December 5, 2024 • 34 mins
There was an earthquake in Northern California and there was a tsunami warning announced. John was able to sniff out a scam call. More on the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Are the Washington Commanders going to change their name back?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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hear whatever you missed, So there's no excuse anymore. To
keep up on everything we do now. I thought it
was going to be a more exciting day than it
turned out to be because the turn of the radio. Actually,
I hear you, Garyan Shannon, there's a tsunami coming. I
thought warning an earthquake, yeah, tsunami warming. Usually when they
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say warning, it means they see it and they know
what direction it's going in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, doctor Lucy Jones says that you have to give
a warning just in case in these situations, so you
want to, you know, kind of cover yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know, but there was it was kind of a letdown.
I mean, it combined the two biggest fears you have,
earthquakes and tsunamis, and we were just talking about it
at the pastathon two days ago.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm telling you, I think about earthquakes all the time,
and here we had a seven point Oh. That's a
huge one in northern California, off the coast. So we
haven't heard of any injuries or damage or anything like that,
but a seven point oh, just imagine if it happened
smack in the middle of LA.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, that's what I worry about. Yeah, that's bigger than
the Northwidge. Craig was, yes, the North Ridge quick.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
All right, the tsunami.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's gonna hit northern California. It's slightly populated out there.
This might be this might be fun to watch, you know,
to turn on the TV. And so I'm driving in.
I was listening to Fox and they went to a
reporter who was monitoring all the screens in northern California
and he goes, I don't really see anything.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He was looking up in Eureka and there were maybe
ten minutes away from arrival, and he goes, it doesn't
seem to be much going on. I thought, this is
gonna be a dout, isn't it? Sure enough? Like ten
to fifteen minutes it was going to hit. It was
gonna hit San Francisco I think at noon and Marine
County at twelve ten. Yeah, yeah, so noon comes nothing,
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twelve to nothing. Total dut.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm very happy that nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, it wasn't going to make it to Burbank, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But I don't want other people affected by a tsunami.
Oh you get scarred by the one. How many years
ago in Thailand, Oh, we had friends that almost got
sucked into that.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Literally seriously, it was Christmas time and this family we knew.
They took their kids on an Asian vacation during Christmas
break and one of them was Thailand, and they were
going to go to that beach that morning, and that
the last minute changed their mind and went on some
other excursions.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Isn't that crazy how those things happened. Yeah, mean, it
just wasn't their time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And actually a couple of years later they were on
I think like maybe a college recruiting trip. They ended
up at an airport in the Midwest, maybe Kansas City,
and tornadoes ripped through and like tore the tore the
roof off the airport lounge for the airport concourse and
they were like hiding in an alcove to keep themselves
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from getting sucked away by the tornado.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Okay, so I don't want to hear you making fun
of my travel night.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well you're on the same list they are, because after
that happened traveling. Sorry, we're not going to ever be
traveling with you and you forget about it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I mean your last traveling night at a war.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So well, no, it was Dubai. Actually that that epic
epic flooding.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All right, The last one was the epic flooding in Dubai.
The one before that was the war in Israel.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, one week before I was supposed to go to
the day.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Cloud seating. What's the difference, Yeah, clouds.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Due, I denies that.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know, a lot of people believe in that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think I told you when I was fleeing the
hurricane in Miami and I went into the hotel and
I told the guy, look, I'm fleeing from Sarasota and
I got to spend the night here and getting on
him playing because the hurricane, and he goes, you know,
I think it's cloud seating. This is the this is
the overnight clerk at the hotel. I think it's cloud seating.
You know what, you might be right, I don't know,
(04:25):
I believe anything. Now everything's so nuts. Oh, the pasta
thought we should we should give this is a big deal.
Play some trumpets or something because I know they announced
this several times earlier, but it is a big deal
and we have raised over a million dollars in cash.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Actually, more accurately, you all have donated more than a
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And about forty tons of pasta and sauce eight pounds tech.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's son.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Believe it well, we have the best listeners ever.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean that is going to feed a lot
of children. His his charity, Bruno's charity, Katerina's Club, is
growing so much that when we first started doing this,
we would raise enough money and that's that's when we
would raise a lot less money. I mean, this has
really grown over the years. But it would cover his
costs for pasta and sauce for the for the entire year.
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But now it's grown so much that even though the
amount of money that we raise has grown so much
and only covers six months. I mean, there's a there's
a lot of hunger out there. There's a lot of
kids who and most of this is an Orange county
and one hundred percent of donations. As you know, go
to Katerina's Club and as a six am this morning,
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a million, two thousand and sixty nine dollars. Yeah, now
it's what seven hours later and seventy nine hundred and
fifty five pounds of food, so we're gonna hit eighty
thousand there. You can donate through Sunday. Through Sunday nights,
you go to Smart and Final stores in California, Nevada,
and Arizona. Donate eddy amount at checkout. You can go
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to so Cal Wendy's locations donate five dollars or more,
get a coupon, book and online anytime. You don't have
to leave your home. KFIAM six forty dot com slash pastathon,
pull out your phone or do this right now KFIAM
six forty dot com slash pastathon because what we've done
is a million dollars and that gets him through June,
so you know, let's get him through July and August too.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And you know what Michelle Michelle said, she pretty much
runs the pastathon. She said that more than fifty thousand
dollars was raised for the auctions.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, like, oh yeah, co.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hosting with you. I mean that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I know, I have been six thousand dollars. Do
we know who it is who's co hosting?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's a mission?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I got person.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wonder if it's a girl a lady this time.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't know we've ever I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Usually guys of the loud mouths or the aggressive loud
mouths you want to come in. Although the guy we
had last year was really nice, Jeff Briggs, he was
he's an attorney. In fact, he just emailed us the
other day. All right, So when we come back, we're
gonna get down to business here because I am fascinated.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Certain certain stories fascinate me for show purposes, right, and
then there's stories that really I end up all day
for personal reasons. I don't know why. I just followed.
This one fascinates me. It was terrible thing for Brian Thompson,
the United Healthcare CEO.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But when he.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
First the news came out that he got shot dad
right on the sidewalk next to the Hilton Hotel in
New York City, And I guess it's the thought I
always have because I just think this way I go.
