February 25, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (02/25) - Steve Soboroff has been complaining about being tricked into leading the recovery efforts from the fires. Where was LA City Council President Marqueece Harris-Dawson the last 6 weeks since he was the acting mayor at the time of Mayor Bass being out of the country when the fires broke out? Teenagers are interacting more and more with chatbots. Gov. Newsom wants cities and counties held accountable for taking care of their homeless problems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
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from one until four o'clock and then after four o'clock
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This is really turned into a pathetic soap opera. All
the characters involved in city government who were responsible for
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the fire or who are supposed to be responsible for
the alleged recovery, and they are squabbling like a bunch
of school children. And I tell you one of the biggest,
one of the biggest disappointments is this guy, Steve Soberoff,
Holy mackerel. He's seventy seven years old. And I emphasize
his age because usually you've matured somewhat and you have
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a lot of experience and you know how the world
really works. And in his case, he's got a buttload
of money, right, so life is good no matter what happens.
And he was Karen bass pick to oversee the recovery.
Later on we find out he was given five hundred
thousand dollars, or at least that was the offer to
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be paid from some mystery philanthropic nonprofit five hundred thousand dollars.
Then we found out he was only gonna work for
ninety days, so three months and five hundred thousand dollars,
and then well, what is it is he? What's he
doing anyway, because right now you just mostly have the
federal government scraping up debris, putting it into you know,
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with payloaders, and dumping it into trucks and carrying it
out of town. I mean, that's all you can do.
You collect all the debris that didn't burn completely, and
then you start scraping up three inches of soil to
get a lot of the contaminants out. So I don't
know exactly what he's overseeing. And when people found out
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he was getting five hundred thousand dollars, which they did
not admit to at the beginning, you see, they covered
that up and they still this day covered up who
was supposed to pay for it. So the whole thing
is starting to smell. And then you know, we had
a private tape that we played on the air that
sober Off gave to wealthy guys, wealthy Hollywood guys agents,
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giving them information that he didn't share with the rest
of the public, like don't drink the water no matter
what the DWP says, don't trust it, don't let your
kids drink it, don't bathe your baby in it, that
kind of stuff, and some real estate advice, you know,
hold on for a year, don't sell now, because a
year from now or after all the government money pours in,
you'll get triple the offer. Again not sharing that with
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the rest of the public. Now, he goes over to
Harvard Westlake, where all his kids went to school, from
what I understand from this story, and he spoke before
an alumni group at Harvard Westlake, and somebody recorded him
there and he starts bitching about the elephant in the room,
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which was the five hundred thousand dollars for ninety days work.
And he at Harvard Westlake, he said he found himself
at a point where he had no money and no
contract to do the work. So then I found out
that they really didn't have the money. And then I
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found out that I really did have the personal bills.
I don't know what that means. And there was one
of two things to do, go public and quit and
say I was lied to. Here's my emails, here's my texts,
here's all this blape, he told the group, or tell
them I'll do it for free and hope it comes
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around later on. Now, he really did not want to
do any recovery work unless he was being paid a
half a million dollars for ninety days, which I kind
of suspected. I got the vibe from this guy that
when he had to give up the money because Bass
had so much criticism and everybody was so embarrassed, that
his heart wouldn't be in it, Like he wasn't doing
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it to rebuild the palisades. I don't think he particularly
cares he was doing it, because, hey, that's five hundred
thousand dollars for ninety days work. How many times does
that happen in your life? If I think about that,
how many times have you been offered five hundred thousand
dollars for ninety days work? Now these are exact quotes
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because it's off for recording, and then the Times writes
by Monday, sober Off changed course, telling the Times he
did not think that the mayor had lied or intentionally
misled him. That was not what I feel and not
what I meant. Well, what you said is should I
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go public and quit and say I was lied to.
Here's my emails, here's my text, here's all this bleep.
In other words, I have the evidence that they had
promised me many days work for five hundred thousand dollars.
I love the phrase sober off is walking back those comments.
What do you mean walk back comments? You said it,
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you meant it when you said it, you thought you
were talking privately and you didn't know you were being recorded.
I would so much love a guy who would say, yeah,
I did say that. Yeah, that's how I felt. I
meant it. I wanted the money. I took it for
the money. He's complaining he wanted the money because he
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was passing on He's a I guess a consultant of
some kind, and he was passing up other work, private
sector work that paid well. But it's every day there's something,
and meantime, you know, we're Caruso. He's got a huge
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team of business leaders and entertainment people and they're actually
going to be putting up like a hundred modular homes
for one hundred people who are are most in need
and work from there. And there's all kinds of plans
to lay down, to lay down infrastructure such as modern
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water pipes, not a nineteen forty two version of what
Los Angeles had for a water system, but maybe a
twenty twenty five version. And also burying the trans electrical
transmission lines, which has to be done everywhere all over
the state. That's a must every driving to a town.
And we have these in our neighborhood. It looks so antiquated,
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these old wooden poles with all these wires coming out,
some of the thick black wires. They have these metal containers.
They look like gigantic garbage cans on top of the poles.
It's like, my god, this really like I know, my
neighborhood was first developed in the nineteen forties and we
still have the original electrical equipment. It looks like it's
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from the nineteen forties and all kinds of wires criss
crossing all over the place, and everybody's trees are tangled
up in them. You know, people don't People either don't
trim their trees or the city doesn't trim the trees
often enough.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Sounds like you're talking about my neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, all cities that way and don't. Wouldn't electrical poles
look ridiculously antiquated.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, I mean again, we've talked about it. I don't
understand why everything is not underground.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Because they don't want to spend the money. I know
they want to keep the money for profits.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, so then when houses burned down, Oh but still
then they're still going to pass the costs on to us.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We wouldn't have half these fires if the wires were underground.
