March 7, 2025 • 37 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (03/10) - Phil Shuman fills in for John. Michael Monks joins the show to talk about the failed high-speed rail project. KFI listeners talk back replies with Phil Shuman. Dodgers to open their season in Tokyo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (00:05):
App sitting in for John Cobelt. Thank you so much.
Ten years ago or more maybe eleven years ago. Who
remembers the name Neil cash Carry. Neil cash Carrey was
a Republican candidate for governor who ended up getting beaten
badly by Jerry Brown. You remember Jerry Brown, and so
I remember interviewing him in the newsroom at Fox eleven
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and we were talking about the high speed rail and
he said, you know, I travel across California all the
time and people say to me, you know, how can
I get from Los Angeles to San Francisco faster? But
not one person ever said to me, this is cash
Carry talking. I wish I could get on a train
in Anaheim and end up in San Francisco, for example,
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as opposed to you know, going to the airport and
hopping on Southwest and getting there in a fraction of
the time. So since then, we've spent countless billions on
the high speed rail project. It's something that present and
Trump and his new administration is reviewing this week. California
Congressman Kevin Kyleie formerly requested that the FBI opened an
investigation into it. So I'm joined by Michael Monks from
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KFI News, who's been covering this story. What is the
latest on where things stand with this project?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, the board of the California High Speed Rail Authority
met yesterday and this was their first board meeting since
the FED showed up at Union Station in downtown LA
and said we think we're going to shut down this
gravy train that you've been enjoying for many years. In fact,
the latest amount of money that was promised by the
Biden administration was about four billion dollars, money that the
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rail Authority says is needed to continue work just in
the Central Valley portion of this long project.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's as far as they've gotten.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
By the way, we are not going from Anaheim and
San Francisco yet, we are not even going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I missed to remind our listeners right. It was back
in eight, two thousand and eight Proposition one A. It
was called San Francis go to Los Angeles, thirty three
billion dollars done. Like in ten years, we're nowhere near done.
The price tag is more than one hundred and twenty
billion in counting.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yes, the price tag is about the budget for the
whole thing is about one hundred billion dollars more than
what we were first told when this project, you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Know, what's one hundred billion? What is it anymore?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
This this economy, it's nothing. Yeah, but that's what people
are starting there.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So why are we even still having this discussion.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
That's what's especially with Trump and Doge and Junior President
Elon Musk, you know, cutting things, you know, mercilessly like
this would be like an obvious and they have clearly
set their sights on it. They've they've got a formal
review about specifically the four billion dollars, and that could
go farther. You mentioned Congressman Kylie and his requires is
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basically a criminal investment. It's not a federal project, its
federal fund. Federal the federal government is involved.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Most of the money has come from the state, so
it is still taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's just a you and I are paying for this, correct, exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
And I think more people are wondering, especially people who
were excited about this. You know, you might not think
there are a lot of people, but it would be
nice to hop on a train that could get you
to San Francisco in just a few hours. And there
was clearly a demand for it, because this had to
get electoral approval originally, and it got it. But I
imagine if this thing we're back on the ballot from pain,
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we please keep doing it, it would overwhelmingly lose.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And maybe that's where.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So let's say, whether it's a month from now or
a year from now, they pull the plug on this thing,
then we've got the you've heard the proverbial train to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I've been there.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
We covered it in Merceid, Fresno, Bakersfield. I mean, there's
tracks there, there's infrastructure there.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So what do you do? You just abandon it?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Do you say I can go from Bakersfield to Mercede
on a train?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now, congratulations, we might get.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
To that point, but there are no trains from Bakersfield
to merced that are our high speed right, Like, none
of this stuff is going now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Some of this project does use existing tracks.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But what we learned from the board at yesterday's meeting, okay,
they seemed almost unfazed by what the federal government had
to say. We already know that the real authority came
out and said we welcome this review. We know that
all of the money is account They're everything exactly. It's
just been an expensive project, more so than we thought.
It's been slower than we thought. But the CEO ian
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Ian Chowdry just said, you know, look, it will delay
us further and it will make the project more expensive
if we don't get the federal money. But we are
working on ways to proceed even without it through the
private sector and through state means.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So have they said did they say at the meeting,
like like sort of best case scenario, like when I like, well,
I have great grandchildren by then, but.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
By the time you're going from La to San Francisco,
I don't know if you if you have grandchildren yet.
So I don't know what the timeline looks like on
that front, but it's possible. But they want to have
that first Central Valley portion open. It would basically be
about thirteen years after the entire project was supposed to
be done, all right, Like the whole thing was supposed
to have been opened five years ago. We were supposed
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to already be on trains from Anaheim to San Francisco
five years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
But the board portrays this as really like an economics
job creation program, not like an over budget disaster, you know, right,
So and then so how do you how do you
then criticize that if it's you know, I think their
term was economic engine.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I mean, because even though we're not taking trains, there
is work happening, there's digging, there's building, there's sixteen hundred
jobs connected to this thing. And I know in your
other line of work in television, you might be familiar
with the term sizzle reel. This is something where you
put the highlights right to sell yourself. Well, they had
a sizzle reel play at this board meeting yesterday from
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some meeting that they had had with a bunch of
you know, showing what showing construction economic impact that this
thing has had and will continue to have if it
is allowed to proceed. And what struck me the most
at the meeting wasn't just the comments by the CEO
the optimism. It was from the board members themselves that
also govern this thing, and that they they believe, they
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still believe fully in this project. There was no sense
of remorse and how long it has taken, and no
real sense of urgency to address what President Trump and
Secretary Duffy had to say about it in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, I guess in a perfect world, if you
said to people, would you rather have a train or
not to go from Anaheim slash LA to San Francisco,
People's yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Be a nice option, but not at this costactly.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That's right, because you do have to weigh the cost benefit,
and it's the same.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
What also strikes me is that it's just it's just
sad that we're even having this discussion.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
You know, we should we should be better at this.
It's similar, I think to Metro Los Angeles. Obviously, Metro
Los Angeles is up and running. There are subways and
trains that run, and I'm I'm a big fan of
riding trains, and I don't drive a lot in Los
Angeles until recently. I'm driving up here to the station
a lot more than I used to. Instead I would
hop around on the trains. I'll tell you, driving in
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Los Angeles is everything that they warn you about.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm not a native.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I've been here two years, okay, and so it is
everything they say it is, and it changes you while
you're on the road. I mean, there are times I
am so inexplicably achingry right now about just how long
it's taking to go anywhere, and like the trains would
make sense, but we have to sell those trains to
more people, and you can't do that when they feel unsafe,
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when they're dirty, when they're not reliable, and when they
aren't going to places that you need them to go.
And so it's a losing argument for public transportation when
you evaluate metros overall results, and it's a losing argument
for public transportation with this project.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, you're in a good situation because you have the
option of using a car. So many people that are
on the subway, on the the bus do it because
they have to, that's right, not because they That is
what a lot of people would say to the board
members at Metro when we would address danger and that
sort of thing is that you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Know, there are folks whose only mode of transmit This
is not some luxury. You know, if you want to
hop on and go down to Long Beach for the
day or Santa Monica, you know, just because you don't
worry about parking, that's one thing. But the housekeeper who
has to take the bus to the train and Azusa
down to wherever I mean, that's a completely different situation.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You've got to make it safe and viable for everyone.
We're talking with Michael Monks.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We're gonna stick with Michael for another segment because he's
covering City Hall a lot for KFI News and there's
always some fascinating things that go there. And welcome to
the world of suffering in traffic in southern California. It's
my autobiography, which will never be written. Is at tentatively
entitled second Gear on the four to oh five.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right, we'll be back more than Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI ams.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Michael monsterrom KFI News is here.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Michael was at the City Council this week during this
theatrical is my Word presentation by the now ex fire
chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department, Christian Crowley, who
was removed by the mayor, who appealed it and was
sent back home by a vote of thirteen to two.