I bet you there's some funny business going on in
his life. Something was going on. Well, there's all kinds
of possible motivations going on here. And they have much more,
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much more detail about the assassin. Not the name of
the guy, but he was not real careful in covering
his trail or not leaving evidence behind. And it may
have something to do with a book an author wrote
back in twenty ten about how difficult it is to
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get money out of insurance company. So we will tell
you about that book, and we'll tell you about all
the clues this guy left behind.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Excuse me?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know? I too fast?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I know, and then you sucked down the code I know,
and it's not good.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I just got a notification of who the contest
winner is to co host a show with me sometime
next year. Because this man bid six thousand dollars. The
money going to the pastathon obviously, and Bruno. His name
is Joshua Moody. It's another attorney. There'd be two attorneys
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in a row.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Why do you attract attorneys.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Uh, well, these these guys like to argue. They want
to take me on. That's why attorneys have, well most
of them. Yeah, but Joshua Moody is the winner. So
we'll look forward to him coming on see what his
angle is going to be. Oh, by the way, one
(09:32):
more thing, not related to the news, but I was
driving in today and I got a phone call from
a strange number I didn't recognize, popped up on my
car screen and I answer it and he introduces himself
as you know, let's say, his name is Harold from
American Express, and I'm like American Express, like like curity,
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And he says, is this John? And I said, well,
how do I know you're from American Express because normally
I get texts or emails when there's some kind of
fraud inquiry, inquirery inquiry, that's how you say that. And
he goes, well, he blew right past that, and he said, well,
can you give me the last four Well he goes,
(10:23):
what I can do is I can I can tell
you about recent purchases of yours? I said okay. He goes,
can I have the last four digits of your number?
I go, well, if you're calling me, you have my
last four digits already. I got nice, try, buddy, I
started yelling at him.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Did you hang up on it?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I hung up on good and he didn't call back.
And I looked at his number.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I still have it, and it was a seven five
to four area code, which is Fort Lauderdale. You know,
usually this is an eight hundred number that you get,
but a seven five to four number from some boiler
room operation Fort Lauderdale. And you know, it's very common
that you give out the last four digits of your number,
right and and so he kind of switched it. He
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called me in one of the last four digits and
I caught him. The bastard.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You showed him.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Nothing gets by me.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Huh, Why did you answer the phone in the first
place if you didn't recognize the number.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I usually do on the way to work, because I
never know if it has something to do with with
a guest.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mine will pop up and it will say spam, So
then I know not well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
When you call me, I got a red flash warning.
All right, now onto this this United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson shot dead uh in front of the along the
side of the Hilton hotel in New York City, and
that that's a busy part of town. That is that
is where Rockefeller Center and the Christmas tree lighting is
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just four blocks away, and they have a lot of
nice hotels there. And this guy who gunned down Thompson
left a message on the bullets. This is really out
of out of a movie. The three three of the bullets.
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One of them was engraved with the word deny, one
of them with the word depose, and the third defend.
It was engraved on the live rounds and on the shellcasings.
Now denied, deposed, defend, very close to the title of
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a book written by Jay Feineman some years ago, a
professor emeritus at Rutgers Law School who had written a
book called Delay, Deny, Defend subtitle why insurance companies don't
pay claims and what you can do about it. So
he turned delayed, deny and defend into denied, depose, and defend,
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and he shot this insurance executs to death.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Tie that to the wife, Paul Atte Thompson back in Minnesota.
She was called and she said, yeah, he's been getting
some threats and said, which yesterday I thought was curious. Basically,
I don't know a lack of coverage and thought it
was tied to her husband's job. And I thought, well,
somebody had their claim denied and is now sending threats
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to kill over the claim, which I thought was odd.
I didn't know for sure if that was plausible or not.
But if this guy is quoting the book, I mean,
he's really got to be pissed off. This guy had
won or or whoever hired him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Have you seen have you seen his face?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes? Yes, they have security.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, he's young.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, he is young.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And you can see he's got a mask on in
some of the video photos, but in others he's smiling.
He's smiling. He has no masks, so you could see.
You could see him very clearly. I mean, there must
be hundreds of people who identified him by now. There
has to be.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And this can't be a professional killer because he was
not covering his tracks for you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Now, now the wife is stranged from Thompson.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, well then that makes even more sense because she
didn't seem that sad, right.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right, She's thinking, oh he got shot to death. Oh
oh yes, that's terrible, how sad. I think that's what
struck me, it isn't They didn't say, like she burst
into tears.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I thought it was weird too, But now my.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Children are going to grow up without a father.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's like, Oh, dad just got shot dead on the sidewalk,
What do you want for dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Now? Also, he's got he did have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Some issues because the company was getting investigated by the
Department of Justice over antitrust violations, and they had accused him,
I mean, not officially. They were investigating him and some
of his other executives for selling one hundred and seventeen
million dollars worth of stock. They suspected it was insider trading.
Thompson and these other executives were aware of news that
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would cause the stock to go down, and so they
sold off a lot of stock. So when you hear
about this, or he's got some kind of estrangement with
the wife and she doesn't see him all that upset
that he's been shot, you got this Department of Justice investigation,
You've got the insider trading allegations here. There's probably other
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things going on, and they hired a hit man, but
this guy wasn't the most professional, and I guess we
got to take a break we come back, I'll go
through the all, through the evidence that he left behind.
You know, the thing is, there's so much news coverage
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now about what DNA can do, and there are so
many crime shows, right there's television crime shows and series.
There's all these podcasts on true crime. And I think
one of the things that's bolstered this entire genre is
how they can do this these forensic studies, often using DNA.
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It's a whole kind of investigation that barely existed, you know,
thirty years ago. You remember there was a big ruckus
during the oj trial because they were trying to use DNA,
and I remember there was a famous quote by one
of the jurors saying, I don't know, I don't know
nothing about no DNA. I mean, people didn't believe in
it just thirty years ago. And now everyone's an expert
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because everybody watches these shows or listens to these podcasts.
And I think that's part of the reason that this
has become such a popular story. They must be getting
a lot of hits because all the news sites, from
the New York Times to the New York Post, they're.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Pumping out dozens of articles on this shooting.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But well, I mean it just the way it happened.
