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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app two hour. Two rounds
of the Moistline coming up next hour. We're also going
to have Royal Oaks from ABC News on the Donald
Trump trial. Hope Hicks, one of his top advisors. She
was on the stand and got emotional, started crying. See
(00:24):
what this is about. That will be next hour as well.
But now I heard this man on Fox yesterday. I
was driving and listening to the audio feed, and I
was just fascinated by what he had to say. Paul
Morrow is a former NYPD inspector, former head of the
NYPD Legal Bureau, also has led their Intelligence Operation and
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Analysis Bureau, an attorney, He's on TV all the time,
and boyd does he know a lot about how these
spontaneous college protests form and who's behind them and who
funds them, who organizes them. And we're going to talk
to Paul Mora right now. Paul, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm good? John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm good? I heard you driving around yesterday and I
was just fascinated because we've talked about some of this stuff.
I've suspected some of this stuff, and to hear you
articulate what's really going on and contrast it with the
way these events are reported was really quite stunning. Explain
to people how this protest industry works.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, so all of this is about as spontaneous as
a moon launch, frankly, because what happens is there's a
class of protesters in this country, particularly in the Blue cities,
and it's a job. It's a career path. I think
that's the thing that a lot of people don't realize.
Over the years, it's become a fairly lucrative living, not
as a management class, and they're sort of permanently concretized
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into the firmament, right, They run the whole thing, they
prepare for it are all times. They're the ones who
control the money and draw nice salaries. They're always bubbling
underneath the surface. They're always looking for a gripe, and
so they're always having protests. But every few years, something
big comes along. And I've used the metaphor of the
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Cicada protesters, just like Cicata locus stay surface from underground
every few years. Right, so the last initially, let's call
Occupy Wall Street as the beginning of the current cycle, right,
and then we had a few years later the Floyd
Riots in the Summer of Love twenty twenty. Now four
years on, we have the current nonsense going on on
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our campuses, and the current villain of the day is,
let's not mince words, it's not Zionism, it's Jews. They
like to make this distinction between the two. Anybody's been
up close on this and seeing how some of the
messaging is going out, and you know how Jews on
campus are being treated. This is anti Semitism. Let's not
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kid ourselves, you know, and let's recognize it. You can't
fix a problem unless you recognize you have it. So
what they do is they weaponize the car college students.
There's an endless cycle of those. They just seem to
be getting dumber. They're ignorant, ignorant of history of that
region of the world and of the fact that they
are essentially a Stalin called them useful idiots. And they
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come and go, and they'll all go back to East
Cupcake and when this is over are relatively unscarred, maybe
with minor police records that they'll pay to get expunged.
But the permanent class of these protesters slash agitators will
remain this time. However, we have the overlay of HAMAS,
which makes the entire thing a lot more volatile.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are the direct relationships between HAMAS and these professional protesters
they seem to be developing.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So there are a couple and I'm not going to
say them because I don't want to encourage this stuff,
but there are some social media outlets that the groups
and again I'm not going to even say the name
of the student groups, but a couple of the Edgier
student groups have put out the word join this forum,
and consequently they have and it's interesting to see because
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they're using these forums to communicate with each other to
plan their movements. They put out communicats saying things like
everybody go to sixty third and fifth for we're going
to head muster up there, and we're going to head
to the new school and protest there. That was yesterday,
and yet like a next message will be from al
Kasm Brigades, let's say, which is the militarized wing of Hamas,
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or from the Hutis, which are a Shia group in
northern Yemen and a designated terrorist group, and they'll say
things like, more power to you, students, keep doing what
you're doing, and in fact, in some instances they're urging
them to get more militants and to take quote unquote
direct action. I think we all know what that means.
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And that's why I think this sit is such a
volatile stew of things going on, because you know, this
could edge over into kind of radicalization that we saw
in early AQ, and isis they lose it a lion
paradigm where people who may be a leading down slipping
down lives feel like it's time for me to do
something meaningful with my life, and here's a group of
people that appreciate me. And you also have the fact
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that there have been some characters spotted in the encampments
on campus who are related to terrorists period understory, convicted terrorists.
One of them was deported. He resides in Turkey, family
members here on the campus in the Columbia encampment before
the NYPD cleaned it out. So you can imagine why
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a character like me is fairly concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And I saw that NYPD thinks half of the protesters
may have been outsiders at Columbia and City College.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, that tracks I'm going to push back on that
a little bit. John. You know, I actually think that
I saw this narrative during the Deblasio years relative to
Occupy Wall Street and relative to the BLM riots, and
this is a way to absolve New Yorkers responsibility. And
you literally see coming out of the Mayor's office things
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like our children are being radicalized and these outside agitators
are causing all of this. And you know, at some
point you've got to say to yourself, these are supposed
to be the kreme de la creme of our education,
of our educational class. These are Columbia students who are
ostensibly going to be the future senators, governor's faculty members,
and if they can't think for themselves, then that's on them.
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And I just don't like this idea that they're setting
up this paradigm. And here's why I'm nervous. I'm afraid
they're going to drop all the charges. One of the
things that you can do to disincentivize this stuff, obviously,
is give these kids real charges where they get fingerprinted, photographed,
et cetera, and they have a criminal record, and we
contrack them. You drop all the charges like they did
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after the first night in Columbia, you don't disincentivize it.
And I get a rumbling of the idea that they're
very quietly looking to do that and to absorb and
I'm afraid that deal actually was cut before the NYPD
went in. So I don't like this idea that, oh,
it's agitators leading our kids by the nose. That's bs man.
A lot of my sody ages, they're twenty three, twenty four,
A lot of them my graduate students, and it's about
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two less numbers. I saw. It's about two thirds students
to one third agitators. And I remember that's only the
people that were arrested. A lot of the students they protest,
they you know, they scream, they yell, then they go
home to take their online finals. So I'm a little
skeptical of that, and I think it's something that we
should be leery of.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Are these also foreign students on student visas? And are
they are they? Are they coming here they to cause
trouble or they get swept up into it after the fact.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, I don't have any hard data on that, John,
So I don't want to say something I'm not sure of.
