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December 27, 2024 34 mins

A lot of people under 30 believe the killing of the United Healthcare CEO was justified. 60% of the country is in debt. Katy Grimes comes on the show to talk about Gov. Newsom buying a new home. What is "swatting"?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Now you may have heard it that Luigia Mangione is
beneficially indicted by a grand jury in New York for
murder and the case of Brian Thompson getting shot to
death by Mangione. I can say that because I saw
it with my own eyes on videotape. Yeah, he's the

(00:24):
United Healthcare CEO. Now, not only was he charged with
first degree murder, they charged him in furtherance of terrorism,
also second degree murder, which includes killing as an act
of terrorism, criminal possession of a weapon, and other crimes.

(00:45):
They put in the terrorism charge in part because New
York has a lot of scree rules, screwy laws, and
I don't want to get into the weeds with all
the details, but generally we all know first degree murder
is premeditated. You had a plan and then you carried
out the plan, where second degree murder is a more

(01:05):
spontaneous decision, more like an act of passion. You didn't
wake up that morning planning to kill, but you did so.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
In New York, first degree murder is only for certain cases,
such as shooting a police officer or witness killing a
witness killing a police officer, and there had been speculation
that Mangio may not qualify for first degree murder, even
though in the traditional use of that term it seemed obvious.

(01:36):
So that's why alvid Bragg decided to add in furtherance
of terrorism or an act of terrorism, which it was
too because this was a cause that he was following
through on, but it's also a way to get him
a longer guaranteed prison sentence anyway they're going to He

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was already charged with murder, but the terror allegation was
part of the new package.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
In the grand jury indictment.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
In New York, you get a terror allegation when the
crime is intended to or intimidate or coerce a civilian population,
or influence the policies of a unit of government by intimidation,
or affect the conduct of the unit of government by murder, assassination,
or kidnapping. He could get life in prison without parole

(02:28):
if he's convicted on these murder charges. Alvid Bragg finally
found a criminal he wants to put away. He called
the killing brazen and premeditated, frightening, well planned, targeted murder.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So it's impossible to.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Understand how man Jean could ever get out of this
one unless, of course, jury nullification dury nullification is what
happened in the oj trial. You had a jury who
decided to ignore all the facts of the case and
they thought they had a more important cause that they

(03:04):
had to support, and letting out Ojay would justify the
more important cause, which was sending LAPD a message that
the days of abuse, in their mind were over, that
this is what we're going to do. We're going to
start releasing murderers because of the unfair treatment that LAPD

(03:24):
has laid out against minorities in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And if you're.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Thinking that this sounds outrageous to suggest there could be
nullification dury nullification in the Luigi Mangion case, it's not.
That's what hit me today. Emerson College has a poll out.
They have a pretty large polling unit, and they survey
at one thousand registered voters and among those eighteen to

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twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
All right, so this would be.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Adults under thirty forty one percent believe that the murder
of Thompson was either somewhat or completely acceptable. But that's
sink in. Forty one percent of adults under thirty say
shooting Brian Thompson in the back, cold blooded on a

(04:15):
New York City street somewhat are completely acceptable. Seventeen percent
said completely, twenty four percent said somewhat. Only thirty three
percent of those under the age of thirty thought the
murder was completely unacceptable. Wow, one third there is I

(04:40):
hate the stereotype generations, but there is something deeply, deeply
wrong with this. I guess this is gen Z right,
a little bit of millennials. Eric, you have to account
for this. I was going to say, I've never been
prouder to be thirty.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You just made the cut. I did, you just squeaked by.
There's no chance I think this is acceptable.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
What the hell's wrong with everybody who came behind you.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's a great question. Wow, their parents wants to drop
them on their head or something.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Nineteen percent said they're neutral on the question neutral.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know how you can be neutral.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
So you have forty one percent who thinks it's acceptable,
nineteen percent neutral.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's sixty percent.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Who aren't really bothered by somebody getting murdered in the
streets in New York.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hey was an executive, he was a CEO. He had it.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Coming because people don't like him because he made a
lot of money. And you know how the insurance company is.
I mean, I don't like insurance companies. I don't know
how many people do. But we're not advocating to murder.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
The CEOs of insurance companies.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I I'm just I.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You know, I'm looking at this other thing because you
may you know, if you're if you're a certain age,
you grew up getting most of your news from television
and newspapers, right and the radio, of course. But here
is polling from a poster named Doug shown Now. He
used to be Bill Clinton's bolster, and it recently hears