That's what pisses me off. When all these left wing
jackass jackasses. I'd be careful.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You do you need to find your edit?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I know, I know it's jammed. Yeah, oh it's global warming.
It's like, shut up. Why didn't you, as as a governor,
a mayor council person, get in the twenty first century
and sign a deal and have all the electric wires
buried underground? All right, that's what modern cities do. Electrical
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wires are buried underground. Sober Off Current at the Times
repeatedly pointed out he gave up lucrative consulting work to
take on this role, and he gave an interview a
few days ago saying he'd always assumed he would be
paid if I was a billionaire or a one hundred
millionaire or a twenty millionaire or whatever. I probably would
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have done this for free from the beginning, but I wasn't.
I'm not, and I didn't, and I had to give
up things that were going to be helpful to me.
He's actually pleading poor. And the same story is that
he sent five kids to Harvard Westling.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah you know how expensive that school is?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, you know, yeah, we didn't go there. But now
it's sixty thousand dollars according to the Times, sixty thousand
dollars per per kit, per kid, per year, per kid. Yeah.
Soberoff said Bass called him on February eighth when the
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news broke about his half million dollars, and Bass asked
him if he could make adjustments to his salary, and
he thinks the mayor did so after learning that the
Foundations that were expected to cover his salary were now
looks like backing out. Soberoff said he was told by
someone in the mayor's office that the Foundations were resisting
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the idea of giving money to his salary. His understanding
was the Foundations had been unaware what the money would
be used for and found the specifics to be unacceptable.
So what kind of scam was pulling on these foundations,
and we still don't know what the foundations were. But
he's telling she's telling sober Off, don't worry. It's not
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not tax money. The foundations are donating money what to
some mayor's firefund, and she's not saying specifically where it's
going to go. She didn't say, well, it's to pay
Steve sober Off a half million dollars, who, by the way,
is really rich. Okay, I mean he helped get the
the Staples Center constructed. He also developed Applia del Rey District.
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So the foundations didn't know that half million dollars, half million,
half million dollars of their money was going to go
to Steve sober Off. Sober Off said he never directly
asked Basque if it was true that the city did
not have the philanthropic funding to pay him. He called
the mayor back and offered to work for free, but
only after concluding that the city lacked the funds. Well,
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of course, the city its self lacked the funds. The
city is broke. That's not discussed, but trust me, it's
completely broke. It doesn't know how to pay its bills
because they've blown way too much money on raises for
all the riffraff city employees, oh excuse me, devoted public servants,
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and not to mention over a billion dollars for the
vagrants and drug addicts. More coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So we're talking about this Steve Soberoff, the Big Savior,
who was complaining at a Harvard Westlake alumni meeting that
he feels lied to by Karen Bass because the five
hundred thousand dollars was pulled back for the ninety days
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of work that he's supposed to do to start the
recovery process. And I predicted this. I told you when
they took away the half million dollars, his heart wasn't
going to be in it. And it wasn't. Can you
imagine he's actually doing this publicly. Somebody recorded him at
this meeting, and now he's trying to say, well, I
didn't really mean that. That's not what I intended to say.
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I mean, it's on tape, buddy. Just admitute. You're pissed,
and I understand you thought you had a sweet deal
ninety days of work. You look like a hero. Mostly
I saw him standing next to Karen Bass providing some
kind of political secret service protection because everybody hates it
right now, and so he wanted to stand up and
be the be the hard driving, competent adult with the
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big booming voice to show that he's in charge. And
turned out he was just a mercenary. It's like, yeah, okay,
I'll play this role for ninety days. Give me a
half million. And the plan falls through when the foundations,
the philanthropic nonprofits found out they were giving Steve sober
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Off a half million dollars and they said, what the bleep?
Nobody told us. So Karen Bass, if you read between
the lines, as she likes to say, I guess didn't
tell these organizations that the money that was going to
go to a millionaire some kind of fire aid, maybe
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fire aid for millionaires. Then here's another character who I've
been asking about this guy for weeks and he actually
popped up into the news for exactly five seconds. Karen Bass,
since she was in Africa, was not the mayor technically
when the fires broke out, it was the acting mayor.
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LA City Council President Marquise Harris Dawson. Is that Marquise
or Marquise. I've heard Marquise, where's that coming from? Marquise
Harris Dawson, And so he was technically in charge, but
I have not seen any explanation of his role. Did
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he call Kristin Crowley? Did Crowley call him? Was he
part of a meeting because of Bass's body clock is
upside down in Africa and Ghana. Well, at least Marquis
is in town here in the same time zone, and
things are happening in real time in front of his face.
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So what did he do? What decisions did he make?
Was he aware of the thousand firefighters being sent home,
the forty engines being kept in the garage? Was he
aware of any of that, that the hillsides were not
manned with fire trucks and firefighters as the wind started
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blowing on January seventh, Well, suddenly he's popped up to
defend Karen Bass against the criticism over here, hiring Kristin
Crowley play this little clip. The people of Los Angeles
elected the mayor to make these calls, and I'm the supporter.
We elected the mayor to be in Los Angeles when
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the worst fire in the history of the city breaks out,
We didn't elect the mayor to fly to Africa to
arrange a consulate for the nation of Ghana. And we
found that out yesterday courtesy to some leaked audio tape
involving one of Bass's aides, international relations expert what was
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his name, Boz's last name, Alexander Bose. Yeah, Alexander Bose
was patiently explaining to an undercover reporter that you know,
this is a very important strategic trip because we want
to get all these African consulates in Los Angeles. It's like, oh, sure,
that's what you were elected for. No, we didn't. We
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didn't elect her to make a decision like this when
it was when she has not copped to her role.
If you fire Crowley, Bass has got to go too.
