December 12, 2025 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (12/12) - USC Professor Michael Mische and UC Berkeley Professor James Rector join the show. Plus, how a billion dollars was looted by Somali immigrants in Minnesota.
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this weekend. Coming up in a moment, we're gonna have
Michael mcche USC Professor, James Rector, UC Berkeley professor, And
it looks like Los Angeles County wants to ban oil
and gas production again, and that's actually the city wants
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to do that, and they're.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Gonna explain why that's a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You know, it's done because we're you know, for the
good of the climate and emissions. But they say that
you'll actually worsen the emissions by not extracting the oil
from the ground as opposed to letting it sit there
and to bubble up through the tar pits for example.
Let'll explain all this coming up in a minute. It's
fascinating now the gas price averages, I should tell you.
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While gas prices are falling throughout the country. But there's
still four dollars in forty cents here in California four
dollars and forty for regular.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
However, in Oklahoma they're.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Two dollars and thirty five cents, so over two bucks last.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Two thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Florida is at two dollars and eighty four cents.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And even high tax left wing states like New Jersey
is two dollars and ninety four cents, Massachusetts three oh one,
even New York State is only three ten.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But here we're at four forty.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And there are looked u up yesterday if you didn't
hear looked up gas pumps through gasbuddy dot com. And
in the Denver area, honest to god, there's there's ten
gas stations in the Denver area, at least ten selling
gas between a dollars sixty nine dollars seventy seven. A
guy from Colorado had sent us a photo one of
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our listeners there.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And I didn't believe it. I thought it was Ai doctored,
a prank. Check it out.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, really, dollars sixty nine you can get to in Denver, Colorado,
and we're at four forty. And of course what we
need is war oil and gas production, and of course
LA is proposing to ban it again. It's been banned
and unbanned, and now to explain why we should have
oil and gas production in LA. I know it sounds sacrilegious,
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doesn't it. We're going to put on a usc Professor
Michael Machet we've had on many times, and returning to
the show as well, Professor James Rector from UC Berkeley.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Welcome, gentlemen. How are you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you, Joe and Michael.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You there, Triffy, John, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm glad you could join us. Now, what you're saying
is most people wouldn't understand, or they would probably they
have immediately they would recoil it the idea that somehow
you could end up with more emissions by not producing
oil and gas from the ground. I know this is
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something you're especially an expert in, Professor Rector. Why didn't
you explain the concept here?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I'd be happy to. You know, there have been
a lot of studies that have been done over the
past decades about health effects of living near oil and
gas fields, and they've found more asthma and a lot
of bad things that have happened to people living in
the vicinity of things these things. Now, because of that,
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California has enacted very stringent emissions monitoring and today, as
of twenty twenty five, there are virtually no emissions at
oil and gas fields. And yet these studies continue and
say people are still getting sick living near.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
These near oil and gas fields.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And so the industry is pointing the finger at the
studies saying, oh, the studies are wrong, and so you're saying, no,
we're right, you're cooking the book somehow on your emissions.
There are more emission than you think. Well, they're both right,
but for different reasons. It turns out that oil and
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gas fields occur along major faults in Los Angeles, like
a straight line between La City all the way through
Wiltshire and the Librea tar Pits all the way to
Santa Monica and then straight south as well. These are
earthquake faults too. They have oil pools underneath them, but
they also seep oil to the surface, like at the
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Librea tar Pits. So being near and oil and gas
fields means you're also near these seep locations. And people
have done studies that say that the amount of toxic
emissions that you were ingesting walking around Hancock Park today
is about two hundred times more than what you would
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get going to a drilling island where they're actually extracting
oil and gas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So it would be better to extract it from the
ground rather than letting it from underground, rather than let
it seep up to the surface, because that's where all
the emissions are, that's where all the toxic.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Toxic elements are for us to breathe.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, that's been going on four thousands, if not millions
of years in LA.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It's never changed. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So what happens though, when you start producing oil and gas,
as long as you do it responsibil responsibly and with
real regulated approaches, is that you take away the oil
and gas, you depressurize the reservoir. And we know that
when you do that from other studies that the emissions drop,
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the seep emissions go down.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So the more gas and oil you produce from underground.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The seep emissions and the safer LA will be.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, most people probably wouldn't think that would be true,
but it makes sense. If you pump oil and gas out,
that does relieve the pressure and you don't have the
emissions bubbling up into the atmosphere as much.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's true in they've they've done studies in Santa Barbara
and some of these GASIU seats simply disappeared after they
produced oil and gas for a while.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is that right, because the emissions you say they are
one hundred times greater than the leaks the emissions.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Of the natural seats.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The natural seats are now as of twenty twenty five,
one hundred times greater than the leaks from oil and
gas operating equipment. This didn't happen fifty years ago. We've
done a good job of making LA and California production
very clean, but as of now, that's the ratio LA
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is essentially sitting on. Is a very unique place in
the world. There's more oil per square meter in some
parts of LA than any other place in the world.
It's like an oil volcano.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's gonna explode.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean my next question.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, it's seeping up along these faults, okay, and it's
slowly degassing all over the place along these faults, and
those waltz are where the oil fields are. So of course,
if it's degassing, it's toxic chemicals. It can cause health effects.
