May 22, 2024 • 31 mins
Peter Charalambous joins the show with updates on the Trump "Hush Money" Trial. Two victims from the rape dungeon van come forward. More on Bill Essayli's bill that would allow California law enforcement to help facilitate the deportation of convicted child sex predators who are illegal immigrants. 300 Boeing planes used by United and American Airlines have a potential fatal flaw.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right. We are going.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
To get into the aftermath of yesterday's attempt by Assemblyman
Bill Sale from the Inland Empire to get the Assembly
to pass a law that would empower law enforcement to
deport convicted illegal alien child rapists and other child sex fiends.
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These are men attacking children and teens sexually viciously raping them.
In fact, we have a new one to add to
the list that we talked about yesterday, and we're gonna
go after now, one by one the assembly people locally
here in LA and Orange County who voted no or
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voted abstained from voting to block this thing, especially one
woman in particular, who was really rude and obnoxious to
Bill Saley over this bill. Why this woman would get
angry over trying to deport a legal alien child rapist,
I don't know, but we'll talk about her and her
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district and her last election coming up. Right now, let's
talk to Peter Harlambus from ABC News. He's been covering
the Trump trial and the witness The witness portion of
the trial ended yesterday and then the attorneys and the
judge started haggling over jury instructions and on Tuesday, supposedly
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there's going to be closing arguments for both sides. We
will talk now with Peter and see what the last
witnesses like. Peter, how are.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You hey, John? Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I well, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So the one that caused the most fireworks and testifying
on behalf of the defense was Robert Carstello. Robert Costello,
former federal prosecutor, and he was brought to make Michael
Cohen look like Coin is a liar?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Can he explain what happened?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah? So Costello was one of the two defense witnesses.
He took a stand on Monday. Defense lawyers had hoped
to use his testimony to impeach the testimony of Michael Cohen. Basically,
Costello served as a legal advisor to Cohen. In twenty eighteen,
after the FBI had rated Cohen's home in office, Costello
and Cohen met over a variety of meetings and phone
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calls to discuss Cohen's legal strategy, though Costello never formally
became Cohen's lawyer. According to Costello, Cohen told him in
twenty eighteen that Donald Trump had nothing to do with
the Stormy Daniels hush money payment, that he was unaware,
and that Cohen did it all on his own. That
could here at contradict Cohen's testimony that Donald Trump was
deeply involved in that hush money payment ahead of at
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twenty sixteen in election. Where it gets to be confusing, though,
is the fact that Cohen told jurors on the witness
stand that he lied to Costell in twenty eighteen that
when he said that Donald Trump knew nothing about those
hush money payments, it was a lie, that he was
trying to protect Trump and that he didn't trust Costello.
So it's a bit confusing and not necessarily cut in
dry for this jury. But defense lawyers have been hammering
at Cohen since day one, saying he's a liar, he's
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a thief, he simply can't be trusted. And Costello offered
some testimony to add to that. Kind of growing pile
of testimony that goes against Cohen's credibility in the case.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He admitted to being a thief, that he stole money
from the Trump organization that he was never prosecuted for.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, that's right. So Cohen testified that he over requested
thirty thousand dollars for a reimbursement, that he knew he
was stealing from his company, he never paid that money back,
and that he's never been charged for any crime related
to it. The prosecutors tried to get that out on
direct examination, trying to get ahead of it, but defence
lawyers really hammered at that point, using it to go
after Cohen's credibility, painting him is not only a liar,
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but a thief, which is coin something which is something
that Coan admitted, the fact that he's made those mistakes
in the past. It's unclear how much of the testimony
the jury doesn't believe from Cohen will have to see
over the coming days how much of Cohen's testimony they trust.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't know what you do with a guy who
admits that he lies and steals, but right now he's
not lying.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So prosecutors have tried to argue that Cohen is kind
of has repented for his crimes in the past, and
he's trying to do the right thing now that all
those past lies in the past and the stealing happened
when he was working for Trump, when he was loyal
to Trump. But it's really not a black and white
issue in the way. There's a lot of gray here
in that there's some testimony and evidence to back up
what's Coen is saying. There are other times when defence
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lawyers have seemingly caught Coen and what they say is
a lie. For example, there was a big sticking point
on last week's testimony that Cohen talked about a major
phone call on our October twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, with Trump,
where they confirmed the plan to go forward with that
Stormy Daniels hush money payment. Defense lawyers came with evidence
actually suggesting that phone call was Cohen complaining about a
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prank caller who'd been blowing up his phone to Trump's bodyguard.
Cohen refused to say that his testimony was a liar
and consistent stood by what he originally said, but it
left at times damning impression of Cohen in the minds
of the sorry in front of this jury. So we'll
see what they necessarily believe in what they don't as
they head into deliberations, which could begin as early as Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Is Cohen the only witnesses the only witness that specifically
ties Trump to this plot to pay off Stormy Daniels?
Is he the only one with the details about it?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So Cohen's the only one who's talked about this his
actions in depth with Trump ahead of the twenty sixteen election.
Other witnesses have talked about the paper trail, the checks,
the invoices. Hopepis, the former White House communications director, testified
that Trump told her that he preferred the story come
out after the twenty sixteen election, and that he spoke
with added that payment was being made, that Con was
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making a quote out of the kindness of his heart.
But really, Con is the star witness here. His testimony
really sits at the center of the case, and issues
with his credibility could spell a major problem for prosecutors.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Now, going back to Robert Costello, the attorney who said
Coin was lying, he got into a few problems with
the judge.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, Honestly, the most dramatic and kind of shocking moment
of this entire trial came during Costello's testimony. The judge
accused Costello of staring him down, giving him side eye,
responding audibly to some of the judge's rulings when it
came to objections. The judge at one point cleared the
jury from the courtroom and gave Costello a lecture on
courtroom tocorram courtroom decorum. When Costello then stared down the judge,
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he simply had enough. The judge cleared the courtroom of
the sixty members of the press and basically told Costello
that his conduct was bordering on contempt and that if
he did it again, he'd be kicked off the witness stand.