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he's been a commentator on Fox and Newsmax, but he
has still has his polling company. Maybe this explains things
I don't know. Three quarters of Americans under thirty get
their news from social media, eighty four percent of people
over sixty five, eighty four percent get it from television.

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So you have and you know, I guess in between
you have kind of a sliding scale. The younger you are,
the less TV and the more social media. But it
was overwhelming for seniors, and it was overwhelming for social media.
And if you look at which social media, sixty one

(07:01):
percent of Americans under the age of thirty get their
news primarily from TikTok and fifty five percent from Instagram.
So if you run into a thirty year old, pretty
good odds they got their news that morning from TikTok
or Instagram, and pretty good odds they think shooting a

(07:21):
CEO is okay if he's from the healthcare industry.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Maybe I need to do a newscast on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Uh better get it in while you can before it's banned.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, right, January nineteenth, that might be a good idea
to shut it down. The number of people over the
age of sixty five getting their news from TikTok, eight percent,
from Instagram ten percent. Now not only see you know,
I used to think, okay, it's just a different transmission source,

(07:55):
right because I look at Instagram and I see, you know,
the ABC News as a feed, Fox as a feed,
and all the traditional networks. But you could see that
most people on TikTok and Instagram are not using traditional
media sources, and it's it's just a new venue. I
guess these are are just mysterious influencers.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, you're going to get your news from an influence.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, YouTube people, podcasters, I mean, there's a whole array.
And some of these people got noticed because Trump was
going on their shows, and I you know, I somewhat
keep track of the podcast world. But some of these
shows are apparently that Trump is showing up on and
are very popular. I'd never heard of these people. And
then there's a whole other group, you know, who didn't

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make the news during the last election, where I guess
are influencing sixty to seventy five percent of the population.
I guess everybody's running their own news service now and
who knows what you're getting. But there's a lot of propaganda.
There's a lot of very uh strident ideologies that are
being promoted under the guise of news. I mean, people

(09:06):
think they're getting news from TikTok. Yeah, even though it
could be a crazy I'm insulted.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
If you want real news, you come here k IF.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Five and you don't want anybody killed.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, well, you.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Know you know where I stand on not CEOs. I'm
not saying that some of the idiots on.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
The road right exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I think you you hurled death threats on your way
home from work every day.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
That just really shocked me because that means people under thirty,
not all of them obviously, but you got about sixty
percent are living in a different world than what I'm
living in. And it doesn't matter what we all think,
and it doesn't matter about the you know, the and
you know the news industry has discredited itself so many times,
all their bogus stories over the years. I mean, they

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went really off the cliff during the Trump administration, and
it's permanently hurt them. They've lost a lot of credibility
with people. But the young people never bought into it
to begin with. They just don't watch. They never watched,
they don't care.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
But you have to have some common sense and knowing
it's not okay just to go gun down a CEO of.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
An insurance company. I mean, you really you need to know.
I mean, that's basic.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
There's a woman named Taylor Lorenz. Have you ever heard
of her? She was a writer for the Washington Post.
She ultra woke, eventually got fired by the Post, and
she has like her own communications online right and she said,

(10:47):
if you watched a loved one die because of an
insurance conglomerate has denied their life saving treatment as a
cost cutting measure, Yes, it's natural to wish that the
people who run such organizations would suffer the same fate. Well,
you remember all the TikTok comments I was telling you
about that said thoughts and copays and thoughts and panthers. Yeah,

