May 9, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (05/09) - USC Professor Michael Mische joins John to address Governor Newsom’s smear campaign against him after he warned that California gas prices could soar to $9 a gallon. Then, John slams Senator Bernie Sanders for his private jet hypocrisy while preaching climate alarmism. Editor-in-chief of The California Globe Katie Grimes joins to expose the grift behind Newsom’s climate crusade. Plus: a vicious coyote attacks a leashed dog in Irvine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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are going to talk now with Michael Miche. We've had
Michael Michee on twice already in recent weeks. He is
a professor at US He's Marshall School of Business, and
he had a fascinating report a few weeks ago that
after studying fifty years of California gas prices, he came
to this conclusion Virtually all the problem has been with
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the California government. That's why you pay five bucks a
gallon for gas. It's taxes, fees, regulations. Just the hostility
has created a climate where gas ends up costing you
five bucks agall It's simple. And he found no widespread
price manipulation of price gouging. That's another big lie that
Gavin Newsom tells now he's created more more, more discomfort
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for Gavin Newsom. I think that's the word. Because two
refineries are closing over the next year and a half
or so, of the Phillips sixty six refinery here in
Los Angeles, and Valero has a refinery closing in northern California.
So Michael mcchey says that that's going to reduce the
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amount of refining by twenty one percent, which means the
price of gas could go up all the way to
eight dollars and forty three cents. You also have to
include that sixty five cent a gallon increase because of
the California Air Resources Board new low carbon regulation. So
this all comes together along with other taxes that we're
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getting increased over time. Eight dollars and forty three cents. Now,
this actually broke through and got some television coverage, and
this has caused Gavin Newsom's office to start smearing Michael
MChE and claiming that he's bankrolled by Saudi Arabia and
he's only guessing anyway, Well, let's get to Michael machee
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and see about all this. Michael, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm terrific, John, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, now, I'm certain that your research is correct if
you drew this kind of outsized response from the governor.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh, I'm stunned, absolutely stunned at the response. Didn't expect it,
thought perhaps it might be somewhat controversial. But I actually
thought i'd get a you know, a professional response like, hey, Michael,
any chances had come to Sacramento and walk us through
your thoughts. But the response that we're getting is completely shocking,
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and I must say somewhat juvenile.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, I know, it's really childish because Newsome I just
understand his character. I mean, you know, covered him for
so many years. He does not take criticism. Well, he
doesn't know how to handle it because he has developed
his political career in a state where there's no competition,
there's no other political party, and the news media is
always a bunch of lap dogs. So when he hear's
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criticism that actually is true, he shorts out. And that's
why you got the big smear. Where did he get
the idea that you're being paid by Saudi Arabia for this?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I have no clue, absolutely none. Back in twenty twenty three,
It's been disclosed since twenty eighteen. I did a piece
of work for Saudi Arabia from late twenty eighteen to
early twenty twenty one, was interrupted by COVID, and network
had nothing to do with petroleum. In fact, here's the irony,
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had everything to do with diversifying the Saudi economy away
from petroleum. It's called Vision twenty thirty and in my
particular role, along with three other very prominent, high profile
American consulting firms, was to help build a roadmap or
a blueprint for Saudi to invest in non petroleum sectors
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in their economy. And so it's kind of a perverse argument,
but I'd like to, you know, even bring it a
little further right. So you know, if you look in
twenty twenty two twenty twenty three, Saudi Arabia was one
of the primary sources of oil being imported by California.
I mean it was one or two, along with Iraq
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and Brazil, Ecuador and Guyana. It's dropped in in twenty
twenty four, but certainly twenty twenty two twenty three it
was up there. So we import a lot of oil
from Saudi Arabia. In my recommendations where we should increase
in state production of oil reduce foreign dependency. So the
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perversion to me is, well, you know, why would somebody
who's being paid by Saudi Arabia recommend that the state
increase production of oil and reduce oil imports from you know,
petro states like Saudi Arabia in Iraq.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I read your analysis, I read your analysis and recommendations,
and that's exactly right. Is that you were warning people
that if we lose our ability to refine our own
oil into gas, we are going to rely too heavily
on Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Saudi Arabia, you have other oil producing nations too. Yeah,
and so the question is, you know when we lose
these refineries, and apparently we are losing them. They've taken
billions and billions of dollars of write offs this year
on their financial statements and anticipation of closing operations. The
question then becomes where will California find the gasoline to
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make up for the production and in state production. It's
a simple question, where are you going to find it?
And then you know how much is it going to
cost to get it from those refineries because they're not
going to sell it to as cheap? And then you
have to transport it here. Well, we have no inbound pipelines,
so that means you're going to transport these millions and
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millions of gallons of gasoline a day on maritime vessels,
either from the Gulf coast through the Panama Canal and
up the coast, or most likely from Asia that would
be South Korea, China, Malaysia as far as India. So
you're putting these massive tankers on the ocean that are
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spewing out a lot of greenhouse emissions. So the concept
then becomes of what we call well to wheel. So
what is the total greenhouse effect by importing all this oil?
Are we actually increasing greenhouse emissions by doing this or
reducing greenhouse emissions? That's one. But we know we're going
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to increase the price.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So no, this is a political sphere job.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's what they do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You know, look, I like I said, I thought I
thought that the reaction would be more professional. Now, uh
and and and and certainly if I had been invited
by the governor to come up and meet with him,
I would have gotten on the first plane at my
own expense and said, look, you know, here, you know,
here's here's what the models are telling us. The models
we all know are imperfect, but we do know this
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that there are controllable components to the price of gasoline
in California. And those controllable components are the state excise tax,
the cap and trade fees, the regular the special blend fee,
the you know, Lola carbon fuel standard, uh, the seasonal
changeovers that are associated with that underground storage fee, and
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this new inventory fee it's requiring to get the refiners
to keep millions and millions of gasoline finished gasoline an
inventory just in case. The proof that all regulatory costs.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, the proof that you're right is every day I
look at the Triple A site. It has state by
state gas prices. The national price is three fourteen. The
California price is for eighty four. So we're dollars seventy
above the national average, and we're over two dollars above
states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, South Carolina.
