July 5, 2024 • 30 mins
State of LA vs. OC safety: Newport Beach Killers Charged with Murder // GUEST - Russell Stuart: Beverly Hills Gun Club and Force Protection Agency - California's new gun and ammo tax takes effect. // CALLS: Would you consider buying a gun to feel safer in SoCal?
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It's KFI AM six forty and you'relistening to The Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. If you'd liketo weigh in on what we've been talking
about the past couple of hours,you go to the iHeartRadio app, click
the micro fun icon, send mea message to talk about President Biden.
We can talk about the homelessness,we can talk about traffic, mass transit,
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and then this is just an issueof our time right now. It
seems like you just can't turn onthe TV, turn on the radio,
you know, go online without hearingabout the latest crime. And it just
again we've been talking about here.I'm Phil Schuman, by the way from
Fox eleven News in for Tim ConwayJunior till seven o'clock tonight. We've been
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talking about just the fact that theday to day life here in southern California
it's a little bit maybe better inOC until recently than LA, but it's
a struggle. You know, rentsare high, you can't afford a house
if you're a young person. Homelessnessis an ongoing issue. The cost of
food, the cost of gas,this sort of device and divisiveness in the
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country on the national political stage,and then the feeling that the number one
thing is am I safe? Mykids safe when they go to school?
Is my wife safe when she isout on Ventura Boulevard? Is it safe
to go to the beach in Veniceor Santa Monica? And increasingly the answer
is no. And then in ajust a shocking story that happened this week
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on Tuesday, because you know,the narrative in southern California is that Los
Angeles dangerous, prosecutors soft on crime, Orange County beautiful, da There tough.
And again these are generalities that aren'talways accurate, but what happened at
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Fashion Square on two Tuesday just threweverybody Fashion Island, sorry, Fashion Island.
Fashion Square used to be a ShermanOaks Fashion Island in Newport Beach.
On Tuesday just shook everybody up.And I'm sure if you're paying attention,
you heard about it. If youhaven't heard about this, like where you've
been. But basically, three suspects, a twenty six year old, an
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eighteen year old and another eighteen yearold tried to steal a watch from a
couple that was coming out of astore at the Fashion Island mall and they
threw this guy down and his wifeand then he got up and tried to
defend himself and her. They gotin their car and they ran her over
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and killed her. I mean,this is just stunning to me. And
there after a watch. We don'tyet know the details. We've seen stories
in the past, like in BeverlyHill there's a line of watches called Richard
Mill which literally can cost half amillion dollars. The victim the man was
apparently a well known Australian named DougMcKay and his wife Patricia. He was
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trying to stop the car from speedingoff that ran over her. So today's
news is that Orange County District AttorneyTodd Spitzer has now filed murder charges against
the three men and they could facethe death penalty. Leroy Ernest Joseph McCrary
twenty six of La Malachai, EdwardDarnell eighteen of LA and Jaden Cunningham eighteen
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of Lancaster are going to be facingtrial down the road, assuming that the
allegations are accurate, and they alsoface a charge of a special circumstance murder
which a person over the age ofsixty five was killed during the commission of
a robbery. And the flip sideof this, which again will come as
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no surprise to people who are followingthe issues regarding George Cascone and his so
called progressive policies, is that McCrarywas convicted of felonies or residential burglary,
criminal threats in twenty twenty robbery intwenty twenty three, and apparently received probation
for those crimes. And so it'sanother case where the critics of George Gascone
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get to say that because of hisliberal policies, that a bad guy was
on the street who took a life, who perhaps should have been in prison,
and this is makes the tragedy allthe more difficult to comprehend. And
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again because Fashion Island in Newport Beachis you know, traditionally such a high
end exclusive area. The Mayor ofNewport Beach came out and said that when
it happened on Tuesday, and thishas just stunned so many people and just
reinforces the fact. And I hateto say it because you know, I
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live here too, and I wantto be safe too, right we all
do that. You just never knowwhere somebody is going to strike these days.
Orange County DA Todd Spitzer, youknow, is a frequent guest on
KFI. We know he's friends withBill Handel. I've interviewed him many times.
He's very straightforward and he blames aplace to blame quote on soft on
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crime policies, continuing the quote thatencourage criminality while sacrificing public safety. And
I've asked George Gascon about this myselfwhen he in The Times that he's made
himself available to the news media,and he continues to defend his progressive policy,
saying, you know, there's reallyno way to know someone who someone
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that I released on probation or grantprobation to or release early. How am
I to predict that he's now goingto go on to commit another crime.
I mean, we've seen this overand over again, and that's his explanation.
Or how am I I, youknow, enhance a sentencing enhancement.
If someone's going to get twenty fiveyears to life for a crime, another
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five years behind bars for the useof a gun is not going to make
the community safer. This is whyGeorge Gascon faced two unsuccessful recalls, and
this is why he's in jeopardy oflosing the election to Nathan Hodsman, who,
if you were listening to John Cobaltearlier, had a long interview with
him. So again, you knowthe fact that this has now come to
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Orange County in such a violent way, it's just really shaking people up,
and it's really really questioning, youknow, where we are as a society.
Where is is it safe anymore?The answer increasingly seems to be no.
And I don't have the answers tothat either, other than to say
that it seems like the knee jerkreaction to get tougher on crime, stronger
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sentences, stronger policies makes a wholeheck of a lot of sense. And
imagine how they're feeling, you know, overseas where this woman from New Zealand
was just killed in the most randomway, just brutal. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on Demand from KFIAM six forty. Coming up before seven
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o'clock. We're going to listen tosome of your messages that you sent in
on the talkback feature. Also we'regoing to take some phone calls a little
bit later on. If you withus. In the last segment, you
can't go a day here in southernCalifornia without some shocking crime stories. I
mean, yesterday Huntington Beach, thefourth of July. Two killed, three
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injured in an attack apparently a knifeattack, assault with the deadly weapon your
sixteenth Street in Pete, Caann Avenue. This was at eleven pm last night.
Several victims with significant injuries, fivepeople with the parent stab wounds.
