February 13, 2025 • 29 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (02/13) - David Mansdoerfer comes on the show to talk about RFK Jr. being confirmed as the new Secretary of Health and Human Services. Kamala Harris is still polling well to be the Democratic candidate for Governor of California. The number of illegal border crossings are at the lowest point in almost 60 years. The LAPD has been telling people how to avoid ICE.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Today is the day that Robert F.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Kennedy Junior was officially cleared by the Senate to become
the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, which is
an enormous bureaucracy that covers Medicare, Medicaid, National Institutes of Health,
and many many other things. And he's going to run
it now, and he was sworn in and there has
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been obviously, I don't think we have to go through
all the controversies that swirl around RFK, but there's been
quite a few, and everyone's wondering, well, what is he
actually going to do? Well, we're going to talk now,
is that David Mansdorff. David is a former senior executive
and Deputy Assistant Secretary at Health and Human Services during
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the first Trump administration, and he's been involved in the
transition team for the current administration, and he's gonna tell
us what may be coming with Robert Kennedy Junior running
Health and Human Services.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
David, how are you wonderful?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean, so much of the publicity surrounding RFK Junior
is about his various vaccine theories, and it tends to
obscure what is he going to do in a day
to day sense that's going to have a meaningful impact
on people's lives. Most people really don't pay attention to
Health and Human Services unless you know, they don't get
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their Medicare coverage on time. So can you explain what
you think his philosophy is going to be and how
that's going to affect the average person.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, Well, to start, Robert F. Kennedy is going to
focus heavily on chronic disease in the United States. Has
been one of the tenants that he has talked about
for the last couple of decades, and you can see
it even in his remarks today, really focusing on the
childhood obesity crisis, which even stems into military readiness, and
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how our children aren't able to join the military because
of their physical fitness capabilities, and all the way to
dietary guidelines, conversations around minority health and women's health. So
I see Robert F. Kennedy having a significant opportunity to
reshape public health in the United States in ways that
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we have not seen before.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I heard today that nearly half the country is considered obese,
which is stunning, and obesity leads to heart disease and
diabetes and strokes and all kinds of terrible outcomes. You
just don't live all that long if you're way overweight.
But most people have also heard the lectures on how
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to live a healthier lifestyle and they ignore them. So
what's Kennedy going to do to change people's behavior in
a meaningful way? Since I think virtually everybody knows what
they're supposed to do, but they.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I think that's going to be the trick, right
to seeing how successful we can be and how he's successful.
He's going to be a secretary. But to me, there
is a almost ideological relationship between I would say maybe
our crunchy listeners from Santa Barbara to our urban and
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rural Texas moms, where we've seen an uprising in the
interest about things that go into our food, the interest
in things that go into our medications and how quickly
we're put on certain medications, and just an interest in
focusing more on holistic measures to address some of these
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health crisises, not just the pharmaceutical or ama focus on health.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Talk about the food.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
First, you get onto a grocery store, endless aisles, top
to bottom shelves, just hundreds of products, all junk.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
People. There's obviously an.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Addictive quality that the food companies have created in all
the especially the snack foods, you know, the chips and
the pretzels, and the cookies and the cakes. I mean,
it's just incredible. And I think what people look like
when I was a kid compared to what they look
like now. And I didn't realize this was going on.
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My wife would tell me this, and I eventually realized
she was right that the ingredients that the food companies
put in this stuff is addictive and people lose control
of their diet. Now, what can be done against the
food companies?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, So there's a couple of conversations around that. One
is and your listeners will likely know that the food
pyramid and the dietary guidelines. But what a lot of
people don't understand is those dietary guidelines that you know,
one year we love salt, one year we hate salts.
You know, we have these wildly varying conversations about what's
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good for you. Those are actually up for to be
relooked at this year. And so what folks need to
understand is those dietary guidelines actually go into the way
that schools buy their school lunches, and so that is
a significant opportunity to really reshape how many of America's
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youth get fed through the public school system by shaping
the way that AHHS views the dietary guidelines and makes
determinations about what would make Americans and especially use healthier.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Again, well, what changes should there be?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Like I said, everybody's always told, you know, eat fruits
and vegetables, don't eat the junk food that's packaged what
do they call the ultra processed food. It's like, but yeah,
I'm Michelle Obama tried this a few years ago, right,
serving vegetables to kids, and they.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Threw them all out.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, So I think there's two conversations. One there is
obviously making sure that things like, you know, the way
we classify meat. You know, many people don't understand is
that we actually import meat into the United States, let
it stay here, and then because of that for after
a certain time period, it can be classified as American meat.
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There are other things that get put into get put into,
you know, all of these packaged foods that we know
are addictive, that we know are detrimental, that we've just
never been able to challenge from a public health standpoint.
