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to Matt Pakucko coming up after one thirty. Matt is
a resident who was involved some years ago with the
with the what's the name of that Porter, Yeah, Porter Ranch,
Liso Canyon natural gas leak. Remember, thousands of people got
sick because of so Cal Edison. They were not maintaining
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their natural gas storage underground storage area properly, and gas
was coming out and kids were getting sick and dogs
were getting sick. People or ended up with with nose
leads and they were vomiting and irritations. And he was
a citizen leader of that revolt. Now he's aligned with
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residents in Calabasas, also in the Granada Hills area, the
Sunshine Canyon and Lancaster because those three towns have La
County landfills, and the Board of Supervisors yesterday voted nine
to nothing. That five to nothing, excuse me that threes.
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These landfills can receive truckloads after truckloads and truckloads of
toxic waste from all the burned out homes in Pasadena, Altadena,
Pacific Palisades, and Malibu. They gave these landfills a waiver
becauch is. Normally, according to the environmental rules, these landfills
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are not supposed to accept the toxic waste, but for
the next six months, Caliber Bassist will get the waste.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Lancaster and Sunshine Canyon in.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The Granada Hills area get four months of a waiver
and they'll extend the time, and they think it's the
right thing to do. People are really really upset because
God knows what kind of toxic materials are going to
be rotting away and leaking into the soil and the
ground water and in the atmosphere. So everybody's really upset.
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We'll talk to Matt coming up now. Just a couple
of days ago, on Tuesday, there is a woman named
Gina Osborne. You may vaguely remember her name. Geena Osborne
was the safety chief for Metro, you know, the trains
and the subways, and a couple of years ago there
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was a run of terrible crimes on public transit.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, people were.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Getting stabbed, shot, set on fire, and Osborne at some
point went public and said, hey, you know what we
need here.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We need our own Metro police force.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Because many Metro customers that's the only way they can
get around. And this is you know, we have we
have had a mishmash of agencies handling Metro security and
it hasn't worked out. And you know, now Metro is
getting its own police force. They're they're putting it together
in the process, I think so Geene Osborne, for telling
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the truth publicly got fired. She got fired by the CEO,
Stephanie Wiggins, and Kristin Crowley basically is getting fired as
LA fire chief for going public and telling the truth
about Karen Bass and the lack of money and manpower
that Crowley's had to work with for the last few
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years as fire chief. Now, you know, I do think
Crowley made some major judgment mistakes the day of the fire,
But the truth is Bass really is upset with her
for going public and telling what's really going on. Apparently
this is like the mafia. There's a code of silence.
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These government bureaucrats and elected officials who are in many
cases incompetent and corrupt. They don't want anyone airing the
dirty laundry. But we employ these people. Crowley was reporting
to us, the voters, the taxpayers, telling us what's really
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going on behind the scenes. I bet you maybe one
percent of the public knew how badly underfunded the fire
department was, and if you hadn't heard us talking about
it recently, we only have half a fire department. These
national fire councils recommend two firefighters for every thousand every
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thousand pop we have zero point nine. Most cities have
at least one and a half to one point eight firefighters. Again,
should be two. A lot of cities at one and
a half, one point seven, one point eight. We're at
zero point nine. We are the most underfunded, understaffed city
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when it comes to a fire department in the entire country.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
We're number one.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It's something, and it's because part of the reason is
they've diverted so much money into that homeless hole, you know,
that massive, corrupt beast of homelessness has gotten a billion
four dollars, a billion, four hundred thousand dollars this fiscal year,
a billion, four hundred thousand dollars, way more than the
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fire department, a half a million dollars more than the
fire department. And we had yesterday Freddy Escobar from the
Firefighters Union, and he said, we have the same number
of fire stations that we had in nineteen sixty nine,
same number all these years later. Now we come back.
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I brought up Gina Osbourne. Since leaving, since getting fired
from Metro, she started a podcast called Making Maverick Moves
and she recorded this in November of twenty twenty four.
