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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome,
We've got a great show coming up, really better than
even yesterday. We're on from one until four and then
after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. It's the
podcast version. You could hear what you missed, and I
would tell everyone not to miss a thing. Today, We're
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going to start with a classic Steve Gregory exclusive. He
gets news that nobody else has and when you hear
the story, you would think this would be all over
the place. I've got all I know about it is
one headline that was typed out for me. Two convicted
killers escape transitional housing in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's shocking.
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That's the tip I got on Sunday. And it's taken
a few days now to verify the information because the
way it was given to me, it was through a
direct message, and I look at it and a lot
of times, you know, I have to be careful because
sometimes information when you play the telephone game, it gets
diluted and changed, and you got to make sure the
information is accurate. So on Monday I started working on it.
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Yesterday and then today everything fell right into my lap
with all the confirmation. So what we know is that
two young men escaped facility called the Amity Amistad, it's
like the Amistad de Los Angeles transitional housing downtown Los Angeles,
and this is, you know, kind of one of those
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places where re entry programs happen. You know, people that
are coming out of prison, are out of jail, and
they've got to learn how to sort of reintegrate back
into society. That kind of saying and a lot of counseling,
a lot of bonfires and marshmallo arrows and that kind
of stuff. Well, you know, like summer camp stuff. You know,
they all sit around. But these are two young men.
So one of them's nineteen years old, the other one's
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twenty years old. So they were both in juvenile detention,
one for committing voluntary manslaughter and the other one for
committing murder. Now, the twenty year old had a what
they call a baseline term of four years and six months.
That was the sentence for the twenty year old. That's
because the way the law is is that if you
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commit even a heinous crime as a juvenile, you're done
at twenty five. You'll be incarcerated in a juvenile detention
facility until you're twenty five, and then you're done. Even
if you've murdered something, yes, as a juvenile. So if
you go back the math, you know the crime was
committed while this individual was a minor, and so they
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had been sentenced, if you will, to live out their
sentence in the juvenile facility. And they it's a secure
facility in Van Nuys. It's the one that they're supposed
to be in. It's called a Secure Youth Treatment Facility
or a SYTF. It's of the Silmar Juvenile Hall. The
other individual, the nineteen year old who committed the murder
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or was convicted of the murder, had a baseline term
of seven years and was released from the Amistad. Also
a member of the Rolling Nineties, a member of the crips. Okay,
so a gang member who killed somebody. Now were they
nineteen and twenty when they committed the crime or in
nineteen and twenty now they're nineteen and twenty now, all right,
So why are they out so early in a transitional home?
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And there it begs the question, So it should be
twenty five that they get sent to a transitional home
right and they're supposed to be in a secure lock
up facility because they are a violent felon or you know,
in the juvenile of sense, they are supposed to be
in a secure juvenile facility in Silmar.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's the big question.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How did these guys get transferred to a halfway house
that's being funded by the county, being funded by the
state and all kinds of other grants. And I started
looking a little bit into this Amity organization, which has
been around for a while, and you know, you look
at the board of directors and one of the board
members that popped up, which was very interesting to me,
is also listed on the state's California Department of Rehabilitation
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and Corrections the CDCR side. And this individual is actually
listed on the state's prison website as someone who is
a liaison in a contract negotiator for this Amity foundation.
So there's a direct tie to the prison system and
this nonprofit in La County. Yeah, I was gonna say,
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Amity is a nonprofit and it runs these halfway houses
here see for the county in California and in Arizona
and so and when I looked at the board and
I was looking at that. It's all very social justice
centric and it's a lot of They also have the
stance there against the three strikes They were some of
them were members. Some of them lobbied against the three
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strikes law and are lobbying to repeal the three strikes law.
So that's kind of what you've got running these organizations,
or at least the governing board of this organization. So
now I found out that just a little bit ago
that they found the nineteen year old and they found
him at his girlfriend's house. That's classic, you know, when
you're on the run to your girlfriend's house. But they
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were the nineteen year old was caught by the Special
Enforcement Operations team. So here's the thing. So when I
first found out about it on Monday, I reached out
to County Probation because the County Probation oversees the juvenile
facilities that we've talked about many times on the show.
