July 15, 2024 • 29 mins
President Biden’s NBC Interview with Lester Holt is live // Sources say former President Trump is expected at the RNC tonight // Thomas Matthew Crooks, what we know about the Trump shooter // Thomas Matthew Crooks, what we know about the Trump shooter.
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It's KFI AM six forty and you'relistening to The Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. Hey everybody,Neil Savadra in for Tim Conway Junior tonight.
Happy to be with you on amassive news day as information continues to
come in about the assassination attempt onformer president and Republican candidate for President Donald
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J. Trump. Of course,the Republican National Convention is going on tonight
as well. We have President Bidentalking live now in an exclusive interview on
NBC News with Lester Holt, andI'm just going to play just play a
quick cut about this as it pertainsto something people have brought up, and
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that's the fact that previously President Bidenhad made the comment about it's time to
put Trump in the bullseye on thisone. So we'll take a quick listen
to this. Your opponent an existentialthreat. On a call a week ago,
you said it's time to put Trumpin the bullseye. There's some dispute
about the context, but I thinkyou appreciate crosshairs I'm talking focus on.
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Look, the truth of the matterwas that I guess I was talking about
it at the time, was there'svery little focus on Trump. Yeah,
the term is bullseye. It wasa mistake to use I didn't I didn't
say crosshairs, bulls the focus onit, focus on what he's doing,
you know. I know a lotof people have brought this up, and
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I think it's important that Lester Holtasked the question. I think it's important
that the President answered it. Uh, there are a lot of terms that
we use casually, and bullseye isfor focus. I'll get that crosshairs would
be tougher. I agree cross hairswould be tougher to pull back on.
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So I accept that response. Ithink now when things are heated, you
have to be more careful in thepolitical arena as to the words you use.
And as the president of these UnitedStates, I think you have to
be most careful in the terms thatyou use. I think focus was probably
the best word to use in theyou know, in the center of the
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light and whatever it is you're goingto use. I think that would have
been better, especially under the circumstance. But do I think that he was
that President Biden was saying, youknow, to assassinate Trump. I don't
think so. I don't think so. And I think turnaround is fair play.
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There are a lot of things thatTrump has been claimed to have said
that when you actually go and seethem in context, it's not what he
was implying. I don't think forone second that he thinks white supremacists are
fine people. I think that thereare a lot of things that are taken
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out of context or not in thefullness fullness of their context, and I
think it plays both ways. SoI'm I like to look at this stuff
as reasonably as possible. I lookat these things from I try and remove
as much emotion as possible. Ithink it's the best thing to do.
I think we've gotten way too emotionalas a country, and we've gotten too
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far from reason and intellect to lookat things and say, no, I
don't believe that that is the beliefof that individual, especially when they clarify
it. We have to allow peopleto clarify it. Now, when they
stand up and say something like,you know, it's a bummer that Trump,
that they miss Trump, that's youdon't have to parse that to see
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what they're saying. But when itcomes to certain things, I think the
benefit of the doubt is okay,And to look and to parse them.
We also know that and have beentold that Trump is going to speak soon.
We don't know when it may beduring our time here up until seven
o'clock. If not, then wewill hand over the reins as we do
every night on this program too,Moe Kelly and his team, So regardless,
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you will hear it, and youwill hear insights. I'm looking forward
to hearing talk about all this stuffand give his insights and analysis as well,
so I will be listening. Iencourage you to do the same.
All right, let's get some newsnow and we will return. Still much
to get to. I haven't evenbroken down to the information that we do
have about the shooter, Thomas MatthewCrooks. We'll get into that and more
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Biden. Maybe we'll play some ofthat. We're told some more of that,
and we're told that Trump will bespeaking I'm guessing not while we're on
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the air, but while our buddyMo Kelly is going to be on the
air, So they will cover allof that for you. No reason to
go anywhere else. I wanted totalk about the shooter a bit, so
a lot of mysteries still and justa forty eight hours or so after the
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fact, it's still going to becoming out, and of course we're parsing
it along with news and our greathosts as well. Here for sure,
we know that Thomas Matthew Crooks,he was twenty years old, accused of
trying to kill Donald Trump of courseat that campaign rally. Investigators are puzzled
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at this point, or at leastthat's what it seems. We don't know
much that has come out, butthat doesn't mean they don't have the information.
A former classmate, Max Smith,described Crooks as definitely conservative quote unquote
during their school days together, raisingquestions about that was during their school days
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together, and this raises questions aboutthe motive. Now there's other things,
like he gave fifteen dollars to aliberal or democratic charity or something like that
as well. I think people it'sour desire when anything happens that's crazy,
to try and make sense of it, and I don't know that we're going
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to make sense of it anytime soon. The easiest explanation is that the kid
was nuts, something was wrong,and some wire snapped. Now people are
saying that there is no information aboutany health mental health issues. However,
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my understanding as many mental health issuesstart around the age of twenty, maybe
between eighteen and twenty five for youngmales, which will put them in that
category. I'd say it's hard tobelieve that there aren't mental issues to somebody
that would try and assassinate a formpresident. So this guy, Max Smith,
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who went to school with Thomas MatthewCrooks, speaking to the Philadelphia Inquirer,
wondered aloud why someone with conservative leaningswould attempt such an act against a
conservative candidate like Trump, and Ithink we're all asking that question. The
FBI has been very tight lipped aboutCrook's motive since the shooting on Saturday leaves
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different people coming up with different conclusions. One spectator dead obviously and injured two
others, as well as Trump himselfbeing injured in the ear, which I
got to tell you, if you'veseen the schematics, the drawings of the
pitch and turn of his head andthe trajectory of the bullet is scary as
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hell. I mean, you're nottalking about inches, you're talking about minilimeters.
