Hour 1 | Tim Had A 1978 Moment @ConwayShow

Alex Stone on Booking.com says it has seen a 900% increase in travel scams. Mainly its because of AI now able to make extremely real looking emails that lead victims to click on an email link and then pay scammers money that isn’t actually booking a trip. // Tim’s 1978 moment...with his daughter at Thorson Buick reminded him of buying cars with his dad. // Jay Leno on buying cars with his dad // Shark attack kills world-renown surfer  

Episode Transcript

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It's k IF. I am sixforty and you're listening to The Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.It is the Conway Show and probably get
in some trouble for this, butI'm dedicating this show to micro Ravy.
I what a beautiful, young,talented, very funny woman. And I

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don't know what happened, but she'sproperly raised in Pittsburgh. I love that
woman, very very funny woman.And I don't know what happened, but
I will miss Ravey micro Ravy.Different vibe today, Belly. We should
bring in those executives my Heart Mediaand find out what happened there? Where
are they in Burbank? Bring thosepeople in the here doing okay? All

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right? Oh you know? Ohno, I can't do any more of
these Boeing stories with Alex Stone.Is he he booked? Oh no,
no, no no no. Look. I don't know if you know this,
but when people trash bowing, theykill them. I don't want to
be killed. Let's bring them upand say see if you can talk about
something else. Alex. I'm donewith the Boeing story. You too.

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Have you got anything on like bookingdot com or travel or anything. Yeah,
yeah, well that oh good.Yeah, let's talk AI and how
now AI is trying to help criminalstake all your money. That this is
the new warning out there right now. So Booking dot Com they say that
they've seen a nine hundred percent increasein travel scams recently. And it goes

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back to AI that it's easier forall of us to use chat, GPT
to have a do stuff for you, and criminals are figuring that out as
well. And a lot of thesetim go back to I mean they've been
around forever, but phishing emails,except they're getting better at them now because
of AI. That where used tolook at them and go, hmm,
dear sir, ma'am or madam,that doesn't make any sense and you read

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it and there'd be like spelling errorsin it and go, I know,
Marriott did not misspell that word,or the loco would be a little bit
off. But they're they're better now. You really can't a lot of these
you cannot tell that they are fakes. And it may come from United or
Southwestern Deltare Marriott or Hilton and itlooks like the real deal or Booking dot
Com or Expedia and you click onthe link and you think it's taking you

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to that deal. It looks likeit is. It looks like the real
website, and you put in yourinfo and your credit card info and poof
money's gone and you don't have areservation, which you find out when you
get there and check in and it'snot there. So they say they're seeing
a lot more of it. Alot of it is linked back to AI,
not only in that way, butalso fake reviews, online, fake
listings, fake photos. This isAmy Kolsky. She fell victim to an

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AI related to scam, kind oftravel related. Yeah, I was very
disappointed, But the thing was isthat I felt for it because of the
reviews. There were glowing reviews,and they were all fake reviews generated by
AI. What she did is shewas going on a trip. She ordered
a travel guide that it turned outto be all fake and it actually the
whole guide was written by AI andit came and it was a real general

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didn't make any sense about Paris.But now she's gotten into all kinds of
travel scams that are out there andthey're they're everywhere right now. And she
goes, look, you're going ona cruise you're going on a European trip,
that there's one thing you want todo. You really shop for and
look for the legit product, thelegit product, and that means, I
mean, that's the same thing we'vealways talked about. You go to the

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top of the bar, make sureyou put in the actual addresses that you're
going to. But the other thingis, you know, like I say,
you show up and there's no reservationthere that she and these websites say
they're seeing a lot more fake hotellistings that are on these third party sites.
So you got to kind of crossreference here and go, Okay,
I see this one in Europe.Let's go to Google and see if it
really exists? Is it on GoogleMaps? And Booking dot Com says that

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they're trying to remove fake hotels thatscam people, and the ones with fake
AI photos and all that. Butthey say, you got to do your
due diligence. But a lot ofpeople are getting scammed. Right, But
Alex doesn't this benefit the hotels becausehotels forever have tried to get you to
use their website, not a secondarywebsite. Yeah, now you know when
you go to book a Hilton,if you book it through Hilton then,