It just got released this week as Crowley was getting fired,
and she talked to Crowley who made it clear about
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the underfunding and understaffing of the fire department. And it's
nothing that Crowley hadn't said privately to Bass and everybody
else except nobody would listen to City Hall.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So we will do that next. You're gonna want to
hear this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
This is Kristin Crowley to Gina Osborne on a podcast
just released this week.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's next.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
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Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I told you in the first segment, Gina Osborne was
fired by Metro for telling the truth. She was the
chief safety officer and she started talking publicly how it's
unsafe to take Metro and they need their own police department,
and so she got fired by the Metro CEO. Gina
most recently has put together a podcast called Making Maverick
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Moves and it's about doing what she did, or what
Kristen Crowley did, is go public over something really important,
even if it exposes and embarrasses your bosses, because the
public needs to know this because the public is in danger.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Remember this is about the public being in.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Danger, whether it's the Metro station, the lack of law
enforcement and all the drug addicts and psychos that were
killing people and assaulting people. Well, in this case, Crowley
knows you can't run Los Angeles with half a fire department.
She told Jane Osborne this on the podcast. This was
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recorded in November. Although Crowley was telling everybody behind the scenes,
including Karen Bass, so this is not like you know,
she was only telling a podcaster. She was telling everybody.
The podcast though just got released this week. Let's play
cut three and Crowley talks about how all this is
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her duty to stand up and tell the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
The city is in a budget counch right now. When
it comes to my position as the chief of advocating
and fighting for the safety and well being of our firefighters,
that's my job to stand up and to say the
fire department can no longer operate this way. We're understaffed,
under resource and underfunded. And a lot of the times
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that she was like, oh, you know, are you really
I mean, our Los Angeles City Fire Department is in uh,
We're literally at a crossroads. So the Maverick move is
me to stand up and say the fire department can
no longer do this. And that's a pretty uncomfortable position
to be in, especially when the fire department, especially the
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Los Angeles City Fire Department, is in a position where
we take more on, we take more on, we take
more on, but at what cost to our people? And
so the Maverick move right now, it's happening as we
speak to you know. So it's my job to stand
up and to fight the fight for what our people
need when it comes to this saying that we use
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as everybody goes home, and everybody's got to go home
to their families at the end of their shifts. So
the Maverick move, I'm standing up and I got to
fight the fight to get our people what they need
to do their jobs.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And again she's told Bass this privately. The Bass and
the rest of the city council goes, oh, do you
really need that? Yeah, obviously we do. And it got proven,
didn't it. On January seventh, Let's go to Cut four
and Crowley is telling Gina Osborne about, among other things,
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dealing with all the vagrants and the crazy people and
the unbelievable number of cloth calls that the fire department
now gets.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
We're busier than we ever have and now the Eliot
d has been around for one hundred and thirty eight years.
I tell you that the caliber of people that take
on this mission, just either from the first responder side
or the military side, there's so many, and the law
enforcement side, I should say, is our counterparts. It takes
really really special group of people that take on this
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mission each and every day, and where people are putting
their lives on the line, they're putting others in front
of themselves. They're sacrificing and their families are sacrificing every
single day. So we're busier than we've ever been within
the city of Los Angeles, and you hit on a
couple points from the fires to you know, assisting the
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city with the unhiused population. We ran over five hundred
thousand calls in twenty twenty three and we're actually on
pace to run even more in twenty twenty four with
less personnel than we had ten years ago. To be
able to stand up and communicate and have strategies and
innovations and efficiencies are really important. You just can't stand
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up and complain. You got to have some strong strategies
moving forward of how we can be more efficient with
what we've got, but also to have the courage to
stand up and say, hey, we can't maintain this anymore.
So we have to be really smart, really calculated and
what types of services the LFD can continue to provide.
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And because we are spread very, very very thin, and
we're focusing back on our core fundamentals of emergency services
and fire and emergency medical services, and that's our core mission,
core fundamentals of who we are. So you know, we
have to recalibrate and that's okay, but we can't keep
doing more with less, and so we're just going to
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be super smart about it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's Kristin Crowley, the fire chief.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We have the homeless, we have a mayor Bass and
the idiots on the city council. They're running a city
that allows the homeless to start fourteen thousand fires a year.