Bass is way more responsible because she's in charge. She's
in charge of Crowley, and she should have called Crowley
and she should have had meetings and plans and be
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part of the extensive negotiations on how we're gonna deal
with the fire, not trying to get a consulate from
Ghana established. So where was Marquise Harris Dawson if basses
out in Africa, where is he? What did he do?
What time did he go to bed on the night
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of January sixth, because by then even Bass put out
the warning, did he was he aware of the warning?
It's weird that he stayed quiet for six weeks and
he's only popped off now after Bass has fired, Mark
fired Crowley And as if people don't have enough trouble,
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We'll get to this later on. Do you know that
there are tow truck bandits targeting LA fire victims and
during during the days after the fire, towing their cars randomly.
You are not gonna believe. How did this go on?
And some of these guys had been caught before doing this,
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but I guess they didn't go to jail for very long.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
John Cobelts Show camp I AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. What what you're shaking your head? Yeah,
shaking your head and disapprove.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I do that every day.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you you know what chatbots are?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, you ever talked to one? No? I don't mean
like those customer service chats bots?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, because I do that. I do and means I
was so excited today. I thought I had I had.
I thought I had a chat bot and it was
a real person. When I did chat I had.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
A real person. Yes, oh man must be the last.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Seriously, I couldn't believe it because I was asking questions.
I knew it was. It was definitely a person. It
wasn't a bot.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Eddie chatbots I've dealt with. Take you in circles.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh, then I just deleted.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's supposed to be artificial intelligence. These are This is
like artificial stupidity.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They don't answer questions correctly, and they don't progress whatever
you're trying to do. If I'm trying to buy something,
I can't I can't buy it. I I questions because
something is screwed up. It just goes around and around
in circles. It's terrible. All my experiences with these these
stupid chat pots have been a complete waste of time.
And you're talking to people on the phone or a
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waste of time too because it's often somebody ten thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Away when they read a script that drives me insane,
and I have to tell them to stop. You do
to stop reading the script, put the paper down and
just talk to me.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They'll pause, and then they'll go back to reading the script.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And they also repeat what I'm so sorry, missus Mark,
I'm so sorry that you've had such a bad you
know whatever, and then they repeat it. I'm like, just
don't be sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I tell them, you're not sorry. Why would you be sorry?
You didn't because it's ridiculous the way companies treat people,
and now they want to fire these poor people overseas
and replace them with these idiot checkpots who are it
ain't better. They companies do not want to service their customers.
They just hope you get frustrated and give up and
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go away, which that's the whole person. Well I've done too,
but I remember I boycott companies for years after they've
displeased me. Not that they care, because there's too many
stupid people in the world who keep going Yeah, that's
right when I get displeased. Now, this, though, is weird.
And what I was going to ask you, is he
ever had a checkpot that you developed a relationship with? What?
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Of course not? Oh, I don't know. You can get lonely.
La Times had this story today by Queenie Wong. A
growing number of teenagers are turning to AI chatbots for
advice and emotional support. It's called character dot ai. It's
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a new startup and it's it's a tech company that
creates these these fake people online that teenagers are getting
emotionally involved with. When her autistic teens suddenly became angry, depressed,
and violent, the mother search for answers on the phone
found her son had been exchanging messages with chatbots on
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character dot ai. It's an artificial intelligence app that allows
users to create and interact with virtual characters that mimic celebrities,
historical figures, or anyone else their imagination conjures. You can
make up fake girlfriends, fake boyfriends, fake fake anything.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What happens when you want to meet.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, that's why these are cool, is they? I know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm just saying, if you, you know, if you're that
wacky and you develop a relationship and then you think
that this chatbot is real, right, and then you want
to take it to the next level.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I don't know what that would be. Meet me in
the park, right, and then nobody shows you're waiting for
the chatbot. It's it it They think that like this
really has an effect on some kids because actually they
start treating the chatbot character as if it is real. Yeah,
and they become emotionally involved. And so parents are now
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suing this company, the parent company's character technologies in Menlo,
claiming the chatbots cause their children to hurt themselves and others.
I guess because the AI starts working on its own,
and I guess you can whip the kids into like
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some kind of an emotional state where they start acting out.
There's a lot of these Meta and Google have their
own chatbots, so do Snapchat. The company racked up almost
two million installations in the first week. By December, twenty
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seven million people were using the app. Twenty seven million
people are talking to fake bot characters. Listen to this.
Users spend more than ninety minutes with the bots each day.
Oh no, ninety minutes they talked to this fake thing
on their phone.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now you do what the verry's sad.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What are they going to do when they well, you know,
you see what what what shows up in the workplace? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
Imagine dating these people whose entire emotional development has been
talking to a bot on the phone. Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean, I wonder if these people realize that these
people aren't real. I mean, do they realize that?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Or do they? I mean, I think after a while they.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The lines are blurred, right they they they they don't No.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Because because the the I mentioned that, the the chetbot
could emotionally manipulate the person, and you start triggering chemical reactions, right,
feelings of comfort, feelings of of just I guess, emotions,
all the positive emotions that come with a real relationship
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or real romance or a real friendship. It starts saying
the things and acting in a way that will trigger
those happy chemicals in your brain. And after a while,
I mean, look how people get involved in television shows
and movies. I've always been kind of fascinated by that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I yell at the TV. I do, I get, I
get very uh all right now think about that. But
I know, but I know on a deep level that
it's all but in.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The moment, in the moment, you're lost in the characters. Yes,
you need to think that's weird. See, I always catch myself.
I can't really enjoy fictional stuff because I always catch
myself getting caught up. It's like, wait a second, they're
all reading a script.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know, they've got cameras and laughs at me because
I and I know, let me just say this, John,
I know that it's not reality. I just I get so,
you know, and then I start thinking, what if this
was real? That's how my brain works.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I know it's not. But then one step away.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
From well, no, I'm not love with the chat bot.