Two died at the scene, threeothers taken to the hospital. Oh and
by the way, hot and sunnytoday, and you know, heat waved
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to continue over the next few days. In other words, it's almost like
the death count, we become likeimmune to it. A story that would
be, you know, the leadstory in most other cities or towns or
locations. It's like we just glossover it, almost as if it's just
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routine and it's somehow accepted and it'sjust wrong. I mean, I know,
especially being in the news business,you just sort of become like desensitized
to it. It's almost like aform of PTSD. And so in talking
about crime, one of the gentlementhat I thought of, with some help
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again from Marlatte as my college atFox eleven, who's interviewed him live on
the air a couple of times,and joining us is Russell Stewart. Russell
Stewart operates a force protection agency ofessentially a bodyguard security type service, and
also sells weapons at the Beverly HillsGun Club. Russell, are you with
me, sir? How you doing? My bred? So, Russell,
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we were talking yesterday, I believeit was the day before about what's happened.
What's happened in the demand for gunsin this climate we live in.
Can you tell us about that?Well, the demand for guns is at
an unprecedented high. I mean,as you touched upon, we are dealing
with crime that we have not seenprobably since the height of the pandemic.
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But I think that is even morethan that. I think that we're in
a time period right now where lawlessnessis the law of the land. People
are scared. Between you know,our Jewish brothers and sisters out there that
are dealing with the aftermaths of Octoberseventh, to the policies of George gascon
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our DA that have involved in criminals. It has just become a just an
incredible scenery of lawless and so theanswer for some people who are running the
guns. So the answer for alot of people in is I want to
arm myself. I mean, isthat is that I guess from your perspective,
the answer is yes, But isthat the answer, Whether it's the
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answer or not, I mean,it's definitely the thing that people are running
too. And the numbers don't lie. The people that come into my office
every single day you have conversations aboutjust saying, where's the world going right?
And the world's not going in theright place. You know, it's
not going in the right direction.And for those that are coming into the
office lately, I mean, youknow a lot of these people are first
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time buyers, right who would havenever thought that they would ever own a
gun before, and now they areand they say, what, I don't
feel safe or going to be ableto protect myself. I'm afraid to go
out. I mean a combination ofall of those things. I think you
just said it right on the head. I mean, every single one of
those things are discussed daily. AndI don't believe that they believe that the
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leadership that is in charge of keepingthis are doing a good job. And
I don't think that they see themdoing any better job. In the future,
so, you know, including lawenforcement. Yeah, and I'm the
number one fan of law enforcement officers, but the leadership that dictates how these
people do their job. I thinkthat there's just a lack of trust in
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the ability that if someone's going tocall nine to one one that no one's
going to come and help. Sofirearms and other self protection items have become
the hottest topic in the world.What's the waiting period for a handgun now?
Well, it's been the same waitingperiod for thirty years for a handgun.
Here in California, it's a tenday waiting period. As of a
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couple of years ago. Now youcan only buy one gun for thirty days,
which to those that might be listeningand say, well that's enough.
Well to some people that might havemultiple properties or want to keep one at
their home, you know, theCalifornia laws are incredibly restrictive, way more
than anywhere else in the nation.And how much does a gun cost,
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Well they vary, I know theyvary, but I mean, like,
you know, you're thousands of dollars, but you know, the average guns
probably six seven hundred dollars. Butunfortunately, now with the new eleven percent
x size tax that kicked in justa few days ago on July first,
guns are costing a heck of alot more. Yeah, that's a new
law that essentially doubles the tax onguns and ammunition that took effect the July
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first. I believe it's the firsttax of its kind in the country,
and the money raised is theoretically goingto go to gun gun violence prevention efforts,
and I know there's actually been lawsuitsfiled already to try to repeal that
that state law. In addition tothe gun what kind of training is required?
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Well, to buy a firearm,there's actually not much training at all.
I mean you have to go throughit's called the Firearms Safety Certificate Course,
which is just a thirty question test. So to buy a gun and
to own a gun in this dayto California, much like anywhere else in
the country, there's not much trainingrequired at all. But unlike other stores,
we you know, advocate tremendously fortraining and we offer training here.
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And then also too many of ourcustomers are looking to get a concealed carry
permit, which actually requires quite abit of training. And that's a whole
other issue. That's a whole otherwhole other bug right, a whole other
bag of wack. I mean,I guess, but we definitely sorry,
go ahead, No, I mean, I'm not a gun owner, although
I certainly can understand the motive,the motivation to become one, But I
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just maybe I'm still clinging to someidealism. But I just don't know if
I'm want to live in a societywhere we're all walking around, you know,
pack and heat or you know,everybody has it, you know,
in their in their nightstand. Imean, fortunately, I have not personally
been a victim of violent crime.I've certainly spoken to countless numbers of people
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who have been. But I thinkyou understand what I'm saying. It's a
question of, you know, whatkind of of society we want to with
them. I totally agree with you, And unfortunately, you know, I
would love to be an idealist andI'd love to see the glass half full,
but I'm also, you know,a realist, and I see the
stats, and unfortunately, the worldis turning into a very violent place,
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not because good people that buy gunsare going out and committing crimes. Those
guns and night stands are not robbingstores and stealing rolexes off of people's wrists.
Those are the people that want todo havoc, regardless of the weapon.
So I don't think that you everhave to worry about law abiding citizens
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who are buying weapons or getting concealedcarry permits. They are not the problem.
It is the problem that of peoplethat understand that there is no punishment
for the crime that they're doing.They're emboldened right now. And those are
the people that are driving law abidingcitizen first time gun buyers to firearms because
they do not see any on thehorizon. Russell Stewart from the Beverly Hills
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Gun Club and Force Protection Agency,I appreciate your information and the role you're
playing and trying to keep us safe, and thanks and I'll look forward to
talking with you in the future.Coming up, I want you folks who
are listening to be thinking about whetheryou would would ever consider buying a gun,
and we're going to take some phonecalls on that specific question. You're
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listening to Tim Conway Junior on demandfrom KFI AM six forty Kill Schumann.
