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January 17, 2025 33 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (01/17) - Royal Oakes comes on the show to talk about SCOTUS upholding the decision to ban TikTok in the United States. More on the failures of leadership during the fires. John details more about his personal experience of being in the Evacuation Warning Zone for the Palisades Fire. 100mph wind gusts are not unprecedented in Southern California. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'f I am six forty you're listening to the John
Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app around from one until
four and after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand
on the iHeart app. Next hour, two runs of the
Moistline where you get to vent your fury. And we're
also going to throw a hack at a dumpster, the
first one of twenty twenty five. And I'll I constantly

(00:25):
I would happily retrieve her from the dumpster or spare
her the dumpster if she would just resign in the
next hour and a half, because this woman has done
so much damage. It may not be who you're thinking.
We'll do that next hour. All right, let's take a
break briefly for something that affects far more lives in

(00:45):
America than the Palisades and Altadena fires, and it is
the possible death of TikTok. On Sunday, there's one hundred
and seventy million Americans who may see their TikTok screen
go dark, or maybe it'll just fade away.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We'll play you a little montage of people crying over
the demise of TikTok Royal Oaks. ABC News legal analyst
is going to discuss this now. A Supreme Court upheld
the law that Congress passed and Biden signed to ban TikTok.
It's going to happen on Sunday. Trump doesn't take over
until Monday. Let's uh, let's talk to royal right now,

(01:27):
how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm doing great, and you know, you're right. One hundred
and seventy million people. That's a lot of folks. And
you know, the interesting thing is that the US Supreme
Court was unanimous. I mean, John, when how often do
you get a unanimous decision out of out of the
Supreme Court? Very rare. But they all said, look, we
see the two issues. There's a free speech issue and

(01:50):
TikTok is saying you're censoring us and so on, and
we kind of are. But all of the justices said
it's vastly outweighed. But the danger that the Chinese government
is getting also, it's interesting factoids about a hundred seventy
million Americans, the possibility of invasion of privacy and blackmail extortion.
You know, let's just have an American company own this thing.

(02:10):
And of course it may they may not turn into
a Pumpkin on Sunday, because Donald Trump is now saying, well,
you know, maybe you can wheel and deal. I'm pretty
good at negotiations. So he's going to try to find
a buyer to take it over. But at the moment,
it's like the Supreme Court is saying, TikTok, TikTok, your
time is up on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, there are business entities that want to buy, but
is the Chinese government willing to sell?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah? Well, you know, they have no choice because they're
looking at losing a market of one hundred and seventy
million people. You know, even Elon Mosk apparently was interested
in poking around thinking about buying it. I mean, he's
already got acts obviously, but they just don't have much
bargaining position, right, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Really wondering if all purpose is setting this up was
to spy on Americans, then TikTok becomes worthless to them,
and maybe they're they're not going to sell and they're
not going to let America have this victory.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's right, that's right. And of course the app is
not going to disappear immediately Sunday, even if it just
goes through and there's no extension for ninety days, but
you won't be able to download the app after Sunday
and the new updates, the new shuffle dances won't be available,
so eventually it'll be unusable. But for the time being,

(03:27):
you know, there are several million shovel dances people can
still enjoy if they've got the app Prior to this,
I have.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
No idea what a shuffle dance is.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Two people having a lot of fun eye smiles on
their faces, and one hundred seventy million Americas love it. No.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I mean, I've heard people crying over this. Have you heard?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Because this is something that I've looked for and it
might be med escape my attention. What is it the
Chinese are actually doing? I mean to get both parties
in Congress and the President and the court to agree
that something ugly is going on behind the scenes with
this app.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
What is it they're doing?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well, they're doing two things. And everybody thinks about the
shuffle dances as being well, that's TikTok. It sounds harmless,
but actually there's more to it than that. It's it's
really like x and Facebook and the rest of the platforms.
The Chinese government, you know, soaks up like a sponge,
all sorts of information about our preferences, our opinions. You
know they have they have these networks of opinions that

(04:31):
you can express. And also it goes the other way,
you know, we there there could be threats the idea
of indoctrination of Americans if Facebook and their other platforms
are become sort of tools of the Chinese government. That's
why the Congress is almost unanimously. They decided early last year,