I believe it was by the city council. So what's
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all that about. I mean, clearly she knew she didn't
have the required ten votes to get her job back,
but what she just wanted to stick up for herself.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I think what we saw was the end of this story,
and now we move into the next story, which is
what a lot of us have already been talking about,
is the future of the mayor and what do her
political ambitions look like for reelection and that sort of thing.
So we closed this chapter in dramatic fashion. Look, I
love going to city Hall. I love covering every meeting
else while I have to come back here sometimes and
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explain why I think a Planning Commission meeting was really exciting.
I don't get this on, but no, that's what I wait.
But people realize they can go to the public. But
there was no doubt about the stakes and the drama
on Tuesday. I did to sell that at all. So
I mean everybody understood. All of our media people were
all over this thing, and I think a lot in
the city were paying attention to this to see what
was said and whether she could she being the fire chief,
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the former fire she could peel off some votes in
her favor. And the fact that she only got a
couple I think that still speaks to a powerful influence
by Mayor Karen Bass. Because if ever there were a
time to view the mayor as vulnerable politically, and a
council member might feel empowered or emboldened to go against
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the mayor, whereas they would not.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Have before the fires.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
This was the chance, and they still lined up and
supported the mayor's decisions. Some of them offered reasons it
wasn't necessarily where this is the mayor and I support
the mayor. It was the mayor in general has this right.
And two putting this chief back into this position to
work with the mayor who fight her really isn't a
great idea.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It doesn't serve the people of the city.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, and that's my question is that you know, if
you're a member, if you're a victim of the fires,
or you're a concerned Angelino, this side show is not productive.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I think a lot of people are ready to move
on from this saga, like, let's get through this vote,
let's have a let's have a show, give us a
show at city Hall. They gave us the show. There
was high drama, we heard from the fire chief. Everybody
who wanted to speak stated their case. And now what
does the next chapter look like? We are entering a
campaign season very soon for next year.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, we talked about that it's hard to believe that
the primaries in June. Exactly Mayor and the government. That's
exactly right. So we're not far off from this sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Not at all. Now there's a recall effort against Bass.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I mean it's delaying the recovery, the focus on the recovery.
I mean, if I lost my home and I'm living
in a shelter or living in a motel, or my
insurance fortunate enough to pay for a hotel or of
a rental house, It's like, I don't want to hear
about this political squad. I want to hear it like
and to her credit, she is focusing on this, the mayor.
I want to hear, like, what you're doing to help
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me today?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Well, that is the other thing is that in spite
of the public criticism that she's gotten, in criticism from
some in the media about her performance before, after, and
during the fires, the mayor has continued to post as
if she did not suffer any negative public consequences for
the decision to go to Africa or the You know
what she might have said or did not say when
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she got back, if you follow her. So she started
off slow, Yeah, started off slow, but now it's constant
stream of this is what we're doing, this is what
we've done today, and it's as you know, you're in
the media, I'm in the media.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We get her news releases, we.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
See we see your social medias exactly and it's never
it's as if she has suffered no content.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Here's the headline from the La Times. Bass touts speed
of fire recovery and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's what she did, and it is that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So there has been a lot of fast pace and
cleaning up and she may be able to ride that again.
So if we're looking at this from the a lens
of political analysis, what are people thinking about next year
when they're running for.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Office, including her?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The political wins can shift dramatically, you know, by the
time twenty twenty six rolls around, you have a few
bad months and then a year passes and suddenly your
fortunes could be completely different. Of course, that can go
the other way too, But you can't count her out.
She's a skilled politician who's been in the game for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Wide spread.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
But I will note there were some speakers in the
public comment portion of Tuesday's meeting at City Hall who's
spoke in supportive mayor bas and multiple of them suggested
that this criticism of her firing of the fire chief
was based in racism, and that was an angle that
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really had not been explored. I don't think until that meeting.
And so how will that racism and against her against
the black women. Had a white mare fired the fire
chief after this, there would not be this type of
hearing and that.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I've heard that, but that has not gotten a lot
of traction. No, nor do I think it should. To
be honest, it doesn't have to get traction with you.
That's my point is who does that get traction with?
Who does that rile up? Does that play to certain
constituencies that may then rally around the bass to give
her a base to build further support upon should she
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face any serious challenge.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
We don't even know if she has a serious challenge
for Mary yet, Well, the big question mark is Caruso.
I mean, he got beaten by ten points. She beaten
by ten points last time, which is significant. So his
question is a am I going to run be for
mayor or see for governor? And that depends on what
Kamala does. It depends on who Knewsome would support. I mean,
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there's a lot of burials.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But again, me and you, we're just a couple of
guys inside of the California that are trying to like
pay the bills, keep our job, stay relatively happy, you know,
enjoy our.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Our families, you know, live our lives.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Like does it really matter to me, like who the
mayor is, who the governor is. It does in the
obviously in the big picture, but part of it is
me and you, like, you know, we're news junkies.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This is what we live and breathe. The majority of
people out there, Oh Trump got oh yeah, Trump got Yeah,
he did get re elected. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And I heard something about the elon and the fire chief.
I thought she got fired. How does she get to
what do you mean now she's an assistant chief in
the valley?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't I don't get you that.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
In other words, they're not following all the ins and
outs like we are. They just want to know, Like
not to fall back on the cliche, but you know
how much the eggs are going to cost this week?
Or am I going to be paying twenty percent more
for my car?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Well, I mean, I'll just say in defense of media, literacy.
If if you're surprised by the price of eggs, or
if you're surprised by the sales tax going up, if
you're surprised by the state of your own industry, you
wouldn't be if you paid more attention, rightmant.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
People that are listening to us, I say thank you, yeah, exactly,
because they're being proactive.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They want to stay in formed, they want to stay
up to date.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
We've talked before, I've talked on the air about this
sort of like three general categories of people. I don't
know if you would agree with this or maybe add
a fourth one or take one away, but it's like
the news junkies that follow it all full time. Then
there's the people that might have like a special interest
or politics or crime or race or the economy or
whatever it might be, and you've sort of tailor your
consumption of that. And then there's the third group, which
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is I think a growing group, which is just tuned
out because it's overwhelming.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, there's so much news that's out there, and there's
so much information that's out there that is often presented
as news even though it's not, and we have to
compete with that, not just for eyeballs, but for trust,
and it's getting harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I mean, there are folks.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Out there who would not listen to a traditional outlet
like KFI or any of the TV stations or the
newspapers because we've been around a while and they no
longer believe a word that comes out of our mouths.