I'm going to tell you that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
By December, a total of more than twenty seven million
people were using this particular bot one hundred and sixteen
percent increase. It is valued at a billion dollars and
the you know how they make money a ten dollars
monthly subscription fee, so the bot will respond more quickly
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and you get early access to new features. So if
you don't pay the ten dollars, the bot just sits there.
It's like, hey, you're listening to me. Hey, I said something,
give me ten dollars. All right, give you ten dollars.
Now you get the quick answer. Oh that's sick. That's
really sick. There was a chatbot on Snapchat that provided
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a researcher posing as a thirteen year old. Okay, the
researcher pretended they were thirteen years old, and this Snapchat
bot was giving them advice about how to have sex
with an older man. Oh no. And Meta's Instagram allows
you to create AI characters. You can create sexually suggestive
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AI bots that'll talk to you as if they're minors,
so you can start talking. You could start engaging in
sex talk with fake underage bots on Instagram. Well, I
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guess they'll start talking dirty to you.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's another ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Where you could call one of those sex lives where
you get like really overweight women.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
How do you know they're overweight? You just listen to
their voice.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
They're always they always are in the movies. Are more
coming up?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
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Speaker 1 (27:00):
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in the three o'clock hour. What am I doing at
two o'clock? Oh right, that's a big deal. I just
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can't find it in front of me. Freddy Escobar is
the head of the Firefighters Union United Firefighters in Los Angeles.
I think it's called and we've had him on before
and they are supporting Christian Crowley very publicly, and we
will have him on just after two o'clock, all right,
Frey Escobar, And we've got other stuff connected to the
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Crowley firing. A lot of people, I tell you a
lot of people are probably angry with Karen Bass, even
if they think Crowley should have been fired, because Bass
continue news for what the seventh straight week, not to
take any responsibility at all, not to explain why she
did what she did, and now that other secret tapes
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are coming out about why she was in Africa, there
needs to be a real thorough grilling of this Karen Bass,
because I don't I don't find her to be honest.
I don't find her to be uh, what's the word transparent?
Some funny business going on trying to get a consulate
from Ghana after she was told that that we had
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extremely dangerous, deadly fire conditions. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what that deal is about. I just get,
you know, I get a vibration, I get a vibe
inside of me.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, how does that feel?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Huh? Actually good? Sometimes depends where the vibe is. But yeah,
if I feel that little little twinge. Gavin Knewsome, this
is pretty this is pretty slick. You know, he lost
track of twenty four billion dollars at homeless money and
he admits this, and this is just like Bass not
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being here for the fire and then saying that, well,
nobody told me that there was going to be a fire,
I wasn't aware of the warnings, right, And she says
that it's news for a day or two and then
she just goes on as if it didn't happen. Newsom
does the same thing a few months ago. He had
to admit they lost track of twenty four billion dollars
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in homeless money that the state gave to various cities
and counties and fake criminal nonprofits. Now he's stepping forward
with a way to make sure that cities and counties
are held accountable. So he's got almost a billion dollars
in funding so that towns can clean up encampments and
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fight homelessness, Like, like, how do you fight homelessness if
you punch out some homeless people. The vast majority of
the money is UH seven hundred and sixty million dollars
and it can be spent on permanent and interim housing,
outreach services, and other efforts. He's big on housing. He
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wants to hold accountable these towns that haven't built enough housing.
This is the back door way to get apartment buildings
in residential areas, single family zoned residential areas. They are
fanatics in Sacramento at forcing low income apartment buildings into
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middle class and upper middle class neighborhoods. That's what he's
talking about, but he dresses it up as homeless aid.
The people who are out in the streets and you
see them, the drug addicts, the mental patients, the drunks.
Giving them housing isn't going to change any thing. Their
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problem is their mental health. They're extremely mentally ill and
they have an extreme drug addiction, and they're gonna keep
living in the streets. And believe me, nobody and a
single family residential suburban neighborhood wants any of these characters
in their neighborhood. And that I'm warning you if you
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hear about this in your town, that your town has
accepted this money in order to fight homelessness. It's about
the city building these kinds of multi unit apartments and
they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna put in a lot
of undesirable people into your neighborhood. And Newston is pulling
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every lever he can. They take towns to court, they're
trying to find uh find them. It's a lot of
extreme pressure. But because he's basically a dishonest guy for
public consumption, he's dressing this up as homelessness funding and
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he's going to hold them accountable. Well, the accountability is
if you don't build the homeless housing in the single
family residential neighborhoods, then he's going to cut off the money.
It's not going to go to get the vagrants, the
drug addicts, and the mental patients off the streets and
off out of the parks and all that. No, it's
(32:35):
about forcing this low income housing into the system. There's
no connection between this kind of housing and why there's
homeless people laying all over your parks and building this
housing is not going to get the drug addicts and
mental patients out of the parks. They're not interested in housing.
(32:55):
But it's really slick and he's trying to confuse the
it's classic news, so beware this is gonna this fight
is because I just read the other day it was
a series of stories about how they passed all these
laws in Sacramento, you know, to force apartments into single
family neighborhoods, and for many different reasons, it hasn't happened.
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The law has been a failure. It's been kind of
embarrassing because this was the master plan. And so you're
going to see redoubled efforts here and you're going to
see a lot of dishonesty, a lot of slight of hand.
All Right, we come back. We're going to talk to
Freddy Escobar, head of the Firefighters Union, and they're in
support of Kristin Crowley and they're upset with Bass firing Crowley,
(33:43):
and we have more fire related news regarding Crowley in Bass.