(11:07):
and I thought that was just, you know, a media
hype because you always find a few random idiots online, right,
you can always go to the comments section and pick
out a half a dozen of the stupid people or
the trolls. The people are just stirring up stuff. That's
what struck me. Is like, No, it looks like, you know,
forty one percent say cool.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Shoot the guy in the back again.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
I understand people's frustration because I feel it too, with
the insurance industry and them denying claims and the whole
pre existing conditions. I could understand why somebody would be
so angry. And fortunately I haven't lost a loved one
who has denied insurance, and I know if I did,
I would be I'd be furious. But you can't you

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can't say that it's okay to go and just start
shooting and murdering people.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Taylor of the Wrens again, she's the former Washington postwriter,
said she believes in the sanctity of life. And I
think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans'
joy after Thompson was murdered, unfortunately, and she was being
interviewed by Piers Morgan and he said, how can this
make you joyful? The guy's a husband, a father, He's
been gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why does

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that make you feel joyful?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
But it does. People openly celebrated, and I.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Thought they were just acting up for their social media feed,
just to be controversial and cool and all that. No,
they really meant it. They're happy he's dead. They think
it's justified. Okay, we've got more coming up on the
John Cobelt Shows.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
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six forty.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
All right, so almost sixty percent of the country. And
to me, this is the central issue. I mean, I mean,
there's like way too much there's way too much internet,
there's way too much television. Everybody's filling time with all
sorts of ridiculous, absurd theories on the election. It is

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always first, second, and third about whether people feel like
they're doing well, that they have a job, that they're
going to keep their job, the job is paying them
enough money, and they don't have bills that are making
life difficult. Right, They're getting ahead of the game, even
if they're just a little ahead of That's all the
elections usually are. Okay, sometimes you get unusual events in

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the world, but for the most part, your basic generic
election is how is everyone feeling and who do they
trust on that issue? And when I saw this today,
it's a study that's been done by wallet hub.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
They do financial surveys.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
They found that almost sixty percent of the country say
they're struggling with their debt, and half are worried about
the impact of their debt on their children. Almost half
of the Americans say that debt is taking a toll
on their health.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's how worried they are.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
They claim that debt and financial stress affects their well being,
and about forty percent think their household debt is going
to increase over the next year.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So whatever they have now, forty.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Percent of the country thinks, oh, you're from now it's
going to be even worse now. The thing is, the
polling showed this all year, and I think the polsters
intentionally lied. The networks and New York Times, they intentionally
lied with their stories about it. Oh it's neck and neck,
it's ee even it's like, no, it's not.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Do you know? I think the.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
The percentage of people who strongly approved of Joe Biden's
administration was only seventeen percent. That was strong approval seventeen percent.
And there's a whole bunch of statistics like this approval
versus disapproval, And there was there was a line today
in one of the stories it's like no president has
at no party or president has ever been re elected

(15:07):
with numbers like that. It really doesn't matter what Trump did.
As long as he was talking about the economy inflation,
he was going to win. Because Kamala comes out and says,
I wouldn't do anything different.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
What believe me?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
That one line, that one moment on the view that
sunker campaign for sure. Credit card is the most prevalent
type of debt. Fifty one percent of respondents saying they
have unmanageable credit card bills.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And it used to be I thought, well.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
A lot of that's your fault because people just are
compulsive spenders. They don't understand math, they don't understand that
if you, I don't know how a twenty or twenty
nine percent interest rate on your credit card, it's going
to get out of hand real fast. But not with
thirty percent inflation that was entirely created by the government,
the Federal Reserve. Iiden Kamala's spending period. End of story.

(16:05):
And so you know, people are paying people can't pay
their food bills and their rent bills because of all
the inflation going on. And then a research company called
Blueprint twenty twenty four did a post election investigation. The
number one reason that voters gave for not supporting Kamala

(16:27):
Harris inflation was too high. The differential there was twenty
four points twenty four percent more twenty four percentage points.
People said they voted for Trump over Harris because of inflation,
So that was at plus twenty four. Immigration was at

(16:48):
plus twenty three. And the third reason Harris too focused
on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class. She
was behind by seventeen points on that. So she's behind
by twenty four points on inflation. Twenty three on the
Border seventeen that she was too focused on culture reals.
That is the damage that transgender ad did to Kamala Harris.

