May 6, 2024 • 32 mins
Steve Gregory comes on the show to talk about a report done by the UC system on the UCLA campus police's response to the protests last week on campus. Blake Troli comes on the show to talk about a LA DASH bus driver being attacked over the weekend. Who organized the Columbia anti-Israel protests?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't find AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app on a very busy, eventful day. Good Lord, you
might have heard that Israel decided to give the finger
to the rest of the world and they're rolling into Rafa,
into Gaza and they're gonna do what they're gonna do.
So there's no peace agreement, no ceasefire, and that story
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is changing about every ten minutes. So the next thing
that happens, you'll hear it here. Devor's on alert. She's
perched as a receipt.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I didn't even get a chance to chat with you
before the show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I know there's too much going on. And then you
have the protests here in America, which as each day
goes by, there's more fascinating information about who's behind the protest,
who's funding them, what characters are instigating them. We'll get
to all that. And then we have Steve Gregory here
because if you notice that UCLA to be absolutely no coherent,
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effective response from campus police or anybody else in the administration,
and Steve is going to tell us maybe what should
have happened. Yeah, So something that is called the Robinson
Italy Report from February twenty fourteen. I was made aware
of this over the weekend and actually provided a copy
of this one hundred and four page report that was
created by a Blue Ribbon panel and it was in
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response to the need for a more universal approach to
campus civil unrest and civil disobedience.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And this was all done through the UC system.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
At the time, the president of the UC system was
Janet Neapolitano, and so each of the campuses had to
come up with, you know, some of the deficiencies that
they recognized and some of the things that they're going
to do to help, you know, to help fix those deficiencies,
and what can the university system do as a whole
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to address these kinds of problems. So when I was
made aware of this over the weekend, I reached out
and successfully was able to get an interview with the
president of the union that represents the University of California
police officers. There's about two hundred and fifty in the
system of the ten campuses, and I had a really
long chat with him, and in the middle of our
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conversation news broke. The Chancellor Block at UCLA had created
a new office of campus Safety and appointed an advisory
committee and all these things, all this stuff, and right
in the middle of my interview, and I said, wait,
this is just coming through here.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
This was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I talked to him on a Sunday and the chancellor
sent it out on a Sunday, and I'm like, this
is odd. So I asked, Wade Stern is his name?
I said, Wade. He said, this is news to me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Wade Stern is an officer at UC Riverside, so he's
in the UC system. He's also a member of their system,
my response team, which we'll talk about in a second.
And he's the president of the union, so he's pretty
well entrenched in this operation, in this culture. He knows
what's happening. The bottom line is UCLA did not follow
the rules, did not follow the protocols and the mandates
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issued by the president of the university back in twenty fourteen.
They all work from this model, this Robinson Edley Report.
All the police departments work from this model. And I
was going to go through this a little bit by
bit because each of the universities has a section in
the big Report, and I've got the UCLA version right here.
And also from this report, there were forty nine recommendations
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offered to all the police departments, and you know what
one of the biggest ones was is that there should
always be an attempt to use the college police departments
first before.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Calling in any outside agencies.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And those decisions come from the top and or an
incident commander on the ground. So in this cut here
I wanted to play. This is a Wade Stern cut
a He talks a little bit about how the decisions
are made in a little bit of perplexing decisions made
leading up to those events of last week.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
The university itself, I don't know what they're guided by
and how they make those decisions. I think oftentimes they
want to try to solve the problems themselves, which is
fine most of the times. But the warning signs were
all there right when they started to fortify the encampment,
when video from up above showed them gathering fire extinguishers,
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PPE and other items. Those are telling signs that they're
preparing for something. And so why they chose to wait
to go into there, You'll have to ask the heaven.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was obvious.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's really still after all these days, astonishing that there
was no response. I guess he's just as flabbergasted as
everybody else. Yeah, and here then and cut b. He
talks about the system Mind Response Team. This, this is
a team of officers within that UC police system that
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are specially trained to handle protests and handle these de
escalation situations. And he talks a little bit about the
SRT team.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They're able to respond to civil disobedience and civil unrest
on our campuses.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's what we're trained for.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
We are guided by the Robinson Edley Report along with
our community safety plan that's been put together by the
university itself, the Office of the President. At the time
our SRT team prior to had been called police did
ask for our officers to respond for an SRT call out,
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and then it was canceled twice twice.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, and no reason given none.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They can't. They don't even know who made the call.
They don't even know who made the decision. And so
when we try to find out, all we get are these,
you know, these really slick looking statements. That's all we get. Statements.
I don't even know if ever going to give a
press conference about this.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The bureaucratic gibberish.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, speaking of that then this new Office of Campus
Safety is just another added layer of bureaucracy too. Now
in this kind of here, it's a little longer, but
I wanted to play for you. Now this is about
the new announcement of this public safety, new campus safety office,
and it's just really kind of interesting because it even
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baffles Wade Stern.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So this is now trying to take police out of
the direct hands of the vice chancellor, which is executive leadership.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
At the campus.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And so now what you're going to have is is
you're going to have a chief that is going to
report to this guy who's going to report to a
vice chancellor who's going to report to the chancellor.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
More bureaucracy, more bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What you're going to have is you have a chief
that you've been trusted, right, that has over thirty years
experience in law enforcement, that you hired to handle law enforcement,
you know, on campus and safety on campus. And now
you're bringing in another person with the same amount of experience.
