May 1, 2024 • 30 mins
KFI's Blake Troli talks about Protesters Clashing at UCLA. NewsNations' Rich McHugh talks about the Anti-Israel Protests at Columbia University.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
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all the excitement last night. I jeez, sorry, guy had
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a covered. I wouldn't want to be near you if
we get fired on it's going to take you away
too long. Uh So last night I sleep really deeply.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You're so lucky.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I have no trouble sleeping. And I went fell asleep
like around quarter to ten, and maybe I'll get up
once a night to.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Go to the bathroom. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And I faintly heard the boom, boom boom the helicopters,
and my wife says, oh, they're they're having a big
riot at UCLA, and I just mumbled something back to
back to bed.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I didn't want to be lurded to turn on on
the TV and watching it because then I'd get caught
up and I wouldn't sleep for two hours. So it's like,
you know what, I'd whatever the carnage is going to be.
It's still going to be there the next morning. Blake
trolley is reporting now from UCLA to see the warning
the afternoon. After all the excitement last night, I see
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what's going on there, Blake, how are you?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I'm good, John, those commercials for it or since in
the history of.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Time start over again because you got blacked out there.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I said, the commercials for itt Tech have never made
more sense in history.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I can see that. I mean, I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I cannot believe the students have to put up with this,
and I can't believe how there's nobody willing to clear
everything out for the sake of people going to class
or exams or whatever they're doing at UCLA this week.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm just absolutely flabbergasted by that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So, just to recap John, last night, things did get
pretty heated here when counter protesters stormed the pro Palestinian
encampment trying to remove the barriers. That sparked fights breaking out.
Fireworks were actually launched into the Pro Palestinian camp again,
this is from counter protesters, and fights broke out. People
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were spraying bear spray at each other. I rolled up
to campus this morning around three point thirty and things
were still pretty heated. I saw a couple really heated
arguments that I thought may actually turn violent. People were
still chanting. And mind you, this is three point thirty
in the morning. I would only imagine this started way
earlier the next day. Are they by all those fights?
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There was still a lot of energy on campus.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Are they all jacked up on meth or cocaine?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I mean, how did they keep the energy going to
three thirty in the morning and they're willing to fight
over something that they have no control over.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well, one thing I do want to point out, John,
is that applies are pouring into the camp.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I sent some video over to your team. You could
check that out.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
A couple of things that are happening right now as
things are a lot quieter, and keep in mind, things
may be way quieter tonight. As law enforcement has built
a I don't know, two hundred foot maybe three hundred
foot maybe hundred yard barrier between the pro Palestinian encampment
and the rest of campus. That said, you know what
we're seeing right now in that Pro Palestinian encampment is
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that they are reinforcing that barrier. So there's a metal
kind of fence. You see it at events, you know
those little metal fences you wait in line with.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeah, they're reinforcing the.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Bottom of that with palettes, and then they're putting higher up.
They're putting that same plywood board that you've been seeing up,
So they are reinforcing them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The police are the Palestinian protesters.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
The pro Palestinian protesters are putting all those materials up
and then around the backside. And I just tweeted some
video of this. Supplies are pouring in. I saw plywood.
It looks like some sort of groceries they're pouring in.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Why is the administration allowing this?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Why don't they kick off all the protesters and dismantle
all the barriers and stop anything from coming on campus.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, So the administration came out yesterday and they said
that this camp is unlawful and that students participating in
it will be punished, and that people who are not
students could be criminally charged. That said, all we've seen
so far is police getting involved in with the means
of separating protesters.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Now, John, I do want to go to this.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
You know, protesters for a while have not been the
most media friendly. I'm sure you've played some of the clips,
We've seen some of the clips of media trying to
speak with protesters. Well, today they are being a little
bit more chatty. And I had this conversation with a
twenty year old protester who was willing to talk to media,
and the first or one of the first things I
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wanted to know was, what will your response be if
law enforcement comes in here and uh and tries to
dismantle this camp it has been deemed unlawful. Take a listen,
would you guy? What will this scenario be though? If
law enforcement comes in and does try to clear the encampment?
What kind of response are Do you have one planned
or do you guys have a plan if that happens?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Mmm? I think like it's important to it's it's more
important to think about why the university is calling law
enforcement on us, Like why why number one did they
not for so long? Like like when they meant the
law enforcement didn't do anything to protect.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Us at all.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If you look at the videos, the cops stood in
a line and watched, the campus security left, the private
security stood and watched and laughed and looked at us, right,
and so yeah, that's uh, we don't see them as
as protectors. We don't see them as here to to
take care of us. We don't see them as here
to stop the violence at all. We're gonna protect ourselves.
We're gonna protect each other. That's all I can say
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to that, really, But I mean, we're saying until divestment, divestment, divestment.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Divestment, that is our goal.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That is what we're here for.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We're here for Palestine, We're here for Gazza, and so
you know, we're going to be brave.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We're going to stay here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
If the university tries to kick us out, Ask the
university why they're trying to kick us out. Ask the
university why they're trying to stifle student protests, why they're
refusing to meet us at the bargaining table, why they're
refusing to protect us. Right, that's who the aggressor is here.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
You have like a list of businesses that you would
like them to divest from. Is there like a specific
set list of businesses?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Of course, yeah, this is this is you know, the boycott,
divest sanctions list is extremely public like and like people
know who these companies are divesting from. Warren Weapons Manufacturing
companies we're divesting from, you know, universities in Israel, things
like that. The lists have been since to the administration.
They've known what our demands were since before this encampment
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was up. We've been fighting this fight all year, like
they have known, like a BDS resolution was passing twenty
fourteen at UCLA. They know, they know what our demands are.
They know who we are trying.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
To get them to boycott and our demands.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's no secret. And now it's time for them to
meet us there and to do it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Thursday, there seem to be black clad people, young men
rather large. One of them identified and himself to me
as IDF. Have you have you heard anything like that?