We've never seen any kind of any level of that
frustration from the judge in this trial before. It was
kind of stunning to see in person.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So they've hashed out the jury instructions. Is anybody aware
of what the instructions will be or you have to
wait till Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We're still piecing together what the instructions might be. The
press doesn't have access to the proposed charge. We think
the charge will be finalized by the judge tomorrow, but
we were present for the charging conference yesterday, which kind
of gave us a sense of what Marshaan is thinking.
Mirshan has suggested he wants to make this as clear
as possible for the jury. He wants to stick to
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the standard jury instructions for these crimes. Basically, in order
to convict Trump, the jury will have to believe beyond
the reasonable doubt that Trump knowingly falsified documents that he
did that in furtherance of another crime. The prosecutors don't
need to specify what that other crime was. The jury
doesn't have to believe that Trump actually committed that other crime.
So it's a very interesting standard.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wait, wait, go do that again. I mean, I've heard
this before and I don't understand added. The prosecutors don't
have to specify the crime that these uh that that
these misdemeanors were in service of the misdemeanors were falsifying
the records, right, But the reason there's a felony is
he was falsifying the records in order to commit this
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second crime. But they don't have to explain what the
second crime is, and they don't have to prove that
Trump actually committed the second crime.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, so we'll hear more about this with certainty once
we see or hear the charge over the coming days.
But it seems as though the legal standard here is
just this two prong tests. One, did Donald Trump knowingly
falsify these documents, both either by signing the document or
causing someone else, for example, an accountant in the Trump
organization to falsify them for him. That's prong one. Prong
two is whether or not these documents were falsified in
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furtherance of another crime. Now, prosecutors have suggested those other
crimes could be a New York state election law, tax law,
or federal campaign finance law.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
They're saying what the specif crime was.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, they're not saying definitively that Trump even committed that
specific crime.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't get this, Am I being stupid?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
No? It's confusing at times, and I'm very curious how
the jury's going to be instructed on this because it's
an interesting test, and you know, it's a very weighty
burden convicting a former president of the United States are
possibly acquitting him. But it seems as though all they
need to find here is beyond the reasonable doubt Trump
knowingly falsified these documents and then on top of that,
made that falsification to advance another crime. It doesn't seem
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like we're going to get that much specificity, or at
least the jury at this point hasn't heard really clearly
articulated by the prosecutors what that other crime needs to be,
though they've offered a few examples, including the fact that
they were possibly tax crimes committed when they reimbursed Cohen,
the fact that the Stormy Daniels payment might have been
a campaign contribution, and this idea that there's New York
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state law that prohibits illegally influencing elections. But there's a
lot there to understand. The judge has emphasized though, he
wants it to be as clear and easy, basically as
possible for the jury to understand all of this so
that they can kind of make a clear decision. We'll
see how long deliberations take here. Yeah, when are the complicated.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
When are the deliberations likely to start?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So we think they're going to begin sometime on Wednesday morning.
The judge is going to charge the jury. That will
take about an hour around nine thirty in the morning
on Wednesday, and at that point, this issues in the
hands of the jury. They could take as long as
they'd like. We've seen vertics come back in a few hours,
We've seen verdicts come back in a week, so it's
hard to say at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
All right, Peter, thank you very much. I guess we
got a week until the deliberations start. Peter Harlumbus, ABC
News and Investigative reporter Here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We will continue here now with something we started in
the last few days, and everybody ought to be aware
of this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This is really, really gross. We have an assemblyman named
Bill A. Sale.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
He's the good guy in this. He's from the Inland Empire,
and he's got an Assembly Bill twenty one, and he
wanted to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of
sex crimes against children. Yes, child rapists, child predators, pedophiles,
whatever your favorite term to describe these perverts, Assaille says.
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And it's true that the sanctuary state policies protect these
criminals so that when they get out, they're not deported.
Nobody in law enforcement, nobody in the legal system, can
help the US government and identify where this person is
and when they're getting out, and then take them to
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Ice to have them shipped out of the country.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Can't do that in California. It's really outright.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're talking about convicted illegal alien child rapists just as
one category. And to demonstrate that, we're going to play
this news story. And this is Hailey Winslow. This is
her updated report. I told you yesterday she had a
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report on Fox eleven about the guy driving around in
his rape dungeon van, dragging women up into the Angels
National Forest, trapping them in the van and raping them.
And there were two victims and the police encountered him
in the midst of one of these acts. Well, it
turns out other women are coming forward and he has
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also done this to at least one child. And you'll
hear about the evidence in this report Hailey Winslow Fox eleven.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well sources say at least two more victims, unfortunately have
come forward and they're family members, and at least one
of them is a child. And I can now report
what I'm told the forensic team uncovered inside that van.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
We want to warn you it is very disturbing.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Stench, overpowering, the mess, overwhelming condoms, Christmas toys, a motorized scooter,
beer glue markers, improvised restraints, a metal partition, and locks
on the outside. Two heroic deputies arrested forty year old
Eduardo Sarabia in the Angelus National Forest last week. Investigators
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say they caught Serabia raping a twenty six year old woman.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
At knife point. On the inside the quote Dungeon rape van,
where investigators say a serial rapist took his victims at
least two women, possibly kids, the evidence forensic investigators found
is extremely disturbing.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In here.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
There's the mattress many spots, there's semen they found on it.
