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April 4, 2025 36 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (04/04) - John Manly comes on the show to talk about the Mexico timeshare fiasco where an American couple landed in a Mexican prison but have now since been released. How much sewage has been sent to the US from Mexico? More excerpts are coming out from books revealing the truth of what was happening inside the Biden/Harris White House. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I don't know, Because we're the hottest thing going. That's why.
All right, we'll why they did? You're not supposed to question.
Christy and Paul Ko had been released from a Mexican
prison after a dispute with a timeshare company. We have
a quickie report here from ABC seven to give you

(00:57):
the background.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The Michigan couple is back home nearly a month after
being taken into custody in Mexico. Family members greeted Paul
and Christy Ako after landing in Lansing, Michigan overnight. The
couple spent several weeks in a maximum security prison.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Mexican prosecutors accused.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
The couple of trying to defraud a timeshare company, but
they deny any wrongdoing.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
You don't know what's happening, and the language barrier is unreal,
and you are trying to figure out what's going on.
And let you know, the Mexican authorities know you know
you need help.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Prosecutors say criminal charges were dismissed after the couple reached
an agreement with the timeshare company.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Now they had refused to pay one hundred and seventeen
thousand dollars in charges. They were backed up by American
Express saying that the timeshare company was canceling their reservations
all the time. Let's get John Manley on atturny four
the chios. John, how are you, hey, John?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
How you doing? I'm tired, I haven't slept in seventy
two hours, but otherwise I'm good.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I intense negotiations over this case.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I can tell you that the Trump administration was involved.
The President knew about it. He appointed his chief hostage
negotiator to be involved. And then we had a congressman
named Tom Barrett, who on his own dime went down
there and basically shadowed them for thirty six hours and
helped get them out. But let me be clear. The

(02:32):
idea that the prosecutors were involved in this case. Is nonsense.
There is no law in can Kun. There's none. It's
whatever whoever's there wants it to be and whoever has
the most money. These people should never have been charged.
They were arrested over a timeshare dispute, and I'm asking
the FBI and Michigan law enforcement to look into this case.

(02:55):
They were thrown into cells without beds, with murderers, rapists, kidnappers,
no toilet you know, there was a sink and there
was used toilet paper in it, no toiletries, and forced
to sleep on a floor with a shower curtain because
they had a dispute with their timeshare. And frankly, the
State Department should raise the travel advisory in Cancun that

(03:19):
do not travel and anybody that buys a timeshare from
anybody in some foreign countries out of their minds. I've
heard from people who have been in Kancun and had
a dispute at a hotel and found themselves in the
police station and had to pay ten thousand dollars. There
is no law there, and I don't my clients don't understand.

(03:40):
I don't understand how a company, how companies can do
this to people, and we're gonna have a lot more
to say about it. You know. The the quote negotiations
were done while they were shackled with police around them,
with gut I had to personally pay fifty eight thousand

(04:03):
dollars to a quote Mexican charity to get them out,
And the Palace company is now circulating a statement that
says though they had to pay one hundred thousand dollars
in damages, that's just a lie. I personally paid the
money because otherwise they weren't going to get out, and
I donated it to a charity run by Palace, so
God knows where that's going to go. But no, this

(04:27):
the most important thing is their home. And I can't
say enough good things about Congressman Tom Barrett, who went
down there at great personal risk, it's not safe, didn't
have a security detail, and basically lived in the jail
for thirty six hours, and to the President Trump's hostage
negotiator and everybody else in government who helped them, because

(04:50):
otherwise they wouldn't have gotten out. And it just it's
terrifying that this can happen to somebody because you have
a dispute with a foreign company and no American, No America,
and should be subject to this because you have an
argument with a hotel or a timeshare company or anybody else.
They didn't do anything wrong and American Express found for

(05:10):
him and they posted a Facebook that's it. So I
am very troubled by this, and I am confident that
this is going to be investigated by the authorities, which
being which is why I'm being careful what I.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Say that is as actually terrifying. I've been to Kankun.
We stated at a hotel.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, I can tell you what They're not listening to
your podcast in Cancun.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't want them coming to get me here.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, I had a good time that week. I don't
have any complaints at all. They didn't hold me up.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, good for you. You probably don't look like a
good target. But in all seriousness, no, I just.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Want them to know that.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
In all seriousness, I mean, we're really happy they're home,
but I mean what they've been through is just horrific.
But what I will say is that you know, what
we learn when I'm a veteran, and what you learn
on the first day of boot camp or officer candidate
school is we don't leave anybody behind. And you know,
I don't always agree with the president, and but I

