January 9, 2025 • 46 mins
Special overnight fire coverage. CA State Assemblyman Bill Essayli comes on the show to talk about calling for a special session to "Fire-proof" California. Replay of the interview John did with Rick Caruso regarding the fire in Pacific Palisades.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Caf I AM six forty. You're listening to the John
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Bolt up? Okay, bill a sale's going to come excuse me,
(01:12):
going to come on with us because we were discussing
over the last hour about the tremendous lack of preparation,
bad management, misspent money in the city of Los Angeles,
in the state of California, epitomized by something that they
are never going to live down. When you have over
one thousand structures burned to the ground in Pacific Palisades
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and seventeen hours after the fire started, LA Fire Department
says we're out of water. That's an indictment of everybody,
Gavin Newsom, Karen Bass, City council, county supervisors, everybody, because
they've had billions and billions and actually I mean trillions
(02:00):
of dollars over time, and they didn't set up water infrastructure,
either every day water infrastructure or for fire emergencies, and
sooner or later, when you make a lot and I
always tell us people when when When the public puts
in stupid people, and these stupid people are in charge
long enough and they make dozens and dozens of stupid decisions,
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eventually something happens. The weight, the cumulative weight of all
those idiotic decisions causes something to shatter, some disaster to happen.
And that's what we've seen here in the last two days.
So let's get bill of sale he's the Republican assemblyman
from the Inland Empire. Bill. How are you ery?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Good morning John. You know, when they texted me, I
thought it was a typo when they said one am.
I'm like, usually he's not at one pm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Everything's upside down. Yeah, well start with how he saund
you were involved in this particular story. You've sent an
official letter to Gavin Newsom, and you want a special
session on this wildfire disaster to talk about what led
you to send the letter to Newsom and what you're
(03:16):
proposing here.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, well, this governor, he's mister special session. He made
us hold a special session to combat gas prices because
he thought the oil companies were price godging, and then
now he's making us hold a special session to trump
proof the state of California. So I said, hey, since
you're calling special sessions, how about we fireproof the state
of California instead of trump proof it. So that's what
(03:41):
I'm asking him to do. And the reason I called
for that, John, is because there's so this is a
policy failure. It's a fiscal failure. It's a policy failure.
I talked to the firefighters in my district. I said,
why are these fuel loads so high? And he said,
because we can't do the control burns. We have to
be able to create these wide fire lines and clear
some of the fuel in these wildlands so that way,
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when there is a fire, it doesn't spread so out
of control. I said, why can't you do and they said,
we have to comply with SEQUA. I said, are you
kidding me that? Yeah, they have to environmental impact study
and report before they can do a prescribe burn. Who
the hell is going to do that. They don't have
the resources or the time to do that, so those.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Environmental reports take months and months, if not years.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Years, yes, and then they get some environmentalist shows up
and says, oh, there's a bird nesting here, you can't
do it. Well, guess what, all the birds are dead now.
So where's the logic in any of this? So there's
been multiple bills proposed to exempt the prescribe burning from SEQUA.
They've all been defeated or vetoed. There was also bills
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to exempt the undergrounding of power lines from SEQUA. Those
have all failed. And it's this radical environmental ideology that's
totally taken over this government. These Democrats will not. They
won't give in, but I don't get it. So that's
where we're at. So I think we need a special
session to pass some of these laws, these reforms, and
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also funding. I had my staff pull the numbers. We
used to spend a few years ago about six hundred
million on fire prevention, which is nothing in a three
hundred million dollar budget. Now we only spend two hundred million.
So he cut it by eighty percent in the last
couple of budgets new some fire prevention.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Fire prevention by eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yes, And I always say a budget is a reflection
of your priorities. So we're spending five billion for illegal
immigrant health care in the state of California, god knows
how much on this bullet train, and two hundred million
for fire prevention. They don't give a damn John. They
don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Clearly they don't, and then a horrific fire happens because
they didn't do the prescribed burns. In fact, we had
Rick Caruso on yesterday and he said the city of
la wouldn't spend the money to do the breast clearance
and the prescribed burns in the wildlands north of Pacific Palisades,
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same thing. They just wouldn't spend the money. But you know,
as we talked about last hour, we spent one point
three billion a year on homelessness and only eight hundred
million on the fire department.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
By the way, I don't have any prove of this, John,
Someone's lighting these fires. I don't believe you start being
naturally caused.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's what I think too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm very suspicious. I mean, the locations and the timing,
it's very suspicious. I'm just going to say that when.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You have you know, the media tries to do the
responsible thing and warn people that we have extreme fire weather,
extreme wind weather. But you know how that stirs up
the crazy people because this is their shot and immortality
at least, even if no one knows their name until
they get arrested. They go home and they watch this
all day and it it. We've had these We've covered
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these guys before, you know, and they're creepy, slimy looking,
bearded weirdos that you know live up in the in
the hills or live in a trailer park. They set
a fire, it gets them all literally aroused. I mean,
there's pyromania is a real thing. Uh. They some of
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them get a sexual charge out of it, and they
go home and they watch the coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think very few these are naturally caused.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, well, how how would they start?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, I mean, I mean unless you have lightning?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There was no lightning.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Or the wind. Most times it's the wind blows a
tree into a power line or something like that. That's
usually how these things get started.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
When that happens, usually the power companies say right away, hey,
it's one of it's our it's our lines, it's our
tower that fell. But they're not saying anything. And there
was no lightning, so what else. It's got to be
some kind of human or you know, it could be
a spark off some equipment. And usually then like an
Orange County last year, you know, the agency owns up
(08:09):
to it saying, yeah, we were bulldozing rocks and the
metal from the bulldozers scraped on the rock and that's
sent off a spark. But when everybody goes silent, yeah,
it's started by humans.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Including the mayor. Heard silent, including the mayor. She's got
a lost for words. I saw that clip today. What
an embarrassment? Do you think? What these liberals and the
Palisades voted for her. They do you think they thought
they were going to lose their home as a result
of that election. I mean, these elections have consequences. You're
putting people in power who are total morons and idiots,
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and this is the this is the leadership you get.
She's more interested in a dei police chief than a
police chief, or sorry, a fire chief than a fire
chief that's making sure that the fire hydrants are working.
This is the problem with what we have today.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I read today somewhere that they didn't do the fire
hydrant testing that they usually do because they don't want
to spend the money. Everybody always hides behind budget cuts,
but it's not budget cuts, it's budget priorities. I mean,
you know this better than anybody right in the Assembly.
You know what they decide to spend dollars on. And
(09:19):
when they spend it on the Holy Trinity, which is
illegal immigrants, homeless people, and criminals, there isn't much money
left for the rest of us, the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, even when there is money, John, I heard you
talking about the water The voters gave them the money
to build the water storage. They gave them the money
and the authority. There's no will. So you know, the
problem is because we have oversight on these projects taking
ten years to put a shovel on the ground, they're
not issuing the permits. The agency, the governor's staff will
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not issue the permits to allow these projects to be
built because again it's these extreme environmentalists have totally will
control the Democrat party here. They don't want it. So
these people, that's what drives me crazy. These people that
talk about democracy, they don't like democracy. They think they're
smarter than the public. So even when the public says
we want this, they will undermine the will of the public,
(10:15):
as they did with this bond, So we don't care
what the public wants. They're not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
When the pala says is reduced to rubble, does that
please them? Now that the human beings are suffering and
they don't have a place to live anymore, and an
entire town is destroyed, that is that a big win?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Blame it on the They're going to blame it on
the climate change gods.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, you know, Yeah, so they got a perfect circle
of logic, don't they.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, they do. It's very frustrating being up here. John
just walking around the Capitol today. These Democrats not bothered
at all. They're laughing, they're partying. It's the first week
back in session. They're acting like it's a high school
reunion up here, you know, first week of school. They
don't care. They don't Honestly, these people don't care. And
you know, the governor shows up, he puts his hand
in his pocket, kind of like, too little, too late, buddy.
(10:59):
I mean, where have you been for the last few years?