There's several cell phones and thumb drives where they believe
he was videotaping his victims. And most disturbing in all
of this is probably a small pair of shoes with
splattered blood on the soles. All of that evidence has
been a horse processed, and inside the van is everything.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
That's left taken to the crime lab. Law enforcement officers
say the forensic team found multiple pairs of women's underwear
tucked in corners of the van. They believe he collected
as trophies, a small pair of pajamas, and next to
the small bloody shoes, investigators.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Say they found a shovel. That gruesome evidence.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Obviously raises a lot more questions. Sources say the family
members who have come forward since the Robbia's arrest have
had concerns about him for years. However, they were afraid
to alert authorities because they're undocumented immigrants and feared no
one would believe.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Them or they'd be deported. So the first.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Victim escaped, she was sleeping next to a building and
a security guard actually woke her up, and she said,
please just leave me alone, let me be.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I've just been raped.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And he said, well, we need to call nine one one,
and that's how the whole thing unfolded. The fear, of course,
now is with the shovels being found inside the van
and these very small clothing and the shoes with the
blood on him, that there might be a lot more victims,
and there might be more than just one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Child, and maybe they're buried, maybe they're dead.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Now, this is exactly the kind of guy that the
Assembly Democrats are protecting by refusing to allow him to
be deported with California's help because guess who's going to
be prosecuting this case. It's George Gascone. Now, nobody believes
the Gascone will end up prosecuting him and having him
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fully sentenced should be life in prison. But even so,
this guy is thirty eight years old, he's probably been
doing this for a while, and he's only twelve years
away from retirement age. For prisoners, you're considered elderly when
you pass a fifty year mark. When you're over fifty
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years old, you're an elderly prisoner and you're eligible for parole.
And these guys are getting parole, even the ones who
committed heinous crimes. They're getting paroled because of the California legislature.
And the California legislature now has turned on Bill Assale.
They're so angry with him because he's embarrassed them. They
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won't even consider a law that would eventually deport Eduardo Sarabia.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Do you hear.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The small pajamas, small pair of shoes with blood spattered
on it. He's raping and possibly killing little girls. And
that's who these Democrat Assembly people are protecting, including Democratic women.
Going to talk about one of them coming up because
she only won her election by five hundred and twenty
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two votes, and there ought to be five hundred and
twenty two people in their district that would change their
vote just based on this story alone. And what happened
yesterday with Bill of Sale's bill. Get into all that
coming up.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We are going to continue now covering the Bill of
Sale bill, the Bill of Saley bill. A Sale offered
a motion yesterday so that the Assembly could vote on
weather to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of
sex crimes against children, my child rapists one category. And
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we just played you the story. And this is this
week's horrible set of atrocities from Hailey Winslow at Fox eleven.
This is the Edward Our Sarabia case, Syria rapist. He
was driving around a rape dungeon on wheels, that's what
the deputies called it, and it looks like he was
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raping young girls in there. They found a small pair
of shoes with blood spattered on the souls, a small
shovel which is really ominous, and he had multiple pairs
of women's underwear that Sarabia kept his trophies, and this
heartbreaking detail a pair of small pajamas. So Sarabia is
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raping young girls, possibly killing them. And when guess going
lets Sarabia out, which he will, you know, the sentence
is not going to be that tough, not even for
a child rapist.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And the keller.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Remember esciavo Is represents the fortieth Assembly district Northern LA County,
Santa Clarita area, and she won her election by only
five hundred and twenty two votes. It may not surprise
you that, of course the La Times endorsed her, so
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they were happy to endorse a woman, a mother, by
the way, who will not allow the deportation of an
illegal alien convicted of child rape, polar skiavo And I'm
thinking that maybe we've got to bring back something from
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long ago, and it's called political human sacrifice. It's really
hard to go after legislators in this state because there's
so many of them. There's eighty Assembly districts there. California
is huge, and you know, our listenership is concentrated in
certain areas and not in others. But I think for
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five hundred and twenty two votes. I think we can
make an example of Polar Skiavo because it really bothers
me that a woman and a mother, after having this situation,
clearly explained to her about these illegal alien child rapists
and other sexual child predators that would be obviously you
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want to be able to deport them, and she says no.
And further, when Assale pointed out publicly that she had
only won by five hundred votes, she got pissed off
and called him disgusting. So this is what we're dealing
with here with Pilar Skiava. Let me give you a
sense of what it was like in Sacramento yesterday. They
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cut off, as you may have heard, as Sale's microphone
while he was making his motion and he was just
describing what the motion was. He motioned to have the
Assembly vote on the bill, and the Speaker pro Temp,
Jim Wood from Northern California, started saying, stop, stop, stop.
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You went beyond making a motion, you started to go
into debate. Well, he was describing the motion. He was
describing the bill he wanted to vote to end sanctuary
state protections for illegal immigr and pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That was the bill.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Describing the bill was declared out of bounds by Jim
Wood from Healdsburg. Let's play the clip and in case
you missed it recognized.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Thank you, mister Speaker. I moved to suspend the rules
and invoke the.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
California over Jury instructions. And Speaker I moved.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
To suspend the rules and invoke the California Constitution to
withdraw Assembly Bill two six four one, which will end
sanctuary state protections for convicted illegal imop pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Stop.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
You went beyond making emotion. You started to go into debate.
You can make the motion, but you cannot talk about
the motion will be non debatable. So you made your motion,
your emotion correct.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And now I'm just going to speak without a microphone
because Jim Wood didn't like him describing you on the
mine a second, all right, you can cut it off there.
So why are all the Democrats in the Assembly either
voting no or refusing to vote. Some of her cowards,
they refuse to vote. They don't want this on their record,
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but they're against this. Not one Democrat voted yes. Now
let's go back to example A this week, Edward Sarabia.