The guy didn't even I mean again, I was telling
you this yesterday and off the air. You have the
Uber drivers right there right, their lights are on, you
had cars, you had people there. He just was acting
so nonchalant. He wasn't in a hurry. He wasn't hiding right,
so usually they hide underneath some things you can't see them.
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And he just he and he kept going, he kept
shooting the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Must have got this guy off the internet. He didn't
get one of the mobsters, those hit men.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Nailly ven.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's nuobie in it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah right, it must have been a rookie started up
his own business. All right, we'll do more about all
the evidence he left behind.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Next, you're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We're on every day from one until four. Remember a
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And there are plenty of clips from the apastathon, and
I urge you to watch the one where I'm getting
served the pork belly. Endeavor's surprised reaction to the pork
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belly that that is my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, oh, two o'clock, this will make you happy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Two o'clock we are going to talk to the owner
and the attorney, the owner of Conan, the German shepherd
whose life has been spared by a judge. Conan is
owned by Nelson Grande, and Nelson and the attorney, Jill Ruther,
are going to be coming on. City of Burbank tried
to classify Conan as a dangerous animal and wanted him killed,
(18:31):
but Nelson went to court because what Nelson and his
partner claimed was a neighbor was very aggressive, abusive, verbally
abusive to the dog over a long period of time.
So the dog started associating this woman with unpleasant things,
(18:53):
and so one day he'd had enough and he took
a good chomp at her. And the City of Burbank
wanted him put down, and they went to court and
they won. So we're going to talk with Nelson Grande,
the co owner of Conan, and uh also the attorney.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It's good news.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's a pit bull slash. Was it elaborate? German.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, pit bull, Yeah, I remember they said it was first.
Now they're calling it a German shepherd.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It doesn't matter. This dog was given a new lease
or should I say leash on life?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh, aren't we clever?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I know I've been dying to say that all day.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Why don't you save those for.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
The newscast because it's cliche?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Back to the back to the case of the CEO
from United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, getting getting shot to death
in the streets of New York City among the Well,
here's what they've pieced together that after he did the shooting,
he ran into an alleyway, hopped on a knee bike,
and he rode that north along sixth a half, which
is also known as Avenue of the America's into Central Park.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I didn't know this, but if you walk around New
York City all day, you'll get photographed one hundred to
two hundred times. They have cameras on every block, public cameras,
private cameras. After nine to eleven some years later, they
just install these cameras everywhere, so you can't get away
with anything.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You got to make sure you're looking good at all times.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Then that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So you never know when you're going to end up
on TV rights, Right, something happens in the neighborhood and
you know you're you're suddenly on television in the background. Uh,
he ran into an alleyway, Okay, I said that right,
hopped on an ebag. But here's the evidence he left behind.
He bought coffee, a water bottle, and two power bars
at a nearby Starbucks and tossed the bottle and the
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coffee cup into the into a trash can. So the
cops dove into the trash can and pulled the garbage out,
and they're going to be able to get DNA from that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They also and ah, you do this.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
He dropped his phone in an alleyway near the Hilton,
and they have a search warrant already to go through
the contents of the phone. So that's that's that's a
stupid hitman.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You would think if he knew he dropped his phone,
that he would turn that e bike around and go
back and trace the steps and find that the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You got to put your phone in your front pocket.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Don't These guys learn anything unless.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
It was a burner phone that he didn't care about.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Don't they go to hitman school?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I guess apparently not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Let me see here, all right, he used a silencer, Yeah,
he knew enough to do that. Yeah, and you usually
see that in the movies, but it does actually is
rarely used in real life murders. In fact, Mayor Eric Adams,
I believe used to be a cop, said, in all
my years of law enforcement, I have never seen a
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silencer before, although they had. The sales of skyrocketed from
five well five million are now registered in the US,
and thirteen years ago it was two hundred and eighty
five thousand. So I guess all these crime shows have
permeated the consciousness of would be hitman. Now he's carrying
an expensive backpack once sold by Peak Design, a company
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that sells bags for up to three hundred and thirty dollars.
The chief of Detectives, Joseph Kenney, said the backpack was
distinctive and the founder of Peak Design actually is helping
the police department to identify it as specifically which product
that they put out. There's a ten thousand dollars reward
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and they're looking in Thompson's background and social media for
clues as to who would want to kill him. He
had gotten several threats. Those are real. Now is the motivation?
Insurance denial rage at least a new term. A lot
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of people get denied claims by all the big insurance
companies and they've had it and they're pissed off. United
Healthcare and all these companies don't have to release their
denial rate, so nobody really knows to the extent.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And whether they're valid or not.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
People get denials and you know, it's nearly impossible to
challenge it. In fact, only one percent of denials are
even appealed. Like, if we get a denial for something
we submit, we don't even bother. My wife might call
and yell at a couple of clerks, but those customer
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service reps and you know, they're they're sitting at home
and they're in their robes, in their robes, and you
could yell all they want. They don't care. They're doing
crossword puzzles while you're yelling. I don't know if you
ever heard this woman. Her name's Haylo Lorenz. She was
a Washington Post writer and she's ultra woke, and she
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caused a lot of woke problems inside the Washington Post
newsroom at the height of all the woke insanity and
in newsrooms. And eventually they tossed her out because she's
just too much trouble. She was getting offended left and right.
She was writing about it, going on Twitter, you know,
she was. She was calling out various writers and editors
(24:28):
for all kinds of ridiculous offenses. She still has a
Twitter account. She went, well, actually she's she left Twitter.