So instead they'll believe a tweet from random guide dot
six seven who claims to know something insider.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Or a conservative campus activist like Charlie Kirk that Governor
Newsom interviewed on his on his podcast. I mean, not
that he doesn't have a point of view, but you
know who who appointed him Republican spokesperson for the young generation?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Well, that's that's right. He wasn't appointed, but he has
a fall exactly. And it doesn't take It doesn't take
much to build a platform. I mean it takes a
lot of work, of course, and you eventually have to
get some attention.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean technically technically, right, sure, anybody.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Can you know it used to be what for TV stations,
a couple of radio stations chasing the news, and now
anybody with the phone can go live from the scene
of anything.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Everybody's a reporter. Now, yes, that's exactly right. And so
you're competing with a lot which is you know, good
mostly bad.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Citizen journalism is a good thing. But when you hear
influential people like Elon Musk and this is again this
is just me being the journalism student guy talking here,
not not a not a comment on him as in
his government role, but when he says to X people,
people on the social media platform x h, you are
the media. Now, it's partially true. But whether you like
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newspapers or television stations or radio stations or not, there
are certain processes in place that that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That lead to verification of one.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You have to be a responsible consumer of news, yes,
and understand the source that the New York Times isn't
necessarily the same as you know Inland Empire, Tom right,
And so you have to weigh the sources of information,
the origins of the information, and ultimately take in hopefully
a variety of points.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Really should I certainly form your own opinions, that's right.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, it's okay to consume opinion based content or even
ridiculous content on social media, but try to balance it
out because you might lose your mind.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Or you can get closer to that third group, which
is just tuning out and you know, I'm going to
yoga and I'm going to star Bucks and then I'm
going to Whole Foods and having my twelve dollars smoothie,
and then I'm I'm gonna try to pay the rent somehow,
and then you know, leave me alone.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Are there times when you're stuck on the four h
five and second gear and you're thinking, I'm gonna get
out of this business. I'm gonna paint houses and I'm
gonna turn off the radio and I don't want to
hear a news update for the next two years.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That crosses my mind set. Not that I'm not to
my bosses. I'm so grateful for this gig. I got
you what I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
The ups and downs of southern California, especially with what
happened two months ago, they're they're extreme. Michael MUCKs in
the KFI newsroom, Always a pleasure to talk to you.
I'm Phil Shuman with you for about another half hour.
Let me know what you think. On the microphone icon
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Speaker 6 (19:42):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm Phil Schuman in for John today with you till
four o'clock TCJ, Tim Conway Junior leaders coming in then
look forward to visiting with him. We've been covering a
lot of ground today, from the strange gene hack story,
an update on the cause of death, heart disease, and
handed the virus infection weak apart. They're in Santa Fe,
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to stories about the future of the very uncertain future
of California's theoretically high speed rail project. We talked about
the upsetting but not surprising audit which shows billions of
dollars of money designated for helping the homeless is unaccounted for.
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It can't be sort of tied to results. We talked
about the city of Los Angeles clearing the water and
the Pacific Palisades for drinking, for bathing, for using, which
Mayor Bass is touting as record accomplishments. She says she's
committed to rebuilding at lightning speed. We haven't heard that much,
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by comparison, about progress in Alta Dina. The destruction there massive,
but not as widespread as the Palisades, and of course
that's part of Los Angeles County. We know that the
county sued Southern California Edison this week, using them their
high power lines of being the cause of the fire,
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and then by comparison. On a related note, we understand
that again back to the City of Los Angeles, not
to get people confused between the city and the county,
but that when they rebuild the power infrastructure in the Palisades,
they've committed to putting the electrical transmission lines underground, which
is the way it's done now, which costs anywhere from
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a million dollars to four million dollars a mile, and
there's at least eighty miles there, and no one has
explained exactly who's going to pay for that, except of
course you and I the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So things are moving forward.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
The Dodgers, you may have heard, announced that they're going
to be building a couple of baseball fields in Altadena
through the very impressive Los Angeles Dodgers Foundation. I'm Phil
Shuman from Fox eleven News. Been covering these kinds of
things for a long time here in Southern California, and
it's interesting for me to get to share some of
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what I think about these things, because usually, you know,
I'm just playing it pretty much straight down the middle
of the road and reporting the news and both sides
or multiple sides of any given story, without you know,
adding in any personal thoughts. But this is a little
bit of an opportunity to broaden my horizons. But I
also want to hear what you think. And you've been
nice enough to record some of those messages on the
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iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Let's listen to one.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Now, Hey, if you were a second year on the
four h five, you must be driving a nineteen seventy
five B two ten.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's a Dawson for you millennials. I'm not driving, but
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I mean, when I first moved to southern California, I
believe it was sometime in the nineteen eighties, I had
a I had been driving a stick manual transmission, and
you quickly realized that unless you want to be burning
out your clutch, you need to graduate from that to
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the automatic transition. So the second gear on the four
oh five is obviously tongue in cheap, but it makes
the point that when you're on that four oh five,
oh first gear, second gear, and then what about mass transit?
We were talking with Michael Monks about Metro and a
bunch of related issues in the previous segment.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Something we've talked about here before.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
They still are struggling with the plan to put mass
transit through this Supulveta pass. It's kind of like the
holy grail of getting people back and forth from the
valley to the west side without sitting on that four
h five. You remember what was it called Deborah years
ago Karma Geddon when they they destroyed the overpass and
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rebuilt some bridges and widen the freeways, and ultimately it didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Accomplish a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But now we're talking about maybe even a monorail through
the subpulvent of pass connecting say the Brentwood area to
the Van Eyes area.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Hey, whatever they can do, I'm all for it. What else?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What else do we have? Elmer?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes? Will it be possible to find out the individuals
who are in charge of those moneies? Are those funds
from the homeless program? And will any of these individuals
be held accountable or prosecuted if discovered that they stole
the money?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
In fact?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Can we get names of those individuals and who hired
all these individuals. Thank you enjoyed the show.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's in reference to the story we had earlier about
the very the audit of Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority,
which administers money from the city, which administers money from
the county, which found a lack of accountability for billions
of dollars with the potential for fraud or waste or abuse.
No one's accusing anyone of stealing the money, but Los
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Angeles Homeless Services Authority, the director's appointed by the mayor,
It has a board, And I guess the short answer
to your question is, we certainly would be able to
find out who's in charge, and if there is anything.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Illegal that who would be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But it's really more a question of efficiency than any
possible criminal activity at this point, do we have another one?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
You say it's a complicated situation. How come it wasn't
complicated twenty years ago? Because the police would move you along.
You weren't allowed to camp wherever you wanted. We didn't
give you a free cell phone, we didn't give you
free drugs, we didn't give you free alcohol, cigarettes, whatever
your heart desired. We made it tough on them, and
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they pulled their poop together. They should either be in
jail or they should get drug rehab and help.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Fix well A.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's not a crime to be homeless, so you can't
arrest somebody for being homeless. You can certainly arrest somebody
for loitering. You can arrest somebody for drug dealing, You
can arrest somebody for violence, You can arrest somebody you
know for a variety of things. But our political leaders
have chosen to be more compassionate than that. And if
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you arrest somebody, where are you going to bring them?
You're going to bring them to county jail when they
need drug or alcohol treatment. So there's not enough drug
or alcohol treatment centers. Yes, life was maybe simpler twenty
years ago. Maybe that's too short a timeframe, maybe forty
years ago, but the cost of housing, air in southern California,
and a variety of other factors have contributed to the
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rise of homeless given. Yes, agreed, drug and alcohol abuse
a huge part of it. But that's why I say
it's complicated, and that's why everybody, most that that studied
this issue agrees it's complicated because there aren't enough facilities
to treat the people who need the treatment, and yes,
we have been too lenient in letting people quote choose
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to stay.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
On the street. All right.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I mean I could talk about this endlessly and a
lot of times I feel like we're going around in circles.
But I think we agree that the current approach, while
well intended, is not as successful as it could be.
I mean, if Rick Caruso had been elected mayor rather
than Karen Bass, would things be significantly different today than
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they are. I don't know that I could say yes
to that question. All right, we have one more segment left.
Hopefully we'll get a visit from Timmy.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm Phil Shuman, Thanks for joining for joining in this
discussion for the passed a few hours. Been with you
since one o'clock, sitting in for John today, who has
a well deserved Friday off. Tim Conway Juniors come in
and we spent a lot of time talking about upsetting
issues and I'm sorry, but that's part of what we
do here, whether it's the audit that reveals like a
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lack of accountability and billions of dollars for treating the homelessness,
the futility of the high speed Reil program, this bizarre
death of Gene Hackman and his wife, perhaps as much
as a week apart in Santa Fe, New Mexico. The
fire department, the chief getting fired, appealing unsuccessfully for her
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job back La City Fire. But here's one thing we
can all agree on. The Dodgers are going to be great.
