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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on every day from one until four after four o'clock.
John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app. Tomorrow,
the Supreme Court is going to hear arguments on whether
all these tariffs that Trump levied on the world are legal.
He used a law from nineteen seventy seven called the
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International Emergency Economic Powers Act to levy the tariffs. They've
collected hundreds of billions of dollars. And if the Justice
has decided all these tariffs are illegal, would the US
have to pay back the money? That could get really
complicated because the government's probably spent all that money. Let's
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get to Royal Oaks. Now, ABC News Legal analyst Royal
How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm doing great, John, Yeah, I don't think we're going
to have to pay any money back. But it could
be a big defeat for Trump and he's already twice
he lost in the Trout Court and the Appeals Court
and they said, oh, you can't do that out of
the Act. But the Fiel's Court did say, you know,
spring courss the boss. So we're going to wait to
see what the High Court says about it. And as
you say, it's going to be dramtic tomorrow morning. Is
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zero argument. You know, Trump's got an argument because traditionally
this economic emergency law has been used for things like
freezing assets or the bad guys, you know, they make
war or take our hostages economic sanctions, and the statue
doesn't have the word tariff. But Trump's attitude is, look,
this was a crisis. I really think it was an emergency,
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and so it's justified. And it wouldn't be a shock
if the court, you know, was six out of nine
that Republican appointees agree with Donald Trump. But you know,
real interesting to watch, you know, the tea leaves. Listen
to their questions in the morning, see if they indicate
which way they're leaning.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
What is Trump's version of an emergency here? Why did he.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Call it that?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
His attitude is that the other countries imposed tariffs on us,
and we are just getting screwed. We're losing money left
and right, and I have to fight back. And you remember,
for months everybody was totally freaked out and was just
going to do the stock market in the world economy
as it turns out, you know, it was kind of
a nothing burger in a way, in the sense that
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Trump would just make it deals. Just the other day,
you know, he's over there in China with she and he's, Okay,
I'm going to cut your tariffs. It feel be nice
to me about this and that and the other. So
I don't think the Supreme Court feels like this is
some sort of existential threat.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But it is.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Interesting because you know, the whole year, people had been
fussing on both sides about, you know, what's the extent
of the president's power. Can he you know, fire agency heads.
Can he just say this is birthright citizenship or it's illegal.
So extent of executive power is a big deal, and
this tariff thing is symbolic of it. You know, I
think we really got to watch Tomorrow Morning, John to
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people Chief Justice Roberts and Emmy Cony Barrett because recently
they had been working, they had been voting with the
liberals in a fair number of cases, and they joined
the three liberals. Its lights out for Trump's side, because
it doesn't matter what Alito and Thomas and Kavanaugh and
Gorset stay, They're going to lose five to four.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Does it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Is it going to matter that? It seems like for now,
the way I'd been looking at this, the tariffs have
worked out. It's brought in hundreds of billions of dollars
to the Treasury. It's given Trump leverage to negotiate much
better deals than we had with these countries. And he's
gotten dozens of companies to move their manufacturing to the
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United States because it's cheaper now than paying the tariff
if they were making the stuff overseas. The fact that
it didn't cause a collapse and they actually benefit the
US in the long run, would that have any effect
on the judges' attitudes.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, That's a great point, because you know, we think
of the judiciary, the justices in the black worlds, they
are above politics. They're not above politics, it's the human being.
And they felt that the economy is coming crashing down
around our ears, then they'd rule one way. But if
it looks like it's okay, I mean often they follow
public opinion. I mean, you're back in the day, you know,
we had it was illegal to have interracial marriage, and
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then when the public opinion polls made it pretty clear
that everybody thought that was a crock it should be
legal suddenly, the US Supreme Court after two hundred years ago.
Oh yeah, that's legal. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised
if politics enterors into their decision.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Upon further review reading the Constitution. That always amused me,
because you know, we're taught a lot of propaganda in
school about how they go by the letter of the law.
You know, this is what they teach in school, you know,
in your seventh grade, and then you got in the
real world and it seems like they're politicians like everyone else,
and that you know, it depends what we've talked about
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this many times.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It depends what judge you get as to what the
decision is going to.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Be exactly right. It's such a crock because if you
look to the president who appointed a justice, you can
almost always predict how that person is going to vote
on a high profile, you know, sexy political case. Is
that right? I mean, they're supposed to be totally independent.