You know, progressives have left Twitter and they've gone to
a new account called blue Sky.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, so many people have done that. I haven't yet.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, if you know somebody who's put out an announcement
they went to blue Sky, you know exactly what their
politics is. They think Twitter has gotten two right wing
and so they want to be among the like minded.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I haven't even checked it out yet, is what I meant.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Taylor lorenz So went on Blue Sky and this is
what she wrote. And people wonder why we want these
executives dead? How about that? And I wondered yesterday if
this was really over a denial of coverage dispute, if
this was going to unleast unleast some other copycat crimes,
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because there's just got to be thousands of people who
are stealing that they filed their healthcare claims. Our system,
by the way, is so busted. I mean, the whole
system is. It has to be bull dozed and you
have to start over again, and people are very frustrated
and angry, and insurance companies do deny a lot of
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claims and never explain it and there's no practical way
to appeal.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It and win, and we're paying so much money in premiums.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
God, the premiums go up instantly. Taylor Lorenz later shared
another use post which said, hypothetically, would it be considered
an actionable threat to start emailing other insurance CEOs as
a way to say you're next? Completely unrelated to current events,
(26:15):
by the way, So this is this is this is
on the left wing progressive Blue Sky platform. They're they're
exchanging ways to threaten insurance executives with death without explicitly
saying though saying so, so you could. Lorenz went on
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to write, people have very justified hatred towards insurance company
CEOs because these executives are responsible for an unfathomable amount
of death and suffering. As someone who's against death and suffering,
I think it's a good call to call out this
broken system and the people in power who enable it.
And then later on, after she got a backlash, she said,
(26:59):
I went into an courage peaceful letter writing campaigns.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh you didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So it's gonna be open season on insurance executives. If
Taylor Lorenz gets her gets her wish. Uh two o'clock,
two o'clock, we're gonna have the uh, the owner on
and the attorney representing Nelson Grande and their dog, Conan.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Conan the dog was spared by a judge. You were
gonna be gonna be put to get death for biting
a neighbor.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He did not deserve death, and finally we got a
just ruling.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know, one day I am gonna turn on the
TV and see you as the spokesperson for some kind
of animal animal advocacy, you know what.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That may be my next.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Career when they finally shut this place down.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yep, yep, that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from kf I
AM six.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Forty coming up after two o'clock we're gonna have a
Nelson Grande. H. He's the co owner of Conan. That's
the dog that was sentenced to death by the city
at Burbank. And Nelson went to court, had an attorney
named Jill Ryther representing Conan and the owners, and was
able to get Uh, he was able to get Conan cleared.
(28:17):
And Conan is now not going to be put to
death by Burbank. And we're going to explain this whole
this whole story which is gripped the city of Burbank
now for a week. By the way, he's up. We
got a revision on his ancestry. Uh, he's a pitbull
lab mix. There you go, So that is the pitbull
lab mix.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I have.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Several examples of woke politics being in its death throws.
You heard about the Washington Commanders who used to be
the Washington Redskins. Yes, for a few years, and then
people during the hysterical years of wokes started screaming, that's racist,
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it's denigrating, it's degrading. Well, they may go back to
being the Redskins. And this all started with the team's
desire to maybe start playing in their old stadium again.
They used to play in Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium,
but it's gotten very old, and so they moved out
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of the stadium, but they'd like to move back in,
but they needed the federal government to go along with it,
because the federal government controls Washington, d C. And they
control the public buildings in that city. And they made
a deal to go back to possibly go back to
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the stadium if the team would feature their original logo
again because the family of the Indian chief who served
as the face of the Redskins for forty eight years,
the family wants the team to change their name back
and use the logo of the Blackfeet chief that you
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could see in the insignia, and that became that became
a deal point. The old owner and the new owner
had said the Redskins name would not return, but then
the other day Magic Johnson, who owns a piece of
the team, says everything's on the table, especially after this year.
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We'll see where we are with the name. The new
owner is named Josh Harris. He's a billionaire. Everybody seems
to be a billionaire now and he bought the team
with a group that included Magic Johnson, and so it
turns out the family was very upset that they removed
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the insignia of the former Blackfeet chief, and apparently the
whole all Blackfeet nation was upset as well. And I
remember reading years ago when this was a controversy. These
woke activists had made a big ruckus out of nothing.
But the Washington Post did a poll of Native Americans
and found ninety percent loved the name Redskins and they
(31:12):
didn't want it to change. They didn't take it as
an insult or some kind of derogatory comment like the
Kansas City Chiefs and the Atlanta Breys. They were proud
of it that you know, a football team or a
baseball team. This is a team of fighters, team of warriors,
and they took it as as a great honor and
(31:35):
a compliment. But then you know, you had the hipster
wokers get involved, people who probably never played football, they
don't like sports at all, but you know they would.
They would make a lot of noise, and eventually, corporate people,
being what they are, they get frightened, They get tired,
the sponsors get get get get frightened. Native Americans supported
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the Redskins name. You believe that, and the Blackfeet Chief
family wants the name back. The family said, the fans
want him back, and we want him back. So it
seems for sure that the insignia is coming back with
his profile, and maybe that team nickname will return as well,
(32:21):
because it was around for eighty seven years. I remember
for a time the Idiot TV Networks when they carried
a Washington Redskins game, and before they changed to the Commanders,
they wouldn't say the name Redskins on screen. They used
the graphic that said Washington.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Well before they changed their name to the Commanders, they
were undecided and they just went by the Washington football team.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I remember that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
They were the Washington football team a lot a bunch
of fools.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
So anyway, maybe the Redskins are coming back.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's really funny.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think in Atlanta, where the breat Braves play, they
used to have a character called Chief Nackahoma, and every
time a Brave hit a home run, Chief Knackahoma would
come out of his tepee and right field and do
a dance around the tepee and then go back inside,
and you had the tomahawk chop and fans would would
thrust their arm as if they were holding a tomahawk
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and they still do that, which offends all the woke
sports riders.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, every year I read one of those.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Columns every time the Braves are in the playoffs and
the whole country gets to see the Braves fans do
the tomahawk chop.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Braves fans do it. The Chiefs fans do with Florida
State seminoles, fans do it. There you go, I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Just can't believe this. This is so racist.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
All Right, we come back. We're gonna have Nelson Grande on.
He's the co owner of Conan, the dog who was
sentenced to death by those cretans on the city of Burbank,
the bureaucrats and Jill ryther Is attorney. They got Conan
off death row. He's gonna to live. Debor Mark live
in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been
(34:03):
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hear the show live on KFI Am six forty from
one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of
course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We are on every day from one until four. And
then if suddenly four o'clock hits and you were busy
working or some sorry excuse like that, you go to
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(00:23):
hear whatever you missed, So there's no excuse anymore. To
keep up on everything we do now. I thought it
was going to be a more exciting day than it
turned out to be because the turn of the radio. Actually,
I hear you, Garyan Shannon, there's a tsunami coming. I
thought warning an earthquake, yeah, tsunami warming. Usually when they
(00:44):
say warning, it means they see it and they know
what direction it's going in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, doctor Lucy Jones says that you have to give
a warning just in case in these situations, so you
want to, you know, kind of cover yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know, but there was it was kind of a letdown.