But it's not The oil production is doing a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Michael Masche and he's the USC professor.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Michael, if we actually started pumping oil and converting it
to gasoline from here in Los Angeles, would that have
a meaningful impact on the supply and the price in
this state?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, it certainly would. John as profector Rector and I
and are co author Joe Silva put together when we
looked at production in Kern County and offshore of Santa Barbara,
it was very meaningful impacted. So if you increase the
production in Kern, and you increase the production offshore, you
would have a very favorable impact on California oil supplies
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and gasoline supplies and in turn a favorable impact on
the prices of those They will come down for the consumer.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So this idea that you're promoting here would sounds like
a great deal for everybody. We'd have less emissions in
the atmosphere if we pumped out the oil rather than
let it bubble to the surface, and it would give
us a significant boost to our oil supply and lower
the gas prices.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What time, Sorry, sorry, I'll let Jam take over from there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, it's even better than that. There's probably over a
billion barrels of oil recoverable oil in the northern part
of La La County. That's a lot of oil. That's
you know, billions of dollars in tax revenues and other things.
But it's not just the oil coming out. It even
may have impacts on things like wildfires, because wildfires sometimes
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in the mountains are perpetuated by these oil and gas
seeps another word, seeping oil and gas. If there are
method there's mething coming out that's flammable and wild players
can actually be enhanced by these seats.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
All right, guys, hang on the line.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
You've just heard Professor James Rector from UC Berkeley and
also talking with USC Professor Michael mcche about the vast
amount of oil below the surface here in Los Angeles County.
The city of Los Angeles wants to ban the drilling again,
even though it may be beneficial to the environment and
to our oil supply into gas prices if we drilled
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for it and extracted it.
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could follow us on social Media at John Cobelt Radio.
At John Cobelt Radio, I'm talking with two professors, Professor
James Rector from UC Berkeley and also Professor Michael Msche
from USC. We've had Profess Mache on a number of
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times over the price of gas. We've had doctor Rector
on before as well. He's an expert in California oil
and gas reservoirs and oil drilling, and this is pretty
simple to understand. We have a huge reservoir of oil
beneath the surface in Los Angeles and it seeps out
I think the Librea tar pits, so you get these
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toxic emissions seeping into the air. We could drill for
the oil, but the city wants to ban oil drilling.
And what Professor Rector and Professor Mache are saying is
if we drilled for the oil and relieve the pressure,
you are going to have less seepage and less emissions
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into the atmosphere and it'll be less unhealthy here. In addition,
as Michael Niche pointed out, you have more oil production,
which we need desperately, and you'll have lower gasoline prices.
So it seems like a good deal. But we got
I guess, Professor Rector. We were dealing with the La
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City Council here.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, the Planning Commission, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Planning Commission. And are those bureaucrats or are those elected officials?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, Now, have you made a presentation to them yet?
I mean, you're aware that they would like to ban drilling. Again,
have you gotten in contact with them to explain how
the science works.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I made a public comment yesterday or maybe it was
a couple of days ago, and that's the only communication
I've had.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
With them, right, because I mean, how how receptive are
are people in government? Usually when people like you and
Michael mcchey go in there and say, look, here's how
it works, and we can show you that things could
be better if we just drill for the oil and
reduce the seepage and reduce the emissions that are leaking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, all I can say is that nobody has contacted
me since my public comment, and maybe they will in
the future.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, Michael miche I know you you've been on the
leading edge of fighting about the oil production issue here
in the state, and you've been you've been attacked by
Governor Newsom's office. But are you making any headway with
any legislators or bureaucrats in your sphere when you talk
about increasing production.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, I think we have and you know we have
SB two thirty seven, which was passed to help increase
production in Karrent County. You know a year ago that
that thing would have never been conceived of, let alone past.
And so we've had, we have, We've made some we've
made some you know, headway. I do think there's been
quite a bit of discussion now beginning in Washington, d C.
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About California oil production and gasoline and it's impact on
national security. As a matter of fact, I think the
President or the Secretary Burgham just released a comment just
a few hours ago on national security issues related to
California oil and gasoline production. So you know, we are
getting some awareness of that, and I would think we're
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going to get some favorable action on the part of
the consumer coming up here in twenty six.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Let me let me ask you something.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mentioned this in the opening about gas prices around
the country, Like we're at an average of four point
forty here in California, it's two ninety four nationally. We
know much of the California problem is the excessive taxes
and regulation. But how the hell can they be selling
gas at ten stations in and Denver at least ten
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stations for between a dollars sixty nine and a dollars
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How can they do that? What that baffles me?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's a dollar less than the average in the rest
of the country.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, it is, and it's a great question to ask.
I mean, if you take a look at the California
gasoline prices, a dollar forty four of that price at
the pump, and by the way, we're fifty percent higher
as you pointed out in the rest nation. But a
dollar forty four of the gasoline prices are taxes and
fees that the state government and the county government imposed
upon the California consumer. And so the largest component of
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that is what's called the state excise tax, and that's
sixty one point two cents a gallon. Now, you know,
to kind of put that in perspective, the person that
owns the gas station or operates it, they're going to
get anywhere from eight to twelve cents a gallon on
that gallon of gas. The state gets sixty one point
two cents a gallon on the same gallon of gas.
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So I think that that helps put that in context.
Our taxes are the highest in the country. In the state,
excise taxes peopled the national average.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It took away all that, it took away all the
taxes in California, we'd get roughly down to the national average.
But what I'm wondering is how do these stations in
Denver get a dollar below the national average.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
How do they do that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, you know, it's going to be the cost of
their product. So they're closer to refiners, they have more options,
they have a higher supply, probably a greater certainty of that.