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We're over two dollars higher than all those states that
I just mentioned. So whatever whatever we're doing here, we
stand by ourselves. Nobody else is even close. So at
your research is one hundred percent right. It's entirely state
policies and taxes and fees and regulations.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, thank you. I mean, as I said, over the
fifty year time period, we found no economic evidence of
price algae or price manipulation or supply manipulation. Yes, do
refinery shut down yes. Do they have unplanned shutdowns yes.
Do they have accidents, yes, But those are all the
facts of running something as complex and as sophisticated as
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a refinery. And I might add to California refineries are
some of the most sophisticated in the world. We measure
refinery complexity on this thing called the Nelson Index. The
average for the United States is about nine point five.
The average for the EU is about six point five.
The average for California is around fourteen. So we have
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some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. We're
really good at doing this. And so when you start
adding more burden on the refiners, such as the low
carbon fuel standard, the inventory for surplus gasoline, and oh,
by the way, let's not forget that the state is
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banning internal combustion engines.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The year twenty five. That's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You're taking the incentive and that you know, the state
puts a cap on the on the profits of the refiner.
You know, you're taking the incentive for the refiner to
remain in business in the state. So you know it's
quite logical to see both of his refineries exit.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Michael, thank you for coming on again. You know you're
doing You're doing honest research and producing facts. And the
Newsom Press office are a bunch of lying hacks. That's
just the way the political world is. They lie and
they smear people when you tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I got to run. I gotta do the news Thank
you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Thanks John.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
All right, when we come back, Bertie Sanders, the greatest
climate hypocrite of the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
M six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're gonna have Katie Grinds on from California Globe dot Com.
We're gonna keep in the the energy theme going. She
had a story on how Newsom has blown thirty three
billion dollars on climate projects, claiming it's made communities cleaner
and healthier. We're talking about real air pollution here, by
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the way, not the greenhouse gases. That's not air pollution.
Greenhouse gases are, for example, carbon dioxide, which you and
I exhale, your pets exhale, and the trees and plants
and grass they inhale the carbon dioxide. It's part of
the cycle of life. So greenhouse gases are not air pollution.
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What's air pollution is the obvious stuff that comes out
of exhausts, exhaust pipes, smoke stacks and all that. Well,
so he spends thirty three billion dollars to clean up
the air pollution, or so he claims, but his agencies
don't count the literally thousands of fires that have burned
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in California, which more than compensate for whatever savings in
air pollution that we make. And of course a lot
of these fires are caused in part by bad forestry policies.
There's too much deadwood that's left in the forests and
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it burns. We'll talk about all this with Katie Grimes
coming up after Dever's two thirty News.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, so you know, I I always.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Laughed my ass off, you know, at the idiot celebrities
like Leonardo DiCaprio, who's constantly prattling about climate change. He's
done documentaries on it, and then you read a story
about him flying off to New York City to go
dancing with twenty models.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So he's a phony.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
John Kerrey has been like a climate envoy for various administrations,
and he's always in a private plane because he married
into a very wealthy family. The Heinz ketchup fortune, Well,
we got another one here and a little bit unlikely,
but I think he's as big a grifter as anybody
in politics. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders, you know, the hero
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of the would be hero for the blue collar, hard
working crowd, the working class, the people getting screwed by
the billionaires. Zwi says it bionaiers. And he's always prattling
about bionaires. And we find out you've probably heard his
oligarchy tour. He and that dim bulb Alexandra Ocossio Cortez,
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they're going around the country and there's like tens of
thousands of wanna be hippies showing up to cheer on
Bernie and aoc. Well, he went on Fox News and
the anchor Brett Bear asked him about all the private
plane travel that he's taking to these appearances.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Free Beacon says Bernie
Sanders spent two hundred and twenty one thousand on private
jets fighting the Oligarchy tour paid for by friends of
Bernie Sanders. That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign
funds on private jet travel over the years. How do
you push back on both of those things.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
The last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign
mode at National Airport, No.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
But he's also not fighting the aligarchy.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rallies in a week, the only way
you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around.
No apologies for that. That's what a campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're going to do
it in the future.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And you think that this is hitting a mark, You
think it's scratching the itch that voters want to hear from.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I think at a time when the people on top
of doing phenomenally well, when seniors, working class people are struggling.
People want to hear action to stand up to the
people who have the wealth and the power and create
an economy that works for all of them, not just
the people on top of.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
The man is worth two million dollars and somehow owns
three homes and he's flying private planes, claiming he's fighting
the oligarchy, the bonaires.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No apologies for that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's another scam. He's another grifter. He's like everybody else.
And and I love that line. You think I'm going
to be sitting in the waiting line at United God
forbid that you're sitting and waiting in line at United Please.
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Nobody should have to suffer that, not someone as powerful
and important as you. Yeah, there's your man of the people.
You know, I know so many people who fell for
his nonsense. Is bs. He's just another one. He's always
telling everybody how greedy you all the businessman are. He's
just as greedy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No apologies for that, fine apology.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Nobody should ever apology for making money, being successful, and
enjoying a good life because of what you worked for.
I do know exactly what he did to be worth
two million dollars, or what he did to own three homes,
because you know, a senator doesn't make that much. But hey,
there's a lot of scams and rackets out there. What
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a pile of baloney.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
He is no apologies for that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
When we come back, Katie Grimes go to Newsom. He's
got the climate grift going, thirty three billion dollars he's
spent to make communities cleaner and healthier, but his agencies
never include the thousands of thousands of fires, the millions
of acres burned, which totally counteract whatever air pollution cleaning
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his agencies are doing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We'll talk about it we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to John Kobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
While we've been discussing today, among other things, the gas
prices headed towards maybe eight p fifty a gallon. A
lot of the reason that gas prices are so high
are all the taxes and fees that the Newsom administration
has shoved on refinery companies in the name of climate change.
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Newsom has spent thirty three billion dollars to allegedly make
the air cleaner and healthier, but they don't account for
all the fires over the last ten years, which has
pretty much counteracted all the alleged good work he thinks
he's done. Let's go to Katie Grimes with California Globe.