I mean, it combined the two biggest fears you have,
earthquakes and tsunamis, and we were just talking about it
at the pastathon two days ago.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm telling you, I think about earthquakes all the time,
and here we had a seven point Oh. That's a
huge one in northern California, off the coast. So we
haven't heard of any injuries or damage or anything like that,
but a seven point oh, just imagine if it happened
smack in the middle of LA.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, that's what I worry about. Yeah, that's bigger than
the Northwidge. Craig was, yes, the North Ridge quick.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
All right, the tsunami.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's gonna hit northern California. It's slightly populated out there.
This might be this might be fun to watch, you know,
to turn on the TV. And so I'm driving in.
I was listening to Fox and they went to a
reporter who was monitoring all the screens in northern California
and he goes, I don't really see anything.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He was looking up in Eureka and there were maybe
ten minutes away from arrival, and he goes, it doesn't
seem to be much going on. I thought, this is
gonna be a dout, isn't it? Sure enough? Like ten
to fifteen minutes it was going to hit. It was
gonna hit San Francisco I think at noon and Marine
County at twelve ten. Yeah, yeah, so noon comes nothing,
(02:18):
twelve to nothing. Total dut.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm very happy that nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, it wasn't going to make it to Burbank, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But I don't want other people affected by a tsunami.
Oh you get scarred by the one. How many years
ago in Thailand, Oh, we had friends that almost got
sucked into that.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Literally seriously, it was Christmas time and this family we knew.
They took their kids on an Asian vacation during Christmas
break and one of them was Thailand, and they were
going to go to that beach that morning, and that
the last minute changed their mind and went on some
other excursions.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Isn't that crazy how those things happened. Yeah, mean, it
just wasn't their time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And actually a couple of years later they were on
I think like maybe a college recruiting trip. They ended
up at an airport in the Midwest, maybe Kansas City,
and tornadoes ripped through and like tore the tore the
roof off the airport lounge for the airport concourse and
they were like hiding in an alcove to keep themselves
(03:24):
from getting sucked away by the tornado.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Okay, so I don't want to hear you making fun
of my travel night.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well you're on the same list they are, because after
that happened traveling. Sorry, we're not going to ever be
traveling with you and you forget about it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I mean your last traveling night at a war.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So well, no, it was Dubai. Actually that that epic
epic flooding.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All right, The last one was the epic flooding in Dubai.
The one before that was the war in Israel.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, one week before I was supposed to go to
the day.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Cloud seating. What's the difference, Yeah, clouds.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Due, I denies that.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know, a lot of people believe in that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think I told you when I was fleeing the
hurricane in Miami and I went into the hotel and
I told the guy, look, I'm fleeing from Sarasota and
I got to spend the night here and getting on
him playing because the hurricane, and he goes, you know,
I think it's cloud seating. This is the this is
the overnight clerk at the hotel. I think it's cloud seating.
You know what, you might be right, I don't know,
(04:25):
I believe anything. Now everything's so nuts. Oh, the pasta
thought we should we should give this is a big deal.
Play some trumpets or something because I know they announced
this several times earlier, but it is a big deal
and we have raised over a million dollars in cash.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Actually, more accurately, you all have donated more than a
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And about forty tons of pasta and sauce eight pounds tech.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's son.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Believe it well, we have the best listeners ever.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean that is going to feed a lot
of children. His his charity, Bruno's charity, Katerina's Club, is
growing so much that when we first started doing this,
we would raise enough money and that's that's when we
would raise a lot less money. I mean, this has
really grown over the years. But it would cover his
costs for pasta and sauce for the for the entire year.
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But now it's grown so much that even though the
amount of money that we raise has grown so much
and only covers six months. I mean, there's a there's
a lot of hunger out there. There's a lot of
kids who and most of this is an Orange county
and one hundred percent of donations. As you know, go
to Katerina's Club and as a six am this morning,
(05:45):
a million, two thousand and sixty nine dollars. Yeah, now
it's what seven hours later and seventy nine hundred and
fifty five pounds of food, so we're gonna hit eighty
thousand there. You can donate through Sunday. Through Sunday nights,
you go to Smart and Final stores in California, Nevada,
and Arizona. Donate eddy amount at checkout. You can go
(06:09):
to so Cal Wendy's locations donate five dollars or more,
get a coupon, book and online anytime. You don't have
to leave your home. KFIAM six forty dot com slash pastathon,
pull out your phone or do this right now KFIAM
six forty dot com slash pastathon because what we've done
is a million dollars and that gets him through June,
so you know, let's get him through July and August too.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And you know what Michelle Michelle said, she pretty much
runs the pastathon. She said that more than fifty thousand
dollars was raised for the auctions.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, like, oh yeah, co.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hosting with you. I mean that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I know, I have been six thousand dollars. Do
we know who it is who's co hosting?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's a mission?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I got person.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wonder if it's a girl a lady this time.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't know we've ever I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Usually guys of the loud mouths or the aggressive loud
mouths you want to come in. Although the guy we
had last year was really nice, Jeff Briggs, he was
he's an attorney. In fact, he just emailed us the
other day. All right, So when we come back, we're
gonna get down to business here because I am fascinated.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Certain certain stories fascinate me for show purposes, right, and
then there's stories that really I end up all day
for personal reasons. I don't know why. I just followed.
This one fascinates me. It was terrible thing for Brian Thompson,
the United Healthcare CEO.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But when he.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
First the news came out that he got shot dad
right on the sidewalk next to the Hilton Hotel in
New York City, And I guess it's the thought I
always have because I just think this way I go.