And the County emails me back one line, thank you
for your email. We'll look into your inquiry.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's it. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Meanwhile, we're this whole story is preposterous. We're dealing with
two killers. Yeah, and they can't even keep them locked
up till twenty five, age nineteen and twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
They're in a halfway house and they go running off.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So I've had no fewer than four people inside the
County operation in various positions that have been talking to
me about this particular case. And my question is always, well,
why keep it a secret? Why not tell everyone who
they are, give a description and get the public to
help find them. And they say, in a word, they
weren't supposed to be in that way house.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So everyone's covering up. You said it, everyone's covering up.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So uh, they were supposed to be in this facility
that I told you about in Van Nuys, or the
Silmar Juvenile Hall which is now again renamed the Secure
Youth Treatment Facility. But I was also told by these sources,
at least two of the four sources, that this amity,
this or this Amistad de Los Angeles or d Angelus
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is not licensed to take care of violent offenders.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And we can see why.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And they're supposed to have armed some sort of armed
or at least peace officers watching these individuals, and they're
they're not. And it's counselors basically just counselors, counselors, So
why wouldn't these guys like these two take off, because
there's really no They cut off their ankle monitors, their
GPS bracelets on Saturday night, and it says right here
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at seven forty pm. As at seven forty pm on
May eighteenth, they cut off their ankle monitors and took.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Off the twenty year old. He's still on the loose,
Still on the loose.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I've got their names too, and I was going to
look them up see if I can see what they
look like, if they have any social media accounts. But
the twenty year old is still and they were they
both escaped at seven forty pm on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
They caught the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Year old last night and the uh, it's not clear
they I had been told by Monday they suspected that
both of them were in the South La area. But
I don't know where the girlfriend lives and where they
was at now. But do we know how long they
had that they had to live at the halfway house?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well we don't.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
We know that they were sentenced, if you you know,
going back to the twenty year old was sentenced to
four years and six months total but I don't know
when he went in I see, And then the nineteen
year old was the one that was in for murder,
had a term of seven years total, right, and basically
the maxing there. But they shouldn't have been in a
halfway house. They should have been in a sof you
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want a lock up facility. No, they absolutely should have been.
And if you look, if you want to do the math,
I guess you know, if they both max out at
twenty five, right, then you do the math backwards, then
it would probably you know, they'd be in there, and
probably they're late teens, right, uh, you know under eighteen
under eighteen, right, yeah, So now for escaping, they could
be charged as adults for these crimes.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know, I know everything.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I know everything's up in there, and this is a
county thing now, so it's uh, it would be in
the purview of the district attorney's office.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, all right, so you have all.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
These sources telling you this, is there anybody standing in
front of a microphone with a name and a badge
saying here's what happened. So these two individuals I was
told actually had been transferred to the Malibu halfway House first,
and the residence of Malibu was like, it's called it's
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the Kilpatrick Facility, and they were in Malibu, you know,
and then the residents were like, we don't want this here,
so they moved them to the downtown facility. Well this
seems like a parody. This all remember comical in stories
we've done here. The Bord of Supervisor's goal is to
basically eradicate probation's involvement in the in the enforcement and
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in the security of juveniles. They want them out of
this business in favor of this Department of Youth Development
that they created a couple of years ago, because that's
where they're channeling all their money into this Department of
Youth Development. And it's just a fancy word for you know,
instead of having a probation facility or or a youth facility,
they're just knew these youth development programs. These a bunch
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of nonprofits that are oh so so somebody is getting
funneled a lot of a lots money. And then when
it first started coming up, they said, if you look
at the applications for nonprofits and licenses, it like tripled
overnight because every scam artist is now showing up problem,
follow the money and if you follow the money, yeah,
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is there any more? Or that's okay? But when you
get more? Yeah, come here, all right, we'll get all right.
Steve Gregory an exclusive. I keep hearing it's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Happy birthday too?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hi, everybody, he's only seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Doesn't he look good? He looks amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We just finished with Steve Gregory. And uh, you know,
we here at KFI, both this show and the KFI
News department, we don't we don't let go of a story.
We actually follow up and push and push until we
find out what the full truth is. So Steve's in
the middle of something good and I I mean the whole,
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the whole story from beginning to end. If you if
you missed last segment, I'll just briefly run it down.
There's two convicted killers that were on the loose. They
were convicted of killing two separate people when they were teenagers,
but got cheap sentences because of the stupid law. One
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of them was sentenced about four and a half years,
the other to seven in either case. They weren't supposed
to be out till they were twenty five. Now, when
you have convicted murderers shouldn't be locked up in a prison. Well,
these two somehow were sent to a halfway house run
by a nonprofit and they cut off their ankle monitors
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and they both went a wall. One of them has
been caught at his girlfriend's house. The other one is
still out there. But this is the if you heard
Steve explain they had, there's so much we don't know.
