed Royce Hall, they've closed classes today, and you know,
the police are getting closer to this camp. I was
watching and listening to the protesters behind the boards the plywood.
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I thought for a moment that they were taking it
down because UCLA has ordered this. They said it's an
unlawful gathering. They need to now disperse, And I was listening.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They weren't.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
They weren't breaking it down, John, They were actually reinforcing it.
And I heard one of the leaders inside of the
camp giving instructions to the protesters to create a multi
layered at least three layers of barricade.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
They were taught.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
They said, we have new rules now, and he was saying,
we've got to we've got to reinforce this barricade. And
you could hear power tools drills drilling on the plywood
to try to rest If.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I understand this right, the fifty tents that comprise this
camp has been declared unlawful by.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The police, by UCLA.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
By UCLA, Okay, so why is it still there? And
why aren't the police dismantling the tents, you know, instead
you're saying they're reinforcing. They're in camp.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
They yeah, the camp is, they're reinforcing. But what I'm
seeing is, you know, the police are gathering. We're seeing
a much bigger police presence than we saw a couple
hours ago. So I don't know if this means that
LAPD and c HP are all getting ready to go
in and dismantle this. What we don't know. We don't know.
They're standing around. Police won't answer, they won't tell us,
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they're just kind of you know, I'm watching as LAPD's
putt up yellow tie.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I guess what I don't understand here at UCLA and
at Columbia is why the police and the administration they
don't take care of this problem.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
In real time.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
As soon as the first two tents pop up, it's like, no, guys,
that's going down, now, get out immediately, Just everybody out.
They let it fester sometimes for weeks, and then it
blows and everybody stands around going what happened? Well, you
can't let them have one tent up. It's like homeless.
You know, you let one tent in your neighborhood, you're
gonna get a hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well. UCLA has gone on record and said that they
were supporting their students' freedom of expression and speech up
until it got violent. But I spoke to several students
today that said the only today they've received or yesterday,
they received their first email from campus letting students know
that the library was going to be closed, that Royce
Hall was going to be closed. This was before they
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decided to close class this morning. But students are outraged.
They don't understand why the university didn't take action before.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, there's no constitutional right to pitch a tent.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Well, this is a public campus, and so the university,
from their perspective, was trying to give the students, you know,
from what they've said, an opportunity to peacefully protest. But
several things have happened, and I've been here for them, John,
where it did get violent and it got scary at times,
but students were saying, well, you know it got scary
three days ago. Where was UCLA at that time? Were
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they waiting for someone to get to seriously hurt? And
so after that violence last night, they closed, they closed classes.
But like I said, we're watching police come in here,
I'm seeing more patrol. So we don't really know what's
going on. Have reached out to UCLA to get an answer.
They will not respond. We're just trying to figure out
what's happening. What's the plan If there there's no plan.
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You can tell there's no plan from the protesters to
break this up. So when does LAPD go in and
make those arrests? If that's going to happen, because they've
now they've called this, they have deemed it an unlawful
gathering lawfully on.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Campus, they should break it up. Are Chris Adler excellent?
Thank you very much? All right, thanks John for that
report at UCLA. Chris Adler, Caffeine News. We're going to
go through a rundown of the timeline from last night.
The Eelsigunda Times has put together uh has explained how
slow the various police agencies were and how inept the
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administrators were in quelling that riot last night.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI A sixty.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
In the last hour, LA Times published a timeline of
what went on, because everybody is wondering, how did he
get so out of hand? Where are the police? Where
were the administrators? And everyone wants to know, including the
uc administrators, the bosses of UCLA. They want to know
how the hell this happened. All right, so I'm going
to go quickly to this. We only have a couple
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of minutes, but it says when the counter protesters. Now,
remember you had a group of Israeli supporters swarming in
to UCLA late last night attacking the Palestinian encampment, and
law enforcement sources told The Times there were only a
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few UCLA police officers on hand. How stupid is that
for the UCLA administration, the Chancellor Gene block Head. They
tried to stop the violence, but they were completely overmatched
and they had to retreat because they got attacked themselves. Okay,
so the UCLA police campus police are out of the picture.