Because the chief over at UCLA oversees the police department
and emergency management. So you're bringing in somebody else with
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thirty year years of experience to oversee the chief and
Emergency Services. I don't understand. I'm trying to make sense
of that.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Does it sound more like an ass covering move than
more of a tactical move.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I mean the timing of this doesn't look good, right, No, go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Ahead, Well, it's none of this has None of these
were safety decisions. These were political decisions because they were
either afraid of the protesters, or perhaps they agreed with
the protesters and they weren't about to do anything to
to to mitigate their protests. They were they weren't going
to destroy the encampment or remove these people or get
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them to behave in a more peaceful way. I think
they were rooting them on either that or they're terrified
to death. What I'd love to see is a phone
log of how many calls Jean Block got over that
last week and who he got the calls from. Yeah,
who was pressing him not to do anything, or to
do something or to find this right exactly? Well, it
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became untenable eventually. It was crazy violence that night when
the Israeli protesters challenged the Palestinian protesters, and now you
had civil war going on. But leading up to that,
clearly there was a reluctance, a defiance really to close
down that those encampments.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The thing is is these these and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I've got a lot more here. So I got breaking
news too about all of this. I don't know if
I'm allowed to say it, but I'm going to check
during the break. Well, you got to tell me, I
tell you. But if I can say anything, all right,
all right, we'll find out possible breaking news. Where do
you have to get permission from? As long as I
say it's okay, I am, the supreme permission gives it
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work that way.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
John Cobelt Show, I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
We got Steve Gregory from CAFI News here and last segment,
we talked about how UCLA did not use the protocol
that the uc system put out in twenty fourteen to
deal with the kind of situation that happened last week
with the protest and the tents and everything. Yeah, so
when you look at all these things, these protocols that
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came up with, including using the UCLA's school police first,
the system response team from all the school universities, using
all them first, they instead jumped over them and went
right into the local cops. And what I got there
now is that every chancellor from every university had to
sort of sign this allegiance letter, if you will, agreeing
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to all of these protocols and procedures back from twenty fourteen.
This is dated October twenty third, twenty thirteen. It was
to President Janet Apolitano, she was the U president at
the time. And it's from Gene Block, the chancellor at UCLA,
and he writes, I hereby certify that all of the
Robinson Edley report recommendations that were finalized and accepted have
been implemented or in the process of being implemented at
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the UCLA.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
At UCLA that might have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Been true in October twenty third was not true last
week at all. Right, And what's interesting about these recommendations
forty nine recommendations which also include all administration and leadership
going through the same training as the cops when it
comes to de escalation in crowd management. I heard any
report they haven't been doing training since twenty twenty. They
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cut the budget, probably a response to all the George
Floyd to fund.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The police area.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, possibly, but so they've had no and there's probably
been turnover both in the police department and an administration.
But they're supposed to be doing that training every year.
Well you got to be reminded of it. Well, yeah,
it's a perishable skill unless you've got protests every day.
But in this particular case, now officers they have to
go through the States standards too, that's post peace Officer
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standards and training, so they have to go through the
minimum amount of training to become a peace officer. And
they're all peace officers. But there's a different dynamic and
a different environment and culture on a college campus, So
approaches to protests are going to be a little different
than they are in downtown Los Angeles, right, because you're
dealing with students and you're dealing with a whole different
kind of mindset. And so that's why this SRT, this
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system wide Response team is more qualified, if you will,
to go in at least in the initial stages. Do
you know if they understood they were dealing with outside
agitators as well, and dealing with professionals who were organizing
and orchestrating this. I will tell you based on my
conversations with law enforcement and my experience, leadership thought they
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were all students. Cops knew they weren't. If you think
about it, cops know the difference, and they can spot
it a mile away. They know the difference between a
student who's just trying to stand up for principal and
someone who's out there to cause chaos.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They know the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, the supplies, they had, the logistics even, I know
the difference. I've been covering protests for years, right, so
you can tell right away when it's a professional operation.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean most of the students don't cover up their faces. Yeah,
you know. And you heard about the banana allergy, right,
I heard something about that, But what was that story?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So on the campus at U c l A, someone
declared they had a banana allergy within that compound, that encampment,
So everyone that was a member of that encampment had
to go over and sort of, you know, sign off
or confirm they were not holding any banana product. So,
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I mean, that's how bad it got. That's how bad
it got. So now I've never heard You want to
know what happened over the break? Okay, yes, you you
You got a text while we were talking, and then
you checked out the circumstances here, So what's the news. Yeah,
so it looks like there was a call this morning
involving police chiefs from all over the all over the area.
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It looks like it's a California Office of Emergency Services.
That's what they call cal OEES. They're the ones who
usually come in for floods and fires and things like that.
That's governors. It's basically run by the Governor's office. And
they are now requesting police officers to rent to put
over at UCLA in twelve hour shifts. They wanted for
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thirty days, rent them from local cities police departments.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, So the interesting thing is is that chiefs are
pushing back, going, well, wait a minute, why is the
request coming from the Governor's office cal OEES and not
from UCLA. And when they try to reach out to UCLA,
no one's given them answer. It's the UCLA Police department
has no idea that they're not running that show. Now
all of a sudden, the Governor's office is involved. They
want to rent local cops to go out there. They
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want to do thirty cops a shift, twelve hour shifts,
So two twelve hour shifts in a day, thirty cops apiece,
and the chiefs are like, we're not putting our people
out there because right now law enforcement is being made
the scapegoat and all of what happened last week. So
they don't want their own cops.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Out there anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So they're gonna because you say, isn't supporting law enforcement? Well,
they're not going to be just hung out to drive.
They're not supporting their own police department. You think they're
going to support outside law enforce? And who would they
be reporting to here? That's the problem. They're going to
be hired by the state, by cal Oees, right and
put it UCLA. And then who's running the operation on
the ground at you exactly? That's the question. So the
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chiefs are asking, well, where's the incident action plan, where's
the communications plan, where's the hierarchy, where's the incident command structure?
That's what they're used to, right, they don't have any
of that in place. They don't know what they're doing.
They just want to rent them, like they're rent a cops. Well,
that's that's not going to end no, and it's not
and that's that's not a good use of those qualified individuals, right,
and they're not trained for this particular situation and they're
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not even following the training from ten years ago. No,
So this is what's going on now as we speak.
It happened over the weekend. I guess there was some
emergency call and the chiefs all got on a call
this morning and I mean an email went out, that
is what I was told. Them went out soliciting for
all of these officers from all these different agencies. And
they're like, no, no, no, we're not just blindly giving our
officers to UCLA. We got to have some answers here.