I bet you there's some funny business going on in
his life. Something was going on. Well, there's all kinds
of possible motivations going on here. And they have much more,
(08:00):
much more detail about the assassin. Not the name of
the guy, but he was not real careful in covering
his trail or not leaving evidence behind. And it may
have something to do with a book an author wrote
back in twenty ten about how difficult it is to
(08:21):
get money out of insurance company. So we will tell
you about that book, and we'll tell you about all
the clues this guy left behind.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Excuse me?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know? I too fast?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I know, and then you sucked down the code I know,
and it's not good.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I just got a notification of who the contest
winner is to co host a show with me sometime
next year. Because this man bid six thousand dollars. The
money going to the pastathon obviously, and Bruno. His name
is Joshua Moody. It's another attorney. There'd be two attorneys
(09:08):
in a row.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Why do you attract attorneys.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Uh, well, these these guys like to argue. They want
to take me on. That's why attorneys have, well most
of them. Yeah, but Joshua Moody is the winner. So
we'll look forward to him coming on see what his
angle is going to be. Oh, by the way, one
(09:32):
more thing, not related to the news, but I was
driving in today and I got a phone call from
a strange number I didn't recognize, popped up on my
car screen and I answer it and he introduces himself
as you know, let's say, his name is Harold from
American Express, and I'm like American Express, like like curity,
(10:00):
And he says, is this John? And I said, well,
how do I know you're from American Express because normally
I get texts or emails when there's some kind of
fraud inquiry, inquirery inquiry, that's how you say that. And
he goes, well, he blew right past that, and he said, well,
can you give me the last four Well he goes,
(10:23):
what I can do is I can I can tell
you about recent purchases of yours? I said okay. He goes,
can I have the last four digits of your number?
I go, well, if you're calling me, you have my
last four digits already. I got nice, try, buddy, I
started yelling at him.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Did you hang up on it?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I hung up on good and he didn't call back.
And I looked at his number.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I still have it, and it was a seven five
to four area code, which is Fort Lauderdale. You know,
usually this is an eight hundred number that you get,
but a seven five to four number from some boiler
room operation Fort Lauderdale. And you know, it's very common
that you give out the last four digits of your number,
right and and so he kind of switched it. He
(11:09):
called me in one of the last four digits and
I caught him. The bastard.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You showed him.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Nothing gets by me.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Huh, Why did you answer the phone in the first
place if you didn't recognize the number.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I usually do on the way to work, because I
never know if it has something to do with with
a guest.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mine will pop up and it will say spam, So
then I know not well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
When you call me, I got a red flash warning.
All right, now onto this this United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson shot dead uh in front of the along the
side of the Hilton hotel in New York City, and
that that's a busy part of town. That is that
is where Rockefeller Center and the Christmas tree lighting is
(11:52):
just four blocks away, and they have a lot of
nice hotels there. And this guy who gunned down Thompson
left a message on the bullets. This is really out
of out of a movie. The three three of the bullets.
(12:14):
One of them was engraved with the word deny, one
of them with the word depose, and the third defend.
It was engraved on the live rounds and on the shellcasings.
Now denied, deposed, defend, very close to the title of
(12:34):
a book written by Jay Feineman some years ago, a
professor emeritus at Rutgers Law School who had written a
book called Delay, Deny, Defend subtitle why insurance companies don't
pay claims and what you can do about it. So
he turned delayed, deny and defend into denied, depose, and defend,
(12:58):
and he shot this insurance executs to death.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Tie that to the wife, Paul Atte Thompson back in Minnesota.
She was called and she said, yeah, he's been getting
some threats and said, which yesterday I thought was curious. Basically,
I don't know a lack of coverage and thought it
was tied to her husband's job. And I thought, well,
somebody had their claim denied and is now sending threats
(13:25):
to kill over the claim, which I thought was odd.
I didn't know for sure if that was plausible or not.
But if this guy is quoting the book, I mean,
he's really got to be pissed off. This guy had
won or or whoever hired him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Have you seen have you seen his face?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes? Yes, they have security.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, he's young.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, he is young.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And you can see he's got a mask on in
some of the video photos, but in others he's smiling.
He's smiling. He has no masks, so you could see.
You could see him very clearly. I mean, there must
be hundreds of people who identified him by now. There
has to be.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And this can't be a professional killer because he was
not covering his tracks for you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Now, now the wife is stranged from Thompson.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, well then that makes even more sense because she
didn't seem that sad, right.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right, She's thinking, oh he got shot to death. Oh
oh yes, that's terrible, how sad. I think that's what
struck me, it isn't They didn't say, like she burst
into tears.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I thought it was weird too, But now my.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Children are going to grow up without a father.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's like, Oh, dad just got shot dead on the sidewalk,
What do you want for dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Now? Also, he's got he did have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Some issues because the company was getting investigated by the
Department of Justice over antitrust violations, and they had accused him,
I mean, not officially. They were investigating him and some
of his other executives for selling one hundred and seventeen
million dollars worth of stock. They suspected it was insider trading.
Thompson and these other executives were aware of news that
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would cause the stock to go down, and so they
sold off a lot of stock. So when you hear
about this, or he's got some kind of estrangement with
the wife and she doesn't see him all that upset
that he's been shot, you got this Department of Justice investigation,
You've got the insider trading allegations here. There's probably other
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things going on, and they hired a hit man, but
this guy wasn't the most professional, and I guess we
got to take a break we come back, I'll go
through the all, through the evidence that he left behind.
You know, the thing is, there's so much news coverage
(15:53):
now about what DNA can do, and there are so
many crime shows, right there's television crime shows and series.
There's all these podcasts on true crime. And I think
one of the things that's bolstered this entire genre is
how they can do this these forensic studies, often using DNA.
(16:14):
It's a whole kind of investigation that barely existed, you know,
thirty years ago. You remember there was a big ruckus
during the oj trial because they were trying to use DNA,
and I remember there was a famous quote by one
of the jurors saying, I don't know, I don't know
nothing about no DNA. I mean, people didn't believe in
it just thirty years ago. And now everyone's an expert
(16:36):
because everybody watches these shows or listens to these podcasts.
And I think that's part of the reason that this
has become such a popular story. They must be getting
a lot of hits because all the news sites, from
the New York Times to the New York Post, they're.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Pumping out dozens of articles on this shooting.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But well, I mean it just the way it happened.