And John, we haven't talked about the insurance. The insurance
market's going to be done after this. This thing is
going to put it over the cliff.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Far.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Every day someone texts me that they're getting their insurance
canceled in the state California.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, from what I've read, seventy percent of state farms
policies were canceled a few months ago in the Pacific
Palisades area. And I know somebody that they're half burned
and they had no insurance because their policy was canceled.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, these insurance companies have sophisticated modeling, weather modeling and
fire modeling. I have a feeling they know what's coming,
and so I don't know if you know this or not.
But if you can't get a fire insurance, you go
into what's called the fair Plan, which is kind of
like this quasi government run insurance program. It's not funded,
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so it's like a fake insurance policy you get and
when they run out of money, they go to the
insurance the admitted insurance carriers, and they have to do
what's called an assessment, so they will go and basically
find all the other insurance companies and you pay based
on the percentage of your market share. So if you're
an insurance company, what do you want to do. You
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want to lower your market share in the state of
California to lower your liability. That's why they're all running
to get out of the state as quickly as possible.
They know this is coming and they don't want to
be on.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The hook for it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I'd never hordor all this explained before. I mean,
I mean, it's a terrible outcome.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's a terrible You saw remember when the bank went
under in that California bank went under? What do they do?
They assess the other banks to basically make up for it.
It's kind of the same thing. They've got this fire
insurance policies called the Fair Plan. People listening will know
because if you can't, if you get canceled, you have
to have insurance. Your mortgage requires it. So you created
this like made up thing called the Fair Plan. You
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get a piece of paper, but there's no money in
the fund and it's the most high risk properties. So
I bet you most of these things are in there.
So now they're going to have some god knows how
many billion and losses. They have to go assess the
admitted insurance carriers to cover the losses. This is why
people's policies are being I have friends who are not
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even in wild areas. Their policies are being canceled because
all state or state farm. They don't want to hide
market share. They want to have a low market share
in California because that lowers the liability for the for
the Fair Plan. And they've been screaming to fix this,
and again half these Democrats don't even understand what we
just talked about. And again they don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's the bottom line is they don't care.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They care about illegal immigrants, yeah, being deported, criminal, leegal.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Emigrant, Yes, that's all the headlines is how do some
got twenty five million dollars to give illegal aliens lawyers,
I suppose, and and create a whole legal infrastructure to
protect them. But the the the LA Fire Department runs
out of water for the worst fire maybe of all
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time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
There was no more water in the system, or the
infrastructure is outdated. And so this is the stuff the government.
Government shouldn't be doing a lot of things. In my opinion,
the things that should be doing are these things fighting fires,
you know, basic public safety infrastructure. That's the stuff we
should be funding and improving and like roads and fire hydrants.
(14:34):
But they want to build bullet trains and they want
to do all this other crazy stuff that's not I
don't think that's really the function of government.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, No, it's it's the like the hard stuff that it's.
It's the it's the police, it's fire, you know, it's
it's having a school system that works. It's water, it's
taking care of our the lands in the state. That's
what they should be working on. But instead it's legal aliens,
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homeless people. I mean, the worst statistic of it all
is that we spend one point three million, one point
three billion a year on homeless eight hundred million on
the fire department here in the city of Los Angeles.
Can you imagine we spend a half a billion dollars
more every year on homeless over the fire department.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And I don't even know what they spend it on
for the homeless. There's there's we don't even know what
they're spending the money on for the homeless. It's like
a black hole. There's no accountability.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They don't know either. They got me new some admitted someone.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Someone is making a lot of money off this. That's
all I can say. There are people making a lot
of money off this homeless scam.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I know that's a ridiculous saying. Bill is Salley, thank
you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thank you, John enjoy being up late.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, they get tired tomorrow afternoon, and I'm going to
replay this interview.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That sounds good, all right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Bill Saley, the simbleman Republican from the Inland Empire. And
you know he's right. He's talked about this before because
he's almost like a spy. He doesn't care. He does
the truth. He doesn't care if he pisses everybody off.
At Sacramento, they are all laughing this week. No, it
doesn't bother them that the Palisades is has been burned
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to the ground. I wish people understood that a lot
of this stuff doesn't have to happen, or it can
be greatly mitigated. You can do prescribed burns. You can
do the brush clearance and the prescribed burns over the Palisades.
We're gonna okay, you know, let's let's play Caruso next
half hour. And we had him on earlier, well, I
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guess yesterday in the regular show, and you got to
hear him, and he talks about the failure to clear
out the brush as part of the reason this is
all doable. It's not climate change, it's not nature, it's
not God. It's stupid government politicians and bureaucrats who are
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obsessed with their weird religion, their weird i ideology that
harms us. They're religious fanatics. All right, let's play some
of Gavin Newsom. Since Bill mentioned how he's demanding Newsom
do a special session on these matters. Newsom went on
(17:31):
with Anderson Cooper, and Cooper asked him about the fire
department running out of water. What is the.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Situation with water?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Obviously, in the pal Sage ran out last night and
the hydrants I tarned.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The firefighter in this block they left because there were
no water in the hydrants here.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The local folks are trying to figure that out. I mean,
just when you have a system there, it's not dissimilar
to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large scale fires,
whether it be pipe electricity or whether it just be
the completely overwhelm of the system. I mean, those hydrants
are typical for two or three fires, maybe one fire.
You have something at this scale. But again that's going
to be determined by the local.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a non answer. That is gibberish. That's on This
is from CNN. Obviously we need local folks are going
to figure that out. They didn't have enough water. Everybody
knows the size of the fires we get in California
because of all the uncleared brush, the unmaintained wild lands
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in this state, because the State of California, the county
of the city will not spend the money or it
runs into the environmental requirements to do studies for years.
And yeah, it is because they're worried about a random
bird's nest or a lizard that's what the problem is.
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They're religious fanatics. They worship nature, and nature wins out
over Pep and you could have your homes burn and
you can die, and it doesn't matter to them because,
as Bill said, they're up laughing. In Sacramento, it's party week.
Trump was asked if he'd work with Newsom, although he's
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been trashing Newsom all this week. Let's play cut seven.
Give me your criticism of Governor Gavin Newsom. Are you
willing to work with him? And do you believe their
charlot a should be provided to California?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Profongs It takes well, it's her said, because I've been
trying to get Gavin Newsom to allow water to come.
You'd have tremendous water. They send it out to the
Pacific because they're trying to protect a tiny little fish,
which is in other areas, by the way.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Called the smelt.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And for the sake of a smelt, they.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Have no water.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
They had no water or the fire hydrants today in
Los Angeles. It was a terrible thing. And we're going
to get that done. It's going to finally be done.
I got it done from the federal side, and he
didn't want to sign it. But it's not going to
happen again like that. There's no reason. Can you imagine
you have farmers that don't have any water in California.
They have plenty of water, they don't.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have a drought.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
They send it out to the Pacific and it's crazy.
So what's happening in California is a true tragedy. I
know those areas very well. I have many friends living
in those houses. That is a true tragedy.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Nobody everything, I mean.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Virtually Beverly Hills and areas around Beverly Hills are being decimated.
The biggest homes, some of the most valuable homes in
the world are just destroyed.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I don't even know.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You know, you talk about a tax base. If those
people leave, you're going to this half your tax base
of California. This is a true tragedy and it's a
mistake of the governor. And you can say the administration
they don't have any water, they didn't have water, or
the fire hydrants, they don't have water, and yet they
have The water comes from you know where, up north
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and it comes down at levels they give millions and
midions or barrels of gallons of water that they have
and they send it out into the Pacific. For the Pacific,
it's like a drop, it's nothing. But for California, you
would take care of the whole state. So what's happened
is a tragedy, and the governor has not done a
good job. With that being said, I got along well
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with him when he was governor. We worked together very well,
and we would work together. I guess it looks like
we're going to be the one having to rebuild it.