(04:53):
we got to get the Chinese out of this, and
then the US Supreme Court to go along. I mean,
the this is sending a very clear message to China.
We may want your premiere or second in command to
attend the inauguration, but we don't want you messing with
our folks who were obsessed.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
With they did they think the Chinese are not just
accumulating whatever data that they can get out of you
using TikTok, but everything in your phone and everything you've
put into all the other apps on your phone, and
all your search engine requests, and all your financial and
medical records that may be on your phone. I mean,

(05:30):
did they have some kind of virus that can suck
all the information about your life up and use it
against you.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, there is concern that it sort of has a
tentacle type effect that the Chinese government is able to
extend its influence and gather information. Now, the TikTok folks
have pushed back on that. They said, no, you know,
this paranoid is not happening. It's just all happy stuff,
everybody's dancing. But there's enough concern that you know, it

(05:59):
went through almost unanimously. Now there is a possible fix.
People are talking about maybe having a firewall so that China,
even if they remained the owner of bike Dance with
Jones TikTok, the China couldn't get all of our factoids
and all of our personal information. But that's not a
done deal. That's just you know, who would trust that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, I mean, if somebody really cared about that issue,
you'd really believe the Chinese would abide by the firewall
or just come up with software to crack through the firewall. Yeah,
all right, the people who gave you COVID are now
totally denied exactly. I mean, they already killed a million
of us with COVID. All right, very good, Royle, thank
you for coming on.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You you bet, thanks, Royal.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oaks, ABC News legal correspondent. All right, let us let's
play the mentage here of Tiktoker's emoting crying because TikTok's
getting banned and to.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
The US government, I'm never forgiving you for this and
I'm never going to trust you ever again, because you
just like that took away millions of people's income, livelihood.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
And who does that Supreme Court kept the band?

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Supreme Court said, Nope, doesn't violate your First Amendment rights.
I was not even planning on making this video. This
is not how I saw today going. I had a
little bit of faith in our broken government system.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I just think a lot of people who don't do
content don't realize that it's not easy.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's so so time consuming.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
You dedicate so much of your life to this job.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So anyone else just been crying on this app all
night because it feels like we're losing. Like this is
a guy community, I think, the same guy who was
crying at the Emergency Services at command center. We're we
have a really large group of emotionally damaged, brain damaged

(07:48):
teenagers and twenty somethings, don't we I mean, listen to
these people, they're grieving like you know, their their parents
died or their dog died. I mean, what, good Lord, No,
there's a lot of emotional insanity going on.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Shuffle Dance.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Meantime, the LA government has completely crumbled, but since it
didn't crumble on TikTok, a lot of people aren't following that.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So Karen Bass is having another press briefing, and who.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Is she with?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
This is Steve sober Off.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I believe.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
So he just called her the cizar and somebody, somebody
is asking her, somebody who lost their home is asking
her a question, and she's she's responding, but I'm not
sure what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, I'm watching the close caption and I also I'm
looking at the video and they have one of those
irritating placards in front that says LA Strong, Return and build.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
Well it's you know, it's either so Cow strong, Southern
California Strong, and now it's l A.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Strong Return and readuild.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Can we drop that lame cliche that started god over
ten years ago with the Boston Marathon shootings or the
bombings remember those terrorists. Yes, and it was Boston Strong
and everybody got all ex sided. And so every every
every town and city copies that every time.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Why do we have to have branding? You know it?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't need cheerleading, that's what looks like basses and
cheerleading mode. Just reading her body language and Steve sober
Off too, like she's hiding behind him because he's kind
of got a loud, bombastic style to him.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
He's waving his arms. That's nonsense.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
This is a cover to distract people from us getting
the real information as to why everybody screwed up so badly.
You see, it's like, no, no, let's look ahead here.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
We're gonna be La strong. We're gonna rebuild, We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Re I was just reading about the Woolsey fire, which
was twenty eight team in Maliboun. Half of the homes
that burned in twenty eighteen still haven't been built, so
there is no.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh, yeah, we're gonna rebuild the city. It's got to
be better than ever, bigger than No.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's gonna probably take ten years, and it's gonna be
very difficult because the city and the county and the
state makes it really difficult. I don't care how many
waivers they issue on their regulations. These people exist to
make things difficult, and these people exist to make bad,
deadly disastrous decisions.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
If you have the.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Same crew here who was on duty on January seventh
when the fire hit, then I wouldn't blame if everybody
in the Palisades just you cashed out and moved out
and headed for another state. Because this is the crowd
that created this disaster. They gave us half a fire department,