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There was a group of unarmed private security guards. Again
with the unarmed gee were they ambassadors? But the guards
were supposed to protect the buildings, not break up fights
or make arrests, so they weren't of any use. It
would take three hours for CHP officers and LAPD and
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other agencies to finally show up and bring it under control,
and everybody's going, what the hell. A spokeshole for Newsom
says the limited and delayed campus law enforcement response at
UCLA last night was unacceptable and demands answers. Wow, even
Newsom's pissed. The UC president now this again. President of
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the whole UC system, Michael Drake wrote a letter to
the Board of Regents saying that somebody's got to explain here.
There is sufficient confusion. I'm ordering an independent review of
useulea's planning in action. They didn't plan and there we
wasn't any action. You know, if this guy Drake gets
a response, he's going to get a blank sheet of paper.
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UCLA had no plans to do anything. They were in
the tank for the Hamas supporters. It says here at
USC the encampment students were arrested en masked by LAPD
at UCLA, they could protest all day and night and
nobody in law enforcement would bother them, even when on
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Sunday when some pro israel protesters showed up and there
were some scuffling, the uniformed response was minimal. Then Tuesday night,
that's when a larger group of Israeli protesters counter protesters
came in, and one professor of Jewish history at UCLA
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is David Myers. He says, there needs to be consequences,
there needs to be changes.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's a total system failure.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
We need to look our selves in the eye and say,
how the hell did this happen. Well, it's because the
administrators side with these Palestinian terrorists.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's why. I mean, it's not that complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Their sympathies lie with the Palestinian protesters who are supporting
the terrorists.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's the beginning and end of this.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
The violence began around ten thirty when the counter protesters arrived.
People inside the encampment, the Palestinians began asking for help.
Notice I'm not describing anybody as being an American. I
don't know where. I don't even those people are citizens.
I don't know where they came from. I don't know
if they're here in student visas. I don't know if
they came here illegally. I don't know what their allegiance is,
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although I have a feeling it's not to the US.
The counter protesters they had their own masks, black and white,
and they tried to break down the barricades, and they
started shooting fireworks at the Palestinians and kicking down the
wooden boards around the camp.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
See, you set up an encampment and you.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Reinforce it with wooden boards and gates, you're just asking
for the enemy to come in and tear it down again.
UCLA created this problem because they're stupid. John Thomas is
the chief of the Ucla Police Department. He didn't respond
to a comment with The Times, but he told the
Daily Bruin paper that his officers came under attack and
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he only had five or six, some say only four.
LA Times courts a deputy sheriff in Modoc County who's
an advisor, that this is essentially a private matter. It's
UCLA's campus. It's the school's decision to call a LAPD,
even though UCLA is on state land. It's also an independent.
(28:39):
It's like its own independent entity, its own town. So
outside police forces do not enter the campus without approval.
I didn't know that UCLA is treated as if it's
Beverly Hills. And it took till three in the morning
till the police operation was fully complete. Law enforce and
(29:00):
didn't even start showing up till after one thirty. And
it took an hour and a half to get up
to speed. And now Geene Block, the chancellor said that
the incident is a dark chapter in our A dark
chapter in our campus is history. Well, what were you
doing all evening? What were you doing? Yes, Conway's here,
(29:20):
you know, it's a darker chapter in UCLA's history. Their
football team. All right, the earth quake today, do you
feel it? You know, Debora and I were in here
talking and we didn't notice it. Really, Yeah, everybody else did.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well, this building is on rollers and and so you're
not going to feel anything in this building. You're going
to watch Burbank get wiped out while you're sitting in
this building. We roll up and back like on skates,
and this building will end up in Silmar. But you'll
be fine. Right, We have ted Ziggenbush coming on today
talked about the Kentucky Derby. You gotta get a hit,
we gotta. I need the release for Saturday. I need
(29:56):
the hit, I need the winner. And then remember last
night the Dodgers had a two hour delay because of
the bees. Yes, we got the guy on coming on
today that took that bee hive down. He did it
quickly to unbelievable. Yeah, guy walks in there in front
of forty thousand or four thousand people in Arizona. What
did he vacuum him? I think he vacuumed him? And
he doesn't there's a new age way to do it.
(30:18):
You convince him to fly elsewhere. It's not weird. Could
he work that magic on the protesters?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And then we've been talking about this in the hallway
and I've been voted to ask you, and we didn't
want to do it off the air because we're all uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But how much do you make a year here? How
much do I make a year? Yeah, we're all wondering.