But what happened there, I don't think there is anything
that I've ever seen quite like it. And the insurance
company is going to have a big problem because you're
talking about big, big dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
They would ensure a lot of homeowners in the Palisades
to begin with, Like I told you, a state farm
canceled seventy percent of the policies that they had Pacific Palisades.
I don't know what kind of crazy bureaucratic contraption they're
going to have to set up to fund an insurance pool. Now,
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I mean, insurance company looks at California, It's like, why
are we going to ensure homes here when you don't
have enough water in the fire hydrants? For the fire
department to put out the wildfire. You're not spending money
on water, you're not diverting the water properly. You don't
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bring the water to the fire, and you want us
to ensure this place. It's all sinking in. You know,
a couple of days of shock and then people are
going to realize. I hope. Here's Anderson Cooper back on
CNN asking Newsom to respond to Trump. I hit to
even ask this question. But the president elects to attack you, blame.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You for days.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
One can't even respond to it. I mean, it's yeah,
people are literally fleeing. People have lost their lives, kids
lost their schools, families completely torn asunder, churches burned down.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh god, this guy.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Wanted to politicize it. I have a lot of thoughts,
and I know what I want to say.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I won't.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I stood next to the President of the United States
of America today and I was probably be with Joe Biden,
and you have the bats of every single person in
this community. Didn't play politics, didn't try to divide.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Any of us.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's crazy. He's praising Joe Biden. Seriously, we've got a problem.
They send the water out into the ocean. That's as
Biden would say, it's not a joke, true story. They
do not a joke. And and we do have state
policies that Newsom has pushed and approved of that prevents
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controlled burns from happening on state lands. The city doesn't
spend the money on controlled burns for the for the
brush that we're responsible for. Rick Caruso talked about it.
We come back. We're going to just go right in
after the news into the Rick Caruso interview from this afternoon,
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and you'll hear him because he knows this stuff. One
thing is you can't fool him when it comes to
construction building. He was a commissioner for the Department of
Order and Power. He's worked on the inside of the government,
is on the police Commission. He knows this stuff. Listen
to how he speaks compared to Newsom. Listen how he
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speaks compared to the minute and thirty eight seconds worth
of silence from Karen Bass that we played for you.
That's coming up next. You're listening to John Cobels on
demand from KFI A six forty. This is special edition
continuing fire coverage here on KFI, and we're going to
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be on here till three in the morning, when Neil
Savager comes in. We're going to play you a piece
of well, the whole interview that we did with Rick
Caruso this afternoon, and you are going to hear just
what a real smart guy sounds like. Imagine if he
was the mayor and instead of what we have now
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in office, a woman who could not speak for a
minute and a half when a reporter asked her if
she owes an apology to the people of La for
being in Africa instead of here when the fire erupted. Listen,
listen to how smart he is and how detailed and
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knowledgeable he is. So let's play this interview with Rick Caruso.
Pacific Palisades really has been devastated, and we're going to
talk now with Rick Caruso. You're well aware of him.
The developer ran for mayor last time around, owns Palisades village,
and his village and his family suffered quite a bit
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of loss in these fires. And he has spoken out.
He was all over television last night about the fire.
Hydrants running drive, the water supply running out for the
fire department here in La. Let's get Rick on Rick welcome.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Hey John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I'm fine, but how are you? I understand a couple
of family members may have lost their homes.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, we love My daughter lost her home and we
lost another home. But you know, we're all together, and
we evacuated our home also, so but we're all together
and we're going to get through it and trying to
work very hard to support the neighborhood and the community
up there. The devastation as you talked about, John, it's
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just it's mind blowing. You can't even get your head
around it. Entire neighborhoods have been wiped out, and so
my heart really goes out to people who have lost
so much, because, as you know, you lose a home,
it's not the structure, it's the memories and all the
things that make life dear. And so many small businesses
up there just gone. And the fire is still, you know,
(26:54):
raging on. And but we're going to do everything we
can do to support, you know, our Ravangelino's and rebuild
and certainly support our first responders that are fighting a
good fight. But I think a lot of tough questions
need to be asked.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
By three in the morning on Wednesday, all the fire
hydrants and the Palisades area went dry. They ran out
of water. Nobody understands this. This is I mean we
all saw on TV last night, is that homes were
burning and the firefighters had had no water to put
out the blazes. I mean, what you used to be
a commissioner with the DWP, you got an idea specifically
(27:32):
what went on here.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Well, actually the fight the heighten stopped working long before
three o'clock. I think it was about eleven o'clock and
even earlier. The firefighters had been complaining to our people
about water pressure and then no water. And it's an
incredible thing to think about, John, this is the second
largest city in the United States and we don't have
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hydrants at work. We had a warning of this. I
think we've got a big failure of leadership on this.
How you cannot be prepared for this now, certainly it's devastating,
the winds are terrible. You could have probably never prevented
all of the damage, but you could have mitigated it.
And I think it goes back to there's been no
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brush management program the hills that are controlled by the
city and the state and the county. You know those
haven't been managed. There's been no control burns for decades.
So you had this enormous amount of fuel and this
fire just took off.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Is there a reason for that?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You've got a lot of tough questions.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Why wouldn't they do the controlled burns?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, I raised it five years ago. If you remember,
we have the fire in Brentwood along the four or
five and thank god it stopped and didn't travel more
to the west. And I was told the city does
not have the resources to do it. But all of
us are old enough we can remember there used to
be control burns and that hasn't happened. So, you know,
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we've got a lot of challenges in the city, and
I think at the top of it, we've got to
ask the questions. You know, who's running in the city.
Are they capable of making good decisions? And it's not
just about now, it's about for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But what do you think happened with the water supply?
I mean, I know it's an extraordinary event, but we
have those extraordinary events every so often.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, well, this isn't the first time the Palisades has
burned down either, so it's not like we didn't have
fair historical warning that this may happen again. It happened
in the sixties. But what I was told is that
the reservoirs, that the hydrants there are fed by the
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reservoirs and it's a gravity flow, and they didn't manage
the water in the reservoirs properly, so it depleted and
weren't refilling them up quickly enough. So from what I
can see, I could be wrong, But for what I
can see is there is just complete lack of proper
management of this, and I think it's negligence. I think
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the city is, unfortunately, is going to be in a
very libeles situation for the billions of dollars of losses
in the Palisades. But what we've got to really start
focusing on in the next days and weeks. We've got
to hunker down. We've got to support people that don't
have the financial means, lost their homes, lost their businesses.
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We've got to get people back on their feet, and
then we've got to start rebuilding in this city. I
pray to God cuts all the red tape, gets behind
people and helps people rebuild, and let's get out of
the business of making life difficult in this city, and
let's support support these families, because not everybody's wealthy in
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the Palisades, and most of the businesses of the Palisades
are small, independent businesses that just don't have resources.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, if it's the same people that didn't have a
brush clearing program for all these years or decades and
didn't have the water system working properly, you're going to
I don't know what to expect to try to help
rebuild the people's lives. It's the same people running LA.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Well. I mean, that's unfortunately, that's a problem, and I
hope this city starts really thinking about who they're electing
an office. And it's not about me. When I ran,
i ran, I did my best and I launched and
that's the way the system works, and I fully accept that.
But going forward, leadership matters, and we've got to be
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electing people that actually are qualified and capable to make
good decisions and put the priority of saving lives, making
our lives safe. The fact that our mayor and city
council cut the budget of the fire department two months
ago is absolutely unacceptable. And here's what we've got to
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show for why.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean I saw that story. Why would they cut
the fire department of all places?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Do they completely mismanaged the finances of the city. The
city has a deficit of half a billion dollars. They
gave a whole bunch of people raises. We've got fire
stations and I talked about this when I was running
for mayor. We have fire stations throughout the city that
are closed because they don't even have the resources to open.
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The mismanagement is at the highest level, and it really
did and it still does today. It looks like a
third world city out there. It's still burning.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know, it's overwhelming. What's burning and you talk about
a third world Look, I mean, there's so much garbage
lying around the city. I'm sure you've seen. It's appalling.