Fourteen thousand fires a year. Just sit and think about
that massive number. The firefighters get a one hundred and
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eighty calls every day about homeless issues, homeless starting fires,
homeless needing emergency medical care. God knows what's going on
out there. Again, with the same number of fire stations
since nineteen sixty nine and only half the funding and
half the personnel that they should have. Here's the next cut.
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The fire chief, Kristin Crowley talking to Gina Osborne again
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
The consequence of being underfunded.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The consequences are and it's not a really comfortable position
to be in. Right, you make these maverick moves, and
I'm sure as you talk to other people, like you said,
there's consequences to everything, and if you're willing to take
something on and this is where we are. This is
our reality. So the consequences are our service delivery model.
It's going to look a little different the way that
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we provide services when somebody calls nine one one.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
If it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Quite to the level of where and what and how
we utilize our limited resources, then we have to come
with their solutions of utilizing other types of services within
the city, something that's non emergency, something that might take
a little bit more time to get there, versus the
normal way we'd send a fire engine, a firetruck or
an ambulance to provide a low level type of service.
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And that's the consequence. It's like, Okay, we can't keep
doing it because we have limited resources, so our service
delivery has got to change. And that's uncomfortable, right. It's
it's easy for us to just keep doing it and
keep doing it, but I tell you we're at that
tipping point when it comes to taking care of our people,
and you know, what are the consequences of our own
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actions if we keep doing the same thing. And I
tell you, our firefighters are tired, Our firefighters are getting injured,
our firefighters are making mistakes because of their fatigue. So
something's got to give and you know that's the Maverick
move that we just talked about. It's like, Okay, we've
got to do things different. We've got to take care
of our people. We have to continue to serve the
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communities and the public. But it's going to look it's
going to look a little different.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, and it's just astonishing. There's there's the top two
main things that a local government ought to do is
provide police service and fire service one levels and make
life as good as they can the firefighters and the
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police officers. You don't exhaust them with endless shifts and
endless overtime. You don't put them in unnecessary danger because
there's a lack of funding and there's a lack of staffing.
You don't respond, oh do you really need that? We
need the police and fire a thousand times more than
we need all these wacky social programs and all these
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corrupt homeless programs, corrupt, wasteful homeless programs.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But I imagine the city council.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
They got a lot of friends and relatives who've set
up these pop up nonprofits to suck away homeless money.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, we're spending a billion, four hundred thousand in the
city La to service people who start fourteen thousand fires,
and the people who put out those fires are underfunded.
We've got more Kristin Crowley clips to play later in
the show. But this is the real of what's going
on here. And of course this pissed off Karen Bass,
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and she was going to fire Crowley uh as soon
as she could once Crowley went public with a version
of this to Fox eleven and Gigi graziet So. But
but we're living in such a dangerous city because most
of the city council is just a bunch of sociopaths
and and Karen Bass too, Uh, they don't care about us.
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You judge people by their actions, not their rhetoric, not
their words and their speeches and all that other nonsense.
You don't believe them when they say about how they
they're that they're public servants who care about our safety,
and hell no, they don't know, they don't. There are
a bunch of grifters, largely, I mean how many, how many?
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How many of them ended up in prison so far
that was on the La City Council and the people
who ended up in prison of the same people who've
underfunded the fire Department in all these years.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're talking Matt Pakucko on Mac Pacucko Citizen Activist, and
he is with a lot of residents who don't want
the landfills in La County, in Calabasas, the Sunshine Canyon Landfill,
in the Granada Hills area, and in Lancaster. They don't
want all the toxic waste from the fires dumped into
their landfills. It's normally prohibited, and now the La County
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Supervisors has given out waivers.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's next.