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She's got a piece on that Californiaglobe dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Katie, how are you hey, John doing well?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Thank you well?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Explain?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Explain the story that you wrote about well. The headline
says Newsom's climate Grift spent thirty three billion dollars to
make communities cleaner and healthier.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Explain that this pot of money and what did he
go to?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
This is so frustrating. I feel like I'm writing the
same article every day. So Gavin Newsom's bragging about the
fact that the funds that the state extorted essentially from
California businesses under the Cap and Trade Plan is they're
spending it on all these amazing programs that are making
your life and mind cleaner, safer, healthier, etc. Except that's
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not what's happening at all. As I note in from
one of his own graphs, one point five billion of
that was spent in wildfire prevention. And yet every report
from any credible even his own agencies, acknowledge that it's
the wildfires, the bad air that's coming out of those
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that's creating our worst air. And yet the report he
cites in his latest announcement is from the California Air
Resources Board, as I point out, which is made up
of appointees that he made, and they don't ever address wildfire.
I've got the little, you know, pie chart that the
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California Air Resources Board did showing what causes what the
contributors are to air pollution in California, and there's not
a single category for the wildfires. But boy, they've got
oil and gas in there, and transportation and heavy duty
vehicles and livestock. No wildfires.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, it's propaganda against it is those industries. But how
and by the way, I also want to separate air
pollution from greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases are not air pollution.
Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and that's what we exhale.
Every living being on the planet, animal, human exhales carbon dioxide,
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and all the trees and the plants and the grass
they inhale the carbon dioxide. That's how the grow. So
that's not pollution, that's part of the cycle of life.
The air pollution is all the obvious stuff that makes
the air sooty. And hazy that comes out of you know,
your your car's exhaust system or a smokestack or whatever,
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and whatever savings on one end has been dwarfed by
all the pollution from the wildfires.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And we've had a lot of them in the last
ten years.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
As I did a little bit of digging and found
out that since the year two thousand, which is his benchmark,
that we've gotten all this cleaner because of all the
things they're doing, California has had one hundred and ninety
four thousand plus almost one hundred ninety five thousand wildfires,
you know, some large, some small, and one hundred wait.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Wait wait, one hundred and ninety five thousand and twenty
five years.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, because every year there's many, many many, it's just
summer small, but they count them. Of course, I put
it out within a day or two, so you know this.
I put a chart in here from cal Fire that
shows the most destructive fires that have taken place since
the year two thousand, and all of them but one
were from year two thousand on, and some of them
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have been absolutely devastating. You know, of course, the campfire,
which in which eighty five people lost their lives, the
Tubs fire, the Tunnel fire. I mean, we go, you know,
we know all these fire names, and yet again there's
absolutely nothing in the California Air Resources Boards reports attributing
any of the air pollution to the wildfires.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's that criminal negligence.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
How do you take a report seriously, there's zero credibility
if you don't look at the wildfires.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
I agree, you know, and I so I quote you
know some information from the Western Fire Chiefs Association. Of
course we know what they think about wildfire smoke. But
NPR even reported that in forty one states air quality
had been getting better between two thousand and the twenty tens,
but as wildfires exploded, all those improvements stopped or reversed.
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And you know, in particular California, wildfire smoke is causing
most of California their pollution.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm looking at this list.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean the campfire, which is that one that destroyed
Paradise one hundred and fifty three thousand acres? Can you
imagine the soot in the air. You burn one hundred
and fifty three thousand acres of vegetation, and that's not
even the biggest one though, the LNU Complex Lightning Complex
fire from twenty twenty three hundred and eighty yeah, three
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hundred and sixty three thousand acres up in northern California.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Just on.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I know, the Dixie Fire nine hundred and sixty three
thousand acres in twenty twenty one, and that was in
Butte Counties, Loomis, Lashm, Shafta, and Tahemack. So imagine you know,
the air quality after that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It looks like the champion is the August Complex fire. Yes,
in northern California, over a million acres a million, thirty
two thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
And again those are primarily because of negligence. The you know,
the forests and the raw land are just tinder waiting
to be burned. And as our illustrious Congressman Tom McClintock said,
the wood gets carried out of the forest one of
two ways. We either do it ourselves and clean the
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forest up and carry it out, or the fires do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It for us.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
They had a like a religious belief in not fitting
out forests, which even the Native Americans did and believed
in for hundreds of years. We've been the worst society
at managing the forest here in California, and we paid
for it. It's totally undone all the air pollution savings
that he.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Claims, Yeah, exactly, so it's I mean, look, Governor Nwson
is probably one of the most shallow human beings to
ever grace the office in California, and so I expect
these kinds of BS reports from him. But it's incredibly
frustrating also when we can't even get our state agencies
to report accurately, like their Resources board.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
All right, Katie, good talking with you again, John, Thank
you very much. All Right, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Katie Grimes, and she's with Californiaglobe dot com and you
go read our article Newsome's climate grift spend thirty three
billion dollars to make communities cleaner and healthier, except they
don't account for the one hundred and ninety five thousand fires.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I can't believe that we've got more coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Two rounds of the mo coming up next hour, two
rounds at three twenty three fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Roughly, we can't keep to a schedule here.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I'd like to point something out. What my last newscast?
Maybe it was the last one, Yes, my two thirty.
I couldn't get through it because I started coughing. I
was dying. Actually, I think I did two or three stories,
and I even said I'm just gonna go to traving
like that. Nobody noticed, Nobody came in here, nobody said, hey,
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are you okay? Well, anybody listening?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Anybody?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was not a life threatening situation like that poor
Fox girl. It could have been she cashed out and
fell off the chair.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I get it. But I couldn't even finish my newscast.
I don't know when that's all right.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Maybe I wasn't listening.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
You were, definitely I was watching it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And I have to continue plotting.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, I know, but I could barely speak. I mean
one time, one or two times. I don't do the temperature.