(10:58):
and the half we did have they did not deploy.
They chose not to deploy a thousand firefighters that they had.
They chose not to deploy forty engines. They chose not
to fill up the reservoir. They chose to cut the
budget when we needed double the funding. NEWSOM chose to
cut one hundred million dollars worth of environmental programs that

(11:22):
would have mitigated the fire.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
They're all rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
They don't believe in fire prevention, they don't believe in
climate change. That's all a cover to try to guilt
us into paying taxes. But when they actually get the money,
they either spend it on something else, or waste it,

(11:50):
or steal it. I told you about the Michael Schellenberger story.
He added up that the state spends forty billion a year,
forty billion on homeless, illegal aliens, and climate change. If
we could get two percent of that forty billion, we
could double the LA Fire Department in size, have twice

(12:13):
as many firefighters, twice as many engines, twice as many
of everything, if we got two percent of the money
that they that they waste catering to homeless people and
illegal aliens, and all the money they waste on their
nonsense climate change programs, which has no effect on the climate.

(12:35):
Speaking of climate change, I should do this right after
the news. Why I remember it for all the people.
And I assume that you know a lot of the
people in government in the media, and even they're ignorant
and they don't know this, or they do know this
and they're lying. But people online have found that there

(12:55):
is a long history of one hundred mile per hour
wins here in the southern California region and in Los Angeles,
and they're posting the newspaper articles to prove it, because
there's massive newspaper archive on the internet. And when anybody says,
why this is unprecedented. We've never seen it before. That's false.

(13:16):
Yes you have. Well there's no way we could have anticipated.
Yes you could. These people found the news articles in
about five minutes. You chose not to do anything about it.
You chose not to spend money. You chose not to
send the firefighters out. You chose not to send the
fire engines out. You chose not to fill up the reservoir.
I'm going to repeat this till the end of time.

(13:38):
I'm not going to go along with what. ELA's strong,
so cal strong. That's nonsense, childish cheerleading, trying to distract you. Oh,
let's look ahead. It's all about the future. No, it's
not not if it's the same crowd running things off
with their heads heads on a stick.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Head's on a stick for.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
This crowd first, because they have made living here difficult
and actually impossible. Now now it's it's it's impossible to
live here.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I even talked about the last night's chapter in our.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh yeah, you have to do that too.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay, so I'll talk about the we.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Have something in common, that's the first one.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
What you were what you're going to talk about?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
All right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just teasing.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
You're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from kf I
Am six forty.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
We're on from one until four. After four o'clock John
Cobel Show on Demand, that's the podcast on the iHeart app.
After three o'clock, we're going to talk with Matt Heimes.
He wrote a piece in the New York Post today
and he says he's a former Liberal and he cannot

(14:56):
believe the ineptitude by Karen Bass and g and do
Some and all the other Democrats who are governing us.
And he says a lot of people are switching sides
now in California because everyone is so appalled as to
what's gone on here actually really for the last ten years,

(15:17):
but especially in the last ten days. So we'll talk
with Matt Himes. And you ought to read his piece
in the New York Post. When you get a chance,
he'll be on. We got two rounds of the moistline.
We got hacking a dumpster. Somebody who's part of the
massive failure of the people in Pacific Palisades and her
name will go down in infamy. And it's not who

(15:40):
you might think, but an important component in this disaster.
And these people they've got to be shamed out of town,
out of their jobs. They must be shamed, they must
be fired, replace resign. However, we'll even hold a farewell
party for them, we'll give them fake wards, but they've

(16:00):
got to go because what they've done is so tragic
and damaging. And you know, I heard some of that
town hall meeting, and the suffering that the people have
gone on in Pacific, people have suffered from the Palisades
is just unthinkable, unimaginable, overwhelming. I keep finding out more
and more people that I know or my wife knows,
who suffered either a total wipeout or a partial wipeout,