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Speaker 1 (17:52):
We're gonna talk about with Matt Pacucko.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
He's a resident and he's been part of the protests
to keep all this toxic waste from the fires out
of a number of landfills. They are the Calabasas Landfill,
Sunshine Canyon, which is in the Granada Hills area Lancaster
as well, and yesterday it was a five to nothing
vote by the La County Border Supervisors. They're going to
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issue waivers so that a lot of this toxic waste
can be taken into the landfills, and a lot of
residents are very unhappy with it for obvious reasons that
this hazardous waste is going to end up in the air,
in the water, in the soil, and they just they
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don't trust the government, They don't trust the claims and
why should you. Let's talk now with Matt Pacucko. Matt,
how are you again?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Hey, John, thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, So it was a five nothing, a shutout on
the part of the Border Supervisors. And I imagine there's
a lot of unhappy people.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, the vote was in their mind way before yesterday
that that was just political theater going on where they
had to like do this checkbox of having this hearing
and take all these like eight like almost nine hundred
written public comments about four in favor that were you know,
nine hundred against fifty people at least showed up or
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on the phone yesterday that the supervisors didn't even listen to.
While we were making in person public comments about two
hundred people at our protests were all over local media.
And what do they do They just ignore all of that.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, and all those people they did come out or
did write or you end up listening or watching the meeting.
They represent thousands of other people who feel the same way.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Of course they do. You know, very few people can
actually make it to these things. They you know, that's
that's powerful the course of any government thing. It's so
hard for normal people to get to those meetings, especially yesterday.
This this is where the they really dry, you know,
put the nail in the coffin. They knew that they
would be at three clock with our agenda item, because
that's when all these other agency heads came in, but
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they don't tell us publicly. We have to wait theres
from nine am.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You got to wait six hours, and they know what
time this topic's going to be aired.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yes, they did. That's what all those people marched in.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, that's you know, that's just awful. These people are
just awful, the bureaucratic heads and these politicians. Lindsay Horravath
is one of the supervisors. I'm going to read something
from the Daily News story I know you know this,
but I just want the listeners to understand. Lindsey Horrivath,
one of the supervisors, said at the meeting that hazardous
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household materials are being taken to staging areas for processing
and packing, and this hazardous waste is not going to
the landfills. This is the stuff that they're packaging at
will Rogers State Beach, at the former Panga Motel, another
staging area in Azusa, Farnworth Park, the Altadena golf Course.
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And they claim that this kind of waste is not
going into the landfills. That now everything's ash. How do
you separate the toxic waste from the non toxic waste,
Well you don't.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
There's certain things they can see that they know are
toxic hazard is, but then the rest of it that
they can't see has already been incinerated and is a
pile of ash. So no, they can't separate it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Because they they claim that there's they're good, they have
a process and in order to I guess neutralize it
to some extent.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Oh, well, here's the thing. That's the stuff that they
separate that's waiting like in those staging stations, that's not
going to go into landfills. That's going to the Hasmad landfills.
That's where all this stuff should go. It's more expensive,
it's going to take longer, but it'll take it. And
it's far from population centers. That's where all this stuff
should go. They just they just claim over and over
again two things. Well, it's not as fast, doesn't get
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this public relations nightmare off their books and out of
you know, people's face is fat. It's more expensive, and
then that's probably you know, that's the main thing that
they just don't want to spend that time and that
money to do it the right way, which is more
of a permanent solution. Rather they're going to do this
like that. There's no foresightless government, right, They're just setting
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up for the next disaster by dumping this has matt
all over La.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Sunshine Canyons near Granada Hills and the landfill's program managers
guy named Gabe Thompson, and he says this material is
double wrapped, wet down and then pushed into the working
area of the landfill. Then they wet it down again.
And I guess he's saying, well that you know, this
makes it safe.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
This place is literally yesterday. I think I told you
the other day. I'll just say it again. There's hundreds
of notices of violation from the AQMD against this facility
Sunshine Canyon, including yesterday notice of violation. There's thousands of
comples just in the last year. This place cannot manage
its current normal household trash. There's no way are they
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going to be wetting this down twenty four to seven
into infinity to keep this stuff from blown around.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And remember this is right next to the cascades of
the LA Water Supply, which is open to the air.
It is right next to Van Norman Reservoir. Those two
things are like seventy three percent I think of LA
Water Supply that stuff, and they're in the ten Anna
Winds Corridor right there. That stuff blows through right into
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LA That stuff there's they can't control it. Now, who
are they kidding?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So they don't want to take the time and they
don't want to spend the money to take this out
into the desert somewhere out in the wilds where it's
not going to harm any local residents. I mean, that's
astonishing compared to what they spend money on, you know,
like like the billion, four hundred million in the city
that they spend on the homeless, that they have money for.