So to me, having a disruptor like Robert F. Kennedy,
who isn't a traditional Republican, isn't a really a traditional Democrat,
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but spans those ideological lines give him the ability, under
a President Trump, to really take on the industrial complex
around food and the health industries.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now, the pharaceutical industry. You mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Everybody who watches television sees endless commercials for medications that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Handle diseases that nobody's ever heard of. But I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm astonished at all the different pills that are sold
on television. I'm astonished at how many antidepressants everybody takes
in America, and on and on and on. I mean,
ever since they legalized television commercials, it seems that everybody
is on twelve different prescriptions at the same time. And
what can Kennedy do about that?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, I think that's going to be a big conversation
because the United States is actually one of the few
countries in the world that allows direct to consumer marketing
for prescription drugs. So a you have that, and then
do you have the empowerment of the patient to go
in to their provider and say, Hey, I want that
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drug that I saw on TV. And then if I'm
a provider and I don't give you that drug, then
I get a negative rating, and then that inpects my
ability to you know, see other patients, and so like,
there are all of these perverse incentives in healthcare that
I think are significant opportunities to be disrupted. Let alone
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the conversations about you know, like with COVID nineteen in particular,
all the money that went into making sure that doctors
who met certain thresholds received bonuses. And so that's not
just a COVID nineteen conversation from a vaccine perspective. There
are other drugs that fall into that model too, where
you have doctors being incentivized to put folks on certain
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prescription drugs and they get bonuses when they hit certain threshold.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
A few years ago, there was that mini series on
Hulu I think called Dope Sic and it was a
dramatized version of what happened in the nineteen nineties when
the pharmaceutical companies got a significant percentage of America hooked
and opioids, and the rewards that went to the doctors
for providing the prescriptions, the conferences, the travel, the pretty
girls who come in with all the samples with those drugs,
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until the doctors themselves were getting hooked. I remember Michael
Keaton was in it. What I mean that made it
seem like the drug industry is quite corrupt, is it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know? I don't think i'd want to make a
broad brush statement about the drug industry as a whole,
because there are necessary and life saving medications out there.
But when it comes to some of these drugs being
pushed that are new onto the market and then suddenly
everyone's taking them and there's not a lot of scientific
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evidence long term about their impacts as a whole, I
think that's very difficult to you know, for a place
to put Americans into, especially when you know, again we're
one of the few countries that allows for that direct
to consumer marketing. So to me, while I don't want
to broad brush the entire industry, I do think that
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serious reforms need to happen that really protect the American
patient and consumer from really just jumping onto the next
fad after next fad where we don't really know the
long term health outcomes.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
David, thank you for coming on. David Mannsdorffer and former
senior executive and Deputy Assistant Secretary of HHAs thanks very much,
and he was talking about RFK taking over the Health
and Human Services Department got officially approved and sworn in today.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
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Speaker 2 (11:07):
I don't know if this is depressing, frightening, or both.
Not to scare you, but Emerson College has done a
poll on who people would vote for on the Democratic side.
For Governor Kamala Harris got fifty seven percent of the vote.
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Fifty seven percent of Democrats in California would go for
Kamala Harris. Let's pause for a moment of silence. Okay,
this can't be after all that's happened, after all the
things that have gone haywire in the state. Eight years
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of Newsom, eight years of Jerry Brown, that's sixteen years
of progressive politics, and then it could be eight years
of Kamala.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Fifty seven percent. This really upset me.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Second place is missus potato head Katie Porter at nine percent.
Third place is via Gosa, and then fourth place is
the Lieutenant governor, Elany Conolacus.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So who would you rather have via ra Gosa or
Harris via ra Gosa? And I answered that quickly, did
not Yes, you did? But why is that the choice?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Unfortunately two thirds of the state is never going to
vote for a Republican and it's nearly impossible for an
independent to run the way things are structured, And.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So we're left with what is wrong with voters here?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Why would you want to follow up eight years of
Gavin Newsom with with Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Have you seen what happened in Washington the last four years?
Is anyone paying attention?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Did you see the progressives that burned down the palisades?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
On the other.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Side is Chad Bianco, the Riverside County sheriff, and he's
going to run for governor in twenty twenty six. We've
had him on a number of times and we'll have
him one again soon. So he's well, I hope. You know,
the Republicans run a lot of bad candidates in recent years.
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Just you know, they might be nice guys, but they
were bad candidates. And Bionco at least has a lot
of fierceness in him. You know, he's got a personality,
he's got fees very good. At all you have to
do is say the obvious of what goes on in California,
And I would think anybody with half a brain would say,
we need to change here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And I like that he's a sheriff.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, we've ended up with tons of criminals, tons
of homelessness, extremely high taxes, billions of dollars of waste,
the high speed rail debacle, the climate change nonsense. Ough,
and then you know that the Progressives don't spend money
on things like the fire department. Oh, because the Progressives
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remember the Holy Trinity. They worship homeless people, criminals, and
illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What do you think Kamala Harris is gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
She created this huge mess that Trump is trying to
clean up. I mean, you hear all the spending stories
that Musk and Trump are finding every day, Well it
was her and Biden. So now we're going to bring
that to California. I mean, she's way worse than Newsome.
