May 14, 2025 • 36 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (05/14) - John slams the growing campaign to free the Menendez Brothers and blames California’s broken justice system and Governor Newsom’s soft-on-crime legacy. He blasts the state’s ballooning budget crisis, driven in part by offering free healthcare to over a million illegal immigrants, all while Newsom points fingers at President Trump. Guest Michael Shellenberger joins to expose Newsom’s record on homelessness, crime, and his desperate pivot to the political center as he eyes the White House.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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have Michael Sellenberger on, the journalist and author. We've had
him on quite a few times over the years and
he has a great news site, public dot news and
analyzing a lot of California government news and Gavin Newsom,
and he'll be on after one thirty to talk about
Newsom because he he he had a piece this week
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entitled to Gavin Newsom is the worst Governor in America,
zeroing in on the homelessness crisis and Gavin Newsom's role
in spending an enormous amount of money, even more than
I knew and making it a lot worse and uh,
it's he really it's quite an indictment that Schellenberger lays out.
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And so we'll get to that coming up after one
thirty now, uh next hour at two o'clock. Two trials
that we're going to cover in detail. One the Menendez brothers,
Michael Monks the resentencing, which I want to talk about
in just a minute. And then Laura Ingle is going
to be on to talk about the Ditty trial because
there's so many disgusting aspects to that. So Menendez and
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the Ditties or the Menendez Is and Diddy coming up,
and I tell you I I'll let Michael go into
the details of what happened yesterday at the hearing, but
the headline is they are gonna they got resentenced. It's
possible they could, they can get paroled and get out soon.
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And Michael talked about what went on in the courtroom yesterday.
What I want to talk about. I want to start
out by saying how much I hate the existence of
the Menendez brothers. I just hate that they exist, that
they're alive, that they weren't executed. I hate the story
very much. I hate all the stupid documentaries about them.
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I hate the TikTok people that glamorize and worship these
two bastards. These are sick, violent, psychopaths. I hate Mark
Garrigos prancing around acting like he's the savior for justice
because he should know better. I mean, he he's just
always doing theater, pays the bills. But the idea that
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the world's going to be a better place because Lyon
Menendez Lyon and Eric Menendez are going to be walking
free is just such an atrocity. It's not quite as
bad as oj being released because at least these two
a holes spent thirty five years in prison. Do you
know what they're Do you know what their original sentence was?
And in fact, because there has been so much, much
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long running debate about them getting out, getting resentenced, getting paroled,
I actually forgot what was the original six.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Wasn't it life without parole?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Correct? Very good, you're off to a hot start today.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes, it was a life sentence without parole for both
of them. So I'm thinking, how sick did this state get?
And it's a voter's fault. It's your fault if you
vote this way. You've repeatedly voted for this progressive legislature,
which I'm not even going to use the term whittled.
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They took an axe and they chopped the justice system apart,
and it's laying now in pieces. It's busted. And now
you have two guys who blew their parents' heads off
with shotgun blasts and have been able to manipulate the
system so they could be out free in a matter
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of months. I guess it could happened quickly. How do
you go from life without parole? Shouldn't there be? Is
this asking too much that if you're sentenced to life
without parole, that's it? How do you end up with parole?
How do you end up well short of a life sentence?
On top of that, they killed two people, so the
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judge back in the mid nineties sentenced them consecutively to
life without parole.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So it's life without parole.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You die, they dig your body up, and then it's
another life sentence without parole. So don't wonder why I
want the death penalty for people. This is exactly why,
this is why we should execute people, and execute them
in a matter of months, in fact, execute them before
they even appeal, especially the mother, the mother who did
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not sexually abuse them. They blew off dad's head, then
they reloaded their rifles and mom is crawling away on
the floor, and then they blow off her head.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And for that you get out of prison in your fifties.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's darned words beyond disgusting, revolting, appalling, hideous, obscene. I'm
out of words. Maybe I should start talking French. There's
no English words left. But who started this? Gascone? Right,
He's the one who filed the original request. This is
Gascone's last gift. He left in the toilet, started the
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process of Menendez gets out and then these horrific laws
that were passed by this insane legislature. And you know what,
other people get let out this way as well. We
just don't know about him because they weren't famous, but
they've been letting other killers out.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now ultimately Newsom as the power here, which does slightly
entertain me.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, you know what I'm thinking, because Newsom seems to
be changing course and wanting to be less progressive.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not going to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
If he says no way, only because he's running for president.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He can block the parole. Yes, and although I think
there's even mechanisms the Menendi will have even beyond that,
but he can block the parole. He can also choose
not to give him clemency because that was another avenue
where he just basically says, all right, you served enough time,
and the governor has those powers. You know, president has
those powers too. And I'm wondering I was thinking the
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same thing you did, because he is. He's running pretty
fast away some of his away from his old disastrous positions,
at least rhetorically. He hasn't changed any policies yet. That's
something I want to talk with Michael Schellenberger about when
he comes on too. You know about Newsomb clearly running
for president and shedding words the rhetoric on some of
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his policies. But he hasn't changed anything because you NewsOne
remember blocked the release of Sir Hans Sir Haan, who
was the killer of Robert F. Kennedy, and Robert F.
Kennedy was Newsome's idol. In fact, I think he still
has a portrait of Kennedy in the hallway leading to
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his office, and I thought, you know what, he's not
gonna He's not going to sign off on parole for
Sir Hans Sir Han. Now, this is the guy murdered
your id all, He's not going to do it. I
mean Kennedy is the reason. You know, the little child
that Gavin Newsom was and it still is in many ways.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He did that photo spread right in Vanity.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Fair recreating uh John and Jackie Kennedy. Yes, with Kimberly
gild Girl Foyle played the.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Role of Jackie Kennedy. He played the role of John Kennedy,
which reminds me I got a turn of commercial. I
just show these photos that Michael Schellenberger dug up to
illustrate his his story on Newsome being the worst governor.