Every time you stop at a traffic light or you
stop near a freeway on ramp and you just see
the mounds of garbage. It looks like nobody's picked it
up in weeks or months. And I always look out
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and say, well, what are the city workers doing all day?
What is city management doing all day? Because the place
looks filthy much of the time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And you got to demand more, Johnny, We got to
demand more. The residents got to demand more. They deserve it.
They'd be a lot of taxes. We don't be a
lot of taxes. Yeah, very expensive to live in the city.
It should be clean, should be safe, it should be
a happy, wonderful place. They have a business and we're
just not there. But we got to change it, and
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we're going to change it by rebuilding the Palisades and
some of these other communities in a way that will
be everlasting.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, I know you're going to be a big part
of it. Are our sympathies for the losses you and
your family have suffered, and uh, you're right. We just
got to move forward and start rebuilding. But boy, we
needed we need a complete changeover.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yes we do. But we're going to lean in heavily.
The Crusoe Family's going to lean in heavily. And I
know you and your family are great Angelo's and we'll
do the same. And we're a strong city. So we're
going to bring it back. And that policy's community is
such a dear, wonderful Oh that's a beautiful town.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Oh that's a beautiful town. I mean I live right
next door and we're there all the time. And places
that we've gone to for years have been destroyed. I
was just there yesterday, yesterday morning.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We did we did a hike and Petareur Canyon and
all the blocks that we drove up and down yesterday morning.
All the homes are destroyed. Twenty four hours later. It's
it's it's overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, it is overhement. It's going to take a
massive effort to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
All right, Rick, we'll talk again soon, all right, talk
to you later, yeah, Rick Caruso, all right, bye, back
live here. Should have been the mayor. I will never
until I'm in the grave understand the appeal of people
voting for Karen Bass, and after her performance over the
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last two days, I am more baffled than ever before.
In fact, I wanted to play these back to back
because I didn't have a chance to do that during
the show. We didn't get the Bass interview with Sky
News reporter David Blevins until the very end of the show. Eric,
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can you play cut four again? All Right? You just
heard you just heard Caruso for about ten minutes there.
All right, very intelligent to tailed thoughtful. Now listen to
Karen Bass. She's got a chance to say anything in
the world as she comes off the plane after spending
all these days in Africa instead of here in La Do.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
You owe citizens and apology for being absent while their
homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department
budget by millions of dollars? Madam there? Have you nothing
to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to
the citizens today? Alon Mosk says that you're utterly incompetent.
(36:29):
Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have you absolutely
nothing to say to the citizens today? You're dealing with
this disaster, no apology for them. Do you think you
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should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding? Back home?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Visits are still walking and ignoring lemons, Adam Mayor, Let
me ask you just again, have you anything to say
to the citizens today as you returned?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Full on seconds, Madam Mayor, just a few words for
the citizens today as you returned to do you think
a postrophe the station?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I've never seen anything like it, never heard anything like it.
Absolute silence for a minute thirty eight from the woman
that the public elected to be the mayor of the
second largest city in the country that just had one
entire town completely wiped out by fire while she was
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partying in Africa. You got to say it bluntly. She
went to celebrate the inauguration of the new president of Gatta.
Why who the hell knows? The El Secundo Times, which
Patrick soon Chiong has slowly crawling back to reality. They
got a story by David Zandheuser and Matt Hamilton that
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they just published this evening and they highlighted and they
didn't bury it. They highlighted the interaction between Bass and
the reporter there, David Blevins. As she returned to the US,
Bass faced some brutal assessments of the city's handling of
the fires. In one airport, she stood silently as a
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Sky News reporter peppered her with questions about her decision
to go to Africa. You know the confrontation. Bass mostly
avoided eye contact as the reporter pressed her on whether
she needed to apologize to Angelino's for being in Africa
and whether she regretted reducing the fire department budget earlier
this year. Madame Bher, have you absolutely nothing to say
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to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster,
the reporter asked. Bass did not reply to any of
his questions and they opened the story. Though for the
first twenty four hours of the disaster, Bass was a
constant presence on social media. Shit her staff put out tweets.
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See here's my question. When they were gaming out the
wildfire response. Since she wasn't here, who on the staff said, hey,
do we have enough water? But if you have a
fire on your property or in your kitchen, it's the
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first thing you think of, Can I get water to
put this out?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What do you pour in a campfire? Poor water? Right?
If your grill gets a little, poor water. And here's
the detail. As the Palisades fire exploded, it's according to
the La Times, and new blazes broke out elsewhere, Marquise
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Harris Dawson City council president. Does anybody even know who
he is? He was this top elected official at news conferences,
Marquise Harris Dawson. I bet you ninety nine percent of
people in Los Angeles have no idea who this guy is.
Could not recognize him if they, you know, if he
fell out of the sky on their heads. Bass claimed
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she took the fastest route back to the US. You know,
when you're coming from West Africa, there is no fastest route,
and she kept pointing out that she traveled partly on
a military plane and she had phone service. That's great.
Did she bring up the lack of water during her
phone calls? She all right?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Here.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The National Weather Service began warning of potentially strong winds
and extreme fire conditions on Thursday. I was wondering what
the official day was cause I couldn't remember Thursday. She
came back today, Wednesday of the following week, Ghana. I'm sorry.
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Bass left for Ghana on Saturday, so the weather servist says,
on Thursday, extreme fire conditions. Karen Bass says, oh wow,
that sounds awful. I'm going to Ghana two days later
because I didn't know when she left, and I don't
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know when the Weather Service put language in to make
you realize it was going to be very bad. But wow,
this is worst case scenario. Bass left for Ghana on Saturday.
Those warnings intensified over subsequent days by Monday officials who
were bracing for potentially life threatening and destructive winden storms.
(42:41):
How about that, So you got Thursday warnings, Friday warnings.
Bass goes to Gone on Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Now it's Tuesday,
Palisades fire breaks out of ten thirty five hours later,
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pass was enrooted from Ghana three point thirty in the
afternoon yesterday. She finally left when the warnings were out
last Thursday. Wow. And then while she's in the plane,
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more wildfires in al Dadina, Pasadena, Ballabou and Silmour. Don't
you think that she should have got to Ghana at all?
And don't you think she should have turned around and
came back as soon as she landed, like on Sunday,
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Because on Sunday there was a bulletin from the National
Weather Service warning of strong and damaging winds and critical
fire conditions. This isn't LA's first fire. And then you
know when you again, when you have the meeting, the
big meeting, Hey, Weather Services, extreme critical fire conditions, life
threatening windstorm, the whole or right, they couldn't come up
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with any any more words. Who at the meeting? Who
among the Karen Bass's board of geniuses goes, we have
enough water? What a how long is that water gonna last?
You know, these fires can go on for weeks. How
much water we have? Oh, we have seventeen hours worth?
Uh huh. And the winds are gonna be blown white
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one hundred miles an hour. Uh huh, wow, that's fast.
That fire is going to cover a lot of territory. Yeah, sure,
you packed enough water there, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I just.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
And use some scolding people for politicizing it all. This
has to be politicized because elections put these people in power,
and then they make decisions, and their decisions are awful.
Either they are involve with some weird, sick ideology, or
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they're just stupid, or they don't care. Of course it
should be politicized, and these people should be replaced in
a lot of countries and a lot of cultures. Karen
Bass would already have fallen on her sword and said,
you know what, I'm embarrassed. This is abysmal behavior. There's
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no excuse. I'm going home, get somebody better. This isn't
for me. We come back. We're going to have human
him many doctor Human Jomny. We're gonna have him on
right after the two o'clock news. We're going to talk
about some of the medical aspects and of the fires,
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what people are going through, and also he's going to
talk about what he describes as the criminal negligence of
Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, their policies which lead to
these fires, and not only the huge damage that people
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are absorbing in their lives now with their homes, businesses
being destroyed, but all the medical problems that they're going
to be suffering from as well. We'll talk to Human Hamadi,
Doctor Hamati coming up right after the news and we're
on to three o'clock. Then Nil Savager comes in. We
are giving you twenty four coverage, twenty four hour coverage
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That's what is that? The phrase? This year's marketing phrase?