I mean, Newsom looks like a Rhodes scholar next to
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Kamalain Harris. I just can't. This is can't right, it can't.
I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Where are you going? Oh? I'm going going over this?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, Tama Harris wins. I think finally it's exit bag time.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well wouldn't it be good? Wouldn't it be good for business?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't know if I can't take it though. That's
the sound you're gonna hear on election night, all right
when we come back. Oh yeah, she was. The immigrations
are right, Well, we've got all kinds of immigration news
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as Tom Holman and Trump try to clean up.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That massive mess. Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The you know that there there are leakers apparently within
the FBI, Homan Suspects, or ice, who are giving news
organization's advanced information on the raids. Now there's immigrant rights
activists who want to take advantage of this advanced this
advanced information and disrupt the ICE raids here in California.
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Will give you details on that coming up, along with
all kinds of immigration news.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Catla Harris fifty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
Boys line is coming back Friday. Well that's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Something about this week really really blew by fast eight
seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty
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This story just came out twenty minutes ago. I had
given you a little tease before Debra's news that we
are going to discuss the illegal the leaks coming from
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the FBI that's thwarting some of ICE's attempts to do
raids to arrest the legal aliens, and how media outlets
are publicizing the leaks. Well, this is good news. This
is actually amazing. The number of illegal border crossings are
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at lows not seen since nineteen sixty eight. It's been
almost sixty years. In February, there's only been three hundred
and fifty nine illegal aliens a day that have been
caught crossing the border. You remember at times during the
Biden administration, it was over ten thousand a day. Now
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it's down to three hundred and fifty nine a day.
This is the lowest monthly border crossings if it keeps
up at this level, lowest since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's what did what did Trump do? And what did
it cost? This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
People have to rethink this Kamala Harris idea for governor
because if you're just tuning in, she gets fifty seven
percent of the vote from Democrats. How much incompetence does
the lady have to show before you say, hey, maybe
somebody else. I mean, there was a list of about
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ten candidates and she got fifty seven. Now, granted most
people don't know the names of any of the other
ten candidates, but outside of he where goes? But honest
to God, went from ten thousand a day to three
hundred and fifty nine. And Trump did it just like
that with the existing staff, right he took over, and
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they haven't had a chance to hire anybody new with
the existing money is available, and without you know, they've
they've arrested a certain number every day. But these are
the crossings. All you have to do is say no
more and we're going to arrest you and deport you.
That's all you had to do. But they knew this
at the Biden administration. The Biden administration was taken over
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by these wacky progressives who wanted to create mayhem in
the country.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
They must must have.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
They're leftists who did not believe that we're entitled to
have a free, capitalist, to capitalistic society. That America is evil,
it's it's it's racist and sexist, to homophobic and the
xenophobic and this and that, and so we have to
all be punished. And so they sent in ten million
illegal aliens and sent them, you know, and then once
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Greg Abbott started sending them to the big cities, then
all hell broke loose.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Now let me go on, Well, let's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See if that number holds three fifty nine a day. Now,
these these progressive organizations, and they're really anarchists. They LA
Times has found out that they are planning to disrupt raids.
There's some whack job named Ron Gochez, spokeshole for a
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Union del Barrio. They have built sixty organizations, a coalition
to disrupt illegal alien arrests. Now right now they're going
after criminals. This is what's galling about it. It's criminals,
it's felons, it's violent people, it's really bad people who
hurt innocent people, including other illegal aliens, not to mention Americans.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And this is what I'm saying about.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
This is destructive anarchists who want to just upend our
daily life. But you know, Biden crowd was fully on
board with them. They're calling themselves the Community Self Defense Coalition.
Now you have left wing leakers inside the FBI apparently
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or at ICE. They're sending out in for where the
raids are going to happen, and then left wing media
outlets like the news station up in San Francisco's KCBS,
they were giving out addresses of whether the raids were
going to happen in San Francisco, including the uh making
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models and color of the cars that were going to
be used. Now what's going to happen is if the
bad guys are tipped off, these are armed felons, they're
going to shoot to death the ICE agents or other
other law enforcement that's been recruited to do this. So
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these these these radio anchors on a Sunday morning, these
progressive nuts that have infiltrated the news station up in
San Francisco are going to lead to these agents getting killed.
Of course they They've leaked information to the La Times
as well, not as specific. The thing is, these raids
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have been carried out impeccably so far. You can't criticize
Nobody rational would criticize going after illegal alien criminals. In fact,
eighty three percent of the country supports going after illegal
alien criminals. Only ten percent of the countries against it. However,
that ten percent is embedded in the government and apparently
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at the FBI, and apparently obviously in the media outlets.