Why would you not vote to eventually deport him? When
the evidence includes a small pair of girl's shoes with
blood spattered on the soules, next to a small shovel,
and small pajamas in addition to the women's underwear. Because
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he rapped a number of adult women and who knows
how many he killed, We don't know, But that's who
Pilar Scalva wants to protect from Santa Clarita. Why does
she want to protect Eduardo Sarabia? Why is that? I mean,
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I truly is that too provocative a question?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is that too a sale said that they.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Refuse to have even a hearing because they know I
bring the angel moms and the county sheriffs to testify.
Angel moms are mothers whose children were killed by illegal aliens.
For example, Agnes Gibbney, who we've had on the show.
I can't believe this, but her son was killed by
an illegal alien twenty two years ago, and Gibbey said,
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they put illegal aliens before us and our children. In
the twenty two years since my son was murdered, not
a single thing has been done. I am outraged. Yeah,
because we've had one party rule in the legislature for
those twenty two years. Asali said, this is just another
day in the capitol. These politicians, they don't give a damn.
They literally don't give a damn. It's totally outrageous. You
should see how cavalier and casually they voted this down.
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It's totally meaningless to them. They're totally disconnected. I hope
the people see what happened today. Why does state law
protect pedophile legal immigrants? Why are we shielding them from ice?
They won't even answer the question. They won't have the hearing,
they won't listen to any evidence. They won't even allow
Bill Sale to say on a microphone what the law
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is about taking away protections for illegal immigrant pedophiles. And
when this has pointed out to polar Skiavo, this assembly
woman in Santa Clarita, that this is what she supports,
and she only won by five hundred and twenty two votes,
she calls a Sale disgusting. Now, I don't know what
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kind of people we have up there, especially somebody who's
a woman and another I don't understand that. And of
course they never speak. She can call us here at
the show anytime she wants. I'll give her the whole show.
We can have a three hour discussion why she thinks
an illegal alien child rapist like Eduardo Sarabia, with his
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collection of pajamas, child's pajamas and children's shoes, and the
blood and the shovel of the whole bit, why at
some point he shouldn't be deported. Can't rely on gascon
to send him to prison for any length of time?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Can we? I don't know how we got here. It's
so bizarre. It's like some weird horror movie.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But yeah, Pillarsciavo, we'll be discussing her between now and
November periodically, and maybe there's five hundred and twenty two
people that we can change their minds on, at least
in the Santa Clarita area, which I don't think what
I know of the area, I don't think most of
the people they are cool with this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, come out of after three o'clock. The chancellor at
UCLA is being sent to Washington. Congress is going to
give him a public spanking. I mean that literally, he's
going to be bent over and spanked by members of Congress.
We'll give you the details over the terrible way that
he handled the protests. But I have something that's going
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to light you up here. Would you believe another Boeing story? No,
this could be the mother of all Boeing stories. Here
hasn't happened yet, but here's the headline in the Daily Mail.
Three hundred Boeing planes used by United and American have
potentially fatal has a potentially fatal fault that could cause
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the jets to explode in mid air. And this is
not clickbait. The issue involves an electrical fault on the
seven seven seven jets that could cause fuel tanks on
the wings to catch fire and explode. Covers three hundred
US planes. The FAA reported the issue in March and
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gave Boeing until May ninth to respond, but nobody knows
if they did or not.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Second, so this has been known since March. What is
it May twenty second?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
And these planes are still flying, yes, so they should
have been immediately grounded.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They were not.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There was an actual airworthiness directive And I'm looking at
the print out here they have. They have screenshots at
the Daily Mail, and this is a real thing and
it says this condition, if not addressed, could result in
an ignition source inside the fuel tank and subsequent fire
or explosion. It would cost Boeing about seven hundred thousand
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dollars to correct all the aircraft. Because it's only an
electrical short, so it's not very expensive for the airline.
The parts required to remove these static electricity risks would
only cost ninety eight dollars for each plane. They want
to do electrical bonding and grounding to be installed to
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prevent a short circuit or an electrostatic discharge. And we
never even talked about the Singapore flight yesterday. That was Boeing, Yes.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
It was, although we can't really blame Boeing for that one, right,
I mean that was turbulence.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We can't blame Bowing for the weather. No, no, no,
I was going to I know you were, but we haven't.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
You know, we have to be fair and balanced.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well you do, that's true, you don't.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
No, I can be unfair and unbalanced, and I am
uh yeah, that poor seventy three year old guy, I know.
And then twenty three others injured, and the apparent a
lot of head and spinal injuries because people were flung
into the ceiling.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
You have to keep your seatbelt on the whole time.
I mean, people are going to have to figure out
how to pee without moving.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I know, right, terrified going to the men's room, right,
I know that's not where I want to die if
there's turbulence. I don't want to smash my head and
die and then drop into the toilet and that's where
they find me lying bad. Yeah, there we go. Nice life,
great way to end. So but see that, But there's
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there's no information. If Boeing said, yeah, you're right, or
go stick it or we're right on it, it's already fixed.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
No, the planes all should have been grounded, and Boeing
should say, okay, we're going to check each and every
plane because as you said, the cost is minimal, right,
but when people die on planes, that's gonna be a
lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I've never seen a company have this much bad news
in this short a time in my life. It seems
like this is probably like ten years worth of bad deeds.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All piled up to get them.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Yet people still have their jobs.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I know, what is it? What does it take
to get fired?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
And Boeing I don't know, because he's even the ones
that are eased out or eased out with.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They get a lot of money one time million dollar packages.
It's not there, John, I know I'd like a seven
figure firing like that. That'd be wonderful. Well me take
over boeing. Uh, there's no outcry for that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
As as bad as it is, nobody has said, let
Deborah run bowing.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Well, let's start a campaign.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like it's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
All right, Debra's got the news coming up, and then
we're going to talk about the chancellor at UCLA. God,
he's I think less than two months away from the
end of his term, and what a way to go out.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's being hauled off to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
To get yelled at by Congress for the lousy way
he handled the Palestinian protest. Deborah Mark Live and the
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right. We are going.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
To get into the aftermath of yesterday's attempt by Assemblyman
Bill Sale from the Inland Empire to get the Assembly
to pass a law that would empower law enforcement to
deport convicted illegal alien child rapists and other child sex fiends.