But to take out all this toxic way and uh
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put it in the truck and send it out into
the desert.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Oh, we don't want to spend the money on that.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, new some pretty much he was, you know, in
the early days, bragging that he was instrumental in waiving
all the rules environmental laws sequel all this stuff that
allowed this to be then put into local landfills. It's
like he's bragging.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. They they've raised the daily tonnage limit too.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, that's the whole thing. They raised that to like
some double or triple what it was. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Then in Lancaster it's been tripled from three thousand tons
to nine thousand tons.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
And they can extend this waiver as many times as
they want. So they say, oh it'll be a few months. No,
this is a whole many you know year it takes
to truck the stuff out.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Of There are there lawsuits.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
There was a tro O timbers training order that got
shot down. But there are plenty of groups in on
this and they are working on the next the legal all.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
The complicated environmental laws because you can't build anything in
California because of all the environmental regulations and all the lawsuits.
And you would think when they actually have toxic waste,
they that there would be some kind of regulation that
the general public could use to stop it from being
taken into their neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I mean, everything else is blocked, you.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Know, the most precious thing. Their meeting yesterday Border Supervisors
started out with them acknowledging somebody about how they are
so good with taking care of the land and how
they are so great and environmental protection in California, and
then this, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, So I mean, did this deflate everyone or fire
them up?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Oh? Pretty fired up. It's going to be a you know,
just a tough ballut. I went through the whole thing
with the gas blowout and dealing with the same agencies,
some of the same agencies and some of the exact
same people, and dealing with those people. They they are
they're on the city clock, city employees, county and state employees.
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They're there to check off their boxes and go home.
They're not the people that care about what's going on.
They're there to do their job and get out of there.
You can see that on their faces. When all these
so called experts are just going through their checklist of
things while people in the audience are screaming about their
future and their lives and their children. These people just
got nothing. All these experts had no other solutions. Even
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the hasmat sites out of you know, the far away
once they talked about that for thirty seconds, say no,
that's not a solution.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's that's the answer. They just dismissed it, you know.
And all the all the workers wear in hasbat suits.
That's what's really funny. They claim that, don't worry, this
is not going to be toxic, this is not going
to endanger you. But everyone that's handling the material is
wearing a hasmat suit. That's yeah, all right, Well, Matt,
as more happens, please keep in touch with us. Okay, hey,
thank you need some maritime You'll always get it here.
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That's Matt Pacucko and he's one of the activists trying
to stop all the toxic waste from getting dumped from
the Palisades and Altadena fires in Calabasas. It's being dumped
in Lancaster Granada Hills. Coming up after two o'clock, we're
gonna have Carl Demyo on. He's an assemblyman now out
of San Diego, and you know, the insurance industry is
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just collapsing here in California, as you probably know, and
he has a bill to try to stabilize the whole
broken down, busted system.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So Carl's gonna come up soon.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
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Carl Demyo. The California insurance situation is just a disaster
in so many ways. It's almost impossible to get in
too because it's so complicated. But everything is fouled up
because that's the state we're in. You know, you put
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people at Gavin Newsom in charge and Karen Bass in charge,
and the insurance commissioner is the cal fart guy Ricardo Laura,
who's just a total moron. We'll talk with the Carl
Demile because he's got a bill that supposedly would straighten
a lot of this out.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Speaking of Gavin Newsom, he's it's our company doing this,
So I suppose I have to word this carefully. Did
you know Gavin Newsom has another podcast coming.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Out on iHeart. Yeah, you want to be a guest.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I do want to be a guest, because well, first
of all, the original podcast, which I guess is going on.
It's a sports and culture show called Politicken, and he's
got the former NFL star Marshawn Lynch and a sports agent,
Doug Hendricks and as.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
His co host.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You've heard this right, Eric to a second of it,
But oh you haven't. Just the preview that we played
the one time on the show. Oh oh, I thought
maybe you listen to it? No, No, I mean what
sports and culture show? And Gavin Newsom's one third? Hm,
I mean it's our company. I suppose U shouldn't question anything.