In fact, did you know that the Dodgers are actually
starting their season? A lot of people haven't focused on
this on yet, is that the Dodgers are starting their
season in Tokyo. They're going to play two games against
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the Cubs. That's start. I mean that count rather on
March eighteenth and nineteenth, the Tokyo Series. It's the latest
installment in what they call in the MLB's World Tour.
San Diego started the season last month last year, and
Soul the Mets were in London, and so that's kind
of cool something to look forward to. Dodgers pretty much
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guaranteed to win the World Series again already at this
point in the season. And then how about the Lakers.
I don't know if you saw the Lakers game last
night against the Knicks. They came back, they won I
think they're eighth in a row. There was a really
interesting scene where Lebron, who you know, if you listen
to me here, I love Lebron and forgive me for
you that find ways to criticize him them your way
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off base.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He had it out with Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Smith, apparently Steven who feels the need to you know,
don't even get me started on Steven A feels the
need to justify his existence.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Pretty much twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Has been calling out the Browny Lebron situation, saying that
the only and Brownie's in the league is because of
his dad, and he insisted the Lakers draft him. I say, great,
good that he's in the league. They got twelve players,
they can afford to have the number twelve guy, but
not the greatest. But then Steven A, I mean, the
story about him. He's going to be making Tim Conway
junior money. I think he's about to sign a five
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year contract as in ESPN right for one hundred million dollars.
I mean, what world exists where Steven A Smith, who
you know, does a good job and has a strong
following and a point of view and a personality. It's
worth twenty million dollars and my kid's teacher is worth
you know, sixty grand a year.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
All right, I raised that question hypothetically.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
But also maybe Tim Conway Junior gong with you, buddy,
is able to weigh in on that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I look, the Lakers have won eight in a row. Ye,
who cares who's on the team?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, it's a good his mom could be on the
team if they're running eight in a row, nine in
a row?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, is the twelfth man gonna be the difference
between victory and defeat?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I don't think so, right, But Steven A.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Smith is really good at getting people to watch his
show because he wants people to either love him or
hate him. He doesn't want anyone in between. And he
does and has a point of view. Yes, But initially
he got that that reputation, and he decided to attack
America's football team, the Cowboys, and he went after the
Cowboys every year, every season, every week, and he got
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those those Cowboy fans so pissed off that it just exploded.
So he knows how to get people to watch and listen.
And that's why signing one hundred million.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Dollars I mean that's what it's about, right, You got
the ratings, you got the followers. I mean, I don't
spend a lot of time listening to the sports talk
on radio or TV. I mean, I'm a huge sports fan,
as you know. I mean I read the La Time
Sports page.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I love it. But I don't know, I don't know.
Were you a Jim Murray guy, huge Jim Murray guy.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I remember Jim Murray used to be a columnist for
the La Times, and I used to go, even in
seventh grade. We take the beach by from the valley
down to uh Sherman Oaks, then to Westwood end of
the you know, it's three transfers to get to the beach.
But we were you know, thirteen fourteen, you know, and
you could ride the bus back then.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And I'd show up at the beach.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
All my friends would be chasing girls around and playing
football and then eventually later on smoking weed, and I'd
be reading Jimmie Times, reading Jim Murray beach yeah right,
And and a buddy of mine said, why do you
read the newspaper? Those stories change all the time. I'm like, well,
that's why you read it. Yeah, yeah, I mean we're
fortunate enough. I mean I talk about the La Times
a lot here.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I mean Bill Plashki's world class, and then you know
Steve Lopez, Gustavo Ariana, Robin ab Carry and I mean
they've they were kind of a shadow of what they
used to be in terms of circulation and also influence,
I think. But still on a day to day basis,
especially with these fires and the homelessest issue and the
whole political scene, they do a great job.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I really think they do a great Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Right, I think they could do a little deeper dive
into city hall.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What do you what do you read in the Conway
Family Newsletter? Read the racing form?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
But you know, nobody holds city hall to the fire,
to the feet to the fire in this town.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Now they're trying to.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
But I mean the stories that come out there's no consequences.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's why, because nobody ever does it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean, there was a story that came out today.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
I don't know if you saw this today, but there
was a story that came out today.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I said to John colebolts right up his alley.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Yeah, And the title or the lead was searing adult audit,
searing audit find City Hall has failed in properly tracking
billions of dollars for homeless.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right, we did that. They don't know where the money
is well?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Which and then so why isn't the head of LASA,
Lavish Adams Kellum fired.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Nobody's calling for her resignation.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Nobody gets fired in city Hall or in the supervisors.
The fire chief got fired, right, the fire chief got fired.
But none of these officials, they don't get fired. They
go to jail occasionally. But look, you know, up and
during COVID, you remember this, the state lost thirty billion
dollars to fraud for the Unemployment Department. Not one person
was fired or reprimanded, not one, not a single person.
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It's that's thirty billion dollars. The City of Los Angeles
is their their budget shortfall next year is one hundred
and forty seven million dollars. It's gonna get worse too,
because you're not gonna get the property tax from you know,
the burned out homes. There's a lot of businesses that
have been shut down. You're not going to get that tax.
And a lot of production in Hollywood's been shut down,
and sales of homes.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
So now that you have us depressed, what do you
what do you got coming up after? For Yeah, your
buddy Alex Mike Eleckson man, all right, he's does he
have a.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
New interview with the governor?
Speaker 8 (34:46):
You know he hasn't he it's it's odd. It's Charlie
Kirk odd. Yeah, he sort of Charlie Kirks, but he
knows how it all went down. Yeah, and he interviewed
Charlie Kirk. Right, Yeah, he interviewed Charlie Kirk. But Michael
Monks is coming on with us as well, and so
Michael Monks on four to thirty five, Alex Michaelson at
five oh five, and then we have Gene Hackman. I'm
sure he did that. Yeah, we covered that. Very strange
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and she was there for a week before he died.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And what does that mean he was unable to do
anything because of his advanced age and state. We don't
and we may never know because there but dead.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
I'm gonna get a lot of crap for this, but
at the end of a guy's life, he's really difficult
to be around.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Guys are not good at the end.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
At ninety five between George Carlin said between eighty and
ninety it is not a good decade for men. This
guy was five years north of that. So I'm sure
they hated each other, the two of them, right had
to have because you know, all of a sudden, she's
a full time nurse for the last ten years, and
so it was probably a complicated relationship.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They didn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
You know, you couldn't be gone for two weeks without
somebody checking on you. I couldn't be gone for tenfing
minutes without somebody checking it on me.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Oh wow, yeah, Hey, I'm you know what, I'm going
to the Clippers game tonight, so I'll be listening on
the way there.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Oh, that's cool. They're playing.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
They're playing the Knicks. Wow without Brunson who got hurt
last night?
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And how about this next Laker game Boston tomorrow, Boston Laker.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
If you were the finals? Is that here or there?
It's there?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh no, But this is an exciting time to be
a sports fan. Sports adds so much to us and
it brings us together. Tim it's by and the King.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
The Kings made a trade too, they got a journeyman
guy from Russia.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So I'm sure that'll work out.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
And look, the Dodgers, the Rams, everybody's trying to win
a championship around here. You know, sometimes you live in
cities where they don't try to win championships, like Anaheim,
Saint Louis. You know, I San Diego. San Diego has
never won a championship in anything, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, nothing,
not one championship, nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And we've had like nine hundred of them here.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
All Right, I'm gonna have to that Tim, Tim Conway's
coming up. After checking in with Michael Trojan the KFI
twenty four newsroom.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Hey, you've been listening to The Cobalt Show podcast. You
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App sitting in for John Cobelt. Thank you so much.