(06:16):
got to tell you, they didn't leave this man behind
and woman behind. And Paul Kayo's a navy veteran, so
I'm just really grateful they got about So.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I I mean, there's a lot of lawless areas
in Mexico, and.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You think.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
This, this, this proves it. It's always in the back
of my mind because I know plenty of people who say, no,
it's fine to go to Mexico. We go every year,
and it's like, I maybe it's because of this job
I have. I've read too much stuff like this, and
I'm nervous whenever I've gone there.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Especially in the thought one sixth of the country is
not under the control of the government. Don't get me wrong,
there's there's people in Mexico, and there's people in government
of Mexico that want to do the right thing. But
I can tell you most of the morning Cancun and
this prosecution was complete and utterly bogus. They just held
them because they could, and they wanted to punish them

(07:15):
for essentially doing what they had a right to do.
Who anybody that's ever had a credit card gets a
bogus charge, you challenge it, American Express upheld it, and
for that you get thrown in a Mexican prison. That's
insane and frankly, Congress, and you know, the people involved
in this deserve to be investigated and if they violated crimes,

(07:37):
they deserve to be prosecuted.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Can they be prosecuted?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean sure, there's a variety of statutes that others
can people in foreign countries can be prosecuted for in
the United States. This company has offices in the United States,
so there just needs to be And I'm not saying
crimes are committed or not. I know what I think,
but I'm not going to say that so I want

(08:03):
but it's important given what happened to these people and
the horrific treatment they received and the danger they were
in their lives, absolutely lives were in danger. This needs
to be investigated and if if criminality is discovered, the
people involved that live here and in Mexico, if they
violated US law, ought to be extradited and punished to

(08:25):
the full extent of the law. If crimes were violated, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean, and they're going to be traumatized I'm sure
for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And if I were a betting if I were a
betting man, I think you know how that would go.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, yeah, Well, John, good work for your part there.
They were very lucky to have you representing them. And
it's a good thing for Congressman Barrett, what's his full name.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Tom barrettn Army combat, Army, combat veteran. And look, I
don't know what his politics are, but I was today.
He showed the best our country has getting him out.
Courageous and no one else helped the White except the
White House, and I'm just so grateful for him.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, Special Envoy Adam Bowler, he was.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
The Adam and his staff were amazing and cared deeply
about Americans in prison. I don't want to make this political.
I'm not political, but I'm telling you these people would
not have gotten out but for Adam Bowler and Tom Barrett.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
They were They did a job. If they did the job,
they got to be praised. That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Amen, All right, John Manley, good good talking with you.
By the way. Just one other thing, because it was
rare that we you heard about the La County case
about the sexual do you have any connection to that case.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I have cases in that case that were not settled,
so I'll leave it at that. I don't want to
comment on it otherwise. So we have a trial in June.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I see, all right, we'll talk with you then. Hey,
all right, thanks a lot. John Manley, and he's the
attorney that represented paul A Kio and his wife Christy,
who spent a month in a Mexican prison. And it
was John Manley's strong opinion that you're out of your
mind if you go to Cancun and definitely do not
get involved in a w you're not listening, do not.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Get I am listening.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I'm going to Mexico next year, and I forgot exactly where,
so I was.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Just texting my husband to ask him. So that's why
I was my pot. I forgot where we're going. It's
not we're not going to cancuon.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Oh, so you're doing Indonesia and Mexico. Huh after coming
home from Dubai excellent and missing out on Israel. Sure?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you really hard to Kiss of Death. Okay, all right,
more coming up.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (10:52):
John Cobelt's show. We've got two rounds on the Moistline
coming up after three o'clock. Two rounds of the Moistline
at three twenty and three fifty or so, and then
we have a hack and a dumpster. Yes we do.
She has been on the fringe of the news for
a while here in La County, but she took center stage.