You know, there were media outlets in Aurora, Colorado that
gave a heads up to the trendy Aragua gang who've
actually been killing people in America. This is what works
for your local television, radio and newspapers. This is the
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kind of people that work far out whack job progressives.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
ICE has average more than nine hundred daily arrests as
of the last week of January, which is two and
a half times more than.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Biden's final year in office.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Department of Homeland Security said in the first week and
deported seventy three hundred people, which if it continues at
this pace would be three hundred and fifty thousand in
a year. Of course, Trump says that's not nearly enough,
and he's putting a lot of pressure on ICE. I
think he actually might have devoted some ICE people because
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he's not happy with the speed of this. Of course,
they're getting undermined by people within the Trump government, like
at the FBI, They're getting undermined by the news media.
This is such a hateful crowd, these progressives. And Kamala
Harrison was a part of all this. She enabled all this.
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She'd lied about the border constantly. She was absolutely a
doue nothing when it came to being the borders are.
That was totally phony theater. So, of course fifty seven
percent of the Democrats in the state want to make
our governor because that's going to make life better. We
got we've got more to come. Here's something we'll talk
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about next.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
The UH may be surprised at this. You would think that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
The federal government is going to be constantly testing the
soil after the toxic remains are cleaned up, and that
they're going to dig deep and make sure that there
isn't toxicity, you know, way below the surface that's not true.
They're going to do a little bit of testing and
clean up a little bit of soil and then they're
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out of here. Hard to believe, but we'll talk about
it coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
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Speaker 1 (24:59):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Coming up in just minutes. You can follow us on
social media. Follow us already at John Cobelt Radio at
John Cobelt Radio. It's worth it. This just came within
the last hour. This is just galling. I mean it's galling.
These people are out of their minds. According to RedState
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dot Com Jennifer Vanlaar, as the writer, the LAPD Police
Commissioner is directing the department to coach illegal aliens how
to evade ice. This is LAPD Police Commissioner. I was
just telling you how there are people in the FBI
and maybe an ICE who are linking information about raids
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and thwarting the raids, and then there are these progressive
news outlets that are publicizing the raids right down to
the street and the color and make a model of
the cars that are being used.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Well.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
According to Jennifer Van laur.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
An activist member of the Los Angeles Board of Police commissioners,
as well as LAPD personnel and resources are being used
to conduct seminars entitled know your Rights and provide these
illegal aliens red cards with those rights spelled out in English,
Spanish and other languages. Now remember at the moment Trump
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Tom Holman is going after illegal alien criminals. Also people
who applied for asylum and the judges said no and
issued a deportation notice, and those deportation notices were resisted.
The commissioner is the LAPD Board Commissioner, Lou Calanche, and
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he did this last week during a meeting, and then
there were other LAPD personnel who were carrying out the
red cards. So now you have an LAPD commissioner actively
publicly trying to get trying to thwart ice raids here
in Los Angeles. We will have more on this tomorrow.
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Conway and Thompson. Yeah, I'm confused.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Tuesday, I had to do it to Amorial service on Tuesday,
so I came in out. I said, you want me
to come in on you another day? And I said, yeah,
please come in on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Yeah. Sorry, Well, I mean guy had a good life,
was an older man. Oh he was. It was like
he'd reached his expiration day. I baby, no, no, no,
Now you're bumming me out.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Okay, you have to justify his death to Yeah. Yeah,
it's a bum bum thing to do.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Man, it was. It was still set.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Rick Crusso's coming on with us. Good.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, is that true? That's right?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He says that once a week though, and shoves Russa.
I have yet to be here to day Carusso called.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Hey, you know, how come you know, when the cops
say they're not going to do the the ice raids,
how come the cops don't go out to Santa Anita
and shoe away all the PEDA people too?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Are there PEDA people at in a while?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
On a still?
Speaker 7 (28:02):
You know, at Santa Anita two years ago, I was
at Breeders' Cup, big huge day out there Friday and Saturday, November,
and there were sixty five thousand people inside Santa Anita.
There were nine people from PETA outside protesting. All the stations,
all the new stations talked to the nine people, didn't
talk once anybody inside.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I know. That's the part of the Sikoh progressive movement.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Now, Mark, you know those Shiites.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Then we got a lot of rain talking. Mark's a member.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Oh yeah, I'm a car you know, I'm a founding member. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
They've gone to a conservative for me.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And then we got Dean Sharp coming on today. But
the big story is the rain. You know, it just
started unbelievably a downpour right here in Burbank.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
It is biblical range ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's going to be a fun ride home.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Connway Burley made it in look at.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Emergency alert warnings on all the time. Yeah, there you go,
flash flood warning.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
That means that there's flash flooding going on right now
in warning.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Is that right? Oh yeah, we did just ran that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I didn't listen to it fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah, you're busy, corruption.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'll probably drive right into the flood. Now we'll get you.