I will tell you that certainly a lot of them
are foreign students. What visas they're on and what their
motivations are is anybody's guests, because, as you know all
too well, we don't really have a southern border. And
if you can accept the fact that we've had thirty
to fifty thousand Chinese military age nationals coming through our
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southern border for some undetermined purpose, the idea that we
have people with terrorist intent coming through our southern border,
especially when we know for a fact that there have
been dozens who are on watch lists who we then
determine we find in the interior of the country. And
when let's say the Ebauer brothers, one of whom is
accused of killing Lakeln Riley Done Georgia, are hard carrying
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in Trende Aragua members, which is the Venezuela and prison
gang that we're also concerned about. Sure, I have no
problem positing and believing that, but I don't have hard data.
And let's hope we get the hard data at some point,
because that's the kind of stuff that's tough to peel
back from the onion.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Do the administrators understand what's going on? I mean out
here in La the UCLA Chancellor seems utterly clueless of
what he's up again, men, are are they that naive?
Or are they? Are they that much sympathetic to the cause.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think it's both, you know, but who knows how
these minds work. I tell you I was on the
effort three hours that night waiting for the cops to
show up at UCLA. And this is not a shot
at the cops. I dealt with LAPD. I had cases
with the Sheriff's office out there, the county Sheriff's sary Kerr.
So that's a real agency. Those are real police. I
never dealt with chips. But those two agencies are real,
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mature agencies. They know how to do it. They know
what they do, and the proof of that is once
they were given to green light, they did it. But
the dittering was shameless. And then this canard about all
they can't go in until they're asked to go in?
Is a full scale riot going on? What if those
weren't two by fours right, What if those have been
edged weapons or guns? You can tell me the cops
are gonna wait around the perimeter waiting for the green
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light to go in. It's nonsense. It's it's it's just
complete political coverage. And you got to say to yourself,
who is the commonality there politically above chips a county
agency and a city agency. That's the governor. And where
was Newsome? Checking his hair was up the French laundry,
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you know, wondering about what he's going to order for
an appetizer. Where was this guy here? He's a mia
hiding under his desk, and you know, there's a full
scale ride going on. I was appalled. I was embarrassed
as an American and certainly as as a lawyer and
a cop and whatever other had you want to put
on me. I couldn't believe that even in New York,
as sort of down on New York as I am
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these days, you know, I really don't think that would
have happened here. I'm amazed he got away with it.
And there hasn't been calls for a deep die forensic
as to what went wrong, because that can't happen now.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He was almost completely silent. There was one tepid statement
sent out in his name, and there was nothing actually
that none of the local politicians here said very much.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was apparently in Washington, right, I mean, you know, on
your dime, you know. I mean, I was waiting for
somebody to come out and give a press conference at least, like, hey,
we know what's going on. We're gathering the horses, we're
going to do it. But as usual, they let it
go too too far. They coddled these kids and nas
the cops to go win and clean it up. Then
the optic is ugly. They're all hoping to get arrested
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or assaulted so they can sue the city then will settle.
These anti police and really anti American groups are then
further funded, and then the whole cycle starts all over again.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Could you hang on for a few more minutes. I
got to do a news break. Do you got time?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Sure, okay, because I want to ask you about the funding.
We're talking here with Paul Morrow, and you can see him.
He appears often on Fox News. He's also former NYPD inspector,
former head of the NYPD Legal Bureau, head of the
Intelligence Operations and Analysis Bureau, an attorney, and he's giving
us the behind the scenes analysis of how these protests
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really develop and who's involved in creating it and funding it,
with the logistics behind it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six voting.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We continue with Paul Moram and he is a He
can analyze all the demonstrations that are going on across
the country. With his background as a former NYPD inspector,
a former head of the NYPD Legal Bureau, head of
their Intelligence, Operations and Analysis Bureau. He knows this stuff.
And we've been discussing who is designing, funding, supplying these
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college protests over the gaza situation around the country. It's
not just the naive students, it is really hardened, battle
tested veterans of the protest game. It's it's become an industry.
Let's get Paul Moro back on. Paul, So, who's funding
this is? This is big bucks because you talk about
how well paid the industry can be if you want
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to work in it. For these I guess nonprofits. I
mean there's a lot of supplies involved right there. There's
there's a lot of logistics and organization and recruitment costs.
Where's the money coming from?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean obviously, as I said, this stuff isn't
very spontaneous. The day after they decided to go active,
there are four hundred tenths deployed, all of which are
the same color or you know, of the same design,
so they're ready. If you ever wondered why they all
have placards the next day that are all already pre printed,
et cetera. You know, you get some intimation of the
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level of coordination an organization that that that goes on.
So look, there are a lot of them names you've
heard before. The Soros Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, You've got
the Silicon Valley big wigs. You've got Jeff Bezos's ex
wife just gave six hundred and fifty million dollars to
Far Left Causes. What happens is they keep their prints
off of it. They give the money to these cutouts
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and their umbrella groups, the Tides Foundation. They go through
a spider web. It's a very labyrinthine thing to try
to penetrate, and it goes out to vary all ships
at sea. The money gets cut up through this guy,
through that guy, then goes to this guy, and ultimately
it finds its way down to the street. And you know,
BLM the same thing. There were a number of pretty
good BLM forensics done regarding the money done after the
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twenty twenty Summer of Love, and you should see, you know,
if you look at these documentaries are on YouTube, you
can see where some of the money went, and it's
just astounding. A lot of them went to a lot
of transgender groups and things like that. They also they
you know, you get a lot of money from the
corporations that think that they're you know, on the side
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of the angels, or maybe are just paying money into
the coffers in an effort to be popped bypassed. You know,
it's a little extortion it and the idea of being, hey, look,
we gave you money, so don't focus on the fact that,
you know whatever, we're using slave labor to extract lithium
in West Africa or something. You know, they don't want
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to be They don't want it to be that day
in the barrel. So it's a lot of money. It's
in the billions. There are over a thousand, five oh
one c three civil rights groups in New York and
oh look, I'm not dirtying up everybody who protests, who
wants to use their First Amendment rights, who wants to
come out against even police, that's your right. And the
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cops aren't perfect, of course, neither is the legal profession.
But when you see the kind of coordinated effort I saw,
let's say, starting fifteen April, when globally, not just nationally,
these protests all kicked off at the same time, some
of them which got pretty rough. You got to city yourself.