Who's wondering?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
The guys.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, they don't care. The guys, they're not going to
get any of it.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
I told you, Fellas Bellio's wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Doesn't matter. They're not getting You're not getting anything. Okay,
look at it, Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Don't blame me. Just the messenger message. They wanted to
know how much are you making.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I'll say this I make I make so little money
and or I have so little money that I got this.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't know if you can see that this business
card on my car. Yeah, you see what it says,
we'd buy used and junk cars.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
And I drove up and down my street to see
if anyone else got one.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Not a single one.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
I got that card on my on my windsheld yesterday,
and I drove up and down the street looking at
other cars. Nobody else got one. And John, this is KFI.
This is the biggest talk station in the country. And
I'm driving around a car where a guy thinks it's
such a piece of crap he's gonna leave his business card.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Saying he buys junk cars on my feel a want
full of junk cars. That's right, Say hey, right, it
must be down and out. Let me buy your car.
Check to see if you were living inside. That's right,
all right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Conways, nig dog Curzi's got the news. Well, I've in
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app Much to do this hour, Chris Adler is going
to come on from CAFI News after three point thirty
because things are bubbling up again at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
She's on that beat.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're going to tell you about the hand to hand
combat classes that anti Israel protesters took before the violence
broke out, and we'll we'll go through their programming that
they actually had a program to ready themselves for combat.
(00:38):
And we also have some other documents here about the
UCLA Palestine Solidarity Group and the things they're asked, the
donations they're asking for. They they're the medical, food, and
other logistical needs that they have. So we're going to
go through that list to give you an idea of
(00:59):
how organized they are and how they want to dig
into the long haul with supplies and obviously they're getting
a lot of supplies from these outside groups.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Let's go now to ABC News.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Corresponded Peter Harlambus, and he has been covering the Trump
trial and the judge of the case, Juan Marchon, has
Warren Trump he might go to jail if what Peter.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, Donald Trump at this point has been indicted
four times over the last year. We never really saw
the possibility of Trump being behind bars before the twenty
twenty four election. That kind of changed yesterday when Judge
Van Marshon issued this ruling about the gag order in
Donald Trump's criminal case here in New York. Rashon find
Donald Trump at the time nine thousand dollars for nine
(01:49):
different violations of the cases limited gag order. But notably
in his ruling, he warned Trump that if you were
to violate the case's gag order again, the former president
could be in parserrated for it. We know that Secret
Service officials here in New York have discussed that possibility.
The logistics of locking up Donald Trump, according sources familiar
with the matter, and the ball is kind of in
(02:10):
Donald Trump's court at the moment to see whether or
not his rhetoric will change or if you will continue
making statements about witnesses or the jurors in the case.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was there any reaction from Trump of the defense team.
Did they say okay, okay, we get it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So we didn't see any clear acknowledgment of the gagwader
Rulin coming down, though, Trump continued to rail against the
judge in the case. Judges, Trump has made an effort
to have the judge accused, arguing that he's conflicted because
of the political work of his daughter. Coincidentally, Trump lost
his appeal on that front related to the recusal yesterday,
So with kind of that double whammy of legal issues,
(02:45):
Trump argued that the judges bias conflicted immediately should be recused,
though there's no indication that Trump has any legal recourse
to get the judge off the case at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, well, it seems like Trump's method here is just
to create as much much of a ruckus as possible,
whether it goes anywhere with the judge or goes anywhere
on appeals is really almost beside the point. He just
wants to make the whole process as difficult as possible
and make everyone involved as uncomfortable as possible.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That sounds about right if you have the prosecutors in
the case. I mean, they said explicitly during hearing last
week that while they aren't asking for incarceration, at the moment,
Trump seems to be angling for it. Trump himself has
compared himself to a modern day now Samandela. When it
comes to this gag order, and notably in terms of
the actual proceedings, Trump's lawyers are refusing to do some
(03:33):
basic tasks during the trial itself. For example, prosecutors usually
sign stipulations with defense attorneys during a trial. Essentially, it
allows the process of the actual proceeding to speed up
because you don't have to call individual witnesses to verify
that evidence is real. Basically, you can sign a document,
or you can haul someone in from Apple, for example,
to say that that iCloud account is indeed belonging to
(03:57):
the person who the search warrant was written towards. But
Trump's lawyers are refusing to do that. It looks like
we're going to have to call in about a dozen
or more additional witnesses, dragging on the case by at
least a few more days. It seems like commotion and
delays are pretty common tactic here.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Normally, both sides agree what is obvious evidence.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just basically yeah, And in this case, yesterday we had
to hear we heard testimony from a court reporter who
verified that, you know, he that a deposition that was
taken in one of Trump's civil cases was legit and
an archivist from c SPAN who confirmed that Donald Trump
was indeed the person in a video from twenty sixteen
at a campaign event in Virginia and North Carolina. So
(04:40):
it seems like this trial is dragging gone in a
lot of different ways, not only with this commotion by
the gag order, but also just the basic steps of
the case at times.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You may not know this, but are is there any
legal chatter going on among the lawyers and analysts about
how far they think the judge Marchon can be pushed
because Trump is obviously Trump calculates people's weaknesses all the
time and tries to look for weak points that he
(05:09):
can exploit in people's personalities. And I'm sure he's been
analyzing Merchon to see how much he can get away with.