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So they get on a call this morning and they
start asking around and they realized there's no plan.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They just want their officers. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean they've been caught completely flat footed. Yeah, and
they didn't want to get involved, clearly they didn't. Now
they've been forced to, and they don't know what to
do because they had one ten year old plan that
nobody's looked at or act or gotten trained for in years.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And when I look back at the plan and talking with.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Wade Stern from the president of the Union of the Cops,
he said, it's like everything else. If they would have
just stuck with the plan that was in place ten
years ago. It's not an old plan. It's not an
outdated plan. It's a very effective plan. If they had
just stuck with the plan all along, this would have
been avoided.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Steve, excellent reporting.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thanks when you get more let us know, of course,
Steve Gregory, KFI News. When we come back, We're going
to tell you a story about one one of the
guys who is the ringleader at Columbia, which you believe.
He's forty years old. He lives in a multimillion dollar house,
his dad was a multimillion dollar ad executive, and his
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stepmother is dating John Mellencamp. It's all coming up, true story,
and he's well the ring leaders of the insurgency at Columbia.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
These are not innocent students. We have been infiltrated.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I almost forgot We've got I can't forget this. It's
a big deal. At three o'clock, we're.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Going to have former Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie
Lacy on.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Jackie Lacy will be on the show at three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
She was the DA for eight years and then Georgia
gascon beat her when she ran for a third term.
And that's unleashed holy hell on Los Angeles County. Well,
today Jackie Lacy came out and endorsed Nathan Hakman as
district Attorney against Gascone. Obviously a lot to talk about
with her, and she will be in here at three
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o'clock and coming up in the next segment, I'll tell
you that story about the leader, one of the leaders
of the Columbia Rebellion at Columbia University, and he is
forty years old, his dad is wealthy, his stepmom is
dating John Cougar Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's all true.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let's talk now with Blake Trolley because we had another
bus driver attacked in Los Angeles. This not a metro
bus driver, but there's another system called the dash bus
and she was attacked by, Oh, what do you know,
a homeless person, Blake.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
What's a dash bus? I don't take bus.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Dash bus is a bus operated by the Los Angeles
Department of Transportation, and these are extremely cheap buses. John
to ride, it's fifty cents for the average person to ride,
and then depending on your age. I believe if if
you're elderly, or if you qualify in some other ways,
the fare gets down to about twenty five cents.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, you know, that's why they have cover charges at
clubs and bars to keep the riff raff out.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They could probably charge nothing if they just start, you know,
making a TV show out of everything that's happening on
our transit system. That think the ratings alone will cover
the fare for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They had the metro bus drivers jess basically go on
strike last Friday with a sickout because they're tired of
getting attacked and stabbed. And now this dash bus driver
describe what happened.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, So what we have right now is video that
hit online. It looks like somebody caught video of this
as it was underway, but a homeless woman reportedly attacked
a female driver after refusing to pay, as I mentioned,
the fifty cent fare to ride the La dash bus.
Video begins with the woman that appears she's reaching around
the plexiga plexiglass barrier that protects the driver. The driver
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gets up and the door swings open. The driver starts
pushing the woman out on the sidewalk. All the while
the woman is throwing blows towards the driver. They both
end up down on the sidewalk. The driver's kind of
pushing her back, the woman is continuing to charge her.
At one point, the driver bends down it looks like
to pick something up maybe that belonged to this homeless woman,
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and the woman kind of strikes her from behind, possibly
hitting her in the back of the head. The driver
throws a couple kicks. She's able to get this homeless
woman backed off, and she was able to close the
doors on the homeless woman and keep her off the bus.
The LAPD says that that woman that attack the driver
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may have been under the influence. Oh really, I know,
that's a shockers pretty nice, but and the driver was
treated on scene and released. But yeah, nonetheless, this comes
and this is not part of the metro system. I
want to make that clear, but it still is public
transit in the LA area and it comes, as you mentioned,
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just just days after that sick out.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, the homeless people are everywhere, So any kind of
mass transit, no matter what specific line it is or
what town it's in, is you got to deal with
the homeless people. I just it's unsafe to drive a
bus in this city and in this county. It just
is because there's too many crazy people that the government
doesn't want to round up and put away somewhere.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So who the hell would get on a bus. I'd
be terrified to get on a bus.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Well, it's getting to the point where even the drivers
apparently don't want to drive these buses now. I reached
out to Metro and they had released a statement last week.
They shared it with me this morning. We had our
hands tied for obvious reasons last week with the college protest,
but I had a chance to look at the statement
this morning, and it sounds like they are putting up barriers,
putting more security teams on buses, and they say they
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are looking at a longer term plan which includes the
addition of even more dedicated transit security bus riding teams.
I think the question is will they be able to
do enough to keep these drivers even wanting to work.
I mean, at some point you got to wonder if
drivers are just gonna all out quit. ABC News reported
recently that crimes on MTA properties in LA increase by
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sixty five percent since twenty twenty. Violent crimes between March
of last year and February of this year increased by
more than fifteen percent. An LA bus driver said that
machetes have been pulled, urine has been thrown on them, feces.
This was a quote given to ABC by a bus operator.
And we've seen some of these higher profile cases, including
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that hijacking in March.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Because they let insane people in drug addicts wander the
streets and the only entertainment these people have is to
get on a bus and take.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
A ride around all day. What else are they going
to do? You know.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Besides, even if they protect they can encase the bus
drivers in bulletproof iron containers, right cages. What are passengers
supposed to do because eventually these crazy people will just
start turning on the passengers.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
So well, exactly, And we just saw that tragedy on
the metro line in Studio City, that security guard going home,
she gets stabbed in the neck, you know. So yeah,
that's a valid question, you know. Of course, the drivers
have a union backing them up. There's no writers' union
pushing for expanded safety for writers. And I can't speak
as much to the bus system, but I imagine it's similar
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to the metro rail system. Where we get these high
profile crimes. Every single person we go and talk to
as soon as one of these happens, and you know
we've aired this on your show a million times, they
all say that they're worried to use the system.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well, it's it's insanely dangerous. I mean, I just cannot
get over there's literally tens of thousands of mental patients
and drug addicts wandering around the streets and the only
way they can get around, even if they even if
they know what they're doing, I have a feeling they
probably just wander on the buses just at a boredom.