In addition to the groups I just named, is their
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foreign influence? Is their foreign money? And to be frank,
I've dealt with our adversaries overseas enough to know that
we would be naive and they would be foolish, not
who have partaken of this aperture. And they're not foolish
in a lot of ways. They're smarter and more realistic
than we are. And so to think that some of
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our real adversaries on the global stage are not looking
at this just like the border and saying there is
an opportunity, we'd be kidding ourselves.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I understand the motivation of some of these foreign adversaries.
What's the motivation of some of those rich foundations you
quoted widows of billionaires, the billionaires themselves, the tech people.
Why are they funneling money into so much chaos and destruction,
hatred of Jewish people? What's in it for them? You
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can do a lot with your money. Why pick these
causes that are causing so much, you know, insanity, You.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Know, John as they're saying, goes, I have more degrees
than at tomownor but one of them isn't in psychology.
And I wish I could understand that mindset. I really don't.
These are people who have benefited so greatly from this country,
which is admittedly imperfect, but in my mind, the greatest
system ever devised in human history to lift the most people.
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It really is the rising tide that lifts most boats.
And of course you're always going to have people disgruntled
in any system, but the idea that the beneficiaries of
that system are all of a suddens. You know, over
the last what do we want to say, twenty thirty years?
Maybe you want to track it back to the sixties.
You know, at some point it really just became cool,
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and it feels like we're just still within the the
number of the nineteen sixties anti establishment idea. I mean,
consider this, you have people out there and I've done this,
It had a track down people with a rest warrants, etc.
Who are out there want they want to get arrested
and yet they have trust funds, they're dumpster diving, living
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with Antifa. They're a rest warrant, not a guy. One
time we had to go find them. He was living
in a town called Muttontown, New York, on Long Island.
I'd never been there. I couldn't We couldn't see the
house from the road. That's how long the driveway was.
I mean, it was like Gatsbyville. And this kid had
open warrants on him, and he was dumpster diving with Antifa.
And you know, it's part of the it's part of
the rhetoric and the ethic of it to want to
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get arrested. That's what kills me when they start screaming,
when the cuffs go on. And I don't have to
speculate about that. Look at our president, you know. Biden
tells a lot of tall tales, but not coincidentally. Two
of them have to do with bogus arrests. He says
he was arrested with Nelson Mandela. Never happened, that he
was arrested at desegregation demonstration on a black family's porch,
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even in New York Times can't find any evidence of that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It just is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Part of it is just to be one of the
cool kids.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, fascinating to talk with you, Paul, thank you for
coming on. I hope we can talk again sometime.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I appreciate it. Can I throw in a plug? Go ahead,
real quick, folks. If you're not tired of me yet,
you can go to opstest dot org. That's a website where,
you know, got some intel cops and lawyers like me
opining on this stuff at a podcast there as well.
You can sign up for the newsletter and it's the
kind of stuff you're not going to hear elsewhere. So
thank you and.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
John, thank you. This is fun. Thank you opsdesk dot org.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay, Paul Morale, you're listening to John Cobels on demand
from KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I'm telling you we just had Paul Morrow on
who appears on Fox News, and he's been a long
time official with NYPD, and he had a lot of
truth to tell about who's orchestrating and paying for designing
and supplying these demonstrations. It is not benign college students
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starry eyed about exercising their First Amendment right. No, we've
been infiltrated uh. And there's there's feign infiltration involved in here,
with a lot of leftist movements trying to destabilize everything.
Uh and and I think people are are I would
think parents around the country are waking up that these universities,
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even ones with famous names, had become a snake pit
for their for their kids, and their children's brains and
their mental health. I have noticed over the last few
years that you know, you grow up in an era
where things like the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, NBCCBSABC,
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all the old media outlets had a powerful cachet, and
these outlets have been living off that cachet because they
were the supreme authority when a lot of people were
growing up, not younger people, but older people. And you
still have a reflex to want to believe what's on
their pages or what's on their broadcasts. And it's almost
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like I was compared to the old British aristocracy, you know,
the fourth account of Rumpelton, And you know, once you
get down through the generations, they end up being a
bunch of drunks and mental patients whacked out on drugs.
They've blown all their money and their estates are all
run down. There's rats running around, and they have their
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coat of arms, right, the family coat of arms, and
it looks really impressive. And they still have some there's
still a baron or account or whatever, and they're still
treated with a certain amount of respect and awe because
where they came from. But really they're rotted out people.
It's a rotted out family. And that's what a lot
of the media outlets are like, right, I mean, Los
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Angeles Times is rotted out. All they have left is
their nameplate, the Los Angeles Times masthead at the top
of the website, on the front of the paper. That's
all that's left. And it makes you think, like, wow,
this is one of the great newspapers in America. Well,
you know it's not. It's not. It's completely destroyed. And
the same thing that goes with these colleges, especially like
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these Ivy League colleges, even places like UCLA, it's rotted
out from the inside. They still have the nameplate, they
still have the masthead, they still have the coat of arms,
but inside that's running around. You can't believe how much
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money is being paid. Do you ever stop and think,
de ever, how much money you've paid for college.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I try not to staggering, isn't it. Yeah, because your
kids went to good schools. Yeah, so did mine. I know,
I know, I'm it's I try to block out that
number in my head. And you send them there and
they come back with all these not different ideas than
you have, but these whack job progressive, absurd ideas. And
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my friends they talk about this all the time. You
don't expect to have a carbon copy of a child
who has all the same beliefs that you have. But
some of the stuff that's coming home to people's home,
coming to people's homes, what I've heard is like, holy crap,
and it's all the woke bs. The Wall Street Journal
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has a story and reading it makes me think the
only thing you can do is like stop the check.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Stop funding these places. Either your son or daughter is
going into debt six figures or you're going into debt
six figures. But what do you have at the end
of it, especially if they take a BS course, they're
doing gender studies. There's some such nonsense like that. And
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the article talks about how colleges have a new source
of protest I rate parents parents paying as much as
ninety thousand dollars for their sons and daughters to attend
elite universities. Angry and frustrated both sides of the political divide.
