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December 26, 2025 34 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (12/26) - Best Of The John Kobylt Show. Republican gubernatorial candidate Steven Hilton comes on the show to talk about a fraud tip line he has created for California in light of all of the fraud being uncovered in Minnesota. Update on the Cheviot Hills mental health facility scandal. What has worse consequences in California, speeding or vehicular manslaughter?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Coblt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We are on every day from one until four o'clock.
After four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand, it's the
podcast and you can listen to what you missed that's
also on the iHeart app. California leads as the most
unaffordable state in the nation, no contest. Highest housing costs,

(00:27):
highest rental costs if you want to rent an apartment,
highest gas prices, highest electricity prices, highest food prices, highest inflation,
and yet Newsome with the hottest issue in the country
being affordability. He's running for president with that record. And
that's only, you know, a tiny fraction of all the

(00:49):
things that we're either in last placed in or first
place in.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And it's all bad stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
And along those lines, we have the we spend more
money than any other state in the nation. We have
the biggest budget deficit, we have the highest taxes, highest
income tax, I, SED gas tax, ICE sales tax. And
there's all these programs where tens of billions of dollars

(01:14):
have disappeared. I've told you, seventy billion dollars has disappeared
in well, a total of seventy billion dollars has disappeared.
If you just add up the unemployment money that we
sent out during the pandemic, and then you add the
high speed rail money, and then you add the homeless
money that knew some lost track of, comes up to

(01:35):
about seventy billion dollars. And that's just you know, you
try to give people three examples, right, there's plenty of
other stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
We're going to talk to Steve Hilton because.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
We learned about all the fraud going on in Minnesota
with the Governor Tim Waltz and the Somali community there.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Then Maine yesterday checked in.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
We had a story about the fraud there with the
Somali community here, tremendous amount of fraud and Steve Hilton,
who's a Republican running for governor, he wants to set
up some kind of way for whistleblowers to start talking
and to do a massive audit of the whole mess
in the Sacramento Steve Hilton, how are you welcome?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Great to be with you, John, You laid it out perfectly.
I can add another few billion to your total. Remember
the thirteen billion that Newsom is spending this year and
this budget year on free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Now
he's open about that, But that's fraud because that's not
supposed to be happening at all, and we all know
where that's going to end up. Look at the report

(02:37):
that came out yesterday the day before about massive, massive
fraud in the medicaid system nationally. This is medicaid money,
remember that we're talking about it, called it medical. In California,
there was a this is from within the federal government itself,
from within medical They did a kind of test of

(02:58):
their own systems and they found that forty percent of
the claims were fraudulent of the insurance that had been
set up percent people in what they's that was just published,
it was a sample. If you just think that's what
and you know that all of these things are going

(03:19):
to be so much worse in California because we've had
fifteen years now, one party rule, no accountability, no competence
in the government, far left ideological extremism in the government
that is that has this attitude that the taxpayers are
just going to be milked. We're going to squeeze them dry,
take the money, grow our big bloated government hand out

(03:42):
the money to our favored constituencies in exchange for their
votes and their support. I mean, that's the way it
goes in these and it's it's been longer going on
like that in California than anywhere else. In Minnesota, you
had one party rule just for three years. Here we've
had it for fifteen. And the point about the whistleblows
is this, what was so interesting about the Minnesota story,

(04:03):
and more details are coming out all the time, is
to actually, all along, you had brave, honest date workers
and civil servants trying to alert people to this. There
was a letter signed by four hundred and eighty Minnesota
civil servants saying, we've been telling you about this for years.
The fake autism diagnoses for kids that was just a

(04:23):
disgusting way of ripping off the taxpayer, the fake feeding
programs that never happened, and the nonprofits that made off
like bandits with all of this money, including sending many
much of it overseas. We had people blowing the whistelant
trying to blow the whistle for years, and Tim Walls
and the Democrat machine in Minnesota silenced them, intimidated them.

