April 11, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (04/11) - Neil Saavedra fills in for John. Luke Barr comes on the show to talk about the aftermath of the helicopter crash yesterday in New York City. More on the helicopter crash yesterday in New York City. Michael Monks comes on the show to talk about the Menendez Brothers hearing on their possible retrial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
Neil s Vader and John is out. Happy to be
to be with you today. On the phone with us
is Luke bar ABC News law enforcement reporter out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Luke, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am Welser. How about yourself?
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I can't complain doing okay.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
There's a lot going on in regards to what has
it been like twenty five hours since the helicopter crash,
six people killed.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There in New York.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
We had the NTSB chair chairperson Jennifer Homendi Homandy. She
said that they won't speculate, but what did we did
we get anything out of today's press conference?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Well, what we what we found out is that, you know,
they're still actually actively investigating what happened. What we do
know is that a dive team is actually in.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The river right now. They're looking to see what else
they can find. I mean, you saw the pictures of
the helicopter pulled out of the of the river, and
and you know, she just said, it's a way to
really to speculate as to what happened. How this happened.
But certainly they're they're looking at every possible scenario, but
(01:29):
you know, the video and photo is something they're going
to be looking for.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And actually, she she she wanted the public to give.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Over any video or any photos they have of the
crash to sort of put the pieces together and figure
out what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You know, we live in a time, as you just
pointed out, Luke, and I thought that hit me as well,
that the request was listen if you have photographs. Obviously
a very popular place for people to be on vacation.
I mean, that's what these folks were on vacation, sadly,
and so there's bound to be more. I think the
first images we saw were probably from that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
We what we.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Could see is is before it even hit, it was
in pieces. The rotor, the top roator, the main roader
was disengaged from the remainder of the vehicle. The fuselage itself,
if that's what they referred to on a helicopter, was separated.
And if you look up, I was poking around earlier.
(02:34):
You look up, you know common causes of helicopter crashes.
The first two The first is human error, the second
and these are percentages. The second is mechanical failure. So
you look at that and you see, you know, the
rotor blades separated.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You didn't see any real explosion or anything like that
until they you know, hit. Are you hearing a lot
of speculation and mumbles through other reporters and in your
investigation yourself just reporting on this?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, you know, I think it is just way to realize.
I mean, for example, you know, they're still working to
recover a lot of the helicopter, including the main road
or the main transmission, the roof structure, the tail structure.
So you know, it is just I think unfortunately too
early to tell what exactly happened. You know, there's you know,
(03:28):
something the Antiesty does really well is that they really
do a good job of investigating a lot of these
incidents and getting down to exactly what happened, exactly when
it happened, where it happened, and really they make these
recommendations after they've done and their investigation, so these unfortunates
and don't ever happen again.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And something A couple of interesting things that were said
by the ntsbach Here person Jennifer Hummindy today. One was which, hey,
we don't even step in until some things done first,
obviously recovering bodies and things like that. So now the
NTSB is eyeballs deep in their investigation.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But she also stated something that was interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
She said they have a lot of information already, even
though they were asking for videos and photographs. She said,
we have a lot of information. She said very specifically
that she wasn't that the NTSB was not going to speculate,
and that there was they're going to be pouring over
all this information. You stated that they're still scuba divers
(04:35):
in the water right now. Is there any upcoming press
conferences or anything expected that you expect today?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well, I think we'll see the divers get out of
the water by nightfall. On the East coast, it's cold
and rainy and in dreary, so you know, I think
that we'll see the divers get out of the water
by nightfall, and you know, and a certain point they're
going to have to in. These diberts, by the way,
make pure are from the New York, New Jersey area.
(05:08):
They're not NTSP diverts. They're they're local to New York
and New Jersey. Uh, you know, I think that we'll
see as a sort of case unfolds, the ntsp offer
more updates. Uh and and eventually, uh we'll see in
a few months, we'll see a full report of what happened.
(05:29):
But I do think that the ntspill will continue to
update the public as a sort of these pieces roll
in to their investigation.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Luke Barr, ABC News law enforcement reporters on with me
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
One last question, Luke before we let you go.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The it looked from everything I saw poking into this myself,
was that visibility was at about ten miles. My understanding
is just under a mile or so is when there's
major concerns. So it didn't seem like that was a problem,
even though there was you know, clouds and the like.
Have you heard anything where weather is a possible concern
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from the flight yesterday?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, And and and I think it is. It's too
I mean, you know, you think about what happened, uh
here in walking in d C with the with the plane,
uh in the helicopter that collided outside of Reagan Airport.
Those conditions were were were clear, and and so you
know it's just going to be a matter of uh,
you know, the NTSB. They're really drilling down on what
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whether this was a weather issue, whether this was a
mechanical issue, whether it was a fuel issue. I mean,
it's it's just, you know, one of those things that
the ntc SP is going to have to make the
determination and then you know, offer recommendations to to to
make sure that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
All right, thanks so much for your time, Luke bar
ABC New Law News, Law Enforcement reporter out of Washington.
