December 10, 2024 • 34 mins
Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the Franklin Fire burning in Malibu. Who is Luigi Mangione, the suspect in custody for allegedly killing the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Luigi Mangione was yelling at the media as cops led him into court from the car. A woman died doing a Kambo ceremony.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. Welcome,
How are you got a boatload of stuff today? We
are gonna get on later in the show. We've got
to play some clips of Tom Homan on Fox News
over the weekend. The borders are for Trump and he
is he is telling off these cities that don't want
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to cooperate with immigrant removal. He's going to be really tough.
I hope all these idiot politicians in La put up
big resistance. Wait till they see what happens and Homan
explains it. Uh, we're gonna play you some clips. Also,
Karine Jean Pierre was cornered by a CBS reporter over
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all all the lies she and Joe Biden told about
the pardon as there's some funny stuff there as well,
and probably above all this Luigi Menngione, what a what
a nut bag And he went a little crazy today
being let into court. He started putting up a fight
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with the officers. They hate to throw him up against
the wall and he was shouting nonsense. All that ahead.
But we got to keep an eye on Malibu, which
are erupted into flames last night, I guess around eleven
o'clock at night, and it's burned over two thousand acres.
We got Alex Stone from ABC News in Malibu to
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see what's up at the moment.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Alex, how are you hey there? John?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, And right now I'm looking. I'm kind of where
Pepperdine is in there. There's one plume that is just
above Pepperdine up in the canyons, up at the top
of the hills. And there's another little bit to the south,
the neighborhood, the Sarah Retreat I think it's pronounced Sarah
ce r r a retreat. They've got some flame activity
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that's way up above that neighborhood, but for the most
part in the more populated area is down lower. It
looks a lot better than it did even a couple
hours ago, let alone know overnight when people were running
and trying to get out of the area. We've been
talking to a lot of people who say that they
have been through this so many times that they have
gone and they have bought their own gear, their own
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fire hoses, their own pumps to do it on their own,
that they know that it is every man and woman
for themselves, and that that is what they had to
do here in Malibou last night, that getting into some
of these canyons that they know, firefighters aren't going to
be able to do it in time when the winds
are running at sixty sixty five miles an hours they
were last night some of the peak guts that they recorded,
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so they have to do it on their own, and
they did that. A lot of homeowners decided they weren't
going to go and they fought back the flames. We
know in one area at least one home burned to
the ground. Others though, were saved by homeowners and firefighters
working together. But it was a hard fight that went
on here overnight.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Are there any other neighborhoods in danger right now? Are
the flames advancing to other developments.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And technically everything is still in danger. If you were
to talk to firefighters, and I'm sure tonight when they
give their evening up, they will still say that they
are in danger because they are that they don't really
have any containment around this, They don't have any control
of it. So if things were to kick up again,
that all of these neighborhoods would be in danger, and
there is still some flame activity in some of the neighborhoods,
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but it's not raging around pepper Dye and around the
neighborhoods look like it was earlier. So it does look
a lot better. The homes are still in danger. They
really need the conditions to change. It is just so
dry out here right now. It is what is my
watch say, fourteen percent humidity here right now that in
some areas it could get down to two percent, and
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that's just crazy low. And that's where you get these
bushes that just explode when they ignite, and then it's
it's off from there and again in the wind than
it really does run. But right now it's more of
a humidity situation and a little bit of the warmth,
but not the wind. It's not windy at all. There's
no breeze. The air is completely still right now. So
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we're lucky because of that. It could I mean, if
we had wind all day today, this thing would have
been raging through the day. Luckily we don't have that.
The Chinook helicopters they're doing what we've seen on so
many Malamit wildfires over the years, filling up at the
pond right out front of Pepperdine and the chinooks are
coming down. They're using taking off again. I mean it
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is choreographed. One after another. One chinook comes in, big
military helicopter looking at military helicopter, takes off. The next
one comes in, dumps their water, comes back around and
does it again.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I understand they had helicopters able to dump water overnight
as well, which wasn't true in previous years, and that
had a great effect at tamping down the fire, that
they could work all night and not just wait until
the sun road.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
That was a major game changer in this the One
Cow fire. They have their fire hawks now that can
work overnight. LAFD they for a while have had overnight
air ops and they're able to do it now instead
of it just burning at night and having to rely
on the ground teams to go in and many areas
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that can't get into when it's high up in the
mountains and when it's weight deep in the canyons where
the helicopters can get in there. And then once sunlight
came this morning, the first I saw were the super
scoopers that came in the big yellow giant you know,
looks like something out of some cartoon that come in
Quebec one and two as they're called. They're out of Quebec,
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Canada and license down here for the fire season and
essentially rented with their pilots that they came in and
began making their big drops, and then other heavy air
tankers that come in through the day. So I mean,
it really is like an air force out here right now.
But it was the nighttime drops that those make a
big difference where they just don't can't, you know, like
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they had to let it just run. In previous years,
the Welthy Fire and others when it became night time
a few exceptions, they couldn't really get in there with
the helicopters, and this time they were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Anybody had been hurt, Nobody that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We know of. You know, one guy he interviewed who
battled back the flames all night in his home. He
had burn marks all of his shirt, but and he
said it was super hot and he was really sore,
but he was alright. Nobody else, luckily, that we know,
has been hurt. There was one La Sheriff's patrol car
out of Santa Clarita that came down to help out
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the burned up The deputy was able to get out
of it, and so nobody was hurt there. The patrol
car is gone, but the deputy's all right. There have
been a lot of close calls, but luckily nobody hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
All right, Great news, Alex Stone, thank you, you got it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Thanks Jean Alex Stone.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
ABC News in Malibu watching one and the fires burn,
and it is remarkable that there's been a minimal amount
of homes destroyed and no apparent injuries, no deaths. This
is like one of the quickest responses that I can remember,
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because they were able to dump so much water in
the overnight hours, because at first it looked like this
was going to be one of those really tragic fires.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And well it also helps that the winds, because the
winds were supposed to just be crazy through tomorrow and
so they they they're not as bad as we were told.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, it was supposed to be high wind warnings right
through Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean they were supposed to be at the height
of the winds right now exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I mean there still are red flag warnings through six
o'clock tomorrow night. But it looks like the wind just
isn't as bad, and so if it was crazy windy
out in Malibu, things could have been a whole lot worse.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All Right, we come back Luigi Menngione.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He is the guy who that healthcare CEO Brian Thompson
in New York City last week. And what a background
this guy had. Probably nobody expected the shooter to have
this kind of story, and he's really crazy, but he's
really not different than the well, his background is indifferent
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from the backgrounds that a lot of these crazies have
had over the years. These want to be terrorists, these protesters, advocates, anarchists,
it's kind of the same psychological profile. We'll talk about
it when we come back and give you the latest
because he has been dragged into court today.