(16:23):
and it's going to go on for years. Like I said,
the Woolseley fire in Malibu, six not seven years later,
half the homes have still not rebuilt. So I stressed
this up front, and like I did yesterday, because I
have also been telling you about what's going on in
my neighborhood, and I'm on the fringe of things in

(16:43):
more ways than one. But we were in an evacuation
warning zone in West LA. Did not have to evacuate.
The mandatory zone was two blocks short, but they shut
off our power understandably probably a prevetative measure.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Do you have power back yet?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Week week, it's been a week.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Happened Friday night after I went to sleep, got up
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Everything was dark and didn't.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Really shock me, and I figured they might shut off
the power as a precaution because they said they would.
But now it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Cannot get answers from anybody, which is the part that's
so infuriating. Still, I got an email from a local

(17:28):
homeowners association which claims that the DWP before they energize
the lines, they have to get clearance from cal Fire
and the LA Fire Department. See there's some cluster bleep
of a committee made up of LA Fire Department, cal Fire, LAPD,

(17:49):
DWP pull alphabet soup here, and who knows what other
agencies and commissions are are on this list, and they
are the.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
They have a lockdown on information.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
They're not any not even telling local politicians what's going on.
So we have people with lights on just maybe a
block or two away, and they say, well, it's a
north south grid. So if they shut down the electricity
up in the hills because it could be impacted by

(18:26):
the fire, then you'll get impacted down below. But there's
no specifics that say here's what the problem is, here's
what we're working on, or we're ready to go to
turn on the electricity again, but we need approval from
the X and Y agencies. No word on when they're meeting,

(18:47):
no word on what the evaluation criteria is. Nothing, nothing,
and it's extremely frustrating. Now that would be one thing, right,
Power blackouts happen. This is the disaster of all disasters.
But then, and this is the part that really has
me crazy. We've had seven break ins on our block

(19:08):
in two nights. Seven were our street's only one block long,
five to the first night to the second night. The
two last night were interrupted. One of the guys in
the neighborhood had moved out, heard what was going on,
moved back in and thwarted or chased away. Everybody has

(19:30):
hired private security, foot patrols. They're now armed, armed security
walking up and down the block and they're ready to go.
There's a lot of off duty cops, X cops ex military.
It's like a war zone. They're patrolling front yards, backyards,

(19:54):
I wouldn't go into any neighborhood on the West Side.
Not that I think that the leaders are listening to
our show. I was going to say, serious, it's like
the chief doing that the other day.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
All right, homeless, our homeless friends, please don't cook outside.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, well, our looter friends. I wouldn't go into all
these West Side neighborhoods. People are really pissed. There's one
guy at the end of the block, and I asked
my wife to send me a photo, but he had
a He had a sign in front of his house
that said something like, uh, uh, don't come here, I
will shoot you dead.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
F you.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Oh I saw your wife posted that. It's on stage.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Oh yeah she posted it.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, but yeah she did.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Oh I love that. I love that. But John, didn't
you have didn't you have? H didn't you have? Somebody
trying to light a fire in your area?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Too?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Happened to me guy jumped the fence in our neighborhood
with a torch. What are the odds that in your
neighborhood and my neighborhood within the same week we would
both have guys running around with lit torches.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Unbelievable that that's happening.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You would have thought that's a freak story for your
whole wife.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
Did you guys zip tie that guy like my neighbors did.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
I was asleep, so did he get away?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I do know there was definitely burglaries that went on,
and I do know how they got in. There's a
number of things I can't get into. Maybe after all
this blows over, I got some fascinating stuff to tell you,
But in the interests of my own welfare, I'm not
going to tell all the details on what everybody's doing.
But I'm just saying, just like, don't don't mess with

(21:32):
people these days.