Is there any sense of a people who knew Merchon,
other lawyers perhaps on how much Murchon would put up with,
because that's going to be a drastic step if he
puts Trump in jail, because you just don't know what
that's going to unleash.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So legally speaking, there's no limit on pretty much what
Trump can say about Mershon. The gag order doesn't place
any prohibition on statements about Mershon. But I guess in
researching Trump in Mersham, the judge overseeing this case, I
guess it's important to note his background. Mishan, in his
spare time on Wednesdays when court isn't sitting, oversees a
mental health court and a veterans treatment court here in
(05:48):
New York. Basically, these are treatment courts that exist kind
of for alternatives to incarceration, basically, and over the course
of interviewing a bunch of friends and colleagues Rashon, they
kind of suggested to me that Mirshan is in a
way blessed with a ton of patients, given the fact
that he spends you know, countless days out of his
(06:10):
year dealing with defendants in those settings. So we're kind
of volatile, yes, So in the play, it's way possible.
These folks I spoke with suggested that that prepares Michon
for this hearing. Though. You know, it's interesting in court
because you could kind of see when he's about to
erupt at times. For example, Trump and his lawyers showed
(06:32):
up late on multiple occasions. Yesterday, Trump scolded, sorry, Mishan scolded.
Trump's defense attorney after one occasion, and he kind of
restrained himself after the second occasion. But you know, it
seems as though Mirshon is somewhat prepared, at least for
the unique circumstances of this case.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Peter, thanks very much. We'll talk with you again soon.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Peter har Alambus with the ABC News. He's an investigative reporter.
He's on the Trump trial beat. What we come back?
How about the hand to hand combat classes that the
pro Hamas protesters took at UCLA. And we're going to
talk with Chris Adler too after three point thirty about
(07:12):
there's anything bubbling up again? Wait till you hear their programming.
I have their programming sheet here. The protesters they're getting
prepared for well, I guess they weren't to all that
prepared last night because the Jewish guys who came in
and beat them up I think took them by surprise.
But we'll go through their list of supplies that they
(07:33):
are demanding, the donations that they want for their encampment.
And you have the use the president of the UC
system demanding investigation into UCLA over why did they let
this all happen last night all coming up.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty oh.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The Moistline hadn't mentioned in a while.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You might have a lot to say about all these
pro Hamas rioters eight seven seven moist eighty six eight
seven seven moist eighty six and the fools at UCLA administration,
so you can share anything there. You could also use
the talkback feature on the iHeart app for the Moistline
eight seven seven moist eighty six. Also on social media,
(08:18):
you can follow us at John Cobelt Radio and if
you go to our Instagram site, we have really cool
video that Blake Trully took of all the mayhem at
UCLA and lots of people have already discovered it. I
forgot even to mention it, and I'm sorry about that,
but you should go. Blake's got some great video about
(08:39):
the UCLA activity at John Cobelt Radio, and that's that's
good for all the social media sites.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
All right, this is almost comical.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The pro Hamas protesters at UCLA had hand to hand
combat classes inside their encampment just hours before the violence
broke out. Now, to be fair for it, just a
minute they were attacked by Jewish men. One witness says
it seemed not to be students but outsiders who were
(09:12):
just fed up with the Jews being well, not being
allowed to go into their classes in the library and
being blocked. The organizers at the UCLA Palestine's Solidarity Encampment,
that's their official name, they promoted a course entitled Dealing
(09:32):
with Cops Workshop and that was held yesterday evening at
six thirty and there's a video online showing the course.