I appreciate your time, Luke, thank you. All right, stick
around Neil here. John Cobelt is out today back with
more on this. I have some thoughts and of course
some conspiracy theories popping up. More things that I learned
(07:10):
looking into the horrible crash of that you know, tourist
sightseeing helicopter yesterday in New York, and the people that
were on it, the actual passengers, and why this is
lending itself to conspiracy theories.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
When we returned, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Neil Savadra.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
John Cobelt is out today and you've got Conway coming
up at four o'clock, so go know where helicopter crash
left a Semens executive, his family sadly, including four eight
and ten year old dead, and his wife the pilot
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as well.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Just yesterday. I think we're what twenty five twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Six hours out, Deborah from the crash yesterday.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
That it happened around this time.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Actually, so sad story.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
You have a sightseeing helicopter plunged into the Hudson River
yesterday kind of your routine Manhattan Skyline. Look, you know,
at all the places you'd expect to be visited were visited,
kind of that goes around the Statue of Liberty and
things like that. And I think they were what seventeen
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eighteen minutes into the tour.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Which is so scary.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
I mean you always hear that taking off and landing
are the most dangerous times you're in a plane. But
here it happened smack right in the middle of the trip.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And and because you have this individual with his family.
The victims include Augustine Escobari's forty nine, his wife, who
is I think nine years his I think she was
celebrating her fortieth or something, so ten years I guess roughly.
They both worked for Semens, the company he was the
(09:10):
CEO of rail infrastructure at Semens Mobility. They are the
transportation Solutions division there at Semens. So you know, all
of our minds the conspiracy, conspiracy theories are popping all
over the place, because if you remember, back in December,
you had Brian Robert Thompson, who was the CEO of
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the American Health Insurance company we all know. As a
matter of fact, I think that might be one of
my insurances, United Healthcare, was shot killed there in midtown Manhattan,
there in New York by Luigi Mangioni, who is becoming
a bit of a folk hero, folk hero rather, and
so your mind goes to, well, what the hell happened?
(09:53):
It's a bizarre site, Debora. Did you see the video
where you can definitively see that the rotor the main
rot is off of it has parted ways with the
main body of the aircraft.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
All the video that I have seen is terrifying. It
is unbelievable to see what happened to that helicopter.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And a Thursday out there in Manhattan. I got to
imagine that we're going to be seeing, you know, as
we heard earlier, we were talking with Luke Barr, ABC
News Law Enforcement reporter from Washington just a couple of
minutes ago, and we were talking about was it a
couple hours ago or something like that? To the NTSB
chairman chairperson Jennifer Homandy came out and spoke about this.
(10:42):
She asked and requested for people to share videos from
their phones, pictures or those types of things. I imagine
on a Thursday, just before spring break that there might
be people visiting it.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I mean, yesterday we have on the air some people
that actually sought and they were just shocked and terrified
to see what was happening to this helicopter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah. I used to visit my brother. He and his
husband have a place out in Manhattan. So I would
visit probably twice a year, go out and hang with him,
go to the bars and go to the speakeasies and
food and all that stuff. And so you know, I'm
going through my head at the location and all these things.
(11:29):
I couldn't help. And I was there in July last
July with my own eight year old and my wife,
and you can't help.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know, you do this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's human nature, Deborah, that we put ourselves in those places.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
As you know, if you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Saw that, And when I first heard about the crash,
I didn't know that the people they were talking about
passing away because they said tourists, I thought they were
originally and I heard bits and pieces thought they were originally.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
On the ground. Oh, I was like, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So then as the information came out and learning, But
now we are in the conspiratorial stage, and I'm not
a big conspiracy person.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm more lean on what they refer to as Akham's razor.
And if you're not familiar with that logic, that logic
it means basically, if you heard galloping outside your house,
don't assume it's a zebra.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, yeah, it's probably a horse.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I mean the most I wouldn't think it was a
dog because it's galloping. You hear the mont of python coconuts,
and then you process the most logical thing. Now, when
I was looking and doing some research, I found that
helicopters mostly are downed by two things. The number one
thing is human error and the second is mechanical issues.
(12:59):
So from what I see so far, I see a rotor,
the main rotor off of the aircraft.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm going to go with there with some mechanical problems.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Then you go into you know, Ray had a bunch
of stack of great information that I was pouring through,
and you look at not only this particular airline, this
airline for these sightseeing tours has had some issues.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In the past.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I mean, I imagine when you're dealing with mechanics, there's
a lot of variables. I mean, people, I tell people
a lot. Don't be surprised by the average or the mundane.
People go, oh my gosh, my day was ruined today.
I got a flat tire. I'm like, you're driving a
six thousand pound metal vehicle at speeds just under one
(13:50):
hundred miles per hour on air filled rubber balloons, and
you're I'm surprised when mine don't pop and I get
to somewhere safely. Like, we get surprised by things that
are kind of silly. Our tires should be popping all
the time, and the technology is such that they don't,
So it surprises this. But mechanical things are going to
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break down, and if they're in the sky, they're going
to fall out of the sky.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
You know what was interesting though, this morning when I
was watching TV news, they were talking about the company
that owns this helicopter that they wiped out everything all
on social media, everything about the company. It was right
after the crash, so I thought that was I didn't
know that. Yeah, I thought that was really strange.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Who did the company that owns.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
The helicopter the crashed, Because yes, there was a problem.