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app Luigi Menngion. He is the guy that we've all
seen on video shooting that healthcare executive Brian Thompson to
death in New York City, and you probably know by
now they caught him yesterday in that McDonald's in Altoona.
I read today that there were two guys wether. They're
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a group of guys sitting at a table and one
said to the other, Hey, that looks like the shooter
in the video, and it was kind of a joke,
and one of the McDonald's employees overheard them, and he
looked himself and decided, Yeah, that is the guy. And
that employee you ought to get that fifty thousand dollars reward.
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So he's the one who called the police. Now, Mangione,
let me tell you nothing surprises but right, because this
world is so nuts and everybody unleashes their dark side
on the internet now and a lot of people like
to perform and they like to troll.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Any adulation.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
For this bastard, you ought to be put away in
a mental institution because he's nothing but a cold blooded killer.
There's nothing special about him. He fits the exact profile
of something I've seen probably for about twenty five years now,
and we've had a lot of them on the West Coast,
protesters from Seattle, Portland, here in Los Angeles. I remember
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when they were protesting trade summits in Seattle twenty five
years ago. You had Antifa going crazy in Portland over
those idiotic defund the police protests the whole George Floyd overreaction.
And down here in LA you've seen these guys. Guys
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they're usually homeless advocates. They fight for the right for
homeless people to die in the street. What do they
all have in common? All these protesters I mentioned over
the last twenty five years, for all these different causes.
Most of them are upper upper middle class to wealthy
white kids, usually well educated, and their fathers are executives.
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Their mothers are usually and heavily involved in charity in
the community. And it's the same guy over and over again.
I mean, down here in LA we had homeless advocates.
One guy's dad was I think an Academy Award winner.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He was in the movie industry.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They grow up in mansions, they go to very expensive
private schools, and I don't know what the psychological profile is.
I've read a little about this, but you've got to
believe that they've internalized a lot of resentment and hatred
of their parents, and now they want to take it
out on other wealthy people, other people who come from
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the corporate world. This is some sort of bizarre rebellion
against the way they grew up. I don't know how
that works exactly, but it's happened too many times and
right in front of our noses that it must must
be a real bit to illness, some kind of crazy
rebellion against coming from wealth and coming from privilege.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
They feel guilty, they feel it's wrong. I don't know
what that goes on in his head. And one thing,
and I think part of growing up rich and coddled
is that you do feel invincible. You do get a
know it all attitude. You do think you're entirely you
can fix the world. And this guy decided. Now you know,
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with his with his background and his intelligence and his
money and connections, if he want to do good for people,
there's a lot of ways he could do good. I mean,
he was valedictorian of his class in the suburban Baltimore
All Boys Academy and went to Pennsilvan University of Pennsylvania.
So he's an Ivy League guy. And this is if
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you look into history, this has gone on since the
nineteen seventies, wealthy kids turning on their parents' class, their
own class and society and deciding that they're gonna they're
going to correct all the injustices that capitalism has wrought.
They by themselves, and the easy way is just to
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start killing people. You know, going back to the nineteen
seventies and the Weatherman group and Bill Ayres. You know,
you plant bombs, you engage in shootouts, you engage in
assassination attempts, and this is how society is going to
rise up in protest against all the oligarchs that have
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ruined everything. It's very childish, it's really immature. It's ultimately ineffective.
No insurance company is going to lower their rates anytime soon.
None of them are going to improve coverage. They're just
gonna they're just going to hire more and more security.
It's going to be more and more difficult to get
into their offices because uh corporations do what they're going
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to do, and Uh, the government's corrupt. You can't fix
healthcare because anytime someone tries millions and millions of dollars
in bribe, money goes to everybody in office, Republicans, Democrats,
doesn't matter, the health industry, the the other medical organizations.
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They bribe everybody, and politicians do what whatever the whatever.
The people who pay the bills with the bribes, they
get to choose the policy. That's the way Sacramentos are on.
That's why Washington, DC is run. So if you if
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you're delusional enough to think that you're going to change
the healthcare industry and change the US government by picking
off one executive, you know, a quarter to seven in
the morning, you're out of You're completely out of your mind.
But they have this, they have this delusion that builds
up this this this megalmaniacal ego.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You said, I I don't I don't know if I've
heard it. No, there's something there is a word there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I shouldn't try to use a word unless I know
exactly how to say a megalomaniac.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's it. That sounds better.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Megalomaniac. That's what I was headed for. No, you can
get this, this savior complex. It's god complex that you
were going to fix things.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Did you hear the CVS Health has pulled all the
pictures of its website of its executives.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, they're all going to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And you got to you got to find some business
to scrub all your personal information off all these people
finder sites because there's going to be copycats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He's going to be a hero.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He's going to be a martyr of sorts, even though
he didn't get didn't get killed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He's going to be a new route.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's like, remember after the Combine shooting, those two guys
became heroes for twenty five years. Now, you know, a
couple times a year whenever we have a school shooting,
it turns out the guy who pulled off the shooting
made a shrine to the two knuckleheads from Columbine. And
that's what's going to happen here too. And now he's
in prison and he's acting out. I didn't even get
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to what he did today. We'll talk about that next.