Protesters gathered in a circle and there's a group in
the middle that teaches them how to take blows from police.
One of the demonstrators showed off the proper form the
(09:53):
students should take in a fight that protects their faces.
And one man shows how this stance helps walck a punch,
and another shows how easily you can knock a person
back after their leg is grabbed.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Along with their training.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Protesters were equipped with hard hats and trash cans that
they could use as riot shields, and so they were
ready when the counter protesters and the police came storming
in later in the evening.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now I have their.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Their programming, that's what they call it. April thirtieth program.
From four thirty to five thirty, someone named Saint Levant
was going to give a speech. Then at five point
thirty there was going to be a reading circle. Again
this is so jimboree, like a reading circle strategy for
the liberation of Palestine. Why don't these stupid bastards go
(10:49):
to Palestine and join Hamas?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What are they doing here? What a bunch of cowards?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
All these pales Didian protesters are our play aft like
little children. It's like when kids used to play cowboys
and Indians. They're playing Jews and terrorists. What are you
doing in Los Angeles? The action is in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Go there.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
None of these people really want to help the cause.
Why don't you go there and at least feed the
local people. Six to eight o'clock is dinnertime. That's a
two hour dinner. What was the last time you had
a two hour dinner? And they're getting the food donated.
This is a good racket, all right. Then six thirty
(11:37):
to seven thirty, I guess this overlaps with dinner time,
dealing with cops, the workshop, and then this one cracked
me up. From seven thirty to eight o'clock COVID testing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I didn't even know they did that anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
First of all, they're all wearing masks and heads go.
Not that it stops COVID to where knows, But yeah,
why are they doing coviding. They're much more in danger
than getting their heads beat in, either by the counter
protesters or the police. Then this is the Kapper. I
am not making any of this up. This is on
(12:12):
their website or on their social media feed. From eight
thirty to nine o'clock after the COVID testing, after the
hand to had combat workshop, eight thirty nine o'clock, therapists
led grieving and processing circle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What are they grieving? I don't know. Maybe dinner. They
wanted a three hour dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Therapists led a grieving and processing and then from ten
pm to six am those are the quiet hours.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Opes.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Why aren't we grieving about all those hostages that are
being held by Hamas.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm sure the grieving about all the Israeli babies who
got murdered and Israeli women they got raped. But yeah,
ten to six last night, which was when the riots
were happening, that was supposed to be the quiet hours.
Now here's the list of needs according to the Palestine
Solidarity Encampment. Please ensure their donations are BDS compliant. I
(13:18):
think that has to do with you can't use companies.
There's a lot of companies being boycotted by this crowd
because they do business with Israel. So if you buy this,
please be aware that you cannot buy these items from
from companies.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That have their standards.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, this is urgent. They need headlamps, airsoft goggles. They
need gas masks and respirators. They need skater helmets, shields,
wood for barriers, knee and elbow pads, rain ponchos, canopies,
utility gloves, super bright flashlights with stroke light, and umbrellas. Uh.
(14:05):
They need EpiPens, non steroid inhalers. Ah, it looks like
some of the terrorist supporters might have allergies. Maybe they're
allergic to bees. They also emphasize headlamps again. And let's see,
Oh the food that they want. They want hot food
for lunch three exclamation points important in capital letters, with
(14:29):
several more exclamation points. Hot food for lunch number two,
And you could expect this vegan food.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Wait a second, don't no, no, no, no, no, it's fanatics.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, I'm a pall it's crazy people. No, of course
there's the vegans. Let's definitely lump them in.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, is going to be part of the program.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, I'm not. Well, you have vegan food, I mean,
stop buying to see what they have run away?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And then they want gluten free food because you know
that's the real danger gluten. No packaged food, no coffee,
no bagels, no bananas, no nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Why no bananas? I can understand nuts, because you know
they're asking for EpiPens.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I guess they're all allergic. They also want sleeping pads, batteries, rope.
That's not a good size, zip ties? What do you
need zip ties for for a peaceful protest? Generators, lotion
aquafor no sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, they're planning on I don't not protesting when it's hot.