Colorado does have some oil production in there. They're getting
fed from refiners in the Midwest, so it's really going
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to be the cost of their product that's reflected in that.
Because California has no pipelines coming into the state, and
I know that's incredulous, but it's an absolute fact. There's
no pipelines coming in. We are totally dependent on maritime transportation.
And because our production has fallen, as Jamie has pointed out,
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we now import over sixty five percent of oil from
foreign nations such as Iraq, so our costs are incredibly high.
You marry the high cost of importation with high operating costs.
Our refineries operate somewhere between twenty seven to thirty eight
percent higher cost than any national average for a refinery.
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And then you add into that to state taxes, well
you have high gasoline prices. So it's just the cost
build up is just so much great.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
All right, well, doctor Michael Mache, thank you for coming on,
professor at USC. And James Rector, Doctor Rector, thank you
for coming on as well from UC Berkeley and explaining
this concept. And I hope you have a good fortune
trying to convince bureaucrats and politicians here that would be
beneficial for everyone if we started drilling for the oil
and gas under the ground of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Well hopefully you know.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I'm all about the environment in this argument, and we
need more study, of course, but I think the kind
of common sense dictates that if we really do want
to clean up the environment, we need to get rid
of the oil under all at.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Right, and then get rid of the seepitch. Thank you
very much, both of you. We'll talk again.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, We've got we're coming up.
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Excuse me, all right? You got to hear this? Or
do you have to hear this?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm fascinated by this fraud situation in Minnesota with the Somalis.
It's just stunning that a billion dollars was looted by
these immigrants and the Governor Tim Wattzon his administration. Everybody
was afraid to call them on it because they didn't
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want to be accused of racism. Apparently accusing thieves of
stealing is considered racist in some circles.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I what do.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You say this is? That's so ludical, it's so silly.
And Waltz is now spitting up all over himself. Every
time I see a clip of him trying to explain this,
he just sounds like a bigger and bigger fool because
there's no explanation.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Why don't you just admit it?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You were afraid of activist groups and Somali groups of
calling you racist. You're afraid you were going to lose
their votes, so you allowed it to happen. The whistleblowers
in Minnesota are saying that the Waltz administration was told
over and over and over again what was happening, and
they were the ones who were smacked down.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The whistleblowers. Now, what did the what did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
These fraudsters do with the proceeds. We've got a story
here from CBS News Jonah Kaplan. They got dozens of
files and photos on what the fraudsters spent the money on.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Play cut number one.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
A honeymoon in the Maldives, a fleet of luxury cars.
Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a
Neutrova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how a
group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One text
message reads, you are going to be the richest twenty
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five year old.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
We're not even at the end of the beginning of
our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people
who stole it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
US attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the
wave of COVID era fraud that hit Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So how much.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?
Speaker 7 (20:38):
I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a
billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,
sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American
Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are
accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed
low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to
autistic children.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
This was a get rich scheme.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Andy Lueger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.
He left in January.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
One of the things we discovered is that a number
of the people involved we're buying investment property resort property
in Kenya.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than
one million dollars went to Chinese banks. The Trump administration
has said it's investigating whether any of the money fell
into the hands of terror groups like Al Schabab and Somalia,
but both Luger and Rosen agree the evidence so far
shows the criminals we're only interested in getting rich. So
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there's no evidence that any of these convicted or those
who are charged sent a check and directly gave it
to al Shabab. I think that's a fair characterization. These
are federally funded programs. They happen in every US state.
What happened here in Minnesota that allowed this fraud to
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materialize to metastasize.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
It appears that the people at the highest levels of
responsibility in the government of the state of Minnesota looked
the other way.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
A spokeswoman for Minnesota Governor Tim Watson I tells us
that fighting the fraud, it's his quote top priority and thought,
is something that happens in state's red and blue. Tomorrow,
the governor plans to name a new statewide frauds are
members of the Somali community. Meanwhile, they're warning that they
as a community are being held collectively.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Responsible, so they continue with the racism defense just keeps
going on and on. Waltz should be out of office.
I mean they should be carrying him out of office
and put on a train and set out of the country.
He knew what was going on his whole administration. Did
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you want to hear the stuff they were buying and
this is from the exhibits from the federal trial.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right, this is real. In fact, I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Photos Jonathan Kaplan mentioned. Rather Jonah Kaplan mentioned a box
of cash. I'm looking at the photo of the box
of cash two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. It's actually
fascinating to see what two hundred and seventy thousand dollars
looks like when wrapped in rubber bands, tightly packed. There's
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also a message that says two hundred and seventy thousand
dollars and what else are in the exhibits? A confirmation
email for a stay in a villa over the water
with a private pool at the Radisson Blue Resort in Maldives,
Beautiful resort islands out in the Indian Ocean, lakefront property
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in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They bought lakefront property.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
There's receipts showing wire transfers to China and East Africa.
By the way, the money that went to China is
very difficult to track. When they say there's no evidence
that the money directly went to al Shabab, the terrorist group,
that doesn't mean the money didn't got indirectly to the
terrorist group. That that was the original intention to get
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it there. It's just basic money laundry. Why would it
be rooted through China? And the investigators say, it's really
hard when the money's rooted through China to figure out
where it went. It's like an investigative black hole. An
investigative black hole. Somebody bought a twenty twenty one Porsche
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Macan and first class tickets to Istanbul and Amsterdam. One
of these guys is Abdumajid Mohammed Nur.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And he's twenty four years old.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And the judge in the case said, where others saw
a crisis and rush to help, you saw money and
rush to steal. He's getting ten years in prison. He's
gonna have to pay forty eight million dollars in restitution.