It's a freaking lifetime appointment. But yeah, it's very disappointing
you kind of know in advance how they're going to vote.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I guess he could run all this through Congress and
that would make it legal. But there's many different viewpoints
in Congress, and he probably wouldn't get this kind of
power or the approval of this kind of power on
his own. There were plenty of Republicans against tariffs, and
funny Democrats as well.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Actually, since the leads in the Senate House are so
small that you get a few Republicans where liberals they
joined the Democrats and then it's like, no, the GOP
doesn't have the majority after all. So yeah, I don't
think he could go.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Because there's some Republicans who believe in absolute free markets.
You're not supposed to have any taxation to impede in
international commerce.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, ran Paul Libertarian. He can't count on everybody's votes,
so on the GP side at all.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
All right, you got a hunch on which way this
is going to go or is it really a wild card?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think that Trump's going to win because you know,
they've been very deferential, like that immigration thing. The Supreme
Court has said, you know, the princedent gets to decide
if there's a national emergency where you use military and
the troops. They don't like the second guessing. So yeah,
if I had to go to Vegas and bet I'd
say trumble win.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
All right, we'll see what happens. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Royal Oaks, ABC News legal analysts on the Supreme Court
hearing tomorrow on Trump's tariffs. He used emergency powers to
bypass Congress, and the debate is going to be whether
it was a real emergency. He says it was a
real economic emergency because we've gotten screwed for you know,
trillions of dollars over the years by other countries. So
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we'll we'll you know, that hearing will be tomorrow when
we come back. Ah, there's one less possible goobernatorial candidate,
A big name dropped out today before he was even
in and you'll know him by one thing, by one sound,
and we'll play it for you when we come back.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, it was pretty sad news today. I was, it's
kind of devastated by this. But the senator that nobody
ever heard of until very recently, Senator Alex Padia from California. Yeah,
it's California Senator. It's not just that stupid crook Adam
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what's his name? Padilla was rumored he was thinking about
running for governor, and story was like leaked, and you
never know if that's a real story. If somebody was
just trying trying to do a test balloon, you know,
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trying to see what the response would be, and then
they were going to convince the diator ron As all
kinds of stuff like that. But today he decided to
announce he's not running, which I sound funny because it's like, well,
who asked you? Like you're saying, I don't know who
Alex Padilla is. Well, remember you weren't the only one.
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Because during the immigration raids in la back in June,
when Christy nom the Homeland Security Secretary, was holding a
mini press briefing in one of the offices, Padilla stormed
in dressed in ordinary street clothes and no identification on
him that he was a senator, and nobody recognized him.
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So security went to work. And here's what it sounded like, hands.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Up, hands up, I'm Senator Dwich.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Could I have questions for the secretary because the fact
of the matter is.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
A dozen violent criminals that you're on your.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
He's tackled faced down on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I have a question. My hand's going right behind my
back all right cool one hand handcuff other hand other man.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I could listen to that all day, the big wind bag.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Nobody knew who he was. No man had any idea
who this guy is.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Just I mean, because you don't know, right, I mean,
there's been so many assassination attempts and threats and actual assassinations.
You know, he goes charging in there without I d
but Tommy identifies himself.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He was already being haulted.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Uh so today announced he's not You know, you played
the clip of him announcing he's not running.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
You want to hear it?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Ye, yeah, play it again.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He has a he's a particularly weak voice, like he
does not inspire strength and leadership.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Okay, I found it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Just hit play.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Okay, Well I had to.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Get it up on my screen first, and then I
know how to hit play.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I know how to trigger you.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
And so it is with a full heart and even
more commitment than ever, that I am choosing to not
run for a governor of California next year.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't hear any moans or groans or people yelling
no no, say it isn't so tell me you're running.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
I have another.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is anybody in the streets.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I have another one. You want to hear that, all right,
let's hear this one.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
I choose not just to stay in the Senate. I
choose to stay in this fight because the Constitution is
worth fighting for. Our fundamental rights are worth fighting for.