I mean, it seems like there's actual people connected to
Israeli armed forces here.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, there's there's there's ex iOS soldiers who are in
who are parts of the people who are who have
been harassing us and threatening us and attacking us for days.
They proudly wear IDF jackets IOF jackets around campus. They
proudly you know, claim themselves to be you know, part
of this the militants ions entity. And one of our
demands right is an end to policing. That is because
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the university partners with entities like lapd UCPD Dana that
train with the IOF. So they like these again, these
individual people who are coming here to harass and attack us.
They are a problem. But the bigger problem is that
universities partner with with Israel. Universities partner with the the
mass croseral system. Right, that's here too, and it's people.
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And so where we end policing here, we want to
end policing there. We want to end the genocide there.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
At the same time, you would rather that police maybe
step in at.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Some point last night.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I wouldn't necessarily say that, No, I don't think cops
are the entities that are going to protect us, right,
but it is telling. It is telling of the university's
priorities and of their their concerns about our safety. They
would have let us die, They would have watched us die.
We were there for seven hours, like they would have
just like waited for some terrible, terrible thing to retout
any intervention. They didn't even call the police until three
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hours in. And it's not that we're asking for police
presence because you see what they're doing in intensity. We
don't want more cops on campus, like our demands are
cops off campus. However, when you see like the fact
that the university didn't use any of these measures, they
didn't send us ambulances either, right, they didn't send US police,
but they also didn't send us ambulances. They didn't send
US medics, they didn't send us water, they didn't send
us de escalators. They didn't tell the non students to
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get off our campus and to stop harassing us.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
So there you have a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
And what's interesting is that it starts with a complaint
that the police were standing back, but then there's also
this notion that we don't even want them on campus.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So that was one of the funniest recordings I've heard.
Can you do you send that to the guys over here.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, there's there's a lot more of that job that.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
What you got there is fine. I want to hold
on to that. Uh, do you have anything else? Because
I got more?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
You know what I got more? We can we should
do another segment.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, then we will. Uh right, we've got more from
Blake Trolley U c l A.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
More Blake trolley at u C l A.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Last night the Palestinian protesters uh got invaded by some
pro Israeli protesters and the fighting went on for several
hours before the police bothered to break things up and Blake,
what else do you have there?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
So, John, just a few minutes ago, we were airing
some of that interview with a protester. And as you'll remember,
protesters have not been friendly so far since they set
up this encampment last week.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
This was set up last Thursday.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Some reporters have tried to get on the encampment, they
have not been granted access. Today we were not granted access.
But one thing that we did see was protesters come
to the line to speak with media, and I happened
to be there, so I was able to speak with
one of the one of the protesters there. So we'll
kick things off with her, and then we'll go into
another student I spoke with who he's neutral in this.
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I mean, he's not a pro Israeli supporter, he's not
a pro Palestinian supporter. He's just a student who's fed
up with seeing all of it on campus.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
But we'll start here.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
This is the same protester that you heard from telling
us really an array of different things. At the last break,
I had asked her here we'll kick things off where
I ask her what she makes of the university's response
to the camp. What is your response to the school
calling this encampment unlawful and ordering essentially asking everybody to
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leave and saying that students will be punished.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
What is your reaction to that?
Speaker 9 (11:07):
M It's.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's infuriating, right, it's really infuriating. We have our if
you step foot in our encampment, like the spirit there
is deeply nonviolent, Like it is like we just have
we have food tents, we have medic tents, we have
we have a library. We're reading books to each other,
We're teaching each other about things. We're learning how to
do Palestinian traditional dances. We're like we're writing talk on
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the ground like like this is a this is a
community that is meant to to you know, dancing talk
up the university environment. But we are not here to
harm others at all. We are not here to harm people.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
And you know, we just support and I've just seen
the claims, uh that there are claims that you guys
have kept students from getting to their classes.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
What do you make to those claims?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
They're inaccurate, they're false, right, Like the encampment like has
taken up a enough space that we have to block
certain walkways. But they're like walkways to class.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We are not saying you are not allowed to go
to class. We're saying you have to you have to
take a couple more.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Feet to go around, and we have to do that
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like there are a few entrances and exits that we
can enter from, and then we cannot even get to
class at the usual routes, Like we have to block
so different claims that this is like, you know, we're
specifically targeting certain students not letting them go to class.
What we're not letting them do is enter the encampment
when they're here to harass us.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
She's for real, Huh, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
That was a very long interview. That was about an
eleven minute interview.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
My god, how did you take that?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You know, one of the one of the other reporters,
John took a little dig at at KFI that was
against the rail. He looked at me and said, well,
you know, right wing media's here. I can't wait to
see the narrative that comes up, comes out of this,
comes out of this guy essentially, which.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Everybody I didn't even.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I didn't even you know, no, I didn't even have
a chance to respond. I want to go to this
student here. I tried to talk to a few students
this morning, and I mean, they're college kids, right, they
see the guy, the media guy you're laying so most
of them walked past. But I did talk to this
to this student, and he told me he's frustrated with
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all of it, pro Palestinian supporters, pro Israeli supporters.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
He says, he doesn't care, he's he's over all of it.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
It's a total disruption. It's not fair to the students.
It's it's definitely not fair to Yeah, it's not fair
to student, it's not fair to administration. It's not fair
to anybody. You know, this is going to affect more
people than they anybody who's involved in here is ever
going to realize and their their pride and their hubris
really contributed to this, and it's terrible.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
What do you think the school should do about this?