Found photos when Newsom was twenty four years old standing
with two of the young Getty's. You know, the Gettys
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bankrolled Newsom both in his fake wine Empire Wine and
Restaurant Empire, but also his political campaigns. And I got
a photo of you of him me, well, you were
in there too.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh well, And you know it's stunning how good looking
he was at the age of twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But he looks like such a rich boy, such a
pretty boy. It's it's it's weird, it's spooky. Actually doesn't
doesn't look human. I mean, his face is so perfectly carved,
his hair is so perfectly quaffed, and I just I
can imagine the kind kind of attitude that he's walked
around with all his life. Now he's dumb as a
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board because nobody gets all the gifts, right, A lot
of times good looking people are not are not the
sharpest tool, and many times really smart people are a
bit hideous to look at. You know, he just say,
you know, you know, get everything. But he he was
exceptionally handsome, and he can't let he so he stops
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or Hansarhan getting out all this all this stuff that's
going on in California, and he's running for president and
it's so hideous and much of the country is gonna
hate it. Is he gonna let the Menenda's brothers out
new some signs off to release the Menenda's brother He's
going to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Although do people care as much about that as they
do about the gas prices in the homeless situation?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, but but they that's but that's affects us in California, right,
I'm thinking about issues they're going to play out, you know,
in Maine or Nebraska, Nebraska or South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Are people going to care that he let the Menendez
brothers out in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
M it's it's going to resonate because it seems so absurd.
I think most everyone knows the Menendez story and the
idea that those guys are good free. I don't know
if it'll make a difference or not, But what I'm
saying is he's got enough trouble. Is he really going
to add that one? Because that's a headline that's going
to stick for a week.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I say no, I say he's not going to He's
not going to agree to them being rolled or giving
them clemency.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's my I'm just glad.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He's in the box right now because he is going
to be in a box to actually sign off on
this thing. But it's just it's just so overwhelmingly horrible.
There's violent psychopaths. There's no rehabilitation. I hear garag is
doing his clown show act about rehabilitation. He's helped other prisoners.
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That is total garbage, absolute nonsense. BS. There's no such thing.
Psychopathic behavior is a permanent affliction. No one has ever recovered.
There's no there's no medication for it. There's no cure psychopaths.
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I have no conscience, no remorse, they don't. It didn't
bother them for what they did. Doesn't make a difference
that they killed their parents so brutally, and the idea
that they're victims is absurd. And seeing that pathetic family
talking about not only the Menendez brothers were victims, but
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they the surviving family members are victims. It's like, God,
this horrible infection. It's worse than COVID, this victimhood infection.
Everybody's a victim and they have social status because of it.
They think they're to hire more a plane because they're victims.
We come back before we talk with Michael Sellenberger, newsom's
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latest backtracking today on another May your Signature issue.
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we recorded it a few hours ago Debora Cobet live
on YouTube and you could see me in color. Michael
Sellenberger coming up after one thirty. He's got a new
column this week on Gavin Newsom being the worst governor
governor in America and he can prove that statement too.
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And Newsome in his eternal quest to reinvent himself as
a plausible presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I sit down. You're not going to believe this.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
He wants to cut healthcare for illegal aliens. Maybe you
don't know this, and maybe I should break it to
you slowly if you don't know this, but we are
spending over twelve billion dollars of your tax money on
illegal alien healthcare. They started this incrementally. They wanted to
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give it to children. Oh, you can't complain about that.
Then they wanted to give it to the elderly. Well,
the elderly need, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It became everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then it became cradle to grave free healthcare coverage. Now
the federal government doesn't pay for that, that's a Medicaid,
So the state government has to pay for the illegal aliens.
That's met a cow do you know how many illegal
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aliens are getting free healthcare right now? You ready for this,
including you soft hearted, soft headed progressive dopes. A million,
six hundred thousand illegal aliens are getting free healthcare and
you're paying for it. And I'm paying for it, and
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I don't know about you, but I don't want to
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
A million, six a million, six hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Can you imagine you can't get a pothole fixed, but
they got a million, six hundred thousand for people who
broke the law and came over the border illegally. Newsom
is an idiot, an absolute idiot. And now he's bitching
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about his budget being in the red. Well, of course
it's in the red. It's twelve and a half billion dollars.
It's double what he thought it was. This is how
stupid he is. You give out free healthcare, you're gonna
get more illegal aliens coming to California. I mean, all
you gotta do is scroll TikTok. If you're an illegal
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alien and somebody's gonna tell you go to California. They
have a blockhead moron of a governor who's gonna give
you free healthcare to you die and you get sanctuary,
so he's not gonna let anybody come and arrest you
and deport you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then this blockhead.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is claiming that his deficit is Trump's fault because Trump's
tariffs is gonna cost the state sixteen billion dollars in
tax revenue. Of course he doesn't say which tariffs would
cause that deficit.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Because he made it up, he completely.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But yeah, he actually blames Trump because he's figuring his
progressive supporters going yeah, yeah, it was Trump, Yeah it
was Strung. No, no, this guy is spending twelve and
a half billion dollars on illegal as alien healthcare. Get dummy,
Get this, a third of Californian's forty million residents are
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covered by medical. Wow, that and and that that is
available to you if you make twenty one thousand, six
hundred dollars or less as an individual or forty four
thousand dollars family of four. But then they added the
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illegal aliens a million six and the federal government doesn't
cover that.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So his idea is not to kick.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Anybody off medical, but he's gonna freeze the illegal alien
enrollment program, so no new illegal aliens. And of course
he's gonna do that because Trump already shut the border down,
so there there's very few new people coming to the
state and signing up. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna phreeze
the program and shut it down. Good timing four years
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too late, dope. And he's also going to charge them
one hundred dollars a month in premiums. So the one
hundred dollars, can you imagine getting healthcare for one hundred
dollars a month? What are you doing following the law?
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What are you doing paying taxes? Do you ever depress
people ever feel stupid that they pay for this stuff?
Does it ever occur to you that you are getting
bent over and ripped off for some absolutely insane, nonsensical,
weirdo ideology. A million, six hundred thousand, jaye, Why do
we have a housing shortage? How much land space do
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you think an extra million and a half people take up?
I understand you know what was there housing shortage? I
don't know extra million and a half people who hardly
pay any taxes, and they hardly pay any taxes, which
is why they're on medical So Newsom is just shocking people.
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It's like he's backing off, and he's not backing off
on his plan. Nobody's being kicked off, just no one
new can sign up. But there is nobody new to
sign up because Trump shut the border down.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
All Right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Michael Shellenberger his websites Public dot News.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He's got a.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Piece on why Newsom is the worst governor in America,
and he can support this talk a lot about homelessness
coming up and Newsom's role in exacerbating significantly the homeless
problem here, and I hope he runs for president.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
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'ron every day from one until four o'clock, and then
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Show on demand and you can listen to what you missed.