Ten years ago or more maybe eleven years ago. Who
remembers the name Neil cash Carry. Neil cash Carrey was
a Republican candidate for governor who ended up getting beaten
badly by Jerry Brown. You remember Jerry Brown, and so
I remember interviewing him in the newsroom at Fox eleven
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and we were talking about the high speed rail and
he said, you know, I travel across California all the
time and people say to me, you know, how can
I get from Los Angeles to San Francisco faster? But
not one person ever said to me, this is cash
Carry talking. I wish I could get on a train
in Anaheim and end up in San Francisco, for example,
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as opposed to you know, going to the airport and
hopping on Southwest and getting there in a fraction of
the time. So since then, we've spent countless billions on
the high speed rail project. It's something that present and
Trump and his new administration is reviewing this week. California
Congressman Kevin Kyleie formerly requested that the FBI opened an
investigation into it. So I'm joined by Michael Monks from
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KFI News, who's been covering this story. What is the
latest on where things stand with this project?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, the board of the California High Speed Rail Authority
met yesterday and this was their first board meeting since
the FED showed up at Union Station in downtown LA
and said we think we're going to shut down this
gravy train that you've been enjoying for many years. In fact,
the latest amount of money that was promised by the
Biden administration was about four billion dollars, money that the
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rail Authority says is needed to continue work just in
the Central Valley portion of this long project.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's as far as they've gotten.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
By the way, we are not going from Anaheim and
San Francisco yet, we are not even going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I missed to remind our listeners right. It was back
in eight, two thousand and eight Proposition one A. It
was called San Francis go to Los Angeles, thirty three
billion dollars done. Like in ten years, we're nowhere near done.
The price tag is more than one hundred and twenty
billion in counting.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yes, the price tag is about the budget for the
whole thing is about one hundred billion dollars more than
what we were first told when this project, you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Know, what's one hundred billion? What is it anymore?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
This this economy, it's nothing. Yeah, but that's what people
are starting there.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So why are we even still having this discussion.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
That's what's especially with Trump and Doge and Junior President
Elon Musk, you know, cutting things, you know, mercilessly like
this would be like an obvious and they have clearly
set their sights on it. They've they've got a formal
review about specifically the four billion dollars, and that could
go farther. You mentioned Congressman Kylie and his requires is
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basically a criminal investment. It's not a federal project, its
federal fund. Federal the federal government is involved.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Most of the money has come from the state, so
it is still taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's just a you and I are paying for this, correct, exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
And I think more people are wondering, especially people who
were excited about this. You know, you might not think
there are a lot of people, but it would be
nice to hop on a train that could get you
to San Francisco in just a few hours. And there
was clearly a demand for it, because this had to
get electoral approval originally, and it got it. But I
imagine if this thing we're back on the ballot from pain,
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we please keep doing it, it would overwhelmingly lose.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And maybe that's where.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So let's say, whether it's a month from now or
a year from now, they pull the plug on this thing,
then we've got the you've heard the proverbial train to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I've been there.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
We covered it in Merceid, Fresno, Bakersfield. I mean, there's
tracks there, there's infrastructure there.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So what do you do? You just abandon it?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Do you say I can go from Bakersfield to Mercede
on a train?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now, congratulations, we might get.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
To that point, but there are no trains from Bakersfield
to merced that are our high speed right, Like, none
of this stuff is going now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Some of this project does use existing tracks.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But what we learned from the board at yesterday's meeting, okay,
they seemed almost unfazed by what the federal government had
to say. We already know that the real authority came
out and said we welcome this review. We know that
all of the money is account They're everything exactly. It's
just been an expensive project, more so than we thought.
It's been slower than we thought. But the CEO ian
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Ian Chowdry just said, you know, look, it will delay
us further and it will make the project more expensive
if we don't get the federal money. But we are
working on ways to proceed even without it through the
private sector and through state means.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So have they said did they say at the meeting,
like like sort of best case scenario, like when I like, well,
I have great grandchildren by then, but.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
By the time you're going from La to San Francisco,
I don't know if you if you have grandchildren yet.
So I don't know what the timeline looks like on
that front, but it's possible. But they want to have
that first Central Valley portion open. It would basically be
about thirteen years after the entire project was supposed to
be done, all right, Like the whole thing was supposed
to have been opened five years ago. We were supposed
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to already be on trains from Anaheim to San Francisco
five years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
But the board portrays this as really like an economics
job creation program, not like an over budget disaster, you know, right,
So and then so how do you how do you
then criticize that if it's you know, I think their
term was economic engine.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I mean, because even though we're not taking trains, there
is work happening, there's digging, there's building, there's sixteen hundred
jobs connected to this thing. And I know in your
other line of work in television, you might be familiar
with the term sizzle reel. This is something where you
put the highlights right to sell yourself. Well, they had
a sizzle reel play at this board meeting yesterday from
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some meeting that they had had with a bunch of
you know, showing what showing construction economic impact that this
thing has had and will continue to have if it
is allowed to proceed. And what struck me the most
at the meeting wasn't just the comments by the CEO
the optimism. It was from the board members themselves that
also govern this thing, and that they they believe, they
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still believe fully in this project. There was no sense
of remorse and how long it has taken, and no
real sense of urgency to address what President Trump and
Secretary Duffy had to say about it in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, I guess in a perfect world, if you
said to people, would you rather have a train or
not to go from Anaheim slash LA to San Francisco,
People's yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Be a nice option, but not at this costactly.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That's right, because you do have to weigh the cost benefit,
and it's the same.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
What also strikes me is that it's just it's just
sad that we're even having this discussion.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
You know, we should we should be better at this.
It's similar, I think to Metro Los Angeles. Obviously, Metro
Los Angeles is up and running. There are subways and
trains that run, and I'm I'm a big fan of
riding trains, and I don't drive a lot in Los
Angeles until recently. I'm driving up here to the station
a lot more than I used to. Instead I would
hop around on the trains. I'll tell you, driving in
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Los Angeles is everything that they warn you about.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm not a native.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I've been here two years, okay, and so it is
everything they say it is, and it changes you while
you're on the road. I mean, there are times I
am so inexplicably achingry right now about just how long
it's taking to go anywhere, and like the trains would
make sense, but we have to sell those trains to
more people, and you can't do that when they feel unsafe,
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when they're dirty, when they're not reliable, and when they
aren't going to places that you need them to go.
And so it's a losing argument for public transportation when
you evaluate metros overall results, and it's a losing argument
for public transportation with this project.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, you're in a good situation because you have the
option of using a car. So many people that are
on the subway, on the the bus do it because
they have to, that's right, not because they That is
what a lot of people would say to the board
members at Metro when we would address danger and that
sort of thing is that you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Know, there are folks whose only mode of transmit This
is not some luxury. You know, if you want to
hop on and go down to Long Beach for the
day or Santa Monica, you know, just because you don't
worry about parking, that's one thing. But the housekeeper who
has to take the bus to the train and Azusa
down to wherever I mean, that's a completely different situation.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You've got to make it safe and viable for everyone.
We're talking with Michael Monks.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We're gonna stick with Michael for another segment because he's
covering City Hall a lot for KFI News and there's
always some fascinating things that go there. And welcome to
the world of suffering in traffic in southern California. It's
my autobiography, which will never be written. Is at tentatively
entitled second Gear on the four to oh five.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right, we'll be back more than Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI ams.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Michael monsterrom KFI News is here.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Michael was at the City Council this week during this
theatrical is my Word presentation by the now ex fire
chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department, Christian Crowley, who
was removed by the mayor, who appealed it and was
sent back home by a vote of thirteen to two.