This is KFI AM six forty liveeverywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You may
recognize that name or this voice fromFox eleven News, and then many years
at KNBC Channel four, which Ican actually see out the windows here.
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The studios at KFI and Burbank camehere in nineteen eighty three, and I've
covered pretty much every kind of newsstory there is between then and now,
and this is the first opportunity they'vehad to sit in at KFI AM six
forty. And it's really a lotof fun because I'm a big talk radio
guy, and I think it's importantto have these kinds of discussions and sort
of a semi civilized, semi intelligentmanner rather than screaming at each other metaphorically
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through social media. Right. Infact, I deleted I recently deleted Twitter
and Instagram off my phone because Ijust found myself spending so much time looking
at this, thinking what a hugewaste of time that is. But at
the same time, Twitter, inparticular X has essentially become indispensable for news
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coverage and the dissemination of news information. That's how most major agencies, news
organizations, government agencies, law enforcementagencies put out information. So if you'd
like to check out my Twitter feed, although I had been less engaged in
it, lately it's at Fox Phil. At Fox Phil, thank you to
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Russell Stewart, Hill's gun club ownerwho spoke with this last segment about the
fact that so many more people arebuying guns now because of the violent crime
in southern California, and so giveus a call. It one eight hundred
five to oh one KFI. That'sone eight hundred five to oh one five
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three four. And my question toyou, very simply is, would you
consider buying a gun here in southernCalifornia? Would that make you safer?
Let's go to Roy in Ontario.Roy, thanks for calling in. What
are your thoughts on that? Yeah, Phil, a great job. I'm
a big fan, by the way, But my thoughts are I think it's
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that's what it's coming down to,with crime getting out of hand, and
you know, the politicians and I'mprotecting the people. It's something to definitely
consider. I do carry non lethaltools, for example, like pepper spray,
tactical pins, tactical flashlights. Ikeep that on me, but myself,
I'm definitely considering. It's a goodidea. Like the last guest set
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and take some classes, get familiarwith firearms and understand the laws which is
important too, because even if alegal situation happens, even if you're a
good guy and you pull that trigger, you're gonna have to end up going
to court. And there's a lotof things that can come out of it.
But I think the reality is withthe criminal element, homelessness, mental
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illness, and the fact hard timeare they release on that that's causing the
problem. And I and when wehave that constitutional right, and I think
that's that's something that uh, that'sa new reality for people in southern California,
especially happening right now at this moment. Well, Ry, I appreciate
your your thoughts. I agree withyou, and I also have pepper spray,
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and I haven't yet taken the leadto anything more uh more lethal,
and and and and hope I feellike I don't have to. But thanks
so much for listening, and thanksfor watching news. Would you buy a
gun? One eight five to oneKFI, Morrison Studio City? What do
you what are you thinking? Weknow I would not buy a gun.
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The majority of the idiots that alreadycommitted crimes are convicted criminals. They can't
own a gun, so they breakingyou home. Look underneath the mattress,
they know where to look for andgo find a gun, steal it,
use of somebody. All right,It's just like these street takeovers, the
majority of the street takeovers, theseside shows. The cars are stolen,
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they know who the drivers are.They injured somebody, the cars are destroyed
and kissed me, kke go lookfor him. So actually no, I
would not have a gun, allright, Morris, thanks for that.
I mean that is that is agood point. Do you have run the
risk of having it stolen? Uhand used against you or against someone else?
Kelly Kelly's in Santa Monica and KFIKelseyaman, good afternoon. Yes,
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I absolutely even having a gun orguns, absolutely, especially if you get
a CCW, which is a concealedcarry permit. Right what happened in Beverly
Hills last week with the gentleman inthe four twenty seven Cobra when the three
or four thugs from Oakland came downand tried to steal his rolex and then
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the poor woman. They showed apicture of the woman in Fashion Island.
Her husband was the CEO of theBack of New Zealand. And what did
they do? The three thugs triedto get her Rolex watched, well,
she was at Fashion Island, sothey decided to run her over because they
didn't get to watch, and thenthey started shooting at one of the Good
Samaritans. Do you have a Doyou have a gun yourself? I have
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several and having a concealed carry permitcarrier, and you're prepared to use it.
I practice every week every week.You know, there's no way I'm
going to be victimized by these thugs. But it does make you feel safer,
absolutely absolutely. All right, Well, thank you for that call.
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I appreciate that without it, allright, Well, that's certainly very welcome.
Yeah, all right, Lee andSanta Barbara, thanks for calling KFI.
What are your thoughts on whether youwould buy a gun or whether you
think that would make you safer?Hi, thanks for talking with me.
Yes, I'm a native California andreally disgusted about what's happening in our state.
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And it's funny this topic should comeup because I just went to where
I could purchase a gun today andgot the information on what I need to
do as a gentleman referenced in theearlier call. I do plan on doing
that. I do plan on protectingmyself. I'm married. I'm talking to
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my husband about this, but absolutely, crime is like way out of control.
We cannot count on other people toprotect us anymore. I mean,
you see yourself being able to pullthe trigger if it came to that,
as long as I knew the legalitiesthat I couldn't get myself in trouble if
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somebody was in my house. AndI do plan on studying that one.
And I'm a retired nurse and I'mtelling you that I'm not going to be
a victim. It's scotten out ofcontrol. Harlee, I hope you never
become a victim. And thanks forcalling in. We have time for some
more. Ashley and Ontario. Thisis KFI. I'm Phil Schumann. Hi
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Bill, how are you good?How are you? I'm doing pretty well
to weigh in myself. I ama mother of three small children. I
have ah did we lose? Ashley? Mother are three small children. I
think she was going to say thatshe would consider buying a gun if she
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didn't already have one. Hey,I get it, I get it.
Like I said, personally, it'snot a choice that I have made,
but I certainly understand it. Ihave friends that have guns, and I
if I could put myselves in theshoes of a victim, if someone asked
me, could you pull the trigger? I think the answer is absolutely yes.