They have rotted out the county justice system from the inside,
and it's the county supervisors and right now it's five
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women who you think would be very safety oriented, considering
that normally women are much more concerned with the safety
of children, and these two guys were children when they
did the killing. I don't know who they killed, but
you know, most women I know are the safety conscious
half of the couple. They're the ones want to make
sure there's proper security in place and that the children
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are safe going to school. And instead we happen to
get the five women in the human species who don't
care at all, and they're dismantling the criminal justice system
for underage criminals.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I have no idea why so they've created all these.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't know, you know what, It's become a cesspool
for crooked nonprofits to get contracts to supposedly take care
or monitor criminals. Felons, I mean real hardcore prisoners. You've
killed somebody, You're at the top of the food chain
there when it comes to nasty criminals and they're they're
not They're not even being watched. How do these two
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get transferred to a halfway house?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And what do you know? They just beard ankle monitors.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
What a joke. The whole thing's a joke. Anyway, Steve
will be on top of it and we'll get more information.
But this is La County supervisors dismantling the county justice
system from the inside.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Whatever. Whatever Gascone didn't ruin, they're ruining the rest of it. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
In a few minutes, we're gonna get Bill mlujian on
from the UH California Mexico border and UH woke up
this morning and Bill had posted UH on social media
interviews with a rather large number of the legal immigrants.
He was in Hakumba, that's east of San Diego at
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two in the morning, and he's interviewing all these men
in the dark of night from Middle the Middle East
and Asia, and some of them are from special interest nations.
They're known as special interest aliens because they come from
countries that have a lot of terrorism and they're supposed
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to be thoroughly investigated before they're allowed into this country.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And that's if they came legally.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But they just a whole group of them showed up
in the middle of the night and Bill ran into him.
This is what Bill does at two o'clock in the morning,
and we're going to discuss this. Apparently, this a Cumbra,
California site is the number one site for illegal crossings.
It's an hour east of San Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Fox News has tried to request from Customs and Border
Protection a list of the nationalities of people on the
FBI terror watch list who have been arrested at the border,
but Customs and Border Patrol refuse, claiming privacy interests of
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those involved.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, these are legal aliens and they're on the terror
watch list.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They have privacy rights, and we can't know their names
and the circumstances of their arrests and what's happened to
them since.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, that's all true.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They filed Fox filed a freedom of information request in
October wanting just the nationalities of the suspects on the
watch list. Six months later, customers and Border Patrol said no,
and the information is in the terrorist screening data set.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We'll have more on this coming up.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, while you were asleep, Bill Milusian was out working
in Jakumba, California, at the Mexican border two o'clock in
the morning, and there was a sizable group of teams,
mostly men, who had just crossed border, and they were
from many different countries, and it was posted on social
media this morning. It was one of the first things
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my wife saw actually and said, look at this and
it is quite startling really. So let's get Bill Malision
from Fox News on to tell us what he saw
this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Bill, how are you hey, John doing well? Man?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, it was pretty bizarre two am Jakumba, about an
hour east of the San Diego area, and it was
just masses of men really from all around the planet,
crossing illegally, very nonchalantly, just waiting for border patrol.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
To show up. Almost every single person was from the
Middle East or Asia. There was not a single Mexican national.
There was only one person from Central or South America.
Everyone else was Middle East or Asia. Some of the
countries we encountered, I talked to all of them Iranians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi's, Turkish, Chinese, Indians,
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really just all over the place and again, adult men,
not with any women or children and just crossing illegally
in mass, nonchalantly, with no worry in the world. All
of them expect that after border patrol's done processing them,
they will be released into the United States, and for
the large majority of them that is true. And John,
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the thing is, many of these guys are what DHS
calls special interest aliens. What that means is they're coming
from countries that DHS has identified have potential national security concerns,
so they're supposed to get additional vetting. Well, the problem
is border patrols only allowed to keep people in custody
for seventy two hours, and it takes a lot of
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work to do records checks on these guys. Some of
these countries are coming from don't even have records, don't
cooperate with the US, so there's really nothing to vet
them against. And that's where you see some of these
horror stories every now and then, where border patrol will
release somebody and then a week or two later they go, oops,
this person flagged on the TARRA watch list, or we
found some derogatory information on them, and we have to
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find them and go rearrest them. So this is happening
every night, every day down here in San Diego County,
and for the first time since the nineteen nineties, John
San Diego County is now number one on the southern
border for illegal crossings.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's absurd to think that anyone's gonna do vetting from
ten thousand miles away, especially with a country like Iran,
which certainly isn't.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Going to cooperate with US. I mean, the whole thing
is preposterous.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So everybody just claims asylum and they process paperwork and
then they're let go to go wherever they want, never
to be seen again.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
For a lot of them, that's the case. I mean,
you saw some of our reporting a few months ago
where there's these mass releases every day in Santa Sedro,
where these border patrol buses pull up to the Iris
trolley station and release hundreds upon hundreds of these illegal
immigrants to the city. They get in cabs, they go
on buses, they head to the airport, and they're off
into the United States. And a San Diego County supervisor
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tell us there's been about one hundred and fifty thousand
of those mass street releases just since last September, So
a very large majority of the people crossing here in
the San Diego sector are just being caught and released. Obviously,
not every single person is Some are going to be
detained and removed by Ice, but the overwhelming majority are
here to stay john and they'll get court dates years
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down the road. And that's why it's so appealing for them,
and that's why they wave to our cameras, they smile,
they flash thumbs up. There's really zero fear of any
consequences or any fear of deportation. And the other thing
is we met up with a local guy out here
who goes around and he finds and collects all of
these discarded passports and IDs that these illegal aliens drop
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once they crossed into the US. And they're from all
around the world, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, China, Saudi Arabia, and
they try to burn some of the paperwork. A lot
of it's charred. They try to tear it up, they
try to destroy it so nobody knows who they are
or where they've been. And this guy we interviewed, he's
found hundreds of these IDs and passports and he organizes
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them all by country and puts them up on a wall.