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These are men attacking children and teens sexually viciously raping them.
In fact, we have a new one to add to
the list that we talked about yesterday, and we're gonna
go after now, one by one the assembly people locally
here in LA and Orange County who voted no or
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voted abstained from voting to block this thing, especially one
woman in particular, who was really rude and obnoxious to
Bill Saley over this bill. Why this woman would get
angry over trying to deport a legal alien child rapist,
I don't know, but we'll talk about her and her
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district and her last election coming up. Right now, let's
talk to Peter Harlambus from ABC News. He's been covering
the Trump trial and the witness The witness portion of
the trial ended yesterday and then the attorneys and the
judge started haggling over jury instructions and on Tuesday, supposedly
(01:52):
there's going to be closing arguments for both sides. We
will talk now with Peter and see what the last
witnesses like. Peter, how are.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You hey, John? Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I well, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So the one that caused the most fireworks and testifying
on behalf of the defense was Robert Carstello. Robert Costello,
former federal prosecutor, and he was brought to make Michael
Cohen look like Coin is a liar?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Can he explain what happened?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah? So Costello was one of the two defense witnesses.
He took a stand on Monday. Defense lawyers had hoped
to use his testimony to impeach the testimony of Michael Cohen. Basically,
Costello served as a legal advisor to Cohen. In twenty eighteen,
after the FBI had rated Cohen's home in office, Costello
and Cohen met over a variety of meetings and phone
(02:44):
calls to discuss Cohen's legal strategy, though Costello never formally
became Cohen's lawyer. According to Costello, Cohen told him in
twenty eighteen that Donald Trump had nothing to do with
the Stormy Daniels hush money payment, that he was unaware,
and that Cohen did it all on his own. That
could here at contradict Cohen's testimony that Donald Trump was
deeply involved in that hush money payment ahead of at
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twenty sixteen in election. Where it gets to be confusing, though,
is the fact that Cohen told jurors on the witness
stand that he lied to Costell in twenty eighteen that
when he said that Donald Trump knew nothing about those
hush money payments, it was a lie, that he was
trying to protect Trump and that he didn't trust Costello.
So it's a bit confusing and not necessarily cut in
dry for this jury. But defense lawyers have been hammering
at Cohen since day one, saying he's a liar, he's
(03:27):
a thief, he simply can't be trusted. And Costello offered
some testimony to add to that. Kind of growing pile
of testimony that goes against Cohen's credibility in the case.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He admitted to being a thief, that he stole money
from the Trump organization that he was never prosecuted for.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, that's right. So Cohen testified that he over requested
thirty thousand dollars for a reimbursement, that he knew he
was stealing from his company, he never paid that money back,
and that he's never been charged for any crime related
to it. The prosecutors tried to get that out on
direct examination, trying to get ahead of it, but defence
lawyers really hammered at that point, using it to go
after Cohen's credibility, painting him is not only a liar,
(04:06):
but a thief, which is coin something which is something
that Coan admitted, the fact that he's made those mistakes
in the past. It's unclear how much of the testimony
the jury doesn't believe from Cohen will have to see
over the coming days how much of Cohen's testimony they trust.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't know what you do with a guy who
admits that he lies and steals, but right now he's
not lying.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So prosecutors have tried to argue that Cohen is kind
of has repented for his crimes in the past, and
he's trying to do the right thing now that all
those past lies in the past and the stealing happened
when he was working for Trump, when he was loyal
to Trump. But it's really not a black and white
issue in the way. There's a lot of gray here
in that there's some testimony and evidence to back up
what's Coen is saying. There are other times when defence
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lawyers have seemingly caught Coen and what they say is
a lie. For example, there was a big sticking point
on last week's testimony that Cohen talked about a major
phone call on our October twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, with Trump,
where they confirmed the plan to go forward with that
Stormy Daniels hush money payment. Defense lawyers came with evidence
actually suggesting that phone call was Cohen complaining about a
(05:10):
prank caller who'd been blowing up his phone to Trump's bodyguard.
Cohen refused to say that his testimony was a liar
and consistent stood by what he originally said, but it
left at times damning impression of Cohen in the minds
of the sorry in front of this jury. So we'll
see what they necessarily believe in what they don't as
they head into deliberations, which could begin as early as Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Is Cohen the only witnesses the only witness that specifically
ties Trump to this plot to pay off Stormy Daniels?
Is he the only one with the details about it?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So Cohen's the only one who's talked about this his
actions in depth with Trump ahead of the twenty sixteen election.
Other witnesses have talked about the paper trail, the checks,
the invoices. Hopepis, the former White House communications director, testified
that Trump told her that he preferred the story come
out after the twenty sixteen election, and that he spoke
with added that payment was being made, that Con was
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making a quote out of the kindness of his heart.
But really, Con is the star witness here. His testimony
really sits at the center of the case, and issues
with his credibility could spell a major problem for prosecutors.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Now, going back to Robert Costello, the attorney who said
Coin was lying, he got into a few problems with
the judge.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, Honestly, the most dramatic and kind of shocking moment
of this entire trial came during Costello's testimony. The judge
accused Costello of staring him down, giving him side eye,
responding audibly to some of the judge's rulings when it
came to objections. The judge at one point cleared the
jury from the courtroom and gave Costello a lecture on
courtroom tocorram courtroom decorum. When Costello then stared down the judge,
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he simply had enough. The judge cleared the courtroom of
the sixty members of the press and basically told Costello
that his conduct was bordering on contempt and that if
he did it again, he'd be kicked off the witness stand.