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Having said that, we live ina country with about three hundred and
thirty three million people and there arealmost four hundred million firearms, so more
than one for every person. SoI'm not sure it's helping anything. All
right, We're not gonna resolve thatissue in the next few minutes, so
we're gonna move on, and whenwe come back, we're gonna hear more
from President Biden. We started inthe four o'clock hour talking about President Biden
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and the high stakes interview that hedid today with the ABC's George Stephanopolis in
the hopes of rebuilding momentum and regainingcredibility as a presidential candidate. We're gonna
hear from the President and also hearsome of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app.
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior ondemand from KFI AM six forty.
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I'm Phil Schuman in the home stretchsitting in for Tim Conway Junior. Thanks
very much for the opportunity, lookforward to it. Perhaps the next time.
So one of the cool things aboutthe iHeartRadio app, as we've been
mentioning it, is has that microphoneicon that you can click on that and
send a message. We call itthe talk back feature. And tonight,
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if you've been with us since thefour o'clock hour, we had some clips
from the exclusive George Stefanopoulos sit downinterview with President Biden. It's going to
air it's an entirety tonight at eightpm Pacific on ABC and their related platforms,
and we asked people what they thought, and here's some of the messages
regarding President Biden. What would Ineed to hear? I would need to
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actually see the Department of Justice tapeon the interview where it was declared that
he was unable to stand trial becausethey felt like he was mentally not with
it. And then I'd like tosee a debate with RFK Junior. Yes,
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this is David from Southern California.It's past the time for Biden to
do anything. There is nothing hecould say, nothing he could do.
He should just fade away and enjoyhis life when he's got left. The
reason the White House picked Stepanopolis forthis is because he's never going to ask
Biden any hard questions. Probably thehardest question Biden will get is you know
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what's his name? Well, well, I wouldn't go that far, but
thanks to those folks for chiming in. As a matter of fact, George
Stefanopolis. Of course, his historyis that he was you know, Democratic
Party operative and advisor to President Clinton, a former communications director, and the
thinking is that he was going tobe friendlier than others perhaps, and that's
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why the Biden campaign reached out tohim. So, as I mentioned,
this interview was done earlier tonight onWisconsin where the President was campaigning, and
we have an opportunity to play alittle bit of it. And what I've
heard, the limited amount I've heardso far, is that ste Stephanoppolis did
ask some tough questions. Here's partof that exclusive with ABC News. Seemed
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like you were having trouble from thefirst question in, even before he spoke,
well, I just had a badnight. How quickly did it come
to you that you were having thatbad night? Well, Caine is having
a bad night. When I realizedthat even when I was answering a question,
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even if I turned to his micoff, he was still shouting and
I'd love to distract me. I'mnot blaming it on that, but I
realized that I just wasn't in control. That was President Biden sitting down with
George Stephanoppolis from ABC News. Again. It's about a fifteen or twenty minute
interview. ABC is apparently scheduled abouta half an hour of primetime tonight eight
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pm Pacific, So check it out. I mean, the stakes are are
high, uh, to say theleast. You know, so much discussion
about President Biden and how disappointed hishis supporters were, not just his critics,
but how disappointed his supporters were athis performance in that debate. I
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mean I watched it live with anonpartisan group of voters in downtown Los Angeles
and even they were, you know, cringing, And that was that was
the strongest comment that I got,that people who are Biden fans just were
stunned at how poorly he did andhow much he disappointed them. So that's
that's been the big story today.Meantime, you know, President Biden has
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insisted that he's staying in the raceand not going anywhere. So coming up
at the top of the hour,young Moe Kelly is joining us live in
studio. Now, Well, youare very kind. Good to see him.
Not young by any objective measure,not even relatively anymore. Thank you,
well, okay, but just tryingto be kind. Hey, it's
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great to see you. And itwas so much fun sitting in here.
You know, I've been telling folksI'm a huge talk radio guy. Listen
to you Conway, Cobalt, Shannonand Gary. I mean, you know
handle obviously in the morning, andyou've done all kinds of different shifts here,
know, all those fun folks.What do you have cooking tonight?
Well, Friday, if you didn'tknow, we played name that movie called
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Classic in the nine o'clock hour.Okay, we'll play a clip of a
movie. Callers call in and tryto guess the movie the win a prize.
But also we take care of alittle local business before we get there.
We're gonna definitely talk about the Bideninterview. It's already aired on the
East Coast, so we'll play someclips from that. Flock cameras are coming
to California. I just come backfrom South Korea and will allow you on
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social The level of surveillance was offputting but something very similar is going to
be done in California now. Anddoes it result in less crime? Well,
it does resu in greater apprehension ofcriminals. Okay, I don't know
if it results in less crime,but that's a good point. Yeah,
And they have those in the millRows Neighborhood Organization put those in yes,
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Yes. And Beverly Hills, bythe way, is totally covered with cameras
well, not block cameras, butcity cameras, So I definitely makes a
difference. I think. Yeah.Well, I think if anything, we
were always headed in that direction andit was the next likely step as far
as trying to fight this crime onsome level. So this talk radio thing,
you think it's going to catch on, it will always be around.
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It's just a function of whether weget it in our car or somewhere else.
I love it. I mean wecall it audio now because half of
people listen on the app, right, it's audio content. Yeah, And
so are you going to stick withus? So I'd love to look forward
to the next time. Mo Kelly, thanks so much for your time.
Look forward to listening to you whenI'm heading home. So that's going to
do it. Phil Schumann from Foxeleven News in for Tim Conway Junior.
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Again, thanks for the opportunity tosit here in the big boy chair behind
the microphones. KFI Conway Show ondemand on the iHeartRadio app. Now you
can always hear us live on KFIAm six forty four to seven pm Monday
through Friday, and anytime on demandon the iHeartRadio app.
It's KFI AM six forty and you'relistening to The Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. If you'd liketo weigh in on what we've been talking
about the past couple of hours,you go to the iHeartRadio app, click
the micro fun icon, send mea message to talk about President Biden.