(04:46):
Tried to shut them up. And so my response to
that is, let's get the stories out here, out there,
now here in California. So we set up an anonymous
tip line. Very simple. You just go to the website,
callifraud dot com and tell us the stories they're flooding in. Honestly,
we're getting it. It's very simple and not you just
fill out the form. We get it. It's anonymous. And

(05:07):
then when I'm governor, we're going to start to have
the information so we can stop this absolute disgusting ripoff
of taxpayers which has been going on for so long.
Now root out the corruption and the fraud. But we
need the information, and that's why I set up caliphraud
dot com. We're also promoting it. We have the spending
my campaign money on this. We put it out. We

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put ads in Capital Journal, where you got a lot
of you know, people in Sacramento working in these government agencies.
They read that it's on that website Capital Journal. We've
got an ad saying, tell us what's going on. We
need to know the information because you can be certain
that so much of it is wayed. So's just one
other little thing just to throw into the mix. That
insane story about the phone line. Did you cover this,

(05:50):
the high speed phone line to go with a high
speed rail. So this is Gavin Newsome in his first budget.
By the way, on high speed rail, he can say, well,
that wasn't all me, that was you know, Jerry Brown.
And it's been going on for years. This one is
all him. In his first budget twenty nineteen. After he's
elected in twenty eighteen, Newsom says, we've got a totally
antiquated system for emergency response phone calls. It's terrible, puts

(06:15):
lives that is, I'm going to modernize it. We're going
to have this new system. So here we are nearly
seven years later. They spent half a billion dollars on
this new phone line for emergency response, and they just
announced last week they're going to scrap it because it
doesn't work. And this is the guy that wants to
be president of the United States. He can't even produce
a functioning phone line for half a billion dollars in

(06:37):
seven years. It's just a total joke.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's difficult to believe that all this is going on.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, we did talk about the nine one one a
service and it's seven seven years and when they try,
nothing worked.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They went they had.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Twenty three stage, they had like four hundred and fifty
different nine one one call centers. They they twenty three
of them they tested out. They were zero for twenty three.
Every single one of them didn't function. How do you
do that by accident? You figure something would have connected properly.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's the point, and going back to how you started
the conversation, it actually takes a level of genius to
mess things up on this scale where we are literally
the worst performing states of all fifty states on pretty
much everything that matters. Highest taxes, highest costs for gas,
electric water, all the things you lifted, highest poverty rate,

(07:35):
highest unemployment rate, worst business climate. It's just insane that
they're able to be so bad on so many things
all at the same time.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
They've never been punished. They never lose elections, they never
lose seen us.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm telling you, you go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well that's what's going to change next year. We're going
to kick these people out. They've never faced a candidate
like me before who've got the business experience, government reform experience,
national media experience. I know my staff. I've been working
on the policy for many many years now. I know
this stuff. They don't. I just did a debate with
some of the Democrat candidates last Friday and San Jose.

(08:15):
They just sbout talking points. They really don't know what
they're talking about. I'm going to tear these people apart
next year, and I'm really excited about it. We're going
to kick them out because you can't go on like this.
It is just too much to take for regular working
people who getting screwed. The rich get richer, their friends
and cronies get richer all the time, their special interests
in the unions, and all the activists and Sacramento making

(08:38):
out all this money, the homeless industrial complex, the nonpro
all this kind of scam that's been going on for
so many years, and regular working people are just thick
of it, thick of it. And we're going to rise
up next year and kick them out.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh guy, I really hope. So can you hang on
for another segment?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yes? Please?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm also if you could think about it.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Tell me how when we come back, how this califraud
what's the name of the website again?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I want to get it right.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Callifraud dot com.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Tellifraud dot com.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
What's going to happen when people contact you with these
stories of fraud and they act as whistleblowers about what's
happening in government. We'll talk more with Steve Hilton when
we come back.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Forty files and social media at John Cobelt Radio. We
continue with Steve Hilton. One of the top candidates running
for governor is a Republican. He's a former Fox News host,
former advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron, an
entrepreneur and a businessman, a very successful guy in many
different fields, and you hear him talk and he makes

(09:47):
perfect sense on what needs to be done here in California.
And so now he's got something to take on all
the California fraud which we must be swimming in.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know, we've seeing what's going on in.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Isolated cases in Minnesota and in Maine and in California. Well,
I went through all the list of obvious frauds with
tens of billions of dollars missing, much of it's sent
out of the country.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So if you go to califraud dot.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Com, you are going to come across Hilton's website where
you scroll down and you'll see a white box and
you submit your story. Your identity will be protected unless
you choose to go public, and you describe if you
have direct knowledge of fraud, waste, or abuse specific incidents
or practices inside any state agency. Just write it in