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as well. You know, I was just looking at video
of Luigi Menngion, the suspect in the shop of that
healthcare executive in New York, and uh, he's he's grinning
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in court, but he's acting like a lunatic on the
way into court, acting violent, and they the cops had
to throw him up against the wall at one point,
and he shouted this, see if you can make out
what he what he says here.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
And I know.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That experience.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
That that is. That is a guy who's a megalomaniac.
He's he's he thinks he's going to change the world,
and he's now representing the American people. He may be
suffering from an extreme mental breakdown, Uh, schizophrenia. Maybe that
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tends to attack young men in their in their late
teens and into their twenties, where the brain just goes haywire.
Because everything in his background says that he should be
somebody different than someone who would do a cold blooded
shooting of a healthcare executive. He was brought in today
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at Blair County Courthouse in Altuna, which is where they
caught him at the McDonald's. He was baring his teeth
at people like he was some kind of wild animal,
and they pushed him inside the door. They had him
in a jump suit, They had him restrained, and then
he started screaming. Somebody asked Mangeon if he did it,
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and that's what got him yelling.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He comes.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Listen to this family background. His grandfather, Nick Mangeon Sr.
And his grandmother Mary Mangeon, Purchased a country club in
the nineteen seventies and developed a golf course whole community.
In the nineteen eighties, they purchased another country club, both
in Maryland, and they also founded a nursing home company
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as well. Family also owned a talk radio station in Baltimore, WCBN.
I think, long time ago, I applied to work at
that student really yeah, back when I was on the
East coast. Oh wow, they're extremely wealthy. Gave a lot
to charity. He went to this school that cost about
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forty thousand dollars a year. He's valedictorian and everybody's impressed
with him. He's just one of those guys right, he
was played soccer, track cross country, and one of his
classmates said, they're both such disciplined sports.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It says a lot about who he was as a student.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
He was very smart, a pretty big math guy, very
well read, quite well, liked to be honest. I didn't
have any bad memories of him. Me at a very
hell healthy social circle. And another guy said, I remember
being studied buddies with him. He said he was a
hard worker. Third student said he was a big believer
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in the power of technology to change the world. In fact,
his friends thought he probably was the smartest out of
anyone at this elite private school. Gilmout he'd made some
kind of an app where you could fly a paper
airplane through obstacles. I don't know what kind of a
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money maker that is. But in fact, he worked for
a Santa Monica company. He was in southern California for
a while. He worked for a True Car, which is
like an online car sales company, software engineer, among other things.
But if there's this website called Goodreads, and people recommend
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and review books. So one of the books he reviewed
and recommended was Ted Kaczinski's Manifesto. Remember this the unibomber Manifesto.
Kazinsky back in the late seventies sent bombs to people
in academia and at corporations, and he put out a
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warning about how about the dangers of technology to society.
OLLMANNGEO discovered his book, and I guess he wasn't aware
of Kazinski, of course, forty five years ago, because he
wrote here's a take I found online that I think
is istory. I think is interesting. Manngeon wrote that Kazinski
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had the balls to recognize that peaceful protest has gotten
us absolutely nowhere, but at the end of the day,
is probably right. When all of the four of communication fail,
violence is necessary to survive. You might not like his methods,
but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism,
it's war and revolution. Well, there you go. The seed
had already been planted. He reads Kazinsky and it's like, yeah,
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Kazinsky's right. Why take my money and my education, my
connections and try to do good, Try to work from
the inside, try to make things better. Granted on a
limited level, but I've got some I've got the tools
to do so It's like it's alwayte of time isn't it.
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Let's just kill people, blow things up. That's what Teris
has been doing for decades. They get angry and look,
the world is tough. A lot of people are irrational.
Life's unfair. That's a granted. And I don't know if
he was coddled, and this was a shock to him
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in his twenties that not every but he gives a
crap that you went to a ritzy private school and
that you were valedictorian and you were this and that,
because people don't And I could see, I mean, I
did not grow up in a coddled era, nor did
I grow up in a coddled house household. But I
could see how these kids, if you know, it's the
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trophies for everybody, that's the shorthand trophies for everybody. Nobody's criticized,
everybody's worried about his self esteem. He comes out into
the real world and all of a sudden, people aren't
that impressed and aren't giving him awards every five minutes.
They aren't giving compliments every five minutes. He bounced around
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a little. Maybe he couldn't find where he fit in.
Even with all that all that intelligence and all that education, Now,
then there's the back injury, and that alone could have
made him crazy somewhere along the line, and I haven't
seen an explanation of what happened. He suffered a terrible
back injury. His spine got out of alignment, his friends say,
by about a half an inch, and he was in
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severe pain, and he had a surgery, and supposedly on
his social media pages, he had an X ray of
his spine and you could see four bolts or something.
I guess they tried to fuse it, tried to realignment.
I don't know. Nobody's explained it yet. And that caused
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him such pain that he couldn't date, He couldn't have
physical relationship with a woman, and that apparently drove him crazy.
He was living in some sort of commune in Honolulu.
You have never heard of this. It's called a co
living space. About twenty people living in this building. The
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guy who owned the building would interview these people and
they had to meet some kind of criteria so they.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Could live together. And I don't know if that was in.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
A dormitory like situation, if everybody had their own bedroom
in a common area. I didn't really understand it. I'd
never heard of co living, but it sounds like a
modern day commune. And he's got the right politics for
somebody who wants to live in a commune. And maybe
he had insurance issues with getting his back surgery paid for,
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or maybe he just became obsessed about this. But he's
not a hero, he's not a martyr. He's a jackass.
He's a spoiled rich kid. Jackass probably found life too
difficult once he came out of his coddled, protective environment.