But I literally couldn't finish.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
My everything blocked up. Yes, all right, well all right,
I'll try to be more attentive.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
So thank you for your concern.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But I do care. I do care. If I had
seen you, like on the screen, just fall over, I
would have been there.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
Well, I wasn't falling over but pretty close to it.
I just want to point that out.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, all right, I'll try to do better. Would I say,
all day at home, try to do better?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Laugh?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yesterday I made a story about an alligator attack, right, yes,
Remember it was a couple who was canoeing and the
canoed over the top of an alligator.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
The alligator was pissed.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was pissed, flipped the canoe up in the air
and ate the woman. Yeah. Follow up to that.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They're a study from the University of Florida followed alligator
incidents going back to the year seventeen thirty four, almost
three hundred years of alligator incidents in Florida, and they
did a lot of research. They used experts from Center
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College in Kentucky. They published the results in the Journal
of Human and Wildlife Interactions. They went they used there's
something called croc Bite Database, internet searches, literature review, interviews
with wildlife agencies. They looked at every single case for
the last three hundred years. And you know what they found.
The problem is what don't go into alligator infested waters?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Seriously, are you serious? That was the recommendation.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
That's stupid.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
They found out that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
There was one reason that caused ninety six percent of
alligator bytes. It's when you go into their that just
seems so into their their waterways. Okay, human inattention and
risk taking, they called it. Most bites occurred when you
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swim or wade in areas known to be inhabited by alligators.
Then there's the high risk behaviors deliberately entering alligator inhabited waters,
Like sometimes you drift into it and you don't know
they're alligators there, and then sometimes it's like, oh, I
don't care if they're alligators there, I'm going to go
in anyway. Low no risk behaviors if you're walking near
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water or you're simply present on land rarely resulted in attacks.
So it has to be that you are making a
ruckus in the water. You know, you're swimming, you're paddling
your canoeing.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Okay, So you basically can't go in any water in Florida.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Uh no, no, no, okay, I mean you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I've gone to the beaches the water there that's on
the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, it's the inland waterways. There's
a lot of swampy water ponds, lakes are.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
There signs all over the place. So okay, then how
do people know that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You just know if it's internal water, it's not on
the coast.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
The tourists don't necessarily know that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Around then they get eaten. You gotta take responsibility, you
know you have to. Now, I got another story here.
I'm gonna play this. I always fear this. I know
you do too. In Irvine, there's a woman named Rachel Rennie.
A coyote attacked her five year old dog while the
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dog was on the leash. And this is from ABC
seven Letitia Warez.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Rachel Rennie spends her days caring for other people's dogs,
but nothing prepared her for the moment a coyote nearly
took her own. It was Saturday evening outside her Irvine
home when Rennie took her dog's Mishka and Rocky out
before bedtime.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
I looked across the street and I saw this coyote
right across the street.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I saw it before it had.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Come up to us, and it was looking at us.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
But despite her shouts and frantic waving, the coyote zeroed
in on Rocky, her five year old Schnauzer Poodl mix.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
Grabbed him by the neck, pulled him out of his harness,
ran around the corner. I thought I had lost him.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Thankfully, neighbors heard the commotion and came out to help.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
They managed to chase the coyote off get him to
drop Rocky. They got Rocky. They brought him to me.
He was bleeding, but he was breathing and alive.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Rocky was rushed to the vet, fighting for his life.
The attack left Rennie's shaken and facing mounting bills.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
I have an emotional connection to him, and he's also,
you know, the last thing I have to my dad.
So it was worth it, especially with the chance, because
he had a chance at full recovery.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Rennie has set up a go Fundme page to help
cover Rocky's care. Meanwhile, the California Department of Fish and
Wildlife says, when attacks like this happen, pet owners need
to report the incident.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Report it so we can see, Hey, maybe there's a
trend in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
There's a high number of incidents that occur, and we
would go out there and investigate.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Rock is now on the road to recovery. Rennie says,
the next time she takes her dogs out, she'll have
them on more than just.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
A leash just because you're there. They're not safe. They
need other precautions. What are you going to bang a
coyote vest for my dog?
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Wildlife experts also recommend avoiding walking your pets during the
early morning hours or at dusk, when coyotes are most active.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Coyotes are active all day long. Let me tell you,
at least in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Souse, they're hungry all day long. Yeah, they're in my
neighborhood too. We'll be in the hills. I'm right near
the hills. You're actually right on your mountaintop of state
and there are I passed by one within a quarter
mile my house the other day and they're really scraggly.
They look like gang members. They ought to have tattoos
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and shaved heads. I mean, they really look menacing and
they do. They eat dogs and cats. The first time
we lived out here, actually the first night we were
in LA, they put us up in Burbank.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I forgot the name of that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It was that temporary stay hotel that corporate people are
at Oakwood Apartments of Burbank, Okay. So that's where they
put us up when we first came to Los Angeles
and in the middle of the night, I woke up
briefly and I heard all this howling and it was
the coyotes, which at the time I thought was cool.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
But then we.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Moved into the hills off betty To Canyon and I
heard another series of sounds.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I heard the coyotes.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Please, don't you know what I'm talking?
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I know because I hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, for it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And you'll hear barking dogs and then suddenly the barking
stops because the coyote has its consuming the dog.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's there. It's said. Well, come from New Jersey.
We don't have this kind of excitement.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I wouldn't call it excitement. It's scary.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
There there they are. They are really psychotic. I mean
they have no conscience at all, no remorse. Well they
see you, they eat you.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They'd eat you.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
Yeah, I know. I worry about coyotes all the time.