(10:37):
the white box and submit it. Steve Hilton will continue
talking to him. Now, Steve, Steve, So, after somebody types
in their their fraud story on your whistleblower site, then
what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
What are you going to be able to do?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, so we're collecting the stories people are writing in. Look,
it's very simple. Remember we're a campaign, we're a startop.
This is like one of the startups done in my career,
and I hate wasting money and so it's very simple
and basic. I said to my team, I want I
want something incredibly easy to use but incredibly cheap to make,
and so that's what we've got. It's very basic. But

(11:12):
what we're doing is storing up the stories. Now, some
of them I'm not going to name names obviously because
it's an anonymous but we're getting stories of a lot
of local government fraud and stories that people are really
thick of what's going on around them. At the county level,
the community collegists. There's a lot coming in on community
colleges and the money that's being siphoned off in the

(11:34):
name of fake enrollies in community colleges. So there's all
these different stories coming up. Here's the plan. We're going
to collect that. Look as the months go by, we're
going to look at them. My team's going to look
at them, and we're going to see, you know, is
there a pattern here? Are there things that we should
be highlighting right now to blow the whistle in a
general way, not using the individual names or stories less

(11:57):
people want to be public, but you know, points that
we can make right now, have a look at this
what's going on there. And often actually the right response
will be for me to work with an alert my
friends in the federal Administration, the Federal cument. Remember, you know,
I've got lots of good friendships and relationships there from
you know, the President on down Frankly and I know

(12:19):
you know obviously Brook Rollins and Sean Duffy and Pete
Hegsas and there's so many you know, Doug Bergen, the
Interior sextually there's lots of opportunity to take this to
Harmy Dillon is a good friend, of course, the Justice
Department doing such great work hounding California for the ways
in which it's breaking the law. And you've got Bill A. Sale,

(12:40):
the US attorney who's been fantastic friend of mine, who's
been fantastic in pushing on the fraud and theft of
our money, especially in Los Angeles on the Homeless Industrial comt.
We've had lots of ways we can get it. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Ah, We've had Bill saleyon, We've had Harmy dillar on
a lot. I mean, I'd love to help big part
of this where if you know, your organization can get
the whistleblower stories and you could start getting investigated by
Bill A. Saley or Harmy Dillon or anybody in in
the administration. I can publicize all this so that people

(13:15):
understand as we get into the campaign year, just how
deep the rot is, just how bad.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, it's the follow one I want to and I
want to make this point, which is, so that's what
we can do right now before I'm in office. Once
I'm in office, then we really get going. And there's
another aspect of this, it's very important, which is the
there's an office. There's a statewide office which is super
relevant to this. It's called the State Controller. And the

(13:44):
State Controller has the power to audit any entity in
receipt of any state money. It's an incredibly powerful position,
and they can stop payments. The Controller can stop money
going to any entity for any rea, so this is
really powerful. There's a guy running for State Control called
Herb Morgan. He's down from San Diego. He's a very

(14:07):
successful business guy himself worked in finance. He's exactly the
kind of person you want in this job. We are
working together. In fact, Herb and I made this announcement
of all of this together last at the beginning of
last week, so he's going to be right there with
me looking at all these as we go along. But
most importantly, if you elect me to governor and you

(14:28):
elect Herb to State Controller, you're going to have a
team that's super focused on actually rooting out all this
and protecting tax papers, because that's in the end, what
this is all about.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And you guys will follow up after the audit, because
there have been a number of audits, like I think
there's been three major audits of high speed rail and
in the end they go, you know what, there's no paperwork,
there are no records, so the money just evaporated.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
We don't know where it went. And then there's no
follow up. That's it. That's the end of the investigation.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But also you've got because you've got the people in
charge have the wrong attitude. This is what you get
from the left. They so cavalier and casual about other
people's money. Yeah, put up the taxes, will hand it out.
They don't treat it as if they it's their money,
and they treat it as if it's their money, not
our money that is being forcibly extracted from us through taxes,

(15:19):
and we expect something in return. But you've got a
situation now in California where they take more and more
and we get less and less, and they just don't care.
And this is what you get from the left. They
have this ideological obsession with growing their power and the government.
They think government can solve all the problems, even in
the face of the evidence that they do the opposite.