And if he's meant to leel, all the more reason
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just to lock him up for you know, they don't
have the death penalty in New York, but boy, this
is not a death penalty case.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He should be executed for what he did.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And if you're going to see these jackasses though constantly
getting on social media, constantly invoking his name, they might
be some copycat shootings. Who knows, But it's an old
story of spoiled rich kids. I tell you, the wealthy
and the near wealthy in this country. The guys become anarchists,
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ANTIFA members, homeless advocates, terrorists of one sort or another.
The women become the woke brigade, and they're the ones
financing the George Gascons of the world and the Chesebodnes
and Gavin Newsom's. It's an interesting synergy between like the
mothers who are have too much money and they they
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spend the money on left wing, nutball causes, woke causes,
and then their sons become anarchists and they're all angry
at the dad who made the fortune as an executive.
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We are on from one to four every day, coming
up after two o'clock. Tom Home Man. I when I
hear him talk, I get so excited. I mean, this
is the way law enforcement ought to be. And he's
not just blustering, he's just not doing tough talk. He
is telling off all these mayors and all these city councils.
(27:16):
If you don't cooperate with their deportation policies, wait till
you see what I'm going to do in your town.
And he's willing to lay it out, and he's he's
a big guy, big bald, blustery, intimidating. We're going to
play you some clips that are very entertaining from Fox
(27:37):
News and Maria Bartiromo's show that's coming up after two o'clock. Now,
I'm bringing this up because I know you, Deborah, that
you sometimes experiment with these alternative therapies and foods and things.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I do. Huh.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I was like when you were running around waving stage
in the air, and you know, the vegan diet, and
then you were just on some weird retreat in New Mexico,
right in Arizona, Arizona. Yeah, sure, Or you go see
a medium.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I did not go see a medium. No, but where
I was in Arizona, they they did have them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I just didn't. Did you partake in any weird ritually?
I think I know, yes I did. Oh you did?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
There you go, all right, I knew it, all right.
Do you hear about this Mexican actress. What happened to her? No,
her name's Marcella ale Cazar Rodriguez. She had taken part
in the combo ritual. It's a tradition native to parts
of South America that involves ingesting poison to cleanse the
body of toxins.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's what I always hear.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Women on the West Side are always going on juice cleanses.
They always say, I gotta cleanse the body of toxins. Yeah,
and the juice cleanses go for seventeen dollars like a glass.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Right, you know you've been in those juice I have.
Do you buy those?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, seventeen dollars And it's like, you know, anything in
the cleansed is their wallets.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
She started vomiting severe diarrhea, rushed to the hospital, and
she died.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's a cleansing.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Oh yeah, well that's a little more than a cleansing.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Now, now they're they're trying to find a shaman who
was running the retreat in the state of Durango. The
shaman fled the retreat after telling Rodriguez she could not leave.
And here's how the Cambo ritual works. Uh, you blister
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the skin with a hot stick. You didn't do this, no, John,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You apply a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Waxy venom to open the wounds or in the open wounds,
and uh, I guess oh the venom comes from a frog. Oh,
so they suck venom out of a poisonous frog. They
blistered the skin with a hot stick, and then they
(29:57):
put the venom on the wound and then you vomit,
you have diary, and you die.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
No, you can only do this once? Really, and why
is that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Because you die? Apparently she's a pretty well known actress
in Mexico. It's the Amazonian tree frog. The uh It's
Latin name is phili medusa by Coolar, and it's used
in rituals for its venom. Immediately you engage in severe vomiting, dizziness, painting,
(30:37):
your lips swell, your face swells. It's supposed to a
way to purge your body of toxins. I just tell
people who carry on about toxins. Yeah, that's what your
liver does.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That that's true.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Or you know what I like to do my cleanse
is I try and drink a lot of water.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
All right, Well that's get all the truck's normal. That's normal.
That's water. Well that's what I do. Although you can't
drink too much water. I know, and I don't. People
have died. Your head blows up.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Remember that radio station some years ago, I think in
Sacramento they had a water drinking contest and they died
killed one of their listeners.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, okay, so all I've done that you consider weird?
Is I light sage, right, and I smudge, which I've
smudged you before.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You certainly have. I still think about that.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I think I need to bring it in again. We
have some bad energy around here.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You never you never ingested anything. No combo is banned
in some countries and there's no scientific evidence to support
and cleanses your body of toxins. Oh, there's more to
the ritual. So after you burn your skin and after
(31:53):
you apply the toxin, it's mixed with spit, by the way,
new So if the toxin doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Get you, the spit will who spit?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I guess The shaman elders then brutally beat you with
the harsh stems of the rattan plant and then will
rub the wounds with the poisonous and powerfully irritating leaves,
which calms you briefly, but then within seconds the poison
(32:24):
sleeps into your bloodstream and it results in a full
purging of the stomach, and I mean a full purging
of the stomach. And it got this actress.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's too bad.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you you know read the fine print when you
go off to these retreats.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No, I just took a yoga class and a mindfulness class. Okay,
and what.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Did you think about during the mindfulness class.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Well, it's very hard for me to calm my mind.
So my mind was just racing as it always does.
So it doesn't work too much.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It doesn't doesn't doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I'm not going to do this thing that you just
talked about, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well this is slaw. Yeah, I know your mind.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
No, I'll just stay the way I am.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
People will fall for anything, and then the shaman disappears.
They can't find it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I wonder why.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Uh most of these those things are sex calls. When
we come back, all right, we're gonna play you. Tom Holman, Uh,
this he's playing tough guy. He makes Trump look reasonable,
and I think he means what he says.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's just just acting up for effect. I think he's
gonna he's going to be in Los Angeles because Los
Angeles is among the most defiant cities when it comes
to deporting illegal immigrants. So I'm assuming when he talks
this is meant for Karen Bass. Tom Holman clips next
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You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. Welcome,
How are you got a boatload of stuff today? We
are gonna get on later in the show. We've got
to play some clips of Tom Homan on Fox News
over the weekend. The borders are for Trump and he
is he is telling off these cities that don't want
(00:24):
to cooperate with immigrant removal. He's going to be really tough.