I believe it was by the city council. So what's
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all that about. I mean, clearly she knew she didn't
have the required ten votes to get her job back,
but what she just wanted to stick up for herself.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I think what we saw was the end of this story,
and now we move into the next story, which is
what a lot of us have already been talking about,
is the future of the mayor and what do her
political ambitions look like for reelection and that sort of thing.
So we closed this chapter in dramatic fashion. Look, I
love going to city Hall. I love covering every meeting
else while I have to come back here sometimes and
(09:56):
explain why I think a Planning Commission meeting was really exciting.
I don't get this on, but no, that's what I wait.
But people realize they can go to the public. But
there was no doubt about the stakes and the drama
on Tuesday. I did to sell that at all. So
I mean everybody understood. All of our media people were
all over this thing, and I think a lot in
the city were paying attention to this to see what
was said and whether she could she being the fire chief,
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the former fire she could peel off some votes in
her favor. And the fact that she only got a
couple I think that still speaks to a powerful influence
by Mayor Karen Bass. Because if ever there were a
time to view the mayor as vulnerable politically, and a
council member might feel empowered or emboldened to go against
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the mayor, whereas they would not.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Have before the fires.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
This was the chance, and they still lined up and
supported the mayor's decisions. Some of them offered reasons it
wasn't necessarily where this is the mayor and I support
the mayor. It was the mayor in general has this right.
And two putting this chief back into this position to
work with the mayor who fight her really isn't a
great idea.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It doesn't serve the people of the city.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, and that's my question is that you know, if
you're a member, if you're a victim of the fires,
or you're a concerned Angelino, this side show is not productive.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I think a lot of people are ready to move
on from this saga, like, let's get through this vote,
let's have a let's have a show, give us a
show at city Hall. They gave us the show. There
was high drama, we heard from the fire chief. Everybody
who wanted to speak stated their case. And now what
does the next chapter look like? We are entering a
campaign season very soon for next year.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, we talked about that it's hard to believe that
the primaries in June. Exactly Mayor and the government. That's
exactly right. So we're not far off from this sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Not at all. Now there's a recall effort against Bass.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I mean it's delaying the recovery, the focus on the recovery.
I mean, if I lost my home and I'm living
in a shelter or living in a motel, or my
insurance fortunate enough to pay for a hotel or of
a rental house, It's like, I don't want to hear
about this political squad. I want to hear it like
and to her credit, she is focusing on this, the mayor.
I want to hear, like, what you're doing to help
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me today?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Well, that is the other thing is that in spite
of the public criticism that she's gotten, in criticism from
some in the media about her performance before, after, and
during the fires, the mayor has continued to post as
if she did not suffer any negative public consequences for
the decision to go to Africa or the You know
what she might have said or did not say when
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she got back, if you follow her. So she started
off slow, Yeah, started off slow, but now it's constant
stream of this is what we're doing, this is what
we've done today, and it's as you know, you're in
the media, I'm in the media.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We get her news releases, we.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
See we see your social medias exactly and it's never
it's as if she has suffered no content.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Here's the headline from the La Times. Bass touts speed
of fire recovery and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's what she did, and it is that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So there has been a lot of fast pace and
cleaning up and she may be able to ride that again.
So if we're looking at this from the a lens
of political analysis, what are people thinking about next year
when they're running for.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Office, including her?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The political wins can shift dramatically, you know, by the
time twenty twenty six rolls around, you have a few
bad months and then a year passes and suddenly your
fortunes could be completely different. Of course, that can go
the other way too, But you can't count her out.
She's a skilled politician who's been in the game for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Wide spread.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
But I will note there were some speakers in the
public comment portion of Tuesday's meeting at City Hall who's
spoke in supportive mayor bas and multiple of them suggested
that this criticism of her firing of the fire chief
was based in racism, and that was an angle that
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really had not been explored. I don't think until that meeting.
And so how will that racism and against her against
the black women. Had a white mare fired the fire
chief after this, there would not be this type of
hearing and that.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I've heard that, but that has not gotten a lot
of traction. No, nor do I think it should. To
be honest, it doesn't have to get traction with you.
That's my point is who does that get traction with?
Who does that rile up? Does that play to certain
constituencies that may then rally around the bass to give
her a base to build further support upon should she
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face any serious challenge.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
We don't even know if she has a serious challenge
for Mary yet, Well, the big question mark is Caruso.
I mean, he got beaten by ten points. She beaten
by ten points last time, which is significant. So his
question is a am I going to run be for
mayor or see for governor? And that depends on what
Kamala does. It depends on who Knewsome would support. I mean,
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there's a lot of burials.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But again, me and you, we're just a couple of
guys inside of the California that are trying to like
pay the bills, keep our job, stay relatively happy, you know,
enjoy our.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Our families, you know, live our lives.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Like does it really matter to me, like who the
mayor is, who the governor is. It does in the
obviously in the big picture, but part of it is
me and you, like, you know, we're news junkies.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This is what we live and breathe. The majority of
people out there, Oh Trump got oh yeah, Trump got Yeah,
he did get re elected. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And I heard something about the elon and the fire chief.
I thought she got fired. How does she get to
what do you mean now she's an assistant chief in
the valley?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't I don't get you that.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
In other words, they're not following all the ins and
outs like we are. They just want to know, Like
not to fall back on the cliche, but you know
how much the eggs are going to cost this week?
Or am I going to be paying twenty percent more
for my car?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Well, I mean, I'll just say in defense of media, literacy.
If if you're surprised by the price of eggs, or
if you're surprised by the sales tax going up, if
you're surprised by the state of your own industry, you
wouldn't be if you paid more attention, rightmant.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
People that are listening to us, I say thank you, yeah, exactly,
because they're being proactive.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They want to stay in formed, they want to stay
up to date.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
We've talked before, I've talked on the air about this
sort of like three general categories of people. I don't
know if you would agree with this or maybe add
a fourth one or take one away, but it's like
the news junkies that follow it all full time. Then
there's the people that might have like a special interest
or politics or crime or race or the economy or
whatever it might be, and you've sort of tailor your
consumption of that. And then there's the third group, which
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is I think a growing group, which is just tuned
out because it's overwhelming.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, there's so much news that's out there, and there's
so much information that's out there that is often presented
as news even though it's not, and we have to
compete with that, not just for eyeballs, but for trust,
and it's getting harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I mean, there are folks.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Out there who would not listen to a traditional outlet
like KFI or any of the TV stations or the
newspapers because we've been around a while and they no
longer believe a word that comes out of our mouths.