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and then I think they benefit becauseHilton makes more money if you book it
through a secondary site, then theygot to pay them of it. Yeah
exactly, But I mean this morningis coming from not one of these hotel
websites, the actual hotels. Butyeah, you're right. I mean to
have you go directly to Marriott orto Hilton, they're Hyatt. They're not
paying a cut to the travel agentof Times gone By typically, but to

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a travel agent or to a thirdparty website. So sure that's why they
say come here, it'll be thelowest price, right And doesn't this make
you feel like a low ball?Like a zero? When you call an
airline and the airline said, youknow, hey, it's American Airlines.
Please stand please hold on. We'llget you right away, unless you've booked
with a secondary agent, and thenthat case call them. We don't even

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want to deal with it. Yeah, but even if you did book with
us, please hold for the nextfour hours. Oh, I was on.
I got I had to call anairline and I don't want to say
which one is. I don't wantto get in that mess. But they
said you can hold on or wecan call you back, and I'm like,
I always pressed they call me backbutton. And this is at two
o'clock and they said, we're goingto call you back at seven thirty.

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Oh my goodness, hopefully. Yeah. You know you're at the airport waiting
to make a change and you needthem to call you back. Yeah.
Look, I think everybody needs moreemployees. Del Taco is running on fumes.
They got two guys there, ora guy and a gal, or
two girls, two guys, whatever, but they got two people working at
Del Taco. They got the guymaking the food and the guy working the

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window and the register. That's it. They used to have eight people back
there. Well, you think talkingabout AI, that some of the fast
food changes are now beginning to playaround with AI on the loud speaker.
So nobody is on the loud speaker. It's a voice saying, you know,
welcome to fill in the blank fastfood restaurant. And it's listening to
what you say and then reading itinto the computer, and it's doing all

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the work. That's not even ahuman. I was walking on the streets
of our Katia last night, notthe you know, best moment in my
life, and I walked by theCadillac land Rover a lot. Now.
I was on the sidewalk and Ihear over a loud speaker, you're on
our property. Leave now, we'revideotaping you. And I and I and
I stopped and I looked around andI see the video camera and it said

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it again. Leave now you're beingvideotaped and we're taping you. And I
started yelling at the speaker. Fyou on the side of the walk car.
I wouldn't even buy these things fromyou. I'm yelling at speaker like
a lunatic. Lunatic, But youknow, I was listening to rich on
Tech. He's on the weekend showhere. He's terrific. You know,

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he got scammed on one of thesethings. Really yeah, where you know
where he got you know, hewent to sign up for he was using
his dad's printer over the weekend andhe had to download the app and then
the app was asking for information thatit didn't need. And it turns out
that was a scam. So ifif rich on Tech and gets scammed,
everyone, and you know, theolder folks get it more than anybody because

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they may not be as tech savvywith some of this stuff. That.
You know, we may say,no, that's not real, don't don't
click on that. But some ofthis stuff looks so real now, and
you know you think, ooh,ninety nine bucks to Hawaii. I click
on that deal right there, andit looks like it's from United or Last
Airlines. And then you're taking toa third party to a criminal's website and

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it still says you know, Uniteddot Com at the top in the address
bar, and it's all spoofed.I get it, buddy, buddy,
you really appreciate you coming on withus. You got it, and we'll
speak to you throughout the summer later. All right, see it? All
right there, he goes Alex Stowewith ABC News. That guy's great.
Guys always has the information every timeit comes on. Quick sound bites,
lots of information. And so I'mlooking for all you other reporters out there.

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That's what we're looking for. Quicksound bites, information gone, quick
sound bites, information gone. Learnedfrom Alex all right or Alex Alex is
good too, Alex and Alex Alexand Alex Alex, Alex, Alex Alex
both great and I Steve Gregory isgood too. I like Steve Gregory.