Another guy, abd Aziz Shafi Farah, twenty eight years in prison.
He made six transfers each worth more than a million
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dollars to China. Then what don't tell me this couldn't
ended up in the hands of terrace. Of course it could.
You aren't gonna write a check or a wire transfer
to the leader of al Shabab.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Al Shabab.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In one text, Fara Farah instructed someone to send one
thousand dollars to Mogadishu, Bakara. That is where al Shabab
had a stronghold. It was the site of the Blackhawk
down incident back in nineteen ninety three. Remember that there
was a famous movie. Eighteen American service members were killed.
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Farah opened Empire Cuisine and Market, a Minnesota restaurant that
was connected with a nonprofitating our future. They claimed they
were cooking and giving meals to children and they build
the state for forty seven million dollars. They claimed to
serve eighteen million meals. They never served one meal, not
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one bowl of soup, not one plate of fries, not
one bola macaroni.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
There.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
There is video where Farah.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Is seen popping champagne at a private pool in the Maldives.
Ilhad omar that lunatic, who's now another crazy congresswoman. She's
the one who married a brother to get him into
the country. She went on face the nation and said
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that any link between allegations of fraud by members of
the Somali community and terrorism would be a failure of
the FBI. That would be a failure of the FBI
in our court system for not figuring that out not
a not evil by terrorists, and there are accomplices in
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the Somali community. It would be the FBI's fault for
not figuring it out. Well, it's hard to figure it
out when Waltz was covering it all up. Can you
believe the depth of this insanity? When we come back,
it looks like there's a similar story in Ohio, and
we've got an attorney a clip of an attorney who's
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explaining how bad it is there. It might be even
worse than Minnesota.
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Speaker 4 (27:56):
You got to get that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Right, all right? Three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know that the terrible story about the eight Anaheim
eight Anaheim High School students who were hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
It turns out the driver was duy guy still driving.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It turns out that California has a tremendous number of
DUI accidents by people who've already been convicted. But we've
got some of the weakest laws in the country. Isn't
that weird considering what a wacky nanny state we've got
in so many ways, But when it comes to DUI,
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the laws are relatively light and not particularly enforced and
followed up. I found that really strange for all the
stupid things that they obsess on. Maybe it's gouse new
some likesis tequila. I don't know. We'll do that after
three o'clock. All right, we're gonna play a clip here.
We just laid out the case in Minnesota, the fraudsters
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that have stolen a billion dollars in taxpayer money Somali,
ring eighty seven people. You've heard about that. Now in
Ohio it's pretty bad too. And here is Fox News
Digital interviewed Meheck Cook, an Ohio attorney who said that
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Minnesota is just the tip of the sphere that there's
a massive medicaid fraud going on within the Somali community
in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Listened to about a minute of the Heck Cook.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I mean, there's a lot of fraud and it's cyclical here.
Most of the individuals that have come and talked to me,
Peter are terrified, they have said, and I quote I
will be stoned to death if I show my face
on camera or expose what's happening. I think that Minnesota
was just the tip of the sphere, and as you
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continue to see what's happening across the country, I think
logically you should start with a place like Ohio have
the second highest Somalian population. I live in Columbus, Ohio,
so we have between forty and sixty thousand Somalian residents.
We're one of the largest Somali communities in the United States.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And many came here legally.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
There were refugees between the nineteen nineties and two thousands,
and many of them are law abiding. I know the
Somalian community, great people. Many of them are working hard.
The problem today is not the community. It's actually the
criminals within the Somalian community that have exploited Ohio's medicaid program.
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Because we have a system right now, it's one of
the easiest in the Midwest to game I was able
to envite.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I'll stop right there. Let me explain. In Ohio, if
you're an individual, you could receive Medicaid payments up to
ninety one thousand dollars a year per person for care
that you're supposed to be giving to a family member,
So I guess there are no family members, and the
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quote fake caregiver is getting ninety one grand of tax money.
And then the doctors who approve these payments get kickbacks themselves.
So you fill out a form and say, yeah, I'm
taking care of my dad here, except there is no
dad here, and the doctor says, okay, can I have
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some of the ninety one grand? Yeah, sure, let's talk
about it. And the heck cook says they're just rubber
stamping a lot of these. The same individual then a
week later that is supposed to be bedridden is now
all over social media, out dancing at a party or
something like that. So she said the symptoms aren't really
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adding up at the end of the day. And she
makes it sound as if there's more in Ohio adjusted
for the population. Then there is Minnesota that would be
three D. Because we had a report from News Nation
last week about Maine and the Somali community there, and
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Tim Waltz today said, well, you've got fraud and all
kinds of communities.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well there shouldn't be, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You should be able to stop all the fraud and
the difference is apparently maybe if it were, if it
wasn't so Molly's, you would be stopping the fraud. But
you let them get away with it because you're woke,
because you don't want to be called racist, and because
you want their votes.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He is a clown. He might be worse than Newsome,
all right?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Coming up next, eight high school kids in Anaheim on
the running team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
They got hit by a.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
A a guy and this guy has a DUI passed.
And it turns out in California, for all their netty
state of essiens, drunk drivers aren't one of them. Surprisingly
lenient laws and no follow up. We'll tell you about it.