Speaker 8 (21:32):
But with the torch John, is he still running around
out there that he's going to go to around the neighborhoods?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I don't know. The thing is, well, here's what I'm
getting to.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I and we in the neighborhood are paying for two
security services that are driving around. We're paying for separate
foot patrol security guys. All right, So we're paying for three,
and all the other neighbors are paying for three as well.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
We're sharing some of the costs.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
On top of that, we're paying an enormous amount of
taxes for the LAPD who did come around once yesterday,
and they supposedly are very nice and very upset about
what's going on, which leads me to believe, just like
with the firefighters, it's management that's screwing up.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think management screwed up the firefighting response, not the
actual firefighters, because I understand they're very upset there. Some
of them are quite distraught because they dee their entire
lives so that this stuff doesn't happen. And the cops
also want to protect the neighborhoods. That's why they got
into the business, but they are being prevented by idiots

(22:42):
in management. Often it's management that f f's things up
in all businesses, all right, And that's what we've got here,
so I have I I was talking before how the
LA Fire Department was getting criticized for social crimes. Let's

(23:04):
just leave it at that. I don't feel like getting
into the details right now, social crimes, right where they
treat women, racial issues, this and that. But I was
telling somebody this morning, it's like, you know what, I
don't care anymore about any of that stuff. I don't
care about social issues. I don't care about the sex harassment.
I don't care about gender parts. All I want is

(23:24):
big burly guys to come and put out the fire
and dig burly guys to kill these looters. You know,
I'll do a social evaluation of their morals some other time.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
But when you need, you need.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Grown men with a lot of testosterone to fight fires
and take on armed criminals. They may not be real
warm and cuddly in their personal lives or somebody you
want to spend time with in an office.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
They might be.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Rude and crude and boorish and obnoxious and offensive. I
don't care anymore. We've got to get over that. We
need the rough masculine. We need all the toxic masculinity
we can get right now where it comes to the
fire department of the police department. Enough of all this

(24:16):
other garbage. This is the woke religious zelots who feminized
our culture and cordoned off the effective men and women
in the LAPD and in the LAFD. And if you
could take all the time they probably spent in sensitivity

(24:36):
classes and instead put it into coming up with a
battle plan. What happens if there's one hundred mile an
hour winds in the Palisades. What happens when the power
is out for a week and the looters decide to
take over a neighborhood. They should put all their meeting
time into that. No more woke sensitivity training. Somebody is

(24:57):
out of line than fire them. Do you have an
individual and he's he's he's he's acting up and making
life difficult for people, Just get rid of him, move on.
Hire somebody new who's uh more decent. But we've got
we've got to we've got to stop the way we
handle the fire department, in the police department. They're they're
they're not meant to be priests and ministers. They're they're

(25:20):
they're meant to be guys who are willing to save
my life and give up their own life in the
face of enormous danger. And that that's the way it's
got to be again, And everybody ought to get off
the woke train. Give it up already. You're killing us,

(25:40):
You're literally killing us, you're literally destroying the city. That
that phrase is always used as hyperbole, or you're destroying
the city. Knowing this case, it's destroying the city. We
come back. I want to get to those newspaper clips
because we got we got much planned for the three
o'clock hour.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
You're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI A six.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Coming up after three o'clock, we're gonna talk with Matt Hymes.
He lost his Pacific Palisades home. He's a writer and
editor former liberally says, and the leader's bass knew some
and the rest of them are so in neth he said,
a lot of people are changing sides. They're they're done
with the one party rule in California because it's incompetent

(26:26):
and dangerous. We'll talk with Matt coming up. You may
have heard the Karen Bass defenders. If they're not claiming
it's racism and sexism or claiming that well one hundred
mile an hour wins, there's nothing you can do. This
is unprecedented, never happened before. Who would have expected this, Well,
it's a lot of crap because a few people online.