It says, whether their kids are protesting, counterprotesting, or trying
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to stay out of it, parents are demanding schools do
more to keep them safe and keep them learning and
have them learned real stuff. I know a lot of
these courses, even math and science courses, courses where you
think is just based on facts or teaching skills in
a certain industry, is overloaded and invaded with all kinds
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of woke garbage, nonsense, and kids trying to fake their
way through it. They have to prove to their professor
that they really believe all these weird concepts, whether it's
you know, sexuality, gender and all the related and they don't.
They're just faking it to get through the day. The
indoctrination isn't even working on most of the kids. Some
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of the kids, you know, they're lost causes, and we
see them in the streets protesting. But for most it's like,
this is what college is about. This is what I'm
going in debt for for one hundred thousand dollars. This
is why my mom and dad worked second jobs on
the weekends for this. It's garbage, and shame on all
of us for paying for it. It kind of crept
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up on all of us. But I think we now
know the truth and from this day forward, you got
to stop sending your kids to these places. This isn't prestige,
this isn't elite, This is garbage. These colleges are intellectual sores.
So the Wall Street Journal said, the parents are pushing
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back financially. They want tuition refunds when the classes have
been canceled from these idiotic protests. They're calling up counselors
to get their money back. They're threatening not to donate
in the future. Yeah, that's what you gotta do. A
lot of families are questioning the value, just in general,
of a college education because you walk out there with
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a ton of debt and then what and a lot
of nutty ideas that don't play in the workplace. Everybody
I know has said that recent graduates coming into the
workplace seem to be from another planet and don't understand
how the real world works. Is not interested in it.
In fact, they're really nasty that you're supposed to think
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like they do, and everybody's afraid that somehow they're going
to get sued ard by this crowd. It's amazing, and
they don't know crap what parents kid went to Barnard
College ninety thousand dollars a year. Everybody's disappointed because all
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the restrictions and cansulation, especially if you're in your graduate year,
this is what you get. And I know, I mean,
you've got to you gotta, you gotta have stop having respect.
You've got to shake off your your admiration in awe
for these places that are nothing but their their antiquities.
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Now their name plates don't mean anything, their mastheads don't
mean anything, their coat of arms don't mean anything. It's
a name. Now it's been rotted out by all this
woke progressive garbage. They've ruined the place. Sometimes, you know,
you have you ever got on a vacation and you're
touring this grand mansion and a king or a queen
or some kind of emperor, some kind of wealthy magnate
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lived there, and now it smells, it's damp, it's musty.
There really are rats running around you. You're choking on
the mold. That's what's happened. And we got to come
up with new We got to come up with better
places to send the kids to go, because this isn't working,
this isn't worth nearly one hundred grand a year, and
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and all this psych all this garbage with their woke
progressive studies. Just stop. No more zero. You smell that coming,
pull your application, don't even apply, don't go there, don't
take the courses somewhere else. That's not what life is about.
More coming up.
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week he was testifying, he was testifying to attorneys he'd
been subpoenaed. Well, now we have another dead whistleblower, Joshua Dean,
forty five years old. Same thing. He was accusing Boeing
publicly of ignoring safety flaws in the seven thirty seven
(28:58):
Max production line. Now he's dead, and it's a weird
illness too. He ended up with pneumonia and MRSA. It
seemed he had a series of infections and at the
relative relatively young age of forty five, he's dead. His
(29:19):
mother said, he uh. He went underway a procedure to
investigate the damage done to his lungs through the pneumonia,
and then he contacted MRCA, tested positive for the flu.
Tests also showed he'd suffered a stroke, and eventually he
(29:46):
just died. Now what are the odds of two public
whistleblowers both dying at a young age under mysterious circumstances.
I mean, is there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Maybe the stress? Who knows what they had to deal with.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If they had that much stress, then what are the
boeing goons doing to these these guys?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Well, we don't know what happened to the first one, right,
whether he killed himself or not. This guy, I mean,
he was very ill. We don't know why or how
he got so ill.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
His mother said he was very depressed, frightened, doing a
lot of sleeping and not responding. And he was not
even under sedation or any pain medication. They both had
the same lawyer, too. Is that is that weird? I mean,
(30:46):
if you heard this story coming out of Russia, everybody
would just say, oh, that's Putin, right, Like, there are
no whistleblowers against Vladimir Putin. They don't last. You get
pushed off a motel ball, that's a given, yeah, Or
somebody jabs an umbrella in your back and your face
starts to rot. Are you're poisoned? Yeah? This guy, Joshua Dean,
(31:11):
he is the one who described the pizza party at
the Wichita plant. That was the perk offered to employees
if there was a decline in the number of defects
being reported, and so that encouraged all the employees to
not report defects. And if you kept the number long enough,
you got a slice of pizza. In fact, Dean was
(31:35):
the one who said after they won the pizza, while
everyone was eating it, all they were talking about was, well,
we only got the pizza because everybody decided not to
report the defects anymore. Dean said, and he told this
to NPR. We're having a pizza party because we're lowering defects.
But we're not lowering defects, we just ain't reporting them.
(31:58):
You know what I mean, pizza really worth it? I mean,
come on, I was gonna say, I mean, what's on
that pizza? It's in wichita. It can't be good pizza.
I are people's lives. That's sad, that empty that you're
willing to overlook airplane defects that could cause people to die.
(32:24):
So you got a slice of pizza for about five minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, pizza is really not that expensive.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
A slice of pizzas how much is a slice of pizza?
That's uh, that's hard to boil. And they killed him
over that. Excuse me. He died of pneumonia or mursa
or the flu or something, or he's been poisoned or
(32:52):
they shot him. All right, more coming up Royal Oaks
reporting on the Trump trial. Hope Picks, who we met
years ago. I remember Ray and Kennon. I met her
when we during the twenty sixteen race. She was on
the stand and apparently she started crying. We'll find out why. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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of the Moistline coming up next hour. We're also going
to have Royal Oaks from ABC News on the Donald
Trump trial. Hope Hicks, one of his top advisors. She
was on the stand and got emotional, started crying. See
(00:24):
what this is about. That will be next hour as well.
But now I heard this man on Fox yesterday. I
was driving and listening to the audio feed, and I
was just fascinated by what he had to say. Paul
Morrow is a former NYPD inspector, former head of the
NYPD Legal Bureau, also has led their Intelligence Operation and
(00:46):
Analysis Bureau, an attorney, He's on TV all the time,
and boyd does he know a lot about how these
spontaneous college protests form and who's behind them and who
funds them, who organizes them. And we're going to talk
to Paul Mora right now. Paul, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm good? John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm good? I heard you driving around yesterday and I
was just fascinated because we've talked about some of this stuff.