I want to talk now with Michael Shellenberger. We've had
on the show a number of times. Great writers, actually
my favorite writer on news and politics, especially here in California.
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And he's got a website that you should subscribe to.
It's called Public dot News. A lot of his original
writing and some others as well. And what he spent
some time on this week is, uh, well, we we
had these these two people on the show some weeks back,
he talked about he's talked today about Fool's Gold. It's
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a book by Susan Crabtree and Jed McPhatter, and it
is a whole review of Gavin Newsom's political life. And
I have I've read some of this book and we
had the uh he had Susan on and what what
Michael has done is really honed in on what Newsom
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did to contribute to the massive homelessness that's overtaken much
of California. Let's get Michael Schellenberger on. Welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
John?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
How are you very good? I really, I really do
enjoy your your news letter, your new site.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Thank you so much. I appreciate that quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I highly recommend everybody subscribe to it. So you
focused on in this particular post the other day was
how much Gavin Newsom contributed to dramatically increasing homelessness and
crime here in California. Talk about his policies which created
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or amplified homelessness, just made everything worse over the last
like twenty years he's been in office, going back to
his days as mayor of San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I mean, it's pretty straightforward and I think a lot
of your listeners will understand this, but the policies have
essentially incentivized homelessness, drug addiction, untreated mental illness, which are
at the heart of the problem. Three numbers for you
that really stand out. He has spent at the state
level thirty seven billion dollars of our money to make
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the problem significantly worse, a twenty four percent increase in
homelessness in that period since he took office in twenty nineteen,
and he's increased violent crime to thirty one percent above
the national average. These are just the straight numbers. The
latter number on crime comes from a liberal think tank
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called the Public Policy Institute of California. So this is
an extraordinarily bad record. It's incredible to watch him basically
prepare to run for president when you've just got this
very simple to understand data showing how he made homelessness
and violent crime worse at great costs to the California people.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
What specifically did he do to make almlessness in crime
that much worse? What policies?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You know, It's a few things. It's you know, first,
it's essentially subsidizing housing for addicts and people that are
mentally and not taking their meds without requiring sobriety or
some sort of compliance with medical care. The studies that
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have been done for decades show that that's the opposite
of what addicts need. What really works is to make
housing a reward for ending your hard drug use, for
ending your drug use. It's called contingency management. It's actually
the only form of treatment that's proven to work with uppers.
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There is no sort of medical synthetic alternative like methodon
or suboxone for meth. It really works because it creates
a positive incentive to get better. By giving away housing
to people without any requirements of change of behavior, you
are basically rewarding self destructive behaviors, and then the people
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are dying of fentanyl drug overdose in these little crummy
motels and apartments all those Sometimes the newer ones are
very luxury, but nonetheless you're just abandoning people to these
rooms to overdose and die. That you would also say
these Soros funded efforts to basically allow open air hard
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drug dealing. You have to remember that Gavin Newsom opposed
the legislation that's seventy percent of US voted to pass
last November. That increased the penalties for fensonal drug dealing.
So I don't know how Newsom's going to spin this
to the American people, but it is the worst record
of any California governor in our history. And Gavin Newsom
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is the worst governor in America.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Why the guys a rich kid from the Bay Area.
You have photos on your page of him dressed when
he was twenty four years old, you know, thick, lush hair,
slick suit. He's with his friends, they're opening one of
his plump Jack wine shops. And I'm looking at that photo,
It's like, how did this guy fall in love with
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so many destructive policies that lead to so much death
in the streets. There's something in Congress between looking at
the photo and then reading your description of his policies
below that.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I mean, John, it's such a great question. I'm so
glad you saw what I saw in those photos. So
these are photos of him with the Getties. That's the
Getty Oil fortune, that's his original patrons. They basically so
his father was sort of the main lawyer to the Getty's.
He helped them to get all sorts of tax benefits.
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He actually changed the law in California. So Gavin Newsome
was identified early as essentially someone that would be a
political tool for the Getty family, the Democrat Party, you know,
the left broadly in California. And he was groomed and
I just love those photos because you just see he's
just got these movie star looks. I mean, I think
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the reaction from everybody was and this is somebody that
could memorize. He dyslexia. He was very good at memorizing.
So he's just I mean, it's cliche to say, but
he is genuinely a puppet. He's not a thoughtful person.
He's not a deep thinker, he's not a skeptical person.
So the policies he's implemented are just the policies that
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people at the Soros Foundation and the Hewlett Foundation and
the liberal foundations want and thought would be good. It's
also ironic. The Getty family has had serious problems with addiction,
like many affluent families, and they should know that you
have to intervene their needs. You have to hit bottom,
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you have to raise the bottom, intervene to get people
that are addicts the help they need. The left has done,
you know, then we can talk about why that is.
But they basically did the everything that would make addiction
and mental illness worse. They did it. Gavin Newsom did it,
and he did it because they told him to.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And now that it's clearly a massive failure, they just
keep doing it. That's the part I don't get. I mean,
if they're true believers, they thought they were saving the
world with their good intentions. Well it's a disaster, so
do something else.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Well, you just said it right there. I mean, so
the you know, when you divide the world into victims
and oppressors, as they do, all addicts, all homeless on
the street, all mentally ill people are categorized as victims.
These are first principles for Democrats in California. To victims,
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everything should be given and nothing required. That's the that's fundamental. So,
you know, arresting somebody for breaking the law, arresting a
so called victim for breaking the law is viewed as
an act of oppression. Mandating treatment to somebody who just
keeps overdosing, you know, twelve thirteen times. The attitude is
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that they would rather have them die on the street
of offenstional drug overdose than mandate rehab, which by the way,
is something that humans have done since Odysseus dragged his
men away from the drug addicting lotus flowers in the Odyssey,
we've known that you have to help loved ones in
those places, you have to intervene. They've opposed those things
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out of this very dogmatic ideology. Now there's this other thing, though,
which is that Gavin wants to be president and all
of his political advisors are telling them that this homeless
thing is killing him, it's ruining his chance to be president.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Can on it?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Can you hang on a moment for another segment? Sure,
I want to talk about that when we come back,
because you can't look at anything he does without looking
at through the prism of he's running really an active
presidential campaign. It's clear. Yes, Michael Schellenberger is on. He's
got a great piece. Public dot News is his website.