(11:16):
And I don't want to give any more clues. You
have to wait to three thirty to find out. But
she definitely deserves a toss, a hard toss into the dumpster.
And I have a feeling there are probably many county
officials who would like to toss her into the dumpster
as well. We'll get to that coming up after three thirty. Now,
we just went through the case with John Manley of

(11:38):
the Michigan couple who apparently have the ties here to
southern California. That's why John Manley got involved this Christy
and Paul Akil. They had a timeshare in Mexico and
they ought one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. They wouldn't
pay their bill anymore because they say the timeshare the

(12:00):
palace company kept canceling their reservations and they got sick
of it and they went to American Express. American Express
backed them up. They went online and explained what happened.
And you know, I'm I'd be really leary of the
time share of Mexico myself, but people do what they do.

(12:21):
And John just came on and said, you know, in Cancun,
Quintana Rue is the state where Cancun is located, and
I've been there with my family and it's a beautiful area,
but there are no laws, there's nobody to appeal to.
So I guess somebody at the hotel called somebody in
the Mexican with the Mexican police or somebody in the
prison system. And next thing you know is Paula Kio,

(12:43):
who's fifty eight and his wife, Christy is sixty. They
ended up, as you heard John say, on the floor
of a Mexican prison, maximum security, with murders and rapists,
hardly any food, no working toilet, and it was horrific.
I mean, I got chills just listening to his story.

(13:04):
And I remember when we were in uh Cantcoon area
and this is going back about ten years, and there's
some there's some great things to see there. There's like
these beautiful pyramids. I remember there was a zoo amusement
park that we went to, but as you approach the

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resort had we stayed at one of those all inclusive
resorts that's on the beach, and we had to take
these long winding roads that went up and back and
ump and back, and the driver had us in a van.
I guess they picked us up from the airport, and
he went really slowly down the roads because there were
a lot of traffic bumps, and it took a little

(13:50):
bit to get there. We didn't go in a straight line.
We'd go towards the ocean. We'd double back towards the ocean,
double back. Finally we get to the entrance, and the
entrance had looked like a twenty foot iron gate, and
they had armed security and you had to give your
name to the security guard and they would checked they
would check their their clipboard and then slowly opened the

(14:13):
gate and would only be one car wide, one car
at a time. And I finally asked somebody what's this about,
and they said, it's the drug car teuse.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I had the same experience when I took my kids
outside of Cancun a few years ago exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, that's where we went. What's the town next to Kankun, Well,
there is, that's where we stayed at the resort. There's
there's another No, Talloom is the archaeology.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Harris was apply delk krmen. Oh yeah, but there's pliod o' carmen.
But I was close to something moo Harris.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But it's literally right side right outside of can Kun.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah. Yeah, the whole region there kan Kuhn and there's
a series of other towns and that's where the resorts are.
And Talloom is the temple the pyramids that the the
natives built years ago. And the thing is you had
to spend your whole time at the resort, and that's

(15:09):
why they made it as beautiful and entertaining as possible.
You don't want to go wandering by yourself.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean people do believe it.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I remember we took a van from the hotel to
the Tulum and then they also had a ride for
us to go to the Zoo amusement park. And that
was it, because they told you don't go wandering out
by yourself, don't go looking for something to eat. We
got plenty to eat here. We got plenty to do
and if you want to go see the sites that
will drive and it was none of those places like

(15:38):
going to Russia. It just didn't feel comfortable. And I
can't imagine how many times these I remember there was
a few years ago where bad guys on jet ski
jet ski went up onto the beach.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Right, so then you're not really you're not protected. No,
there's no gate there, and.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
They had all these all these like military police that
were guarding the beaches from the drug cartel guys on
the jet skis. It's like, none of this is fun.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Which is it's sad because it is. It is very beautiful.
But I yeah, there's a lot of beautiful places. Yes, yes, there's.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
A lot of a lot of sandy beaches and turquoise
waters and I don't have to share the beach with
drug cartel.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Well I'm going to okay, so here, I'm going to
a place called Punta Mita in.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
A year, uh Pa Mita.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
But you know what, you look up the State Department's
travel recommendation.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I know here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
I will But I know so many people to go
there every single year, every year and have had zero
problem and people love it so I'm I'm gonna just
go with that.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, but you have if it's your going, yeah, you
have your It's a year.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's a year.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The other day because my wife and I I've been
kicking around ideas to go, and she's always wanted to
go Gorilla trekking in Africa, Yeah, which which Mark Thompson
has gone on. Uh, And so we're we're looking at
doing it and there's like three countries you could do
it in. And you could do it in Rwanda or
Uganda or Congo No one. The Congo no no, because