I've suspected some of this stuff, and to hear you
articulate what's really going on and contrast it with the
way these events are reported was really quite stunning. Explain
to people how this protest industry works.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, so all of this is about as spontaneous as
a moon launch, frankly, because what happens is there's a
class of protesters in this country, particularly in the Blue cities,
and it's a job. It's a career path. I think
that's the thing that a lot of people don't realize.
Over the years, it's become a fairly lucrative living, not
as a management class, and they're sort of permanently concretized
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into the firmament, right, They run the whole thing, they
prepare for it are all times. They're the ones who
control the money and draw nice salaries. They're always bubbling
underneath the surface. They're always looking for a gripe, and
so they're always having protests. But every few years, something
big comes along. And I've used the metaphor of the
(02:11):
Cicada protesters, just like Cicata locus stay surface from underground
every few years. Right, so the last initially, let's call
Occupy Wall Street as the beginning of the current cycle, right,
and then we had a few years later the Floyd
Riots in the Summer of Love twenty twenty. Now four
years on, we have the current nonsense going on on
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our campuses, and the current villain of the day is,
let's not mince words, it's not Zionism, it's Jews. They
like to make this distinction between the two. Anybody's been
up close on this and seeing how some of the
messaging is going out, and you know how Jews on
campus are being treated. This is anti Semitism. Let's not
(02:52):
kid ourselves, you know, and let's recognize it. You can't
fix a problem unless you recognize you have it. So
what they do is they weaponize the car college students.
There's an endless cycle of those. They just seem to
be getting dumber. They're ignorant, ignorant of history of that
region of the world and of the fact that they
are essentially a Stalin called them useful idiots. And they
(03:13):
come and go, and they'll all go back to East
Cupcake and when this is over are relatively unscarred, maybe
with minor police records that they'll pay to get expunged.
But the permanent class of these protesters slash agitators will
remain this time. However, we have the overlay of HAMAS,
which makes the entire thing a lot more volatile.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are the direct relationships between HAMAS and these professional protesters
they seem to be developing.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So there are a couple and I'm not going to
say them because I don't want to encourage this stuff,
but there are some social media outlets that the groups
and again I'm not going to even say the name
of the student groups, but a couple of the Edgier
student groups have put out the word join this forum,
and consequently they have and it's interesting to see because
(04:04):
they're using these forums to communicate with each other to
plan their movements. They put out communicats saying things like
everybody go to sixty third and fifth for we're going
to head muster up there, and we're going to head
to the new school and protest there. That was yesterday,
and yet like a next message will be from al
Kasm Brigades, let's say, which is the militarized wing of Hamas,
(04:26):
or from the Hutis, which are a Shia group in
northern Yemen and a designated terrorist group, and they'll say
things like, more power to you, students, keep doing what
you're doing, and in fact, in some instances they're urging
them to get more militants and to take quote unquote
direct action. I think we all know what that means.
(04:46):
And that's why I think this sit is such a
volatile stew of things going on, because you know, this
could edge over into kind of radicalization that we saw
in early AQ, and isis they lose it a lion
paradigm where people who may be a leading down slipping
down lives feel like it's time for me to do
something meaningful with my life, and here's a group of
people that appreciate me. And you also have the fact
(05:08):
that there have been some characters spotted in the encampments
on campus who are related to terrorists period understory, convicted terrorists.
One of them was deported. He resides in Turkey, family
members here on the campus in the Columbia encampment before
the NYPD cleaned it out. So you can imagine why
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a character like me is fairly concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And I saw that NYPD thinks half of the protesters
may have been outsiders at Columbia and City College.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, that tracks I'm going to push back on that
a little bit. John. You know, I actually think that
I saw this narrative during the Deblasio years relative to
Occupy Wall Street and relative to the BLM riots, and
this is a way to absolve New Yorkers responsibility. And
you literally see coming out of the Mayor's office things
(06:03):
like our children are being radicalized and these outside agitators
are causing all of this. And you know, at some
point you've got to say to yourself, these are supposed
to be the kreme de la creme of our education,
of our educational class. These are Columbia students who are
ostensibly going to be the future senators, governor's faculty members,
and if they can't think for themselves, then that's on them.
(06:25):
And I just don't like this idea that they're setting
up this paradigm. And here's why I'm nervous. I'm afraid
they're going to drop all the charges. One of the
things that you can do to disincentivize this stuff, obviously,
is give these kids real charges where they get fingerprinted, photographed,
et cetera, and they have a criminal record, and we
contrack them. You drop all the charges like they did
(06:46):
after the first night in Columbia, you don't disincentivize it.
And I get a rumbling of the idea that they're
very quietly looking to do that and to absorb and
I'm afraid that deal actually was cut before the NYPD
went in. So I don't like this idea that, oh,
it's agitators leading our kids by the nose. That's bs man.
A lot of my sody ages, they're twenty three, twenty four,
A lot of them my graduate students, and it's about
(07:08):
two less numbers. I saw. It's about two thirds students
to one third agitators. And I remember that's only the
people that were arrested. A lot of the students they protest,
they you know, they scream, they yell, then they go
home to take their online finals. So I'm a little
skeptical of that, and I think it's something that we
should be leery of.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Are these also foreign students on student visas? And are
they are they? Are they coming here they to cause
trouble or they get swept up into it after the fact.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, I don't have any hard data on that, John,
So I don't want to say something I'm not sure of.
I will tell you that certainly a lot of them
are foreign students. What visas they're on and what their
motivations are is anybody's guests, because, as you know all
too well, we don't really have a southern border. And
if you can accept the fact that we've had thirty
to fifty thousand Chinese military age nationals coming through our
(08:00):
southern border for some undetermined purpose, the idea that we
have people with terrorist intent coming through our southern border,
especially when we know for a fact that there have
been dozens who are on watch lists who we then
determine we find in the interior of the country. And
when let's say the Ebauer brothers, one of whom is
accused of killing Lakeln Riley Done Georgia, are hard carrying
(08:23):
in Trende Aragua members, which is the Venezuela and prison
gang that we're also concerned about. Sure, I have no
problem positing and believing that, but I don't have hard data.