We can talk about the homelessness,we can talk about traffic, mass transit,
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and then this is just an issueof our time right now. It
seems like you just can't turn onthe TV, turn on the radio,
you know, go online without hearingabout the latest crime. And it just
again we've been talking about here.I'm Phil Schuman, by the way from
Fox eleven News in for Tim ConwayJunior till seven o'clock tonight. We've been
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talking about just the fact that theday to day life here in southern California
it's a little bit maybe better inOC until recently than LA, but it's
a struggle. You know, rentsare high, you can't afford a house
if you're a young person. Homelessnessis an ongoing issue. The cost of
food, the cost of gas,this sort of device and divisiveness in the
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country on the national political stage,and then the feeling that the number one
thing is am I safe? Mykids safe when they go to school?
Is my wife safe when she isout on Ventura Boulevard? Is it safe
to go to the beach in Veniceor Santa Monica? And increasingly the answer
is no. And then in ajust a shocking story that happened this week
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on Tuesday, because you know,the narrative in southern California is that Los
Angeles dangerous, prosecutors soft on crime, Orange County beautiful, da There tough.
And again these are generalities that aren'talways accurate, but what happened at
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Fashion Square on two Tuesday just threweverybody Fashion Island, sorry, Fashion Island.
Fashion Square used to be a ShermanOaks Fashion Island in Newport Beach.
On Tuesday just shook everybody up.And I'm sure if you're paying attention,
you heard about it. If youhaven't heard about this, like where you've
been. But basically, three suspects, a twenty six year old, an
(02:19):
eighteen year old and another eighteen yearold tried to steal a watch from a
couple that was coming out of astore at the Fashion Island mall and they
threw this guy down and his wifeand then he got up and tried to
defend himself and her. They gotin their car and they ran her over
(02:42):
and killed her. I mean,this is just stunning to me. And
there after a watch. We don'tyet know the details. We've seen stories
in the past, like in BeverlyHill there's a line of watches called Richard
Mill which literally can cost half amillion dollars. The victim the man was
apparently a well known Australian named DougMcKay and his wife Patricia. He was
(03:08):
trying to stop the car from speedingoff that ran over her. So today's
news is that Orange County District AttorneyTodd Spitzer has now filed murder charges against
the three men and they could facethe death penalty. Leroy Ernest Joseph McCrary
twenty six of La Malachai, EdwardDarnell eighteen of LA and Jaden Cunningham eighteen
(03:31):
of Lancaster are going to be facingtrial down the road, assuming that the
allegations are accurate, and they alsoface a charge of a special circumstance murder
which a person over the age ofsixty five was killed during the commission of
a robbery. And the flip sideof this, which again will come as
(03:51):
no surprise to people who are followingthe issues regarding George Cascone and his so
called progressive policies, is that McCrarywas convicted of felonies or residential burglary,
criminal threats in twenty twenty robbery intwenty twenty three, and apparently received probation
for those crimes. And so it'sanother case where the critics of George Gascone
(04:15):
get to say that because of hisliberal policies, that a bad guy was
on the street who took a life, who perhaps should have been in prison,
and this is makes the tragedy allthe more difficult to comprehend. And
(04:36):
again because Fashion Island in Newport Beachis you know, traditionally such a high
end exclusive area. The Mayor ofNewport Beach came out and said that when
it happened on Tuesday, and thishas just stunned so many people and just
reinforces the fact. And I hateto say it because you know, I
(04:57):
live here too, and I wantto be safe too, right we all
do that. You just never knowwhere somebody is going to strike these days.
Orange County DA Todd Spitzer, youknow, is a frequent guest on
KFI. We know he's friends withBill Handel. I've interviewed him many times.
He's very straightforward and he blames aplace to blame quote on soft on
(05:20):
crime policies, continuing the quote thatencourage criminality while sacrificing public safety. And
I've asked George Gascon about this myselfwhen he in The Times that he's made
himself available to the news media,and he continues to defend his progressive policy,
saying, you know, there's reallyno way to know someone who someone
(05:44):
that I released on probation or grantprobation to or release early. How am
I to predict that he's now goingto go on to commit another crime.
I mean, we've seen this overand over again, and that's his explanation.
Or how am I I, youknow, enhance a sentencing enhancement.
If someone's going to get twenty fiveyears to life for a crime, another
(06:06):
five years behind bars for the useof a gun is not going to make
the community safer. This is whyGeorge Gascon faced two unsuccessful recalls, and
this is why he's in jeopardy oflosing the election to Nathan Hodsman, who,
if you were listening to John Cobaltearlier, had a long interview with
him. So again, you knowthe fact that this has now come to
(06:28):
Orange County in such a violent way, it's just really shaking people up,
and it's really really questioning, youknow, where we are as a society.
Where is is it safe anymore?The answer increasingly seems to be no.
And I don't have the answers tothat either, other than to say
that it seems like the knee jerkreaction to get tougher on crime, stronger
(06:51):
sentences, stronger policies makes a wholeheck of a lot of sense. And
imagine how they're feeling, you know, overseas where this woman from New Zealand
was just killed in the most randomway, just brutal. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on Demand from KFIAM six forty. Coming up before seven
(07:15):
o'clock. We're going to listen tosome of your messages that you sent in
on the talkback feature. Also we'regoing to take some phone calls a little
bit later on. If you withus. In the last segment, you
can't go a day here in southernCalifornia without some shocking crime stories. I
mean, yesterday Huntington Beach, thefourth of July. Two killed, three
(07:35):
injured in an attack apparently a knifeattack, assault with the deadly weapon your
sixteenth Street in Pete, Caann Avenue. This was at eleven pm last night.
Several victims with significant injuries, fivepeople with the parent stab wounds.
