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December 5, 2025 34 mins

Laura Ingle, Mandani says NYC won't have anymore encampment cleanups
NYC voters begin to realize Mamdani's plans are crazy
LAT does story on Chatsworth school kissing club school lawsuit
excerpt of Palisades Documentary by Rob Montz

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app and we're now going to talk to Laura Ingle
from Newstation, the Cable TV news channel. She's in New
York City, Zorn. Mom Donnie, the incoming mayor, announced today
that he is no longer going to be sweeping away

(00:24):
all the homeless encampments that litter the city. Eric Adams,
the mayor, up until I guess this month, he had
cleared out eighteen thousand encampments over the last three and
a half years. And Mom Donnie wants that stopped. Let's
go to lawyer. Why is this? What is he doing?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
John?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, this is a big political back and forth tug
of war over this issue that has of course hung
over New York City for so long.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
And when we talk about the numbers and we talk.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
About the planning, that's where people are really digging into
the data right now because the city has spent over
six million dollars of trying to clear out these encampments.
But the other side of the coin, even though all
that effort is being made to clean up the encampments,
to get the tenth packed up and get people moving
on to shelters shows that I think it was like

(01:20):
four thousand people, let's say, were removed from their homeless encampments,
but then only one hundred and fourteen were placed in
shelters and nobody had permanent, long term solutions for these people.
So the city is spending a lot of money to
sweep everything up, but yet there's no connection to homeless
shelters that the homeless can actually benefit from. So what

(01:42):
Mandani is suggesting that he's not going to he is
not going to continue to sweeps, and of course Eric
Adams has said who's still the mayor, saying well, we're
going to keep going until basically the last second as
much as we can, because it's it is hard for
the people of New York to navigate through tents. I
was actually at Luigi Mangioni yesterday at the court hearing

(02:03):
Downtown Criminal Court, and to my surprise, there were.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
A big row of tents just across the street.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
From the criminal Courthouse, which I hadn't seen in quite
some time.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
So we are people are moving.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
In, people are already claiming space.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Word is out.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You know, the rent is high, so there's a lot
of people that are looking to see what that solution
could be. But you know, it's kind of you know,
just like we had it in LA when I was
reporting there at KFI.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I mean, we were down.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
In Santa Monica doing the same in downtown LA, doing
very similar stories of you know, how do you fix
this problem? If money isn't the solution, if the best
laid and best meant plans aren't working, then what but
but just not sweeping them up? Many people here, many
voters have said they would like to see more of
a plan than that. And I'm sure what we'll hear

(02:57):
from him once once he gets into office sun in January.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, where do they think all these people who got
swept up? Went like there was eighteen thousand encampments and
you're telling me there was only one hundred and fourteen
placed in these shelters. Well, what happened to the eighteen thousand?
They go to New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well in New York City's big, right, So they get
on the subways and they move from place to place,
and a lot of people, you know, of course, they're
citing quality of life issues and this is not the
right thing to do, and it's all about the money.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Too about you know how much money is being spent.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because they're it involves offices, it involves law enforcement and
community leaders, homeless advocates that are all trying to come
up with some type of a solution. But the fact
that Mandani is saying that he's not just flat out
they're not going to do any sweeps.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
I mean, I think some.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
People the reaction has been, could you do some sweeps?
Could you maybe do more calculated sweeps of these encampments,
because you know, just like in La, I mean they
are they can be very big in places well, whether
you're talking about an overpass, whether you're talking about an
area where there's the vents from the subway system where
a lot of homeless will gather for the heat and

(04:11):
it is cold here right now. I mean we're in
the twenties right now.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Don't people die in the streets?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, yes they do. And there's a code for that.
So if you see somebody that looks like they are
not doing well, you can call the city and it's
called like code blue. You can call the city and say,
I see somebody that needs to get into a shelter
right away. And in theory, somebody is supposed to come
and find that person at the location that's been called

(04:38):
in and get them to a shelter. But the problem
is is that they don't. A lot of homeless don't
stay where they've been placed.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
They don't like it there.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
They'd rather be out on the streets. So it's like
this merry go round, round and round of no solution.
But Mundani is saying that he's not going to sweep
him up.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Now, we just need to know where they're going to go.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So there's no there's no plan announced.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yet not as of Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean he had a press conference yesterday and it
was an off topic question. That's how this whole thing
made a headline. He was doing a news conference for
something else.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
All right, Well, I think, as you know, we have
a lot of we got thousands, all most people living
in the street.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
This is not a complicated thing.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Either they're indoors or they're outdoors, and if they're outdoors
in fifteen degree weather, then they're going to freeze to death.
It's kind of a bizarre thing to announce that you're
because I thought in New York City they had a
wall like everybody was entitled to some shelter at least
a bed. Oh we lost her, all right, got to
disconnect there, all right. Well, anyways, that was good talking