Speaker 10 (13:44):
I think anybody who is involved in organizing the protest
should be expelled. I think anybody who was involved in
the violence yesterday, whether or not they were a student,
should If they were a student, I think they should
be expelled. If not, I think, uh, you know, they
should be arrested. Anybody who was involved in the violence
on either side.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Now, John, this guy, the most shocking thing he told me,
and it really stuck out to me, is that he
is super surprised by who is actually staying in this
pro Palestinian encampment here on campus. He says he knows
some of these people inside, and these are people he
never thought would have been inside this camp. And you
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really wonder, because we hear that blowback, where are the parents?
Where are the parents? I would assume based on what
he told me saying that he's surprised by some of
the people that he knows that are inside of here.
If a lot of parents just don't think it's their
little Johnny inside.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, well, the of there's a lot of covert operations
going on at all these protests at these universities. Thank
you very much, Blake, it was highly entertaining. And send
that first clip over to our guys. Okay, I want
to all right, Yeah, I'll send it for later entertainment
when we come back. We're going to talk with had
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him on yesterday from News Nation, which is the new
cable news channel you ought to be watching. Rick McHugh.
He has been at Columbia University this week. He gave
us a great report yesterday. We're going to talk to
him again in moments.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
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M six forty.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The whole thing is becoming a farce now, especially at UCLA.
We'll talk more coming up about Blake Trolley's reports and
that looney bit of a woman who was trying to
explain all the demands they have. And apparently these pro
Haamas protesters think they own the public land at UCLA,
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that it's their land. And shockingly, maybe not shockingly, Eugene
what's his name, Eugene Block, is that the chancellor.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Do they have a chancellor anymore UCLA? Do they have
a guy?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Because he's letting them just see he's the land and
create all kinds.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Of all kinds of a ruckus.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And then you know, here comes some Israeli guys to
teach the Palestinians a lesson Gene Gene right, jeene block,
and so you had a big fistfight that goes on
for two or three hours. LAPD doesn't stop it. I
guess UCLA didn't give him the go ahead on that.
But at UCLA's public land, it's not a private university
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like Columbia. I don't understand any of this. I don't Well,
we'll talk more about it coming up, and now let's
go to Rich McHugh.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He's waiting.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He's been at Columbia University this week and you probably
saw the police in New York arrested almost three hundred
people and cleared about three dozen out of Hamilton Hall,
the administrative building the crazies had barricaded themselves inside.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Rich, First, what's going on right now.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
It's a lot quieter than it was last night's that's
for sure, starting to resume get back to normal. Security
around campus is still heightened. Students only students really are
being allowed back in the campus. The main gates on
the West and East are still not open to the
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public they usually are. I expected that it's going to
remain that way for the foreseeable future because the students
I'm talking to think that this encampment will just go
right back up in the coming days. Despite the arrests overnight.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I had heard that Columbia officials had requested NYPD presidents
at least through May seventeenth, which is two days after graduation.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Is that true? Have you heard anything like that?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
I have not heard that. That wouldn't surprise me. I know, graduation,
they're trying to graduate, you know, fifteen different thousand students
between all their various schools and undergrad and graduate, So
that wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me if security
at the gate remains just extremely tight. The students that
were part of this that were arrested obviously probably expelled
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at this point, so their ideas won't be working. So
they've somewhat neutralized this problem for the foreseeable future. I
would say, But what happens outside the walls of Columbia,
like I'm Amsterdam and Broadway, is anybody's guests, and seeing
how this is spreading even within New York City. Now
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it's spread to Fordham, Cuny, the City College of New
York last night, and Fortam today. It looks like this
is just ramping up here and across the country.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I mean talk about eighteen hours before the police showed
up to remove the protesters that were barricaded in the
administrative building. And I had read that Columbia officials Border
trustees were meeting all night into the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What took them so long to do? What is obvious?
Did you?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Well? They had essentially painted themselves into a corner. So
like two weeks ago they authorized police to come in
and arrest everybody. They did. They came in and arrested
I think it was one hundred and eight student protesters
on the encampment. There was outcry from faculty and the
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Columbia Senate, I believe, and students. So the President of Columbia, Minusiafique,
weighing all that, came out with a statement last week says, look,
we regret the decision. We will not be doing that again.
And so when I think when the protesters heard this,
they're like, well, look, we have carte blanche to kind
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of do whatever we want. And just so happens that
fifty six years ago to the day, student protesters took
over Hamilton Hall on Columbia's campus protesting the Vietnam War.
At that time, NYPD was and they made seven hundred arrests.
It's not coincidence that this is fifty six years ago
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to the day that student protesters and protesters, I should say,
not just students protesters, because the NLPD made a big
point this morning to say there are professional agitators in
the group. But this is not coincidence that this has
happened to the day fifty six years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right, So Columbia says, jeez, we shouldn't have done that,
We shouldn't have had those protesters arrested. And they're shocked
that the protesters came back and barricaded themselves inside the building.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's just it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And I'm I saw some photos in video when that
crowd showed up, and they showed up, and they had furniture,
and they had gates, and they had all kinds of tools,
and the photographer took photos them all along the way.