I don't know if it was in twenty eighteen, there
was something.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well there's stuff that goes back. There was one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
The most recent one I think was twenty thirteen from
what I you know what I say.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Thirteen, But this TV news report was talking about how
they start they just wiped their web cyclean so I
don't know what that's about.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, that wouldn't be good.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Well, it just kind of is suspicious, right. I mean,
I'm not saying anything, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So they had concerns about safety of low altitude helicopters
to begin with there in New York City. And we
had another recent one. I can't remember if it was
in Hawaii or something, but there was a recent enough
one that it came to my mind. But helicopter operations
in the Hudson River have long had criticism of people
(15:35):
concerned about these low altitude flights for psyche seeing and
the like. Thirty people died in helicopter accidents in the
New York City area from nineteen seventy seven, nineteen or
twenty nineteen, according to the Associated Press here. That includes
a twenty eighteen crash that killed five passengers in a
doors off aerial tour. Now does that mean they're flying
(15:58):
around without the doors on on?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
God, yeah, I prefer you know, I prefer doors on
a boat if I could have them.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So these are the things that are going to be
poked at by the NTSB. I don't know when we're
going to hear from them, but I imagine with the amount
of information and the fact they still have scuba divers
there out of not the NTSB but local authorities there
have scuba diver divers out there recovering parts the bodies
have already been recovered. Recovering parts of the aircraft to
(16:29):
me means that there's you know, they will be able
to trace everything back to some failure if that's what
it was.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I have a question for you. You have a young child,
a son.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, eight years old? Right?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Well, with this is this going to give you pauseed? Ever?
Taking him on a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Tour, yes, and I would have Normally, I'm not that guy.
I tend to believe that, you know, hey, you gotta
everybody's doing their job. But this one did. Yeah, looking
through and I'll tell you why. And I hate to
say that because these people, you know, this is how
(17:07):
they make their living. And I you know, and I've
been on many helicopters and many helicopters tours tours, but
you know this this one. Yeah, when it comes to
my son, I'm a little different about it.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
I would not take my kids when they were younger.
I did not take them on any helicopters. In fact,
the last time I was in a helicopter was before
I had kids.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I would definitely give paus all right. Speaking of
brothers or kids, bad kids, Benanda's brothers, Michael Munk's gonna
join us, go nowhere, Neil on right now, John is off.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Neil savadra here, John is out today. Don't forget. You
have Tim Conway Junior coming up at four, and then
you have mo'kelly at seven, who has now seen on
YouTube nightly if you haven't had a chance to watch that.
I watched that the other night. It was pretty great.
It's kind of fun to see things. I wish we
all did it, but not all of us look like, mo,
(18:12):
you don't need you don't need my face. Uh, there's
a lot going on in Los Angeles and we you
know the turd that is you. If you drive around
LA right now with your windows down, you can smell
City Hall. It's a problem, and we'll get into that later.
As a matter of fact, UH Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez is
(18:33):
going to call in at two o'clock. You know, she
was the first person that I heard talk about there
were problems with accounting and UH city Hall and the
homeless situation, and that they weren't accounting properly and it
did not get traction. So now that it's getting traction
(18:57):
and people are listening to and going, oh yeah, yeah,
this is bad, we're going to talk to her coming up.
The Menendez brothers. We have our very own Michael Monks
in with us the hearing today. Have we learned anything yet?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
We have?
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Okay, no decisions have been made yet, but basically this
was a hearing that was motivated by one La County
DA Nathan Hawkman, who says, you know, our office previously
made a request to consider re sentencing these Meninez brothers
and possibly releasing them for time served, but that was
under his predecessor, George Gascon and Nathan Hakman seems to
(19:34):
be no fan of the Menindez brothers. Whatever that documentary did,
whatever that docu drama series did, it didn't affect him
at all, didn't pull out his heartstrings at all.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So he has asked the judge to allow that motion
to go away.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Now the court has its own possible resentencing coming up.
There might be a hearing next week on that matter,
but Hawkman wants his own offices motion pulled. He does
not think that the Menines brothers should be resentenced. He's
already come out and said, I don't think they deserve
a new trial. They want to get out. Let governor
knew some deal with it. So basically what he's done
at court today, prosecutors from his office have shown a
(20:08):
bloody crime scene photo from that case involving Eric and
Lolman and Dez. Because what Hawkman seems to be doing
here is reminding folks that, yeah, a lot of years
have passed. Yes, we've gotten to know that they may
have behaved mostly well in prison, maybe they've changed a
little bit. And yes, there were some Netflix or online
streaming series that pulled at people's heartstrings. But they have
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not fully taken responsibility for a crime that was extraordinarily
gruesome and brutal.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I gotta imagine there's some blood when you shoot your
mom in the face with a shotgun.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And your dad too. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
I mean, no matter how big your house in Beverly Hills,
is that blood's going to spray.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, that's a I remember it. I remember listening to
this very program with John and Can listening to the
coverage during all of this. And and I think reasons
are important when it comes to crime. There are you know,
there are mitigating circumstances in some situations. I don't know
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what it would take to want to shoot your parents
if I don't know what kind of whatever, abuse, whatever,
you'd have to go. However, all I know is you
are no longer okay at that point. That's just if
it is not a direct self defense situation, in the
heat of the moment, you have to them or me.
(21:29):
You got to ask yourself, Okay, you know what's going
on here, and and I think that's legit for our
you know, DA to say, hey, I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's that's basically right.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
That's exactly where the DA's office is coming from, because
what we've learned from the Menindez side of the story
is they're really hyping up the allegations that they were
sexually abused by their father, that this was an abusive household,
and that their mother knew about it, and that's how
they claim justification. That is their self defense argument. They
feared for their own lives if they did not do this.