(15:39):
They create more problems than they solve. They still keep
taking our money. Now, the difference is when we're there
and You've got people in office who actually have started businesses,
employed people understand how hard that is, Understand how disgusting
it is to take money from hard working taxpayers and
small businesses to fund their ridiculous argument schemes that actually

(16:02):
make things worse. It's a completely different attitude we're going
to have.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I think I think.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's even worse than their their attitude that they can
solve all the problems. They don't even try to solve
the problems anymore because they're right exactly, they're just taking
the money. They're just stealing the money. There's so many
hundreds of nonprofits now connected to the government that are
getting so many billions of dollars in grants, and then
they're employing all the friends and relatives of the politicians,

(16:30):
and I'm sure there's kickbacks flowing back and forth. It's
a monster, is what it is. That they're not interested
now make anybody.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Exactly and that's there was exactly. It's a job creation scheme.
It's a crony rewards scheme. I mean, you look at
there's a very revealing moment in the general election campaign
last year, presidential rate Kamala Harris, she visited some you know,
it was some business as a black owned business and whatever,
and there's a little extract to the conversation on the

(17:01):
on cameras. It's a campaign stop and she asked this person, Oh,
how are you doing for this business and how's it going.
And this person replied, Oh, it's great. We've done really well.
We're getting tons of loads of grants, grants from the government.
Like that's not what business is. That's not how it's
supposed to work. What are you talking about, Like, that's

(17:23):
the first thing you say, Oh, yeah, we done really
well getting money from the government. Excuse me, it's just unbelievable.
But that's how these people think.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, no product, no service.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
You just look at your bank account and you see, oh,
look at that, some grant money's been deposited from the
state of California. That's the whole business, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's amazing. Now it's just insane. But this is here's
the good news. To leave people with the good news.
It's gone too far. We're going to turn it around.
We're going to kick them out and save California. That's
twenty twenty six. It's going to be a very happy
new year.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You work in government at any level.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Califraud dot com is your friend C A L I,
F R A U D. It's a very simple website
to scroll down a bit and it explains what they're doing.
And you see a white box and just type in
your story. You'll be granted complete anonymity unless you want
to go public and tell your stories, and Steve's a
team will take it from there.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thank you very much for coming on. I really enjoy
talking with you. I hope you can come in studio
sometime soon and we.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Can talk even longer. Exactly all right, Thank you man,
Thank you for to Steve Christmas.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Merry Christmas is running for governor on the Republican side,
one of the top candidates and.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
A businessman.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
He's a great communicator, having hosted a show on Fox
for six years.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
He's got government experience.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
He was a top advisor to the British Prime Minister
David Cameron some years ago. We will when we come
back right in line with what he's talking about. How
about the scandal in Chevy at Hills. We've talked about
this several times to developers managed to uh well, one

(19:03):
of them has been indicted, the other one has left
his job. It's a it's a property that was purchased
by one developer for eleven million dollars under fraudulent terms,
and then the second entity bought the same property ten
days later for twenty seven million dollars sixteen million dollar

(19:24):
appreciation in ten days. Where did that extra sixteen million go?
I'm going to talk all about it coming up.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Forty ron every day one until four after four o'clock
John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. Well,
this story has been bubbling for some weeks. Now follow
the details here because this is the epitome of all
the corruption and all the theft of your attacks money.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean, this is a fantastic example.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
There is a property in Chevyott Hill and a man
named Stephen Taylor.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
From Brentwood.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
He used fraudulent documents to get an eleven million dollar
loan to buy a housing project in chevy At Hills.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Targeted for homeless housing.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Now, chevy At Hills is a very nice, upscale community
and there's nobody in that town, in that neighborhood that
wants this project for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Right, nobody wants.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I don't know how many homeless people suddenly moving into
this thing, but ye, Steven, I got to stay up front.
There are so many people walking amongst us, business guys,
government people who they get up in the morning and
their job each day is to steal our tax money.