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There is something to be said forbeing succinct. Yes, Steve Gregory,
Alex Stone, Alex Michaelson, frugalityof words, that's correct. So I
also like Mark Brown. So MarkBrown, Alex Stone. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFIAM six forty. I went to a

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terrific car dealership over the weekend.I know that Thorson, GMC and Bwick
and Manda, they got beautiful cars. And I had a nineteen seventy eight
moment over the weekend. And youdon't rarely get those, you know you

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don't, You're very rare. Ishould say, get moments where you can
relive a very important time in yourlife, where it seems like you've gone
back in time. And I hadit over the weekend because my dad used
to be friends with a guy namedTerry York who had a bunch of dealerships

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in the valley in the late sixties, early seventies, late seventies, early
eighties. A terrific guy, oneof the most generous men in the valley.
He came from Mime I think it'sfrom Milanois and came out with his
kid, started these car dealerships,and that's where my mom and dad would
buy cars all the time. Andmy dad knew Terry York with this big

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cowboy hat and bigger than life kindof guy. And it was right there
on Havenhurst and Ventura. And soyesterday I go to Thorsten gmc buick in
is it Arcadia? I think it'san Arcadia. It was Pasadena, Pasadena,
Okay, it's on the All Iknow is it's on the way to

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San Anita. That's all I know. I'm Colorado there and and well with
my daughter. My daughter said shewould go with me, which I found
cool. And I you know too, because whenever I get in the car
with my with my daughter for likea twenty minute ride, I'm pepperinger.
I'm peppringer. Now the friends,what's going on? What's happening? She's

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I mean, she's sweating by thetime I'm done with her, right,
She's like, God almighty, seemslike a four day trip with you,
Dad. I'm I got questions.I got questions. I'm hitting her heart.
And so we get to the dealership. My daughter sits there minding her
own business, beautifully behaved like Ibrought her up, and I had a

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throwback to when I used to goto look for a car with my dad.
I'd sit there like a gentleman becauseI never wanted to embarrass my dad
over anything. Didn't want to dothat. And I'd sit there no matter
how many hours it would take tobuy a car and do the paperwork,
I'd sit there with my dad buyingit when he bought a car. I
used to love that. I usedto love going to buy a car with
my dad, Arby's and a tacoplace. What was at the know,

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there's another taco place in the valley. I used to and build as imporium.
I was a builders imporium, Arby'sguy, and I'm buying a car.
That's what I'd love to go withmy dad doing all three of those
things. And so I sat thereand I had a moment there where my
daughter was sitting there in this dealershipand I could see GMC in the background
buick in the background, and man, I felt like I was in nineteen

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seventy eight. And I can't tellyou what that meant to me, to
be able to go back and relivea moment that I had with my dad
and now I'm having with my daughter, and I didn't get emotional, but
man, I fought it. Ifought it. I fought it sitting there
next to her talking to Jonathan,who is a trific sales guy out there.

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And the first time I went toThorsen Dealership, I went there kind
of late. They were just aboutto close. I went after work and
I walked on the lot and theguy says, hey, can I help
you? And I said, I'mjust looking around. And you know what
he says to me, He said, buddy, the lot's yours. Take
your time, look around. Ifyou got any questions, I'll be inside.
Oh. And I'm like, goldmine, gold mine, touchdown that

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these guys let you walk around andlook at those cars on your own,
and then when you got a question, you go ask them. And and
I thought, man, there's noother dealership i've been to that does that.
That's great. And so we're goingback and forth. But I want
to buy a Buick. The Buickshave My dad bought a Buick, my
mom bought a Buick. My grandparentshad Buicks. We have a long history.