You should subscribe to it, on how Gavin Newsom has
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created it, created and intensified this this homeless issue in California.
More coming up with Michael Schellenberger.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Next.
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We're on every day from one to four and then
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Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and we
continue with Michael Schellenberger. He's got a several great pieces
out this week. Gavin Newsom is the worst governor in America.
That's the title of one of them at his news site,
Public dot News, which you ought to subscribe to. Well,
we left off, we talked about his Newsom's disastrous policies
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in homelessness, specifically, so Michael, he's obviously running for president,
and he's acting in strange ways, trying to embrace right
wing media figures, trying you know that podcast he's having
changing flip flop flopping his views. He's got a terrible record,
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and it's a visual record. You could see, for example,
all the homelessness. I don't know how he lasts five
minutes in a Democratic primary. What is he trying to do?
What is he going to do here?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I mean, look, Gavin made a mistake. He listened to
the activist left policy people at the Soros Foundation and
those kinds of places, and he disregarded the hard political
advice that he's been getting to deal with this problem
and that's essentially a character problem. He's a very cowardly
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person in many ways. He didn't want to go up
against all these people around him that sold him on
this so called harm reduction approach, which is essentially the
enabling of addiction. And now he wants to run and
you know, he is taking serious steps. He's changed his
position on mass migration, he changed his position on trans
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in sports. He's now calling for a crackdown. Although I
think that's mostly just to be able to blame local
governments when he runs for president so he can escape responsibility.
I mean, that's another characteristic of his reign, is that
he's just obsessed with blaming other people for his own
failures or blaming climate change, blaming other things for it. So,
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you know, I mean, it's interesting to see him. I mean,
I will say that I haven't seen other Democrats be
as strong as he has been in rejecting the really
discredited parts of the Democrats agenda. I think he's a
bit too late on homelessness. I don't think it's going
to work, but it is notable that you know that really,
(30:37):
I mean I always say while I'm you know, cynical
about it, and I don't respect it. It's better when
Gavin is behaving like a politician than a progressive Democrat
in California because you actually start to get the law
and forced more and you move away from the really
extreme parts of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh, he hasn't done much to change power yet. I mean,
he still won't fund Prop thirty six, for example, which is,
you know, desperately needed to truly have an impact on crime.
He voices grave doubts about men and boys playing in
women in girls' sports, but he doesn't reverse the policy
that he signed. So is it just seems to be rhetoric.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I think it's mostly he's
always about doing the minimum in order to appeal to
all sides. I think you're exactly right about that. And
you know, look, I just think the most devastating thing
is the increase of violent One of the most devastating
things after homelessness, is the increase of violent crime by
thirty one percent California that happened on his watch. California's
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violent crime rates were closer to the national average. He
pushed them to be thirty percent higher. I mean, this
is after years of the media gas light in US
and Democrats gas light in US and him him saying
that somehow that we shouldn't believe our eyes and that
really that crime wasn't increasing, when in fact it had
increased quite dramatically and remains extremely high. But no, I
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think you're right. I think that he didn't have the
courage to actually take action at a policy level. He
doesn't want to lose that support from the Soros left.
That's the thing. That's why he opposed the legislation Prop
thirty six, as you mentioned, that's why they're dragging their
feet to get it implemented. So they're trying to have
it both ways. I don't think it'll work. You know,
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it's a terrible record, and I think really he's been defeated,
I think morally, even though he remains in power.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You talk about one of the reasons crime increased is
when he emptied the jails and prisons during COVID. And
I just saw a story in cal Matters the other
day that a third of the people they let out
of prison in one Flourish are back in prison and
thirty of them are accused a murder.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
YEP, that's exactly right. It's an incredible thing, not only
but this new book you had mentioned fools Gold highly recommended.
They discovered they had a whistleblower from the prison system
who said that Gavin Newsome lied when he said that
they needed to let people out of prison for COVID.
He just wanted to get all these people out of
prison in order to win the support of the Soros types. So,
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you know, look, lives have been lost as a result
in you Like you said, thirty lives were lost that
shouldn't have been lost because of his reckless and irresponsible behavior.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You think he goes through with running for president because
he's not going to be treated warmly by Democratic opponents.
One thing I've noticed, you know, following him all these years,
he's never dealt He's never had to operate in a
critical environment between having a one party rule in Sacramento
and an incredibly compliant news media adoring him. I don't
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think he's designed to take a lot of critics when
he gets it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
He doesn't handle himself.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Well, No, I think you're exactly right. I mean, I
think he's definitely running. I mean, that's why he did
the podcast, That's why he's having conservatives on his podcast
with him. That's why he's been carefully and deliberately changing
his position on a number of issues. But I think
you're right. I mean, it is the podcasting era, it's
the social media era that has been disruptive. It allowed
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for the election of Donald Trump and a Republican majority
really only made possible by Elon Musks. Purchase of x
X is not a friendly place for Gavin Newsom anymore.
You know, the media are themselves more skeptical because in
some ways they are now following x which is the
leading media platform. But I think you're exactly right. The
problem for Gavin Newsom and for really all Democrats is
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that they need to appeal to swing voters, and those
swing voters agree much more with the base of the nationalist,
populist Republicans Party than they do with the base of
the Democrat Party. The base of the Democrat Party wants
to transgender children, they want trans and sports, they want
they want to make energy expensive. They want to let
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people out of prison. They want to leave people on
the streets to die. That's what the base of the
Democratic Party wants.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All right, one more question.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Voters want the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right, one more thing before I got to go
eight fifty a gallon for gas. How did if that happens,
How's he going to survive that?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's a great question. I mean, there's a way in
which he's still kind of still you see him pivoting
a little bit, But the real world has moved so far,
so fast in the last year or two, and he's
still sort of stuck in that night that twenty twenty period,
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty period when climate apocalypse was, you know,
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maybe the biggest issue in the world. I don't I
think he's pivoting. I don't think he's pivoting fast enough.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Good talking with you again, Michael, Michael Schellenberger, Public.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Dot News, Shawn, Great to be with you, all right.