I hope all these idiot politicians in La put up
big resistance. Wait till they see what happens and Homan
explains it. Uh, we're gonna play you some clips. Also,
Karine Jean Pierre was cornered by a CBS reporter over
(00:46):
all all the lies she and Joe Biden told about
the pardon as there's some funny stuff there as well,
and probably above all this Luigi Menngione, what a what
a nut bag And he went a little crazy today
being let into court. He started putting up a fight
(01:06):
with the officers. They hate to throw him up against
the wall and he was shouting nonsense. All that ahead.
But we got to keep an eye on Malibu, which
are erupted into flames last night, I guess around eleven
o'clock at night, and it's burned over two thousand acres.
We got Alex Stone from ABC News in Malibu to
(01:27):
see what's up at the moment.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Alex, how are you hey there? John?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, And right now I'm looking. I'm kind of where
Pepperdine is in there. There's one plume that is just
above Pepperdine up in the canyons, up at the top
of the hills. And there's another little bit to the south,
the neighborhood, the Sarah Retreat I think it's pronounced Sarah
ce r r a retreat. They've got some flame activity
(01:54):
that's way up above that neighborhood, but for the most
part in the more populated area is down lower. It
looks a lot better than it did even a couple
hours ago, let alone know overnight when people were running
and trying to get out of the area. We've been
talking to a lot of people who say that they
have been through this so many times that they have
gone and they have bought their own gear, their own
(02:17):
fire hoses, their own pumps to do it on their own,
that they know that it is every man and woman
for themselves, and that that is what they had to
do here in Malibou last night, that getting into some
of these canyons that they know, firefighters aren't going to
be able to do it in time when the winds
are running at sixty sixty five miles an hours they
were last night some of the peak guts that they recorded,
(02:37):
so they have to do it on their own, and
they did that. A lot of homeowners decided they weren't
going to go and they fought back the flames. We
know in one area at least one home burned to
the ground. Others though, were saved by homeowners and firefighters
working together. But it was a hard fight that went
on here overnight.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Are there any other neighborhoods in danger right now? Are
the flames advancing to other developments.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And technically everything is still in danger. If you were
to talk to firefighters, and I'm sure tonight when they
give their evening up, they will still say that they
are in danger because they are that they don't really
have any containment around this, They don't have any control
of it. So if things were to kick up again,
that all of these neighborhoods would be in danger, and
there is still some flame activity in some of the neighborhoods,
(03:28):
but it's not raging around pepper Dye and around the
neighborhoods look like it was earlier. So it does look
a lot better. The homes are still in danger. They
really need the conditions to change. It is just so
dry out here right now. It is what is my
watch say, fourteen percent humidity here right now that in
some areas it could get down to two percent, and
(03:51):
that's just crazy low. And that's where you get these
bushes that just explode when they ignite, and then it's
it's off from there and again in the wind than
it really does run. But right now it's more of
a humidity situation and a little bit of the warmth,
but not the wind. It's not windy at all. There's
no breeze. The air is completely still right now. So
(04:12):
we're lucky because of that. It could I mean, if
we had wind all day today, this thing would have
been raging through the day. Luckily we don't have that.
The Chinook helicopters they're doing what we've seen on so
many Malamit wildfires over the years, filling up at the
pond right out front of Pepperdine and the chinooks are
coming down. They're using taking off again. I mean it
(04:34):
is choreographed. One after another. One chinook comes in, big
military helicopter looking at military helicopter, takes off. The next
one comes in, dumps their water, comes back around and
does it again.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I understand they had helicopters able to dump water overnight
as well, which wasn't true in previous years, and that
had a great effect at tamping down the fire, that
they could work all night and not just wait until
the sun road.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
That was a major game changer in this the One
Cow fire. They have their fire hawks now that can
work overnight. LAFD they for a while have had overnight
air ops and they're able to do it now instead
of it just burning at night and having to rely
on the ground teams to go in and many areas
(05:22):
that can't get into when it's high up in the
mountains and when it's weight deep in the canyons where
the helicopters can get in there. And then once sunlight
came this morning, the first I saw were the super
scoopers that came in the big yellow giant you know,
looks like something out of some cartoon that come in
Quebec one and two as they're called. They're out of Quebec,
(05:44):
Canada and license down here for the fire season and
essentially rented with their pilots that they came in and
began making their big drops, and then other heavy air
tankers that come in through the day. So I mean,
it really is like an air force out here right now.
But it was the nighttime drops that those make a
big difference where they just don't can't, you know, like
(06:06):
they had to let it just run. In previous years,
the Welthy Fire and others when it became night time
a few exceptions, they couldn't really get in there with
the helicopters, and this time they were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Anybody had been hurt, Nobody that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We know of. You know, one guy he interviewed who
battled back the flames all night in his home. He
had burn marks all of his shirt, but and he
said it was super hot and he was really sore,
but he was alright. Nobody else, luckily, that we know,
has been hurt. There was one La Sheriff's patrol car
out of Santa Clarita that came down to help out
(06:40):
the burned up The deputy was able to get out
of it, and so nobody was hurt there. The patrol
car is gone, but the deputy's all right. There have
been a lot of close calls, but luckily nobody hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
All right, Great news, Alex Stone, thank you, you got it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Thanks Jean Alex Stone.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
ABC News in Malibu watching one and the fires burn,
and it is remarkable that there's been a minimal amount
of homes destroyed and no apparent injuries, no deaths. This
is like one of the quickest responses that I can remember,
(07:17):
because they were able to dump so much water in
the overnight hours, because at first it looked like this
was going to be one of those really tragic fires.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And well it also helps that the winds, because the
winds were supposed to just be crazy through tomorrow and
so they they they're not as bad as we were told.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, it was supposed to be high wind warnings right
through Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean they were supposed to be at the height
of the winds right now exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I mean there still are red flag warnings through six
o'clock tomorrow night. But it looks like the wind just
isn't as bad, and so if it was crazy windy
out in Malibu, things could have been a whole lot worse.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All Right, we come back Luigi Menngione.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He is the guy who that healthcare CEO Brian Thompson
in New York City last week. And what a background
this guy had. Probably nobody expected the shooter to have
this kind of story, and he's really crazy, but he's
really not different than the well, his background is indifferent
(08:21):
from the backgrounds that a lot of these crazies have
had over the years. These want to be terrorists, these protesters, advocates, anarchists,
it's kind of the same psychological profile. We'll talk about
it when we come back and give you the latest
because he has been dragged into court today.