Everybody's fighting. Everybody's fighting. Everyone's fighting for the Constitution, fighting
for rights. He's uh, he's he's got to stay and
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fight Trump. Everybody's fighting Trump.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Trump is steamrolling everybody. But they're all fighting, right, They're
all under the steamroller. They're all flat out on the ground.
Play again, play padilla, getting the tossed again. I want
this on a loop.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Sir, hands up, I'm senator said, I have questions for
Secretary because.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The fact of the matter is it's half a.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Dozen fighting criminals that you're rotting on your there's your question, off.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Ask your question from down there. Ask it while you're
on your stomach.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Your backs going back right, cool one hand la la
Platt lake clat other answer.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
The great leaders, you know, like he doesn't know he's
a clown. He doesn't know he's a buffoon. That's what
That's what I love about these guys. They like Newsom
doesn't know. He's obviously a pathical, pathological war he doesn't know.
He's just a bumbling clown. It's it's just so funny,
all right, when we come back. How many Californians do
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you think are on food stamps? This number is worse
than I thought it was. Why don't people go and
get work anymore? I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
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Six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, here's a breaking news. Mayor Karen Bass lifted her
declaration of emergency on homelessness, but.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Says the crisis persists.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't understand this, and then she said, you know
she would not hesitate to read stated. Let me be clear,
the crisis remains, so does our urgency. But she's lifting
the state of emergency. It's tough when you have an
insane person running things. She doesn't care people dining in
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the street every day. I think five die every day
in the street. You have to force them into mandatory
alcohol and drug treatment programs, or you have to force
them into a mental institution. Anything else is just theft.
That's what's going on. Massive theft. And she's sitting at
the top of the theft pyramid there, all right, how
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many people do you think on food stamps in California?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Forty million people.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Five and a half million, five and a half million
are on the staff program food Stamps. California gets a
billion dollars from the federal government every month. For this,
We're spending twelve billion dollars in tax money on people
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who claim they don't have enough food to eat. Katie
Grimes actually has a hysterical piece in californiaglobe dot com
and I totally agree with her on this. How many
Californians are really hungry, really hungry. Everywhere I go, everywhere,
everywhere I look, Walmart, Targets, Starbucks, CBS, Trader Joe's college campus,
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launching dining out, high end shopping mall. Californians are clearly wealth, chunky, hefty,
and far too many are fat, seriously and dangerously fat.
In fact, I read today that the obesity rate in
this country is at forty percent.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
With Wgov and Wallows.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That was zempic, that was the story. This year.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
For the first time in history, the obesity rate has
dropped down all the way to thirty seven percent.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Last year it was forty.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Oh you can tell, you can tell that it's three
percent less bad out there.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
I can't tell you how many people I know that
are on those drugs.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh, it's a trendy thing in your neighborhood.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
I'm not saying they're my friends. I'm not even saying
they're in my neighborhood. I just people are on these
drugs big time.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, I know. I know a lot of people on them,
and they work as.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Far as I can tell your neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Ohh yeah, because it's very a body. Body beauty is
very competitive.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
My side of town.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, I just naturally am able to compete and I
don't have to resort.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know, Well, whatever.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Sound you made there, that snor it was really uncalled
for that, Yes you did. That was not a lady
like sound. I'm lady apparently not. I But here's what
she says. So they, she says, many of these folks
are well groomed, manicured nails and toes, gorgeously professionally colored
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and styled hair, donned in expensive athleisure wear. They wear
Apple watches, carry fourteen hundred dollars phones, driving late model cars.
In other words, there look like ordinary upper middle class
to wealthy people, okay, and they got food stamps because
it's just fraud. Everybody figured out how to defraud the government,
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especially here in California. So everybody's happy to spend the
money that they're making on the stuff they like.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And in addition, they get a little kickback from.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The government every month that they could cash it at
the grocery store. Many are using the EBT cards for
their grocery purchases. They think it's free money they're entitled to, so,
Katie Grime says, at the grocery stores, I frequent women
drive up in expensive cars carrying Louis Vuitton bags using
California EBT VISA cards to purchase their groceries.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You don't do this to you.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
No, I do not do that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And they treat it as if it's a secret society,
laughing as they screw the state government and their neighbors.