(26:48):
Steve Maloy, he runs an online side about junk science,
and he's described as the most influential climate science contrarian, Like.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
He's not buying this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
So he spent some time going into the newspaper archives
and finding out that let's go to January thirteenth, nineteen
eighty nine. Wow, almost exactly to the day Napa Valley
Register headline, one hundred mile prior winds rip southern California.
This is what I'm telling you. Sant Ana winds always

(27:26):
blow in January, and there have been bad fires in January.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
This was about the wind.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Thousands of truckers and air travelers were stranded. One hundred
thousand residents lost power. Santa Ana wins tore through southern
California up to one hundred miles an hour, closing Ontario
Airport for ten hours, shredding one of the world's largest blimps,
damaging an airliner. There toppled a dozen tractor trailers. Maybe

(27:54):
some of you out in an empire, remember this? Let
me see here. Then people started posting other things. Ah,
here we go. Somebody went back to November twenty second,
nineteen fifty seven, the La Times big headline. Extra addition,
eighteen thousand acre fire flames driven by one hundred mile

(28:18):
per hour gusts. Mount Wilson gets an evacuation alert. It's
the same stories, over and over through time. Relentless hurricane
forest winds blasted across southern California yesterday, causing untold property damage,
fanning an eighteen thousand acre mountain fire in the San
Gabriel Mountains wildly out of control, lifting clouds of dust

(28:38):
and debris and wrecking homes. Uh sixteen people were injured.
And it goes on and on. Here's another one, Los
Angeles Times, March seventeenth, nineteen sixty four. Thirty five homes
lost one hundred mile per hour gusts spread fires.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's the headline.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Thirty five homes lost one hundred miles per an hour gusts.
Structures perled in Glendale, Burbank, Eagle Rock and Pasadena. This
you had nineteen sixty one, the bel Air fire, and
they had the same problems. Dry conditions, extream winds, low

(29:20):
water pressure in the fire, hydrants. In fact, there's a
documentary from nineteen sixty two entitled LAFD Design for Disaster.
Here's another clip. I don't know the time of this
fire started when hurricane force wins down to Parol line

(29:41):
burned one hundred and sixty acres of brush near Ramona.
Let me look at another one here, ah nineteen thirty eight.
Somebody has a clip damage near Los ange list rated
at three million nowadays that would be one house. Malibu

(30:05):
Beach threatened two thousand men fought desperately. Wow, they had
two thousand firefighters in nineteen thirty eight. A fully funded
fire department back then burned over five hundred thousand burned,
over fifty thousand acres of land destroyed, between six hundred
and seven hundred homes. The homes destroyed and in danger

(30:26):
included the country estates of many movie stars. The five
hundred thousand dollars Will Rogers Ranch in the Riviera District
was evacuated by Missus Rogers and her sons. Well, the
Will Rogers State Park suffered a big loss. I think
one of the historic buildings they're burned last week. So
you get stories here from nineteen thirty eight, nineteen fifty seven,

(30:47):
nineteen sixty four, nineteen eighty nine, all about one hundred
mile an hour winds and big fires. So it's not unprecedented.
It's not unexpected. It has been seen before. And if
anybody ever sits Karen Bass or Kristin Crowley down, you
can model these situations. Now, did you ever sit at

(31:09):
a meeting and model these worst case scenario fires with
one hundred miles an hour. When did you come up
with a battle plan. This is what I haven't heard
is the forecast. They had five days in advance, and
when wind day finally arrived, Kristin Crowley, the fire chief,
did not send the thousand firefighters up or the extra

(31:32):
forty engines and disperse them throughout the Santa Monica Mountain
footholes on the so south and north side.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Historically this happens, maybe every decade or so. It happens,
And you could do the computer modeling the way they
do computer modeling with hurricanes. If you watch, if you
go to the weather channel, right hurricanes coming, and you
see they have twelve colored lines sewing different paths. Those
are twelve different computers taking all the data, looking at

(32:03):
the historical paths that hurricanes take based on the data,
and usually a few of them are right, and you
could preposition your resources. You think Gavin Newsom and Karen
Bass and Kristin Crowley ever sat together at one of
those meetings where the scientists revealed the computer modeling and

(32:26):
they crafted a strategy to have enough engines and firefighters
in place. You could schedule it on a day when
Bass is not traveling to Africa. Really, you could break
that out. We come back two rounds of the moistline,
the first Hack in a Dumpster of twenty twenty five,

(32:47):
and next we're going to talk to Matt Himes, writer
and editor, lost his Pacific Palisades home last week and
he's fed up. And he says a lot of his
friends and neighbors are fed up with Bass News, them
and the whole democratic machine in this state, and they're
switching sides. Deborah Mark live in the KFI twenty four
hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt

(33:08):
Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on
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