The guy didn't even I mean again, I was telling
you this yesterday and off the air. You have the
Uber drivers right there right, their lights are on, you
had cars, you had people there. He just was acting
so nonchalant. He wasn't in a hurry. He wasn't hiding right,
so usually they hide underneath some things you can't see them.
(17:13):
And he just he and he kept going, he kept
shooting the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Must have got this guy off the internet. He didn't
get one of the mobsters, those hit men.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Nailly ven.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's nuobie in it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah right, it must have been a rookie started up
his own business. All right, we'll do more about all
the evidence he left behind.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Next, you're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We're on every day from one until four. Remember a
podcast after four o'clock. If you missed any part of
the show. John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app,
and you could follow us on social media John Cobelt Radio.
And there are plenty of clips from the apastathon, and
I urge you to watch the one where I'm getting
served the pork belly. Endeavor's surprised reaction to the pork
(17:59):
belly that that is my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, oh, two o'clock, this will make you happy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Two o'clock we are going to talk to the owner
and the attorney, the owner of Conan, the German shepherd
whose life has been spared by a judge. Conan is
owned by Nelson Grande, and Nelson and the attorney, Jill Ruther,
are going to be coming on. City of Burbank tried
to classify Conan as a dangerous animal and wanted him killed,
(18:31):
but Nelson went to court because what Nelson and his
partner claimed was a neighbor was very aggressive, abusive, verbally
abusive to the dog over a long period of time.
So the dog started associating this woman with unpleasant things,
(18:53):
and so one day he'd had enough and he took
a good chomp at her. And the City of Burbank
wanted him put down, and they went to court and
they won. So we're going to talk with Nelson Grande,
the co owner of Conan, and uh also the attorney.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It's good news.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's a pit bull slash. Was it elaborate? German.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, pit bull, Yeah, I remember they said it was first.
Now they're calling it a German shepherd.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It doesn't matter. This dog was given a new lease
or should I say leash on life?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh, aren't we clever?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I know I've been dying to say that all day.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Why don't you save those for.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
The newscast because it's cliche?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Back to the back to the case of the CEO
from United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, getting getting shot to death
in the streets of New York City among the Well,
here's what they've pieced together that after he did the shooting,
he ran into an alleyway, hopped on a knee bike,
and he rode that north along sixth a half, which
is also known as Avenue of the America's into Central Park.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I didn't know this, but if you walk around New
York City all day, you'll get photographed one hundred to
two hundred times. They have cameras on every block, public cameras,
private cameras. After nine to eleven some years later, they
just install these cameras everywhere, so you can't get away
with anything.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You got to make sure you're looking good at all times.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Then that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So you never know when you're going to end up
on TV rights, Right, something happens in the neighborhood and
you know you're you're suddenly on television in the background. Uh,
he ran into an alleyway, Okay, I said that right,
hopped on an ebag. But here's the evidence he left behind.
He bought coffee, a water bottle, and two power bars
at a nearby Starbucks and tossed the bottle and the
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coffee cup into the into a trash can. So the
cops dove into the trash can and pulled the garbage out,
and they're going to be able to get DNA from that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They also and ah, you do this.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
He dropped his phone in an alleyway near the Hilton,
and they have a search warrant already to go through
the contents of the phone. So that's that's that's a
stupid hitman.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You would think if he knew he dropped his phone,
that he would turn that e bike around and go
back and trace the steps and find that the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You got to put your phone in your front pocket.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Don't These guys learn anything unless.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
It was a burner phone that he didn't care about.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Don't they go to hitman school?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I guess apparently not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Let me see here, all right, he used a silencer, Yeah,
he knew enough to do that. Yeah, and you usually
see that in the movies, but it does actually is
rarely used in real life murders. In fact, Mayor Eric Adams,
I believe used to be a cop, said, in all
my years of law enforcement, I have never seen a
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silencer before, although they had. The sales of skyrocketed from
five well five million are now registered in the US,
and thirteen years ago it was two hundred and eighty
five thousand. So I guess all these crime shows have
permeated the consciousness of would be hitman. Now he's carrying
an expensive backpack once sold by Peak Design, a company
(22:21):
that sells bags for up to three hundred and thirty dollars.
The chief of Detectives, Joseph Kenney, said the backpack was
distinctive and the founder of Peak Design actually is helping
the police department to identify it as specifically which product
that they put out. There's a ten thousand dollars reward
(22:43):
and they're looking in Thompson's background and social media for
clues as to who would want to kill him. He
had gotten several threats. Those are real. Now is the motivation?
Insurance denial rage at least a new term. A lot
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of people get denied claims by all the big insurance
companies and they've had it and they're pissed off. United
Healthcare and all these companies don't have to release their
denial rate, so nobody really knows to the extent.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And whether they're valid or not.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
People get denials and you know, it's nearly impossible to
challenge it. In fact, only one percent of denials are
even appealed. Like, if we get a denial for something
we submit, we don't even bother. My wife might call
and yell at a couple of clerks, but those customer
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service reps and you know, they're they're sitting at home
and they're in their robes, in their robes, and you
could yell all they want. They don't care. They're doing
crossword puzzles while you're yelling. I don't know if you
ever heard this woman. Her name's Haylo Lorenz. She was
a Washington Post writer and she's ultra woke, and she
(24:08):
caused a lot of woke problems inside the Washington Post
newsroom at the height of all the woke insanity and
in newsrooms. And eventually they tossed her out because she's
just too much trouble. She was getting offended left and right.
She was writing about it, going on Twitter, you know,
she was. She was calling out various writers and editors
(24:28):
for all kinds of ridiculous offenses. She still has a
Twitter account. She went, well, actually she's she left Twitter.