(17:29):
the State Department rates them as a four. That's the
most dangerous rating a country gets. Wow, it's like a
red bar. So it's like a four. Stay out of here.
You could end up being taken hostage.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
And all right, well you guys have already done a Safari.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
So Uganda was a three and Rwanda was a two,
which was like, it's okay, but just be careful. I
don't know how you be careful when you're on the case. Right,
somebody's gonna snatch you. What are you supposed to do
to block them? So if we go, it would be Rwanda,
it's definitely not Congo. Well, nice, and that's that's the
State Department. In fact, you definitely ought to go to

(18:07):
the State Department site.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
No, I just want to I just want to live
in ignorant bliss.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
When we come back, more on Mexico, because we've talked
about this for so many years. There's a huge amount
of sewage that the Mexican government pumps into America flowing
into San Diego. You know how many billion, how many
billion of gallons of ross sewage have flowed into San
Diego in the last seven years. You're not gonna believe

(18:38):
this number. And we have been fighting with Mexico for
seven years to stop sending us ross sewage, and they
wouldn't stop. And now the Trump people are in charge.
And if you wonder why there's tariffs on Mexico, this
is one of the reasons. In addition to all the
illegal immigration and the fentanyl and the drug cartel and

(19:01):
this mind boggling amount of ross sewage. And I'll tell
you how much when we come back.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
We have so much good stuff coming up in the
next hour and a half. Next segment, there's another Another
excerpt from this new book on the Kamala Harris Trump election,
and it's called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle, Battle for
the White House, and it terms. According to this Kamala

(19:34):
Harris was totally completely shocked that she lost. Her staff
had insisted to her that they were going to be
big winners, and it was a huge, a huge disappointment.
Can you imagine what it's like when you're absolutely sure
you're gonna win and everybody tells you you're gonna win,

(19:56):
and you're sitting there watching the election night results as
fifty states come in and I think Trump, I mean,
I think she only won about twenty states, maybe nineteen.
How could you lose sixty percent of the states. And
she and her staff were convinced they'd win, all the

(20:16):
money they spend on polling, all that political expertise. I mean,
if you're going to have all that money and expertise,
at least know what's going on. We'll get to that
in the next segment. Now, among the many crimes that
Mexico commits against the American people here, not only the
rampant immigration, illegal immigration, but a tremendous amount of weapons

(20:40):
come over the border, tremendous amount of drugs, heroin, cocaine,
and in recent years fentanyl and the fentinyl costs has
been costing one hundred thousand lives a year and more.
And China sends Mexico the ingredients and then they're put
together in these cheap Mexican labs and then the cartels

(21:03):
distribute the drugs over the border. Now that has dropped dramatically.
We had Todd Bensman on yesterday from the Center for
Immigration Studies, and it looks like in just three months,
sentinel smuggling is down fifty percent. One of the other
things that Mexican sends US is a tremendous amount of sewage.

(21:24):
And periodically this story has made the news and again
for a day or two and then disappears. The city
of Tijuana has a completely failed sewage system, huge population
that's been growing, and they have been pumping enormous amounts

(21:46):
of ross sewage and garbage and storm water into the
city of San Diego and into the waters in the ocean.
How many how many gallons of ross sewage do you
think they pumped from Tijuana to San Diego since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
You're asking me, I get this wrong every time.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, give me another wrong answer.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
How are you calculating and thinking gallons?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yes? Gallons here?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yes, okay, fifty thousand gallons.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Fifty one hundred billion?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh my, see what I mean. Don't ask me these
hard questions anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
How did you get the fifty thousand? And you were
talking to yourself there like you had some calculation. Here
the wheels, the wheels go around. They rusted shut. A
hundred billion gallons of raw sewage and garbage and storm
water have flowed into San Diego in seven years from Tijuana.

(22:52):
Can you imagine this? One hundred and nobody ever did
anything about it. San Diego area beaches are frequently closed
because of all the toxins. There is one beach that
was shut down for more than a thousand days straight.