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And it's it's not like they're fooling anybody in government.
The people in government are part of the fraud. They're
both in on it. And there's all these relationships, there's
all this this this invisible apparatus where people like Steven
Taylor and other others access money. And you'll see there's

(21:20):
some public tax money, a lot of public tax money
that's going to be involved. So just hang on for
a minute, all right. So Stephen Taylor buys this property
in Chevy At Hills for eleven million dollars. He then
takes the property and that eleven million was a fraudulent
loan that he pulled off. He takes the property and

(21:43):
flips it to something called the Wineguard Center. It's a
homeless services nonprofit. Oh, homeless services nonprofit. Wineguard paid twenty
seven million dollar ten days after Taylor spent eleven million

(22:05):
to buy it. In ten days, the property appreciated from
eleven to twenty seven million dollars. Now, Taylor's eleven million dollars,
as I said, was a fraudulent loan. The twenty seven
million dollars was tax money, public money that Wineguard got

(22:27):
to finance the purchase and conversion of the building into
a homeless housing project.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Now, who was.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
The middleman in this or the middle woman? Karen Bass?
She pushed for this project. Who ran Wineguard Center? A
guy named Kevin Murray. Kevin Murray used to be a
state senator, uh oh, a state senator. Now he's running
the Wineguard Center. He also was appointed by Bass to

(23:04):
be on the board of the La County Affordable Housing
Solutions Agency. The La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency. I
had never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
What is that? Well, Kevin Murray was on the board.
Bass appointed him.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Bass also pushed for Murray's company to buy the Chevy
and Hills property from Steven Taylor. That Taylor's been busted
by the Feds over the eleven million dollar fraudule that
loan that he got. But now you got the twenty
seven million dollars in public money. Where'd that go?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean presumably they paid it to Taylor.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
An extra sixteen million dollars they paid to Taylor? Well,
where did that extra sixteen million go? Could both sides
have split the money? Was there a third party involved?
Was there somebody in back his office that got a cut.
That's a lot of money and they did this in

(24:07):
ten days?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
The uh, what's that? Current?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
First uncovered this deal and the thing gets sold twice
in two weeks for one price more ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Than the last.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
The Los Angeles County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency, Kevin Murray
was on the board.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
He now resigns.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
What did that agency do? They spent measure A sales
tax revenue on affordable housing?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So he's running He's on the board of an agency
that spends the tax money meant for homeless housing. You
voted for an increase in measure A funding just last
nov told you not to people did. And now we're
finding out that the guy running the agency paid took

(25:13):
twenty seven million dollars in tax money and paid the
first guy who bought it for eleven million ten days earlier.
I'm sure Steven Taylor wasn't keeping the whole twenty seven million.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why would Kevin Murray spend.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
The twenty seven million again, where did that money recirculate to?
Last week, a Bass representative told the staff at the
La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency that Murray resigned November
twenty ninth. Of course, Murray is not commenting. Karen Bass

(25:51):
in her office not commenting. Murray has been placed on
leave by the Wineguard Center. A second executive, Ben Rosen,
the director of real estate development.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
He's been placed on leave while.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
The nonprofit conducts an internal review into its housing projects.
Right because nobody knew what was going on. So Rosen
and Murray blowed twenty seven million dollars on an eleven
million dollar property and it was fine by everybody at
the Line Guard Center until this story hit the media.
It's like, wow, we're gonna put them on leave and
do an investigation. And this is just outrageous. This place

(26:32):
used to be a nursing home now. People in a
nursing home are usually very docile, they don't really cause problems.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
But homeless housing, oh, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Murray is claiming that he has no prior relationship with
Steven Taylor, no continuing relationship, and get this claim from
Kevin Murray, taxpayers paid fair market value for the property.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
The fair market value was eleven million, ten million.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Ten days later it's twenty seven million, and Kevin Murray says,
well that's fair. This is what we've got and Bass
was the broker on the deal. Keep voting the way
you're voting. Okay, We've got more coming up on The
John Cobelt Show.