I guess, so they'll stay in their tent dur every day.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We're gonna have Chris Adler from CAFI News at UCLA
right now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
See what's going on. That's neck.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Six forty round from one until four and then after
four o'clock Belt Show on demand on the iHeart app
you can hear what you miss Conway coming up at
four o'clock. The La Times has just published within the
last half hour a timeline of what went wrong last
night with the various police agencies and why nobody showed
(16:17):
up and was ready to do battle with either the
protesters supporting the terrorists or the counter protesters supporting Israel
and the Jewish students. We'll get into that coming up,
but first let's look at what's happening now at UCLA
with Chris Adler KFI News.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Chris, Hey, John, So, yeah, I'm at UCLA right now,
right now. I was just outside of Powell Library. That
library was overrun and it's still overtaken by these pro
Palestinian protesters within the camp now CCHP is posted outside.
There are several officers posted outside of that library. Any
(16:57):
protesters that walk out from the camp and go through
the library and exit, they are being blocked from re entering.
They're not let anybody letting anybody go in, so nobody
can go in and anybody who comes out is not
allowed back in. But we watched as as these protesters
tried to bring in supplies food, water, looks like art supplies.
They tried to carry in and Seegp stop them from
(17:19):
getting in the into the library. And as I was
standing out there, John this guy comes up and he's like,
I'm a medic. I need to get in. I need
to get in, and tries to push his way through
Siegp and they stop him and they go they're, they're, they're,
they're telling him no one is allowed in. You're not
going in. There's no entry there, you can't get in.
He goes, I'm a medic. I need to get in.
(17:40):
Those people need me. So as he's he's he's been
turned away. He's walking away and I catch up with him.
I asked him, I said, so you were inside. He goes, yeah,
I was inside before. I was taking care of people.
But we've got injuries from last night's Zionists attacks and
I need to get in and help people, and they're
not letting me in. And then a guy comes running
up behind us, and he runs up to that guy
who says he's a medic. By the way, he's a
(18:01):
non student. He said, he is a non student. Sorry
forgive me, he said, he's a non student. Another person
runs up, another non student. He goes, hey, man, I'm
not a doctor. I'm not a student, but I want
to help you, so let me know what I can do.
And then they walked off and were talking about what
they could do. So you know, there's a large police
presence out here, John that we did not see yesterday.
(18:22):
And when I got on scene this morning, there were
a couple dozen. There are much more now c HP,
LAPD and Beverly Hills Pdjohn.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And how many students or protesters do they think are
inside this library.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, they're walking in and out of the library, so
they don't know how many are inside. But there are
least there are at least at least fifty camps. And
when I talked to a woman who came out, she
says there's about two hundred people inside of the camp.
A woman walked out of the library and she was
wearing a Palestinian shawl and she's she's not a student,
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and she goes, I'm just here helping them clean up
inside the camp. She goes, I'm not a student, and
I the camp. Library, No, the camp. So if you
walk through the camp, if you walk through Powell Library,
you can that exit. You can exit is facing the camp,
so they can they can go into the library and
(19:24):
possibly use the bathrooms in there. Yeah, but if they leave,
if they exit on that on that exit where the
media check in is for that camp, they are not
allowed back in. So a woman walked out and she
said she was she's not a student, she's just in
there helping the students clean up, manage things, keep keep
(19:45):
an eye on things, keep things in order.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So how many camps are on the car There.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Are at least fifty tents that are Yeah, right outside
of Royce Hall, which has been shut down. The they've
closed Royce Hall, they've closed classes today, and you know,
the police are getting closer to this camp. I was
watching and listening to the protesters behind the boards the plywood.
(20:14):
I thought for a moment that they were taking it
down because UCLA has ordered this. They said it's an
unlawful gathering. They need to now disperse, And I was listening.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They weren't.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
They weren't breaking it down, John, They were actually reinforcing it.
And I heard one of the leaders inside of the
camp giving instructions to the protesters to create a multi
layered at least three layers of barricade.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
They were taught.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
They said, we have new rules now, and he was saying,
we've got to we've got to reinforce this barricade. And
you could hear power tools drills drilling on the plywood
to try to rest If.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I understand this right, the fifty tents that comprise this
camp has been declared unlawful by.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The police, by UCLA.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
By UCLA, Okay, so why is it still there? And
why aren't the police dismantling the tents, you know, instead
you're saying they're reinforcing. They're in camp.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
They yeah, the camp is, they're reinforcing. But what I'm
seeing is, you know, the police are gathering. We're seeing
a much bigger police presence than we saw a couple
hours ago. So I don't know if this means that
LAPD and c HP are all getting ready to go
in and dismantle this. What we don't know. We don't know.