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So that has gotten to people. There are a lot
of people are saying, yeah, this is this seems legit.
It's been thirty five years in prison, let's reconsider this
and maybe let them go free. But what the prosecutor's
office is arguing is that the Meninna's brothers have not
shown that they understand the severity or the depravity of
their crime. So while the Meninna's brothers have come out
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and talked about the abuse they suffered, they've talked about
the you know, so called good things they've done in prison,
they haven't come out and said, man, we did a
really bad thing back then, and I think if they
had done that, they might be seeing a different approach
from the DA's office. Handle has said this before as
an attorney off and what the judge looking at is
remorse and it's hard. As a matter of fact, I
(22:47):
think it's the top on the list before you could
even move forward. And you know that's going to be
a concern throughout the entirety of this. And I will
tell you something. You want me on my best behavior, yeah,
you could lock me up. I got nowhere to go.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I will you know if that means getting a better
meal or being left alone.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So, although I think it's helpful to know when people
are good in prison, I think you'd be good in
a prison gang. That's always tell people.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
People always go, you know, because I'm a half breed,
Because I'm a half breed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That was what I was. Just let me be clear.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
No, because I'm a half breed, people always say, well,
you know, because I identify as Latino, not that I don't
love my mom. I love my mom and I love
the European side of my family, but that's how I identify.
And so my rule is, if you were in prison,
what gang would you be in? That's who you are? Oh,
I think I would be left alone.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I don't think anyone would like me in prison, because
one I would be a snitch.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right right off.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's good to wow. I'm listening for info and I'm
giving it for you.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Oh my god, you'd be dead, walking, dead man walking.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It sounds like he's not lasting.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
No man snitches against stitches, You're dead. Mister Michael Monks,
thanks for coming. Always a players inreciate the update among
Menendez brothers. I have some thoughts on this when we return.
Neil Savedra. John Cobelt is out today.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
All right, so the Menendez brothers, there was a hearing
today to decide whether to proceed with the resentencing hearing.
Still much more that needs to be known about that.
The the thoughts I have is regardless of what happens
to you, and I think that is important. I think
things that happened to you can.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Drive you to a reaction.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I was taught a long time ago that life is
ten percent what happens to you, ninety percent how you
react to it. And that how you react to things
or what's going to set you down whatever path you're
going on.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Our system is basically made up of three parts. I mean,
these are the reasons you go to jail for rehabilitation,
which is more rare than I'd like it to be punishment,
or to protect society or the combination. Right when you're
(25:32):
looking at the Mendendez brother's story and I remember it
here on the station, I remember listening to John and
Kenn at the time and all of that, hearing these
stories unfold, is what it would take, the abuse, whatever
it is, to make you shoot your parents that way.
(26:02):
And I don't know, hope to never know my father
has passed, my beloved mom still kicking, eighty seven strong
as an ox, and I.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I also don't know how I would feel afterwards. Would
there be a euphoria, would there be the mixed feelings
being torn apart?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
But what I do know, I don't think the Menendez
brothers are rehabilitated because I think they're damaged. Sad if
all those stories are true, very sad that they were
damaged by their parents.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do I care for their parents? Knowing that no.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Better to have this planet without you if that's who
they are. But maybe maybe the damage is it's just done.
It's just done. Protect society, so rehabilitate. I don't think
they can be rehabilitated because I think they're broken. Punishment
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is a question because you have to say, well, you know,
are they done being punished for it? I don't know
how long should you be in jail if you shoot
your parents' face off. There was a time where you
would have gone up against the you know, shooting brigade,
and you'd be done. Protect society is the one that
we have to look at, like are we are we
(27:37):
in danger by them? And I got to tell you
some people may say, no, I don't know if you're
that broken, I would air on the side of keeping
you in prison. You did a very heinous thing, and
as I talked about with our very own Michael Monks
moments ago, I've not seen remorse is a matter of fact.
(28:00):
All the stuff that they did afterwards is bizarre. But again,
and all these are allegations, I know, but never been
raped by family members, never had a mom turn or
eye or even participate or any of those things.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I don't know what that would be like.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I hope you don't know, but ultimately I don't think
they have been rehabilitated.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The punishment. I don't really.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Care in this circumstance if they've been good in prison.
I think it's much harder to be bad in prison
than people think. So that's not always I'd like to
see people be that way, but that's not always some
sort of great Yeah, okay, I haven't murdered anybody. Well
I've been in prison. Well it's really impressive. You've been
in solitaire for all that time. You haven't murdered anybody.
(28:52):
Good on you, and then protect society. I don't know
if we're protected by them. If they're at the point
of being that broken to kill your parents in that way, you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Know, Uh, I don't know that we would be safe. Well,
I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I am much happier that we have La County District
Attorney Nathan Hackman sitting in that seat to make these
decisions than we were with the wing nut that was
in that seat warming it prior Nil Savedra John is out. Uh,
we come back. LA City Council pulling funding, exploring the
(29:39):
possibility of pulling funding from a homeless agency, all kinds
of a mess. Monica Rodriguez Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez from the
seventh District is going to join us because she's the
one that I first heard complaining and sounding the alarm
last year or maybe even earlier, and now people are
(30:00):
jumping on board with this at city Hall. So we'll
talk to her when we come back.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Go nowhere.