(05:41):
with Laura Ingele from Newstation, which is the cable of
the TV channel. It's a good, good channel, good news
operation they have there. And about Zorn Mom Donnie stopping
homeless encampment sweeps. This is unbelievable, how stubborn they are
to embrace this. And instead of there being fewer politicians

(06:03):
in office that have this agenda, like here in LA
and now New York, there's more of them. People actually
vote for politicians who want more homeless encampments, and then
the people complain about all the homeless encampments.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm baffled.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
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angel On from News Nation. But Zorn Mamdani, it's not
going to be mayor. I don't think for a month.

(07:10):
And he's already announced he's going to get well, he's
going to stop clearing homeless encampments.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Is that great news?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
People don't understand what these Democratic Socialists of America are
really about. They hear the word Democrat and they get confused,
which is the point of that party's name. They're not Democrats,
they are socialists. But it's even worse than that. They're
destructive anarchists. And he says they're not going to clear

(07:42):
out the encampments now, as Laura said, these people were
cleared out and nobody knows where most of them went.
Eighteen thousand encampments were cleared, and those people went wandering
off to who knows where. But that's eighteen thousand encampments
that are not in the streets, or maybe they're tearing
down the same encampments over and over again.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
We lived most of our lives like here, in La
without this being a thing except on skid Row and
most cities obviously ninety nine percent of cities don't have this.
It's it's just a matter of.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Tolerance. I don't think even tolerance is the word.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's embraced and it's encouraged by people like the Democratic
Socialists of America because this is their version of equity.
They think it's it you have to understand. And I
hesitate to talk like this because it might sound like
it's conspiracy crazy talk. They hate the capitalist society we

(08:51):
have in America. It angers them and it defends them,
and so they're actively trying to undermine that. That's what
Zoron Donnie is doing. That's what the four Democratic Socialists
and the La City Council are trying to do, to
undermine and equalize society. That's why you have homeless shelters

(09:13):
in nice residential neighborhoods where people are doing well, middle class,
upper middle class, and wealthy, and then that's not fair
in their eyes, and so everybody's got to be punished
and the neighbor neighborhood has to be degraded. See, it's
not about uplifting the people. The drug addicts and the
mental patients in the streets and helping them. It's about

(09:35):
degrading everyone else's neighborhood to somehow equalize our existence. And
that's what they believe in.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And you just have.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
To read what they you know, read their websites, read
their propaganda, and you could see their actions, match their policies,
match their stated goals.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
So this is going to be normal now.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
The former New York Police Department chief of department they
call him, he's the highest, He was the highest uniformed officer.
He since retired, John Chell, and he was called a
New York Post saying this is going to lead to
a sharp increase in shanty towns developing along the city

(10:19):
streets of New York like we have here in LA.
He says, under current law, you generally cannot force individuals
into shelter. The majority refuse services. Boy that point has
been debated for so many years because the people who

(10:41):
are trying to ruin our quality of life keep insisting
that we have to do outreach, and when it doesn't work,
you do more outreach, and when it doesn't work, you
do more outreach. Except it doesn't work because they don't
want to go. I remember Gavin Newsom, Saul, I just
don't believe that it was probably line that is a

(11:02):
fact of life. Most of these people don't want to
go indoors, and they don't want rules and regulations. They
don't want to get off the drugs. They don't want
people telling them what to do. They don't want to
be constricted in any way. They would rather risk dying
in the street because they're whacked out in a meth
haze or a fentental haze, or god knows what anyway,
so they don't even know if they're living or dead.

(11:23):
They don't even know their name half the time. The
only way to deal with this is force people, force
them at gunpoint if necessary, into some kind of treatment center,
and never allow anybody to sleep in the streets, which
is the way they conduct business in most cities in

(11:46):
the country, and most cities here in Los Angeles County
and an Orange County. You could go to Manhattan Beach
and you will find zero people living in the streets.
Beverly Hills, zero people living in the streets. Beverly Hills
is bordered largely by Los Angeles and West Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
West Hollywood has very few too.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
You go to Orange County, you're not going to find
these encampments like an Irvine, for example, doesn't exist. I'm
going to find them in the Laguna Beach, Newport Beach.
And it's not even a matter of liberal or conservative.
It's just that some cities say, well, these are the rules.
You can't sleep in public period. And Karen Bass, she's