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app Luigi Menngion. He is the guy that we've all
seen on video shooting that healthcare executive Brian Thompson to
death in New York City, and you probably know by
now they caught him yesterday in that McDonald's in Altoona.
I read today that there were two guys wether. They're
(09:31):
a group of guys sitting at a table and one
said to the other, Hey, that looks like the shooter
in the video, and it was kind of a joke,
and one of the McDonald's employees overheard them, and he
looked himself and decided, Yeah, that is the guy. And
that employee you ought to get that fifty thousand dollars reward.
(09:56):
So he's the one who called the police. Now, Mangione,
let me tell you nothing surprises but right, because this
world is so nuts and everybody unleashes their dark side
on the internet now and a lot of people like
to perform and they like to troll.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Any adulation.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
For this bastard, you ought to be put away in
a mental institution because he's nothing but a cold blooded killer.
There's nothing special about him. He fits the exact profile
of something I've seen probably for about twenty five years now,
and we've had a lot of them on the West Coast,
protesters from Seattle, Portland, here in Los Angeles. I remember
(10:39):
when they were protesting trade summits in Seattle twenty five
years ago. You had Antifa going crazy in Portland over
those idiotic defund the police protests the whole George Floyd overreaction.
And down here in LA you've seen these guys. Guys
(11:01):
they're usually homeless advocates. They fight for the right for
homeless people to die in the street. What do they
all have in common? All these protesters I mentioned over
the last twenty five years, for all these different causes.
Most of them are upper upper middle class to wealthy
white kids, usually well educated, and their fathers are executives.
(11:27):
Their mothers are usually and heavily involved in charity in
the community. And it's the same guy over and over again.
I mean, down here in LA we had homeless advocates.
One guy's dad was I think an Academy Award winner.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He was in the movie industry.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They grow up in mansions, they go to very expensive
private schools, and I don't know what the psychological profile is.
I've read a little about this, but you've got to
believe that they've internalized a lot of resentment and hatred
of their parents, and now they want to take it
out on other wealthy people, other people who come from
(12:09):
the corporate world. This is some sort of bizarre rebellion
against the way they grew up. I don't know how
that works exactly, but it's happened too many times and
right in front of our noses that it must must
be a real bit to illness, some kind of crazy
rebellion against coming from wealth and coming from privilege.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
They feel guilty, they feel it's wrong. I don't know
what that goes on in his head. And one thing,
and I think part of growing up rich and coddled
is that you do feel invincible. You do get a
know it all attitude. You do think you're entirely you
can fix the world. And this guy decided. Now you know,
(12:52):
with his with his background and his intelligence and his
money and connections, if he want to do good for people,
there's a lot of ways he could do good. I mean,
he was valedictorian of his class in the suburban Baltimore
All Boys Academy and went to Pennsilvan University of Pennsylvania.
So he's an Ivy League guy. And this is if
(13:16):
you look into history, this has gone on since the
nineteen seventies, wealthy kids turning on their parents' class, their
own class and society and deciding that they're gonna they're
going to correct all the injustices that capitalism has wrought.
They by themselves, and the easy way is just to
(13:37):
start killing people. You know, going back to the nineteen
seventies and the Weatherman group and Bill Ayres. You know,
you plant bombs, you engage in shootouts, you engage in
assassination attempts, and this is how society is going to
rise up in protest against all the oligarchs that have
(13:58):
ruined everything. It's very childish, it's really immature. It's ultimately ineffective.
No insurance company is going to lower their rates anytime soon.
None of them are going to improve coverage. They're just
gonna they're just going to hire more and more security.
It's going to be more and more difficult to get
into their offices because uh corporations do what they're going
(14:21):
to do, and Uh, the government's corrupt. You can't fix
healthcare because anytime someone tries millions and millions of dollars
in bribe, money goes to everybody in office, Republicans, Democrats,
doesn't matter, the health industry, the the other medical organizations.
(14:44):
They bribe everybody, and politicians do what whatever the whatever.
The people who pay the bills with the bribes, they
get to choose the policy. That's the way Sacramentos are on.
That's why Washington, DC is run. So if you if
(15:04):
you're delusional enough to think that you're going to change
the healthcare industry and change the US government by picking
off one executive, you know, a quarter to seven in
the morning, you're out of You're completely out of your mind.
But they have this, they have this delusion that builds
up this this this megalmaniacal ego.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You said, I I don't I don't know if I've
heard it. No, there's something there is a word there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I shouldn't try to use a word unless I know
exactly how to say a megalomaniac.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's it. That sounds better.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Megalomaniac. That's what I was headed for. No, you can
get this, this savior complex. It's god complex that you
were going to fix things.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Did you hear the CVS Health has pulled all the
pictures of its website of its executives.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, they're all going to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And you got to you got to find some business
to scrub all your personal information off all these people
finder sites because there's going to be copycats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He's going to be a hero.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He's going to be a martyr of sorts, even though
he didn't get didn't get killed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He's going to be a new route.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's like, remember after the Combine shooting, those two guys
became heroes for twenty five years. Now, you know, a
couple times a year whenever we have a school shooting,
it turns out the guy who pulled off the shooting
made a shrine to the two knuckleheads from Columbine. And
that's what's going to happen here too. And now he's
in prison and he's acting out. I didn't even get
(16:33):
to what he did today. We'll talk about that next.