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Neil s Vader and John is out. Happy to be
to be with you today. On the phone with us
is Luke bar ABC News law enforcement reporter out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Luke, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am Welser. How about yourself?
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I can't complain doing okay.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
There's a lot going on in regards to what has
it been like twenty five hours since the helicopter crash,
six people killed.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There in New York.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
We had the NTSB chair chairperson Jennifer Homendi Homandy. She
said that they won't speculate, but what did we did
we get anything out of today's press conference?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Well, what we what we found out is that, you know,
they're still actually actively investigating what happened. What we do
know is that a dive team is actually in.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The river right now. They're looking to see what else
they can find. I mean, you saw the pictures of
the helicopter pulled out of the of the river, and
and you know, she just said, it's a way to
really to speculate as to what happened. How this happened.
But certainly they're they're looking at every possible scenario, but
(01:29):
you know, the video and photo is something they're going
to be looking for.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And actually, she she she wanted the public to give.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Over any video or any photos they have of the
crash to sort of put the pieces together and figure
out what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You know, we live in a time, as you just
pointed out, Luke, and I thought that hit me as well,
that the request was listen if you have photographs. Obviously
a very popular place for people to be on vacation.
I mean, that's what these folks were on vacation, sadly,
and so there's bound to be more. I think the
first images we saw were probably from that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
We what we.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Could see is is before it even hit, it was
in pieces. The rotor, the top roator, the main roader
was disengaged from the remainder of the vehicle. The fuselage itself,
if that's what they referred to on a helicopter, was separated.
And if you look up, I was poking around earlier.
(02:34):
You look up, you know common causes of helicopter crashes.
The first two The first is human error, the second
and these are percentages. The second is mechanical failure. So
you look at that and you see, you know, the
rotor blades separated.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You didn't see any real explosion or anything like that
until they you know, hit. Are you hearing a lot
of speculation and mumbles through other reporters and in your
investigation yourself just reporting on this?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, you know, I think it is just way to realize.
I mean, for example, you know, they're still working to
recover a lot of the helicopter, including the main road
or the main transmission, the roof structure, the tail structure.
So you know, it is just I think unfortunately too
early to tell what exactly happened. You know, there's you know,
(03:28):
something the Antiesty does really well is that they really
do a good job of investigating a lot of these
incidents and getting down to exactly what happened, exactly when
it happened, where it happened, and really they make these
recommendations after they've done and their investigation, so these unfortunates
and don't ever happen again.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And something A couple of interesting things that were said
by the ntsbach Here person Jennifer Hummindy today. One was which, hey,
we don't even step in until some things done first,
obviously recovering bodies and things like that. So now the
NTSB is eyeballs deep in their investigation.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But she also stated something that was interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
She said they have a lot of information already, even
though they were asking for videos and photographs. She said,
we have a lot of information. She said very specifically
that she wasn't that the NTSB was not going to speculate,
and that there was they're going to be pouring over
all this information. You stated that they're still scuba divers
(04:35):
in the water right now. Is there any upcoming press
conferences or anything expected that you expect today?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well, I think we'll see the divers get out of
the water by nightfall. On the East coast, it's cold
and rainy and in dreary, so you know, I think
that we'll see the divers get out of the water
by nightfall, and you know, and a certain point they're
going to have to in. These diberts, by the way,
make pure are from the New York, New Jersey area.
(05:08):
They're not NTSP diverts. They're they're local to New York
and New Jersey. Uh, you know, I think that we'll
see as a sort of case unfolds, the ntsp offer
more updates. Uh and and eventually, uh we'll see in
a few months, we'll see a full report of what happened.
(05:29):
But I do think that the ntspill will continue to
update the public as a sort of these pieces roll
in to their investigation.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Luke Barr, ABC News law enforcement reporters on with me
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
One last question, Luke before we let you go.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The it looked from everything I saw poking into this myself,
was that visibility was at about ten miles. My understanding
is just under a mile or so is when there's
major concerns. So it didn't seem like that was a problem,
even though there was you know, clouds and the like.
Have you heard anything where weather is a possible concern
(06:08):
from the flight yesterday?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, And and and I think it is. It's too
I mean, you know, you think about what happened, uh
here in walking in d C with the with the plane,
uh in the helicopter that collided outside of Reagan Airport.
Those conditions were were were clear, and and so you
know it's just going to be a matter of uh,
you know, the NTSB. They're really drilling down on what
(06:33):
whether this was a weather issue, whether this was a
mechanical issue, whether it was a fuel issue. I mean,
it's it's just, you know, one of those things that
the ntc SP is going to have to make the
determination and then you know, offer recommendations to to to
make sure that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
All right, thanks so much for your time, Luke bar
ABC New Law News, Law Enforcement reporter out of Washington.