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Michael mcche USC Professor, James Rector, UC Berkeley professor, And
it looks like Los Angeles County wants to ban oil
and gas production again, and that's actually the city wants
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to do that, and they're.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Gonna explain why that's a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You know, it's done because we're you know, for the
good of the climate and emissions. But they say that
you'll actually worsen the emissions by not extracting the oil
from the ground as opposed to letting it sit there
and to bubble up through the tar pits for example.
Let'll explain all this coming up in a minute. It's
fascinating now the gas price averages, I should tell you.
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While gas prices are falling throughout the country. But there's
still four dollars in forty cents here in California four
dollars and forty for regular.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
However, in Oklahoma they're.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Two dollars and thirty five cents, so over two bucks last.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Two thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Florida is at two dollars and eighty four cents.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And even high tax left wing states like New Jersey
is two dollars and ninety four cents, Massachusetts three oh one,
even New York State is only three ten.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But here we're at four forty.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And there are looked u up yesterday if you didn't
hear looked up gas pumps through gasbuddy dot com. And
in the Denver area, honest to god, there's there's ten
gas stations in the Denver area, at least ten selling
gas between a dollars sixty nine dollars seventy seven. A
guy from Colorado had sent us a photo one of
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our listeners there.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And I didn't believe it. I thought it was Ai doctored,
a prank. Check it out.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, really, dollars sixty nine you can get to in Denver, Colorado,
and we're at four forty. And of course what we
need is war oil and gas production, and of course
LA is proposing to ban it again. It's been banned
and unbanned, and now to explain why we should have
oil and gas production in LA. I know it sounds sacrilegious,
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doesn't it. We're going to put on a usc Professor
Michael Machet we've had on many times, and returning to
the show as well, Professor James Rector from UC Berkeley.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Welcome, gentlemen. How are you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you, Joe and Michael.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You there, Triffy, John, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm glad you could join us. Now, what you're saying
is most people wouldn't understand, or they would probably they
have immediately they would recoil it the idea that somehow
you could end up with more emissions by not producing
oil and gas from the ground. I know this is
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something you're especially an expert in, Professor Rector. Why didn't
you explain the concept here?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I'd be happy to. You know, there have been
a lot of studies that have been done over the
past decades about health effects of living near oil and
gas fields, and they've found more asthma and a lot
of bad things that have happened to people living in
the vicinity of things these things. Now, because of that,
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California has enacted very stringent emissions monitoring and today, as
of twenty twenty five, there are virtually no emissions at
oil and gas fields. And yet these studies continue and
say people are still getting sick living near.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
These near oil and gas fields.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And so the industry is pointing the finger at the
studies saying, oh, the studies are wrong, and so you're saying, no,
we're right, you're cooking the book somehow on your emissions.
There are more emission than you think. Well, they're both right,
but for different reasons. It turns out that oil and
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gas fields occur along major faults in Los Angeles, like
a straight line between La City all the way through
Wiltshire and the Librea tar Pits all the way to
Santa Monica and then straight south as well. These are
earthquake faults too. They have oil pools underneath them, but
they also seep oil to the surface, like at the
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Librea tar Pits. So being near and oil and gas
fields means you're also near these seep locations. And people
have done studies that say that the amount of toxic
emissions that you were ingesting walking around Hancock Park today
is about two hundred times more than what you would
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get going to a drilling island where they're actually extracting
oil and gas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So it would be better to extract it from the
ground rather than letting it from underground, rather than let
it seep up to the surface, because that's where all
the emissions are, that's where all the toxic.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Toxic elements are for us to breathe.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, that's been going on four thousands, if not millions
of years in LA.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It's never changed. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So what happens though, when you start producing oil and gas,
as long as you do it responsibil responsibly and with
real regulated approaches, is that you take away the oil
and gas, you depressurize the reservoir. And we know that
when you do that from other studies that the emissions drop,
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the seep emissions go down.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So the more gas and oil you produce from underground.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The seep emissions and the safer LA will be.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, most people probably wouldn't think that would be true,
but it makes sense. If you pump oil and gas out,
that does relieve the pressure and you don't have the
emissions bubbling up into the atmosphere as much.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's true in they've they've done studies in Santa Barbara
and some of these GASIU seats simply disappeared after they
produced oil and gas for a while.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is that right, because the emissions you say they are
one hundred times greater than the leaks the emissions.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Of the natural seats.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The natural seats are now as of twenty twenty five,
one hundred times greater than the leaks from oil and
gas operating equipment. This didn't happen fifty years ago. We've
done a good job of making LA and California production
very clean, but as of now, that's the ratio LA
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is essentially sitting on. Is a very unique place in
the world. There's more oil per square meter in some
parts of LA than any other place in the world.
It's like an oil volcano.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's gonna explode.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean my next question.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, it's seeping up along these faults, okay, and it's
slowly degassing all over the place along these faults, and
those waltz are where the oil fields are. So of course,
if it's degassing, it's toxic chemicals. It can cause health effects.