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And they've come out with a newline, the Invista, which is
a beautiful small little car, andwe're just trying to figure out what color
and what kind and all that stuff. But I was talking to Steve Gregory
turned me on to the owner,a guy named Tommy or Tom I should

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say. I call him Tommy becauseeverybody you know my life who's a tom
is also a Tommy. And ITom Georgia. And I was talking to
him on Saturday, my second orthird time I was going to a Thorsen,
and man, I felt like likeI had a brother in the car
business, a normal guy, youknow, uh, not a you know,

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crazy shark sales guy. And he'sgot a he's got a motor home
and he's going on I don't know, some kind of vacation. And then
I'm done talking to him and Ipick up the phone. Again. I
didn't see who it was because Iwas driving with my wife and I picked
up the phone. I said,buddy, I'm in, I'll go,
And it was my sister calling andshe says, what I go? I'm

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sorry. I thought Tom was callingme back to inviting me to camp,
and she said, well, howdo you know him? I said,
I've never met him, but Ithought i'd be the perfect guy to go
with him on a campaign. Ijust wanted to go. I just wanted
to go, But they do itright over there at at TORRISI dude,
these in vistas look really nice,buddy. They don't think I've seen any

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of these before. They started twentyfor twenty three, okay, twenty two
nine for a brand new car.I'm blown away. These look really really
nice. And the crossovers yeah,and the computer the dash is all computerized.
I don't know how Buick screen Buick's. I don't know how they're making
money on these things. They canmake those in Detroit, ship them out

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here, sell them where everybody makesmoney, and still sell them for twenty
two grand. I'm impressed. Theseare really nice looking. I haven't seen
these, yeah, so I thinkthat's what I'm mak gat. I had
my eye on one of those,and then I, you know, I
saw the other high end cars.I was gonna get one of those,
and then my wife reminded me thatwe got a daughter going to college,

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and I, if I like goon the track I CA and also be
spenting fifty grand on a car.There's some nice colors too. I just
looked it upyous. Yeah, itlooks great. It works better than your
mic too. But but they yeah, the Vista is terrific. That is
gonna be the car of the future. This is the first year that came

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out. I like a lot ofthese cars that this new kind of red.
I think I've seen them most mostlyon like Mazda's lately, but a
lot of different manufacturer coming out withthis really nice red. And they got
this this red on this Invista.I think it's called a Cinnabar. I
think it's all but it's nice.Man. If I leave here, I'm
going to work for Tommy Georgia Man, slide over to Thorston and sell cars

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as soon as they fire me here, you know, because they will.
I've been fired from every job Iever had my life, every job.
And then when I leave here,I'll work for Thorston for two years and
he'll fire me too. I've beenfired from every job I've ever had.
I've never quit, not a quit, really never quit. I've been fired
from you every single job they've They'vefired me everyone Bergen's Arco. I used

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to sell the Herald Examiner. Iworked for Nordstroms for a little bit.
I worked for Amber's Chicken. Iworked for CBS, I worked for Fox,
I worked for USA Network. I'veworked for all these companies, Deeke
Entertainment, CBS Radio, Kalis,x IF Net, a computer company,

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and every one of those companies fired. You've heard every machination of it's not
working out both. Yeah, it'snot me, it's you. You're gone.
But what a great look. Ifyou want to see one of these
beautiful cars that's starting at twenty twothousand dollars, you want to get one
for you or your free kid whatever. The E n V I S T

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A made by Buick is going tobe the talk of the town. And
I'm going to be on the groundfloor this thing. You're listening to Tim
Conway Junior on demand from KFI AMsixty. A lot of people accuse me
of talking about cars to get justto get Jay Leno to call. Like
that works. Hey, Jay Lenois on the phone. Jay how you

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Bob? Yeah, I hear you'retalking about buying a car with your dad.
I would love to, but beforeyou start, I saw you driving
on Buena Vista, I believe,on Saturday, in a convertible car that
must have been made in the fiftieswas that you? Was it black?
Yes? Yeah, that was myfifty seven Buick. Yeah, and you're

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with a buddy, you're with apal. Yeah, yeah, that's right,
that's right. I hanked it youand you gave me the finger.
Yeah. Well, I mean myfriend knew it was you, so yeah,
oh yeah, I'd love to hear. Let's go okay, Uh well,
my my situation a little different thanyour time. You know, I
love cars. I know my dadwas not a car guy, but he