Keep everybody drive all right, Conway think Thompson. It's a
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Today is the day that Robert F.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Kennedy Junior was officially cleared by the Senate to become
the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, which is
an enormous bureaucracy that covers Medicare, Medicaid, National Institutes of Health,
and many many other things. And he's going to run
it now, and he was sworn in and there has
(00:47):
been obviously, I don't think we have to go through
all the controversies that swirl around RFK, but there's been
quite a few, and everyone's wondering, well, what is he
actually going to do? Well, we're going to talk now,
is that David Mansdorff. David is a former senior executive
and Deputy Assistant Secretary at Health and Human Services during
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the first Trump administration, and he's been involved in the
transition team for the current administration, and he's gonna tell
us what may be coming with Robert Kennedy Junior running
Health and Human Services.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
David, how are you wonderful?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean, so much of the publicity surrounding RFK Junior
is about his various vaccine theories, and it tends to
obscure what is he going to do in a day
to day sense that's going to have a meaningful impact
on people's lives. Most people really don't pay attention to
Health and Human Services unless you know, they don't get
(01:48):
their Medicare coverage on time. So can you explain what
you think his philosophy is going to be and how
that's going to affect the average person.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, Well, to start, Robert F. Kennedy is going to
focus heavily on chronic disease in the United States. Has
been one of the tenants that he has talked about
for the last couple of decades, and you can see
it even in his remarks today, really focusing on the
childhood obesity crisis, which even stems into military readiness, and
(02:19):
how our children aren't able to join the military because
of their physical fitness capabilities, and all the way to
dietary guidelines, conversations around minority health and women's health. So
I see Robert F. Kennedy having a significant opportunity to
reshape public health in the United States in ways that
(02:41):
we have not seen before.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I heard today that nearly half the country is considered obese,
which is stunning, and obesity leads to heart disease and
diabetes and strokes and all kinds of terrible outcomes. You
just don't live all that long if you're way overweight.
But most people have also heard the lectures on how
(03:04):
to live a healthier lifestyle and they ignore them. So
what's Kennedy going to do to change people's behavior in
a meaningful way? Since I think virtually everybody knows what
they're supposed to do, but they.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I think that's going to be the trick, right
to seeing how successful we can be and how he's successful.
He's going to be a secretary. But to me, there
is a almost ideological relationship between I would say maybe
our crunchy listeners from Santa Barbara to our urban and
(03:41):
rural Texas moms, where we've seen an uprising in the
interest about things that go into our food, the interest
in things that go into our medications and how quickly
we're put on certain medications, and just an interest in
focusing more on holistic measures to address some of these
(04:03):
health crisises, not just the pharmaceutical or ama focus on health.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Talk about the food.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
First, you get onto a grocery store, endless aisles, top
to bottom shelves, just hundreds of products, all junk.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
People. There's obviously an.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Addictive quality that the food companies have created in all
the especially the snack foods, you know, the chips and
the pretzels, and the cookies and the cakes. I mean,
it's just incredible. And I think what people look like
when I was a kid compared to what they look
like now. And I didn't realize this was going on.
(04:45):
My wife would tell me this, and I eventually realized
she was right that the ingredients that the food companies
put in this stuff is addictive and people lose control
of their diet. Now, what can be done against the
food companies?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, So there's a couple of conversations around that. One
is and your listeners will likely know that the food
pyramid and the dietary guidelines. But what a lot of
people don't understand is those dietary guidelines that you know,
one year we love salt, one year we hate salts.
You know, we have these wildly varying conversations about what's
(05:23):
good for you. Those are actually up for to be
relooked at this year. And so what folks need to
understand is those dietary guidelines actually go into the way
that schools buy their school lunches, and so that is
a significant opportunity to really reshape how many of America's
(05:44):
youth get fed through the public school system by shaping
the way that AHHS views the dietary guidelines and makes
determinations about what would make Americans and especially use healthier.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Again, well, what changes should there be?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Like I said, everybody's always told, you know, eat fruits
and vegetables, don't eat the junk food that's packaged what
do they call the ultra processed food. It's like, but yeah,
I'm Michelle Obama tried this a few years ago, right,
serving vegetables to kids, and they.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Threw them all out.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, So I think there's two conversations. One there is
obviously making sure that things like, you know, the way
we classify meat. You know, many people don't understand is
that we actually import meat into the United States, let
it stay here, and then because of that for after
a certain time period, it can be classified as American meat.
(06:40):
There are other things that get put into get put into,
you know, all of these packaged foods that we know
are addictive, that we know are detrimental, that we've just
never been able to challenge from a public health standpoint.