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Right now they're in a trapped metal tube with a
crazy person or a drug addict who's on god knows
what and might be hallucinating.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I there's no reason to ever do that none, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
One of the one of the things the union representing
these drivers is asking for John and this is really telling,
especially when you see this this latest fight they were
they're calling for Metro to put an emergency door on
the left side of the bus so that the driver
can essentially get out without having to go through the
barrier that walk down that down staircase that all buses have,
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so they're they're really trying to get the eject button
put in these things.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
All right, very good, Blake, thanks for coming on. All right,
thanks John Blake, Charlie KFIE news. Another bus driver attacked
in Los Angeles. All okay, well, come back and finally
get to the story about the rich kid.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Another rich kid.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And he was one of the big organizers of the
Columbia protests for the terrorists Hamas and he's a terrorist
all by himself. Millionaire at the age of forty inherited money.
Another one of these guys. So we're in species.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We've got Jackie Lacy, the former La County DA, coming
on after three o'clock. She's endorsing Nathan Hackman, she lost
to Gascone running for a third term. She wants Hawkman
to beat Gascone this November. Coming up at two o'clock
in just a few minutes, John Coopaul from the Howard
Jarvis Taxpayers Association. There is a huge case before the
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California Supreme Court over a ballot initiative which could be
on the ballot this year. Can we vote to change
the law, and the public would have the final say
on state tax increases. The public, not the legislature or
not the governor. The public would decide whether we raise
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our taxes. We'll give you all the details coming up
at two o'clock. So Columbia University, they had the big
pro terrorist Prohamas riots and one of the leaders is
a guy named James Carlson. You're just not going to
believe the story. They think thirty percent of the protesters
who stormed Hamilton Hall, the administration building were not Columbia students.
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Thirty percent. One of them James Carlson, also known as
Cody Carlson, also known as Cody Tarlow. You know, when
you have three names, two aliases, you're usually trouble. He
is known as a longtime anarchist. According to police sources,
this guy's forty years old. He's He's got a three
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thousand square foot, three story townhouse with four wood burning
fireplaces and a carrier ouse in Brooklyn, worth over two
point three million dollars. Where does he get his money? Well,
his parents, Dick Tarlow and Sandy Carlson Tarlow, ran a
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huge advertising business. They took in one hundred and sixty
five million dollars. It was called Carlson and Partners. They
sold it in two thousand and one and Dick Tarlow
and his and Sandy Tarlow did work for Revlon, Ralph
laren Queasin Arnt and Pottery Barn. In fact, Sandy the
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wife was known as the public face of Ralph Louren.
Now she died over twenty years ago at the age
of fifty nine. Dick Tarlow died two years ago, left
an estate worth twenty million dollars. Obviously a lot of
this money went to his son and he grew up
in luxury all his life. Richard Carlson has two children,
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one with some blonde bombshell model named Kim Hayman and
then his stepmother see Dick Tarlow. The dad had a
second wife, the Trophy Wife, and she is now dating
John Mellencamp. But this is the background that James Carlson
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comes from. He's got a long track record of criminality.
In two thousand and five, he was charged in San
Francisco for his work with the West Coast Anti Capitalist
Mobilization and March against the g eight, where police officers
cracked up where protesters cracked a police officer's skull almost
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killed him, and then they tried to set a police
car on fire. Now, in two thousand and five, get this,
he was charged with suspicion of attempted lynching, malicious mischief,
battery to a police officer, aggravated assault on a police
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officer with a deadly weapon, willful resistance to a police
officer that results in serious bodi of the injury. All
that no time in jail because the charges were dropped
in two thousand and seven. Remember I said this happened
in San Francisco. So he did all of that and
got away with it no consequences.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
In fact, obviously he's lived a life of no consequences.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So of course, at the age of forty, he's in
the middle of this Columbia riot because that's what he does. Meantime,
his stepmom is running around with rock stars, and his
mom and dad are dead and left them a fortune.
What is it with rich kids who become anarchists, and
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they become anarchists while they're still rich. It's not like
they renounced the wealthy lifestyle. Because I've read a number
of these a number of these characters their life story
at Columbia. They also charged Carlson with a hate crime
assault in petty larceny, he lit an Israeli supporter's flag
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on fire, and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He hit.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
A twenty two year old in the face with a
rock during an April protest. He also was part of
a protest at blocked traffic at the Holland Tunnel, the
Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, and the Williamsburg Bridge. Same guy,
forty years old. His townhouse is now where I mentioned.
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He bought it for two point three it's now worth
three point four million dollars. And he's a professional anarchist
and he stirs up the college students. Ironically, his dad
was a supporter of the John Jay College of Criminal
Justice and he underwrote the John Jay Justice Awards. The
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Carlson has no leaks to Columbia. He's an anarchist, kind
of a freelancer and joins whatever. The protest of the
day is that they think he's a leader. One of
the police offers said, I observed Carlson inside the location
with others, doors with shattered windows, doors off hinges, broken desks,
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exits blockaded by piled up chairs, while he was in
his holding cell, he destroyed a camera that was pointed
at him. I know there's some psychological process going on here. Actually,
when I get some time, I want to scour the
internet and see any, if any research has been done
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on these weird, wealthy kids, because they populate ANTIFA up
in Oregon. I remember when there was a nasty protest
crew in Echo Lake or what is it's Echo Park Lake, right,
Echo Park Lake? Remember that those two hundred homeless people,
and there was an activist group insisting that the homeless
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people stay in Echo Park Lake, and they were terrorizing
the local neighbors. And among the terrorists was a kid
who lived in a wealthy Silver Lake mansion and his
dad was either a producer or director in Hollywood who
won an oscar.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
So these are the most privileged.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And they go insane, they lose their minds, and they're
the heart of the anarchist movement because they've got so
much money they've inherited from their parents, or their parents
have them, their parents are subsidizing them. It's such a
great degree that they can afford to spend all day
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plotting these public events. We come back, we're going to
talk with John Coopaul. The California Supreme Court is doing
a ruling very quickly. There is a proposed measure to
be on the ballot that would allow the public to
decide if state taxes would go up, rather than leave
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it to the legislature and the governor. The legislature and
the governor would no longer have the ability to increase taxes.
You imagine this, and it would require statewide voter approval
for these state tax increases. John Coupaul is going to
explain the deal when we come back. Debor Mark Live
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app on a very busy, eventful day. Good Lord, you
might have heard that Israel decided to give the finger
to the rest of the world and they're rolling into Rafa,
into Gaza and they're gonna do what they're gonna do.