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would buy a new Caravty Company,but my dad would buy what was ever
on the showroom floor, just tillme that one get out of here.
There were up to show seeing motorsand andover Massachusetts, and the new Mustang
had just come out, so everythingwas Mustang's and fair length. There was
no full sized Galaxies. You're thebig car. So my dad said,
I want the big car. I'llgo to the Chevrot and I got Misslanic

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can order a car. He goes, why order what you call? Four
six weeks you'll get it. Idon't want to order a car, I
said, pomp, Then let's orderthe car. Come on, Oh hello,
all right, I want a Galaxy, I said, can I pick
the engine, and my mother said, well, let the book. I
was fifteen and a half. Iwas getting my luck. I remember the

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sales are name it was his namewas Tom Lawrence. So I pulled the
sales aside. Look, we wantthe sixty six four Galaxy with the four
twenty eight seven league too big againstcub against engine. I want to I
want to police for suit package.I knew my dad wouldn't go for a
stick shift, so I got theheavy duty S six automatic limited Slitt differential,

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three ninety gears and the Muscler deleteoption. All right, So my
father's oblivious. All he's just whatdo I say? It's just sign here
pop, Okay. Six weeks later, the car. Let's look at the
car. So we go in thecar the fucking seas. I don't want
buckets. I want to send theCommas sucking seas all of it. Oh
all right, five bucket, saysguy. He goes way, where's the

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key? He puts the key inthe runner the car. Hold hold the
muffles. You wanted the muffler,delete packet, muffle. That's part of
the police talking about Now my dad, Now my dad, he's a dad,

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Right the hell kind of thing,you know, just get the car,
get the car, We get thecars. I'm like, you know,
so I may and and we're onthe showroom floy you know, my
dad puts it in gear and juststeps down the guys. The car goes
kept screaming and everybody's oh, yeah, like, my boy, take the

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head. Why it's got some kindof rocket timbul So like my dad doesn't
think to me. Quite a week. Ten days later, I'm in my
parents' bedroom looking or something, andI got my dad got a ticket for
going one hundred and ten wow.Because you know, my dad was a
salesman and all the all the salesmenwere young guys, so they thought my

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dad was like the coolest boss becausehe had the fastest car. Oh that's
crazy. He took them all outfor ride, and they got nailed on
one hundred and ten wow, andone hundred and ten miles an hour,
you know, in a car thatwas what built in the fifties or sixties,
nineteen sixty six, nineteen sixty six, that's a that's a radical ride

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at one hundred and ten no.Because again that was the heir of the
muscle cars, all the fast carsbut still yeh. I mean the suspension
in the and the and the shockabsorbers are probably not what they are today.
You know, these shockups overs,they are different than well, what
a car guy you are. Thankyou. I do that to annoy you,

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by the way. Yeah, Iknow, and it works every time.
That's right. Hey, how wasSaturday show? I know you were
at the Flappers, but I heardyou sold out. It was good.
Yeah, you know, it's anice room. It's fun. You know.
When I was a kid, Iused to watch the Danny Thomas Show
and Daniel go, honey, I'mgoing down to the club to rehearse the
at right. So that's why I'llsay them. I'll say my right,

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honey. I'm gonna meet my agentsitting helper helper. Danny's helper's an agent,
and then I'm gonna be out tothe club. You know, you're
on the club and your agent wouldwait for your decline. Yeah, that's
what it's fun. I'm Mike livingthe Danny's Helpers Show. Hey, do
you remember the first time you metDavid Letterman? Yeah, you know,
I saw David on stage and Iwent up to him and I saw him.

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I thought he was a great wordsmith. He was a little nervous as
of before, but he was.He was great at phraseology and and saying
things in a funny way, youknow, not necessarily a joke joke,
but just you know, use theword beverridge instead of drinking, you know,
those kinds of things. Yuh so. And then he liked me because

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I was kind of loud and likehe was always amazed. But I could
eat minutes before I went on.So whenever I do let him and show,
I get like a huge meatball.I would stand outside the makeup area
and when Dave came down, I'dbe, Okay, I'm not going to