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have Michael Sellenberger on, the journalist and author. We've had
him on quite a few times over the years and
he has a great news site, public dot news and
analyzing a lot of California government news and Gavin Newsom,
and he'll be on after one thirty to talk about
Newsom because he he he had a piece this week
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entitled to Gavin Newsom is the worst Governor in America,
zeroing in on the homelessness crisis and Gavin Newsom's role
in spending an enormous amount of money, even more than
I knew and making it a lot worse and uh,
it's he really it's quite an indictment that Schellenberger lays out.
(01:09):
And so we'll get to that coming up after one
thirty now, uh next hour at two o'clock. Two trials
that we're going to cover in detail. One the Menendez brothers,
Michael Monks the resentencing, which I want to talk about
in just a minute. And then Laura Ingle is going
to be on to talk about the Ditty trial because
there's so many disgusting aspects to that. So Menendez and
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the Ditties or the Menendez Is and Diddy coming up,
and I tell you I I'll let Michael go into
the details of what happened yesterday at the hearing, but
the headline is they are gonna they got resentenced. It's
possible they could, they can get paroled and get out soon.
(01:53):
And Michael talked about what went on in the courtroom yesterday.
What I want to talk about. I want to start
out by saying how much I hate the existence of
the Menendez brothers. I just hate that they exist, that
they're alive, that they weren't executed. I hate the story
very much. I hate all the stupid documentaries about them.
(02:17):
I hate the TikTok people that glamorize and worship these
two bastards. These are sick, violent, psychopaths. I hate Mark
Garrigos prancing around acting like he's the savior for justice
because he should know better. I mean, he he's just
always doing theater, pays the bills. But the idea that
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the world's going to be a better place because Lyon
Menendez Lyon and Eric Menendez are going to be walking
free is just such an atrocity. It's not quite as
bad as oj being released because at least these two
a holes spent thirty five years in prison. Do you
know what they're Do you know what their original sentence was?
And in fact, because there has been so much, much
(03:00):
long running debate about them getting out, getting resentenced, getting paroled,
I actually forgot what was the original six.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Wasn't it life without parole?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Correct? Very good, you're off to a hot start today.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes, it was a life sentence without parole for both
of them. So I'm thinking, how sick did this state get?
And it's a voter's fault. It's your fault if you
vote this way. You've repeatedly voted for this progressive legislature,
which I'm not even going to use the term whittled.
(03:41):
They took an axe and they chopped the justice system apart,
and it's laying now in pieces. It's busted. And now
you have two guys who blew their parents' heads off
with shotgun blasts and have been able to manipulate the
system so they could be out free in a matter
(04:03):
of months. I guess it could happened quickly. How do
you go from life without parole? Shouldn't there be? Is
this asking too much that if you're sentenced to life
without parole, that's it? How do you end up with parole?
How do you end up well short of a life sentence?
On top of that, they killed two people, so the
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judge back in the mid nineties sentenced them consecutively to
life without parole.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So it's life without parole.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You die, they dig your body up, and then it's
another life sentence without parole. So don't wonder why I
want the death penalty for people. This is exactly why,
this is why we should execute people, and execute them
in a matter of months, in fact, execute them before
they even appeal, especially the mother, the mother who did
(05:01):
not sexually abuse them. They blew off dad's head, then
they reloaded their rifles and mom is crawling away on
the floor, and then they blow off her head.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And for that you get out of prison in your fifties.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's darned words beyond disgusting, revolting, appalling, hideous, obscene. I'm
out of words. Maybe I should start talking French. There's
no English words left. But who started this? Gascone? Right,
He's the one who filed the original request. This is
Gascone's last gift. He left in the toilet, started the
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process of Menendez gets out and then these horrific laws
that were passed by this insane legislature. And you know what,
other people get let out this way as well. We
just don't know about him because they weren't famous, but
they've been letting other killers out.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now ultimately Newsom as the power here, which does slightly
entertain me.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, you know what I'm thinking, because Newsom seems to
be changing course and wanting to be less progressive.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not going to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
If he says no way, only because he's running for president.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He can block the parole. Yes, and although I think
there's even mechanisms the Menendi will have even beyond that,
but he can block the parole. He can also choose
not to give him clemency because that was another avenue
where he just basically says, all right, you served enough time,
and the governor has those powers. You know, president has
those powers too. And I'm wondering I was thinking the
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same thing you did, because he is. He's running pretty
fast away some of his away from his old disastrous positions,
at least rhetorically. He hasn't changed any policies yet. That's
something I want to talk with Michael Schellenberger about when
he comes on too. You know about Newsomb clearly running
for president and shedding words the rhetoric on some of
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his policies. But he hasn't changed anything because you NewsOne
remember blocked the release of Sir Hans Sir Haan, who
was the killer of Robert F. Kennedy, and Robert F.
Kennedy was Newsome's idol. In fact, I think he still
has a portrait of Kennedy in the hallway leading to
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his office, and I thought, you know what, he's not
gonna He's not going to sign off on parole for
Sir Hans Sir Han. Now, this is the guy murdered
your id all, He's not going to do it. I
mean Kennedy is the reason. You know, the little child
that Gavin Newsom was and it still is in many ways.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He did that photo spread right in Vanity.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Fair recreating uh John and Jackie Kennedy. Yes, with Kimberly
gild Girl Foyle played the.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Role of Jackie Kennedy. He played the role of John Kennedy,
which reminds me I got a turn of commercial. I
just show these photos that Michael Schellenberger dug up to
illustrate his his story on Newsome being the worst governor.