It must have taken a little while to bring all
this stuff inside, to create the barricades and to bust
their way in, and nobody from the university tried to
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stop them, no security personnel, no NYPD, everybody just let
them spend an extended amount of time to bust into
this place and then barricade the offices.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
That's correct. There were a few campus security officials there
I think at the time, but they were quickly overrun
because what we heard today was that, look, they arrested
one hundred and nine different people at Columbia overnight. So
one hundred and nine people. You need what the NYPD
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brought in for that to even stop that. It was
just they'd take it over the building. They were draping
the flags of Palestine from the sides, a sign that
says Intifada. There was a protester on the roof, you know,
kind of waving the flag of Palestine. Mayor this morning,
Mayor of New York City says, this is a disgrace
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that we're allowing our institutions to be you know, have
these flags of other countries draped over them, like take down,
they're taking down our flag? Like where where is the
outcry over this? The mayor was feisty this morning. It
was it was quite something.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, yeah, it's terrible, and and so what what what
happens to the administration today? I mean, do these all
these administrators they show up for work like nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I mean, this is a clown show.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
It's uh, your guess is as good as mine. Honestly,
I think the president is probably on something nice because
everybody is being critical of the line she has kind
of walked here. I would assume that the board is
facing immense pressure from alumni who actually have their head
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screwed down donors. You know, there's graduations coming up, a
lot of a lot of eyeballs that are going to
continue to be on on on the president and the
board here and how they navigate this going forward. But
it's you know, the cats out, you know, the damage
is done, yeah, for Columbia, And I would assume that
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there's going to be you know, a lot of the
faculty were linking arms kind of protecting these protesters in
the encampment from being accessed by the administration. So I
think there's going to be a long, hard look at
everybody's role in what they're involvement was in these past
two weeks there.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Rich McHugh from News Nation, the new cable news channel,
Thanks very much, great reporting at university. We'll so much
to react to Deborah. I got to digest the last
forty minutes.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We had extensive reporting from Blake Turley and CAMFI News
on UCLA, and then we just finished talking with with
Rich mceube from News Nation about Columbia, and it's pretty
similar situations we had. You know what, I guess there's
something going on that none of us really knew about.
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But the h the administrations at these universities have ruined
their brands, first of all, and they've completely abdicated Hey, John,
any responsibility.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
I'm just going to break in for a second though.
Just people are texting me there was an earthquake. I
guess we were, you know, too busy apping away. We
didn't feel it, but a preliminary magnitude of four point three,
six miles from Corona.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
My husband just texted me he felt it.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I definitely felt it. What time was it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Everybody? Apparently you and I are the only ones that
haven't felt it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Away?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Just now it happened? Yeah, yeah, it kind of felt
like a little rolling sensation.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
I thought it was honestly like the elevator, because sometimes
the elevator, the freight one that we're right next to,
sometimes that'll shake the floor a little bit, so I
thought it was that, but I guess it really was
an earthquake.
Speaker 11 (25:01):
It was an earthquake four point three preliminary magnitude one
nine pm. And I'm so happy to say, I'm really
happy to say I didn't feel you didn't.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You distracted me, and that was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I think every time you walk in, I get a
rolling sensation. So it seemed normal. All right, well, happy earthquake.
Everybody survived another one we did. Maybe it's maybe it's
a foreshow.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I was hoping you weren't going to say that. Let's hope.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I like to look on the dark side.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So I'm going back to Columbia and and UCLA. I mean,
last night they let some Israeli guys and supposedly older
guys come in and just beat the poop out of
the Palestinian protesters. This happened, you know, between around midnight
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and three in the morning, and nobody wanted the police
to intervene. So I'm thinking, all right, that so the
administrators know this is happening, They know the palacest Indian
protesters that they bent themselves into pretzels trying to protect
are now getting revenge. They're getting attacked by these Jewish men.
(26:12):
I don't know if they're students. I don't know who
these people are. Eric Adams, the New York mayor, says
definitely they an NYPD. They had a press conference yesterday,
so definitely there's outside agitators. That's what we talked about yesterday.
We've gotten infiltrated, we really have. And it's impossible to
tell if these are Antifa like groups that planned to
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turn all the universities upside down the same week, knowing
it was a sensitive time, it's exam time, graduation time,
and that it would achieve maximum impact and discomfort. So
there's some students. I wonder how many of them are
foreign students on foreign visas. I wonder how many of
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them are here on a mission till filtrate and destabilize.
Because there's something not right about all this. This doesn't
seem all that organic, and the intensity of this, and
how they can scream and rant and rave all night
long and inside don't they all know they're going to
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have no effect?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Benjamin not Yahoo said yesterday that whether they do a
cease fire or not, you know whether hostages come out
or not. They're going to invade Rafa and they're going
to finish and annihilate the rest of Hamas. And he said,
nothing is going to stop that. And he didn't have
(27:43):
to say this, but I'll finish it, certainly, not these
penny anti lunatics who are screaming like Jimboree toddlers.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There's another thing that woman said.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's like, well, we're dancing, we're singing songs where we're
using chalk, and her whole program sounded exactly like like
what my kids got when they were two and three
years old and they went to preschool or these little
toddler programs. I mean, these are these are men and
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women and a lot of women in their late teens
and early twenties who talked the way little children do,
except they're supporting the most vicious, deadly, murderous terrorist group
running right now. And then if a reporter pushes them
on it, they say, oh, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Now they know what happened, So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There's there's there's something going on, and and I mean
the mayor in New York is saying that there was
the uh, the wife of one of the participants is
a well known terrorist. I got to get deeper into
that story coming up in the two o'clock hour as well.
So there's definitely evidence of these organized terroristic factions. And
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I would call it some Palestinian version of Antifa, or
maybe real Antifa is involved. Maybe everyone's gonna glomb on.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't think this is just, and the administration is
I can't. They really don't think any of this is wrong.
It really doesn't bother them. The criticism bothers them, But
the actual the acts of people rioting and fighting and
you know, blocking Jewish kids from going to class in
the library, none of that bothers them. They're not willing
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to get enraged and stay up all night screaming about it.
They could stop it. All this stuff could be stopped
in a minute. They're choosing not to stop this. Think
about why that would be When we come back this
is actually related. We're gonna have Art Arthur on from them.