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eat now. Yeah, well wehad more fun. That's a classic,
buddy. I appreciate thanks for calling, buddy, and we'll we'll hitch on
that next show. You're the best, all right, jay Leno everybody,
And you know there's a there's arhyme or reason the reason why I'd bring
cars out because I know that guy'sgot a million stories. What a great

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story though, that he goes inand he buys a car for himself and
just has his dad sign all thepapers. That's classic, Jay leto the
host of the Tonight Show for many, many years. That's a big deal
that he calls us up. Youknow, that's not h You know,
he's not I listen to some otherradio stations during the day. He doesn't
call other radio stations. Never heardhim call other radio stations. I've never

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heard him call other radio shows.He calls us. Enjoys the program.
So if I have to tell acar story every once in a while to
get him to call in, it'sworth it. It's called it. It's
called jayfishing, like jay walking,remember jay walking. He'd walk around and
talk to people about, you know, pick up the dumbest people. And
at Universal Studios, you know,like, hey, where is California?

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Like, I don't know you're init right now? Oh that's wild.
Where's Universal Studios? I don't knowyou're you just paid to get in.
Oh okay, thank you. Butthat j Letto is great man. J
Letto, what a guy, oneof the funniest men in the world,
and calls us here on KFI.What a day. You're listening to Tim

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Conway Junior on demand from KFI AMsix forty. Paul stopped by one of
the big wigs here at iHeart Mediumis he the most seen Paul, you're
the most senior executive here at KFIor I heart in this building? Yes,
in this building. All right.That's cool. And just came down

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to say how much he loved theshow. That's really nice to you,
but I really appreciate it. Ilove your show, Tim. Okay,
that's great, man. What alife thing guy's got going on. That
guy's lived like a thousand years.He's got the best stories. But he
just told me like a really goodstory of the off the air, and

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I'm like, oh man, whenI went to lunch with me, he
hit me up with sales and stufflike that. I'm like, I don't
hear these good stories there. He'sa split, all right. I offended
him too, you know, can'tdo that. Guy's great. All right.
We got a lot to cover today. Taylor Swift is in the news.

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We have another shark attack. That'salways a big deal. These sharks
are buzzing around killing us and we'renot doing anything about it. They don't
get arrested, they don't get shotback, they don't get killed nothing.
Man, they just come in andwipe us out. Now I understand we're
going into their living room. Iget that. I get that, but
still they know the difference between sealsand human beings now and stop biting people

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and killing people. A shark attackin Hawaii. Got a shark attack in
Hawaii, and then we got anotherone in northern California. They're all over
the place. A shark attack inHawaii claiming the life of a world renowned
surfer. We can't confirm that itwas one of our own city and county
home of the life guards. NorthShore lifeguard to Mile Perry. Honolulu officials

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see professional surfer and lifeguard Tomayo Perrywas killed in a shark attack just before
one pm yesterday off the north coastof O Wahoo, Tamayle. Perry was
a lifeguard loved by all. Tomospersonality was an infectious and as much as
people loved him, he loved everyoneelse more. Lifeguards were covering Perry's body

(26:25):
by jet ski after a caller toldDispatch, you know what you don't hear
like you'll hear this with with regardsto lifeguards, and this works with an
infectious that he was infectious, allright, but you don't hear that with
like adult film stars. You knowwhat's a good what's a good adult film
star? Krozer? What's a popularone? Yeah, Krazer. These days

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I couldn't tell you. BELLYO whatno, just waving me off? Hi,
Stephus, what's a good adult filmstar? To make a reference?
Yeah, Stormy Daniels, Stormy Daniels. Okay, yeah, you would never
hear Stormy Daniels. You had aninfectious personality, you would you would never
hear them. Lifeguards were covering Perry'sbody by jet ski after a caller told

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dispatcher's his body appeared to have sufferedmore than one shark bite. Perry was
known. Now, see that's rarebecause sharks, when they bite human beings,
they realized they made a mistake andthey back off. But this shark
attacked twice, twice, extremely rare. Perry was known as one of the
greatest surfers in the world, andeven appeared in movies and television, including

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Blue Crush with Kate Bosworth. Yea, how the good It's pretty nuts?
You know. Somebody had written onlinebecause I saw this news story pop up
on I think it was on theLa Times. It's also on on the
New York Post, and somebody wrotein the comments section that he died he

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loved doing And I'm like, whatdied? What he loved doing? What?
Getting eaten alive by a shark?What the hell? What does that
mean? Kind of comment is thatPerry's death marks the second shark attack on
the island this month, but justthe ninth fatal shark attack in Hawaiian waters
since the state started keeping records innineteen ninety five. That's kind of wild.