Found photos when Newsom was twenty four years old standing
with two of the young Getty's. You know, the Gettys
(08:17):
bankrolled Newsom both in his fake wine Empire Wine and
Restaurant Empire, but also his political campaigns. And I got
a photo of you of him me, well, you were
in there too.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh well, And you know it's stunning how good looking
he was at the age of twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But he looks like such a rich boy, such a
pretty boy. It's it's it's weird, it's spooky. Actually doesn't
doesn't look human. I mean, his face is so perfectly carved,
his hair is so perfectly quaffed, and I just I
can imagine the kind kind of attitude that he's walked
around with all his life. Now he's dumb as a
(09:00):
board because nobody gets all the gifts, right, A lot
of times good looking people are not are not the
sharpest tool, and many times really smart people are a
bit hideous to look at. You know, he just say,
you know, you know, get everything. But he he was
exceptionally handsome, and he can't let he so he stops
(09:21):
or Hansarhan getting out all this all this stuff that's
going on in California, and he's running for president and
it's so hideous and much of the country is gonna
hate it. Is he gonna let the Menenda's brothers out
new some signs off to release the Menenda's brother He's
going to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Although do people care as much about that as they
do about the gas prices in the homeless situation?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, but but they that's but that's affects us in California, right,
I'm thinking about issues they're going to play out, you know,
in Maine or Nebraska, Nebraska or South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Are people going to care that he let the Menendez
brothers out in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
M it's it's going to resonate because it seems so absurd.
I think most everyone knows the Menendez story and the
idea that those guys are good free. I don't know
if it'll make a difference or not, But what I'm
saying is he's got enough trouble. Is he really going
to add that one? Because that's a headline that's going
to stick for a week.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I say no, I say he's not going to He's
not going to agree to them being rolled or giving
them clemency.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's my I'm just glad.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He's in the box right now because he is going
to be in a box to actually sign off on
this thing. But it's just it's just so overwhelmingly horrible.
There's violent psychopaths. There's no rehabilitation. I hear garag is
doing his clown show act about rehabilitation. He's helped other prisoners.
(10:52):
That is total garbage, absolute nonsense. BS. There's no such thing.
Psychopathic behavior is a permanent affliction. No one has ever recovered.
There's no there's no medication for it. There's no cure psychopaths.
(11:12):
I have no conscience, no remorse, they don't. It didn't
bother them for what they did. Doesn't make a difference
that they killed their parents so brutally, and the idea
that they're victims is absurd. And seeing that pathetic family
talking about not only the Menendez brothers were victims, but
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they the surviving family members are victims. It's like, God,
this horrible infection. It's worse than COVID, this victimhood infection.
Everybody's a victim and they have social status because of it.
They think they're to hire more a plane because they're victims.
We come back before we talk with Michael Sellenberger, newsom's
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latest backtracking today on another May your Signature issue.
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on YouTube and you could see me in color. Michael
Sellenberger coming up after one thirty. He's got a new
column this week on Gavin Newsom being the worst governor
governor in America and he can prove that statement too.
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And Newsome in his eternal quest to reinvent himself as
a plausible presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I sit down. You're not going to believe this.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
He wants to cut healthcare for illegal aliens. Maybe you
don't know this, and maybe I should break it to
you slowly if you don't know this, but we are
spending over twelve billion dollars of your tax money on
illegal alien healthcare. They started this incrementally. They wanted to
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give it to children. Oh, you can't complain about that.
Then they wanted to give it to the elderly. Well,
the elderly need, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It became everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then it became cradle to grave free healthcare coverage. Now
the federal government doesn't pay for that, that's a Medicaid,
So the state government has to pay for the illegal aliens.
That's met a cow do you know how many illegal
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aliens are getting free healthcare right now? You ready for this,
including you soft hearted, soft headed progressive dopes. A million,
six hundred thousand illegal aliens are getting free healthcare and
you're paying for it. And I'm paying for it, and
(14:19):
I don't know about you, but I don't want to
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
A million, six a million, six hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Can you imagine you can't get a pothole fixed, but
they got a million, six hundred thousand for people who
broke the law and came over the border illegally. Newsom
is an idiot, an absolute idiot. And now he's bitching
(14:47):
about his budget being in the red. Well, of course
it's in the red. It's twelve and a half billion dollars.
It's double what he thought it was. This is how
stupid he is. You give out free healthcare, you're gonna
get more illegal aliens coming to California. I mean, all
you gotta do is scroll TikTok. If you're an illegal
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alien and somebody's gonna tell you go to California. They
have a blockhead moron of a governor who's gonna give
you free healthcare to you die and you get sanctuary,
so he's not gonna let anybody come and arrest you
and deport you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then this blockhead.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is claiming that his deficit is Trump's fault because Trump's
tariffs is gonna cost the state sixteen billion dollars in
tax revenue. Of course he doesn't say which tariffs would
cause that deficit.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Because he made it up, he completely.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But yeah, he actually blames Trump because he's figuring his
progressive supporters going yeah, yeah, it was Trump, Yeah it
was Strung. No, no, this guy is spending twelve and
a half billion dollars on illegal as alien healthcare. Get dummy,
Get this, a third of Californian's forty million residents are
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covered by medical. Wow, that and and that that is
available to you if you make twenty one thousand, six
hundred dollars or less as an individual or forty four
thousand dollars family of four. But then they added the
(16:29):
illegal aliens a million six and the federal government doesn't
cover that.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So his idea is not to kick.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Anybody off medical, but he's gonna freeze the illegal alien
enrollment program, so no new illegal aliens. And of course
he's gonna do that because Trump already shut the border down,
so there there's very few new people coming to the
state and signing up. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna phreeze
the program and shut it down. Good timing four years
(17:00):
too late, dope. And he's also going to charge them
one hundred dollars a month in premiums. So the one
hundred dollars, can you imagine getting healthcare for one hundred
dollars a month? What are you doing following the law?
(17:21):
What are you doing paying taxes? Do you ever depress
people ever feel stupid that they pay for this stuff?
Does it ever occur to you that you are getting
bent over and ripped off for some absolutely insane, nonsensical,
weirdo ideology. A million, six hundred thousand, jaye, Why do
we have a housing shortage? How much land space do
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you think an extra million and a half people take up?
I understand you know what was there housing shortage? I
don't know extra million and a half people who hardly
pay any taxes, and they hardly pay any taxes, which
is why they're on medical So Newsom is just shocking people.
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It's like he's backing off, and he's not backing off
on his plan. Nobody's being kicked off, just no one
new can sign up. But there is nobody new to
sign up because Trump shut the border down.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
All Right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Michael Shellenberger his websites Public dot News.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He's got a.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Piece on why Newsom is the worst governor in America,
and he can support this talk a lot about homelessness
coming up and Newsom's role in exacerbating significantly the homeless
problem here, and I hope he runs for president.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
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I want to talk now with Michael Shellenberger. We've had
on the show a number of times. Great writers, actually
my favorite writer on news and politics, especially here in California.