The Center for Immigration Studies. It turns out hundreds of
thousands of illegal aliens have been flown to US cities
(30:01):
by the Biden administration. No it's not Greg Abbott, No,
it's not Ron Desantez. It's Joe Biden. They have the
records hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants flown to forty
five US cities, and now Joe Biden wants to fly
in Palestinians who have relatives here. Well, that's going to go. Well,
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it's all coming up. Hey, you've been listening to The
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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all the excitement last night. I jeez, sorry, guy had
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a covered. I wouldn't want to be near you if
we get fired on it's going to take you away
too long. Uh So last night I sleep really deeply.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You're so lucky.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I have no trouble sleeping. And I went fell asleep
like around quarter to ten, and maybe I'll get up
once a night to.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Go to the bathroom. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And I faintly heard the boom, boom boom the helicopters,
and my wife says, oh, they're they're having a big
riot at UCLA, and I just mumbled something back to
back to bed.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I didn't want to be lurded to turn on on
the TV and watching it because then I'd get caught
up and I wouldn't sleep for two hours. So it's like,
you know what, I'd whatever the carnage is going to be.
It's still going to be there the next morning. Blake
trolley is reporting now from UCLA to see the warning
the afternoon. After all the excitement last night, I see
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what's going on there, Blake, how are you?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I'm good, John, those commercials for it or since in
the history of.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Time start over again because you got blacked out there.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I said, the commercials for itt Tech have never made
more sense in history.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I can see that. I mean, I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I cannot believe the students have to put up with this,
and I can't believe how there's nobody willing to clear
everything out for the sake of people going to class
or exams or whatever they're doing at UCLA this week.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm just absolutely flabbergasted by that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So, just to recap John, last night, things did get
pretty heated here when counter protesters stormed the pro Palestinian
encampment trying to remove the barriers. That sparked fights breaking out.
Fireworks were actually launched into the Pro Palestinian camp again,
this is from counter protesters, and fights broke out. People
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were spraying bear spray at each other. I rolled up
to campus this morning around three point thirty and things
were still pretty heated. I saw a couple really heated
arguments that I thought may actually turn violent. People were
still chanting. And mind you, this is three point thirty
in the morning. I would only imagine this started way
earlier the next day. Are they by all those fights?
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There was still a lot of energy on campus.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Are they all jacked up on meth or cocaine?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I mean, how did they keep the energy going to
three thirty in the morning and they're willing to fight
over something that they have no control over.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well, one thing I do want to point out, John,
is that applies are pouring into the camp.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I sent some video over to your team. You could
check that out.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
A couple of things that are happening right now as
things are a lot quieter, and keep in mind, things
may be way quieter tonight. As law enforcement has built
a I don't know, two hundred foot maybe three hundred
foot maybe hundred yard barrier between the pro Palestinian encampment
and the rest of campus. That said, you know what
we're seeing right now in that Pro Palestinian encampment is
(03:27):
that they are reinforcing that barrier. So there's a metal
kind of fence. You see it at events, you know
those little metal fences you wait in line with.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeah, they're reinforcing the.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Bottom of that with palettes, and then they're putting higher up.
They're putting that same plywood board that you've been seeing up,
So they are reinforcing them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The police are the Palestinian protesters.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
The pro Palestinian protesters are putting all those materials up
and then around the backside. And I just tweeted some
video of this. Supplies are pouring in. I saw plywood.
It looks like some sort of groceries they're pouring in.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Why is the administration allowing this?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Why don't they kick off all the protesters and dismantle
all the barriers and stop anything from coming on campus.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, So the administration came out yesterday and they said
that this camp is unlawful and that students participating in
it will be punished, and that people who are not
students could be criminally charged. That said, all we've seen
so far is police getting involved in with the means
of separating protesters.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Now, John, I do want to go to this.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
You know, protesters for a while have not been the
most media friendly. I'm sure you've played some of the clips,
We've seen some of the clips of media trying to
speak with protesters. Well, today they are being a little
bit more chatty. And I had this conversation with a
twenty year old protester who was willing to talk to media,
and the first or one of the first things I
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wanted to know was, what will your response be if
law enforcement comes in here and uh and tries to
dismantle this camp it has been deemed unlawful. Take a listen,
would you guy? What will this scenario be though? If
law enforcement comes in and does try to clear the encampment?
What kind of response are Do you have one planned
or do you guys have a plan if that happens?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Mmm? I think like it's important to it's it's more
important to think about why the university is calling law
enforcement on us, Like why why number one did they
not for so long? Like like when they meant the
law enforcement didn't do anything to protect.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Us at all.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If you look at the videos, the cops stood in
a line and watched, the campus security left, the private
security stood and watched and laughed and looked at us, right,
and so yeah, that's uh, we don't see them as
as protectors. We don't see them as here to to
take care of us. We don't see them as here
to stop the violence at all. We're gonna protect ourselves.
We're gonna protect each other. That's all I can say
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to that, really, But I mean, we're saying until divestment, divestment, divestment.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Divestment, that is our goal.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That is what we're here for.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We're here for Palestine, We're here for Gazza, and so
you know, we're going to be brave.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We're going to stay here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
If the university tries to kick us out, Ask the
university why they're trying to kick us out. Ask the
university why they're trying to stifle student protests, why they're
refusing to meet us at the bargaining table, why they're
refusing to protect us. Right, that's who the aggressor is here.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
You have like a list of businesses that you would
like them to divest from. Is there like a specific
set list of businesses?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Of course, yeah, this is this is you know, the boycott,
divest sanctions list is extremely public like and like people
know who these companies are divesting from. Warren Weapons Manufacturing
companies we're divesting from, you know, universities in Israel, things
like that. The lists have been since to the administration.
They've known what our demands were since before this encampment
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was up. We've been fighting this fight all year, like
they have known, like a BDS resolution was passing twenty
fourteen at UCLA. They know, they know what our demands are.
They know who we are trying.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
To get them to boycott and our demands.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's no secret. And now it's time for them to
meet us there and to do it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Thursday, there seem to be black clad people, young men
rather large. One of them identified and himself to me
as IDF. Have you have you heard anything like that?