I appreciate your time, Luke, thank you. All right, stick
around Neil here. John Cobelt is out today back with
more on this. I have some thoughts and of course
some conspiracy theories popping up. More things that I learned
(07:10):
looking into the horrible crash of that you know, tourist
sightseeing helicopter yesterday in New York, and the people that
were on it, the actual passengers, and why this is
lending itself to conspiracy theories.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
When we returned, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Neil Savadra.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
John Cobelt is out today and you've got Conway coming
up at four o'clock, so go know where helicopter crash
left a Semens executive, his family sadly, including four eight
and ten year old dead, and his wife the pilot
(07:57):
as well.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Just yesterday. I think we're what twenty five twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Six hours out, Deborah from the crash yesterday.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
That it happened around this time.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Actually, so sad story.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
You have a sightseeing helicopter plunged into the Hudson River
yesterday kind of your routine Manhattan Skyline. Look, you know,
at all the places you'd expect to be visited were visited,
kind of that goes around the Statue of Liberty and
things like that. And I think they were what seventeen
(08:33):
eighteen minutes into the tour.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Which is so scary.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
I mean you always hear that taking off and landing
are the most dangerous times you're in a plane. But
here it happened smack right in the middle of the trip.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And and because you have this individual with his family.
The victims include Augustine Escobari's forty nine, his wife, who
is I think nine years his I think she was
celebrating her fortieth or something, so ten years I guess roughly.
They both worked for Semens, the company he was the
(09:10):
CEO of rail infrastructure at Semens Mobility. They are the
transportation Solutions division there at Semens. So you know, all
of our minds the conspiracy, conspiracy theories are popping all
over the place, because if you remember, back in December,
you had Brian Robert Thompson, who was the CEO of
(09:31):
the American Health Insurance company we all know. As a
matter of fact, I think that might be one of
my insurances, United Healthcare, was shot killed there in midtown Manhattan,
there in New York by Luigi Mangioni, who is becoming
a bit of a folk hero, folk hero rather, and
so your mind goes to, well, what the hell happened?
(09:53):
It's a bizarre site, Debora. Did you see the video
where you can definitively see that the rotor the main
rot is off of it has parted ways with the
main body of the aircraft.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
All the video that I have seen is terrifying. It
is unbelievable to see what happened to that helicopter.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And a Thursday out there in Manhattan. I got to
imagine that we're going to be seeing, you know, as
we heard earlier, we were talking with Luke Barr, ABC
News Law Enforcement reporter from Washington just a couple of
minutes ago, and we were talking about was it a
couple hours ago or something like that? To the NTSB
chairman chairperson Jennifer Homandy came out and spoke about this.
(10:42):
She asked and requested for people to share videos from
their phones, pictures or those types of things. I imagine
on a Thursday, just before spring break that there might
be people visiting it.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I mean, yesterday we have on the air some people
that actually sought and they were just shocked and terrified
to see what was happening to this helicopter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah. I used to visit my brother. He and his
husband have a place out in Manhattan. So I would
visit probably twice a year, go out and hang with him,
go to the bars and go to the speakeasies and
food and all that stuff. And so you know, I'm
going through my head at the location and all these things.
(11:29):
I couldn't help. And I was there in July last
July with my own eight year old and my wife,
and you can't help.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know, you do this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's human nature, Deborah, that we put ourselves in those places.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
As you know, if you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Saw that, And when I first heard about the crash,
I didn't know that the people they were talking about
passing away because they said tourists, I thought they were
originally and I heard bits and pieces thought they were originally.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
On the ground. Oh, I was like, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So then as the information came out and learning, But
now we are in the conspiratorial stage, and I'm not
a big conspiracy person.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm more lean on what they refer to as Akham's razor.
And if you're not familiar with that logic, that logic
it means basically, if you heard galloping outside your house,
don't assume it's a zebra.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, yeah, it's probably a horse.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I mean the most I wouldn't think it was a
dog because it's galloping. You hear the mont of python coconuts,
and then you process the most logical thing. Now, when
I was looking and doing some research, I found that
helicopters mostly are downed by two things. The number one
thing is human error and the second is mechanical issues.
(12:59):
So from what I see so far, I see a rotor,
the main rotor off of the aircraft.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm going to go with there with some mechanical problems.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Then you go into you know, Ray had a bunch
of stack of great information that I was pouring through,
and you look at not only this particular airline, this
airline for these sightseeing tours has had some issues.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In the past.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I mean, I imagine when you're dealing with mechanics, there's
a lot of variables. I mean, people, I tell people
a lot. Don't be surprised by the average or the mundane.
People go, oh my gosh, my day was ruined today.
I got a flat tire. I'm like, you're driving a
six thousand pound metal vehicle at speeds just under one
(13:50):
hundred miles per hour on air filled rubber balloons, and
you're I'm surprised when mine don't pop and I get
to somewhere safely. Like, we get surprised by things that
are kind of silly. Our tires should be popping all
the time, and the technology is such that they don't,
So it surprises this. But mechanical things are going to
(14:13):
break down, and if they're in the sky, they're going
to fall out of the sky.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
You know what was interesting though, this morning when I
was watching TV news, they were talking about the company
that owns this helicopter that they wiped out everything all
on social media, everything about the company. It was right
after the crash, so I thought that was I didn't
know that. Yeah, I thought that was really strange.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Who did the company that owns.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
The helicopter the crashed, Because yes, there was a problem.