So to me, having a disruptor like Robert F. Kennedy,
who isn't a traditional Republican, isn't a really a traditional Democrat,
(07:04):
but spans those ideological lines give him the ability, under
a President Trump, to really take on the industrial complex
around food and the health industries.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now, the pharaceutical industry. You mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Everybody who watches television sees endless commercials for medications that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Handle diseases that nobody's ever heard of. But I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm astonished at all the different pills that are sold
on television. I'm astonished at how many antidepressants everybody takes
in America, and on and on and on. I mean,
ever since they legalized television commercials, it seems that everybody
is on twelve different prescriptions at the same time. And
what can Kennedy do about that?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, I think that's going to be a big conversation
because the United States is actually one of the few
countries in the world that allows direct to consumer marketing
for prescription drugs. So a you have that, and then
do you have the empowerment of the patient to go
in to their provider and say, Hey, I want that
(08:18):
drug that I saw on TV. And then if I'm
a provider and I don't give you that drug, then
I get a negative rating, and then that inpects my
ability to you know, see other patients, and so like,
there are all of these perverse incentives in healthcare that
I think are significant opportunities to be disrupted. Let alone
(08:40):
the conversations about you know, like with COVID nineteen in particular,
all the money that went into making sure that doctors
who met certain thresholds received bonuses. And so that's not
just a COVID nineteen conversation from a vaccine perspective. There
are other drugs that fall into that model too, where
you have doctors being incentivized to put folks on certain
(09:05):
prescription drugs and they get bonuses when they hit certain threshold.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
A few years ago, there was that mini series on
Hulu I think called Dope Sic and it was a
dramatized version of what happened in the nineteen nineties when
the pharmaceutical companies got a significant percentage of America hooked
and opioids, and the rewards that went to the doctors
for providing the prescriptions, the conferences, the travel, the pretty
girls who come in with all the samples with those drugs,
(09:35):
until the doctors themselves were getting hooked. I remember Michael
Keaton was in it. What I mean that made it
seem like the drug industry is quite corrupt, is it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know? I don't think i'd want to make a
broad brush statement about the drug industry as a whole,
because there are necessary and life saving medications out there.
But when it comes to some of these drugs being
pushed that are new onto the market and then suddenly
everyone's taking them and there's not a lot of scientific
(10:07):
evidence long term about their impacts as a whole, I
think that's very difficult to you know, for a place
to put Americans into, especially when you know, again we're
one of the few countries that allows for that direct
to consumer marketing. So to me, while I don't want
to broad brush the entire industry, I do think that
(10:28):
serious reforms need to happen that really protect the American
patient and consumer from really just jumping onto the next
fad after next fad where we don't really know the
long term health outcomes.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
David, thank you for coming on. David Mannsdorffer and former
senior executive and Deputy Assistant Secretary of HHAs thanks very much,
and he was talking about RFK taking over the Health
and Human Services Department got officially approved and sworn in today.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Hey, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I don't know if this is depressing, frightening, or both.
Not to scare you, but Emerson College has done a
poll on who people would vote for on the Democratic side.
For Governor Kamala Harris got fifty seven percent of the vote.
(11:34):
Fifty seven percent of Democrats in California would go for
Kamala Harris. Let's pause for a moment of silence. Okay,
this can't be after all that's happened, after all the
things that have gone haywire in the state. Eight years
(11:57):
of Newsom, eight years of Jerry Brown, that's sixteen years
of progressive politics, and then it could be eight years
of Kamala.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Fifty seven percent. This really upset me.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Second place is missus potato head Katie Porter at nine percent.
Third place is via Gosa, and then fourth place is
the Lieutenant governor, Elany Conolacus.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So who would you rather have via ra Gosa or
Harris via ra Gosa? And I answered that quickly, did
not Yes, you did? But why is that the choice?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Unfortunately two thirds of the state is never going to
vote for a Republican and it's nearly impossible for an
independent to run the way things are structured, And.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So we're left with what is wrong with voters here?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Why would you want to follow up eight years of
Gavin Newsom with with Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Have you seen what happened in Washington the last four years?
Is anyone paying attention?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Did you see the progressives that burned down the palisades?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
On the other.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Side is Chad Bianco, the Riverside County sheriff, and he's
going to run for governor in twenty twenty six. We've
had him on a number of times and we'll have
him one again soon. So he's well, I hope. You know,
the Republicans run a lot of bad candidates in recent years.
(13:40):
Just you know, they might be nice guys, but they
were bad candidates. And Bionco at least has a lot
of fierceness in him. You know, he's got a personality,
he's got fees very good. At all you have to
do is say the obvious of what goes on in California,
And I would think anybody with half a brain would say,
we need to change here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And I like that he's a sheriff.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, we've ended up with tons of criminals, tons
of homelessness, extremely high taxes, billions of dollars of waste,
the high speed rail debacle, the climate change nonsense. Ough,
and then you know that the Progressives don't spend money
on things like the fire department. Oh, because the Progressives
(14:30):
remember the Holy Trinity. They worship homeless people, criminals, and
illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What do you think Kamala Harris is gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
She created this huge mess that Trump is trying to
clean up. I mean, you hear all the spending stories
that Musk and Trump are finding every day, Well it
was her and Biden. So now we're going to bring
that to California. I mean, she's way worse than Newsome.
I mean, Newsom looks like a Rhodes scholar next to
(14:59):
Kamalain Harris. I just can't. This is can't right, it can't.