(17:11):
That was absolutely devastating because that is what people have felt,
they have known for all these years. Too much on
woke nonsense, woke garbage. Nobody wants to hear about transgender stuff,
racial stuff, all of that. They're fed up with the
language police. Nobody's gonna win. And you could believe in

(17:35):
this stuff till the day you die. If you're trying
to run on that, you're gonna lose, and you're gonna
lose badly. It's only gonna get worse. Shut up about
it already, Stop it. There's nothing new to say, and
nobody wants to hear you say it anymore.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So I'm looking here.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
They what they did is they scored the relative importance
of the these issues, and those were the top three.
Inflation too high under Biden, too many immigrants crossing. Kamala
focused on cultural issues instead of the middle class. See
coming out and saying I was born in a middle
class family. You know, I was born in a middle

(18:15):
class family. You know?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Did you hear I was born That's not a policy.
That is not a policy.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Other important issues, the debt rose too much under the
Biden Harris administration. Yeah, Kamala Harris is too similar to
Joe Biden. Yes, Kamala would let in too many immigrants. Yes,
there you go, two issues economy, inflation and immigration.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
All other analysis is idiotic, stupid. I've seen black men
blamed for it, Hispanic men blamed for it, White women
blamed for it, all these demographic groups. No, no, no,
most everyone's saying was fed up with the inflation. Sixty
percent have debt problems. That's everybody, male, female, black, white,

(19:10):
the whole, you know, gay, straight, everybody.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Focus on what matters when you when you cover elections,
when you're in politics. Stop with the nonsense. Stop persecuting people.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
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Speaker 2 (19:28):
Ron every day one until four and then after four
o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand the podcast on the
iHeart app. You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio
Right now. Gavin Newsom recently bought a nine million dollar
house in the Marin County. How does he do it?
He only makes two hundred thousand dollars a year. The
taxes alone, property taxes would take more than half his paycheck.

(19:53):
Now we know, you know, he has businesses and he
was financed originally by the Gettys. But still, what's going
on here? A nine million dollar house? Katie Grimes from
California Globe. It's trying to unravel this mystery, Katie, How are.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
You, hi, John doing well?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
This is this is galling, absolutely galling. You know, the
whole state's going to have to absorb like a ninety
cent a gallon gas price increase in a matter of months.
And meantime, this guy just bought a nine million dollar house.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
How can you afford this? How does this work?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, I'm asking these questions too, I mean kind of
the title of my article was how did California Governor
Gavin Newsom by a nine point one million dollar home
on a public servant salary? Yes, we know that, you know,
he has some businesses, And I say that pretty loosely
because the you know, the primary investor in everything he's

(20:49):
ever done has been Gordon Getty and so you know,
it's not like he's some entrepreneurial guy who's you know,
gone out there and raised a bunch of capital on
his own, and then he's running these successful businesses. He's
he's been in government since nineteen ninety six, and kind

(21:10):
of similar to say Nancy Pelosi, we wonder how these
people get so darned wealthy while they're in government, And
this is just one of those cases. A nine million
dollar home in California is a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yes, plenty of tracked houses now are going for you know,
nine hundred thousand to a little over a million, but
a nine million dollar home that's not your average really
nice house.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, it's it's fifty six hundred square feet.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And he I mean he was living in a twelve
thousand square foot house.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, and the Serramento or Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
So this is his health.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
They're downsizing here, going from twelve thousand to about fifty
six hundred.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, they tremendously upgraded their neighborhood. They're back in Marin County,
so that accounts certain for you know, for some of it.
But what's so interesting about this is this is almost
the same way that the three point seven million dollar
house that was presented to him in twenty nineteen happened

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an LLC also at that time, this one was run
by his cousin. Magically pays three point seven million dollars
cash for that estate in December twenty eighteen. Then they
then the LLC gifted the home to the Newsoms free
and clear, and they but they claimed he was a