(12:30):
part of this group, part of the movement. The movement
is about letting homeless people live and die in the streets.
It's equity and it's about enabling illegal alience. That's why
so much money is funded to Charlot, for example, who

(12:53):
provides the spark for the rioters whenever they have an
anti ice riots, holds a press conference for Churla to
get people to join the riots. She holds press conferences
for legal aliens so they can apply for medical benefits
and get free health care. And she never does anything

(13:14):
about homelessness. She has a fake program called inside Safe,
and she lies about the numbers. The RAND Corporation proved
that Rand Corporation did their own count in three major
LA districts and found that Bass's numbers were wildly undercounted,
sometimes up to forty percent doesn't stop the news media

(13:35):
from repeating Basses lies that homelessness is down slightly.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
She just lied about the numbers, and the Rand Corporation
proved that she was lying. But why would you go
to the Rand corporation? Those are super intelligent people quote
stupid political hacks instead, going back to Cell, who is
the Chief of Department for NYPD. Outreach does not automatically

(14:05):
mean acceptance. Ending street intervention programs before building sufficient housing,
shelter and treatment capacity is not a plan.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's a gamble.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
These resources must be first created and clearly codified, otherwise
you're gonna have a sharp rise in encampments, declining street conditions,
serious quality of life impacts across our neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, I you know, I.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You so all these this A I don't get You
have all these screaming mom Donnie supporters who are getting
all whipped up because he's a handsome guy with a
beard on social media and they weren't paying attention to
his policies which are going to be really destructive. And
you know, he has a lot of young women who
supported him. These young women are going to enjoy all
these like sex molesters and child molesters, and criminals and

(14:57):
drug addicts and mental patients, chasing them and leering at
them and threatening them as they walk on the streets.
Young women aren't gonna have a moment of peace in
New York once these encampments start spreading. But they were
so mesmerized by his charisma. Does anybody think, does anyone

(15:19):
think at all and analyze things intelligently.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, they're gonna get what they voted for.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Boy, he's a month away from taking over and now now,
and I mean I would suggest that, in fact, maybe
we could encourage all the people here in Los Angeles,
all the vagrants. Let's buy him bus tickets to New
York City. Mom, Donnie's gonna welcome you.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Win.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Your weather is a little harsh, but if you pump
yourself up with enough fentanyl and math, you're not gonna notice.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now after three o'clock, we're gonna have Rob Montz. He's
a director who grew up in the Palace and then
he moved to the East Coast for college. His mother's
house burned in the Palisades fire, he came back to
the Palisades and he's done a thirty minute documentary to

(16:15):
try to find out why the Palisades was abandoned to burn.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's how he puts it.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
He's done dozens of original interviews and he's got other
video never before seen, and he put together this documentary.
We're going to have him on the show coming up
after three o'clock. And the film is called Paradise Abandoned
Inside the Pacific Palisades Fire, and it's being released today

(16:45):
and we'll tell you how you can watch it, where
you can find it, and we'll talk to Rob Montz
coming up after three o'clock. Oh and in the next segment,
at about two fifty or so, we'll play you a
four minute clip from the documentary. There's a number of
people who are putting out uh documentaries on what happened

(17:06):
because the whole story, most of the story, just hasn't
been explained in detail yet. And you know, every week
we come out with something that's more and more and
more damning of the city government, the fire department, the
Parks department, Gavin Newsom's office, just ay, the you know,
the insurance commissioner. There is there is so much incompetence

(17:30):
and so much corruption and so much stupidity. Anyway, we
talked to Rob Monts, the filmmaker coming up next. We'll
play is a clip and then we'll talk to him
after three.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
All right.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Uh, here's another thing I'm baffled by. I heard I
heard like a brief summary of his story on the radio. Uh,
I guess maybe on KFI. I just didn't get it.
Not that it wasn't explained in the h in the newscast,
It's just I didn't understand this. Apparently, the parents of

(18:06):
an eight year old girl are suing a private school
in Chatsworth here in Los Angeles, Sierra Canyon School. I'm
familiar with that school, although my kids did not go there.
The eight year old, the eight year old's parents, it's

(18:28):
the Kidness family, and they are saying that their daughter
was dragged into some kind of kissing club, a kissing club.
Pentea Kipness is the child's mother, and she said it
was started by older students who bullied and sexually assaulted

(18:51):
their daughter. Now, this is a K through twelfth grade school,
high end prep school, cost forty five thousand a year
to send a kid, so I'm thinking, well, this must
be high school perverts. Fifteen sixteen, seventeen years old. They're

(19:11):
kissing eight year old because let me tell you, let
me tell you what they did. The kids did, and
then I'll tell you who did it, because it wasn't
fifteen sixteen seventeen year old male perverts. Apparently, the older
students would call the girl names peak through the bathroom