I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Where are you going? Oh? I'm going going over this?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, Tama Harris wins. I think finally it's exit bag time.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well wouldn't it be good? Wouldn't it be good for business?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't know if I can't take it though. That's
the sound you're gonna hear on election night, all right
when we come back. Oh yeah, she was. The immigrations
are right, Well, we've got all kinds of immigration news
(15:46):
as Tom Holman and Trump try to clean up.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That massive mess. Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The you know that there there are leakers apparently within
the FBI, Homan Suspects, or ice, who are giving news
organization's advanced information on the raids. Now there's immigrant rights
activists who want to take advantage of this advanced this
advanced information and disrupt the ICE raids here in California.
(16:14):
Will give you details on that coming up, along with
all kinds of immigration news.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Catla Harris fifty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Boys line is coming back Friday. Well that's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Something about this week really really blew by fast eight
seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty
six or use a talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
This story just came out twenty minutes ago. I had
given you a little tease before Debra's news that we
are going to discuss the illegal the leaks coming from
(16:54):
the FBI that's thwarting some of ICE's attempts to do
raids to arrest the legal aliens, and how media outlets
are publicizing the leaks. Well, this is good news. This
is actually amazing. The number of illegal border crossings are
(17:18):
at lows not seen since nineteen sixty eight. It's been
almost sixty years. In February, there's only been three hundred
and fifty nine illegal aliens a day that have been
caught crossing the border. You remember at times during the
Biden administration, it was over ten thousand a day. Now
(17:43):
it's down to three hundred and fifty nine a day.
This is the lowest monthly border crossings if it keeps
up at this level, lowest since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's what did what did Trump do? And what did
it cost? This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
People have to rethink this Kamala Harris idea for governor
because if you're just tuning in, she gets fifty seven
percent of the vote from Democrats. How much incompetence does
the lady have to show before you say, hey, maybe
somebody else. I mean, there was a list of about
(18:24):
ten candidates and she got fifty seven. Now, granted most
people don't know the names of any of the other
ten candidates, but outside of he where goes? But honest
to God, went from ten thousand a day to three
hundred and fifty nine. And Trump did it just like
that with the existing staff, right he took over, and
(18:45):
they haven't had a chance to hire anybody new with
the existing money is available, and without you know, they've
they've arrested a certain number every day. But these are
the crossings. All you have to do is say no
more and we're going to arrest you and deport you.
That's all you had to do. But they knew this
at the Biden administration. The Biden administration was taken over
(19:08):
by these wacky progressives who wanted to create mayhem in
the country.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
They must must have.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
They're leftists who did not believe that we're entitled to
have a free, capitalist, to capitalistic society. That America is evil,
it's it's it's racist and sexist, to homophobic and the
xenophobic and this and that, and so we have to
all be punished. And so they sent in ten million
illegal aliens and sent them, you know, and then once
(19:37):
Greg Abbott started sending them to the big cities, then
all hell broke loose.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Now let me go on, Well, let's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See if that number holds three fifty nine a day. Now,
these these progressive organizations, and they're really anarchists. They LA
Times has found out that they are planning to disrupt raids.
There's some whack job named Ron Gochez, spokeshole for a
(20:06):
Union del Barrio. They have built sixty organizations, a coalition
to disrupt illegal alien arrests. Now right now they're going
after criminals. This is what's galling about it. It's criminals,
it's felons, it's violent people, it's really bad people who
hurt innocent people, including other illegal aliens, not to mention Americans.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And this is what I'm saying about.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
This is destructive anarchists who want to just upend our
daily life. But you know, Biden crowd was fully on
board with them. They're calling themselves the Community Self Defense Coalition.
Now you have left wing leakers inside the FBI apparently
(20:55):
or at ICE. They're sending out in for where the
raids are going to happen, and then left wing media
outlets like the news station up in San Francisco's KCBS,
they were giving out addresses of whether the raids were
going to happen in San Francisco, including the uh making
(21:16):
models and color of the cars that were going to
be used. Now what's going to happen is if the
bad guys are tipped off, these are armed felons, they're
going to shoot to death the ICE agents or other
other law enforcement that's been recruited to do this. So
(21:38):
these these these radio anchors on a Sunday morning, these
progressive nuts that have infiltrated the news station up in
San Francisco are going to lead to these agents getting killed.
Of course they They've leaked information to the La Times
as well, not as specific. The thing is, these raids
(22:01):
have been carried out impeccably so far. You can't criticize
Nobody rational would criticize going after illegal alien criminals. In fact,
eighty three percent of the country supports going after illegal
alien criminals. Only ten percent of the countries against it. However,
that ten percent is embedded in the government and apparently
(22:25):
at the FBI, and apparently obviously in the media outlets.