So there's no peace agreement, no ceasefire, and that story
(00:24):
is changing about every ten minutes. So the next thing
that happens, you'll hear it here. Devor's on alert. She's
perched as a receipt.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I didn't even get a chance to chat with you
before the show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I know there's too much going on. And then you
have the protests here in America, which as each day
goes by, there's more fascinating information about who's behind the protest,
who's funding them, what characters are instigating them. We'll get
to all that. And then we have Steve Gregory here
because if you notice that UCLA to be absolutely no coherent,
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effective response from campus police or anybody else in the administration,
and Steve is going to tell us maybe what should
have happened. Yeah, So something that is called the Robinson
Italy Report from February twenty fourteen. I was made aware
of this over the weekend and actually provided a copy
of this one hundred and four page report that was
created by a Blue Ribbon panel and it was in
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response to the need for a more universal approach to
campus civil unrest and civil disobedience.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And this was all done through the UC system.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
At the time, the president of the UC system was
Janet Neapolitano, and so each of the campuses had to
come up with, you know, some of the deficiencies that
they recognized and some of the things that they're going
to do to help, you know, to help fix those deficiencies,
and what can the university system do as a whole
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to address these kinds of problems. So when I was
made aware of this over the weekend, I reached out
and successfully was able to get an interview with the
president of the union that represents the University of California
police officers. There's about two hundred and fifty in the
system of the ten campuses, and I had a really
long chat with him, and in the middle of our
(02:18):
conversation news broke. The Chancellor Block at UCLA had created
a new office of campus Safety and appointed an advisory
committee and all these things, all this stuff, and right
in the middle of my interview, and I said, wait,
this is just coming through here.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
This was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I talked to him on a Sunday and the chancellor
sent it out on a Sunday, and I'm like, this
is odd. So I asked, Wade Stern is his name?
I said, Wade. He said, this is news to me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Wade Stern is an officer at UC Riverside, so he's
in the UC system. He's also a member of their system,
my response team, which we'll talk about in a second.
And he's the president of the union, so he's pretty
well entrenched in this operation, in this culture. He knows
what's happening. The bottom line is UCLA did not follow
the rules, did not follow the protocols and the mandates
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issued by the president of the university back in twenty fourteen.
They all work from this model, this Robinson Edley Report.
All the police departments work from this model. And I
was going to go through this a little bit by
bit because each of the universities has a section in
the big Report, and I've got the UCLA version right here.
And also from this report, there were forty nine recommendations
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offered to all the police departments, and you know what
one of the biggest ones was is that there should
always be an attempt to use the college police departments
first before.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Calling in any outside agencies.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And those decisions come from the top and or an
incident commander on the ground. So in this cut here
I wanted to play. This is a Wade Stern cut
a He talks a little bit about how the decisions
are made in a little bit of perplexing decisions made
leading up to those events of last week.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
The university itself, I don't know what they're guided by
and how they make those decisions. I think oftentimes they
want to try to solve the problems themselves, which is
fine most of the times. But the warning signs were
all there right when they started to fortify the encampment,
when video from up above showed them gathering fire extinguishers,
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PPE and other items. Those are telling signs that they're
preparing for something. And so why they chose to wait
to go into there, You'll have to ask the heaven.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was obvious.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's really still after all these days, astonishing that there
was no response. I guess he's just as flabbergasted as
everybody else. Yeah, and here then and cut b. He
talks about the system Mind Response Team. This, this is
a team of officers within that UC police system that
(05:04):
are specially trained to handle protests and handle these de
escalation situations. And he talks a little bit about the
SRT team.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They're able to respond to civil disobedience and civil unrest
on our campuses.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's what we're trained for.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
We are guided by the Robinson Edley Report along with
our community safety plan that's been put together by the
university itself, the Office of the President. At the time
our SRT team prior to had been called police did
ask for our officers to respond for an SRT call out,
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and then it was canceled twice twice.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, and no reason given none.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They can't. They don't even know who made the call.
They don't even know who made the decision. And so
when we try to find out, all we get are these,
you know, these really slick looking statements. That's all we get. Statements.
I don't even know if ever going to give a
press conference about this.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The bureaucratic gibberish.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, speaking of that then this new Office of Campus
Safety is just another added layer of bureaucracy too. Now
in this kind of here, it's a little longer, but
I wanted to play for you. Now this is about
the new announcement of this public safety, new campus safety office,
and it's just really kind of interesting because it even
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baffles Wade Stern.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So this is now trying to take police out of
the direct hands of the vice chancellor, which is executive leadership.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
At the campus.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And so now what you're going to have is is
you're going to have a chief that is going to
report to this guy who's going to report to a
vice chancellor who's going to report to the chancellor.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
More bureaucracy, more bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What you're going to have is you have a chief
that you've been trusted, right, that has over thirty years
experience in law enforcement, that you hired to handle law enforcement,
you know, on campus and safety on campus. And now
you're bringing in another person with the same amount of experience.
Because the chief over at UCLA oversees the police department
and emergency management. So you're bringing in somebody else with
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thirty year years of experience to oversee the chief and
Emergency Services. I don't understand. I'm trying to make sense
of that.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Does it sound more like an ass covering move than
more of a tactical move.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I mean the timing of this doesn't look good, right, No, go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Ahead, Well, it's none of this has None of these
were safety decisions. These were political decisions because they were
either afraid of the protesters, or perhaps they agreed with
the protesters and they weren't about to do anything to
to to mitigate their protests. They were they weren't going
to destroy the encampment or remove these people or get
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them to behave in a more peaceful way. I think
they were rooting them on either that or they're terrified
to death. What I'd love to see is a phone
log of how many calls Jean Block got over that
last week and who he got the calls from. Yeah,
who was pressing him not to do anything, or to
do something or to find this right exactly? Well, it
(08:18):
became untenable eventually. It was crazy violence that night when
the Israeli protesters challenged the Palestinian protesters, and now you
had civil war going on. But leading up to that,
clearly there was a reluctance, a defiance really to close
down that those encampments.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The thing is is these these and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I've got a lot more here. So I got breaking
news too about all of this. I don't know if
I'm allowed to say it, but I'm going to check
during the break. Well, you got to tell me, I
tell you. But if I can say anything, all right,
all right, we'll find out possible breaking news. Where do
you have to get permission from? As long as I
say it's okay, I am, the supreme permission gives it
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work that way.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
John Cobelt Show, I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
We got Steve Gregory from CAFI News here and last segment,
we talked about how UCLA did not use the protocol
that the uc system put out in twenty fourteen to
deal with the kind of situation that happened last week
with the protest and the tents and everything. Yeah, so
when you look at all these things, these protocols that
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came up with, including using the UCLA's school police first,
the system response team from all the school universities, using
all them first, they instead jumped over them and went
right into the local cops. And what I got there
now is that every chancellor from every university had to
sort of sign this allegiance letter, if you will, agreeing
(09:51):
to all of these protocols and procedures back from twenty fourteen.