I mean, it seems like there's actual people connected to
Israeli armed forces here.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, there's there's there's ex iOS soldiers who are in
who are parts of the people who are who have
been harassing us and threatening us and attacking us for days.
They proudly wear IDF jackets IOF jackets around campus. They
proudly you know, claim themselves to be you know, part
of this the militants ions entity. And one of our
demands right is an end to policing. That is because
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the university partners with entities like lapd UCPD Dana that
train with the IOF. So they like these again, these
individual people who are coming here to harass and attack us.
They are a problem. But the bigger problem is that
universities partner with with Israel. Universities partner with the the
mass croseral system. Right, that's here too, and it's people.
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And so where we end policing here, we want to
end policing there. We want to end the genocide there.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
At the same time, you would rather that police maybe
step in at.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Some point last night.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I wouldn't necessarily say that, No, I don't think cops
are the entities that are going to protect us, right,
but it is telling. It is telling of the university's
priorities and of their their concerns about our safety. They
would have let us die, They would have watched us die.
We were there for seven hours, like they would have
just like waited for some terrible, terrible thing to retout
any intervention. They didn't even call the police until three
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hours in. And it's not that we're asking for police
presence because you see what they're doing in intensity. We
don't want more cops on campus, like our demands are
cops off campus. However, when you see like the fact
that the university didn't use any of these measures, they
didn't send us ambulances either, right, they didn't send US police,
but they also didn't send us ambulances. They didn't send
US medics, they didn't send us water, they didn't send
us de escalators. They didn't tell the non students to
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get off our campus and to stop harassing us.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
So there you have a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
And what's interesting is that it starts with a complaint
that the police were standing back, but then there's also
this notion that we don't even want them on campus.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So that was one of the funniest recordings I've heard.
Can you do you send that to the guys over here.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, there's there's a lot more of that job that.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
What you got there is fine. I want to hold
on to that. Uh, do you have anything else? Because
I got more?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
You know what I got more? We can we should
do another segment.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, then we will. Uh right, we've got more from
Blake Trolley U c l A.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
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Speaker 2 (09:40):
More Blake trolley at u C l A.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Last night the Palestinian protesters uh got invaded by some
pro Israeli protesters and the fighting went on for several
hours before the police bothered to break things up and Blake,
what else do you have there?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
So, John, just a few minutes ago, we were airing
some of that interview with a protester. And as you'll remember,
protesters have not been friendly so far since they set
up this encampment last week.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
This was set up last Thursday.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Some reporters have tried to get on the encampment, they
have not been granted access. Today we were not granted access.
But one thing that we did see was protesters come
to the line to speak with media, and I happened
to be there, so I was able to speak with
one of the one of the protesters there. So we'll
kick things off with her, and then we'll go into
another student I spoke with who he's neutral in this.
(10:33):
I mean, he's not a pro Israeli supporter, he's not
a pro Palestinian supporter. He's just a student who's fed
up with seeing all of it on campus.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
But we'll start here.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
This is the same protester that you heard from telling
us really an array of different things. At the last break,
I had asked her here we'll kick things off where
I ask her what she makes of the university's response
to the camp. What is your response to the school
calling this encampment unlawful and ordering essentially asking everybody to
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leave and saying that students will be punished.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
What is your reaction to that?
Speaker 9 (11:07):
M It's.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's infuriating, right, it's really infuriating. We have our if
you step foot in our encampment, like the spirit there
is deeply nonviolent, Like it is like we just have
we have food tents, we have medic tents, we have
we have a library. We're reading books to each other,
We're teaching each other about things. We're learning how to
do Palestinian traditional dances. We're like we're writing talk on
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the ground like like this is a this is a
community that is meant to to you know, dancing talk
up the university environment. But we are not here to
harm others at all. We are not here to harm people.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
And you know, we just support and I've just seen
the claims, uh that there are claims that you guys
have kept students from getting to their classes.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
What do you make to those claims?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
They're inaccurate, they're false, right, Like the encampment like has
taken up a enough space that we have to block
certain walkways. But they're like walkways to class.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We are not saying you are not allowed to go
to class. We're saying you have to you have to
take a couple more.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Feet to go around, and we have to do that
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like there are a few entrances and exits that we
can enter from, and then we cannot even get to
class at the usual routes, Like we have to block
so different claims that this is like, you know, we're
specifically targeting certain students not letting them go to class.
What we're not letting them do is enter the encampment
when they're here to harass us.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
She's for real, Huh, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
That was a very long interview. That was about an
eleven minute interview.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
My god, how did you take that?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You know, one of the one of the other reporters,
John took a little dig at at KFI that was
against the rail. He looked at me and said, well,
you know, right wing media's here. I can't wait to
see the narrative that comes up, comes out of this,
comes out of this guy essentially, which.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Everybody I didn't even.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I didn't even you know, no, I didn't even have
a chance to respond. I want to go to this
student here. I tried to talk to a few students
this morning, and I mean, they're college kids, right, they
see the guy, the media guy you're laying so most
of them walked past. But I did talk to this
to this student, and he told me he's frustrated with
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all of it, pro Palestinian supporters, pro Israeli supporters.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
He says, he doesn't care, he's he's over all of it.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
It's a total disruption. It's not fair to the students.
It's it's definitely not fair to Yeah, it's not fair
to student, it's not fair to administration. It's not fair
to anybody. You know, this is going to affect more
people than they anybody who's involved in here is ever
going to realize and their their pride and their hubris
really contributed to this, and it's terrible.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
What do you think the school should do about this?
Speaker 10 (13:44):
I think anybody who is involved in organizing the protest
should be expelled. I think anybody who was involved in
the violence yesterday, whether or not they were a student,
should If they were a student, I think they should
be expelled. If not, I think, uh, you know, they
should be arrested. Anybody who was involved in the violence
on either side.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Now, John, this guy, the most shocking thing he told me,
and it really stuck out to me, is that he
is super surprised by who is actually staying in this
pro Palestinian encampment here on campus. He says he knows
some of these people inside, and these are people he
never thought would have been inside this camp. And you
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really wonder, because we hear that blowback, where are the parents?