I do. And maybe other people have suggested that I
get my dog's a coyote vest. I still haven't.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
How does that work.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
It's a vest that has spikes all over it, so
if a coyote tries to get the dog. I mean
it's going to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Then you're going to get the coyote really mad. Then
he's gonna eat, then he's.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Going to come after me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah right, that's true.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Maybe that's not a good You gotta walks, have to
wear a coyote vest, coyote proof vest.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
All right, we come back from from one fear to
the next. Newark Airport, the radar screens went dark again
and in San Francisco and they had two incidents. Yes,
our our federal airline system is collapsing sucks. Yeah, it's
it's it's I don't think this is media hype. I
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think we went way too long, Like we went thirty
five years without an upgrade.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Well talk about we come back.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Two ends of the Moistline Deverver Mark live in the
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You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio
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our shows you could listen to all weekend long. We
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are going to talk now with Michael Miche. We've had
Michael Michee on twice already in recent weeks. He is
a professor at US He's Marshall School of Business, and
he had a fascinating report a few weeks ago that
after studying fifty years of California gas prices, he came
to this conclusion Virtually all the problem has been with
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the California government. That's why you pay five bucks a
gallon for gas. It's taxes, fees, regulations. Just the hostility
has created a climate where gas ends up costing you
five bucks agall It's simple. And he found no widespread
price manipulation of price gouging. That's another big lie that
Gavin Newsom tells now he's created more more, more discomfort
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for Gavin Newsom. I think that's the word. Because two
refineries are closing over the next year and a half
or so, of the Phillips sixty six refinery here in
Los Angeles, and Valero has a refinery closing in northern California.
So Michael mcchey says that that's going to reduce the
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amount of refining by twenty one percent, which means the
price of gas could go up all the way to
eight dollars and forty three cents. You also have to
include that sixty five cent a gallon increase because of
the California Air Resources Board new low carbon regulation. So
this all comes together along with other taxes that we're
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getting increased over time. Eight dollars and forty three cents. Now,
this actually broke through and got some television coverage, and
this has caused Gavin Newsom's office to start smearing Michael
MChE and claiming that he's bankrolled by Saudi Arabia and
he's only guessing anyway, Well, let's get to Michael machee
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and see about all this. Michael, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm terrific, John, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, now, I'm certain that your research is correct if
you drew this kind of outsized response from the governor.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh, I'm stunned, absolutely stunned at the response. Didn't expect it,
thought perhaps it might be somewhat controversial. But I actually
thought i'd get a you know, a professional response like, hey, Michael,
any chances had come to Sacramento and walk us through
your thoughts. But the response that we're getting is completely shocking,
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and I must say somewhat juvenile.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, I know, it's really childish because Newsome I just
understand his character. I mean, you know, covered him for
so many years. He does not take criticism. Well, he
doesn't know how to handle it because he has developed
his political career in a state where there's no competition,
there's no other political party, and the news media is
always a bunch of lap dogs. So when he hear's
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criticism that actually is true, he shorts out. And that's
why you got the big smear. Where did he get
the idea that you're being paid by Saudi Arabia for this?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I have no clue, absolutely none. Back in twenty twenty three,
It's been disclosed since twenty eighteen. I did a piece
of work for Saudi Arabia from late twenty eighteen to
early twenty twenty one, was interrupted by COVID, and network
had nothing to do with petroleum. In fact, here's the irony,
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had everything to do with diversifying the Saudi economy away
from petroleum. It's called Vision twenty thirty and in my
particular role, along with three other very prominent, high profile
American consulting firms, was to help build a roadmap or
a blueprint for Saudi to invest in non petroleum sectors
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in their economy. And so it's kind of a perverse argument,
but I'd like to, you know, even bring it a
little further right. So you know, if you look in
twenty twenty two twenty twenty three, Saudi Arabia was one
of the primary sources of oil being imported by California.
I mean it was one or two, along with Iraq
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and Brazil, Ecuador and Guyana. It's dropped in in twenty
twenty four, but certainly twenty twenty two twenty three it
was up there. So we import a lot of oil
from Saudi Arabia. In my recommendations where we should increase
in state production of oil reduce foreign dependency. So the
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perversion to me is, well, you know, why would somebody
who's being paid by Saudi Arabia recommend that the state
increase production of oil and reduce oil imports from you know,
petro states like Saudi Arabia in Iraq.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I read your analysis, I read your analysis and recommendations,
and that's exactly right. Is that you were warning people
that if we lose our ability to refine our own
oil into gas, we are going to rely too heavily
on Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Saudi Arabia, you have other oil producing nations too. Yeah,
and so the question is, you know when we lose
these refineries, and apparently we are losing them. They've taken
billions and billions of dollars of write offs this year
on their financial statements and anticipation of closing operations. The
question then becomes where will California find the gasoline to
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make up for the production and in state production. It's
a simple question, where are you going to find it?
And then you know how much is it going to
cost to get it from those refineries because they're not
going to sell it to as cheap? And then you
have to transport it here. Well, we have no inbound pipelines,
so that means you're going to transport these millions and
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millions of gallons of gasoline a day on maritime vessels,
either from the Gulf coast through the Panama Canal and
up the coast, or most likely from Asia that would
be South Korea, China, Malaysia as far as India. So
you're putting these massive tankers on the ocean that are
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spewing out a lot of greenhouse emissions. So the concept
then becomes of what we call well to wheel. So
what is the total greenhouse effect by importing all this oil?
Are we actually increasing greenhouse emissions by doing this or
reducing greenhouse emissions? That's one. But we know we're going
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to increase the price.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So no, this is a political sphere job.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's what they do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You know, look, I like I said, I thought I
thought that the reaction would be more professional. Now, uh
and and and and certainly if I had been invited
by the governor to come up and meet with him,
I would have gotten on the first plane at my
own expense and said, look, you know, here, you know,
here's here's what the models are telling us. The models
we all know are imperfect, but we do know this
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that there are controllable components to the price of gasoline
in California. And those controllable components are the state excise tax,
the cap and trade fees, the regular the special blend fee,
the you know, Lola carbon fuel standard, uh, the seasonal
changeovers that are associated with that underground storage fee, and
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this new inventory fee it's requiring to get the refiners
to keep millions and millions of gasoline finished gasoline an
inventory just in case. The proof that all regulatory costs.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, the proof that you're right is every day I
look at the Triple A site. It has state by
state gas prices. The national price is three fourteen. The
California price is for eighty four. So we're dollars seventy
above the national average, and we're over two dollars above
states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, South Carolina.