And let's hope we get the hard data at some point,
because that's the kind of stuff that's tough to peel
back from the onion.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Do the administrators understand what's going on? I mean out
here in La the UCLA Chancellor seems utterly clueless of
what he's up again, men, are are they that naive?
Or are they? Are they that much sympathetic to the cause.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think it's both, you know, but who knows how
these minds work. I tell you I was on the
effort three hours that night waiting for the cops to
show up at UCLA. And this is not a shot
at the cops. I dealt with LAPD. I had cases
with the Sheriff's office out there, the county Sheriff's sary Kerr.
So that's a real agency. Those are real police. I
never dealt with chips. But those two agencies are real,
(09:15):
mature agencies. They know how to do it. They know
what they do, and the proof of that is once
they were given to green light, they did it. But
the dittering was shameless. And then this canard about all
they can't go in until they're asked to go in?
Is a full scale riot going on? What if those
weren't two by fours right, What if those have been
edged weapons or guns? You can tell me the cops
are gonna wait around the perimeter waiting for the green
(09:36):
light to go in. It's nonsense. It's it's it's just
complete political coverage. And you got to say to yourself,
who is the commonality there politically above chips a county
agency and a city agency. That's the governor. And where
was Newsome? Checking his hair was up the French laundry,
(09:58):
you know, wondering about what he's going to order for
an appetizer. Where was this guy here? He's a mia
hiding under his desk, and you know, there's a full
scale ride going on. I was appalled. I was embarrassed
as an American and certainly as as a lawyer and
a cop and whatever other had you want to put
on me. I couldn't believe that even in New York,
as sort of down on New York as I am
(10:19):
these days, you know, I really don't think that would
have happened here. I'm amazed he got away with it.
And there hasn't been calls for a deep die forensic
as to what went wrong, because that can't happen now.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He was almost completely silent. There was one tepid statement
sent out in his name, and there was nothing actually
that none of the local politicians here said very much.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was apparently in Washington, right, I mean, you know, on
your dime, you know. I mean, I was waiting for
somebody to come out and give a press conference at least, like, hey,
we know what's going on. We're gathering the horses, we're
going to do it. But as usual, they let it
go too too far. They coddled these kids and nas
the cops to go win and clean it up. Then
the optic is ugly. They're all hoping to get arrested
(11:04):
or assaulted so they can sue the city then will settle.
These anti police and really anti American groups are then
further funded, and then the whole cycle starts all over again.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Could you hang on for a few more minutes. I
got to do a news break. Do you got time?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Sure, okay, because I want to ask you about the funding.
We're talking here with Paul Morrow, and you can see him.
He appears often on Fox News. He's also former NYPD inspector,
former head of the NYPD Legal Bureau, head of the
Intelligence Operations and Analysis Bureau, an attorney, and he's giving
us the behind the scenes analysis of how these protests
(11:44):
really develop and who's involved in creating it and funding it,
with the logistics behind it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six voting.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We continue with Paul Moram and he is a He
can analyze all the demonstrations that are going on across
the country. With his background as a former NYPD inspector,
a former head of the NYPD Legal Bureau, head of
their Intelligence, Operations and Analysis Bureau. He knows this stuff.
And we've been discussing who is designing, funding, supplying these
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college protests over the gaza situation around the country. It's
not just the naive students, it is really hardened, battle
tested veterans of the protest game. It's it's become an industry.
Let's get Paul Moro back on. Paul, So, who's funding
this is? This is big bucks because you talk about
how well paid the industry can be if you want
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to work in it. For these I guess nonprofits. I
mean there's a lot of supplies involved right there. There's
there's a lot of logistics and organization and recruitment costs.
Where's the money coming from?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean obviously, as I said, this stuff isn't
very spontaneous. The day after they decided to go active,
there are four hundred tenths deployed, all of which are
the same color or you know, of the same design,
so they're ready. If you ever wondered why they all
have placards the next day that are all already pre printed,
et cetera. You know, you get some intimation of the
(13:22):
level of coordination an organization that that that goes on.
So look, there are a lot of them names you've
heard before. The Soros Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, You've got
the Silicon Valley big wigs. You've got Jeff Bezos's ex
wife just gave six hundred and fifty million dollars to
Far Left Causes. What happens is they keep their prints
off of it. They give the money to these cutouts
(13:45):
and their umbrella groups, the Tides Foundation. They go through
a spider web. It's a very labyrinthine thing to try
to penetrate, and it goes out to vary all ships
at sea. The money gets cut up through this guy,
through that guy, then goes to this guy, and ultimately
it finds its way down to the street. And you know,
BLM the same thing. There were a number of pretty
good BLM forensics done regarding the money done after the
(14:10):
twenty twenty Summer of Love, and you should see, you know,
if you look at these documentaries are on YouTube, you
can see where some of the money went, and it's
just astounding. A lot of them went to a lot
of transgender groups and things like that. They also they
you know, you get a lot of money from the
corporations that think that they're you know, on the side
(14:31):
of the angels, or maybe are just paying money into
the coffers in an effort to be popped bypassed. You know,
it's a little extortion it and the idea of being, hey, look,
we gave you money, so don't focus on the fact that,
you know whatever, we're using slave labor to extract lithium
in West Africa or something. You know, they don't want
(14:52):
to be They don't want it to be that day
in the barrel. So it's a lot of money. It's
in the billions. There are over a thousand, five oh
one c three civil rights groups in New York and
oh look, I'm not dirtying up everybody who protests, who
wants to use their First Amendment rights, who wants to
come out against even police, that's your right. And the
(15:13):
cops aren't perfect, of course, neither is the legal profession.
But when you see the kind of coordinated effort I saw,
let's say, starting fifteen April, when globally, not just nationally,
these protests all kicked off at the same time, some
of them which got pretty rough. You got to city yourself.
In addition to the groups I just named, is their
(15:35):
foreign influence? Is their foreign money? And to be frank,
I've dealt with our adversaries overseas enough to know that
we would be naive and they would be foolish, not
who have partaken of this aperture. And they're not foolish
in a lot of ways. They're smarter and more realistic
than we are. And so to think that some of
(15:56):
our real adversaries on the global stage are not looking
at this just like the border and saying there is
an opportunity, we'd be kidding ourselves.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I understand the motivation of some of these foreign adversaries.