There's a lot of good stuff. Debor Mark live in
the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
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This is really turned into a pathetic soap opera. All
the characters involved in city government who were responsible for
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the fire or who are supposed to be responsible for
the alleged recovery, and they are squabbling like a bunch
of school children. And I tell you one of the biggest,
one of the biggest disappointments is this guy, Steve Soberoff,
Holy mackerel. He's seventy seven years old. And I emphasize
his age because usually you've matured somewhat and you have
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a lot of experience and you know how the world
really works. And in his case, he's got a buttload
of money, right, so life is good no matter what happens.
And he was Karen bass pick to oversee the recovery.
Later on we find out he was given five hundred
thousand dollars, or at least that was the offer to
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be paid from some mystery philanthropic nonprofit five hundred thousand dollars.
Then we found out he was only gonna work for
ninety days, so three months and five hundred thousand dollars,
and then well, what is it is he? What's he
doing anyway, because right now you just mostly have the
federal government scraping up debris, putting it into you know,
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with payloaders, and dumping it into trucks and carrying it
out of town. I mean, that's all you can do.
You collect all the debris that didn't burn completely, and
then you start scraping up three inches of soil to
get a lot of the contaminants out. So I don't
know exactly what he's overseeing. And when people found out
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he was getting five hundred thousand dollars, which they did
not admit to at the beginning, you see, they covered
that up and they still this day covered up who
was supposed to pay for it. So the whole thing
is starting to smell. And then you know, we had
a private tape that we played on the air that
sober Off gave to wealthy guys, wealthy Hollywood guys agents,
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giving them information that he didn't share with the rest
of the public, like don't drink the water no matter
what the DWP says, don't trust it, don't let your
kids drink it, don't bathe your baby in it, that
kind of stuff, and some real estate advice, you know,
hold on for a year, don't sell now, because a
year from now or after all the government money pours in,
you'll get triple the offer. Again not sharing that with
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the rest of the public. Now, he goes over to
Harvard Westlake, where all his kids went to school, from
what I understand from this story, and he spoke before
an alumni group at Harvard Westlake, and somebody recorded him
there and he starts bitching about the elephant in the room,
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which was the five hundred thousand dollars for ninety days work.
And he at Harvard Westlake, he said he found himself
at a point where he had no money and no
contract to do the work. So then I found out
that they really didn't have the money. And then I
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found out that I really did have the personal bills.
I don't know what that means. And there was one
of two things to do, go public and quit and
say I was lied to. Here's my emails, here's my texts,
here's all this blape, he told the group, or tell
them I'll do it for free and hope it comes
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around later on. Now, he really did not want to
do any recovery work unless he was being paid a
half a million dollars for ninety days, which I kind
of suspected. I got the vibe from this guy that
when he had to give up the money because Bass
had so much criticism and everybody was so embarrassed, that
his heart wouldn't be in it, Like he wasn't doing
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it to rebuild the palisades. I don't think he particularly
cares he was doing it, because, hey, that's five hundred
thousand dollars for ninety days work. How many times does
that happen in your life? If I think about that,
how many times have you been offered five hundred thousand
dollars for ninety days work? Now these are exact quotes
(04:31):
because it's off for recording, and then the Times writes
by Monday, sober Off changed course, telling the Times he
did not think that the mayor had lied or intentionally
misled him. That was not what I feel and not
what I meant. Well, what you said is should I
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go public and quit and say I was lied to.
Here's my emails, here's my text, here's all this bleep.
In other words, I have the evidence that they had
promised me many days work for five hundred thousand dollars.
I love the phrase sober off is walking back those comments.
What do you mean walk back comments? You said it,
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you meant it when you said it, you thought you
were talking privately and you didn't know you were being recorded.
I would so much love a guy who would say, yeah,
I did say that. Yeah, that's how I felt. I
meant it. I wanted the money. I took it for
the money. He's complaining he wanted the money because he
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was passing on He's a I guess a consultant of
some kind, and he was passing up other work, private
sector work that paid well. But it's every day there's something,
and meantime, you know, we're Caruso. He's got a huge
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team of business leaders and entertainment people and they're actually
going to be putting up like a hundred modular homes
for one hundred people who are are most in need
and work from there. And there's all kinds of plans
to lay down, to lay down infrastructure such as modern
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water pipes, not a nineteen forty two version of what
Los Angeles had for a water system, but maybe a
twenty twenty five version. And also burying the trans electrical
transmission lines, which has to be done everywhere all over
the state. That's a must every driving to a town.
And we have these in our neighborhood. It looks so antiquated,
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these old wooden poles with all these wires coming out,
some of the thick black wires. They have these metal containers.
They look like gigantic garbage cans on top of the poles.
It's like, my god, this really like I know, my
neighborhood was first developed in the nineteen forties and we
still have the original electrical equipment. It looks like it's
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from the nineteen forties and all kinds of wires criss
crossing all over the place, and everybody's trees are tangled
up in them. You know, people don't People either don't
trim their trees or the city doesn't trim the trees
often enough.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Sounds like you're talking about my neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, all cities that way and don't. Wouldn't electrical poles
look ridiculously antiquated.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, I mean again, we've talked about it. I don't
understand why everything is not underground.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Because they don't want to spend the money. I know
they want to keep the money for profits.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, so then when houses burned down, Oh but still
then they're still going to pass the costs on to us.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We wouldn't have half these fires if the wires were underground.
That's what pisses me off. When all these left wing
jackass jackasses. I'd be careful.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You do you need to find your edit?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I know, I know it's jammed. Yeah, oh it's global warming.