I don't know if it was in twenty eighteen, there
was something.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well there's stuff that goes back. There was one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
The most recent one I think was twenty thirteen from
what I you know what I say.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Thirteen, But this TV news report was talking about how
they start they just wiped their web cyclean so I
don't know what that's about.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, that wouldn't be good.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Well, it just kind of is suspicious, right. I mean,
I'm not saying anything, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So they had concerns about safety of low altitude helicopters
to begin with there in New York City. And we
had another recent one. I can't remember if it was
in Hawaii or something, but there was a recent enough
one that it came to my mind. But helicopter operations
in the Hudson River have long had criticism of people
(15:35):
concerned about these low altitude flights for psyche seeing and
the like. Thirty people died in helicopter accidents in the
New York City area from nineteen seventy seven, nineteen or
twenty nineteen, according to the Associated Press here. That includes
a twenty eighteen crash that killed five passengers in a
doors off aerial tour. Now does that mean they're flying
(15:58):
around without the doors on on?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
God, yeah, I prefer you know, I prefer doors on
a boat if I could have them.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So these are the things that are going to be
poked at by the NTSB. I don't know when we're
going to hear from them, but I imagine with the amount
of information and the fact they still have scuba divers
there out of not the NTSB but local authorities there
have scuba diver divers out there recovering parts the bodies
have already been recovered. Recovering parts of the aircraft to
(16:29):
me means that there's you know, they will be able
to trace everything back to some failure if that's what
it was.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I have a question for you. You have a young child,
a son.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, eight years old? Right?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Well, with this is this going to give you pauseed? Ever?
Taking him on a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Tour, yes, and I would have Normally, I'm not that guy.
I tend to believe that, you know, hey, you gotta
everybody's doing their job. But this one did. Yeah, looking
through and I'll tell you why. And I hate to
say that because these people, you know, this is how
(17:07):
they make their living. And I you know, and I've
been on many helicopters and many helicopters tours tours, but
you know this this one. Yeah, when it comes to
my son, I'm a little different about it.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
I would not take my kids when they were younger.
I did not take them on any helicopters. In fact,
the last time I was in a helicopter was before
I had kids.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I would definitely give paus all right. Speaking of
brothers or kids, bad kids, Benanda's brothers, Michael Munk's gonna
join us, go nowhere, Neil on right now, John is off.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Neil savadra here, John is out today. Don't forget. You
have Tim Conway Junior coming up at four, and then
you have mo'kelly at seven, who has now seen on
YouTube nightly if you haven't had a chance to watch that.
I watched that the other night. It was pretty great.
It's kind of fun to see things. I wish we
all did it, but not all of us look like, mo,
(18:12):
you don't need you don't need my face. Uh, there's
a lot going on in Los Angeles and we you
know the turd that is you. If you drive around
LA right now with your windows down, you can smell
City Hall. It's a problem, and we'll get into that later.
As a matter of fact, UH Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez is
(18:33):
going to call in at two o'clock. You know, she
was the first person that I heard talk about there
were problems with accounting and UH city Hall and the
homeless situation, and that they weren't accounting properly and it
did not get traction. So now that it's getting traction
(18:57):
and people are listening to and going, oh yeah, yeah,
this is bad, we're going to talk to her coming up.
The Menendez brothers. We have our very own Michael Monks
in with us the hearing today. Have we learned anything yet?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
We have?
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Okay, no decisions have been made yet, but basically this
was a hearing that was motivated by one La County
DA Nathan Hawkman, who says, you know, our office previously
made a request to consider re sentencing these Meninez brothers
and possibly releasing them for time served, but that was
under his predecessor, George Gascon and Nathan Hakman seems to
(19:34):
be no fan of the Menindez brothers. Whatever that documentary did,
whatever that docu drama series did, it didn't affect him
at all, didn't pull out his heartstrings at all.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So he has asked the judge to allow that motion
to go away.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Now the court has its own possible resentencing coming up.
There might be a hearing next week on that matter,
but Hawkman wants his own offices motion pulled. He does
not think that the Menines brothers should be resentenced. He's
already come out and said, I don't think they deserve
a new trial. They want to get out. Let governor
knew some deal with it. So basically what he's done
at court today, prosecutors from his office have shown a
(20:08):
bloody crime scene photo from that case involving Eric and
Lolman and Dez. Because what Hawkman seems to be doing
here is reminding folks that, yeah, a lot of years
have passed. Yes, we've gotten to know that they may
have behaved mostly well in prison, maybe they've changed a
little bit. And yes, there were some Netflix or online
streaming series that pulled at people's heartstrings. But they have
(20:30):
not fully taken responsibility for a crime that was extraordinarily
gruesome and brutal.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I gotta imagine there's some blood when you shoot your
mom in the face with a shotgun.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And your dad too. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
I mean, no matter how big your house in Beverly Hills,
is that blood's going to spray.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, that's a I remember it. I remember listening to
this very program with John and Can listening to the
coverage during all of this. And and I think reasons
are important when it comes to crime. There are you know,
there are mitigating circumstances in some situations. I don't know
(21:07):
what it would take to want to shoot your parents
if I don't know what kind of whatever, abuse, whatever,
you'd have to go. However, all I know is you
are no longer okay at that point. That's just if
it is not a direct self defense situation, in the
heat of the moment, you have to them or me.
(21:29):
You got to ask yourself, Okay, you know what's going
on here, and and I think that's legit for our
you know, DA to say, hey, I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's that's basically right.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
That's exactly where the DA's office is coming from, because
what we've learned from the Menindez side of the story
is they're really hyping up the allegations that they were
sexually abused by their father, that this was an abusive household,
and that their mother knew about it, and that's how
they claim justification. That is their self defense argument. They
feared for their own lives if they did not do this.