Several friends in the grocery business alerted to this to
me years ago, well off people using the food stamp
scam in her neighborhood where many homes sell for more
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than a million dollars two million plus Teslas Mercedes BMW's
range drovers, Maseratis, ferraris everything else. They're using foodstafms. She
sees women rolling into parking spots at Von's Raleigh Supermarket
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driving a Tesla, a Suburban, a Cadillac, Porsches.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Louis Vutan or Blenciaga bags.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Good, very good. No, I do not have one.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You don't have one. I don't, And you don't use
the food stamps.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I do not, do you.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I actually tried to apply for food stamps once in
my early twenties. I was making one sixty a week
in radio. I was making too much money. It's really
supposed to be for poor people.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But another girl I knew at the station. We both
went to the food stamp office. We both got rejected.
Hair nails, skin lashes, quaft shaped, peeled and injected. They
have the latest iPhone and they shop for food and
pay with an EBT card. So I guess this is
all the rage.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And the rich circle.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I have never heard this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You haven't run into this.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Honestly, I haven't seen this either. But I'm going to
go looking now.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Yeah I am too, But are you going to say,
excuse me, how much is your purse. How much did
you pay for those shoes?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, you you got to school me and what these
look like so I can identify the persons in the shoes.
Everything looks the same to me.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
And that is maddening if that is truly happening five.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And a half billion people.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That say, by the way, even among the poor people,
most of them are fat. I mean really, there's a
well they are. It's I got statistical proof here. We've
bumped down to thirty seven percent, and the wealthy people
are taking the ozempic and then we go VI because
the poor people can't can't afford that those things are expensive.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yes they are, and no I don't take it, but
I know they're very expensive.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, You.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Don't take it. You don't have these bags, you don't
buy foods, you don't do any show.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I have to do my investigating. I don't know why
I thought of you.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
I don't know why either, But I'm insulting. You say
I insult you, You insult me.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But I got it.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
We have such a dysfunctional relationship.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
On election Day, Uh, Trump put out something on social
media saying that California's elections are entirely rigged, and everybody
in the media says, well, but you have no evidence,
and he says, well, yeah, there's they send mail in
ballots to everybody in California right there, and there's ballot harvesting.
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So if you're sending everybody, uh, a ballot in the
mail and they they they can do ballot harvesting and
they don't have to show voter ID. Gee, I'm sure
there's no fraud. You just heard that there's there's probably
hundreds of thousands of people defrauding of the state on
food stamps. There's wealthy people, probably progressive, wealthy Democrats, running
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around wearing nice clothes, driving cars, knights phones, and they
pay their grocery bills at Trader Joe's or Vond's with
EBT cards because they're defrauding the food stamp. They're defrauding
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the state government and federal government because they supply the money.
So of course there's probably a lot of voter ID
fraud going on. There's a lot of people showing up,
tell me illegal aliens or aren't voting. Come on, that
was the whole reason they're here. Huntington Beach is a
charter city, and they say, as a charter city they
can set their own rules to some extent, and they
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had their own voter ID law you have to show
ID or you don't get to vote. And their law
was Measure A and was backed up by a California
District court. Well now went to the California Appeals Court
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and the appeals Court said, no, you have no right
to demand voter ID in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Rob Bonta was doing a victory dance over this.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
This is what they fight for, the fight to have
an election where no one has to show an ID.
And then everybody beats on Trump when he says the
system's corrupt. Of course it's corrupt. You wanna take a
big step towards proving it's not that you can only
do that with voter ID like many many states have. Instead, Bonta,
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who's always auditioning to be Newsom's mini me, said no
matter where threats to voting rights come from, whether Washington,
DC or within California, we will continue holding the line.
And you know, part of the fight is whether they
have the rights as a charter city to have their
own voting rules. But Carl Demio as a proposal to
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put on the ballot a referendum to require voter ID.
In fact, Carl's going to be on tomorrow because we're
going to talk about you know, Prop fifty, which is
expected to pass today, and he was about the only
Republican official who fought against it. It's fascinating how a
Republican party, both in the state and nationally, spent almost
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no time and no energy on fighting Prop fifty, even
though it's their party that's losing about five seats in
the end from this.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You know, if they don't want to fight for you anymore,
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They just.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Rolled over and gave up on this one. All right,
we'll see you tomorrow. We've got Conway with the new
with his show coming up in minutes. Michael Krazer is
the news live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
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