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We're over two dollars higher than all those states that
I just mentioned. So whatever whatever we're doing here, we
stand by ourselves. Nobody else is even close. So at
your research is one hundred percent right. It's entirely state
policies and taxes and fees and regulations.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, thank you. I mean, as I said, over the
fifty year time period, we found no economic evidence of
price algae or price manipulation or supply manipulation. Yes, do
refinery shut down yes. Do they have unplanned shutdowns yes.
Do they have accidents, yes, But those are all the
facts of running something as complex and as sophisticated as
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a refinery. And I might add to California refineries are
some of the most sophisticated in the world. We measure
refinery complexity on this thing called the Nelson Index. The
average for the United States is about nine point five.
The average for the EU is about six point five.
The average for California is around fourteen. So we have
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some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. We're
really good at doing this. And so when you start
adding more burden on the refiners, such as the low
carbon fuel standard, the inventory for surplus gasoline, and oh,
by the way, let's not forget that the state is
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banning internal combustion engines.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The year twenty five. That's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You're taking the incentive and that you know, the state
puts a cap on the on the profits of the refiner.
You know, you're taking the incentive for the refiner to
remain in business in the state. So you know it's
quite logical to see both of his refineries exit.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Michael, thank you for coming on again. You know you're
doing You're doing honest research and producing facts. And the
Newsom Press office are a bunch of lying hacks. That's
just the way the political world is. They lie and
they smear people when you tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I got to run. I gotta do the news Thank
you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Thanks John.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
All right, when we come back, Bertie Sanders, the greatest
climate hypocrite of the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
M six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're gonna have Katie Grinds on from California Globe dot Com.
We're gonna keep in the the energy theme going. She
had a story on how Newsom has blown thirty three
billion dollars on climate projects, claiming it's made communities cleaner
and healthier. We're talking about real air pollution here, by
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the way, not the greenhouse gases. That's not air pollution.
Greenhouse gases are, for example, carbon dioxide, which you and
I exhale, your pets exhale, and the trees and plants
and grass they inhale the carbon dioxide. It's part of
the cycle of life. So greenhouse gases are not air pollution.
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What's air pollution is the obvious stuff that comes out
of exhausts, exhaust pipes, smoke stacks and all that. Well,
so he spends thirty three billion dollars to clean up
the air pollution, or so he claims, but his agencies
don't count the literally thousands of fires that have burned
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in California, which more than compensate for whatever savings in
air pollution that we make. And of course a lot
of these fires are caused in part by bad forestry policies.
There's too much deadwood that's left in the forests and
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it burns. We'll talk about all this with Katie Grimes
coming up after Dever's two thirty News.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, so you know, I I always.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Laughed my ass off, you know, at the idiot celebrities
like Leonardo DiCaprio, who's constantly prattling about climate change. He's
done documentaries on it, and then you read a story
about him flying off to New York City to go
dancing with twenty models.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So he's a phony.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
John Kerrey has been like a climate envoy for various administrations,
and he's always in a private plane because he married
into a very wealthy family. The Heinz ketchup fortune, Well,
we got another one here and a little bit unlikely,
but I think he's as big a grifter as anybody
in politics. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders, you know, the hero
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of the would be hero for the blue collar, hard
working crowd, the working class, the people getting screwed by
the billionaires. Zwi says it bionaiers. And he's always prattling
about bionaires. And we find out you've probably heard his
oligarchy tour. He and that dim bulb Alexandra Ocossio Cortez,
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they're going around the country and there's like tens of
thousands of wanna be hippies showing up to cheer on
Bernie and aoc. Well, he went on Fox News and
the anchor Brett Bear asked him about all the private
plane travel that he's taking to these appearances.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Free Beacon says Bernie
Sanders spent two hundred and twenty one thousand on private
jets fighting the Oligarchy tour paid for by friends of
Bernie Sanders. That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign
funds on private jet travel over the years. How do
you push back on both of those things.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
The last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign
mode at National Airport, No.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
But he's also not fighting the aligarchy.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rallies in a week, the only way
you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around.
No apologies for that. That's what a campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're going to do
it in the future.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And you think that this is hitting a mark, You
think it's scratching the itch that voters want to hear from.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I think at a time when the people on top
of doing phenomenally well, when seniors, working class people are struggling.
People want to hear action to stand up to the
people who have the wealth and the power and create
an economy that works for all of them, not just
the people on top of.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
The man is worth two million dollars and somehow owns
three homes and he's flying private planes, claiming he's fighting
the oligarchy, the bonaires.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No apologies for that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's another scam. He's another grifter. He's like everybody else.
And and I love that line. You think I'm going
to be sitting in the waiting line at United God
forbid that you're sitting and waiting in line at United Please.
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Nobody should have to suffer that, not someone as powerful
and important as you. Yeah, there's your man of the people.
You know, I know so many people who fell for
his nonsense. Is bs. He's just another one. He's always
telling everybody how greedy you all the businessman are. He's
just as greedy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No apologies for that, fine apology.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Nobody should ever apology for making money, being successful, and
enjoying a good life because of what you worked for.
I do know exactly what he did to be worth
two million dollars, or what he did to own three homes,
because you know, a senator doesn't make that much. But hey,
there's a lot of scams and rackets out there. What
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a pile of baloney.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
He is no apologies for that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
When we come back, Katie Grimes go to Newsom. He's
got the climate grift going, thirty three billion dollars he's
spent to make communities cleaner and healthier, but his agencies
never include the thousands of thousands of fires, the millions
of acres burned, which totally counteract whatever air pollution cleaning
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his agencies are doing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We'll talk about it we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to John Kobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
While we've been discussing today, among other things, the gas
prices headed towards maybe eight p fifty a gallon. A
lot of the reason that gas prices are so high
are all the taxes and fees that the Newsom administration
has shoved on refinery companies in the name of climate change.
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Newsom has spent thirty three billion dollars to allegedly make
the air cleaner and healthier, but they don't account for
all the fires over the last ten years, which has
pretty much counteracted all the alleged good work he thinks
he's done. Let's go to Katie Grimes with California Globe.