It's like, shut up. Why didn't you, as as a governor,
a mayor council person, get in the twenty first century
and sign a deal and have all the electric wires
buried underground? All right, that's what modern cities do. Electrical
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wires are buried underground. Sober Off Current at the Times
repeatedly pointed out he gave up lucrative consulting work to
take on this role, and he gave an interview a
few days ago saying he'd always assumed he would be
paid if I was a billionaire or a one hundred
millionaire or a twenty millionaire or whatever. I probably would
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have done this for free from the beginning, but I wasn't.
I'm not, and I didn't, and I had to give
up things that were going to be helpful to me.
He's actually pleading poor. And the same story is that
he sent five kids to Harvard Westling.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah you know how expensive that school is?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, you know, yeah, we didn't go there. But now
it's sixty thousand dollars according to the Times, sixty thousand
dollars per per kit, per kid, per year, per kid. Yeah.
Soberoff said Bass called him on February eighth when the
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news broke about his half million dollars, and Bass asked
him if he could make adjustments to his salary, and
he thinks the mayor did so after learning that the
Foundations that were expected to cover his salary were now
looks like backing out. Soberoff said he was told by
someone in the mayor's office that the Foundations were resisting
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the idea of giving money to his salary. His understanding
was the Foundations had been unaware what the money would
be used for and found the specifics to be unacceptable.
So what kind of scam was pulling on these foundations,
and we still don't know what the foundations were. But
he's telling she's telling sober Off, don't worry. It's not
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not tax money. The foundations are donating money what to
some mayor's firefund, and she's not saying specifically where it's
going to go. She didn't say, well, it's to pay
Steve sober Off a half million dollars, who, by the way,
is really rich. Okay, I mean he helped get the
the Staples Center constructed. He also developed Applia del Rey District.
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So the foundations didn't know that half million dollars, half million,
half million dollars of their money was going to go
to Steve sober Off. Sober Off said he never directly
asked Basque if it was true that the city did
not have the philanthropic funding to pay him. He called
the mayor back and offered to work for free, but
only after concluding that the city lacked the funds. Well,
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of course, the city its self lacked the funds. The
city is broke. That's not discussed, but trust me, it's
completely broke. It doesn't know how to pay its bills
because they've blown way too much money on raises for
all the riffraff city employees, oh excuse me, devoted public servants,
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and not to mention over a billion dollars for the
vagrants and drug addicts. More coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So we're talking about this Steve Soberoff, the Big Savior,
who was complaining at a Harvard Westlake alumni meeting that
he feels lied to by Karen Bass because the five
hundred thousand dollars was pulled back for the ninety days
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of work that he's supposed to do to start the
recovery process. And I predicted this. I told you when
they took away the half million dollars, his heart wasn't
going to be in it. And it wasn't. Can you
imagine he's actually doing this publicly. Somebody recorded him at
this meeting, and now he's trying to say, well, I
didn't really mean that. That's not what I intended to say.
(12:18):
I mean, it's on tape, buddy. Just admitute. You're pissed,
and I understand you thought you had a sweet deal
ninety days of work. You look like a hero. Mostly
I saw him standing next to Karen Bass providing some
kind of political secret service protection because everybody hates it
right now, and so he wanted to stand up and
be the be the hard driving, competent adult with the
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big booming voice to show that he's in charge. And
turned out he was just a mercenary. It's like, yeah, okay,
I'll play this role for ninety days. Give me a
half million. And the plan falls through when the foundations,
the philanthropic nonprofits found out they were giving Steve sober
(13:01):
Off a half million dollars and they said, what the bleep?
Nobody told us. So Karen Bass, if you read between
the lines, as she likes to say, I guess didn't
tell these organizations that the money that was going to
go to a millionaire some kind of fire aid, maybe
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fire aid for millionaires. Then here's another character who I've
been asking about this guy for weeks and he actually
popped up into the news for exactly five seconds. Karen Bass,
since she was in Africa, was not the mayor technically
when the fires broke out, it was the acting mayor.
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LA City Council President Marquise Harris Dawson. Is that Marquise
or Marquise. I've heard Marquise, where's that coming from? Marquise
Harris Dawson, And so he was technically in charge, but
I have not seen any explanation of his role. Did
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he call Kristin Crowley? Did Crowley call him? Was he
part of a meeting because of Bass's body clock is
upside down in Africa and Ghana. Well, at least Marquis
is in town here in the same time zone, and
things are happening in real time in front of his face.
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So what did he do? What decisions did he make?
Was he aware of the thousand firefighters being sent home,
the forty engines being kept in the garage? Was he
aware of any of that, that the hillsides were not
manned with fire trucks and firefighters as the wind started
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blowing on January seventh, Well, suddenly he's popped up to
defend Karen Bass against the criticism over here, hiring Kristin
Crowley play this little clip. The people of Los Angeles
elected the mayor to make these calls, and I'm the supporter.
We elected the mayor to be in Los Angeles when
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the worst fire in the history of the city breaks out,
We didn't elect the mayor to fly to Africa to
arrange a consulate for the nation of Ghana. And we
found that out yesterday courtesy to some leaked audio tape
involving one of Bass's aides, international relations expert what was
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his name, Boz's last name, Alexander Bose. Yeah, Alexander Bose
was patiently explaining to an undercover reporter that you know,
this is a very important strategic trip because we want
to get all these African consulates in Los Angeles. It's like, oh, sure,
that's what you were elected for. No, we didn't. We
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didn't elect her to make a decision like this when
it was when she has not copped to her role.
If you fire Crowley, Bass has got to go too.
Bass is way more responsible because she's in charge. She's
in charge of Crowley, and she should have called Crowley
and she should have had meetings and plans and be
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part of the extensive negotiations on how we're gonna deal
with the fire, not trying to get a consulate from
Ghana established. So where was Marquise Harris Dawson if basses
out in Africa, where is he? What did he do?