We've never seen any kind of any level of that
frustration from the judge in this trial before. It was
kind of stunning to see in person.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So they've hashed out the jury instructions. Is anybody aware
of what the instructions will be or you have to
wait till Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We're still piecing together what the instructions might be. The
press doesn't have access to the proposed charge. We think
the charge will be finalized by the judge tomorrow, but
we were present for the charging conference yesterday, which kind
of gave us a sense of what Marshaan is thinking.
Mirshan has suggested he wants to make this as clear
as possible for the jury. He wants to stick to
(07:36):
the standard jury instructions for these crimes. Basically, in order
to convict Trump, the jury will have to believe beyond
the reasonable doubt that Trump knowingly falsified documents that he
did that in furtherance of another crime. The prosecutors don't
need to specify what that other crime was. The jury
doesn't have to believe that Trump actually committed that other crime.
So it's a very interesting standard.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wait, wait, go do that again. I mean, I've heard
this before and I don't understand added. The prosecutors don't
have to specify the crime that these uh that that
these misdemeanors were in service of the misdemeanors were falsifying
the records, right, But the reason there's a felony is
he was falsifying the records in order to commit this
(08:18):
second crime. But they don't have to explain what the
second crime is, and they don't have to prove that
Trump actually committed the second crime.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, so we'll hear more about this with certainty once
we see or hear the charge over the coming days.
But it seems as though the legal standard here is
just this two prong tests. One, did Donald Trump knowingly
falsify these documents, both either by signing the document or
causing someone else, for example, an accountant in the Trump
organization to falsify them for him. That's prong one. Prong
two is whether or not these documents were falsified in
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furtherance of another crime. Now, prosecutors have suggested those other
crimes could be a New York state election law, tax law,
or federal campaign finance law.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
They're saying what the specif crime was.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, they're not saying definitively that Trump even committed that
specific crime.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't get this, Am I being stupid?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
No? It's confusing at times, and I'm very curious how
the jury's going to be instructed on this because it's
an interesting test, and you know, it's a very weighty
burden convicting a former president of the United States are
possibly acquitting him. But it seems as though all they
need to find here is beyond the reasonable doubt Trump
knowingly falsified these documents and then on top of that,
made that falsification to advance another crime. It doesn't seem
(09:31):
like we're going to get that much specificity, or at
least the jury at this point hasn't heard really clearly
articulated by the prosecutors what that other crime needs to be,
though they've offered a few examples, including the fact that
they were possibly tax crimes committed when they reimbursed Cohen,
the fact that the Stormy Daniels payment might have been
a campaign contribution, and this idea that there's New York
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state law that prohibits illegally influencing elections. But there's a
lot there to understand. The judge has emphasized though, he
wants it to be as clear and easy, basically as
possible for the jury to understand all of this so
that they can kind of make a clear decision. We'll
see how long deliberations take here. Yeah, when are the complicated.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
When are the deliberations likely to start?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So we think they're going to begin sometime on Wednesday morning.
The judge is going to charge the jury. That will
take about an hour around nine thirty in the morning
on Wednesday, and at that point, this issues in the
hands of the jury. They could take as long as
they'd like. We've seen vertics come back in a few hours,
We've seen verdicts come back in a week, so it's
hard to say at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
All right, Peter, thank you very much. I guess we
got a week until the deliberations start. Peter Harlumbus, ABC
News and Investigative reporter Here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We will continue here now with something we started in
the last few days, and everybody ought to be aware
of this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This is really, really gross. We have an assemblyman named
Bill A. Sale.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
He's the good guy in this. He's from the Inland Empire,
and he's got an Assembly Bill twenty one, and he
wanted to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of
sex crimes against children. Yes, child rapists, child predators, pedophiles,
whatever your favorite term to describe these perverts, Assaille says.
(11:21):
And it's true that the sanctuary state policies protect these
criminals so that when they get out, they're not deported.
Nobody in law enforcement, nobody in the legal system, can
help the US government and identify where this person is
and when they're getting out, and then take them to
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Ice to have them shipped out of the country.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Can't do that in California. It's really outright.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're talking about convicted illegal alien child rapists just as
one category. And to demonstrate that, we're going to play
this news story. And this is Hailey Winslow. This is
her updated report. I told you yesterday she had a
(12:10):
report on Fox eleven about the guy driving around in
his rape dungeon van, dragging women up into the Angels
National Forest, trapping them in the van and raping them.
And there were two victims and the police encountered him
in the midst of one of these acts. Well, it
turns out other women are coming forward and he has
(12:34):
also done this to at least one child. And you'll
hear about the evidence in this report Hailey Winslow Fox eleven.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well sources say at least two more victims, unfortunately have
come forward and they're family members, and at least one
of them is a child. And I can now report
what I'm told the forensic team uncovered inside that van.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
We want to warn you it is very disturbing.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Stench, overpowering, the mess, overwhelming condoms, Christmas toys, a motorized scooter,
beer glue markers, improvised restraints, a metal partition, and locks
on the outside. Two heroic deputies arrested forty year old
Eduardo Sarabia in the Angelus National Forest last week. Investigators
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say they caught Serabia raping a twenty six year old woman.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
At knife point. On the inside the quote Dungeon rape van,
where investigators say a serial rapist took his victims at
least two women, possibly kids, the evidence forensic investigators found
is extremely disturbing.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In here.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
There's the mattress many spots, there's semen they found on it.