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She's got a piece on that Californiaglobe dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Katie, how are you hey, John doing well?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Thank you well?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Explain?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Explain the story that you wrote about well. The headline
says Newsom's climate Grift spent thirty three billion dollars to
make communities cleaner and healthier.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Explain that this pot of money and what did he
go to?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
This is so frustrating. I feel like I'm writing the
same article every day. So Gavin Newsom's bragging about the
fact that the funds that the state extorted essentially from
California businesses under the Cap and Trade Plan is they're
spending it on all these amazing programs that are making
your life and mind cleaner, safer, healthier, etc. Except that's
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not what's happening at all. As I note in from
one of his own graphs, one point five billion of
that was spent in wildfire prevention. And yet every report
from any credible even his own agencies, acknowledge that it's
the wildfires, the bad air that's coming out of those
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that's creating our worst air. And yet the report he
cites in his latest announcement is from the California Air
Resources Board, as I point out, which is made up
of appointees that he made, and they don't ever address wildfire.
I've got the little, you know, pie chart that the
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California Air Resources Board did showing what causes what the
contributors are to air pollution in California, and there's not
a single category for the wildfires. But boy, they've got
oil and gas in there, and transportation and heavy duty
vehicles and livestock. No wildfires.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, it's propaganda against it is those industries. But how
and by the way, I also want to separate air
pollution from greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases are not air pollution.
Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and that's what we exhale.
Every living being on the planet, animal, human exhales carbon dioxide,
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and all the trees and the plants and the grass
they inhale the carbon dioxide. That's how the grow. So
that's not pollution, that's part of the cycle of life.
The air pollution is all the obvious stuff that makes
the air sooty. And hazy that comes out of you know,
your your car's exhaust system or a smokestack or whatever,
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and whatever savings on one end has been dwarfed by
all the pollution from the wildfires.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And we've had a lot of them in the last
ten years.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
As I did a little bit of digging and found
out that since the year two thousand, which is his benchmark,
that we've gotten all this cleaner because of all the
things they're doing, California has had one hundred and ninety
four thousand plus almost one hundred ninety five thousand wildfires,
you know, some large, some small, and one hundred wait.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Wait wait, one hundred and ninety five thousand and twenty
five years.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, because every year there's many, many many, it's just
summer small, but they count them. Of course, I put
it out within a day or two, so you know this.
I put a chart in here from cal Fire that
shows the most destructive fires that have taken place since
the year two thousand, and all of them but one
were from year two thousand on, and some of them
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have been absolutely devastating. You know, of course, the campfire,
which in which eighty five people lost their lives, the
Tubs fire, the Tunnel fire. I mean, we go, you know,
we know all these fire names, and yet again there's
absolutely nothing in the California Air Resources Boards reports attributing
any of the air pollution to the wildfires.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's that criminal negligence.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
How do you take a report seriously, there's zero credibility
if you don't look at the wildfires.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
I agree, you know, and I so I quote you
know some information from the Western Fire Chiefs Association. Of
course we know what they think about wildfire smoke. But
NPR even reported that in forty one states air quality
had been getting better between two thousand and the twenty tens,
but as wildfires exploded, all those improvements stopped or reversed.
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And you know, in particular California, wildfire smoke is causing
most of California their pollution.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm looking at this list.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean the campfire, which is that one that destroyed
Paradise one hundred and fifty three thousand acres? Can you
imagine the soot in the air. You burn one hundred
and fifty three thousand acres of vegetation, and that's not
even the biggest one though, the LNU Complex Lightning Complex
fire from twenty twenty three hundred and eighty yeah, three
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hundred and sixty three thousand acres up in northern California.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Just on.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I know, the Dixie Fire nine hundred and sixty three
thousand acres in twenty twenty one, and that was in
Butte Counties, Loomis, Lashm, Shafta, and Tahemack. So imagine you know,
the air quality after that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It looks like the champion is the August Complex fire. Yes,
in northern California, over a million acres a million, thirty
two thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
And again those are primarily because of negligence. The you know,
the forests and the raw land are just tinder waiting
to be burned. And as our illustrious Congressman Tom McClintock said,
the wood gets carried out of the forest one of
two ways. We either do it ourselves and clean the
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forest up and carry it out, or the fires do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It for us.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
They had a like a religious belief in not fitting
out forests, which even the Native Americans did and believed
in for hundreds of years. We've been the worst society
at managing the forest here in California, and we paid
for it. It's totally undone all the air pollution savings
that he.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Claims, Yeah, exactly, so it's I mean, look, Governor Nwson
is probably one of the most shallow human beings to
ever grace the office in California, and so I expect
these kinds of BS reports from him. But it's incredibly
frustrating also when we can't even get our state agencies
to report accurately, like their Resources board.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
All right, Katie, good talking with you again, John, Thank
you very much. All Right, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Katie Grimes, and she's with Californiaglobe dot com and you
go read our article Newsome's climate grift spend thirty three
billion dollars to make communities cleaner and healthier, except they
don't account for the one hundred and ninety five thousand fires.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I can't believe that we've got more coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Two rounds of the mo coming up next hour, two
rounds at three twenty three fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Roughly, we can't keep to a schedule here.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I'd like to point something out. What my last newscast?
Maybe it was the last one, Yes, my two thirty.
I couldn't get through it because I started coughing. I
was dying. Actually, I think I did two or three stories,
and I even said I'm just gonna go to traving
like that. Nobody noticed, Nobody came in here, nobody said, hey,
(25:32):
are you okay? Well, anybody listening?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Anybody?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was not a life threatening situation like that poor
Fox girl. It could have been she cashed out and
fell off the chair.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I get it. But I couldn't even finish my newscast.
I don't know when that's all right.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Maybe I wasn't listening.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
You were, definitely I was watching it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And I have to continue plotting.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, I know, but I could barely speak. I mean
one time, one or two times. I don't do the temperature.
But I literally couldn't finish.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
My everything blocked up. Yes, all right, well all right,
I'll try to be more attentive.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
So thank you for your concern.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But I do care. I do care. If I had
seen you, like on the screen, just fall over, I
would have been there.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
Well, I wasn't falling over but pretty close to it.