What time did he go to bed on the night
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of January sixth, because by then even Bass put out
the warning, did he was he aware of the warning?
It's weird that he stayed quiet for six weeks and
he's only popped off now after Bass has fired, Mark
fired Crowley And as if people don't have enough trouble,
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We'll get to this later on. Do you know that
there are tow truck bandits targeting LA fire victims and
during during the days after the fire, towing their cars randomly.
You are not gonna believe. How did this go on?
And some of these guys had been caught before doing this,
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but I guess they didn't go to jail for very long.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
All that ahead, you're listening to John Cobel's on demand
from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
John Cobelts Show camp I AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. What what you're shaking your head? Yeah,
shaking your head and disapprove.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I do that every day.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you you know what chatbots are?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, you ever talked to one? No? I don't mean
like those customer service chats bots?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, because I do that. I do and means I
was so excited today. I thought I had I had.
I thought I had a chat bot and it was
a real person. When I did chat I had.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
A real person. Yes, oh man must be the last.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Seriously, I couldn't believe it because I was asking questions.
I knew it was. It was definitely a person. It
wasn't a bot.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Eddie chatbots I've dealt with. Take you in circles.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh, then I just deleted.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's supposed to be artificial intelligence. These are This is
like artificial stupidity.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They don't answer questions correctly, and they don't progress whatever
you're trying to do. If I'm trying to buy something,
I can't I can't buy it. I I questions because
something is screwed up. It just goes around and around
in circles. It's terrible. All my experiences with these these
stupid chat pots have been a complete waste of time.
And you're talking to people on the phone or a
(18:52):
waste of time too because it's often somebody ten thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Away when they read a script that drives me insane,
and I have to tell them to stop. You do
to stop reading the script, put the paper down and
just talk to me.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They'll pause, and then they'll go back to reading the script.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And they also repeat what I'm so sorry, missus Mark,
I'm so sorry that you've had such a bad you
know whatever, and then they repeat it. I'm like, just
don't be sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I tell them, you're not sorry. Why would you be sorry?
You didn't because it's ridiculous the way companies treat people,
and now they want to fire these poor people overseas
and replace them with these idiot checkpots who are it
ain't better. They companies do not want to service their customers.
They just hope you get frustrated and give up and
(19:39):
go away, which that's the whole person. Well I've done too,
but I remember I boycott companies for years after they've
displeased me. Not that they care, because there's too many
stupid people in the world who keep going Yeah, that's
right when I get displeased. Now, this, though, is weird.
And what I was going to ask you, is he
ever had a checkpot that you developed a relationship with? What?
(20:03):
Of course not? Oh, I don't know. You can get lonely.
La Times had this story today by Queenie Wong. A
growing number of teenagers are turning to AI chatbots for
advice and emotional support. It's called character dot ai. It's
(20:30):
a new startup and it's it's a tech company that
creates these these fake people online that teenagers are getting
emotionally involved with. When her autistic teens suddenly became angry, depressed,
and violent, the mother search for answers on the phone
found her son had been exchanging messages with chatbots on
(20:52):
character dot ai. It's an artificial intelligence app that allows
users to create and interact with virtual characters that mimic celebrities,
historical figures, or anyone else their imagination conjures. You can
make up fake girlfriends, fake boyfriends, fake fake anything.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What happens when you want to meet.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, that's why these are cool, is they? I know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm just saying, if you, you know, if you're that
wacky and you develop a relationship and then you think
that this chatbot is real, right, and then you want
to take it to the next level.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I don't know what that would be. Meet me in
the park, right, and then nobody shows you're waiting for
the chatbot. It's it it They think that like this
really has an effect on some kids because actually they
start treating the chatbot character as if it is real. Yeah,
and they become emotionally involved. And so parents are now
(21:54):
suing this company, the parent company's character technologies in Menlo,
claiming the chatbots cause their children to hurt themselves and others.
I guess because the AI starts working on its own,
and I guess you can whip the kids into like
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some kind of an emotional state where they start acting out.
There's a lot of these Meta and Google have their
own chatbots, so do Snapchat. The company racked up almost
two million installations in the first week. By December, twenty
(22:42):
seven million people were using the app. Twenty seven million
people are talking to fake bot characters. Listen to this.
Users spend more than ninety minutes with the bots each day.
Oh no, ninety minutes they talked to this fake thing
on their phone.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now you do what the verry's sad.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What are they going to do when they well, you know,
you see what what what shows up in the workplace? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
Imagine dating these people whose entire emotional development has been
talking to a bot on the phone. Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean, I wonder if these people realize that these
people aren't real. I mean, do they realize that?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Or do they? I mean, I think after a while they.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The lines are blurred, right they they they they don't No.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Because because the the I mentioned that, the the chetbot
could emotionally manipulate the person, and you start triggering chemical reactions, right,
feelings of comfort, feelings of of just I guess, emotions,
all the positive emotions that come with a real relationship
(24:00):
or real romance or a real friendship. It starts saying
the things and acting in a way that will trigger
those happy chemicals in your brain. And after a while,
I mean, look how people get involved in television shows
and movies. I've always been kind of fascinated by that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I yell at the TV. I do, I get, I
get very uh all right now think about that. But
I know, but I know on a deep level that
it's all but in.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The moment, in the moment, you're lost in the characters. Yes,
you need to think that's weird. See, I always catch myself.
I can't really enjoy fictional stuff because I always catch
myself getting caught up. It's like, wait a second, they're
all reading a script.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know, they've got cameras and laughs at me because
I and I know, let me just say this, John,
I know that it's not reality. I just I get so,
you know, and then I start thinking, what if this
was real? That's how my brain works.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I know it's not. But then one step away.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
From well, no, I'm not love with the chat bot.