So instead they'll believe a tweet from random guide dot
six seven who claims to know something insider.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Or a conservative campus activist like Charlie Kirk that Governor
Newsom interviewed on his on his podcast. I mean, not
that he doesn't have a point of view, but you
know who who appointed him Republican spokesperson for the young generation?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Well, that's that's right. He wasn't appointed, but he has
a fall exactly. And it doesn't take It doesn't take
much to build a platform. I mean it takes a
lot of work, of course, and you eventually have to
get some attention.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean technically technically, right, sure, anybody.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Can you know it used to be what for TV stations,
a couple of radio stations chasing the news, and now
anybody with the phone can go live from the scene
of anything.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Everybody's a reporter. Now, yes, that's exactly right. And so
you're competing with a lot which is you know, good
mostly bad.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Citizen journalism is a good thing. But when you hear
influential people like Elon Musk and this is again this
is just me being the journalism student guy talking here,
not not a not a comment on him as in
his government role, but when he says to X people,
people on the social media platform x h, you are
the media. Now, it's partially true. But whether you like
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newspapers or television stations or radio stations or not, there
are certain processes in place that that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That lead to verification of one.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You have to be a responsible consumer of news, yes,
and understand the source that the New York Times isn't
necessarily the same as you know Inland Empire, Tom right,
And so you have to weigh the sources of information,
the origins of the information, and ultimately take in hopefully
a variety of points.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Really should I certainly form your own opinions, that's right.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, it's okay to consume opinion based content or even
ridiculous content on social media, but try to balance it
out because you might lose your mind.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Or you can get closer to that third group, which
is just tuning out and you know, I'm going to
yoga and I'm going to star Bucks and then I'm
going to Whole Foods and having my twelve dollars smoothie,
and then I'm I'm gonna try to pay the rent somehow,
and then you know, leave me alone.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Are there times when you're stuck on the four h
five and second gear and you're thinking, I'm gonna get
out of this business. I'm gonna paint houses and I'm
gonna turn off the radio and I don't want to
hear a news update for the next two years.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That crosses my mind set. Not that I'm not to
my bosses. I'm so grateful for this gig. I got
you what I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
The ups and downs of southern California, especially with what
happened two months ago, they're they're extreme. Michael MUCKs in
the KFI newsroom, Always a pleasure to talk to you.
I'm Phil Shuman with you for about another half hour.
Let me know what you think. On the microphone icon
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm Phil Schuman in for John today with you till
four o'clock TCJ, Tim Conway Junior leaders coming in then
look forward to visiting with him. We've been covering a
lot of ground today, from the strange gene hack story,
an update on the cause of death, heart disease, and
handed the virus infection weak apart. They're in Santa Fe,
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to stories about the future of the very uncertain future
of California's theoretically high speed rail project. We talked about
the upsetting but not surprising audit which shows billions of
dollars of money designated for helping the homeless is unaccounted for.
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It can't be sort of tied to results. We talked
about the city of Los Angeles clearing the water and
the Pacific Palisades for drinking, for bathing, for using, which
Mayor Bass is touting as record accomplishments. She says she's
committed to rebuilding at lightning speed. We haven't heard that much,
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by comparison, about progress in Alta Dina. The destruction there massive,
but not as widespread as the Palisades, and of course
that's part of Los Angeles County. We know that the
county sued Southern California Edison this week, using them their
high power lines of being the cause of the fire,
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and then by comparison. On a related note, we understand
that again back to the City of Los Angeles, not
to get people confused between the city and the county,
but that when they rebuild the power infrastructure in the Palisades,
they've committed to putting the electrical transmission lines underground, which
is the way it's done now, which costs anywhere from
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a million dollars to four million dollars a mile, and
there's at least eighty miles there, and no one has
explained exactly who's going to pay for that, except of
course you and I the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So things are moving forward.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
The Dodgers, you may have heard, announced that they're going
to be building a couple of baseball fields in Altadena
through the very impressive Los Angeles Dodgers Foundation. I'm Phil
Shuman from Fox eleven News. Been covering these kinds of
things for a long time here in Southern California, and
it's interesting for me to get to share some of
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what I think about these things, because usually, you know,
I'm just playing it pretty much straight down the middle
of the road and reporting the news and both sides
or multiple sides of any given story, without you know,
adding in any personal thoughts. But this is a little
bit of an opportunity to broaden my horizons. But I
also want to hear what you think. And you've been
nice enough to record some of those messages on the
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iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Let's listen to one.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Now, Hey, if you were a second year on the
four h five, you must be driving a nineteen seventy
five B two ten.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's a Dawson for you millennials. I'm not driving, but
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I mean, when I first moved to southern California, I
believe it was sometime in the nineteen eighties, I had
a I had been driving a stick manual transmission, and
you quickly realized that unless you want to be burning
out your clutch, you need to graduate from that to
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the automatic transition. So the second gear on the four
oh five is obviously tongue in cheap, but it makes
the point that when you're on that four oh five,
oh first gear, second gear, and then what about mass transit?
We were talking with Michael Monks about Metro and a
bunch of related issues in the previous segment.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Something we've talked about here before.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
They still are struggling with the plan to put mass
transit through this Supulveta pass. It's kind of like the
holy grail of getting people back and forth from the
valley to the west side without sitting on that four
h five. You remember what was it called Deborah years
ago Karma Geddon when they they destroyed the overpass and
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rebuilt some bridges and widen the freeways, and ultimately it didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Accomplish a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But now we're talking about maybe even a monorail through
the subpulvent of pass connecting say the Brentwood area to
the Van Eyes area.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Hey, whatever they can do, I'm all for it. What else?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What else do we have? Elmer?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes? Will it be possible to find out the individuals
who are in charge of those moneies? Are those funds
from the homeless program? And will any of these individuals
be held accountable or prosecuted if discovered that they stole
the money?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
In fact?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Can we get names of those individuals and who hired
all these individuals. Thank you enjoyed the show.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's in reference to the story we had earlier about
the very the audit of Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority,
which administers money from the city, which administers money from
the county, which found a lack of accountability for billions
of dollars with the potential for fraud or waste or abuse.
No one's accusing anyone of stealing the money, but Los
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Angeles Homeless Services Authority, the director's appointed by the mayor,
It has a board, And I guess the short answer
to your question is, we certainly would be able to
find out who's in charge, and if there is anything.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Illegal that who would be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But it's really more a question of efficiency than any
possible criminal activity at this point, do we have another one?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
You say it's a complicated situation. How come it wasn't
complicated twenty years ago? Because the police would move you along.
You weren't allowed to camp wherever you wanted. We didn't
give you a free cell phone, we didn't give you
free drugs, we didn't give you free alcohol, cigarettes, whatever
your heart desired. We made it tough on them, and
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they pulled their poop together. They should either be in
jail or they should get drug rehab and help.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Fix well A.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's not a crime to be homeless, so you can't
arrest somebody for being homeless. You can certainly arrest somebody
for loitering. You can arrest somebody for drug dealing, You
can arrest somebody for violence, You can arrest somebody you
know for a variety of things. But our political leaders
have chosen to be more compassionate than that. And if
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you arrest somebody, where are you going to bring them?
You're going to bring them to county jail when they
need drug or alcohol treatment. So there's not enough drug
or alcohol treatment centers. Yes, life was maybe simpler twenty
years ago. Maybe that's too short a timeframe, maybe forty
years ago, but the cost of housing, air in southern California,
and a variety of other factors have contributed to the
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rise of homeless given. Yes, agreed, drug and alcohol abuse
a huge part of it. But that's why I say
it's complicated, and that's why everybody, most that that studied
this issue agrees it's complicated because there aren't enough facilities
to treat the people who need the treatment, and yes,
we have been too lenient in letting people quote choose
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to stay.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
On the street. All right.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I mean I could talk about this endlessly and a
lot of times I feel like we're going around in circles.
But I think we agree that the current approach, while
well intended, is not as successful as it could be.
I mean, if Rick Caruso had been elected mayor rather
than Karen Bass, would things be significantly different today than
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they are. I don't know that I could say yes
to that question. All right, we have one more segment left.
Hopefully we'll get a visit from Timmy.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm Phil Shuman, Thanks for joining for joining in this
discussion for the passed a few hours. Been with you
since one o'clock, sitting in for John today, who has
a well deserved Friday off. Tim Conway Juniors come in
and we spent a lot of time talking about upsetting
issues and I'm sorry, but that's part of what we
do here, whether it's the audit that reveals like a
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lack of accountability and billions of dollars for treating the homelessness,
the futility of the high speed Reil program, this bizarre
death of Gene Hackman and his wife, perhaps as much
as a week apart in Santa Fe, New Mexico. The
fire department, the chief getting fired, appealing unsuccessfully for her
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job back La City Fire. But here's one thing we
can all agree on. The Dodgers are going to be great.