Where are the parents? I would assume based on what
he told me saying that he's surprised by some of
the people that he knows that are inside of here.
If a lot of parents just don't think it's their
little Johnny inside.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, well, the of there's a lot of covert operations
going on at all these protests at these universities. Thank
you very much, Blake, it was highly entertaining. And send
that first clip over to our guys. Okay, I want
to all right, Yeah, I'll send it for later entertainment
when we come back. We're going to talk with had
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him on yesterday from News Nation, which is the new
cable news channel you ought to be watching. Rick McHugh.
He has been at Columbia University this week. He gave
us a great report yesterday. We're going to talk to
him again in moments.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
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M six forty.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The whole thing is becoming a farce now, especially at UCLA.
We'll talk more coming up about Blake Trolley's reports and
that looney bit of a woman who was trying to
explain all the demands they have. And apparently these pro
Haamas protesters think they own the public land at UCLA,
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that it's their land. And shockingly, maybe not shockingly, Eugene
what's his name, Eugene Block, is that the chancellor.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Do they have a chancellor anymore UCLA? Do they have
a guy?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Because he's letting them just see he's the land and
create all kinds.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Of all kinds of a ruckus.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And then you know, here comes some Israeli guys to
teach the Palestinians a lesson Gene Gene right, jeene block,
and so you had a big fistfight that goes on
for two or three hours. LAPD doesn't stop it. I
guess UCLA didn't give him the go ahead on that.
But at UCLA's public land, it's not a private university
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like Columbia. I don't understand any of this. I don't Well,
we'll talk more about it coming up, and now let's
go to Rich McHugh.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He's waiting.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He's been at Columbia University this week and you probably
saw the police in New York arrested almost three hundred
people and cleared about three dozen out of Hamilton Hall,
the administrative building the crazies had barricaded themselves inside.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Rich, First, what's going on right now.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
It's a lot quieter than it was last night's that's
for sure, starting to resume get back to normal. Security
around campus is still heightened. Students only students really are
being allowed back in the campus. The main gates on
the West and East are still not open to the
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public they usually are. I expected that it's going to
remain that way for the foreseeable future because the students
I'm talking to think that this encampment will just go
right back up in the coming days. Despite the arrests overnight.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I had heard that Columbia officials had requested NYPD presidents
at least through May seventeenth, which is two days after graduation.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Is that true? Have you heard anything like that?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
I have not heard that. That wouldn't surprise me. I know, graduation,
they're trying to graduate, you know, fifteen different thousand students
between all their various schools and undergrad and graduate, So
that wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me if security
at the gate remains just extremely tight. The students that
were part of this that were arrested obviously probably expelled
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at this point, so their ideas won't be working. So
they've somewhat neutralized this problem for the foreseeable future. I
would say, But what happens outside the walls of Columbia,
like I'm Amsterdam and Broadway, is anybody's guests, and seeing
how this is spreading even within New York City. Now
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it's spread to Fordham, Cuny, the City College of New
York last night, and Fortam today. It looks like this
is just ramping up here and across the country.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I mean talk about eighteen hours before the police showed
up to remove the protesters that were barricaded in the
administrative building. And I had read that Columbia officials Border
trustees were meeting all night into the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What took them so long to do? What is obvious?
Did you?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Well? They had essentially painted themselves into a corner. So
like two weeks ago they authorized police to come in
and arrest everybody. They did. They came in and arrested
I think it was one hundred and eight student protesters
on the encampment. There was outcry from faculty and the
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Columbia Senate, I believe, and students. So the President of Columbia, Minusiafique,
weighing all that, came out with a statement last week says, look,
we regret the decision. We will not be doing that again.
And so when I think when the protesters heard this,
they're like, well, look, we have carte blanche to kind
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of do whatever we want. And just so happens that
fifty six years ago to the day, student protesters took
over Hamilton Hall on Columbia's campus protesting the Vietnam War.
At that time, NYPD was and they made seven hundred arrests.
It's not coincidence that this is fifty six years ago
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to the day that student protesters and protesters, I should say,
not just students protesters, because the NLPD made a big
point this morning to say there are professional agitators in
the group. But this is not coincidence that this has
happened to the day fifty six years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right, So Columbia says, jeez, we shouldn't have done that,
We shouldn't have had those protesters arrested. And they're shocked
that the protesters came back and barricaded themselves inside the building.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's just it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And I'm I saw some photos in video when that
crowd showed up, and they showed up, and they had furniture,
and they had gates, and they had all kinds of tools,
and the photographer took photos them all along the way.