Two died at the scene, threeothers taken to the hospital. Oh and
by the way, hot and sunnytoday, and you know, heat waved
(08:00):
to continue over the next few days. In other words, it's almost like
the death count, we become likeimmune to it. A story that would
be, you know, the leadstory in most other cities or towns or
locations. It's like we just glossover it, almost as if it's just
(08:20):
routine and it's somehow accepted and it'sjust wrong. I mean, I know,
especially being in the news business,you just sort of become like desensitized
to it. It's almost like aform of PTSD. And so in talking
about crime, one of the gentlementhat I thought of, with some help
(08:41):
again from Marlatte as my college atFox eleven, who's interviewed him live on
the air a couple of times,and joining us is Russell Stewart. Russell
Stewart operates a force protection agency ofessentially a bodyguard security type service, and
also sells weapons at the Beverly HillsGun Club. Russell, are you with
me, sir? How you doing? My bred? So, Russell,
(09:05):
we were talking yesterday, I believeit was the day before about what's happened.
What's happened in the demand for gunsin this climate we live in.
Can you tell us about that?Well, the demand for guns is at
an unprecedented high. I mean,as you touched upon, we are dealing
with crime that we have not seenprobably since the height of the pandemic.
(09:30):
But I think that is even morethan that. I think that we're in
a time period right now where lawlessnessis the law of the land. People
are scared. Between you know,our Jewish brothers and sisters out there that
are dealing with the aftermaths of Octoberseventh, to the policies of George gascon
(09:50):
our DA that have involved in criminals. It has just become a just an
incredible scenery of lawless and so theanswer for some people who are running the
guns. So the answer for alot of people in is I want to
arm myself. I mean, isthat is that I guess from your perspective,
the answer is yes, But isthat the answer, Whether it's the
(10:13):
answer or not, I mean,it's definitely the thing that people are running
too. And the numbers don't lie. The people that come into my office
every single day you have conversations aboutjust saying, where's the world going right?
And the world's not going in theright place. You know, it's
not going in the right direction.And for those that are coming into the
office lately, I mean, youknow a lot of these people are first
(10:35):
time buyers, right who would havenever thought that they would ever own a
gun before, and now they areand they say, what, I don't
feel safe or going to be ableto protect myself. I'm afraid to go
out. I mean a combination ofall of those things. I think you
just said it right on the head. I mean, every single one of
those things are discussed daily. AndI don't believe that they believe that the
(10:56):
leadership that is in charge of keepingthis are doing a good job. And
I don't think that they see themdoing any better job. In the future,
so, you know, including lawenforcement. Yeah, and I'm the
number one fan of law enforcement officers, but the leadership that dictates how these
people do their job. I thinkthat there's just a lack of trust in
(11:18):
the ability that if someone's going tocall nine to one one that no one's
going to come and help. Sofirearms and other self protection items have become
the hottest topic in the world.What's the waiting period for a handgun now?
Well, it's been the same waitingperiod for thirty years for a handgun.
Here in California, it's a tenday waiting period. As of a
(11:41):
couple of years ago. Now youcan only buy one gun for thirty days,
which to those that might be listeningand say, well that's enough.
Well to some people that might havemultiple properties or want to keep one at
their home, you know, theCalifornia laws are incredibly restrictive, way more
than anywhere else in the nation.And how much does a gun cost,
(12:03):
Well they vary, I know theyvary, but I mean, like,
you know, you're thousands of dollars, but you know, the average guns
probably six seven hundred dollars. Butunfortunately, now with the new eleven percent
x size tax that kicked in justa few days ago on July first,
guns are costing a heck of alot more. Yeah, that's a new
law that essentially doubles the tax onguns and ammunition that took effect the July
(12:26):
first. I believe it's the firsttax of its kind in the country,
and the money raised is theoretically goingto go to gun gun violence prevention efforts,
and I know there's actually been lawsuitsfiled already to try to repeal that
that state law. In addition tothe gun what kind of training is required?
(12:48):
Well, to buy a firearm,there's actually not much training at all.
I mean you have to go throughit's called the Firearms Safety Certificate Course,
which is just a thirty question test. So to buy a gun and
to own a gun in this dayto California, much like anywhere else in
the country, there's not much trainingrequired at all. But unlike other stores,
we you know, advocate tremendously fortraining and we offer training here.
(13:11):
And then also too many of ourcustomers are looking to get a concealed carry
permit, which actually requires quite abit of training. And that's a whole
other issue. That's a whole otherwhole other bug right, a whole other
bag of wack. I mean,I guess, but we definitely sorry,
go ahead, No, I mean, I'm not a gun owner, although
I certainly can understand the motive,the motivation to become one, But I
(13:31):
just maybe I'm still clinging to someidealism. But I just don't know if
I'm want to live in a societywhere we're all walking around, you know,
pack and heat or you know,everybody has it, you know,
in their in their nightstand. Imean, fortunately, I have not personally
been a victim of violent crime.I've certainly spoken to countless numbers of people
(13:54):
who have been. But I thinkyou understand what I'm saying. It's a
question of, you know, whatkind of of society we want to with
them. I totally agree with you, And unfortunately, you know, I
would love to be an idealist andI'd love to see the glass half full,
but I'm also, you know,a realist, and I see the
stats, and unfortunately, the worldis turning into a very violent place,
(14:18):
not because good people that buy gunsare going out and committing crimes. Those
guns and night stands are not robbingstores and stealing rolexes off of people's wrists.
Those are the people that want todo havoc, regardless of the weapon.
So I don't think that you everhave to worry about law abiding citizens
(14:39):
who are buying weapons or getting concealedcarry permits. They are not the problem.
It is the problem that of peoplethat understand that there is no punishment
for the crime that they're doing.They're emboldened right now. And those are
the people that are driving law abidingcitizen first time gun buyers to firearms because
they do not see any on thehorizon. Russell Stewart from the Beverly Hills
(15:03):
Gun Club and Force Protection Agency,I appreciate your information and the role you're
playing and trying to keep us safe, and thanks and I'll look forward to
talking with you in the future.Coming up, I want you folks who
are listening to be thinking about whetheryou would would ever consider buying a gun,
and we're going to take some phonecalls on that specific question. You're
(15:26):
listening to Tim Conway Junior on demandfrom KFI AM six forty Kill Schumann.
This is KFI AM six forty liveeverywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You may
recognize that name or this voice fromFox eleven News, and then many years
at KNBC Channel four, which Ican actually see out the windows here.