What's the motivation of some of those rich foundations you
quoted widows of billionaires, the billionaires themselves, the tech people.
Why are they funneling money into so much chaos and destruction,
hatred of Jewish people? What's in it for them? You
(16:29):
can do a lot with your money. Why pick these
causes that are causing so much, you know, insanity, You.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Know, John as they're saying, goes, I have more degrees
than at tomownor but one of them isn't in psychology.
And I wish I could understand that mindset. I really don't.
These are people who have benefited so greatly from this country,
which is admittedly imperfect, but in my mind, the greatest
system ever devised in human history to lift the most people.
(17:01):
It really is the rising tide that lifts most boats.
And of course you're always going to have people disgruntled
in any system, but the idea that the beneficiaries of
that system are all of a suddens. You know, over
the last what do we want to say, twenty thirty years?
Maybe you want to track it back to the sixties.
You know, at some point it really just became cool,
(17:22):
and it feels like we're just still within the the
number of the nineteen sixties anti establishment idea. I mean,
consider this, you have people out there and I've done this,
It had a track down people with a rest warrants, etc.
Who are out there want they want to get arrested
and yet they have trust funds, they're dumpster diving, living
(17:43):
with Antifa. They're a rest warrant, not a guy. One
time we had to go find them. He was living
in a town called Muttontown, New York, on Long Island.
I'd never been there. I couldn't We couldn't see the
house from the road. That's how long the driveway was.
I mean, it was like Gatsbyville. And this kid had
open warrants on him, and he was dumpster diving with Antifa.
And you know, it's part of the it's part of
the rhetoric and the ethic of it to want to
(18:05):
get arrested. That's what kills me when they start screaming,
when the cuffs go on. And I don't have to
speculate about that. Look at our president, you know. Biden
tells a lot of tall tales, but not coincidentally. Two
of them have to do with bogus arrests. He says
he was arrested with Nelson Mandela. Never happened, that he
was arrested at desegregation demonstration on a black family's porch,
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even in New York Times can't find any evidence of that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It just is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Part of it is just to be one of the
cool kids.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, fascinating to talk with you, Paul, thank you for
coming on. I hope we can talk again sometime.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I appreciate it. Can I throw in a plug? Go ahead,
real quick, folks. If you're not tired of me yet,
you can go to opstest dot org. That's a website where,
you know, got some intel cops and lawyers like me
opining on this stuff at a podcast there as well.
You can sign up for the newsletter and it's the
kind of stuff you're not going to hear elsewhere. So
thank you and.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
John, thank you. This is fun. Thank you opsdesk dot org.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay, Paul Morale, you're listening to John Cobels on demand
from KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I'm telling you we just had Paul Morrow on
who appears on Fox News, and he's been a long
time official with NYPD, and he had a lot of
truth to tell about who's orchestrating and paying for designing
and supplying these demonstrations. It is not benign college students
(19:32):
starry eyed about exercising their First Amendment right. No, we've
been infiltrated uh. And there's there's feign infiltration involved in here,
with a lot of leftist movements trying to destabilize everything.
Uh and and I think people are are I would
think parents around the country are waking up that these universities,
(19:54):
even ones with famous names, had become a snake pit
for their for their kids, and their children's brains and
their mental health. I have noticed over the last few
years that you know, you grow up in an era
where things like the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, NBCCBSABC,
(20:15):
all the old media outlets had a powerful cachet, and
these outlets have been living off that cachet because they
were the supreme authority when a lot of people were
growing up, not younger people, but older people. And you
still have a reflex to want to believe what's on
their pages or what's on their broadcasts. And it's almost
(20:37):
like I was compared to the old British aristocracy, you know,
the fourth account of Rumpelton, And you know, once you
get down through the generations, they end up being a
bunch of drunks and mental patients whacked out on drugs.
They've blown all their money and their estates are all
run down. There's rats running around, and they have their
(21:00):
coat of arms, right, the family coat of arms, and
it looks really impressive. And they still have some there's
still a baron or account or whatever, and they're still
treated with a certain amount of respect and awe because
where they came from. But really they're rotted out people.
It's a rotted out family. And that's what a lot
of the media outlets are like, right, I mean, Los
(21:21):
Angeles Times is rotted out. All they have left is
their nameplate, the Los Angeles Times masthead at the top
of the website, on the front of the paper. That's
all that's left. And it makes you think, like, wow,
this is one of the great newspapers in America. Well,
you know it's not. It's not. It's completely destroyed. And
the same thing that goes with these colleges, especially like
(21:43):
these Ivy League colleges, even places like UCLA, it's rotted
out from the inside. They still have the nameplate, they
still have the masthead, they still have the coat of arms,
but inside that's running around. You can't believe how much
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money is being paid. Do you ever stop and think,
de ever, how much money you've paid for college.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I try not to staggering, isn't it. Yeah, because your
kids went to good schools. Yeah, so did mine. I know,
I know, I'm it's I try to block out that
number in my head. And you send them there and
they come back with all these not different ideas than
you have, but these whack job progressive, absurd ideas. And
(22:30):
my friends they talk about this all the time. You
don't expect to have a carbon copy of a child
who has all the same beliefs that you have. But
some of the stuff that's coming home to people's home,
coming to people's homes, what I've heard is like, holy crap,
and it's all the woke bs. The Wall Street Journal
(22:55):
has a story and reading it makes me think the
only thing you can do is like stop the check.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Stop funding these places. Either your son or daughter is
going into debt six figures or you're going into debt
six figures. But what do you have at the end
of it, especially if they take a BS course, they're
doing gender studies. There's some such nonsense like that. And
(23:24):
the article talks about how colleges have a new source
of protest I rate parents parents paying as much as
ninety thousand dollars for their sons and daughters to attend
elite universities. Angry and frustrated both sides of the political divide.
It says, whether their kids are protesting, counterprotesting, or trying
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to stay out of it, parents are demanding schools do
more to keep them safe and keep them learning and
have them learned real stuff. I know a lot of
these courses, even math and science courses, courses where you
think is just based on facts or teaching skills in
a certain industry, is overloaded and invaded with all kinds
(24:07):
of woke garbage, nonsense, and kids trying to fake their
way through it. They have to prove to their professor
that they really believe all these weird concepts, whether it's
you know, sexuality, gender and all the related and they don't.