But it's not The oil production is doing a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Michael Masche and he's the USC professor.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Michael, if we actually started pumping oil and converting it
to gasoline from here in Los Angeles, would that have
a meaningful impact on the supply and the price in
this state?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, it certainly would. John as profector Rector and I
and are co author Joe Silva put together when we
looked at production in Kern County and offshore of Santa Barbara,
it was very meaningful impacted. So if you increase the
production in Kern, and you increase the production offshore, you
would have a very favorable impact on California oil supplies
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and gasoline supplies and in turn a favorable impact on
the prices of those They will come down for the consumer.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So this idea that you're promoting here would sounds like
a great deal for everybody. We'd have less emissions in
the atmosphere if we pumped out the oil rather than
let it bubble to the surface, and it would give
us a significant boost to our oil supply and lower
the gas prices.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What time, Sorry, sorry, I'll let Jam take over from there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, it's even better than that. There's probably over a
billion barrels of oil recoverable oil in the northern part
of La La County. That's a lot of oil. That's
you know, billions of dollars in tax revenues and other things.
But it's not just the oil coming out. It even
may have impacts on things like wildfires, because wildfires sometimes
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in the mountains are perpetuated by these oil and gas
seeps another word, seeping oil and gas. If there are
method there's mething coming out that's flammable and wild players
can actually be enhanced by these seats.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
All right, guys, hang on the line.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
You've just heard Professor James Rector from UC Berkeley and
also talking with USC Professor Michael mcche about the vast
amount of oil below the surface here in Los Angeles County.
The city of Los Angeles wants to ban the drilling again,
even though it may be beneficial to the environment and
to our oil supply into gas prices if we drilled
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for it and extracted it.
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could follow us on social Media at John Cobelt Radio.
At John Cobelt Radio, I'm talking with two professors, Professor
James Rector from UC Berkeley and also Professor Michael Msche
from USC. We've had Profess Mache on a number of
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times over the price of gas. We've had doctor Rector
on before as well. He's an expert in California oil
and gas reservoirs and oil drilling, and this is pretty
simple to understand. We have a huge reservoir of oil
beneath the surface in Los Angeles and it seeps out
I think the Librea tar pits, so you get these
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toxic emissions seeping into the air. We could drill for
the oil, but the city wants to ban oil drilling.
And what Professor Rector and Professor Mache are saying is
if we drilled for the oil and relieve the pressure,
you are going to have less seepage and less emissions
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into the atmosphere and it'll be less unhealthy here. In addition,
as Michael Niche pointed out, you have more oil production,
which we need desperately, and you'll have lower gasoline prices.
So it seems like a good deal. But we got
I guess, Professor Rector. We were dealing with the La
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City Council here.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, the Planning Commission, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Planning Commission. And are those bureaucrats or are those elected officials?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, Now, have you made a presentation to them yet?
I mean, you're aware that they would like to ban drilling. Again,
have you gotten in contact with them to explain how
the science works.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I made a public comment yesterday or maybe it was
a couple of days ago, and that's the only communication
I've had.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
With them, right, because I mean, how how receptive are
are people in government? Usually when people like you and
Michael mcchey go in there and say, look, here's how
it works, and we can show you that things could
be better if we just drill for the oil and
reduce the seepage and reduce the emissions that are leaking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, all I can say is that nobody has contacted
me since my public comment, and maybe they will in
the future.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, Michael miche I know you you've been on the
leading edge of fighting about the oil production issue here
in the state, and you've been you've been attacked by
Governor Newsom's office. But are you making any headway with
any legislators or bureaucrats in your sphere when you talk
about increasing production.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, I think we have and you know we have
SB two thirty seven, which was passed to help increase
production in Karrent County. You know a year ago that
that thing would have never been conceived of, let alone past.
And so we've had, we have, We've made some we've
made some you know, headway. I do think there's been
quite a bit of discussion now beginning in Washington, d C.
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About California oil production and gasoline and it's impact on
national security. As a matter of fact, I think the
President or the Secretary Burgham just released a comment just
a few hours ago on national security issues related to
California oil and gasoline production. So you know, we are
getting some awareness of that, and I would think we're
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going to get some favorable action on the part of
the consumer coming up here in twenty six.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Let me let me ask you something.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mentioned this in the opening about gas prices around
the country, Like we're at an average of four point
forty here in California, it's two ninety four nationally. We
know much of the California problem is the excessive taxes
and regulation. But how the hell can they be selling
gas at ten stations in and Denver at least ten
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stations for between a dollars sixty nine and a dollars
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How can they do that? What that baffles me?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's a dollar less than the average in the rest
of the country.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, it is, and it's a great question to ask.
I mean, if you take a look at the California
gasoline prices, a dollar forty four of that price at
the pump, and by the way, we're fifty percent higher
as you pointed out in the rest nation. But a
dollar forty four of the gasoline prices are taxes and
fees that the state government and the county government imposed
upon the California consumer. And so the largest component of
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that is what's called the state excise tax, and that's
sixty one point two cents a gallon. Now, you know,
to kind of put that in perspective, the person that
owns the gas station or operates it, they're going to
get anywhere from eight to twelve cents a gallon on
that gallon of gas. The state gets sixty one point
two cents a gallon on the same gallon of gas.
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So I think that that helps put that in context.
Our taxes are the highest in the country. In the state,
excise taxes peopled the national average.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It took away all that, it took away all the
taxes in California, we'd get roughly down to the national average.
But what I'm wondering is how do these stations in
Denver get a dollar below the national average.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
How do they do that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, you know, it's going to be the cost of
their product. So they're closer to refiners, they have more options,
they have a higher supply, probably a greater certainty of that.
Colorado does have some oil production in there. They're getting
fed from refiners in the Midwest, so it's really going
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to be the cost of their product that's reflected in that.