It must have taken a little while to bring all
this stuff inside, to create the barricades and to bust
their way in, and nobody from the university tried to
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stop them, no security personnel, no NYPD, everybody just let
them spend an extended amount of time to bust into
this place and then barricade the offices.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
That's correct. There were a few campus security officials there
I think at the time, but they were quickly overrun
because what we heard today was that, look, they arrested
one hundred and nine different people at Columbia overnight. So
one hundred and nine people. You need what the NYPD
(21:38):
brought in for that to even stop that. It was
just they'd take it over the building. They were draping
the flags of Palestine from the sides, a sign that
says Intifada. There was a protester on the roof, you know,
kind of waving the flag of Palestine. Mayor this morning,
Mayor of New York City says, this is a disgrace
(21:59):
that we're allowing our institutions to be you know, have
these flags of other countries draped over them, like take down,
they're taking down our flag? Like where where is the
outcry over this? The mayor was feisty this morning. It
was it was quite something.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, yeah, it's terrible, and and so what what what
happens to the administration today? I mean, do these all
these administrators they show up for work like nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I mean, this is a clown show.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
It's uh, your guess is as good as mine. Honestly,
I think the president is probably on something nice because
everybody is being critical of the line she has kind
of walked here. I would assume that the board is
facing immense pressure from alumni who actually have their head
(22:47):
screwed down donors. You know, there's graduations coming up, a
lot of a lot of eyeballs that are going to
continue to be on on on the president and the
board here and how they navigate this going forward. But
it's you know, the cats out, you know, the damage
is done, yeah, for Columbia, And I would assume that
(23:11):
there's going to be you know, a lot of the
faculty were linking arms kind of protecting these protesters in
the encampment from being accessed by the administration. So I
think there's going to be a long, hard look at
everybody's role in what they're involvement was in these past
two weeks there.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Rich McHugh from News Nation, the new cable news channel,
Thanks very much, great reporting at university. We'll so much
to react to Deborah. I got to digest the last
forty minutes.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We had extensive reporting from Blake Turley and CAMFI News
on UCLA, and then we just finished talking with with
Rich mceube from News Nation about Columbia, and it's pretty
similar situations we had. You know what, I guess there's
something going on that none of us really knew about.
(24:13):
But the h the administrations at these universities have ruined
their brands, first of all, and they've completely abdicated Hey, John,
any responsibility.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
I'm just going to break in for a second though.
Just people are texting me there was an earthquake. I
guess we were, you know, too busy apping away. We
didn't feel it, but a preliminary magnitude of four point three,
six miles from Corona.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
My husband just texted me he felt it.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I definitely felt it. What time was it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Everybody? Apparently you and I are the only ones that
haven't felt it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Away?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Just now it happened? Yeah, yeah, it kind of felt
like a little rolling sensation.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
I thought it was honestly like the elevator, because sometimes
the elevator, the freight one that we're right next to,
sometimes that'll shake the floor a little bit, so I
thought it was that, but I guess it really was
an earthquake.
Speaker 11 (25:01):
It was an earthquake four point three preliminary magnitude one
nine pm. And I'm so happy to say, I'm really
happy to say I didn't feel you didn't.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You distracted me, and that was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I think every time you walk in, I get a
rolling sensation. So it seemed normal. All right, well, happy earthquake.
Everybody survived another one we did. Maybe it's maybe it's
a foreshow.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I was hoping you weren't going to say that. Let's hope.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I like to look on the dark side.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So I'm going back to Columbia and and UCLA. I mean,
last night they let some Israeli guys and supposedly older
guys come in and just beat the poop out of
the Palestinian protesters. This happened, you know, between around midnight
(25:49):
and three in the morning, and nobody wanted the police
to intervene. So I'm thinking, all right, that so the
administrators know this is happening, They know the palacest Indian
protesters that they bent themselves into pretzels trying to protect
are now getting revenge. They're getting attacked by these Jewish men.
(26:12):
I don't know if they're students. I don't know who
these people are. Eric Adams, the New York mayor, says
definitely they an NYPD. They had a press conference yesterday,
so definitely there's outside agitators. That's what we talked about yesterday.
We've gotten infiltrated, we really have. And it's impossible to
tell if these are Antifa like groups that planned to
(26:35):
turn all the universities upside down the same week, knowing
it was a sensitive time, it's exam time, graduation time,
and that it would achieve maximum impact and discomfort. So
there's some students. I wonder how many of them are
foreign students on foreign visas. I wonder how many of
(26:57):
them are here on a mission till filtrate and destabilize.
Because there's something not right about all this. This doesn't
seem all that organic, and the intensity of this, and
how they can scream and rant and rave all night
long and inside don't they all know they're going to
(27:20):
have no effect?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Benjamin not Yahoo said yesterday that whether they do a
cease fire or not, you know whether hostages come out
or not. They're going to invade Rafa and they're going
to finish and annihilate the rest of Hamas. And he said,
nothing is going to stop that. And he didn't have
(27:43):
to say this, but I'll finish it, certainly, not these
penny anti lunatics who are screaming like Jimboree toddlers.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There's another thing that woman said.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's like, well, we're dancing, we're singing songs where we're
using chalk, and her whole program sounded exactly like like
what my kids got when they were two and three
years old and they went to preschool or these little
toddler programs. I mean, these are these are men and
(28:18):
women and a lot of women in their late teens
and early twenties who talked the way little children do,
except they're supporting the most vicious, deadly, murderous terrorist group
running right now. And then if a reporter pushes them
on it, they say, oh, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Now they know what happened, So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There's there's there's something going on, and and I mean
the mayor in New York is saying that there was
the uh, the wife of one of the participants is
a well known terrorist. I got to get deeper into
that story coming up in the two o'clock hour as well.
So there's definitely evidence of these organized terroristic factions. And
(29:06):
I would call it some Palestinian version of Antifa, or
maybe real Antifa is involved. Maybe everyone's gonna glomb on.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't think this is just, and the administration is
I can't. They really don't think any of this is wrong.
It really doesn't bother them. The criticism bothers them, But
the actual the acts of people rioting and fighting and
you know, blocking Jewish kids from going to class in
the library, none of that bothers them. They're not willing
(29:40):
to get enraged and stay up all night screaming about it.
They could stop it. All this stuff could be stopped
in a minute. They're choosing not to stop this. Think
about why that would be When we come back this
is actually related. We're gonna have Art Arthur on from them.
The Center for Immigration Studies. It turns out hundreds of
thousands of illegal aliens have been flown to US cities
(30:01):
by the Biden administration. No it's not Greg Abbott, No,
it's not Ron Desantez. It's Joe Biden. They have the
records hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants flown to forty
five US cities, and now Joe Biden wants to fly
in Palestinians who have relatives here. Well, that's going to go. Well,
(30:23):
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