This is dated October twenty third, twenty thirteen. It was
to President Janet Apolitano, she was the U president at
the time. And it's from Gene Block, the chancellor at UCLA,
and he writes, I hereby certify that all of the
Robinson Edley report recommendations that were finalized and accepted have
been implemented or in the process of being implemented at
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the UCLA.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
At UCLA that might have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Been true in October twenty third was not true last
week at all. Right, And what's interesting about these recommendations
forty nine recommendations which also include all administration and leadership
going through the same training as the cops when it
comes to de escalation in crowd management. I heard any
report they haven't been doing training since twenty twenty. They
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cut the budget, probably a response to all the George
Floyd to fund.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The police area.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, possibly, but so they've had no and there's probably
been turnover both in the police department and an administration.
But they're supposed to be doing that training every year.
Well you got to be reminded of it. Well, yeah,
it's a perishable skill unless you've got protests every day.
But in this particular case, now officers they have to
go through the States standards too, that's post peace Officer
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standards and training, so they have to go through the
minimum amount of training to become a peace officer. And
they're all peace officers. But there's a different dynamic and
a different environment and culture on a college campus, So
approaches to protests are going to be a little different
than they are in downtown Los Angeles, right, because you're
dealing with students and you're dealing with a whole different
kind of mindset. And so that's why this SRT, this
(11:23):
system wide Response team is more qualified, if you will,
to go in at least in the initial stages. Do
you know if they understood they were dealing with outside
agitators as well, and dealing with professionals who were organizing
and orchestrating this. I will tell you based on my
conversations with law enforcement and my experience, leadership thought they
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were all students. Cops knew they weren't. If you think
about it, cops know the difference, and they can spot
it a mile away. They know the difference between a
student who's just trying to stand up for principal and
someone who's out there to cause chaos.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They know the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, the supplies, they had, the logistics even, I know
the difference. I've been covering protests for years, right, so
you can tell right away when it's a professional operation.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean most of the students don't cover up their faces. Yeah,
you know. And you heard about the banana allergy, right,
I heard something about that, But what was that story?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So on the campus at U c l A, someone
declared they had a banana allergy within that compound, that encampment,
So everyone that was a member of that encampment had
to go over and sort of, you know, sign off
or confirm they were not holding any banana product. So,
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I mean, that's how bad it got. That's how bad
it got. So now I've never heard You want to
know what happened over the break? Okay, yes, you you
You got a text while we were talking, and then
you checked out the circumstances here, So what's the news. Yeah,
so it looks like there was a call this morning
involving police chiefs from all over the all over the area.
(12:59):
It looks like it's a California Office of Emergency Services.
That's what they call cal OEES. They're the ones who
usually come in for floods and fires and things like that.
That's governors. It's basically run by the Governor's office. And
they are now requesting police officers to rent to put
over at UCLA in twelve hour shifts. They wanted for
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thirty days, rent them from local cities police departments.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, So the interesting thing is is that chiefs are
pushing back, going, well, wait a minute, why is the
request coming from the Governor's office cal OEES and not
from UCLA. And when they try to reach out to UCLA,
no one's given them answer. It's the UCLA Police department
has no idea that they're not running that show. Now
all of a sudden, the Governor's office is involved. They
want to rent local cops to go out there. They
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want to do thirty cops a shift, twelve hour shifts,
So two twelve hour shifts in a day, thirty cops apiece,
and the chiefs are like, we're not putting our people
out there because right now law enforcement is being made
the scapegoat and all of what happened last week. So
they don't want their own cops.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Out there anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So they're gonna because you say, isn't supporting law enforcement? Well,
they're not going to be just hung out to drive.
They're not supporting their own police department. You think they're
going to support outside law enforce? And who would they
be reporting to here? That's the problem. They're going to
be hired by the state, by cal Oees, right and
put it UCLA. And then who's running the operation on
the ground at you exactly? That's the question. So the
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chiefs are asking, well, where's the incident action plan, where's
the communications plan, where's the hierarchy, where's the incident command structure?
That's what they're used to, right, they don't have any
of that in place. They don't know what they're doing.
They just want to rent them, like they're rent a cops. Well,
that's that's not going to end no, and it's not
and that's that's not a good use of those qualified individuals, right,
and they're not trained for this particular situation and they're
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not even following the training from ten years ago. No,
So this is what's going on now as we speak.
It happened over the weekend. I guess there was some
emergency call and the chiefs all got on a call
this morning and I mean an email went out, that
is what I was told. Them went out soliciting for
all of these officers from all these different agencies. And
they're like, no, no, no, we're not just blindly giving our
officers to UCLA. We got to have some answers here.
(15:08):
So they get on a call this morning and they
start asking around and they realized there's no plan.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They just want their officers. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean they've been caught completely flat footed. Yeah, and
they didn't want to get involved, clearly they didn't. Now
they've been forced to, and they don't know what to
do because they had one ten year old plan that
nobody's looked at or act or gotten trained for in years.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And when I look back at the plan and talking with.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Wade Stern from the president of the Union of the Cops,
he said, it's like everything else. If they would have
just stuck with the plan that was in place ten
years ago. It's not an old plan. It's not an
outdated plan. It's a very effective plan. If they had
just stuck with the plan all along, this would have
been avoided.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Steve, excellent reporting.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thanks when you get more let us know, of course,
Steve Gregory, KFI News. When we come back, We're going
to tell you a story about one one of the
guys who is the ringleader at Columbia, which you believe.