(23:14):
That would be about three years. Navy seals do their
training in the waters. They get sick. Even the Navy
seals can't fight this off. So Trump's new EPA administrator,
Lee Zelden, he noticed that there was a construction incident

(23:34):
in Mexico and sent untreated sewage into the Tijuana River.
And now he is publicly pressuring Mexico to do something
and to pay for it. It turns out we gave
them a lot of money to fix the situation, and
they took the money and didn't fix it. What do
you know, Mexico must fully honor its commitment to control

(23:56):
their growing pollution and sewage. The time and excuse delays
are exceptions is over. Zeldon said. They Trump is using
tariffs to force countries to do not only what he
wants them to do, but that what they should be
doing if they were decent allies and neighbors. I'm so

(24:19):
second turn around there saying well, this is our allies.
Our allies are screwing us. They're screwing us. They're taking
our money, and they're not funding their own military to
defend themselves. We have to spend our money to defend themselves.
They manipulate their currencies, they have they have it real
high tariffs. We've been paying far higher tariffs for years

(24:42):
than they've been paying on our goods. I mean a
lot of the stuff. He says. It is true. I
don't know if all his this big plan is going
to work or not, but the charges he makes against
these countries are absolutely true. The State Department is cutting
off deliveries of Colorado River water to Tijuana. It usually

(25:04):
runs through San Diego system, and they say it's unrelated
to the sewage problem, that it has has to do
with another issue. But the Trump administration cannot believe what
they've gotten away with. For years, US has been giving

(25:27):
Mexico money. For example, Trump gave three hundred million dollars
to Mexico to upgrade an international water treatment plant on
the US side of the border. That was part of
a big trade agreement. But Mexico hasn't done its part
for the sewage on their side of the border, and

(25:51):
they claim they don't have the money. Are they not
getting a cut of the cartel proceeds anymore? The one
US official says, they understand it's not okay to send
sewage in the river. It's just a matter of having
the resources to repair and replace things. See when they
have when the waterline breaks, there isn't really impact to

(26:14):
any Mexicans. Well, the impact is in the US. We're
a much bigger and richer country. So they say, why
don't you guys come pay for it? So they dump
one hundred billion gallons of sewage on our side of
the border, foul our ocean. Foul our rivers and then
they say, well, you're rich, fix it. A lot of

(26:36):
people have that attitude. Countries have this attitude. You were rich,
How about you you spend your money as a priority
and fix your own freaking sewage plant. I mean, one
hundred billion gallons, you should be bombing them. Congress has

(26:57):
provided another three hundred and fifty million for the for
the international treatment plant. In fact, we just gave a
two hundred and fifty million in December. And there's a
spoke espression for the EPA named Molly Vessilu. She says
Mexico needs to build and properly operate all the infrastructure

(27:20):
necessary to treat all the sewage generated by Tijuana. Mexico
should pay for their own wastewater collection. Well they won't,
and they keep dumping it here. So maybe you know,
that's another reason for a tariff or some kind of retaliation.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
See.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I think he's right. He should play hardball with all
these countries, because what do we get out of we
got one hundred billion gallons of sewage? Well, what's the
point of playing mister nice guy, mister negotiator. It's like, okay, well,
let's just talk let's find a way, let's compromise that. No,
they're playing us for suckers and fools. Apparently Mexico is

(27:57):
not able to collect the sewage properly to treat that's
been the issue. How amazing when we come back Kamala Harris.
There is a story leaking out every few hours because
there's two books that are being released and excerpts are

(28:18):
are getting play in the media. This hour's excerpt is
how shocked Kamala and Tim Walls was when they lost
because their staff had told them that they were gonna
win easily. Well, we'll tell you it's actually pretty funny.
People really live in delusional bubbles. It's like I want

(28:41):
to do. Some say the other day that he lives
in a big blue bubble. He just spent the campaign
talking to big blue crowds, taking the big blue book.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
But remember Biden was pushed out.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Everybody thought that Kamala Harris was going to be the
savior for the Democratic Party, and so she really thought.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
For sure, yeah, that she was going to win.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah they didn't. They didn't. They should have known. She
didn't have a brain though, That's what was missing. And
the thing is her own staff is like taking potshots
at her. We'll tell you more when we come back.