You know, there were media outlets in Aurora, Colorado that
gave a heads up to the trendy Aragua gang who've
actually been killing people in America. This is what works
for your local television, radio and newspapers. This is the
(22:49):
kind of people that work far out whack job progressives.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
ICE has average more than nine hundred daily arrests as
of the last week of January, which is two and
a half times more than.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Biden's final year in office.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Department of Homeland Security said in the first week and
deported seventy three hundred people, which if it continues at
this pace would be three hundred and fifty thousand in
a year. Of course, Trump says that's not nearly enough,
and he's putting a lot of pressure on ICE. I
think he actually might have devoted some ICE people because
(23:34):
he's not happy with the speed of this. Of course,
they're getting undermined by people within the Trump government, like
at the FBI, They're getting undermined by the news media.
This is such a hateful crowd, these progressives. And Kamala
Harrison was a part of all this. She enabled all this.
(23:56):
She'd lied about the border constantly. She was absolutely a
doue nothing when it came to being the borders are.
That was totally phony theater. So, of course fifty seven
percent of the Democrats in the state want to make
our governor because that's going to make life better. We
got we've got more to come. Here's something we'll talk
(24:20):
about next.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
The UH may be surprised at this. You would think that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
The federal government is going to be constantly testing the
soil after the toxic remains are cleaned up, and that
they're going to dig deep and make sure that there
isn't toxicity, you know, way below the surface that's not true.
They're going to do a little bit of testing and
clean up a little bit of soil and then they're
(24:48):
out of here. Hard to believe, but we'll talk about
it coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
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Speaker 1 (24:59):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Coming up in just minutes. You can follow us on
social media. Follow us already at John Cobelt Radio at
John Cobelt Radio. It's worth it. This just came within
the last hour. This is just galling. I mean it's galling.
These people are out of their minds. According to RedState
(25:23):
dot Com Jennifer Vanlaar, as the writer, the LAPD Police
Commissioner is directing the department to coach illegal aliens how
to evade ice. This is LAPD Police Commissioner. I was
just telling you how there are people in the FBI
and maybe an ICE who are linking information about raids
(25:43):
and thwarting the raids, and then there are these progressive
news outlets that are publicizing the raids right down to
the street and the color and make a model of
the cars that are being used.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Well.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
According to Jennifer Van laur.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
An activist member of the Los Angeles Board of Police commissioners,
as well as LAPD personnel and resources are being used
to conduct seminars entitled know your Rights and provide these
illegal aliens red cards with those rights spelled out in English,
Spanish and other languages. Now remember at the moment Trump
(26:24):
Tom Holman is going after illegal alien criminals. Also people
who applied for asylum and the judges said no and
issued a deportation notice, and those deportation notices were resisted.
The commissioner is the LAPD Board Commissioner, Lou Calanche, and
(26:45):
he did this last week during a meeting, and then
there were other LAPD personnel who were carrying out the
red cards. So now you have an LAPD commissioner actively
publicly trying to get trying to thwart ice raids here
in Los Angeles. We will have more on this tomorrow.
(27:05):
Conway and Thompson. Yeah, I'm confused.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Tuesday, I had to do it to Amorial service on Tuesday,
so I came in out. I said, you want me
to come in on you another day? And I said, yeah,
please come in on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Yeah. Sorry, Well, I mean guy had a good life,
was an older man. Oh he was. It was like
he'd reached his expiration day. I baby, no, no, no,
Now you're bumming me out.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Okay, you have to justify his death to Yeah. Yeah,
it's a bum bum thing to do.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Man, it was. It was still set.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Rick Crusso's coming on with us. Good.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, is that true? That's right?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He says that once a week though, and shoves Russa.
I have yet to be here to day Carusso called.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Hey, you know, how come you know, when the cops
say they're not going to do the the ice raids,
how come the cops don't go out to Santa Anita
and shoe away all the PEDA people too?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Are there PEDA people at in a while?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
On a still?
Speaker 7 (28:02):
You know, at Santa Anita two years ago, I was
at Breeders' Cup, big huge day out there Friday and Saturday, November,
and there were sixty five thousand people inside Santa Anita.
There were nine people from PETA outside protesting. All the stations,
all the new stations talked to the nine people, didn't
talk once anybody inside.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I know. That's the part of the Sikoh progressive movement.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Now, Mark, you know those Shiites.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Then we got a lot of rain talking. Mark's a member.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Oh yeah, I'm a car you know, I'm a founding member. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
They've gone to a conservative for me.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And then we got Dean Sharp coming on today. But
the big story is the rain. You know, it just
started unbelievably a downpour right here in Burbank.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
It is biblical range ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's going to be a fun ride home.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Connway Burley made it in look at.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Emergency alert warnings on all the time. Yeah, there you go,
flash flood warning.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
That means that there's flash flooding going on right now
in warning.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Is that right? Oh yeah, we did just ran that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I didn't listen to it fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah, you're busy, corruption.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'll probably drive right into the flood. Now we'll get you.
Keep everybody drive all right, Conway think Thompson. It's a
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