They're standing around. Police won't answer, they won't tell us,
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they're just kind of you know, I'm watching as LAPD's
putt up yellow tie.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I guess what I don't understand here at UCLA and
at Columbia is why the police and the administration they
don't take care of this problem.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
In real time.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
As soon as the first two tents pop up, it's like, no, guys,
that's going down, now, get out immediately, Just everybody out.
They let it fester sometimes for weeks, and then it
blows and everybody stands around going what happened? Well, you
can't let them have one tent up. It's like homeless.
You know, you let one tent in your neighborhood, you're
gonna get a hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well. UCLA has gone on record and said that they
were supporting their students' freedom of expression and speech up
until it got violent. But I spoke to several students
today that said the only today they've received or yesterday,
they received their first email from campus letting students know
that the library was going to be closed, that Royce
Hall was going to be closed. This was before they
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decided to close class this morning. But students are outraged.
They don't understand why the university didn't take action before.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, there's no constitutional right to pitch a tent.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Well, this is a public campus, and so the university,
from their perspective, was trying to give the students, you know,
from what they've said, an opportunity to peacefully protest. But
several things have happened, and I've been here for them, John,
where it did get violent and it got scary at times,
but students were saying, well, you know it got scary
three days ago. Where was UCLA at that time? Were
(22:56):
they waiting for someone to get to seriously hurt? And
so after that violence last night, they closed, they closed classes.
But like I said, we're watching police come in here,
I'm seeing more patrol. So we don't really know what's
going on. Have reached out to UCLA to get an answer.
They will not respond. We're just trying to figure out
what's happening. What's the plan If there there's no plan.
(23:18):
You can tell there's no plan from the protesters to
break this up. So when does LAPD go in and
make those arrests? If that's going to happen, because they've
now they've called this, they have deemed it an unlawful
gathering lawfully on.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Campus, they should break it up. Are Chris Adler excellent?
Thank you very much? All right, thanks John for that
report at UCLA. Chris Adler, Caffeine News. We're going to
go through a rundown of the timeline from last night.
The Eelsigunda Times has put together uh has explained how
slow the various police agencies were and how inept the
(23:54):
administrators were in quelling that riot last night.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI A sixty.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
In the last hour, LA Times published a timeline of
what went on, because everybody is wondering, how did he
get so out of hand? Where are the police? Where
were the administrators? And everyone wants to know, including the
uc administrators, the bosses of UCLA. They want to know
how the hell this happened. All right, so I'm going
to go quickly to this. We only have a couple
(24:25):
of minutes, but it says when the counter protesters. Now,
remember you had a group of Israeli supporters swarming in
to UCLA late last night attacking the Palestinian encampment, and
law enforcement sources told The Times there were only a
(24:45):
few UCLA police officers on hand. How stupid is that
for the UCLA administration, the Chancellor Gene block Head. They
tried to stop the violence, but they were completely overmatched
and they had to retreat because they got attacked themselves. Okay,
so the UCLA police campus police are out of the picture.
(25:06):
There was a group of unarmed private security guards. Again
with the unarmed gee were they ambassadors? But the guards
were supposed to protect the buildings, not break up fights
or make arrests, so they weren't of any use. It
would take three hours for CHP officers and LAPD and
(25:26):
other agencies to finally show up and bring it under control,
and everybody's going, what the hell. A spokeshole for Newsom
says the limited and delayed campus law enforcement response at
UCLA last night was unacceptable and demands answers. Wow, even
Newsom's pissed. The UC president now this again. President of
(25:48):
the whole UC system, Michael Drake wrote a letter to
the Board of Regents saying that somebody's got to explain here.
There is sufficient confusion. I'm ordering an independent review of
useulea's planning in action. They didn't plan and there we
wasn't any action. You know, if this guy Drake gets
a response, he's going to get a blank sheet of paper.