He's forty years old. He lives in a multimillion dollar house,
his dad was a multimillion dollar ad executive, and his
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stepmother is dating John Mellencamp. It's all coming up, true story,
and he's well the ring leaders of the insurgency at Columbia.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
These are not innocent students. We have been infiltrated.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I almost forgot We've got I can't forget this. It's
a big deal. At three o'clock, we're.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Going to have former Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie
Lacy on.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Jackie Lacy will be on the show at three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
She was the DA for eight years and then Georgia
gascon beat her when she ran for a third term.
And that's unleashed holy hell on Los Angeles County. Well,
today Jackie Lacy came out and endorsed Nathan Hakman as
district Attorney against Gascone. Obviously a lot to talk about
with her, and she will be in here at three
(17:07):
o'clock and coming up in the next segment, I'll tell
you that story about the leader, one of the leaders
of the Columbia Rebellion at Columbia University, and he is
forty years old, his dad is wealthy, his stepmom is
dating John Cougar Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's all true.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let's talk now with Blake Trolley because we had another
bus driver attacked in Los Angeles. This not a metro
bus driver, but there's another system called the dash bus
and she was attacked by, Oh, what do you know,
a homeless person, Blake.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
What's a dash bus? I don't take bus.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Dash bus is a bus operated by the Los Angeles
Department of Transportation, and these are extremely cheap buses. John
to ride, it's fifty cents for the average person to ride,
and then depending on your age. I believe if if
you're elderly, or if you qualify in some other ways,
the fare gets down to about twenty five cents.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, you know, that's why they have cover charges at
clubs and bars to keep the riff raff out.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They could probably charge nothing if they just start, you know,
making a TV show out of everything that's happening on
our transit system. That think the ratings alone will cover
the fare for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They had the metro bus drivers jess basically go on
strike last Friday with a sickout because they're tired of
getting attacked and stabbed. And now this dash bus driver
describe what happened.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, So what we have right now is video that
hit online. It looks like somebody caught video of this
as it was underway, but a homeless woman reportedly attacked
a female driver after refusing to pay, as I mentioned,
the fifty cent fare to ride the La dash bus.
Video begins with the woman that appears she's reaching around
the plexiga plexiglass barrier that protects the driver. The driver
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gets up and the door swings open. The driver starts
pushing the woman out on the sidewalk. All the while
the woman is throwing blows towards the driver. They both
end up down on the sidewalk. The driver's kind of
pushing her back, the woman is continuing to charge her.
At one point, the driver bends down it looks like
to pick something up maybe that belonged to this homeless woman,
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and the woman kind of strikes her from behind, possibly
hitting her in the back of the head. The driver
throws a couple kicks. She's able to get this homeless
woman backed off, and she was able to close the
doors on the homeless woman and keep her off the bus.
The LAPD says that that woman that attack the driver
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may have been under the influence. Oh really, I know,
that's a shockers pretty nice, but and the driver was
treated on scene and released. But yeah, nonetheless, this comes
and this is not part of the metro system. I
want to make that clear, but it still is public
transit in the LA area and it comes, as you mentioned,
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just just days after that sick out.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, the homeless people are everywhere, So any kind of
mass transit, no matter what specific line it is or
what town it's in, is you got to deal with
the homeless people. I just it's unsafe to drive a
bus in this city and in this county. It just
is because there's too many crazy people that the government
doesn't want to round up and put away somewhere.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So who the hell would get on a bus. I'd
be terrified to get on a bus.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Well, it's getting to the point where even the drivers
apparently don't want to drive these buses now. I reached
out to Metro and they had released a statement last week.
They shared it with me this morning. We had our
hands tied for obvious reasons last week with the college protest,
but I had a chance to look at the statement
this morning, and it sounds like they are putting up barriers,
putting more security teams on buses, and they say they
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are looking at a longer term plan which includes the
addition of even more dedicated transit security bus riding teams.
I think the question is will they be able to
do enough to keep these drivers even wanting to work.
I mean, at some point you got to wonder if
drivers are just gonna all out quit. ABC News reported
recently that crimes on MTA properties in LA increase by
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sixty five percent since twenty twenty. Violent crimes between March
of last year and February of this year increased by
more than fifteen percent. An LA bus driver said that
machetes have been pulled, urine has been thrown on them, feces.
This was a quote given to ABC by a bus operator.
And we've seen some of these higher profile cases, including
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that hijacking in March.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Because they let insane people in drug addicts wander the
streets and the only entertainment these people have is to
get on a bus and take.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
A ride around all day. What else are they going
to do? You know.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Besides, even if they protect they can encase the bus
drivers in bulletproof iron containers, right cages. What are passengers
supposed to do because eventually these crazy people will just
start turning on the passengers.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
So well, exactly, And we just saw that tragedy on
the metro line in Studio City, that security guard going home,
she gets stabbed in the neck, you know. So yeah,
that's a valid question, you know. Of course, the drivers
have a union backing them up. There's no writers' union
pushing for expanded safety for writers. And I can't speak
as much to the bus system, but I imagine it's similar
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to the metro rail system. Where we get these high
profile crimes. Every single person we go and talk to
as soon as one of these happens, and you know
we've aired this on your show a million times, they
all say that they're worried to use the system.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well, it's it's insanely dangerous. I mean, I just cannot
get over there's literally tens of thousands of mental patients
and drug addicts wandering around the streets and the only
way they can get around, even if they even if
they know what they're doing, I have a feeling they
probably just wander on the buses just at a boredom.
(23:06):
Right now they're in a trapped metal tube with a
crazy person or a drug addict who's on god knows
what and might be hallucinating.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I there's no reason to ever do that none, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
One of the one of the things the union representing
these drivers is asking for John and this is really telling,
especially when you see this this latest fight they were
they're calling for Metro to put an emergency door on
the left side of the bus so that the driver
can essentially get out without having to go through the
barrier that walk down that down staircase that all buses have,
(23:42):
so they're they're really trying to get the eject button
put in these things.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
All right, very good, Blake, thanks for coming on. All right,
thanks John Blake, Charlie KFIE news. Another bus driver attacked
in Los Angeles. All okay, well, come back and finally
get to the story about the rich kid.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Another rich kid.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And he was one of the big organizers of the
Columbia protests for the terrorists Hamas and he's a terrorist
all by himself. Millionaire at the age of forty inherited money.