There's several cell phones and thumb drives where they believe
he was videotaping his victims. And most disturbing in all
of this is probably a small pair of shoes with
splattered blood on the soles. All of that evidence has
been a horse processed, and inside the van is everything.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
That's left taken to the crime lab. Law enforcement officers
say the forensic team found multiple pairs of women's underwear
tucked in corners of the van. They believe he collected
as trophies, a small pair of pajamas, and next to
the small bloody shoes, investigators.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Say they found a shovel. That gruesome evidence.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Obviously raises a lot more questions. Sources say the family
members who have come forward since the Robbia's arrest have
had concerns about him for years. However, they were afraid
to alert authorities because they're undocumented immigrants and feared no
one would believe.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Them or they'd be deported. So the first.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Victim escaped, she was sleeping next to a building and
a security guard actually woke her up, and she said,
please just leave me alone, let me be.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I've just been raped.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And he said, well, we need to call nine one one,
and that's how the whole thing unfolded. The fear, of course,
now is with the shovels being found inside the van
and these very small clothing and the shoes with the
blood on him, that there might be a lot more victims,
and there might be more than just one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Child, and maybe they're buried, maybe they're dead.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Now, this is exactly the kind of guy that the
Assembly Democrats are protecting by refusing to allow him to
be deported with California's help because guess who's going to
be prosecuting this case. It's George Gascone. Now, nobody believes
the Gascone will end up prosecuting him and having him
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fully sentenced should be life in prison. But even so,
this guy is thirty eight years old, he's probably been
doing this for a while, and he's only twelve years
away from retirement age. For prisoners, you're considered elderly when
you pass a fifty year mark. When you're over fifty
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years old, you're an elderly prisoner and you're eligible for parole.
And these guys are getting parole, even the ones who
committed heinous crimes. They're getting paroled because of the California legislature.
And the California legislature now has turned on Bill Assale.
They're so angry with him because he's embarrassed them. They
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won't even consider a law that would eventually deport Eduardo Sarabia.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Do you hear.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The small pajamas, small pair of shoes with blood spattered
on it. He's raping and possibly killing little girls. And
that's who these Democrat Assembly people are protecting, including Democratic women.
Going to talk about one of them coming up because
she only won her election by five hundred and twenty
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two votes, and there ought to be five hundred and
twenty two people in their district that would change their
vote just based on this story alone. And what happened
yesterday with Bill of Sale's bill. Get into all that
coming up.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We are going to continue now covering the Bill of
Sale bill, the Bill of Saley bill. A Sale offered
a motion yesterday so that the Assembly could vote on
weather to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of
sex crimes against children, my child rapists one category. And
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we just played you the story. And this is this
week's horrible set of atrocities from Hailey Winslow at Fox eleven.
This is the Edward Our Sarabia case, Syria rapist. He
was driving around a rape dungeon on wheels, that's what
the deputies called it, and it looks like he was
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raping young girls in there. They found a small pair
of shoes with blood spattered on the souls, a small
shovel which is really ominous, and he had multiple pairs
of women's underwear that Sarabia kept his trophies, and this
heartbreaking detail a pair of small pajamas. So Sarabia is
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raping young girls, possibly killing them. And when guess going
lets Sarabia out, which he will, you know, the sentence
is not going to be that tough, not even for
a child rapist.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And the keller.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Remember esciavo Is represents the fortieth Assembly district Northern LA County,
Santa Clarita area, and she won her election by only
five hundred and twenty two votes. It may not surprise
you that, of course the La Times endorsed her, so
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they were happy to endorse a woman, a mother, by
the way, who will not allow the deportation of an
illegal alien convicted of child rape, polar skiavo And I'm
thinking that maybe we've got to bring back something from
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long ago, and it's called political human sacrifice. It's really
hard to go after legislators in this state because there's
so many of them. There's eighty Assembly districts there. California
is huge, and you know, our listenership is concentrated in
certain areas and not in others. But I think for
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five hundred and twenty two votes. I think we can
make an example of Polar Skiavo because it really bothers
me that a woman and a mother, after having this situation,
clearly explained to her about these illegal alien child rapists
and other sexual child predators that would be obviously you
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want to be able to deport them, and she says no.
And further, when Assale pointed out publicly that she had
only won by five hundred votes, she got pissed off
and called him disgusting. So this is what we're dealing
with here with Pilar Skiava. Let me give you a
sense of what it was like in Sacramento yesterday. They
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cut off, as you may have heard, as Sale's microphone
while he was making his motion and he was just
describing what the motion was. He motioned to have the
Assembly vote on the bill, and the Speaker pro Temp,
Jim Wood from Northern California, started saying, stop, stop, stop.
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You went beyond making a motion, you started to go
into debate. Well, he was describing the motion. He was
describing the bill he wanted to vote to end sanctuary
state protections for illegal immigr and pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That was the bill.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Describing the bill was declared out of bounds by Jim
Wood from Healdsburg. Let's play the clip and in case
you missed it recognized.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Thank you, mister Speaker. I moved to suspend the rules
and invoke the.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
California over Jury instructions. And Speaker I moved.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
To suspend the rules and invoke the California Constitution to
withdraw Assembly Bill two six four one, which will end
sanctuary state protections for convicted illegal imop pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Stop.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
You went beyond making emotion. You started to go into debate.
You can make the motion, but you cannot talk about
the motion will be non debatable. So you made your motion,
your emotion correct.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And now I'm just going to speak without a microphone
because Jim Wood didn't like him describing you on the
mine a second, all right, you can cut it off there.
So why are all the Democrats in the Assembly either
voting no or refusing to vote. Some of her cowards,
they refuse to vote. They don't want this on their record,
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but they're against this. Not one Democrat voted yes. Now
let's go back to example A this week, Edward Sarabia.
Why would you not vote to eventually deport him? When
the evidence includes a small pair of girl's shoes with
blood spattered on the soules, next to a small shovel,
and small pajamas in addition to the women's underwear. Because
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he rapped a number of adult women and who knows
how many he killed, We don't know, But that's who
Pilar Scalva wants to protect from Santa Clarita. Why does
she want to protect Eduardo Sarabia? Why is that? I mean,
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I truly is that too provocative a question?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is that too a sale said that they.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Refuse to have even a hearing because they know I
bring the angel moms and the county sheriffs to testify.