Bolt up? Okay, bill a sale's going to come excuse me,
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going to come on with us because we were discussing
over the last hour about the tremendous lack of preparation,
bad management, misspent money in the city of Los Angeles,
in the state of California, epitomized by something that they
are never going to live down. When you have over
one thousand structures burned to the ground in Pacific Palisades
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and seventeen hours after the fire started, LA Fire Department
says we're out of water. That's an indictment of everybody,
Gavin Newsom, Karen Bass, City council, county supervisors, everybody, because
they've had billions and billions and actually I mean trillions
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of dollars over time, and they didn't set up water infrastructure,
either every day water infrastructure or for fire emergencies, and
sooner or later, when you make a lot and I
always tell us people when when When the public puts
in stupid people, and these stupid people are in charge
long enough and they make dozens and dozens of stupid decisions,
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eventually something happens. The weight, the cumulative weight of all
those idiotic decisions causes something to shatter, some disaster to happen.
And that's what we've seen here in the last two days.
So let's get bill of sale he's the Republican assemblyman
from the Inland Empire. Bill. How are you ery?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Good morning John. You know, when they texted me, I
thought it was a typo when they said one am.
I'm like, usually he's not at one pm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Everything's upside down. Yeah, well start with how he saund
you were involved in this particular story. You've sent an
official letter to Gavin Newsom, and you want a special
session on this wildfire disaster to talk about what led
you to send the letter to Newsom and what you're
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proposing here.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, well, this governor, he's mister special session. He made
us hold a special session to combat gas prices because
he thought the oil companies were price godging, and then
now he's making us hold a special session to trump
proof the state of California. So I said, hey, since
you're calling special sessions, how about we fireproof the state
of California instead of trump proof it. So that's what
(03:41):
I'm asking him to do. And the reason I called
for that, John, is because there's so this is a
policy failure. It's a fiscal failure. It's a policy failure.
I talked to the firefighters in my district. I said,
why are these fuel loads so high? And he said,
because we can't do the control burns. We have to
be able to create these wide fire lines and clear
some of the fuel in these wildlands so that way,
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when there is a fire, it doesn't spread so out
of control. I said, why can't you do and they said,
we have to comply with SEQUA. I said, are you
kidding me that? Yeah, they have to environmental impact study
and report before they can do a prescribe burn. Who
the hell is going to do that. They don't have
the resources or the time to do that, so those.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Environmental reports take months and months, if not years.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Years, yes, and then they get some environmentalist shows up
and says, oh, there's a bird nesting here, you can't
do it. Well, guess what, all the birds are dead now.
So where's the logic in any of this? So there's
been multiple bills proposed to exempt the prescribe burning from SEQUA.
They've all been defeated or vetoed. There was also bills
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to exempt the undergrounding of power lines from SEQUA. Those
have all failed. And it's this radical environmental ideology that's
totally taken over this government. These Democrats will not. They
won't give in, but I don't get it. So that's
where we're at. So I think we need a special
session to pass some of these laws, these reforms, and
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also funding. I had my staff pull the numbers. We
used to spend a few years ago about six hundred
million on fire prevention, which is nothing in a three
hundred million dollar budget. Now we only spend two hundred million.
So he cut it by eighty percent in the last
couple of budgets new some fire prevention.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Fire prevention by eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yes, And I always say a budget is a reflection
of your priorities. So we're spending five billion for illegal
immigrant health care in the state of California, god knows
how much on this bullet train, and two hundred million
for fire prevention. They don't give a damn John. They
don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Clearly they don't, and then a horrific fire happens because
they didn't do the prescribed burns. In fact, we had
Rick Caruso on yesterday and he said the city of
la wouldn't spend the money to do the breast clearance
and the prescribed burns in the wildlands north of Pacific Palisades,
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same thing. They just wouldn't spend the money. But you know,
as we talked about last hour, we spent one point
three billion a year on homelessness and only eight hundred
million on the fire department.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
By the way, I don't have any prove of this, John,
Someone's lighting these fires. I don't believe you start being
naturally caused.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's what I think too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm very suspicious. I mean, the locations and the timing,
it's very suspicious. I'm just going to say that when.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You have you know, the media tries to do the
responsible thing and warn people that we have extreme fire weather,
extreme wind weather. But you know how that stirs up
the crazy people because this is their shot and immortality
at least, even if no one knows their name until
they get arrested. They go home and they watch this
all day and it it. We've had these We've covered
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these guys before, you know, and they're creepy, slimy looking,
bearded weirdos that you know live up in the in
the hills or live in a trailer park. They set
a fire, it gets them all literally aroused. I mean,
there's pyromania is a real thing. Uh. They some of
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them get a sexual charge out of it, and they
go home and they watch the coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think very few these are naturally caused.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, well, how how would they start?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, I mean, I mean unless you have lightning?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There was no lightning.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Or the wind. Most times it's the wind blows a
tree into a power line or something like that. That's
usually how these things get started.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
When that happens, usually the power companies say right away, hey,
it's one of it's our it's our lines, it's our
tower that fell. But they're not saying anything. And there
was no lightning, so what else. It's got to be
some kind of human or you know, it could be
a spark off some equipment. And usually then like an
Orange County last year, you know, the agency owns up
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to it saying, yeah, we were bulldozing rocks and the
metal from the bulldozers scraped on the rock and that's
sent off a spark. But when everybody goes silent, yeah,
it's started by humans.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Including the mayor. Heard silent, including the mayor. She's got
a lost for words. I saw that clip today. What
an embarrassment? Do you think? What these liberals and the
Palisades voted for her. They do you think they thought
they were going to lose their home as a result
of that election. I mean, these elections have consequences. You're
putting people in power who are total morons and idiots,
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and this is the this is the leadership you get.
She's more interested in a dei police chief than a
police chief, or sorry, a fire chief than a fire
chief that's making sure that the fire hydrants are working.
This is the problem with what we have today.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I read today somewhere that they didn't do the fire
hydrant testing that they usually do because they don't want
to spend the money. Everybody always hides behind budget cuts,
but it's not budget cuts, it's budget priorities. I mean,
you know this better than anybody right in the Assembly.
You know what they decide to spend dollars on. And
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when they spend it on the Holy Trinity, which is
illegal immigrants, homeless people, and criminals, there isn't much money
left for the rest of us, the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, even when there is money, John, I heard you
talking about the water The voters gave them the money
to build the water storage. They gave them the money
and the authority. There's no will. So you know, the
problem is because we have oversight on these projects taking
ten years to put a shovel on the ground, they're
not issuing the permits. The agency, the governor's staff will
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not issue the permits to allow these projects to be
built because again it's these extreme environmentalists have totally will
control the Democrat party here. They don't want it. So
these people, that's what drives me crazy. These people that
talk about democracy, they don't like democracy. They think they're
smarter than the public. So even when the public says
we want this, they will undermine the will of the public,
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as they did with this bond, So we don't care
what the public wants. They're not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
When the pala says is reduced to rubble, does that
please them? Now that the human beings are suffering and
they don't have a place to live anymore, and an
entire town is destroyed, that is that a big win?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Blame it on the They're going to blame it on
the climate change gods.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, you know, Yeah, so they got a perfect circle
of logic, don't they.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, they do. It's very frustrating being up here. John
just walking around the Capitol today. These Democrats not bothered
at all. They're laughing, they're partying. It's the first week
back in session. They're acting like it's a high school
reunion up here, you know, first week of school. They
don't care. They don't Honestly, these people don't care. And
you know, the governor shows up, he puts his hand
in his pocket, kind of like, too little, too late, buddy.
(10:59):
I mean, where have you been for the last few years?