It's just remarkable that it's a security concern, John, because
you know, you have to ask, why do these people
not want us to have any clue who they are?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You know, well, I would think you'd want to keep
your ID in your passport as you continue traveling, especially
since you're an alien in a new land. I don't
understand burning them or tossing them on the ground.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And that's weird. Are they real?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You think?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Does anyone know? Or are these all fake IDs? And
that's why they're.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Taught the passports are real. Some of the IDs are fake,
we can tell just I mean, some of the pictures
are horrible. They look like photoshop and fake backgrounds and
stuff like that. Others are real, legitimate IDs that are tossed,
But the passports are all very real and you think
about it from our perspective, John, Like, as US citizens
when we travel abroad, if we lose a phone or
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a wallet, like you know, it sucks, but we'll get
through it. We'll figure it out. If you lose your passport,
you're you're you know, that's a big issue for you.
And we got all these people coming around the world
showing up here and immediately discarding what you think is
one of their most important peoples of paperwork. So once
Border patrol has them that, they can basically tell Border
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Patrol anything they want. I'm this person from this country,
and they've got no documentation. It's not like they have
a fingerprint base to run them against. Unless they've committed
a crime in the United States before, or they're on
an inner Pol list, We're not going to know who
they are. And it seems a lot of them want
it that way.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, Yet, tossing a passport is really disturbing and
suspicious because nobody would do that unless it was a
unless it was a fake identity, might have been a
real passport with a fake identity. I mean, who knows
what goes on in these countries, or they want to
disappear and become someone else while they're here.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, I mean, we have no way of knowing what
their intentions are. But what we can do is show
the endless amount of video and photos of and you
go anywhere along the southern border. John, It's not just
here in San Diego County. We've seen the same thing
in Texas and Arizona. For whatever reason, a lot of
these people just dumped the paperwork as soon as they
cross over, and in some cases try to destroy it.
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Why they're doing it, we don't know. We've we've we
we talked to people and they'll talk to us for
a little bit. They'll tell us where they're from. But
once you start asking more intrusive questions, all of a sudden,
no English, no English, you know, any.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Any sense that they traveled together, that they report part
of some kind of organized group, not tour group, but
maybe maybe that the smugglers had arrange that they enter
as a package.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They Yes, they typically traveled together by nationality. For instance,
like we've met a group of four Iranians, then there
was a huge group of Indians. The cartel smoke people
in based off their country of origin, and they could
they love these people. They consider them exotics like the Chinese,
and the further they come from, the more money they
can charge. So yes, we'll typically see groups of men
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from the same country crossing in those groups, and then
we meet them typically once they're being processed by border
patrol and split up into different categories. And the Iranian
guys we talked to actually spoke English. Asked them why
they're here. They said because Iron's a dangerous country and
there's no freedom, and they were actually joking that the
president died in the helicopter crash the other day. So
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some guys will talk to you. Others, like Chinese guys
we met today, they did not want us to see
them at all. They put mass on, they put hoods
over their face, they pulled the dry the draw strings
as tight as they could. They avoided our cameras. Every
time I walked up to them, they turned away. So
it's just a mixed bag of folks down here, John,
But it's it's obviously a national security concern when you
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have folks from this far around the world coming in
from countries that have possible terror ties. You see documents
being dumped all over the place, and any ICE agent,
border patrol agent you talk to, will tell you they
are not able to vet everybody coming into the country,
and even if they could, they don't have the time
to do it because they're not allowed to hold them
long enough.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Bill, great work. As always, you're the best device to
join you.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Thank you, Thank you very much, Bill Mallusian, Fox News
at the Border. Hey, you've been listening to the John
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