In fact, did you know that the Dodgers are actually
starting their season? A lot of people haven't focused on
this on yet, is that the Dodgers are starting their
season in Tokyo. They're going to play two games against
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the Cubs. That's start. I mean that count rather on
March eighteenth and nineteenth, the Tokyo Series. It's the latest
installment in what they call in the MLB's World Tour.
San Diego started the season last month last year, and
Soul the Mets were in London, and so that's kind
of cool something to look forward to. Dodgers pretty much
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guaranteed to win the World Series again already at this
point in the season. And then how about the Lakers.
I don't know if you saw the Lakers game last
night against the Knicks. They came back, they won I
think they're eighth in a row. There was a really
interesting scene where Lebron, who you know, if you listen
to me here, I love Lebron and forgive me for
you that find ways to criticize him them your way
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off base.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He had it out with Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Smith, apparently Steven who feels the need to you know,
don't even get me started on Steven A feels the
need to justify his existence.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Pretty much twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Has been calling out the Browny Lebron situation, saying that
the only and Brownie's in the league is because of
his dad, and he insisted the Lakers draft him. I say, great,
good that he's in the league. They got twelve players,
they can afford to have the number twelve guy, but
not the greatest. But then Steven A, I mean, the
story about him. He's going to be making Tim Conway
junior money. I think he's about to sign a five
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year contract as in ESPN right for one hundred million dollars.
I mean, what world exists where Steven A Smith, who
you know, does a good job and has a strong
following and a point of view and a personality. It's
worth twenty million dollars and my kid's teacher is worth
you know, sixty grand a year.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
All right, I raised that question hypothetically.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
But also maybe Tim Conway Junior gong with you, buddy,
is able to weigh in on that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I look, the Lakers have won eight in a row. Ye,
who cares who's on the team?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, it's a good his mom could be on the
team if they're running eight in a row, nine in
a row?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, is the twelfth man gonna be the difference
between victory and defeat?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I don't think so, right, But Steven A.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Smith is really good at getting people to watch his
show because he wants people to either love him or
hate him. He doesn't want anyone in between. And he
does and has a point of view. Yes, But initially
he got that that reputation, and he decided to attack
America's football team, the Cowboys, and he went after the
Cowboys every year, every season, every week, and he got
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those those Cowboy fans so pissed off that it just exploded.
So he knows how to get people to watch and listen.
And that's why signing one hundred million.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Dollars I mean that's what it's about, right, You got
the ratings, you got the followers. I mean, I don't
spend a lot of time listening to the sports talk
on radio or TV. I mean, I'm a huge sports fan,
as you know. I mean I read the La Time
Sports page.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I love it. But I don't know, I don't know.
Were you a Jim Murray guy, huge Jim Murray guy.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I remember Jim Murray used to be a columnist for
the La Times, and I used to go, even in
seventh grade. We take the beach by from the valley
down to uh Sherman Oaks, then to Westwood end of
the you know, it's three transfers to get to the beach.
But we were you know, thirteen fourteen, you know, and
you could ride the bus back then.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And I'd show up at the beach.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
All my friends would be chasing girls around and playing
football and then eventually later on smoking weed, and I'd
be reading Jimmie Times, reading Jim Murray beach yeah right,
And and a buddy of mine said, why do you
read the newspaper? Those stories change all the time. I'm like, well,
that's why you read it. Yeah, yeah, I mean we're
fortunate enough. I mean I talk about the La Times
a lot here.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I mean Bill Plashki's world class, and then you know
Steve Lopez, Gustavo Ariana, Robin ab Carry and I mean
they've they were kind of a shadow of what they
used to be in terms of circulation and also influence,
I think. But still on a day to day basis,
especially with these fires and the homelessest issue and the
whole political scene, they do a great job.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I really think they do a great Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Right, I think they could do a little deeper dive
into city hall.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What do you what do you read in the Conway
Family Newsletter? Read the racing form?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
But you know, nobody holds city hall to the fire,
to the feet to the fire in this town.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Now they're trying to.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
But I mean the stories that come out there's no consequences.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's why, because nobody ever does it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean, there was a story that came out today.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
I don't know if you saw this today, but there
was a story that came out today.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I said to John colebolts right up his alley.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Yeah, And the title or the lead was searing adult audit,
searing audit find City Hall has failed in properly tracking
billions of dollars for homeless.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right, we did that. They don't know where the money
is well?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Which and then so why isn't the head of LASA,
Lavish Adams Kellum fired.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Nobody's calling for her resignation.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Nobody gets fired in city Hall or in the supervisors.
The fire chief got fired, right, the fire chief got fired.
But none of these officials, they don't get fired. They
go to jail occasionally. But look, you know, up and
during COVID, you remember this, the state lost thirty billion
dollars to fraud for the Unemployment Department. Not one person
was fired or reprimanded, not one, not a single person.
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It's that's thirty billion dollars. The City of Los Angeles
is their their budget shortfall next year is one hundred
and forty seven million dollars. It's gonna get worse too,
because you're not gonna get the property tax from you know,
the burned out homes. There's a lot of businesses that
have been shut down. You're not going to get that tax.
And a lot of production in Hollywood's been shut down,
and sales of homes.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
So now that you have us depressed, what do you
what do you got coming up after? For Yeah, your
buddy Alex Mike Eleckson man, all right, he's does he
have a.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
New interview with the governor?
Speaker 8 (34:46):
You know he hasn't he it's it's odd. It's Charlie
Kirk odd. Yeah, he sort of Charlie Kirks, but he
knows how it all went down. Yeah, and he interviewed
Charlie Kirk. Right, Yeah, he interviewed Charlie Kirk. But Michael
Monks is coming on with us as well, and so
Michael Monks on four to thirty five, Alex Michaelson at
five oh five, and then we have Gene Hackman. I'm
sure he did that. Yeah, we covered that. Very strange
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and she was there for a week before he died.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And what does that mean he was unable to do
anything because of his advanced age and state. We don't
and we may never know because there but dead.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
I'm gonna get a lot of crap for this, but
at the end of a guy's life, he's really difficult
to be around.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Guys are not good at the end.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
At ninety five between George Carlin said between eighty and
ninety it is not a good decade for men. This
guy was five years north of that. So I'm sure
they hated each other, the two of them, right had
to have because you know, all of a sudden, she's
a full time nurse for the last ten years, and
so it was probably a complicated relationship.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They didn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
You know, you couldn't be gone for two weeks without
somebody checking on you. I couldn't be gone for tenfing
minutes without somebody checking it on me.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Oh wow, yeah, Hey, I'm you know what, I'm going
to the Clippers game tonight, so I'll be listening on
the way there.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Oh, that's cool. They're playing.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
They're playing the Knicks. Wow without Brunson who got hurt
last night?
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And how about this next Laker game Boston tomorrow, Boston Laker.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
If you were the finals? Is that here or there?
It's there?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh no, But this is an exciting time to be
a sports fan. Sports adds so much to us and
it brings us together. Tim it's by and the King.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
The Kings made a trade too, they got a journeyman
guy from Russia.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So I'm sure that'll work out.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
And look, the Dodgers, the Rams, everybody's trying to win
a championship around here. You know, sometimes you live in
cities where they don't try to win championships, like Anaheim,
Saint Louis. You know, I San Diego. San Diego has
never won a championship in anything, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, nothing,
not one championship, nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And we've had like nine hundred of them here.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
All Right, I'm gonna have to that Tim, Tim Conway's
coming up. After checking in with Michael Trojan the KFI
twenty four newsroom.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Hey, you've been listening to The Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI AM six
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
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