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I mean, that's a radical statbut just the ninth fatal shark attack
in Hawaiian waters. Only nine peoplehave died in the Hawaiian waters due to
shark attack since what ninety five?Since the state started keeping records in nineteen
ninety five. Yeah, in thirtyyears. Nine that's won every three years,
three and a half years, wonevery three and a half years.

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Oh that still scares me. I'dstill stay of the water. Yeah.
You know, there's a lot ofpools in Hawaii. There's a lot of
lagoons, there's a lot of wateryou can get into. You don't have
to be out with the sharks.And they know there's sharks out there.
There's a lot of shark attacks.And I wondered if this guy was thinking

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at the time that he was beingkilled, Well, there's no better way
for me to die than this.Yeah, probably if he would agree with
that statement as it was happening,Well, I think you're onto something because
I would say conservatively that ninety eightpercent of surfers are high when they're surfing.

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Ninety eight Yeah, could be more, Okay, it could be more.
I don't like to you know,I don't like to exaggerate, but
I'd say ninety eight percent. Sowhen you're high and you got all the
endorphins going, and you love it, and the sun's setting, you got
a perfect wave and a shark attacksyou, you might be right, Crows.
That guy might be going, youknow what, is this the way

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to go? Completely, this isthe way to go. I bet he
had little, very little fear.I wish I had a time machine I
can go back and do it again. Yeah, very little fear. And
you know what's weird about these sharkbite victims, Almost without exception, the
first thing they do when they getbetter right back in the water, right
back in the water. And that'sand that's almost unique, or it is

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unique. You know, if youif you had a guy that died being
you know, thrown through a woodchipper, or he'd lost an arm through
a wood chipper. He'd stop usinga wood chipper anymore, you know,
he'd let somebody else do that.But these guys go right back in that
water after a shark attack. Whatdo they say about doing the same thing
twice? Yeah, right, continuingto do the same thing as one different

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result result, Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah, or or identity.
Yeah. But our old Angel Martinezgoes out and she sees sharks all
the time. She's a paddle borderand an outdoorsy type, which I don't
know, I guess that works forsome people. But you see how often

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you see sharks often, like likeprobably out of out of say ten days,
probably uh, you know, tomaybe two to three days. And
big sharks, baby sharks. I'venever seen a really big one close to
shore, but maybe like you know, seven feet seven foot shark right next

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to you. Yeah, Like tome, a really big one is over
ten feet. I've seen that sizeout in the channel before when I've been
out on a boat. I've seenon a boat. Okay, but well,
when you're paddling around, you've seena seven foot shark. Yeah,
I've seen one. It wasn't closeto where the waves were breaking. It
was offshore a little bit, butyou could tell between the distance of their

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dorsal fin and their tail fin.It was big. It was down in
right. But is that when youwhen you really concentrate on balance, balance,
balance, balance, that's when Igo in. That's when I get
out of the water. For you, it never does it ever occur to
you what am I doing out herewhen you see one? Absolutely? One
time I was out by myself andeverything all the sea life around me is

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teeming. The birds were chirping,there were you know everything you can hear
sounds of life all around you.All of a sudden, all of that
sound went away. Everything was wow, And I just got this huge chill
through my body. I'm like,I'm going in, and I just paddled
in. I tried to do itwithout freaking out because I didn't want to

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create any excessive splashing or anything.And I just went in because if all
those animals are out of there,there's a reason for it. Is that
the time where you went with yourex boyfriend, he turned around and he
was throwing chalm at you. Thewhole time. Yeah, it was that
time. Oh my gosh, I'msorry, I didn't realize I already told
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