(19:36):
stall while she used the bathroom and pressured others.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
To commit sexual acts.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
The child, this little eight year old, is pressured to
kiss the others in the club and forced to kiss
and touch the genital areas of the two older girls.
They recorded some of the acts on the girl's phones.
The teacher took one of the phones and sent the
videos of the acts to herself and showed them to

(20:06):
other staff. The mother is reporting this bullying to the
administrators at Sierra Canyon, but nothing was done. So I
remember I told you the victim was eight years old. Well,

(20:28):
this happened to her when she was seven and the perpetrators.
Perpetrators were eight year olds. Apparently, during school hours, seven
and eight year old female students would gather inside the
bathrooms to participate in the kissing club, and the eight
year olds pressured, intimidated and bullied the younger students to

(20:51):
join the club, including this seven year old girl at
the time, the daughter of Pentea Kipness. She's filing a lawsuit.
She said the school knew about this and didn't do anything. Now,
where would eight year old girls get the idea to

(21:12):
forcibly kiss and touch or to force the seven year
olds to kiss and touch the genital areas of the
eight year olds? Like, where do they possibly get this idea?
And they've got phones and they're allowed to take the
phones into school and use them, and they're in the
bathroom recording these these sex acts. This is the part

(21:35):
I didn't get at first. It's seven year olds being
sexually assaulted by eight year olds at a wealthy private
school in Chatsworth. Now the lawsuit is because the school
didn't report the assault. You know, the state law says

(21:55):
it's mandatory reporting. They're suspected child abuse, the school staff
has to report it. None of this I understand it all.
I mean, there's got to be some kind of weird
abuse going on in the homes of the eight year
olds right that they would be able to pick this
up I olthough I was, I was kissed against my

(22:22):
will by an eight year old girl in second grade.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
But it stopped there. It was just a beck on
the cheek. How'd that work out for you? Huh? Are
you married to her today?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
She's cute though, name was Sharon. She was really wow
you remember the name. You always remember your first kiss,
don't you? And shocked me. I thought, oh did I
actually told the teacher went up her.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sharon just kissed me, you cooties, And so I'm trying
to figure out The teacher took one of the kid's
phones and then sent the videos of these girls being
forced to kiss and touch the genitals of the eight
year olds. No, these are eight year olds touching. No,

(23:12):
the seven year olds are being forced by the eight
year olds to touch the genitals of the eight year olds.
These are all girls. And then the teacher shows them
around and nobody reports this to stop it. And the
Sierra Canyon School knew about the kissing club eventually, but
did not notify the mother, Pettia Kipness, or the husband,
Max Kipness, or the police. The whole thing is just

(23:34):
ridiculously baffling, you know, after all, the scandals. I mean,
I mean like the archdiocese scandals here in La go
back almost twenty five years now, and all the bad
publicity you had, sex scandals in LAUSD, the sex scandals
with the Catholic Church, sex scandals with the boy Scouts,

(23:57):
and still how many billions and billions and billions of
dollars have been paid out in damages. And still when
teachers and administrators at a school get wind of funky
stuff going on, they don't do anything about it. They're
not disgusted, grossed out, scared, horrified, or worried that this

(24:17):
is going to cost everybody an enormous amount of money.
I just I don't get it. All right, we come back.
Rob Monts is coming on. No, these gonna come on
after three. But in next segment, we are going to
play a clip of this thirty minute documentary called Paradise
Abandoned inside the Pacific Palisades Fire. He wants to know

(24:41):
why the Palisades was abandoned to burn, So we will
play you a clip in the next segment, and then
after three o'clock we'll talk to Rob Monts. He grew
up in the Palisades.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Forty and before we play a clip of this documentary
about the Palisades called Paradise Abandoned.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Another odd thing happened in the Palisades some now Here's
a guy.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Who's described as a hip hop artist and social media influencer.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Is that a job? He calls himself.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Clinton Lord C l I N T N l O
r D. I never heard of this guy, but I'm
not up on hip hop influencers. His real names Clinton Adams.
He's thirty two, has hundreds of thousands of followers on
Instagram at TikTok, and apparently it's a lot of pictures

(25:54):
of himself at public events like the BET Awards, and
he's on runways. He works with designer brands. What he's
really been doing is he took over a home in
the Palisades. This home had been vacated because of smoke damage.