And John, we haven't talked about the insurance. The insurance
market's going to be done after this. This thing is
going to put it over the cliff.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Far.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Every day someone texts me that they're getting their insurance
canceled in the state California.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, from what I've read, seventy percent of state farms
policies were canceled a few months ago in the Pacific
Palisades area. And I know somebody that they're half burned
and they had no insurance because their policy was canceled.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, these insurance companies have sophisticated modeling, weather modeling and
fire modeling. I have a feeling they know what's coming,
and so I don't know if you know this or not.
But if you can't get a fire insurance, you go
into what's called the fair Plan, which is kind of
like this quasi government run insurance program. It's not funded,
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so it's like a fake insurance policy you get and
when they run out of money, they go to the
insurance the admitted insurance carriers, and they have to do
what's called an assessment, so they will go and basically
find all the other insurance companies and you pay based
on the percentage of your market share. So if you're
an insurance company, what do you want to do. You
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want to lower your market share in the state of
California to lower your liability. That's why they're all running
to get out of the state as quickly as possible.
They know this is coming and they don't want to
be on.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The hook for it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I'd never hordor all this explained before. I mean,
I mean, it's a terrible outcome.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's a terrible You saw remember when the bank went
under in that California bank went under? What do they do?
They assess the other banks to basically make up for it.
It's kind of the same thing. They've got this fire
insurance policies called the Fair Plan. People listening will know
because if you can't, if you get canceled, you have
to have insurance. Your mortgage requires it. So you created
this like made up thing called the Fair Plan. You
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get a piece of paper, but there's no money in
the fund and it's the most high risk properties. So
I bet you most of these things are in there.
So now they're going to have some god knows how
many billion and losses. They have to go assess the
admitted insurance carriers to cover the losses. This is why
people's policies are being I have friends who are not
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even in wild areas. Their policies are being canceled because
all state or state farm. They don't want to hide
market share. They want to have a low market share
in California because that lowers the liability for the for
the Fair Plan. And they've been screaming to fix this,
and again half these Democrats don't even understand what we
just talked about. And again they don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's the bottom line is they don't care.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They care about illegal immigrants, yeah, being deported, criminal, leegal.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Emigrant, Yes, that's all the headlines is how do some
got twenty five million dollars to give illegal aliens lawyers,
I suppose, and and create a whole legal infrastructure to
protect them. But the the the LA Fire Department runs
out of water for the worst fire maybe of all
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time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
There was no more water in the system, or the
infrastructure is outdated. And so this is the stuff the government.
Government shouldn't be doing a lot of things. In my opinion,
the things that should be doing are these things fighting fires,
you know, basic public safety infrastructure. That's the stuff we
should be funding and improving and like roads and fire hydrants.
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But they want to build bullet trains and they want
to do all this other crazy stuff that's not I
don't think that's really the function of government.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, No, it's it's the like the hard stuff that it's.
It's the it's the police, it's fire, you know, it's
it's having a school system that works. It's water, it's
taking care of our the lands in the state. That's
what they should be working on. But instead it's legal aliens,
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homeless people. I mean, the worst statistic of it all
is that we spend one point three million, one point
three billion a year on homeless eight hundred million on
the fire department here in the city of Los Angeles.
Can you imagine we spend a half a billion dollars
more every year on homeless over the fire department.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And I don't even know what they spend it on
for the homeless. There's there's we don't even know what
they're spending the money on for the homeless. It's like
a black hole. There's no accountability.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They don't know either. They got me new some admitted someone.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Someone is making a lot of money off this. That's
all I can say. There are people making a lot
of money off this homeless scam.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I know that's a ridiculous saying. Bill is Salley, thank
you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thank you, John enjoy being up late.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, they get tired tomorrow afternoon, and I'm going to
replay this interview.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That sounds good, all right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Bill Saley, the simbleman Republican from the Inland Empire. And
you know he's right. He's talked about this before because
he's almost like a spy. He doesn't care. He does
the truth. He doesn't care if he pisses everybody off.
At Sacramento, they are all laughing this week. No, it
doesn't bother them that the Palisades is has been burned
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to the ground. I wish people understood that a lot
of this stuff doesn't have to happen, or it can
be greatly mitigated. You can do prescribed burns. You can
do the brush clearance and the prescribed burns over the Palisades.
We're gonna okay, you know, let's let's play Caruso next
half hour. And we had him on earlier, well, I
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guess yesterday in the regular show, and you got to
hear him, and he talks about the failure to clear
out the brush as part of the reason this is
all doable. It's not climate change, it's not nature, it's
not God. It's stupid government politicians and bureaucrats who are
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obsessed with their weird religion, their weird i ideology that
harms us. They're religious fanatics. All right, let's play some
of Gavin Newsom. Since Bill mentioned how he's demanding Newsom
do a special session on these matters. Newsom went on
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with Anderson Cooper, and Cooper asked him about the fire
department running out of water. What is the.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Situation with water?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Obviously, in the pal Sage ran out last night and
the hydrants I tarned.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The firefighter in this block they left because there were
no water in the hydrants here.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The local folks are trying to figure that out. I mean,
just when you have a system there, it's not dissimilar
to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large scale fires,
whether it be pipe electricity or whether it just be
the completely overwhelm of the system. I mean, those hydrants
are typical for two or three fires, maybe one fire.
You have something at this scale. But again that's going
to be determined by the local.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a non answer. That is gibberish. That's on This
is from CNN. Obviously we need local folks are going
to figure that out. They didn't have enough water. Everybody
knows the size of the fires we get in California
because of all the uncleared brush, the unmaintained wild lands
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in this state, because the State of California, the county
of the city will not spend the money or it
runs into the environmental requirements to do studies for years.
And yeah, it is because they're worried about a random
bird's nest or a lizard that's what the problem is.
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They're religious fanatics. They worship nature, and nature wins out
over Pep and you could have your homes burn and
you can die, and it doesn't matter to them because,
as Bill said, they're up laughing. In Sacramento, it's party week.
Trump was asked if he'd work with Newsom, although he's
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been trashing Newsom all this week. Let's play cut seven.
Give me your criticism of Governor Gavin Newsom. Are you
willing to work with him? And do you believe their
charlot a should be provided to California?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Profongs It takes well, it's her said, because I've been
trying to get Gavin Newsom to allow water to come.
You'd have tremendous water. They send it out to the
Pacific because they're trying to protect a tiny little fish,
which is in other areas, by the way.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Called the smelt.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And for the sake of a smelt, they.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Have no water.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
They had no water or the fire hydrants today in
Los Angeles. It was a terrible thing. And we're going
to get that done. It's going to finally be done.
I got it done from the federal side, and he
didn't want to sign it. But it's not going to
happen again like that. There's no reason. Can you imagine
you have farmers that don't have any water in California.
They have plenty of water, they don't.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have a drought.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
They send it out to the Pacific and it's crazy.
So what's happening in California is a true tragedy. I
know those areas very well. I have many friends living
in those houses. That is a true tragedy.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Nobody everything, I mean.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Virtually Beverly Hills and areas around Beverly Hills are being decimated.
The biggest homes, some of the most valuable homes in
the world are just destroyed.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I don't even know.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You know, you talk about a tax base. If those
people leave, you're going to this half your tax base
of California. This is a true tragedy and it's a
mistake of the governor. And you can say the administration
they don't have any water, they didn't have water, or
the fire hydrants, they don't have water, and yet they
have The water comes from you know where, up north
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and it comes down at levels they give millions and
midions or barrels of gallons of water that they have
and they send it out into the Pacific. For the Pacific,
it's like a drop, it's nothing. But for California, you
would take care of the whole state. So what's happened
is a tragedy, and the governor has not done a
good job. With that being said, I got along well
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with him when he was governor. We worked together very well,
and we would work together. I guess it looks like
we're going to be the one having to rebuild it.
But what happened there, I don't think there is anything
that I've ever seen quite like it. And the insurance
company is going to have a big problem because you're
talking about big, big dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
They would ensure a lot of homeowners in the Palisades
to begin with, Like I told you, a state farm
canceled seventy percent of the policies that they had Pacific Palisades.