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(27:53):
slash at John Cobelt Show. All Right, what it's worse
in California? Speeding ticket or you run over someone with
your car and kill them. Well, in some cases, the
speeding ticket is worse. You could speed, no accident, no casualties,

(28:16):
You're just caught going too fast. In the other case,
you do something and you kill another motorist, a pedestrian,
a bicyclist, and you've done something wrong and they charge
you with a misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter, which can be either
a felony or a misdemeanor. So you're guilty of the

(28:39):
vehicular manslaughter, but you will get less well, you'll get
nothing on your public record potentially. Let me explain cow Matters,
which is another good news website on California. Since most
of the regular media has abandoned coverage, including just about
all the media here in Los Angeles, cal Matters has

(29:03):
found that there's something called a misdemeanor diversion program. This
was passing twenty twenty by the legislature, So a judge
can erase a misdemeanor case from existence what they call
low level crimes, so you don't have a stigma. Because
having a stigma, you have a conviction on your record. Well,

(29:26):
sometimes you can't get work, Sometimes you can't get an
apartment because nobody wants a criminal in the workplace. Nobody
wants to rent to a criminal, can't trust them. So
they extended this so that you could kill somebody while driving,
go to a diversion program and you have that vehicular

(29:48):
manslaughter charge. Wiped off the books as if it ever
happened again. You've actually killed someone. Here's an example. Alison Lyman,
she had a son named Connor twenty three. He's riding
his motorcycle. An oncoming car made a left turn, collided
with him, and Connor Lopez, a piano teacher, died in

(30:12):
the roadway. Very sad story. The DA's office charged the driver,
Harjeet's Cower, with misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter because she did not
yield to oncoming traffic and that caused the fatal crash,
killing Connor. And then a prosecutor broke the news to

(30:35):
Alison Lyman, the mun the mother, the case could be
wiped off car's record and sealed if Kaur asks for
a diversion program and a judge grants it. And Lyman said,
I'm forty three. I'll have to live the rest of
my life without my son, but there'll be no record
of it for her. One of the officers kept telling

(30:59):
her that it's a low level case, and Lyman said,
she took my son's life. But that's how they're seeing
low level again. It wasn't declared an accident. She was
at fault and charged with vehicular manslaughter and then it
gets wiped away. You know, you have to do community service.
That kind of nonsense. In twenty twenty, the far left

(31:24):
wing let all the criminals, Let all the criminals free.
State legislature created diversion for almost all misdemeanors, with few
requirements that defendants have to fulfill even if the prosecutor objects.
So defense attorneys are requesting diversion.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
That's how shoplifting and drug possession got legalized, and now
it extends to cases where somebody's died. In fact, how
matters I He hadifi three dozen drivers who avoided a
vehicular manslaughter conviction by going conviction by going to a

(32:08):
diversion program. So suddenly those three vehicular those excuse me,
those thirty six vehicular deaths weren't crimes anymore. It's as
if they never happened. I'm the people are still dead,
the victims, but none of the thirty six drivers are
at fault. You could get a misdemeanor charge if you

(32:34):
weren't drunk or driving extremely dangerous.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
However, if you.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Get a traffic tickets, the traffic ticket stays on your record. Uh,
there was a young man in Los Angeles who fell
asleep at the wheel and ran over a bicyclist. He
got a red light ticket. A few months after the
judge granted diversion, and then he got a speeding ticket. Oh,

(33:09):
the speeding ticket, the red light ticket or on his record.
But the incident where he fell asleep and ran a
bicyclist over and killed.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Him, not on the record.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Here's a story about a driver involved in a fatal
twenty twenty crash. He got two tickets last year, then
a drudge grant some diversion, and he.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Got a speeding ticket.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, all those tickets, they're permanently on the record, not
the accident where he killed somebody.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I read the other day too that California has some
of the weakest DUI law, and I think we talked
about it on the air, some of the weakest DUI laws.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
In the country.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
And it's just startling because this is such an oppressive
nanny state. And yet when it comes to drunk driving,
when it comes to killing somebody, because you drove so
badly not so much, you don't go to jail and
your record is wiped clean. More coming up, now, here's

(34:24):
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