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as well. You know, I was just looking at video
of Luigi Menngion, the suspect in the shop of that
healthcare executive in New York, and uh, he's he's grinning
(17:04):
in court, but he's acting like a lunatic on the
way into court, acting violent, and they the cops had
to throw him up against the wall at one point,
and he shouted this, see if you can make out
what he what he says here.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
And I know.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That experience.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
That that is. That is a guy who's a megalomaniac.
He's he's he thinks he's going to change the world,
and he's now representing the American people. He may be
suffering from an extreme mental breakdown, Uh, schizophrenia. Maybe that
(17:53):
tends to attack young men in their in their late
teens and into their twenties, where the brain just goes haywire.
Because everything in his background says that he should be
somebody different than someone who would do a cold blooded
shooting of a healthcare executive. He was brought in today
(18:16):
at Blair County Courthouse in Altuna, which is where they
caught him at the McDonald's. He was baring his teeth
at people like he was some kind of wild animal,
and they pushed him inside the door. They had him
in a jump suit, They had him restrained, and then
he started screaming. Somebody asked Mangeon if he did it,
(18:40):
and that's what got him yelling.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He comes.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Listen to this family background. His grandfather, Nick Mangeon Sr.
And his grandmother Mary Mangeon, Purchased a country club in
the nineteen seventies and developed a golf course whole community.
In the nineteen eighties, they purchased another country club, both
in Maryland, and they also founded a nursing home company
(19:11):
as well. Family also owned a talk radio station in Baltimore, WCBN.
I think, long time ago, I applied to work at
that student really yeah, back when I was on the
East coast. Oh wow, they're extremely wealthy. Gave a lot
to charity. He went to this school that cost about
(19:32):
forty thousand dollars a year. He's valedictorian and everybody's impressed
with him. He's just one of those guys right, he
was played soccer, track cross country, and one of his
classmates said, they're both such disciplined sports.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It says a lot about who he was as a student.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
He was very smart, a pretty big math guy, very
well read, quite well, liked to be honest. I didn't
have any bad memories of him. Me at a very
hell healthy social circle. And another guy said, I remember
being studied buddies with him. He said he was a
hard worker. Third student said he was a big believer
(20:15):
in the power of technology to change the world. In fact,
his friends thought he probably was the smartest out of
anyone at this elite private school. Gilmout he'd made some
kind of an app where you could fly a paper
airplane through obstacles. I don't know what kind of a
(20:39):
money maker that is. But in fact, he worked for
a Santa Monica company. He was in southern California for
a while. He worked for a True Car, which is
like an online car sales company, software engineer, among other things.
But if there's this website called Goodreads, and people recommend
(21:07):
and review books. So one of the books he reviewed
and recommended was Ted Kaczinski's Manifesto. Remember this the unibomber Manifesto.
Kazinsky back in the late seventies sent bombs to people
in academia and at corporations, and he put out a
(21:32):
warning about how about the dangers of technology to society.
OLLMANNGEO discovered his book, and I guess he wasn't aware
of Kazinski, of course, forty five years ago, because he
wrote here's a take I found online that I think
is istory. I think is interesting. Manngeon wrote that Kazinski
(21:52):
had the balls to recognize that peaceful protest has gotten
us absolutely nowhere, but at the end of the day,
is probably right. When all of the four of communication fail,
violence is necessary to survive. You might not like his methods,
but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism,
it's war and revolution. Well, there you go. The seed
had already been planted. He reads Kazinsky and it's like, yeah,
(22:15):
Kazinsky's right. Why take my money and my education, my
connections and try to do good, Try to work from
the inside, try to make things better. Granted on a
limited level, but I've got some I've got the tools
to do so It's like it's alwayte of time isn't it.
(22:37):
Let's just kill people, blow things up. That's what Teris
has been doing for decades. They get angry and look,
the world is tough. A lot of people are irrational.
Life's unfair. That's a granted. And I don't know if
he was coddled, and this was a shock to him
(22:57):
in his twenties that not every but he gives a
crap that you went to a ritzy private school and
that you were valedictorian and you were this and that,
because people don't And I could see, I mean, I
did not grow up in a coddled era, nor did
I grow up in a coddled house household. But I
could see how these kids, if you know, it's the
(23:20):
trophies for everybody, that's the shorthand trophies for everybody. Nobody's criticized,
everybody's worried about his self esteem. He comes out into
the real world and all of a sudden, people aren't
that impressed and aren't giving him awards every five minutes.
They aren't giving compliments every five minutes. He bounced around
(23:41):
a little. Maybe he couldn't find where he fit in.
Even with all that all that intelligence and all that education, Now,
then there's the back injury, and that alone could have
made him crazy somewhere along the line, and I haven't
seen an explanation of what happened. He suffered a terrible
back injury. His spine got out of alignment, his friends say,
by about a half an inch, and he was in
(24:02):
severe pain, and he had a surgery, and supposedly on
his social media pages, he had an X ray of
his spine and you could see four bolts or something.
I guess they tried to fuse it, tried to realignment.
I don't know. Nobody's explained it yet. And that caused
(24:25):
him such pain that he couldn't date, He couldn't have
physical relationship with a woman, and that apparently drove him crazy.
He was living in some sort of commune in Honolulu.
You have never heard of this. It's called a co
living space. About twenty people living in this building. The
(24:46):
guy who owned the building would interview these people and
they had to meet some kind of criteria so they.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Could live together. And I don't know if that was in.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
A dormitory like situation, if everybody had their own bedroom
in a common area. I didn't really understand it. I'd
never heard of co living, but it sounds like a
modern day commune. And he's got the right politics for
somebody who wants to live in a commune. And maybe
he had insurance issues with getting his back surgery paid for,
(25:20):
or maybe he just became obsessed about this. But he's
not a hero, he's not a martyr. He's a jackass.