(29:23):
But now now it's He claims he's gonna have a
lot of Trump people coming on, people from the conservative movement, Republicans, uh,
and he is going to have people that he vehemently
disagrees with because he would like to have a forum
so they can both both sides can illuminate their positions.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He says, I want Democrats to come on and challenge
where we are and a lot of these issues. And
so I'm asking the same questions that you're asking of me.
Where the hell is the Democratic Party? What are we doing?
Who are we? Where are we going? What's the path back?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Does he not understand?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He really doesn't understand why his party is largely out
of power outside of California. And then you look at
California and the rest of the country runs on California.
Whenever you got some left winging progressive candidate running for
Congress or governor or anything in the other forty United States,
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they say, hey, you want him to do what Newsom
did to California. That is the most powerful talking point,
the most powerful angle to run on. It's like, you
don't want to become California, And really that's what they do.
And you can see why. So what I don't understand
is is somebody gonna go on this podcast because if
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I'm a guest, this is what I would do. It's like,
you've been running things for six years. You lost twenty
four billion dollars of homeless money. By your own admission,
you don't know where it went or if it did
any good. Let's talk about that. I mean, I'm astonished
that he actually went public and said this, and then
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you know that was on a Tuesday. We went on
to Wednesday, and there was no repercussions. There's no consequences,
and he's sitting there wondering, well, what the hell happened? Well,
look at all the garbage coming out of Washington now
about the Doge investigation, Look at all the money that's
wasted that we get nothing for. And he's sitting there going, well,
what's happened to our party? He acts like he.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Does he read the news.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Is he sitting in such a progressive bubble that he
doesn't know what they're uncovering in Washington, d C? Does
he not know how much people here in California hated
the crime, hated the homelessness, hated all the woke bs.
Does he not understand it? And it was it was
his crowd that was promoting this I'm just just oh.
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And now he wants a podcast, He wants to hear
from the other he wants to figure out where we
went wrong.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Well, so when he runs for president, he can say,
see see what I did. I'm a uniter, I'm trying
to fix the I'm trying to fix the divide.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Here is a cut of him promoting the podcast.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
We need to change the conversation, and that's why I'm
launching a new podcast, and this is going to be
anything but the ordinary politician podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I'm going to be talking to.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
People directly that I disagree with, as well as people
I look up to.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
But more important than anything else.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
I'll be talking directly with you the listener, real conversations.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What's going on with the.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
Cost of eggs, what are the impacts real impacts to
you around tariffs? What power does an executive order really have?
And what's really going on inside of dotsch. Look, there's
an onslaught of information that we take in, so let's
take it to the sources without the typical political mumbo jumble.
In the first few weeks, we're going to be sitting
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down with some of the biggest leaders and architects in
the MAGA movement.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
This is Gavin Newsom. That's the title of the podcast.
This is Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Catchy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
He didn't mention anything about the twenty four billion dollars
in homeless money.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
He blew no political mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Though he didn't mention you know, the sixteen billion dollars
in high speed rail money that he blew. He and
saying thing about the fifty billion dollars in unemployment money
that he blew during COVID.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
He's going to be talking about that on his podcast,
John he is, Yes, all those issues.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
There's my three questions.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Explain the blown money for COVID unemployment, Explain the blown
money for homelessness, and the blown money for high speed rail.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Let's start there.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I think Ray should make sure that you get on
as a guest, because, look, he wants to talk to opponents.
You're an opponent, I mean, not an opponent. But well,
you don't agree with him.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Wouldn't we agree? It's just what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Wouldn't he agree with me that you can't blow twenty
four billion dollars in homeless money and say I don't
know where it went that, that's not that. If that's
what you did, you should go home. You should close
down your office and go home.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, he's going to have an explanation.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
All right, we're coming up. I think we're going to
have to Eric. I think you're going to have to
be a regular connoisseur of the Gavenus podcast. I think
we need a weekly report. It's to promote the company's
investment here. Is he getting paid for this? That's a
good question. I mean, I guess I'm gonna have to
listen to this. Debora Mark Carl Demos. Next on the
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