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And he's got a website that you should subscribe to.
It's called Public dot News. A lot of his original
writing and some others as well. And what he spent
some time on this week is, uh, well, we we
had these these two people on the show some weeks back,
he talked about he's talked today about Fool's Gold. It's
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a book by Susan Crabtree and Jed McPhatter, and it
is a whole review of Gavin Newsom's political life. And
I have I've read some of this book and we
had the uh he had Susan on and what what
Michael has done is really honed in on what Newsom
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did to contribute to the massive homelessness that's overtaken much
of California. Let's get Michael Schellenberger on. Welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
John?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
How are you very good? I really, I really do
enjoy your your news letter, your new site.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Thank you so much. I appreciate that quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I highly recommend everybody subscribe to it. So you
focused on in this particular post the other day was
how much Gavin Newsom contributed to dramatically increasing homelessness and
crime here in California. Talk about his policies which created
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or amplified homelessness, just made everything worse over the last
like twenty years he's been in office, going back to
his days as mayor of San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I mean, it's pretty straightforward and I think a lot
of your listeners will understand this, but the policies have
essentially incentivized homelessness, drug addiction, untreated mental illness, which are
at the heart of the problem. Three numbers for you
that really stand out. He has spent at the state
level thirty seven billion dollars of our money to make
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the problem significantly worse, a twenty four percent increase in
homelessness in that period since he took office in twenty nineteen,
and he's increased violent crime to thirty one percent above
the national average. These are just the straight numbers. The
latter number on crime comes from a liberal think tank
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called the Public Policy Institute of California. So this is
an extraordinarily bad record. It's incredible to watch him basically
prepare to run for president when you've just got this
very simple to understand data showing how he made homelessness
and violent crime worse at great costs to the California people.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
What specifically did he do to make almlessness in crime
that much worse? What policies?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You know, It's a few things. It's you know, first,
it's essentially subsidizing housing for addicts and people that are
mentally and not taking their meds without requiring sobriety or
some sort of compliance with medical care. The studies that
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have been done for decades show that that's the opposite
of what addicts need. What really works is to make
housing a reward for ending your hard drug use, for
ending your drug use. It's called contingency management. It's actually
the only form of treatment that's proven to work with uppers.
(22:33):
There is no sort of medical synthetic alternative like methodon
or suboxone for meth. It really works because it creates
a positive incentive to get better. By giving away housing
to people without any requirements of change of behavior, you
are basically rewarding self destructive behaviors, and then the people
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are dying of fentanyl drug overdose in these little crummy
motels and apartments all those Sometimes the newer ones are
very luxury, but nonetheless you're just abandoning people to these
rooms to overdose and die. That you would also say
these Soros funded efforts to basically allow open air hard
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drug dealing. You have to remember that Gavin Newsom opposed
the legislation that's seventy percent of US voted to pass
last November. That increased the penalties for fensonal drug dealing.
So I don't know how Newsom's going to spin this
to the American people, but it is the worst record
of any California governor in our history. And Gavin Newsom
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is the worst governor in America.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Why the guys a rich kid from the Bay Area.
You have photos on your page of him dressed when
he was twenty four years old, you know, thick, lush hair,
slick suit. He's with his friends, they're opening one of
his plump Jack wine shops. And I'm looking at that photo,
It's like, how did this guy fall in love with
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so many destructive policies that lead to so much death
in the streets. There's something in Congress between looking at
the photo and then reading your description of his policies
below that.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I mean, John, it's such a great question. I'm so
glad you saw what I saw in those photos. So
these are photos of him with the Getties. That's the
Getty Oil fortune, that's his original patrons. They basically so
his father was sort of the main lawyer to the Getty's.
He helped them to get all sorts of tax benefits.
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He actually changed the law in California. So Gavin Newsome
was identified early as essentially someone that would be a
political tool for the Getty family, the Democrat Party, you know,
the left broadly in California. And he was groomed and
I just love those photos because you just see he's
just got these movie star looks. I mean, I think
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the reaction from everybody was and this is somebody that
could memorize. He dyslexia. He was very good at memorizing.
So he's just I mean, it's cliche to say, but
he is genuinely a puppet. He's not a thoughtful person.
He's not a deep thinker, he's not a skeptical person.
So the policies he's implemented are just the policies that
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people at the Soros Foundation and the Hewlett Foundation and
the liberal foundations want and thought would be good. It's
also ironic. The Getty family has had serious problems with addiction,
like many affluent families, and they should know that you
have to intervene their needs. You have to hit bottom,
(25:38):
you have to raise the bottom, intervene to get people
that are addicts the help they need. The left has done,
you know, then we can talk about why that is.
But they basically did the everything that would make addiction
and mental illness worse. They did it. Gavin Newsom did it,
and he did it because they told him to.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And now that it's clearly a massive failure, they just
keep doing it. That's the part I don't get. I mean,
if they're true believers, they thought they were saving the
world with their good intentions. Well it's a disaster, so
do something else.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Well, you just said it right there. I mean, so
the you know, when you divide the world into victims
and oppressors, as they do, all addicts, all homeless on
the street, all mentally ill people are categorized as victims.
These are first principles for Democrats in California. To victims,
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everything should be given and nothing required. That's the that's fundamental. So,
you know, arresting somebody for breaking the law, arresting a
so called victim for breaking the law is viewed as
an act of oppression. Mandating treatment to somebody who just
keeps overdosing, you know, twelve thirteen times. The attitude is
(26:55):
that they would rather have them die on the street
of offenstional drug overdose than mandate rehab, which by the way,
is something that humans have done since Odysseus dragged his
men away from the drug addicting lotus flowers in the Odyssey,
we've known that you have to help loved ones in
those places, you have to intervene. They've opposed those things
(27:16):
out of this very dogmatic ideology. Now there's this other thing, though,
which is that Gavin wants to be president and all
of his political advisors are telling them that this homeless
thing is killing him, it's ruining his chance to be president.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Can on it?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Can you hang on a moment for another segment? Sure,
I want to talk about that when we come back,
because you can't look at anything he does without looking
at through the prism of he's running really an active
presidential campaign. It's clear. Yes, Michael Schellenberger is on. He's
got a great piece. Public dot News is his website.