He's a spoiled rich kid. Jackass probably found life too
difficult once he came out of his coddled, protective environment.
And if he's meant to leel, all the more reason
(25:40):
just to lock him up for you know, they don't
have the death penalty in New York, but boy, this
is not a death penalty case.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He should be executed for what he did.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And if you're going to see these jackasses though constantly
getting on social media, constantly invoking his name, they might
be some copycat shootings. Who knows, But it's an old
story of spoiled rich kids. I tell you, the wealthy
and the near wealthy in this country. The guys become anarchists,
(26:11):
ANTIFA members, homeless advocates, terrorists of one sort or another.
The women become the woke brigade, and they're the ones
financing the George Gascons of the world and the Chesebodnes
and Gavin Newsom's. It's an interesting synergy between like the
mothers who are have too much money and they they
(26:35):
spend the money on left wing, nutball causes, woke causes,
and then their sons become anarchists and they're all angry
at the dad who made the fortune as an executive.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We are on from one to four every day, coming
up after two o'clock. Tom Home Man. I when I
hear him talk, I get so excited. I mean, this
is the way law enforcement ought to be. And he's
not just blustering, he's just not doing tough talk. He
is telling off all these mayors and all these city councils.
(27:16):
If you don't cooperate with their deportation policies, wait till
you see what I'm going to do in your town.
And he's willing to lay it out, and he's he's
a big guy, big bald, blustery, intimidating. We're going to
play you some clips that are very entertaining from Fox
(27:37):
News and Maria Bartiromo's show that's coming up after two o'clock. Now,
I'm bringing this up because I know you, Deborah, that
you sometimes experiment with these alternative therapies and foods and things.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I do. Huh.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I was like when you were running around waving stage
in the air, and you know, the vegan diet, and
then you were just on some weird retreat in New Mexico,
right in Arizona, Arizona. Yeah, sure, Or you go see
a medium.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I did not go see a medium. No, but where
I was in Arizona, they they did have them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I just didn't. Did you partake in any weird ritually?
I think I know, yes I did. Oh you did?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
There you go, all right, I knew it, all right.
Do you hear about this Mexican actress. What happened to her? No,
her name's Marcella ale Cazar Rodriguez. She had taken part
in the combo ritual. It's a tradition native to parts
of South America that involves ingesting poison to cleanse the
body of toxins.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's what I always hear.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Women on the West Side are always going on juice cleanses.
They always say, I gotta cleanse the body of toxins. Yeah,
and the juice cleanses go for seventeen dollars like a glass.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Right, you know you've been in those juice I have.
Do you buy those?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, seventeen dollars And it's like, you know, anything in
the cleansed is their wallets.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
She started vomiting severe diarrhea, rushed to the hospital, and
she died.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's a cleansing.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Oh yeah, well that's a little more than a cleansing.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Now, now they're they're trying to find a shaman who
was running the retreat in the state of Durango. The
shaman fled the retreat after telling Rodriguez she could not leave.
And here's how the Cambo ritual works. Uh, you blister
(29:30):
the skin with a hot stick. You didn't do this, no, John,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You apply a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Waxy venom to open the wounds or in the open wounds,
and uh, I guess oh the venom comes from a frog. Oh,
so they suck venom out of a poisonous frog. They
blistered the skin with a hot stick, and then they
(29:57):
put the venom on the wound and then you vomit,
you have diary, and you die.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
No, you can only do this once? Really, and why
is that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Because you die? Apparently she's a pretty well known actress
in Mexico. It's the Amazonian tree frog. The uh It's
Latin name is phili medusa by Coolar, and it's used
in rituals for its venom. Immediately you engage in severe vomiting, dizziness, painting,
(30:37):
your lips swell, your face swells. It's supposed to a
way to purge your body of toxins. I just tell
people who carry on about toxins. Yeah, that's what your
liver does.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That that's true.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Or you know what I like to do my cleanse
is I try and drink a lot of water.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
All right, Well that's get all the truck's normal. That's normal.
That's water. Well that's what I do. Although you can't
drink too much water. I know, and I don't. People
have died. Your head blows up.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Remember that radio station some years ago, I think in
Sacramento they had a water drinking contest and they died
killed one of their listeners.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, okay, so all I've done that you consider weird?
Is I light sage, right, and I smudge, which I've
smudged you before.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You certainly have. I still think about that.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I think I need to bring it in again. We
have some bad energy around here.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You never you never ingested anything. No combo is banned
in some countries and there's no scientific evidence to support
and cleanses your body of toxins. Oh, there's more to
the ritual. So after you burn your skin and after
(31:53):
you apply the toxin, it's mixed with spit, by the way,
new So if the toxin doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Get you, the spit will who spit?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I guess The shaman elders then brutally beat you with
the harsh stems of the rattan plant and then will
rub the wounds with the poisonous and powerfully irritating leaves,
which calms you briefly, but then within seconds the poison
(32:24):
sleeps into your bloodstream and it results in a full
purging of the stomach, and I mean a full purging
of the stomach. And it got this actress.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's too bad.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you you know read the fine print when you
go off to these retreats.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No, I just took a yoga class and a mindfulness class. Okay,
and what.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Did you think about during the mindfulness class.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Well, it's very hard for me to calm my mind.
So my mind was just racing as it always does.
So it doesn't work too much.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It doesn't doesn't doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I'm not going to do this thing that you just
talked about, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well this is slaw. Yeah, I know your mind.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
No, I'll just stay the way I am.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
People will fall for anything, and then the shaman disappears.
They can't find it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I wonder why.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Uh most of these those things are sex calls. When
we come back, all right, we're gonna play you. Tom Holman, Uh,
this he's playing tough guy. He makes Trump look reasonable,
and I think he means what he says.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's just just acting up for effect. I think he's
gonna he's going to be in Los Angeles because Los
Angeles is among the most defiant cities when it comes
to deporting illegal immigrants. So I'm assuming when he talks
this is meant for Karen Bass. Tom Holman clips next
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