(22:34):
member of the LLC so he could avoid the transfer tax.
But then mister and missus Newsom, I know this is
this is.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
His cousin has an LLC, pays three point seven million
in cash, gifts it to the to the newsomesh. Yeah,
but Newsom is a member of the LLC, so he
doesn't have to pay a four thousand dollars transfer tax.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah yeah, because he can't even do that.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
We really need, I desperately need a forendic accountant to
start walking us through this because I'm actually starting to
think this is a way to launder money to politicians
and I need that validated or shut down quickly, because
that's the rabbit hole I might be going down. Because
then mister and missus Newsom or the first partner, they
took out a cash out refinance of that three point

(23:24):
seven million dollar house of two point seven million tax free,
all right, how they get money.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, so they refinanced and the house had increased so
much in value they were able to walk out with
two point seven million and not pay taxes on it.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah, because it was the LLC that he was a
member of. It's like borrowing. Yeah, it's so you.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Got to pay taxes on LLC profits too, I know.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
But what's so interesting also is that they also had
a house in marin at the time he was elected governor,
and that thing was mortgaged up to the hilt and
they had overdo property tax bills on it. So these
two don't operate the way normal mister and missus California did.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Wait, they were delinquent on their property taxes.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Oh yeah, yes, and he's actually so all.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Right, and they manipulate the system to avoid the transfer tax.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh, this is bad stuff. Yes, you're the only person.
You're the only person I know that's writing about this.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well, I do believe our friend Jennifer van Lauret red
State is also and she might have even hopefully done
a deeper dive than me at this point, because this
needs to get out. This is the kind of stuff
that should infuriate every single California taxpayer. As you just
pointed out, we are about to be faced with a

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ninety increase on our gas taxes, which are already stupendously high.
And this is what this. He just operates like in
a whole different world. And kind of the point of
the article was this proves if you've ever doubted that
politics is made up of the elite class who sees
themselves as the ruling class. Meet Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
This is particularly egregious and obnoxious.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yes it is, Yeah, it is both.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So the does does he get do we know?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Does he get paid out of this LLC's purchasing the homes?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
So the LC is going to pay the taxes?

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, And that's why I said I really could use
some accounting help on this one, because he won't release
his taxes, even though he promised two years ago. So
I mean it's just and last time around, the Fair
Political Practices Commission just kind of ignored the fact that
he got this major gift of well over five hundred

(25:54):
reportable dollars. And so again it's not operating the way
it would for you or me. For Gavin Newsom, is.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
He really going to run for president on his record
on the state. With the condition that California's in, he's
actually going to campaign and say, hey, look what I
did in this state. I just I can't understand any
of this.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I can't either, because, yeah, I mean, we live it.
We're stuck in the traffic, We're stuck with the high
gas prices, We're stuck with the crappy schools and the
terrible roads and crumbling infrastructure and homeless everywhere you turn.
But yeah, I don't see how he can run on it.
But he thinks he's you know, he thinks he's above
it all and that America is just waiting for him.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, that is a pretty serious delusion. That is serious
mental illness. But he's getting away with this. He's the
one in the nine million.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Dollar house exactly, and you're not.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And we're going to have people.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Are gonna have to earn an extra thousand dollars a
year to cover the gas price increase next year.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
One thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And already sixty percent of the country is having serious
debt problems. According to the last study I read this week,
most of most of the public can't pay their credit
card bills, right.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, they're making decisions about what to pay this time
as opposed to next time. And it's yeah, and he's
out there living in the nine million dollar house that
he didn't buy.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't know. There's going to be a French revolution soon,
I think. I think so there has to be all right?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Like it? Well, Katie, keep up the good work, excellent story,
and if you find out anything more, tell us all right.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I read here. I read the website every day.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
In all your articles, californiaglobe dot com. They're doing the
work of like the entire state media here. That's Katie Grimes.
We've got more coming up on the John cobelt Show.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
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Speaker 1 (28:02):
I don't know. I raised three boys, and you have
a son and daughter.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I like to think that if one of my sons
committed three hundred and seventy five felonies out of his bedroom,
I'd know about it.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I would hope you would know that I would.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I would figure this out, And that, to me is
the most fascinating part of the story, which is rich
is really weird on its own. But you may have
heard there's an eighteen year old in Lancaster who made
his name's Alan Fillion. He made three hundred and seventy
five swatting calls or otherwise threatening hoax calls. Now, a