I'm going to tell you that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
By December, a total of more than twenty seven million
people were using this particular bot one hundred and sixteen
percent increase. It is valued at a billion dollars and
the you know how they make money a ten dollars
monthly subscription fee, so the bot will respond more quickly
(25:24):
and you get early access to new features. So if
you don't pay the ten dollars, the bot just sits there.
It's like, hey, you're listening to me. Hey, I said something,
give me ten dollars. All right, give you ten dollars.
Now you get the quick answer. Oh that's sick. That's
really sick. There was a chatbot on Snapchat that provided
(25:47):
a researcher posing as a thirteen year old. Okay, the
researcher pretended they were thirteen years old, and this Snapchat
bot was giving them advice about how to have sex
with an older man. Oh no. And Meta's Instagram allows
you to create AI characters. You can create sexually suggestive
(26:09):
AI bots that'll talk to you as if they're minors,
so you can start talking. You could start engaging in
sex talk with fake underage bots on Instagram. Well, I
(26:29):
guess they'll start talking dirty to you.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's another ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Where you could call one of those sex lives where
you get like really overweight women.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
How do you know they're overweight? You just listen to
their voice.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
They're always they always are in the movies. Are more
coming up?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
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in the three o'clock hour. What am I doing at
two o'clock? Oh right, that's a big deal. I just
(27:23):
can't find it in front of me. Freddy Escobar is
the head of the Firefighters Union United Firefighters in Los Angeles.
I think it's called and we've had him on before
and they are supporting Christian Crowley very publicly, and we
will have him on just after two o'clock, all right,
Frey Escobar, And we've got other stuff connected to the
(27:49):
Crowley firing. A lot of people, I tell you a
lot of people are probably angry with Karen Bass, even
if they think Crowley should have been fired, because Bass
continue news for what the seventh straight week, not to
take any responsibility at all, not to explain why she
did what she did, and now that other secret tapes
(28:11):
are coming out about why she was in Africa, there
needs to be a real thorough grilling of this Karen Bass,
because I don't I don't find her to be honest.
I don't find her to be uh, what's the word transparent?
Some funny business going on trying to get a consulate
from Ghana after she was told that that we had
(28:36):
extremely dangerous, deadly fire conditions. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what that deal is about. I just get,
you know, I get a vibration, I get a vibe
inside of me.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, how does that feel?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Huh? Actually good? Sometimes depends where the vibe is. But yeah,
if I feel that little little twinge. Gavin Knewsome, this
is pretty this is pretty slick. You know, he lost
track of twenty four billion dollars at homeless money and
he admits this, and this is just like Bass not
(29:10):
being here for the fire and then saying that, well,
nobody told me that there was going to be a fire,
I wasn't aware of the warnings, right, And she says
that it's news for a day or two and then
she just goes on as if it didn't happen. Newsom
does the same thing a few months ago. He had
to admit they lost track of twenty four billion dollars
(29:31):
in homeless money that the state gave to various cities
and counties and fake criminal nonprofits. Now he's stepping forward
with a way to make sure that cities and counties
are held accountable. So he's got almost a billion dollars
in funding so that towns can clean up encampments and
(29:56):
fight homelessness, Like, like, how do you fight homelessness if
you punch out some homeless people. The vast majority of
the money is UH seven hundred and sixty million dollars
and it can be spent on permanent and interim housing,
outreach services, and other efforts. He's big on housing. He
(30:19):
wants to hold accountable these towns that haven't built enough housing.
This is the back door way to get apartment buildings
in residential areas, single family zoned residential areas. They are
fanatics in Sacramento at forcing low income apartment buildings into
(30:39):
middle class and upper middle class neighborhoods. That's what he's
talking about, but he dresses it up as homeless aid.
The people who are out in the streets and you
see them, the drug addicts, the mental patients, the drunks.
Giving them housing isn't going to change any thing. Their
(31:01):
problem is their mental health. They're extremely mentally ill and
they have an extreme drug addiction, and they're gonna keep
living in the streets. And believe me, nobody and a
single family residential suburban neighborhood wants any of these characters
in their neighborhood. And that I'm warning you if you
(31:25):
hear about this in your town, that your town has
accepted this money in order to fight homelessness. It's about
the city building these kinds of multi unit apartments and
they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna put in a lot
of undesirable people into your neighborhood. And Newston is pulling
(31:50):
every lever he can. They take towns to court, they're
trying to find uh find them. It's a lot of
extreme pressure. But because he's basically a dishonest guy for
public consumption, he's dressing this up as homelessness funding and
(32:13):
he's going to hold them accountable. Well, the accountability is
if you don't build the homeless housing in the single
family residential neighborhoods, then he's going to cut off the money.
It's not going to go to get the vagrants, the
drug addicts, and the mental patients off the streets and
off out of the parks and all that. No, it's
(32:35):
about forcing this low income housing into the system. There's
no connection between this kind of housing and why there's
homeless people laying all over your parks and building this
housing is not going to get the drug addicts and
mental patients out of the parks. They're not interested in housing.
(32:55):
But it's really slick and he's trying to confuse the
it's classic news, so beware this is gonna this fight
is because I just read the other day it was
a series of stories about how they passed all these
laws in Sacramento, you know, to force apartments into single
family neighborhoods, and for many different reasons, it hasn't happened.
(33:20):
The law has been a failure. It's been kind of
embarrassing because this was the master plan. And so you're
going to see redoubled efforts here and you're going to
see a lot of dishonesty, a lot of slight of hand.
All Right, we come back. We're going to talk to
Freddy Escobar, head of the Firefighters Union, and they're in
support of Kristin Crowley and they're upset with Bass firing Crowley,
(33:43):
and we have more fire related news regarding Crowley in Bass.
There's a lot of good stuff. Debor Mark live in
the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
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