You know, progressives have left Twitter and they've gone to
a new account called blue Sky.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, so many people have done that. I haven't yet.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, if you know somebody who's put out an announcement
they went to blue Sky, you know exactly what their
politics is. They think Twitter has gotten two right wing
and so they want to be among the like minded.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I haven't even checked it out yet, is what I meant.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Taylor lorenz So went on Blue Sky and this is
what she wrote. And people wonder why we want these
executives dead? How about that? And I wondered yesterday if
this was really over a denial of coverage dispute, if
this was going to unleast unleast some other copycat crimes,
(25:22):
because there's just got to be thousands of people who
are stealing that they filed their healthcare claims. Our system,
by the way, is so busted. I mean, the whole
system is. It has to be bull dozed and you
have to start over again, and people are very frustrated
and angry, and insurance companies do deny a lot of
(25:43):
claims and never explain it and there's no practical way
to appeal.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It and win, and we're paying so much money in premiums.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
God, the premiums go up instantly. Taylor Lorenz later shared
another use post which said, hypothetically, would it be considered
an actionable threat to start emailing other insurance CEOs as
a way to say you're next? Completely unrelated to current events,
(26:15):
by the way, So this is this is this is
on the left wing progressive Blue Sky platform. They're they're
exchanging ways to threaten insurance executives with death without explicitly
saying though saying so, so you could. Lorenz went on
(26:36):
to write, people have very justified hatred towards insurance company
CEOs because these executives are responsible for an unfathomable amount
of death and suffering. As someone who's against death and suffering,
I think it's a good call to call out this
broken system and the people in power who enable it.
And then later on, after she got a backlash, she said,
(26:59):
I went into an courage peaceful letter writing campaigns.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh you didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So it's gonna be open season on insurance executives. If
Taylor Lorenz gets her gets her wish. Uh two o'clock,
two o'clock, we're gonna have the uh, the owner on
and the attorney representing Nelson Grande and their dog, Conan.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Conan the dog was spared by a judge. You were
gonna be gonna be put to get death for biting
a neighbor.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He did not deserve death, and finally we got a
just ruling.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know, one day I am gonna turn on the
TV and see you as the spokesperson for some kind
of animal animal advocacy, you know what.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That may be my next.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Career when they finally shut this place down.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yep, yep, that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from kf I
AM six.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Forty coming up after two o'clock we're gonna have a
Nelson Grande. H. He's the co owner of Conan. That's
the dog that was sentenced to death by the city
at Burbank. And Nelson went to court, had an attorney
named Jill Ryther representing Conan and the owners, and was
able to get Uh, he was able to get Conan cleared.
(28:17):
And Conan is now not going to be put to
death by Burbank. And we're going to explain this whole
this whole story which is gripped the city of Burbank
now for a week. By the way, he's up. We
got a revision on his ancestry. Uh, he's a pitbull
lab mix. There you go, So that is the pitbull
lab mix.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I have.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Several examples of woke politics being in its death throws.
You heard about the Washington Commanders who used to be
the Washington Redskins. Yes, for a few years, and then
people during the hysterical years of wokes started screaming, that's racist,
(29:01):
it's denigrating, it's degrading. Well, they may go back to
being the Redskins. And this all started with the team's
desire to maybe start playing in their old stadium again.
They used to play in Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium,
but it's gotten very old, and so they moved out
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of the stadium, but they'd like to move back in,
but they needed the federal government to go along with it,
because the federal government controls Washington, d C. And they
control the public buildings in that city. And they made
a deal to go back to possibly go back to
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the stadium if the team would feature their original logo
again because the family of the Indian chief who served
as the face of the Redskins for forty eight years,
the family wants the team to change their name back
and use the logo of the Blackfeet chief that you
(30:07):
could see in the insignia, and that became that became
a deal point. The old owner and the new owner
had said the Redskins name would not return, but then
the other day Magic Johnson, who owns a piece of
the team, says everything's on the table, especially after this year.
(30:28):
We'll see where we are with the name. The new
owner is named Josh Harris. He's a billionaire. Everybody seems
to be a billionaire now and he bought the team
with a group that included Magic Johnson, and so it
turns out the family was very upset that they removed
(30:48):
the insignia of the former Blackfeet chief, and apparently the
whole all Blackfeet nation was upset as well. And I
remember reading years ago when this was a controversy. These
woke activists had made a big ruckus out of nothing.
But the Washington Post did a poll of Native Americans
and found ninety percent loved the name Redskins and they
(31:12):
didn't want it to change. They didn't take it as
an insult or some kind of derogatory comment like the
Kansas City Chiefs and the Atlanta Breys. They were proud
of it that you know, a football team or a
baseball team. This is a team of fighters, team of warriors,
and they took it as as a great honor and
(31:35):
a compliment. But then you know, you had the hipster
wokers get involved, people who probably never played football, they
don't like sports at all, but you know they would.
They would make a lot of noise, and eventually, corporate people,
being what they are, they get frightened, They get tired,
the sponsors get get get get frightened. Native Americans supported
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the Redskins name. You believe that, and the Blackfeet Chief
family wants the name back. The family said, the fans
want him back, and we want him back. So it
seems for sure that the insignia is coming back with
his profile, and maybe that team nickname will return as well,
(32:21):
because it was around for eighty seven years. I remember
for a time the Idiot TV Networks when they carried
a Washington Redskins game, and before they changed to the Commanders,
they wouldn't say the name Redskins on screen. They used
the graphic that said Washington.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Well before they changed their name to the Commanders, they
were undecided and they just went by the Washington football team.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I remember that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
They were the Washington football team a lot a bunch
of fools.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
So anyway, maybe the Redskins are coming back.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's really funny.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think in Atlanta, where the breat Braves play, they
used to have a character called Chief Nackahoma, and every
time a Brave hit a home run, Chief Knackahoma would
come out of his tepee and right field and do
a dance around the tepee and then go back inside,
and you had the tomahawk chop and fans would would
thrust their arm as if they were holding a tomahawk
(33:20):
and they still do that, which offends all the woke
sports riders.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, every year I read one of those.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Columns every time the Braves are in the playoffs and
the whole country gets to see the Braves fans do
the tomahawk chop.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Braves fans do it. The Chiefs fans do with Florida
State seminoles, fans do it. There you go, I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Just can't believe this. This is so racist.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
All Right, we come back. We're gonna have Nelson Grande on.
He's the co owner of Conan, the dog who was
sentenced to death by those cretans on the city of Burbank,
the bureaucrats and Jill ryther Is attorney. They got Conan
off death row. He's gonna to live. Debor Mark live
in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been
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