Because California has no pipelines coming into the state, and
I know that's incredulous, but it's an absolute fact. There's
no pipelines coming in. We are totally dependent on maritime transportation.
And because our production has fallen, as Jamie has pointed out,
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we now import over sixty five percent of oil from
foreign nations such as Iraq, so our costs are incredibly high.
You marry the high cost of importation with high operating costs.
Our refineries operate somewhere between twenty seven to thirty eight
percent higher cost than any national average for a refinery.
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And then you add into that to state taxes, well
you have high gasoline prices. So it's just the cost
build up is just so much great.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
All right, well, doctor Michael Mache, thank you for coming on,
professor at USC. And James Rector, Doctor Rector, thank you
for coming on as well from UC Berkeley and explaining
this concept. And I hope you have a good fortune
trying to convince bureaucrats and politicians here that would be
beneficial for everyone if we started drilling for the oil
and gas under the ground of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Well hopefully you know.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I'm all about the environment in this argument, and we
need more study, of course, but I think the kind
of common sense dictates that if we really do want
to clean up the environment, we need to get rid
of the oil under all at.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Right, and then get rid of the seepitch. Thank you
very much, both of you. We'll talk again.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, We've got we're coming up.
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Excuse me, all right? You got to hear this? Or
do you have to hear this?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm fascinated by this fraud situation in Minnesota with the Somalis.
It's just stunning that a billion dollars was looted by
these immigrants and the Governor Tim Wattzon his administration. Everybody
was afraid to call them on it because they didn't
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want to be accused of racism. Apparently accusing thieves of
stealing is considered racist in some circles.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I what do.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You say this is? That's so ludical, it's so silly.
And Waltz is now spitting up all over himself. Every
time I see a clip of him trying to explain this,
he just sounds like a bigger and bigger fool because
there's no explanation.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Why don't you just admit it?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You were afraid of activist groups and Somali groups of
calling you racist. You're afraid you were going to lose
their votes, so you allowed it to happen. The whistleblowers
in Minnesota are saying that the Waltz administration was told
over and over and over again what was happening, and
they were the ones who were smacked down.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The whistleblowers. Now, what did the what did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
These fraudsters do with the proceeds. We've got a story
here from CBS News Jonah Kaplan. They got dozens of
files and photos on what the fraudsters spent the money on.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Play cut number one.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
A honeymoon in the Maldives, a fleet of luxury cars.
Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a
Neutrova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how a
group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One text
message reads, you are going to be the richest twenty
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five year old.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
We're not even at the end of the beginning of
our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people
who stole it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
US attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the
wave of COVID era fraud that hit Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So how much.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?
Speaker 7 (20:38):
I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a
billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,
sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American
Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are
accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed
low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to
autistic children.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
This was a get rich scheme.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Andy Lueger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.
He left in January.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
One of the things we discovered is that a number
of the people involved we're buying investment property resort property
in Kenya.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than
one million dollars went to Chinese banks. The Trump administration
has said it's investigating whether any of the money fell
into the hands of terror groups like Al Schabab and Somalia,
but both Luger and Rosen agree the evidence so far
shows the criminals we're only interested in getting rich. So
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there's no evidence that any of these convicted or those
who are charged sent a check and directly gave it
to al Shabab. I think that's a fair characterization. These
are federally funded programs. They happen in every US state.
What happened here in Minnesota that allowed this fraud to
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materialize to metastasize.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
It appears that the people at the highest levels of
responsibility in the government of the state of Minnesota looked
the other way.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
A spokeswoman for Minnesota Governor Tim Watson I tells us
that fighting the fraud, it's his quote top priority and thought,
is something that happens in state's red and blue. Tomorrow,
the governor plans to name a new statewide frauds are
members of the Somali community. Meanwhile, they're warning that they
as a community are being held collectively.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Responsible, so they continue with the racism defense just keeps
going on and on. Waltz should be out of office.
I mean they should be carrying him out of office
and put on a train and set out of the country.
He knew what was going on his whole administration. Did
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you want to hear the stuff they were buying and
this is from the exhibits from the federal trial.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right, this is real. In fact, I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Photos Jonathan Kaplan mentioned. Rather Jonah Kaplan mentioned a box
of cash. I'm looking at the photo of the box
of cash two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. It's actually
fascinating to see what two hundred and seventy thousand dollars
looks like when wrapped in rubber bands, tightly packed. There's
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also a message that says two hundred and seventy thousand
dollars and what else are in the exhibits? A confirmation
email for a stay in a villa over the water
with a private pool at the Radisson Blue Resort in Maldives,
Beautiful resort islands out in the Indian Ocean, lakefront property
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in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They bought lakefront property.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
There's receipts showing wire transfers to China and East Africa.
By the way, the money that went to China is
very difficult to track. When they say there's no evidence
that the money directly went to al Shabab, the terrorist group,
that doesn't mean the money didn't got indirectly to the
terrorist group. That that was the original intention to get
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it there. It's just basic money laundry. Why would it
be rooted through China? And the investigators say, it's really
hard when the money's rooted through China to figure out
where it went. It's like an investigative black hole. An
investigative black hole. Somebody bought a twenty twenty one Porsche
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Macan and first class tickets to Istanbul and Amsterdam. One
of these guys is Abdumajid Mohammed Nur.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And he's twenty four years old.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And the judge in the case said, where others saw
a crisis and rush to help, you saw money and
rush to steal. He's getting ten years in prison. He's
gonna have to pay forty eight million dollars in restitution.