(26:16):
Apparently Clinton Adams didn't mind the smoke stink, and he
broke in. Owners didn't know, and he was a squatter.
And what he would do is he would lure women
into the home and he raped them. And he finally

(26:36):
got arrested on November nineteenth, and now they've released his
photograph and he looks like a hip hop influencer. He's
they're looking for more victims. They figured these aren't the
only three women that he pulled this on. He would
meet his victims locally on the West Side and the

(26:59):
Ladas off This has charged him three countsl raight, one
count of an assault with intent to commit a felony.
He met two different women and invited him to a
place and he said, hey, this is my home in
the Palisades June twenty ninth. One incident occurred August seventh,
August eighth. He's now being held on almost a million
and a half dollars bail. And I don't know exactly

(27:21):
what he's he's, what he's done, what he's created in life,
but they have found a criminal record. In twenty twenty one,
he was arrested and charged with discharging a weapon and
a felling charge of throwing a missile.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
A missile doesn't explain what the missile is.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
He pled guilty, got probation, and then he was committed
some kind of parole violation along the way. He's been
the subject of a restraining order and now he's got
three charges of rape because he took over a Palisades
smoke doubt house and squatted and lured women inside. All right, now,

(28:06):
let's uh, let's play a clip here. It's about four minutes.
It's Rob Monts. He's a director. He grew up in
the Palisades before moving to the East Coast, and he
came back to try to figure out why was the
Palisades abandoned to burn. Documentary is being released today and

(28:26):
here's an excerpt.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
The Chase Bank building was burning. I was there when
it started. There was a little fire up on the roof.
The mayor and the governor were in the middle of
town doing a news conference, and in the background you
see the Chase Bank building burning to the ground. They

(28:48):
weren't doing anything. The whole thing is burned right to
the ground, with the mayor and the governor within.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
A block of the place.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Methodist Church on Viade Lapause. It was probably close to
one hundred years old.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
This town was founded by Methodists with utopian dreams. They'd
come to the sea not for money or fame or power,
but to establish a Christian camp, sermons and games in
the most beautiful place on God's green earth. In nineteen

(29:29):
thirty eight, they built this church. It's where I went
to preschool. And on day two its tower catches fire.
A fire truck sits a block away.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
This neighborhood burned down on day two. You think that
they would have made some sort of effort to try
to save this neighborhood in others, and they didn't come.
My neighbor across the street, he came back on day
two he saw that there was fires breaking out. My

(30:16):
understanding is that he went back and told the fire
fighters who were on the beach, and he said they
were eating breakfast burritos and had been told to stand down,
and they didn't come.

Speaker 9 (30:29):
This is our neighbor here. He was a school teacher.
Let's see, this is a fancy pot in my life.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Just got.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
What are you gonna do with that stuff?

Speaker 9 (30:46):
We're gonna throw it away.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
The people with power over the Palisades failed to respect
this land. They failed to respect nature's violence. Their failures
fueled the fire, and as night turned a morning, with
the Palisades still burning, the people with power made a decision,

(31:20):
not incompetence, not an inevitability, but a conscious decision to
give up. They leave my city my childhood in ruins
and then brag about how quickly don't rebuild it.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
One of the fastest recoveries in our state history.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
This has been the fastest fire recovery in modern history.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
We are doing the fastest degree removal of else's recovery.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Of anywhere in the nation.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
I think they're trying to forget.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
We'll hold it.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
No, no soup, Let's figure out what happened here?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Why was no one fighting fires on the eighth.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, there you go. That's uh.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
What does this city say when people like you press
them on that question.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
It's under investigation, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It's paradise abandoned inside the Pacific Palisades Fire. Rob Monts
is the director. We're going to talk to him coming
up right after Michael Kurzer's news, because the stuff he's
talking about is the stuff I've heard from a lot
of people that I know or have met in the
Palisades because I just live a couple of miles away,

(32:59):
and my wife and I hiked three times a week
in this canyon park nearby, and we run into Palisades
residents all the time who homes were burned, and my
wife compulsively interviews people, and we've heard some amazing stuff
and what you heard in that in that clip, it's true.

(33:22):
The firemen we're standing around, I mean firemen eating breakfast burritos,
and they told residents, but we were told to stand down.
And then I've seen this clip of Bass and Newsom
Online holding a news conference with the Chase Bank building
burning behind them, and honestly, I looked at it. It's like, no, well,

(33:44):
this has got to be AI right. I don't know
what to trust anymore. But then this is true, and
I think, yeah, they made a decision to let it burn.
I really do. And more and more people I talked
to in the Palisades have come to that belief. They
didn't want to believe it at first. At first some
people would dismiss it and say, no, that can't be.

(34:04):
You don't want to believe it, But yeah, I think
that's what happened. We'll talk to Bob Monts coming out,
and this documentary is getting released today.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's next.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast.
You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
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