(26:09):
UCLA had no plans to do anything. They were in
the tank for the Hamas supporters. It says here at
USC the encampment students were arrested en masked by LAPD
at UCLA, they could protest all day and night and
nobody in law enforcement would bother them, even when on
(26:33):
Sunday when some pro israel protesters showed up and there
were some scuffling, the uniformed response was minimal. Then Tuesday night,
that's when a larger group of Israeli protesters counter protesters
came in, and one professor of Jewish history at UCLA
(26:53):
is David Myers. He says, there needs to be consequences,
there needs to be changes.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's a total system failure.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
We need to look our selves in the eye and say,
how the hell did this happen. Well, it's because the
administrators side with these Palestinian terrorists.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's why. I mean, it's not that complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Their sympathies lie with the Palestinian protesters who are supporting
the terrorists.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's the beginning and end of this.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
The violence began around ten thirty when the counter protesters arrived.
People inside the encampment, the Palestinians began asking for help.
Notice I'm not describing anybody as being an American. I
don't know where. I don't even those people are citizens.
I don't know where they came from. I don't know
if they're here in student visas. I don't know if
they came here illegally. I don't know what their allegiance is,
(27:38):
although I have a feeling it's not to the US.
The counter protesters they had their own masks, black and white,
and they tried to break down the barricades, and they
started shooting fireworks at the Palestinians and kicking down the
wooden boards around the camp.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
See, you set up an encampment and you.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Reinforce it with wooden boards and gates, you're just asking
for the enemy to come in and tear it down again.
UCLA created this problem because they're stupid. John Thomas is
the chief of the Ucla Police Department. He didn't respond
to a comment with The Times, but he told the
Daily Bruin paper that his officers came under attack and
(28:16):
he only had five or six, some say only four.
LA Times courts a deputy sheriff in Modoc County who's
an advisor, that this is essentially a private matter. It's
UCLA's campus. It's the school's decision to call a LAPD,
even though UCLA is on state land. It's also an independent.
(28:39):
It's like its own independent entity, its own town. So
outside police forces do not enter the campus without approval.
I didn't know that UCLA is treated as if it's
Beverly Hills. And it took till three in the morning
till the police operation was fully complete. Law enforce and
(29:00):
didn't even start showing up till after one thirty. And
it took an hour and a half to get up
to speed. And now Geene Block, the chancellor said that
the incident is a dark chapter in our A dark
chapter in our campus is history. Well, what were you
doing all evening? What were you doing? Yes, Conway's here,
(29:20):
you know, it's a darker chapter in UCLA's history. Their
football team. All right, the earth quake today, do you
feel it? You know, Debora and I were in here
talking and we didn't notice it. Really, Yeah, everybody else did.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well, this building is on rollers and and so you're
not going to feel anything in this building. You're going
to watch Burbank get wiped out while you're sitting in
this building. We roll up and back like on skates,
and this building will end up in Silmar. But you'll
be fine. Right, We have ted Ziggenbush coming on today
talked about the Kentucky Derby. You gotta get a hit,
we gotta. I need the release for Saturday. I need
(29:56):
the hit, I need the winner. And then remember last
night the Dodgers had a two hour delay because of
the bees. Yes, we got the guy on coming on
today that took that bee hive down. He did it
quickly to unbelievable. Yeah, guy walks in there in front
of forty thousand or four thousand people in Arizona. What
did he vacuum him? I think he vacuumed him? And
he doesn't there's a new age way to do it.
(30:18):
You convince him to fly elsewhere. It's not weird. Could
he work that magic on the protesters?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And then we've been talking about this in the hallway
and I've been voted to ask you, and we didn't
want to do it off the air because we're all uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But how much do you make a year here? How
much do I make a year? Yeah, we're all wondering.
Who's wondering?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
The guys.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, they don't care. The guys, they're not going to
get any of it.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
I told you, Fellas Bellio's wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Doesn't matter. They're not getting You're not getting anything. Okay,
look at it, Christmas.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Don't blame me. Just the messenger message. They wanted to
know how much are you making.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I'll say this I make I make so little money
and or I have so little money that I got this.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't know if you can see that this business
card on my car. Yeah, you see what it says,
we'd buy used and junk cars.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
And I drove up and down my street to see
if anyone else got one.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Not a single one.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
I got that card on my on my windsheld yesterday,
and I drove up and down the street looking at
other cars. Nobody else got one. And John, this is KFI.
This is the biggest talk station in the country. And
I'm driving around a car where a guy thinks it's
such a piece of crap he's gonna leave his business card.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Saying he buys junk cars on my feel a want
full of junk cars. That's right, Say hey, right, it
must be down and out. Let me buy your car.
Check to see if you were living inside. That's right,
all right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
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