You should subscribe to it, on how Gavin Newsom has
(27:53):
created it, created and intensified this this homeless issue in California.
More coming up with Michael Schellenberger.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Next.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
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Speaker 2 (28:08):
We're on every day from one to four and then
after four o'clock you listen to the podcast at John
Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and we
continue with Michael Schellenberger. He's got a several great pieces
out this week. Gavin Newsom is the worst governor in America.
That's the title of one of them at his news site,
Public dot News, which you ought to subscribe to. Well,
we left off, we talked about his Newsom's disastrous policies
(28:33):
in homelessness, specifically, so Michael, he's obviously running for president,
and he's acting in strange ways, trying to embrace right
wing media figures, trying you know that podcast he's having
changing flip flop flopping his views. He's got a terrible record,
(28:56):
and it's a visual record. You could see, for example,
all the homelessness. I don't know how he lasts five
minutes in a Democratic primary. What is he trying to do?
What is he going to do here?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I mean, look, Gavin made a mistake. He listened to
the activist left policy people at the Soros Foundation and
those kinds of places, and he disregarded the hard political
advice that he's been getting to deal with this problem
and that's essentially a character problem. He's a very cowardly
(29:31):
person in many ways. He didn't want to go up
against all these people around him that sold him on
this so called harm reduction approach, which is essentially the
enabling of addiction. And now he wants to run and
you know, he is taking serious steps. He's changed his
position on mass migration, he changed his position on trans
(29:51):
in sports. He's now calling for a crackdown. Although I
think that's mostly just to be able to blame local
governments when he runs for president so he can escape responsibility.
I mean, that's another characteristic of his reign, is that
he's just obsessed with blaming other people for his own
failures or blaming climate change, blaming other things for it. So,
(30:15):
you know, I mean, it's interesting to see him. I mean,
I will say that I haven't seen other Democrats be
as strong as he has been in rejecting the really
discredited parts of the Democrats agenda. I think he's a
bit too late on homelessness. I don't think it's going
to work, but it is notable that you know that really,
(30:37):
I mean I always say while I'm you know, cynical
about it, and I don't respect it. It's better when
Gavin is behaving like a politician than a progressive Democrat
in California because you actually start to get the law
and forced more and you move away from the really
extreme parts of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh, he hasn't done much to change power yet. I mean,
he still won't fund Prop thirty six, for example, which is,
you know, desperately needed to truly have an impact on crime.
He voices grave doubts about men and boys playing in
women in girls' sports, but he doesn't reverse the policy
that he signed. So is it just seems to be rhetoric.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I think it's mostly he's
always about doing the minimum in order to appeal to
all sides. I think you're exactly right about that. And
you know, look, I just think the most devastating thing
is the increase of violent One of the most devastating
things after homelessness, is the increase of violent crime by
thirty one percent California that happened on his watch. California's
(31:45):
violent crime rates were closer to the national average. He
pushed them to be thirty percent higher. I mean, this
is after years of the media gas light in US
and Democrats gas light in US and him him saying
that somehow that we shouldn't believe our eyes and that
really that crime wasn't increasing, when in fact it had
increased quite dramatically and remains extremely high. But no, I
(32:07):
think you're right. I think that he didn't have the
courage to actually take action at a policy level. He
doesn't want to lose that support from the Soros left.
That's the thing. That's why he opposed the legislation Prop
thirty six, as you mentioned, that's why they're dragging their
feet to get it implemented. So they're trying to have
it both ways. I don't think it'll work. You know,
(32:30):
it's a terrible record, and I think really he's been defeated,
I think morally, even though he remains in power.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You talk about one of the reasons crime increased is
when he emptied the jails and prisons during COVID. And
I just saw a story in cal Matters the other
day that a third of the people they let out
of prison in one Flourish are back in prison and
thirty of them are accused a murder.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
YEP, that's exactly right. It's an incredible thing, not only
but this new book you had mentioned fools Gold highly recommended.
They discovered they had a whistleblower from the prison system
who said that Gavin Newsome lied when he said that
they needed to let people out of prison for COVID.
He just wanted to get all these people out of
prison in order to win the support of the Soros types. So,
(33:25):
you know, look, lives have been lost as a result
in you Like you said, thirty lives were lost that
shouldn't have been lost because of his reckless and irresponsible behavior.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You think he goes through with running for president because
he's not going to be treated warmly by Democratic opponents.
One thing I've noticed, you know, following him all these years,
he's never dealt He's never had to operate in a
critical environment between having a one party rule in Sacramento
and an incredibly compliant news media adoring him. I don't
(33:57):
think he's designed to take a lot of critics when
he gets it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
He doesn't handle himself.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Well, No, I think you're exactly right. I mean, I
think he's definitely running. I mean, that's why he did
the podcast, That's why he's having conservatives on his podcast
with him. That's why he's been carefully and deliberately changing
his position on a number of issues. But I think
you're right. I mean, it is the podcasting era, it's
the social media era that has been disruptive. It allowed
(34:26):
for the election of Donald Trump and a Republican majority
really only made possible by Elon Musks. Purchase of x
X is not a friendly place for Gavin Newsom anymore.
You know, the media are themselves more skeptical because in
some ways they are now following x which is the
leading media platform. But I think you're exactly right. The
problem for Gavin Newsom and for really all Democrats is
(34:50):
that they need to appeal to swing voters, and those
swing voters agree much more with the base of the nationalist,
populist Republicans Party than they do with the base of
the Democrat Party. The base of the Democrat Party wants
to transgender children, they want trans and sports, they want
they want to make energy expensive. They want to let
(35:12):
people out of prison. They want to leave people on
the streets to die. That's what the base of the
Democratic Party wants.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All right, one more question.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Voters want the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right, one more thing before I got to go
eight fifty a gallon for gas. How did if that happens,
How's he going to survive that?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's a great question. I mean, there's a way in
which he's still kind of still you see him pivoting
a little bit, But the real world has moved so far,
so fast in the last year or two, and he's
still sort of stuck in that night that twenty twenty period,
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty period when climate apocalypse was, you know,
(35:54):
maybe the biggest issue in the world. I don't I
think he's pivoting. I don't think he's pivoting fast enough.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Good talking with you again, Michael, Michael Schellenberger, Public.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Dot News, Shawn, Great to be with you, all right.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
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