I just want to point that out.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, all right, I'll try to do better. Would I say,
all day at home, try to do better?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Laugh?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yesterday I made a story about an alligator attack, right, yes,
Remember it was a couple who was canoeing and the
canoed over the top of an alligator.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
The alligator was pissed.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was pissed, flipped the canoe up in the air
and ate the woman. Yeah. Follow up to that.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They're a study from the University of Florida followed alligator
incidents going back to the year seventeen thirty four, almost
three hundred years of alligator incidents in Florida, and they
did a lot of research. They used experts from Center
(27:12):
College in Kentucky. They published the results in the Journal
of Human and Wildlife Interactions. They went they used there's
something called croc Bite Database, internet searches, literature review, interviews
with wildlife agencies. They looked at every single case for
the last three hundred years. And you know what they found.
The problem is what don't go into alligator infested waters?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Seriously, are you serious? That was the recommendation.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
That's stupid.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
They found out that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
There was one reason that caused ninety six percent of
alligator bytes. It's when you go into their that just
seems so into their their waterways. Okay, human inattention and
risk taking, they called it. Most bites occurred when you
(28:02):
swim or wade in areas known to be inhabited by alligators.
Then there's the high risk behaviors deliberately entering alligator inhabited waters,
Like sometimes you drift into it and you don't know
they're alligators there, and then sometimes it's like, oh, I
don't care if they're alligators there, I'm going to go
in anyway. Low no risk behaviors if you're walking near
(28:24):
water or you're simply present on land rarely resulted in attacks.
So it has to be that you are making a
ruckus in the water. You know, you're swimming, you're paddling
your canoeing.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Okay, So you basically can't go in any water in Florida.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Uh no, no, no, okay, I mean you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I've gone to the beaches the water there that's on
the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, it's the inland waterways. There's
a lot of swampy water ponds, lakes are.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
There signs all over the place. So okay, then how
do people know that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You just know if it's internal water, it's not on
the coast.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
The tourists don't necessarily know that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Around then they get eaten. You gotta take responsibility, you
know you have to. Now, I got another story here.
I'm gonna play this. I always fear this. I know
you do too. In Irvine, there's a woman named Rachel Rennie.
A coyote attacked her five year old dog while the
(29:28):
dog was on the leash. And this is from ABC
seven Letitia Warez.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Rachel Rennie spends her days caring for other people's dogs,
but nothing prepared her for the moment a coyote nearly
took her own. It was Saturday evening outside her Irvine
home when Rennie took her dog's Mishka and Rocky out
before bedtime.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
I looked across the street and I saw this coyote
right across the street.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I saw it before it had.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Come up to us, and it was looking at us.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
But despite her shouts and frantic waving, the coyote zeroed
in on Rocky, her five year old Schnauzer Poodl mix.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
Grabbed him by the neck, pulled him out of his harness,
ran around the corner. I thought I had lost him.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Thankfully, neighbors heard the commotion and came out to help.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
They managed to chase the coyote off get him to
drop Rocky. They got Rocky. They brought him to me.
He was bleeding, but he was breathing and alive.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Rocky was rushed to the vet, fighting for his life.
The attack left Rennie's shaken and facing mounting bills.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
I have an emotional connection to him, and he's also,
you know, the last thing I have to my dad.
So it was worth it, especially with the chance, because
he had a chance at full recovery.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Rennie has set up a go Fundme page to help
cover Rocky's care. Meanwhile, the California Department of Fish and
Wildlife says, when attacks like this happen, pet owners need
to report the incident.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Report it so we can see, Hey, maybe there's a
trend in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
There's a high number of incidents that occur, and we
would go out there and investigate.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Rock is now on the road to recovery. Rennie says,
the next time she takes her dogs out, she'll have
them on more than just.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
A leash just because you're there. They're not safe. They
need other precautions. What are you going to bang a
coyote vest for my dog?
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Wildlife experts also recommend avoiding walking your pets during the
early morning hours or at dusk, when coyotes are most active.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Coyotes are active all day long. Let me tell you,
at least in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Souse, they're hungry all day long. Yeah, they're in my
neighborhood too. We'll be in the hills. I'm right near
the hills. You're actually right on your mountaintop of state
and there are I passed by one within a quarter
mile my house the other day and they're really scraggly.
They look like gang members. They ought to have tattoos
(31:47):
and shaved heads. I mean, they really look menacing and
they do. They eat dogs and cats. The first time
we lived out here, actually the first night we were
in LA, they put us up in Burbank.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I forgot the name of that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It was that temporary stay hotel that corporate people are
at Oakwood Apartments of Burbank, Okay. So that's where they
put us up when we first came to Los Angeles
and in the middle of the night, I woke up
briefly and I heard all this howling and it was
the coyotes, which at the time I thought was cool.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
But then we.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Moved into the hills off betty To Canyon and I
heard another series of sounds.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I heard the coyotes.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Please, don't you know what I'm talking?
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I know because I hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, for it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And you'll hear barking dogs and then suddenly the barking
stops because the coyote has its consuming the dog.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's there. It's said. Well, come from New Jersey.
We don't have this kind of excitement.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I wouldn't call it excitement. It's scary.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, it's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
There there they are. They are really psychotic. I mean
they have no conscience at all, no remorse. Well they
see you, they eat you.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They'd eat you.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
Yeah, I know. I worry about coyotes all the time.
I do. And maybe other people have suggested that I
get my dog's a coyote vest. I still haven't.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
How does that work.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
It's a vest that has spikes all over it, so
if a coyote tries to get the dog. I mean
it's going to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Then you're going to get the coyote really mad. Then
he's gonna eat, then he's.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Going to come after me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah right, that's true.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Maybe that's not a good You gotta walks, have to
wear a coyote vest, coyote proof vest.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
All right, we come back from from one fear to
the next. Newark Airport, the radar screens went dark again
and in San Francisco and they had two incidents. Yes,
our our federal airline system is collapsing sucks. Yeah, it's
it's it's I don't think this is media hype. I
(33:54):
think we went way too long, Like we went thirty
five years without an upgrade.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Well talk about we come back.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
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