They're just faking it to get through the day. The
indoctrination isn't even working on most of the kids. Some
(24:30):
of the kids, you know, they're lost causes, and we
see them in the streets protesting. But for most it's like,
this is what college is about. This is what I'm
going in debt for for one hundred thousand dollars. This
is why my mom and dad worked second jobs on
the weekends for this. It's garbage, and shame on all
of us for paying for it. It kind of crept
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up on all of us. But I think we now
know the truth and from this day forward, you got
to stop sending your kids to these places. This isn't prestige,
this isn't elite, This is garbage. These colleges are intellectual sores.
So the Wall Street Journal said, the parents are pushing
(25:13):
back financially. They want tuition refunds when the classes have
been canceled from these idiotic protests. They're calling up counselors
to get their money back. They're threatening not to donate
in the future. Yeah, that's what you gotta do. A
lot of families are questioning the value, just in general,
of a college education because you walk out there with
(25:33):
a ton of debt and then what and a lot
of nutty ideas that don't play in the workplace. Everybody
I know has said that recent graduates coming into the
workplace seem to be from another planet and don't understand
how the real world works. Is not interested in it.
In fact, they're really nasty that you're supposed to think
(25:56):
like they do, and everybody's afraid that somehow they're going
to get sued ard by this crowd. It's amazing, and
they don't know crap what parents kid went to Barnard
College ninety thousand dollars a year. Everybody's disappointed because all
(26:19):
the restrictions and cansulation, especially if you're in your graduate year,
this is what you get. And I know, I mean,
you've got to you gotta, you gotta have stop having respect.
You've got to shake off your your admiration in awe
for these places that are nothing but their their antiquities.
(26:40):
Now their name plates don't mean anything, their mastheads don't
mean anything, their coat of arms don't mean anything. It's
a name. Now it's been rotted out by all this
woke progressive garbage. They've ruined the place. Sometimes, you know,
you have you ever got on a vacation and you're
touring this grand mansion and a king or a queen
or some kind of emperor, some kind of wealthy magnate
(27:02):
lived there, and now it smells, it's damp, it's musty.
There really are rats running around you. You're choking on
the mold. That's what's happened. And we got to come
up with new We got to come up with better
places to send the kids to go, because this isn't working,
this isn't worth nearly one hundred grand a year, and
(27:24):
and all this psych all this garbage with their woke
progressive studies. Just stop. No more zero. You smell that coming,
pull your application, don't even apply, don't go there, don't
take the courses somewhere else. That's not what life is about.
More coming up.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You're listening to John Cobel on Demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Report says, tears at the Trump trial today. One of
the witnesses, Hope picks one of his top assistance. We'll
find out what that was about. Why are there tears
going on? We're gonna have Roy l Oaks form ABC
News to tell us what went on at the Trump trial.
We got two rounds of the moist line going on
as well. And I have been absolutely fascinated by the
(28:12):
Boeing situation for months now, right since since early January
when the door plug blew out. Man that one moment
there has really opened up. All the closet doors came
flying open. Now we have a you remember a couple
of months ago, a Boeing whistleblower named John Barnett was
(28:34):
discovered in his vehicle allegedly having killed himself. Yes the
week he was testifying, he was testifying to attorneys he'd
been subpoenaed. Well, now we have another dead whistleblower, Joshua Dean,
forty five years old. Same thing. He was accusing Boeing
publicly of ignoring safety flaws in the seven thirty seven
(28:58):
Max production line. Now he's dead, and it's a weird
illness too. He ended up with pneumonia and MRSA. It
seemed he had a series of infections and at the
relative relatively young age of forty five, he's dead. His
(29:19):
mother said, he uh. He went underway a procedure to
investigate the damage done to his lungs through the pneumonia,
and then he contacted MRCA, tested positive for the flu.
Tests also showed he'd suffered a stroke, and eventually he
(29:46):
just died. Now what are the odds of two public
whistleblowers both dying at a young age under mysterious circumstances.
I mean, is there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Maybe the stress? Who knows what they had to deal with.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If they had that much stress, then what are the
boeing goons doing to these these guys?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Well, we don't know what happened to the first one, right,
whether he killed himself or not. This guy, I mean,
he was very ill. We don't know why or how
he got so ill.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
His mother said he was very depressed, frightened, doing a
lot of sleeping and not responding. And he was not
even under sedation or any pain medication. They both had
the same lawyer, too. Is that is that weird? I mean,
(30:46):
if you heard this story coming out of Russia, everybody
would just say, oh, that's Putin, right, Like, there are
no whistleblowers against Vladimir Putin. They don't last. You get
pushed off a motel ball, that's a given, yeah, Or
somebody jabs an umbrella in your back and your face
starts to rot. Are you're poisoned? Yeah? This guy, Joshua Dean,
(31:11):
he is the one who described the pizza party at
the Wichita plant. That was the perk offered to employees
if there was a decline in the number of defects
being reported, and so that encouraged all the employees to
not report defects. And if you kept the number long enough,
you got a slice of pizza. In fact, Dean was
(31:35):
the one who said after they won the pizza, while
everyone was eating it, all they were talking about was, well,
we only got the pizza because everybody decided not to
report the defects anymore. Dean said, and he told this
to NPR. We're having a pizza party because we're lowering defects.
But we're not lowering defects, we just ain't reporting them.
(31:58):
You know what I mean, pizza really worth it? I mean,
come on, I was gonna say, I mean, what's on
that pizza? It's in wichita. It can't be good pizza.
I are people's lives. That's sad, that empty that you're
willing to overlook airplane defects that could cause people to die.
(32:24):
So you got a slice of pizza for about five minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, pizza is really not that expensive.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
A slice of pizzas how much is a slice of pizza?
That's uh, that's hard to boil. And they killed him
over that. Excuse me. He died of pneumonia or mursa
or the flu or something, or he's been poisoned or
(32:52):
they shot him. All right, more coming up Royal Oaks
reporting on the Trump trial. Hope Picks, who we met
years ago. I remember Ray and Kennon. I met her
when we during the twenty sixteen race. She was on
the stand and apparently she started crying. We'll find out why. Hey,
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