I don't know what kind of crazy bureaucratic contraption they're
going to have to set up to fund an insurance pool. Now,
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I mean, insurance company looks at California, It's like, why
are we going to ensure homes here when you don't
have enough water in the fire hydrants? For the fire
department to put out the wildfire. You're not spending money
on water, you're not diverting the water properly. You don't
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bring the water to the fire, and you want us
to ensure this place. It's all sinking in. You know,
a couple of days of shock and then people are
going to realize. I hope. Here's Anderson Cooper back on
CNN asking Newsom to respond to Trump. I hit to
even ask this question. But the president elects to attack you, blame.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You for days.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
One can't even respond to it. I mean, it's yeah,
people are literally fleeing. People have lost their lives, kids
lost their schools, families completely torn asunder, churches burned down.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh god, this guy.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Wanted to politicize it. I have a lot of thoughts,
and I know what I want to say.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I won't.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I stood next to the President of the United States
of America today and I was probably be with Joe Biden,
and you have the bats of every single person in
this community. Didn't play politics, didn't try to divide.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Any of us.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's crazy. He's praising Joe Biden. Seriously, we've got a problem.
They send the water out into the ocean. That's as
Biden would say, it's not a joke, true story. They
do not a joke. And and we do have state
policies that Newsom has pushed and approved of that prevents
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controlled burns from happening on state lands. The city doesn't
spend the money on controlled burns for the for the
brush that we're responsible for. Rick Caruso talked about it.
We come back. We're going to just go right in
after the news into the Rick Caruso interview from this afternoon,
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and you'll hear him because he knows this stuff. One
thing is you can't fool him when it comes to
construction building. He was a commissioner for the Department of
Order and Power. He's worked on the inside of the government,
is on the police Commission. He knows this stuff. Listen
to how he speaks compared to Newsom. Listen how he
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speaks compared to the minute and thirty eight seconds worth
of silence from Karen Bass that we played for you.
That's coming up next. You're listening to John Cobels on
demand from KFI A six forty. This is special edition
continuing fire coverage here on KFI, and we're going to
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be on here till three in the morning, when Neil
Savager comes in. We're going to play you a piece
of well, the whole interview that we did with Rick
Caruso this afternoon, and you are going to hear just
what a real smart guy sounds like. Imagine if he
was the mayor and instead of what we have now
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in office, a woman who could not speak for a
minute and a half when a reporter asked her if
she owes an apology to the people of La for
being in Africa instead of here when the fire erupted. Listen,
listen to how smart he is and how detailed and
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knowledgeable he is. So let's play this interview with Rick Caruso.
Pacific Palisades really has been devastated, and we're going to
talk now with Rick Caruso. You're well aware of him.
The developer ran for mayor last time around, owns Palisades village,
and his village and his family suffered quite a bit
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of loss in these fires. And he has spoken out.
He was all over television last night about the fire.
Hydrants running drive, the water supply running out for the
fire department here in La. Let's get Rick on Rick welcome.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Hey John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I'm fine, but how are you? I understand a couple
of family members may have lost their homes.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, we love My daughter lost her home and we
lost another home. But you know, we're all together, and
we evacuated our home also, so but we're all together
and we're going to get through it and trying to
work very hard to support the neighborhood and the community
up there. The devastation as you talked about, John, it's
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just it's mind blowing. You can't even get your head
around it. Entire neighborhoods have been wiped out, and so
my heart really goes out to people who have lost
so much, because, as you know, you lose a home,
it's not the structure, it's the memories and all the
things that make life dear. And so many small businesses
up there just gone. And the fire is still, you know,
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raging on. And but we're going to do everything we
can do to support, you know, our Ravangelino's and rebuild
and certainly support our first responders that are fighting a
good fight. But I think a lot of tough questions
need to be asked.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
By three in the morning on Wednesday, all the fire
hydrants and the Palisades area went dry. They ran out
of water. Nobody understands this. This is I mean we
all saw on TV last night, is that homes were
burning and the firefighters had had no water to put
out the blazes. I mean, what you used to be
a commissioner with the DWP, you got an idea specifically
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what went on here.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Well, actually the fight the heighten stopped working long before
three o'clock. I think it was about eleven o'clock and
even earlier. The firefighters had been complaining to our people
about water pressure and then no water. And it's an
incredible thing to think about, John, this is the second
largest city in the United States and we don't have
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hydrants at work. We had a warning of this. I
think we've got a big failure of leadership on this.
How you cannot be prepared for this now, certainly it's devastating,
the winds are terrible. You could have probably never prevented
all of the damage, but you could have mitigated it.
And I think it goes back to there's been no
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brush management program the hills that are controlled by the
city and the state and the county. You know those
haven't been managed. There's been no control burns for decades.
So you had this enormous amount of fuel and this
fire just took off.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Is there a reason for that?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You've got a lot of tough questions.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Why wouldn't they do the controlled burns?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, I raised it five years ago. If you remember,
we have the fire in Brentwood along the four or
five and thank god it stopped and didn't travel more
to the west. And I was told the city does
not have the resources to do it. But all of
us are old enough we can remember there used to
be control burns and that hasn't happened. So, you know,
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we've got a lot of challenges in the city, and
I think at the top of it, we've got to
ask the questions. You know, who's running in the city.
Are they capable of making good decisions? And it's not
just about now, it's about for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But what do you think happened with the water supply?
I mean, I know it's an extraordinary event, but we
have those extraordinary events every so often.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, well, this isn't the first time the Palisades has
burned down either, so it's not like we didn't have
fair historical warning that this may happen again. It happened
in the sixties. But what I was told is that
the reservoirs, that the hydrants there are fed by the
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reservoirs and it's a gravity flow, and they didn't manage
the water in the reservoirs properly, so it depleted and
weren't refilling them up quickly enough. So from what I
can see, I could be wrong, But for what I
can see is there is just complete lack of proper
management of this, and I think it's negligence. I think
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the city is, unfortunately, is going to be in a
very libeles situation for the billions of dollars of losses
in the Palisades. But what we've got to really start
focusing on in the next days and weeks. We've got
to hunker down. We've got to support people that don't
have the financial means, lost their homes, lost their businesses.
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We've got to get people back on their feet, and
then we've got to start rebuilding in this city. I
pray to God cuts all the red tape, gets behind
people and helps people rebuild, and let's get out of
the business of making life difficult in this city, and
let's support support these families, because not everybody's wealthy in
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the Palisades, and most of the businesses of the Palisades
are small, independent businesses that just don't have resources.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, if it's the same people that didn't have a
brush clearing program for all these years or decades and
didn't have the water system working properly, you're going to
I don't know what to expect to try to help
rebuild the people's lives. It's the same people running LA.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Well. I mean, that's unfortunately, that's a problem, and I
hope this city starts really thinking about who they're electing
an office. And it's not about me. When I ran,
i ran, I did my best and I launched and
that's the way the system works, and I fully accept that.
But going forward, leadership matters, and we've got to be
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electing people that actually are qualified and capable to make
good decisions and put the priority of saving lives, making
our lives safe. The fact that our mayor and city
council cut the budget of the fire department two months
ago is absolutely unacceptable. And here's what we've got to
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show for why.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean I saw that story. Why would they cut
the fire department of all places?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Do they completely mismanaged the finances of the city. The
city has a deficit of half a billion dollars. They
gave a whole bunch of people raises. We've got fire
stations and I talked about this when I was running
for mayor. We have fire stations throughout the city that
are closed because they don't even have the resources to open.
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The mismanagement is at the highest level, and it really
did and it still does today. It looks like a
third world city out there. It's still burning.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know, it's overwhelming. What's burning and you talk about
a third world Look, I mean, there's so much garbage
lying around the city. I'm sure you've seen. It's appalling.
Every time you stop at a traffic light or you
stop near a freeway on ramp and you just see
the mounds of garbage. It looks like nobody's picked it
up in weeks or months. And I always look out
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and say, well, what are the city workers doing all day?
What is city management doing all day? Because the place
looks filthy much of the time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And you got to demand more, Johnny, We got to
demand more. The residents got to demand more. They deserve it.