(22:02):
So that has gotten to people. There are a lot
of people are saying, yeah, this is this seems legit.
It's been thirty five years in prison, let's reconsider this
and maybe let them go free. But what the prosecutor's
office is arguing is that the Meninna's brothers have not
shown that they understand the severity or the depravity of
their crime. So while the Meninna's brothers have come out
(22:24):
and talked about the abuse they suffered, they've talked about
the you know, so called good things they've done in prison,
they haven't come out and said, man, we did a
really bad thing back then, and I think if they
had done that, they might be seeing a different approach
from the DA's office. Handle has said this before as
an attorney off and what the judge looking at is
remorse and it's hard. As a matter of fact, I
(22:47):
think it's the top on the list before you could
even move forward. And you know that's going to be
a concern throughout the entirety of this. And I will
tell you something. You want me on my best behavior, yeah,
you could lock me up. I got nowhere to go.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I will you know if that means getting a better
meal or being left alone.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So, although I think it's helpful to know when people
are good in prison, I think you'd be good in
a prison gang. That's always tell people.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
People always go, you know, because I'm a half breed,
Because I'm a half breed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That was what I was. Just let me be clear.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
No, because I'm a half breed, people always say, well,
you know, because I identify as Latino, not that I don't
love my mom. I love my mom and I love
the European side of my family, but that's how I identify.
And so my rule is, if you were in prison,
what gang would you be in? That's who you are? Oh,
I think I would be left alone.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I don't think anyone would like me in prison, because
one I would be a snitch.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right right off.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's good to wow. I'm listening for info and I'm
giving it for you.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Oh my god, you'd be dead, walking, dead man walking.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It sounds like he's not lasting.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
No man snitches against stitches, You're dead. Mister Michael Monks,
thanks for coming. Always a players inreciate the update among
Menendez brothers. I have some thoughts on this when we return.
Neil Savedra. John Cobelt is out today.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
All right, so the Menendez brothers, there was a hearing
today to decide whether to proceed with the resentencing hearing.
Still much more that needs to be known about that.
The the thoughts I have is regardless of what happens
to you, and I think that is important. I think
things that happened to you can.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Drive you to a reaction.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I was taught a long time ago that life is
ten percent what happens to you, ninety percent how you
react to it. And that how you react to things
or what's going to set you down whatever path you're
going on.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Our system is basically made up of three parts. I mean,
these are the reasons you go to jail for rehabilitation,
which is more rare than I'd like it to be punishment,
or to protect society or the combination. Right when you're
(25:32):
looking at the Mendendez brother's story and I remember it
here on the station, I remember listening to John and
Kenn at the time and all of that, hearing these
stories unfold, is what it would take, the abuse, whatever
it is, to make you shoot your parents that way.
(26:02):
And I don't know, hope to never know my father
has passed, my beloved mom still kicking, eighty seven strong
as an ox, and I.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I also don't know how I would feel afterwards. Would
there be a euphoria, would there be the mixed feelings
being torn apart?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
But what I do know, I don't think the Menendez
brothers are rehabilitated because I think they're damaged. Sad if
all those stories are true, very sad that they were
damaged by their parents.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do I care for their parents? Knowing that no.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Better to have this planet without you if that's who
they are. But maybe maybe the damage is it's just done.
It's just done. Protect society, so rehabilitate. I don't think
they can be rehabilitated because I think they're broken. Punishment
(27:12):
is a question because you have to say, well, you know,
are they done being punished for it? I don't know
how long should you be in jail if you shoot
your parents' face off. There was a time where you
would have gone up against the you know, shooting brigade,
and you'd be done. Protect society is the one that
we have to look at, like are we are we
(27:37):
in danger by them? And I got to tell you
some people may say, no, I don't know if you're
that broken, I would air on the side of keeping
you in prison. You did a very heinous thing, and
as I talked about with our very own Michael Monks
moments ago, I've not seen remorse is a matter of fact.
(28:00):
All the stuff that they did afterwards is bizarre. But again,
and all these are allegations, I know, but never been
raped by family members, never had a mom turn or
eye or even participate or any of those things.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I don't know what that would be like.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I hope you don't know, but ultimately I don't think
they have been rehabilitated.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The punishment. I don't really.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Care in this circumstance if they've been good in prison.
I think it's much harder to be bad in prison
than people think. So that's not always I'd like to
see people be that way, but that's not always some
sort of great Yeah, okay, I haven't murdered anybody. Well
I've been in prison. Well it's really impressive. You've been
in solitaire for all that time. You haven't murdered anybody.
(28:52):
Good on you, and then protect society. I don't know
if we're protected by them. If they're at the point
of being that broken to kill your parents in that way, you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Know, Uh, I don't know that we would be safe. Well,
I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I am much happier that we have La County District
Attorney Nathan Hackman sitting in that seat to make these
decisions than we were with the wing nut that was
in that seat warming it prior Nil Savedra John is out. Uh,
we come back. LA City Council pulling funding, exploring the
(29:39):
possibility of pulling funding from a homeless agency, all kinds
of a mess. Monica Rodriguez Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez from the
seventh District is going to join us because she's the
one that I first heard complaining and sounding the alarm
last year or maybe even earlier, and now people are
(30:00):
jumping on board with this at city Hall. So we'll
talk to her when we come back.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Go nowhere.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's uh, oh, it's top of the hour. This is
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