(15:48):
The studios at KFI and Burbank camehere in nineteen eighty three, and I've
covered pretty much every kind of newsstory there is between then and now,
and this is the first opportunity they'vehad to sit in at KFI AM six
forty. And it's really a lotof fun because I'm a big talk radio
guy, and I think it's importantto have these kinds of discussions and sort
of a semi civilized, semi intelligentmanner rather than screaming at each other metaphorically
(16:15):
through social media. Right. Infact, I deleted I recently deleted Twitter
and Instagram off my phone because Ijust found myself spending so much time looking
at this, thinking what a hugewaste of time that is. But at
the same time, Twitter, inparticular X has essentially become indispensable for news
(16:36):
coverage and the dissemination of news information. That's how most major agencies, news
organizations, government agencies, law enforcementagencies put out information. So if you'd
like to check out my Twitter feed, although I had been less engaged in
it, lately it's at Fox Phil. At Fox Phil, thank you to
(16:57):
Russell Stewart, Hill's gun club ownerwho spoke with this last segment about the
fact that so many more people arebuying guns now because of the violent crime
in southern California, and so giveus a call. It one eight hundred
five to oh one KFI. That'sone eight hundred five to oh one five
(17:18):
three four. And my question toyou, very simply is, would you
consider buying a gun here in southernCalifornia? Would that make you safer?
Let's go to Roy in Ontario.Roy, thanks for calling in. What
are your thoughts on that? Yeah, Phil, a great job. I'm
a big fan, by the way, But my thoughts are I think it's
(17:40):
that's what it's coming down to,with crime getting out of hand, and
you know, the politicians and I'mprotecting the people. It's something to definitely
consider. I do carry non lethaltools, for example, like pepper spray,
tactical pins, tactical flashlights. Ikeep that on me, but myself,
I'm definitely considering. It's a goodidea. Like the last guest set
(18:03):
and take some classes, get familiarwith firearms and understand the laws which is
important too, because even if alegal situation happens, even if you're a
good guy and you pull that trigger, you're gonna have to end up going
to court. And there's a lotof things that can come out of it.
But I think the reality is withthe criminal element, homelessness, mental
(18:26):
illness, and the fact hard timeare they release on that that's causing the
problem. And I and when wehave that constitutional right, and I think
that's that's something that uh, that'sa new reality for people in southern California,
especially happening right now at this moment. Well, Ry, I appreciate
your your thoughts. I agree withyou, and I also have pepper spray,
(18:49):
and I haven't yet taken the leadto anything more uh more lethal,
and and and and hope I feellike I don't have to. But thanks
so much for listening, and thanksfor watching news. Would you buy a
gun? One eight five to oneKFI, Morrison Studio City? What do
you what are you thinking? Weknow I would not buy a gun.
(19:10):
The majority of the idiots that alreadycommitted crimes are convicted criminals. They can't
own a gun, so they breakingyou home. Look underneath the mattress,
they know where to look for andgo find a gun, steal it,
use of somebody. All right,It's just like these street takeovers, the
majority of the street takeovers, theseside shows. The cars are stolen,
(19:33):
they know who the drivers are.They injured somebody, the cars are destroyed
and kissed me, kke go lookfor him. So actually no, I
would not have a gun, allright, Morris, thanks for that.
I mean that is that is agood point. Do you have run the
risk of having it stolen? Uhand used against you or against someone else?
Kelly Kelly's in Santa Monica and KFIKelseyaman, good afternoon. Yes,
(19:59):
I absolutely even having a gun orguns, absolutely, especially if you get
a CCW, which is a concealedcarry permit. Right what happened in Beverly
Hills last week with the gentleman inthe four twenty seven Cobra when the three
or four thugs from Oakland came downand tried to steal his rolex and then
(20:19):
the poor woman. They showed apicture of the woman in Fashion Island.
Her husband was the CEO of theBack of New Zealand. And what did
they do? The three thugs triedto get her Rolex watched, well,
she was at Fashion Island, sothey decided to run her over because they
didn't get to watch, and thenthey started shooting at one of the Good
Samaritans. Do you have a Doyou have a gun yourself? I have
(20:42):
several and having a concealed carry permitcarrier, and you're prepared to use it.
I practice every week every week.You know, there's no way I'm
going to be victimized by these thugs. But it does make you feel safer,
absolutely absolutely. All right, Well, thank you for that call.
(21:03):
I appreciate that without it, allright, Well, that's certainly very welcome.
Yeah, all right, Lee andSanta Barbara, thanks for calling KFI.
What are your thoughts on whether youwould buy a gun or whether you
think that would make you safer?Hi, thanks for talking with me.
Yes, I'm a native California andreally disgusted about what's happening in our state.
(21:25):
And it's funny this topic should comeup because I just went to where
I could purchase a gun today andgot the information on what I need to
do as a gentleman referenced in theearlier call. I do plan on doing
that. I do plan on protectingmyself. I'm married. I'm talking to
(21:47):
my husband about this, but absolutely, crime is like way out of control.
We cannot count on other people toprotect us anymore. I mean,
you see yourself being able to pullthe trigger if it came to that,
as long as I knew the legalitiesthat I couldn't get myself in trouble if
(22:07):
somebody was in my house. AndI do plan on studying that one.
And I'm a retired nurse and I'mtelling you that I'm not going to be
a victim. It's scotten out ofcontrol. Harlee, I hope you never
become a victim. And thanks forcalling in. We have time for some
more. Ashley and Ontario. Thisis KFI. I'm Phil Schumann. Hi
(22:32):
Bill, how are you good?How are you? I'm doing pretty well
to weigh in myself. I ama mother of three small children. I
have ah did we lose? Ashley? Mother are three small children. I
think she was going to say thatshe would consider buying a gun if she
(22:55):
didn't already have one. Hey,I get it, I get it.
Like I said, personally, it'snot a choice that I have made,
but I certainly understand it. Ihave friends that have guns, and I
if I could put myselves in theshoes of a victim, if someone asked
me, could you pull the trigger? I think the answer is absolutely yes.