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thirty six is supposed to make a stealing illegal again.
I don't know how else to put it, make theft
a crime again, make drug use crime again, and treat
the drug addicts rather put him in jail, rather than

(30:04):
put them in jail. We're gonna talk to the founder
and president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, Michael Rushford.
He's written a piece for californiaglobe dot com on how
California's legislator, Governor Newsom is not funding what needs to
be funded to make Prop thirty six work. They will

(30:25):
defy you at every turn. They have no respect for
what you want done in this state and we'll get
into that two rats of the moistline, and also a
hack and a dumpster, and you'll enjoy this one, all right.
Here's the latest expert excerpt from this book on the
Trump Kamala election called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for

(30:48):
the White House, and it was written by Jonathan Allen
and Amy Parnes. And it turns out that Kamala Harris
and her goofy sidekick Tim Walls were completely convinced that
they were going to win, that her staff had snowed

(31:10):
her and Walls into believing that they would have a
very enjoyable night, it would be an easy win. She
was completely shocked, said Amy parn Is, one of the writers.
She was completely shocked. Tim Walls was shocked. Walls was
sitting in his hotel room, stunned. He has no words,

(31:36):
and people are kind of explaining to him, kind of
explaining to him, there's two words. You lost. Let's to
explain same thing with her, Kamala, and she's like, are
you sure? Have we done a recount? She lost thirty

(31:58):
one states, she lost, She lost sixty two percent of
the states in the Union, which is important because and
a lot of people don't understand this. The popular vote
totals don't matter. It's only an electoral college. And you

(32:19):
could whine and bitch all you want about that, but
it's in the constitution and good luck changing it. Those
are the rules of the game. And whenever anybody loses
because of the electoral college, like, yeah, this is not fair,
this is wrong. It's like the rolls tailor your campaign
to the electoral college. And the thing is they did.
They spent most of their time in the seven swing states,

(32:40):
so they know the rules. And she lost sixty two
percent of the states. She lost fifty eight percent of
the electoral votes. This wasn't close. And she's saying, have
we done a recount? Well, that night Election night, they
don't do. He counts of the entire nation that night.

(33:07):
According to Parnas, they thought they were going to win.
And when they come back down and say, oh, no,
we didn't really have a chance. No, that's not what
they were thinking. They thought they were gonna win. And
the Harris campaign staffers felt they were gas lit by leadership.
They were told things were looking good. Harris bought the

(33:29):
hype that she was doing better than she was. Kamala Harris,
Oh this is so key was looking at her crowd
size and they felt like the vibe was strong, and
people were saying, Oh, we have more boots on the ground,
we're doing better in fundraising. And she bought all that.
She bought the hype. So did a lot of people
in the campaign. The vibe Oprah vibes don't vote Yeah Oprah?

(33:58):
You know a TV star for twenty years ago, Oprah?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Most people never watched the Oprah Show. It's you know,
you tell people things, It's like, yeah, Oprah, you know,
maybe I don't know if she had seven ten million
people watching, which means three hundred and twenty million didn't watch.
There's no star who's nearly as popular, not a tiny
fraction as popular as you think they are. Most people

(34:27):
never watched the Oprah show. I never saw a whole
Oprah show.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh, I used to watch Oprah. I wanted to be Oprah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
You wanted to be I did?

Speaker 7 (34:34):
I did?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Well, you missed it in a lot of work, I really did.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
I know.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, that was my thing.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
You don't eat that much, oh, John, I wanted to
be a talk show.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I wanted to do that type of kind of it.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh that kind of yeah, I say. And then she
said she could have won if only the election was
later in the calendar. And actually one of her friend says,
that's effing bonkers. If election day was October first, we
might have pulled it off. The shorter was better, not longer,
because according to one Harris advisor, Kamala's problem was substance,

(35:15):
not a lack of campaign time. I don't think we
needed more time. We needed more substance. And she did
not have more substance. That's one of her own advisors.
She did not have more substance. But half of California,
more than half of California, is ready to elect her
as governor. The advisors are telling you that there's nobody
home upstairs, because there's nobody home upstairs, but she's the

(35:41):
leading gubernatorial candidate when we come back. Michael Rushford, the
founder and president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation. Prop
thirty six supposed to make theft and drug addiction crimes
again and send those drug criminals to to treatment rather

(36:02):
than prison, except they're not funding the treatment centers. Gavin
Newsom and the Democratic Legislature are trying to undermine Prop
thirty six so they could say, Sue it doesn't work.
We'll get to that with Michael Risford coming out next
Deborah Mark live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You

(36:23):
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