They'd be a lot of taxes. We don't be a
lot of taxes. Yeah, very expensive to live in the city.
It should be clean, should be safe, it should be
a happy, wonderful place. They have a business and we're
just not there. But we got to change it, and
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we're going to change it by rebuilding the Palisades and
some of these other communities in a way that will
be everlasting.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, I know you're going to be a big part
of it. Are our sympathies for the losses you and
your family have suffered, and uh, you're right. We just
got to move forward and start rebuilding. But boy, we
needed we need a complete changeover.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yes we do. But we're going to lean in heavily.
The Crusoe Family's going to lean in heavily. And I
know you and your family are great Angelo's and we'll
do the same. And we're a strong city. So we're
going to bring it back. And that policy's community is
such a dear, wonderful Oh that's a beautiful town.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Oh that's a beautiful town. I mean I live right
next door and we're there all the time. And places
that we've gone to for years have been destroyed. I
was just there yesterday, yesterday morning.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We did we did a hike and Petareur Canyon and
all the blocks that we drove up and down yesterday morning.
All the homes are destroyed. Twenty four hours later. It's
it's it's overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, it is overhement. It's going to take a
massive effort to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
All right, Rick, we'll talk again soon, all right, talk
to you later, yeah, Rick Caruso, all right, bye, back
live here. Should have been the mayor. I will never
until I'm in the grave understand the appeal of people
voting for Karen Bass, and after her performance over the
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last two days, I am more baffled than ever before.
In fact, I wanted to play these back to back
because I didn't have a chance to do that during
the show. We didn't get the Bass interview with Sky
News reporter David Blevins until the very end of the show. Eric,
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can you play cut four again? All Right? You just
heard you just heard Caruso for about ten minutes there.
All right, very intelligent to tailed thoughtful. Now listen to
Karen Bass. She's got a chance to say anything in
the world as she comes off the plane after spending
all these days in Africa instead of here in La Do.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
You owe citizens and apology for being absent while their
homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department
budget by millions of dollars? Madam there? Have you nothing
to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to
the citizens today? Alon Mosk says that you're utterly incompetent.
(36:29):
Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have you absolutely
nothing to say to the citizens today? You're dealing with
this disaster, no apology for them. Do you think you
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should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding? Back home?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Visits are still walking and ignoring lemons, Adam Mayor, Let
me ask you just again, have you anything to say
to the citizens today as you returned?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Full on seconds, Madam Mayor, just a few words for
the citizens today as you returned to do you think
a postrophe the station?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I've never seen anything like it, never heard anything like it.
Absolute silence for a minute thirty eight from the woman
that the public elected to be the mayor of the
second largest city in the country that just had one
entire town completely wiped out by fire while she was
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partying in Africa. You got to say it bluntly. She
went to celebrate the inauguration of the new president of Gatta.
Why who the hell knows? The El Secundo Times, which
Patrick soon Chiong has slowly crawling back to reality. They
got a story by David Zandheuser and Matt Hamilton that
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they just published this evening and they highlighted and they
didn't bury it. They highlighted the interaction between Bass and
the reporter there, David Blevins. As she returned to the US,
Bass faced some brutal assessments of the city's handling of
the fires. In one airport, she stood silently as a
(38:54):
Sky News reporter peppered her with questions about her decision
to go to Africa. You know the confrontation. Bass mostly
avoided eye contact as the reporter pressed her on whether
she needed to apologize to Angelino's for being in Africa
and whether she regretted reducing the fire department budget earlier
this year. Madame Bher, have you absolutely nothing to say
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to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster,
the reporter asked. Bass did not reply to any of
his questions and they opened the story. Though for the
first twenty four hours of the disaster, Bass was a
constant presence on social media. Shit her staff put out tweets.
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See here's my question. When they were gaming out the
wildfire response. Since she wasn't here, who on the staff said, hey,
do we have enough water? But if you have a
fire on your property or in your kitchen, it's the
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first thing you think of, Can I get water to
put this out?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What do you pour in a campfire? Poor water? Right?
If your grill gets a little, poor water. And here's
the detail. As the Palisades fire exploded, it's according to
the La Times, and new blazes broke out elsewhere, Marquise
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Harris Dawson City council president. Does anybody even know who
he is? He was this top elected official at news conferences,
Marquise Harris Dawson. I bet you ninety nine percent of
people in Los Angeles have no idea who this guy is.
Could not recognize him if they, you know, if he
fell out of the sky on their heads. Bass claimed
(41:02):
she took the fastest route back to the US. You know,
when you're coming from West Africa, there is no fastest route,
and she kept pointing out that she traveled partly on
a military plane and she had phone service. That's great.
Did she bring up the lack of water during her
phone calls? She all right?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Here.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The National Weather Service began warning of potentially strong winds
and extreme fire conditions on Thursday. I was wondering what
the official day was cause I couldn't remember Thursday. She
came back today, Wednesday of the following week, Ghana. I'm sorry.
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Bass left for Ghana on Saturday, so the weather servist says,
on Thursday, extreme fire conditions. Karen Bass says, oh wow,
that sounds awful. I'm going to Ghana two days later
because I didn't know when she left, and I don't
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know when the Weather Service put language in to make
you realize it was going to be very bad. But wow,
this is worst case scenario. Bass left for Ghana on Saturday.
Those warnings intensified over subsequent days by Monday officials who
were bracing for potentially life threatening and destructive winden storms.
(42:41):
How about that, So you got Thursday warnings, Friday warnings.
Bass goes to Gone on Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Now it's Tuesday,
Palisades fire breaks out of ten thirty five hours later,
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pass was enrooted from Ghana three point thirty in the
afternoon yesterday. She finally left when the warnings were out
last Thursday. Wow. And then while she's in the plane,
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more wildfires in al Dadina, Pasadena, Ballabou and Silmour. Don't
you think that she should have got to Ghana at all?
And don't you think she should have turned around and
came back as soon as she landed, like on Sunday,
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Because on Sunday there was a bulletin from the National
Weather Service warning of strong and damaging winds and critical
fire conditions. This isn't LA's first fire. And then you
know when you again, when you have the meeting, the
big meeting, Hey, Weather Services, extreme critical fire conditions, life
threatening windstorm, the whole or right, they couldn't come up
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with any any more words. Who at the meeting? Who
among the Karen Bass's board of geniuses goes, we have
enough water? What a how long is that water gonna last?
You know, these fires can go on for weeks. How
much water we have? Oh, we have seventeen hours worth?
Uh huh. And the winds are gonna be blown white
(44:30):
one hundred miles an hour. Uh huh, wow, that's fast.
That fire is going to cover a lot of territory. Yeah, sure,
you packed enough water there, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I just.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
And use some scolding people for politicizing it all. This
has to be politicized because elections put these people in power,
and then they make decisions, and their decisions are awful.
Either they are involve with some weird, sick ideology, or
(45:05):
they're just stupid, or they don't care. Of course it
should be politicized, and these people should be replaced in
a lot of countries and a lot of cultures. Karen
Bass would already have fallen on her sword and said,
you know what, I'm embarrassed. This is abysmal behavior. There's
(45:28):
no excuse. I'm going home, get somebody better. This isn't
for me. We come back. We're going to have human
him many doctor Human Jomny. We're gonna have him on
right after the two o'clock news. We're going to talk
about some of the medical aspects and of the fires,
(45:52):
what people are going through, and also he's going to
talk about what he describes as the criminal negligence of
Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, their policies which lead to
these fires, and not only the huge damage that people
(46:15):
are absorbing in their lives now with their homes, businesses
being destroyed, but all the medical problems that they're going
to be suffering from as well. We'll talk to Human Hamadi,
Doctor Hamati coming up right after the news and we're
on to three o'clock. Then Nil Savager comes in. We
are giving you twenty four coverage, twenty four hour coverage
(46:36):
of the fires here on KFI AM six forty, and
now we have news live from the twenty four hour
KFI News Center. Hey, you've been listening to the John
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