Another guy, abd Aziz Shafi Farah, twenty eight years in prison.
He made six transfers each worth more than a million
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dollars to China. Then what don't tell me this couldn't
ended up in the hands of terrace. Of course it could.
You aren't gonna write a check or a wire transfer
to the leader of al Shabab.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Al Shabab.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In one text, Fara Farah instructed someone to send one
thousand dollars to Mogadishu, Bakara. That is where al Shabab
had a stronghold. It was the site of the Blackhawk
down incident back in nineteen ninety three. Remember that there
was a famous movie. Eighteen American service members were killed.
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Farah opened Empire Cuisine and Market, a Minnesota restaurant that
was connected with a nonprofitating our future. They claimed they
were cooking and giving meals to children and they build
the state for forty seven million dollars. They claimed to
serve eighteen million meals. They never served one meal, not
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one bowl of soup, not one plate of fries, not
one bola macaroni.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
There.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
There is video where Farah.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Is seen popping champagne at a private pool in the Maldives.
Ilhad omar that lunatic, who's now another crazy congresswoman. She's
the one who married a brother to get him into
the country. She went on face the nation and said
(26:47):
that any link between allegations of fraud by members of
the Somali community and terrorism would be a failure of
the FBI. That would be a failure of the FBI
in our court system for not figuring that out not
a not evil by terrorists, and there are accomplices in
(27:07):
the Somali community. It would be the FBI's fault for
not figuring it out. Well, it's hard to figure it
out when Waltz was covering it all up. Can you
believe the depth of this insanity? When we come back,
it looks like there's a similar story in Ohio, and
we've got an attorney a clip of an attorney who's
(27:32):
explaining how bad it is there. It might be even
worse than Minnesota.
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Right, all right? Three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know that the terrible story about the eight Anaheim
eight Anaheim High School students who were hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
It turns out the driver was duy guy still driving.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It turns out that California has a tremendous number of
DUI accidents by people who've already been convicted. But we've
got some of the weakest laws in the country. Isn't
that weird considering what a wacky nanny state we've got
in so many ways, But when it comes to DUI,
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the laws are relatively light and not particularly enforced and
followed up. I found that really strange for all the
stupid things that they obsess on. Maybe it's gouse new
some likesis tequila. I don't know. We'll do that after
three o'clock. All right, we're gonna play a clip here.
We just laid out the case in Minnesota, the fraudsters
(28:59):
that have stolen a billion dollars in taxpayer money Somali,
ring eighty seven people. You've heard about that. Now in
Ohio it's pretty bad too. And here is Fox News
Digital interviewed Meheck Cook, an Ohio attorney who said that
(29:21):
Minnesota is just the tip of the sphere that there's
a massive medicaid fraud going on within the Somali community
in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Listened to about a minute of the Heck Cook.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I mean, there's a lot of fraud and it's cyclical here.
Most of the individuals that have come and talked to me,
Peter are terrified, they have said, and I quote I
will be stoned to death if I show my face
on camera or expose what's happening. I think that Minnesota
was just the tip of the sphere, and as you
(29:53):
continue to see what's happening across the country, I think
logically you should start with a place like Ohio have
the second highest Somalian population. I live in Columbus, Ohio,
so we have between forty and sixty thousand Somalian residents.
We're one of the largest Somali communities in the United States.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And many came here legally.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
There were refugees between the nineteen nineties and two thousands,
and many of them are law abiding. I know the
Somalian community, great people. Many of them are working hard.
The problem today is not the community. It's actually the
criminals within the Somalian community that have exploited Ohio's medicaid program.
(30:35):
Because we have a system right now, it's one of
the easiest in the Midwest to game I was able
to envite.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I'll stop right there. Let me explain. In Ohio, if
you're an individual, you could receive Medicaid payments up to
ninety one thousand dollars a year per person for care
that you're supposed to be giving to a family member,
So I guess there are no family members, and the
(31:02):
quote fake caregiver is getting ninety one grand of tax money.
And then the doctors who approve these payments get kickbacks themselves.
So you fill out a form and say, yeah, I'm
taking care of my dad here, except there is no
dad here, and the doctor says, okay, can I have
(31:22):
some of the ninety one grand? Yeah, sure, let's talk
about it. And the heck cook says they're just rubber
stamping a lot of these. The same individual then a
week later that is supposed to be bedridden is now
all over social media, out dancing at a party or
something like that. So she said the symptoms aren't really
(31:45):
adding up at the end of the day. And she
makes it sound as if there's more in Ohio adjusted
for the population. Then there is Minnesota that would be
three D. Because we had a report from News Nation
last week about Maine and the Somali community there, and
(32:06):
Tim Waltz today said, well, you've got fraud and all
kinds of communities.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well there shouldn't be, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You should be able to stop all the fraud and
the difference is apparently maybe if it were, if it
wasn't so Molly's, you would be stopping the fraud. But
you let them get away with it because you're woke,
because you don't want to be called racist, and because
you want their votes.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He is a clown. He might be worse than Newsome,
all right?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Coming up next, eight high school kids in Anaheim on
the running team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
They got hit by a.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
A a guy and this guy has a DUI passed.
And it turns out in California, for all their netty
state of essiens, drunk drivers aren't one of them. Surprisingly
lenient laws and no follow up. We'll tell you about it.
Coming up. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt
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