(28:44):
swatting call is when you call authorities and tell them
about a situation that's so dangerous the police send the
swat team.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
And he would usually get the cops to.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Drag the victim out of the house and their families
out of the house, cuffed them all and then searched
the house for dead bodies. He'd say, there's a mass
shooting going on at this address, you know, go there. Now,
there's dead bodies all over the place, and so the
cops would burst into the house, grab anybody who was
alive in standing, which was everybody, and it was totally fake,

(29:24):
and then they'd tear up the house looking for the deceased.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And he was sixteen when he started this.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
He also went after religious institutions, high schools, colleges, universities,
government officials, and just random people across the country. He
would provide false information about placing explosives explosives. He would
tell authorities that he and others had firearms and that

(29:56):
other individuals had either committed or intended to commit immediately
these violent crimes. And then he tried to turn this
into a business online and he put put like a
little ads on social media advertising his services swatting for.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
A for a fee.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
So if you wanted to turn somebody's life upside down,
you contact this guy, pay him some money.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
How much does he charge?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't know, and they don't know if he actually
made any sales. He did all this from his house
in Lancaster. A lot of weird things going up in
that Lancaster Palmdale area.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
But I mean, you know what, if you're in if
you're in your bedroom right and you're you're saying you're
doing whatever, homework, whatever it is, I could I could
see how maybe I wouldn't know that my kid was
making those calls.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
A random phone call, I could see, you know, But
three hundred and seventy five times.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I mean, look, I would hope that I would know, But.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, I tell you, my wife is way too.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Nosy, So I don't think I was nosy enough.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I I mean, ye, you hear voices, and if you're
hearing constantly that something's going on, I'd love to hear
recordings of how dead Penny was about this. He threatened
to carry out a mass shooting in Florida at a
mosque in Sanford. Mosque Jeed al Hai is the mosque.

(31:39):
He claimed he had an AR fifteen, a glock seventeen, pistol,
pipe bombs, molotov cocktails. He played an audio of gunfire
in the background while on the call.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I would have heard that.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I would have heard that too.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He also made a call to a public high school
in Washington, threatening to commit a mass shooting. Claimed he
planted bombs throughout the school. May twenty twenty three, he
called a black college in Florida. He said there were
bombs in the walls, bombs in the ceilings. He was
going to detonate it, detonate them in an hour. He
made a call in Texas saying he's law enforcement and

(32:17):
claimed to have killed his mother and he's going to
kill any police officers who show up. Three hundred seventy
five times now he can. I'm trying to see how
many actual counts he was charged with, but he's he
can get five years for each count.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
The stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I just I want to know what the parents were about.
Did he have parents, Were they like laid out on
the ground drunk or methed out or how do you
do that? How disconnected from your And I saw two
different pictures of him, and one of them he's got
like a bloated face and long hair, and another one

(32:59):
hair shit, and he's thinner looking. And I don't know
what time periods they're from, but I mean, he just
looks like one of those loser kids, right, He looks
like the kind of kid that, Yeah, you would be
afraid he'd come to the school and shoot.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Up the place.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I mean, you would kind of think that the parents
really weren't that involved. But I hate to I hate
to place blame on parents for things like this, because
maybe maybe they thought he was a good guy.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Three three hundred and seventy five times.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I mean, most likely there were issues in the household.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, that's what I want to know. All Right, We've
got more. We're coming up. Poop water is back for
Los Angeles. Poop water and they're going to spend three
quarters of a billion dollars three quarters of billion dollars
to turn your waste water into drinking water. Any takers there, Nope,

(33:50):
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