Another one of these guys. So we're in species.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We've got Jackie Lacy, the former La County DA, coming
on after three o'clock. She's endorsing Nathan Hackman, she lost
to Gascone running for a third term. She wants Hawkman
to beat Gascone this November. Coming up at two o'clock
in just a few minutes, John Coopaul from the Howard
Jarvis Taxpayers Association. There is a huge case before the
(24:47):
California Supreme Court over a ballot initiative which could be
on the ballot this year. Can we vote to change
the law, and the public would have the final say
on state tax increases. The public, not the legislature or
not the governor. The public would decide whether we raise
(25:08):
our taxes. We'll give you all the details coming up
at two o'clock. So Columbia University, they had the big
pro terrorist Prohamas riots and one of the leaders is
a guy named James Carlson. You're just not going to
believe the story. They think thirty percent of the protesters
who stormed Hamilton Hall, the administration building were not Columbia students.
(25:30):
Thirty percent. One of them James Carlson, also known as
Cody Carlson, also known as Cody Tarlow. You know, when
you have three names, two aliases, you're usually trouble. He
is known as a longtime anarchist. According to police sources,
this guy's forty years old. He's He's got a three
(25:53):
thousand square foot, three story townhouse with four wood burning
fireplaces and a carrier ouse in Brooklyn, worth over two
point three million dollars. Where does he get his money? Well,
his parents, Dick Tarlow and Sandy Carlson Tarlow, ran a
(26:14):
huge advertising business. They took in one hundred and sixty
five million dollars. It was called Carlson and Partners. They
sold it in two thousand and one and Dick Tarlow
and his and Sandy Tarlow did work for Revlon, Ralph
laren Queasin Arnt and Pottery Barn. In fact, Sandy the
(26:35):
wife was known as the public face of Ralph Louren.
Now she died over twenty years ago at the age
of fifty nine. Dick Tarlow died two years ago, left
an estate worth twenty million dollars. Obviously a lot of
this money went to his son and he grew up
in luxury all his life. Richard Carlson has two children,
(27:00):
one with some blonde bombshell model named Kim Hayman and
then his stepmother see Dick Tarlow. The dad had a
second wife, the Trophy Wife, and she is now dating
John Mellencamp. But this is the background that James Carlson
(27:20):
comes from. He's got a long track record of criminality.
In two thousand and five, he was charged in San
Francisco for his work with the West Coast Anti Capitalist
Mobilization and March against the g eight, where police officers
cracked up where protesters cracked a police officer's skull almost
(27:45):
killed him, and then they tried to set a police
car on fire. Now, in two thousand and five, get this,
he was charged with suspicion of attempted lynching, malicious mischief,
battery to a police officer, aggravated assault on a police
(28:05):
officer with a deadly weapon, willful resistance to a police
officer that results in serious bodi of the injury. All
that no time in jail because the charges were dropped
in two thousand and seven. Remember I said this happened
in San Francisco. So he did all of that and
got away with it no consequences.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
In fact, obviously he's lived a life of no consequences.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So of course, at the age of forty, he's in
the middle of this Columbia riot because that's what he does. Meantime,
his stepmom is running around with rock stars, and his
mom and dad are dead and left them a fortune.
What is it with rich kids who become anarchists, and
(28:54):
they become anarchists while they're still rich. It's not like
they renounced the wealthy lifestyle. Because I've read a number
of these a number of these characters their life story
at Columbia. They also charged Carlson with a hate crime
assault in petty larceny, he lit an Israeli supporter's flag
(29:17):
on fire, and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He hit.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
A twenty two year old in the face with a
rock during an April protest. He also was part of
a protest at blocked traffic at the Holland Tunnel, the
Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, and the Williamsburg Bridge. Same guy,
forty years old. His townhouse is now where I mentioned.
(29:43):
He bought it for two point three it's now worth
three point four million dollars. And he's a professional anarchist
and he stirs up the college students. Ironically, his dad
was a supporter of the John Jay College of Criminal
Justice and he underwrote the John Jay Justice Awards. The
(30:05):
Carlson has no leaks to Columbia. He's an anarchist, kind
of a freelancer and joins whatever. The protest of the
day is that they think he's a leader. One of
the police offers said, I observed Carlson inside the location
with others, doors with shattered windows, doors off hinges, broken desks,
(30:28):
exits blockaded by piled up chairs, while he was in
his holding cell, he destroyed a camera that was pointed
at him. I know there's some psychological process going on here. Actually,
when I get some time, I want to scour the
internet and see any, if any research has been done
(30:51):
on these weird, wealthy kids, because they populate ANTIFA up
in Oregon. I remember when there was a nasty protest
crew in Echo Lake or what is it's Echo Park Lake, right,
Echo Park Lake? Remember that those two hundred homeless people,
and there was an activist group insisting that the homeless
(31:13):
people stay in Echo Park Lake, and they were terrorizing
the local neighbors. And among the terrorists was a kid
who lived in a wealthy Silver Lake mansion and his
dad was either a producer or director in Hollywood who
won an oscar.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
So these are the most privileged.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And they go insane, they lose their minds, and they're
the heart of the anarchist movement because they've got so
much money they've inherited from their parents, or their parents
have them, their parents are subsidizing them. It's such a
great degree that they can afford to spend all day
(31:57):
plotting these public events. We come back, we're going to
talk with John Coopaul. The California Supreme Court is doing
a ruling very quickly. There is a proposed measure to
be on the ballot that would allow the public to
decide if state taxes would go up, rather than leave
(32:21):
it to the legislature and the governor. The legislature and
the governor would no longer have the ability to increase taxes.
You imagine this, and it would require statewide voter approval
for these state tax increases. John Coupaul is going to
explain the deal when we come back. Debor Mark Live
(32:42):
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