(23:15):
Having said that, we live ina country with about three hundred and
thirty three million people and there arealmost four hundred million firearms, so more
than one for every person. SoI'm not sure it's helping anything. All
right, We're not gonna resolve thatissue in the next few minutes, so
we're gonna move on, and whenwe come back, we're gonna hear more
from President Biden. We started inthe four o'clock hour talking about President Biden
(23:38):
and the high stakes interview that hedid today with the ABC's George Stephanopolis in
the hopes of rebuilding momentum and regainingcredibility as a presidential candidate. We're gonna
hear from the President and also hearsome of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app.
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior ondemand from KFI AM six forty.
(24:00):
I'm Phil Schuman in the home stretchsitting in for Tim Conway Junior. Thanks
very much for the opportunity, lookforward to it. Perhaps the next time.
So one of the cool things aboutthe iHeartRadio app, as we've been
mentioning it, is has that microphoneicon that you can click on that and
send a message. We call itthe talk back feature. And tonight,
(24:22):
if you've been with us since thefour o'clock hour, we had some clips
from the exclusive George Stefanopoulos sit downinterview with President Biden. It's going to
air it's an entirety tonight at eightpm Pacific on ABC and their related platforms,
and we asked people what they thought, and here's some of the messages
regarding President Biden. What would Ineed to hear? I would need to
(24:45):
actually see the Department of Justice tapeon the interview where it was declared that
he was unable to stand trial becausethey felt like he was mentally not with
it. And then I'd like tosee a debate with RFK Junior. Yes,
(25:07):
this is David from Southern California.It's past the time for Biden to
do anything. There is nothing hecould say, nothing he could do.
He should just fade away and enjoyhis life when he's got left. The
reason the White House picked Stepanopolis forthis is because he's never going to ask
Biden any hard questions. Probably thehardest question Biden will get is you know
(25:33):
what's his name? Well, well, I wouldn't go that far, but
thanks to those folks for chiming in. As a matter of fact, George
Stefanopolis. Of course, his historyis that he was you know, Democratic
Party operative and advisor to President Clinton, a former communications director, and the
thinking is that he was going tobe friendlier than others perhaps, and that's
(25:55):
why the Biden campaign reached out tohim. So, as I mentioned,
this interview was done earlier tonight onWisconsin where the President was campaigning, and
we have an opportunity to play alittle bit of it. And what I've
heard, the limited amount I've heardso far, is that ste Stephanoppolis did
ask some tough questions. Here's partof that exclusive with ABC News. Seemed
(26:15):
like you were having trouble from thefirst question in, even before he spoke,
well, I just had a badnight. How quickly did it come
to you that you were having thatbad night? Well, Caine is having
a bad night. When I realizedthat even when I was answering a question,
(26:36):
even if I turned to his micoff, he was still shouting and
I'd love to distract me. I'mnot blaming it on that, but I
realized that I just wasn't in control. That was President Biden sitting down with
George Stephanoppolis from ABC News. Again. It's about a fifteen or twenty minute
interview. ABC is apparently scheduled abouta half an hour of primetime tonight eight
(26:57):
pm Pacific, So check it out. I mean, the stakes are are
high, uh, to say theleast. You know, so much discussion
about President Biden and how disappointed hishis supporters were, not just his critics,
but how disappointed his supporters were athis performance in that debate. I
(27:17):
mean I watched it live with anonpartisan group of voters in downtown Los Angeles
and even they were, you know, cringing, And that was that was
the strongest comment that I got,that people who are Biden fans just were
stunned at how poorly he did andhow much he disappointed them. So that's
that's been the big story today.Meantime, you know, President Biden has
(27:40):
insisted that he's staying in the raceand not going anywhere. So coming up
at the top of the hour,young Moe Kelly is joining us live in
studio. Now, Well, youare very kind. Good to see him.
Not young by any objective measure,not even relatively anymore. Thank you,
well, okay, but just tryingto be kind. Hey, it's
(28:00):
great to see you. And itwas so much fun sitting in here.
You know, I've been telling folksI'm a huge talk radio guy. Listen
to you Conway, Cobalt, Shannonand Gary. I mean, you know
handle obviously in the morning, andyou've done all kinds of different shifts here,
know, all those fun folks.What do you have cooking tonight?
Well, Friday, if you didn'tknow, we played name that movie called
(28:22):
Classic in the nine o'clock hour.Okay, we'll play a clip of a
movie. Callers call in and tryto guess the movie the win a prize.
But also we take care of alittle local business before we get there.
We're gonna definitely talk about the Bideninterview. It's already aired on the
East Coast, so we'll play someclips from that. Flock cameras are coming
to California. I just come backfrom South Korea and will allow you on
(28:47):
social The level of surveillance was offputting but something very similar is going to
be done in California now. Anddoes it result in less crime? Well,
it does resu in greater apprehension ofcriminals. Okay, I don't know
if it results in less crime,but that's a good point. Yeah,
And they have those in the millRows Neighborhood Organization put those in yes,
(29:11):
Yes. And Beverly Hills, bythe way, is totally covered with cameras
well, not block cameras, butcity cameras, So I definitely makes a
difference. I think. Yeah.Well, I think if anything, we
were always headed in that direction andit was the next likely step as far
as trying to fight this crime onsome level. So this talk radio thing,
you think it's going to catch on, it will always be around.
(29:33):
It's just a function of whether weget it in our car or somewhere else.
I love it. I mean wecall it audio now because half of
people listen on the app, right, it's audio content. Yeah, And
so are you going to stick withus? So I'd love to look forward
to the next time. Mo Kelly, thanks so much for your time.
Look forward to listening to you whenI'm heading home. So that's going to
do it. Phil Schumann from Foxeleven News in for Tim Conway Junior.
(29:55):
Again, thanks for the opportunity tosit here in the big boy chair behind
the microphones. KFI Conway Show ondemand on the iHeartRadio app. Now you
can always hear us live on KFIAm six forty four to seven pm Monday
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