Angel moms are mothers whose children were killed by illegal aliens.
For example, Agnes Gibbney, who we've had on the show.
I can't believe this, but her son was killed by
an illegal alien twenty two years ago, and Gibbey said,
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they put illegal aliens before us and our children. In
the twenty two years since my son was murdered, not
a single thing has been done. I am outraged. Yeah,
because we've had one party rule in the legislature for
those twenty two years. Asali said, this is just another
day in the capitol. These politicians, they don't give a damn.
They literally don't give a damn. It's totally outrageous. You
should see how cavalier and casually they voted this down.
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It's totally meaningless to them. They're totally disconnected. I hope
the people see what happened today. Why does state law
protect pedophile legal immigrants? Why are we shielding them from ice?
They won't even answer the question. They won't have the hearing,
they won't listen to any evidence. They won't even allow
Bill Sale to say on a microphone what the law
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is about taking away protections for illegal immigrant pedophiles. And
when this has pointed out to polar Skiavo, this assembly
woman in Santa Clarita, that this is what she supports,
and she only won by five hundred and twenty two votes,
she calls a Sale disgusting. Now, I don't know what
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kind of people we have up there, especially somebody who's
a woman and another I don't understand that. And of
course they never speak. She can call us here at
the show anytime she wants. I'll give her the whole show.
We can have a three hour discussion why she thinks
an illegal alien child rapist like Eduardo Sarabia, with his
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collection of pajamas, child's pajamas and children's shoes, and the
blood and the shovel of the whole bit, why at
some point he shouldn't be deported. Can't rely on gascon
to send him to prison for any length of time?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Can we? I don't know how we got here. It's
so bizarre. It's like some weird horror movie.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But yeah, Pillarsciavo, we'll be discussing her between now and
November periodically, and maybe there's five hundred and twenty two
people that we can change their minds on, at least
in the Santa Clarita area, which I don't think what
I know of the area, I don't think most of
the people they are cool with this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, come out of after three o'clock. The chancellor at
UCLA is being sent to Washington. Congress is going to
give him a public spanking. I mean that literally, he's
going to be bent over and spanked by members of Congress.
We'll give you the details over the terrible way that
he handled the protests. But I have something that's going
(26:10):
to light you up here. Would you believe another Boeing story? No,
this could be the mother of all Boeing stories. Here
hasn't happened yet, but here's the headline in the Daily Mail.
Three hundred Boeing planes used by United and American have
potentially fatal has a potentially fatal fault that could cause
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the jets to explode in mid air. And this is
not clickbait. The issue involves an electrical fault on the
seven seven seven jets that could cause fuel tanks on
the wings to catch fire and explode. Covers three hundred
US planes. The FAA reported the issue in March and
(26:55):
gave Boeing until May ninth to respond, but nobody knows
if they did or not.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Second, so this has been known since March. What is
it May twenty second?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
And these planes are still flying, yes, so they should
have been immediately grounded.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They were not.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There was an actual airworthiness directive And I'm looking at
the print out here they have. They have screenshots at
the Daily Mail, and this is a real thing and
it says this condition, if not addressed, could result in
an ignition source inside the fuel tank and subsequent fire
or explosion. It would cost Boeing about seven hundred thousand
(27:40):
dollars to correct all the aircraft. Because it's only an
electrical short, so it's not very expensive for the airline.
The parts required to remove these static electricity risks would
only cost ninety eight dollars for each plane. They want
to do electrical bonding and grounding to be installed to
(28:02):
prevent a short circuit or an electrostatic discharge. And we
never even talked about the Singapore flight yesterday. That was Boeing, Yes.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
It was, although we can't really blame Boeing for that one, right,
I mean that was turbulence.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We can't blame Bowing for the weather. No, no, no,
I was going to I know you were, but we haven't.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
You know, we have to be fair and balanced.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well you do, that's true, you don't.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
No, I can be unfair and unbalanced, and I am
uh yeah, that poor seventy three year old guy, I know.
And then twenty three others injured, and the apparent a
lot of head and spinal injuries because people were flung
into the ceiling.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
You have to keep your seatbelt on the whole time.
I mean, people are going to have to figure out
how to pee without moving.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I know, right, terrified going to the men's room, right,
I know that's not where I want to die if
there's turbulence. I don't want to smash my head and
die and then drop into the toilet and that's where
they find me lying bad. Yeah, there we go. Nice life,
great way to end. So but see that, But there's
(29:16):
there's no information. If Boeing said, yeah, you're right, or
go stick it or we're right on it, it's already fixed.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
No, the planes all should have been grounded, and Boeing
should say, okay, we're going to check each and every
plane because as you said, the cost is minimal, right,
but when people die on planes, that's gonna be a
lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I've never seen a company have this much bad news
in this short a time in my life. It seems
like this is probably like ten years worth of bad deeds.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All piled up to get them.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Yet people still have their jobs.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I know, what is it? What does it take
to get fired?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
And Boeing I don't know, because he's even the ones
that are eased out or eased out with.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They get a lot of money one time million dollar packages.
It's not there, John, I know I'd like a seven
figure firing like that. That'd be wonderful. Well me take
over boeing. Uh, there's no outcry for that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
As as bad as it is, nobody has said, let
Deborah run bowing.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Well, let's start a campaign.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like it's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
All right, Debra's got the news coming up, and then
we're going to talk about the chancellor at UCLA. God,
he's I think less than two months away from the
end of his term, and what a way to go out.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's being hauled off to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
To get yelled at by Congress for the lousy way
he handled the Palestinian protest. Deborah Mark Live and the
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