That would have changed the outcome ofSaturday. So Crooks was fatally shot,
as we know now by Secret Serviceagents, and I know people go,
oh, well, okay, theregoes the only person that had the
answers. Damned if you do,and damned if you don't. Some people
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say that it took too long forthem to shoot him, that he was
already in the scope. These arethings that I don't know that we know.
I think we see things that wewonder what was done. We obviously
see the video of people watching andas there being spectators outside of the fence
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area are telling cops and these arelocal law enforcement. Hey there's somebody doing
a bear crawl or whatever up onthat roof and they've got a gun.
We know that, and that wasminutes before. So yes, that causes
concern. But is that area outsideof the secret service area. We don't
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know. I will tell you beingon live is all this was going down
this Saturday, and trying to keepup with all the information. I so
could not believe that it would comefrom a high trajectory because to me,
it's like, of course, ofcourse they are checking all the rooftops.
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I just it wouldn't even hold aplace in my mind. I kept thinking
it's got to be from a lowertrajectory the whole time, because I would
have thought all of that was takenout. I was blown away to see
where that location was. But weknow very little about him and what took
place. Investigators seized several of Cook'selectronic devices in their search for clues.
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But you know, we've dealt withthe encryption scenario before, with shooters and
phones, we'll see if they canbe cracked or the information can be pulled.
They had access to his cell phone, found nothing conclusive apparently. Also,
if the strange thing about this guyis not big on social media,
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which is usually where we get someinsights, I'll give some more background into
the shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks when wereturn. You're listening to Tim Conway Junior
on demand from KFI Am six forty. Hey, everybody, Neil Savedra here
filling in for I used to havea teacher in high school that would pronounced
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both as Neil suh of Adra.Shout out to mister Smith out there,
mister Kevin Smith, mister of Adra, can you please come up? He
didn't speak like a drone. Notthat Kevin Smith. No different Kevin Smith.
You know how you know because ifyou go on social media that Kevin
Smith's handle is that Kevin Smith,not this one. Yeah, look it
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up. I tell no lies.I believe Neil Savandra and for Tim Conway
Junior tonight, I'm happy to bewith you on a heavy news day that
is only going to bring forth aheavy news week. I assure you.
We'll get back into some information thatwe know about the shooter so far,
not a whole lot, but someof it is interesting at least raising an
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eyebrow. But there's some producer Lindsayjust came in here saying there's some breaking
news going on. Uh yeah,So on ABC seven, I'm watching there
is a barricade suspect and they're surroundedby Ellie County swat in commerce and we're
watching for updates. Okay, ifanything happens, please let me know if
we need to break to anything.I appreciate the heads up. Never a
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good situation when you hear those words. Also, Donald Trump is supposed to
be speaking sometime this evening. I'mguessing it's going to come during Mo Kelly's
show later, which is going tobe coming on at seven o'clock, So
stick around for that. I'm surehe has a lot to say about everything
that's going on in the news rightnow as well. So we're talking about
the shooter. We don't know awhole lot about the sh that attempted to
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assassinate former President Donald Trump at thecampaign rally. We know that he was
twenty years old, and we knowthat former classmates have spoken out. We
were talking about Max Smith, oneof them, who described Crooks as definitely
conservative, and he was confused,why someone like that would you do something
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like this. Their school was BethelPark High School near Pittsburgh. FBI investigation
and motive, they're being very tightlipped about this at this point. The
interesting thing is is Crook's electronic deviceswere found, but no clear motive so
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far, and there's no social mediastuff. If you look, he's wearing
a shirt in some of the photoswhere you can see that it is a
group. I think it's a YouTubeshow or something like that, vlog or
whatever you want to call it thatis about guns. But there wasn't a
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whole lot of information, even thoughAgents of Canvas Crook's neighborhood for information,
electronic devices, social media. Asfar as political affiliation, that's going to
go back and forth as well.He donated to a Progressive Political Action Committee
at seventeen, not much, maybefifteen bucks or something. Registered as a
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Republican at eighteen. Not a hugevoting record there, because if he's only
twenty, he couldn't have voted inthe last presidential elections. So not sure
what kind of elections he might havevoted in if any took a US history
class where he often defended conservative views. He has, you know, a
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lot of different varied recollections coming frompeople that went to school with him,
him as a victim of bullying,others as a cond you know, as
kind of nerdy Cook's cook Crooks ratherwas known for his interest in government and
good academic performance. Apparently was waspretty smart when it came to that.
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Again, he was wearing when heshot Trump was wearing a T shirt promoting
this YouTube gun channel was killed bySecret Service after firing at Trump. The
first time I heard the audio,you can hear the firing of his gun
at first, and then you hearthe response fire the Secret Service, and
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you can hear a difference in thecadence probably caliber caliber rather or power possibly
as well, but you can hearthat response afterwards. Authorities are you know,
going to be hands on in thisinvestigation looking how he accessed that rooftop
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and his ammunition purchase as well.Some are saying that he purchased pretty recently,
maybe fifty rounds or more, whichyou know, fifty rounds is not
that much considering I'm trying to thinkwhat, Yeah, I guess what would
you normally get in a Maybe it'syou'd get fifty in a in a case
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or something. I don't know.It's been a long time since I've purchased
any ammunition. And if I'm shooting, it's at a range, and I'm
buying their crappy rounds just to targetshoot. So you're getting buy the one
hundred anyways in a big old bag. As far as his personal and work
background, he graduated high school.In twenty twenty two. He appeared in
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a video ad for Blackrock. Doyou know what black rock is? Krozier,
I'm trying to it sounds vaguely familiarto me, but nothing comes to
mind as to what that might be. But he was apparently in a video
ad for black Rock, worked asa dietary aid at a local nursing home,
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has a clean background check. It'san American multinational investment company. Huh.
And he's in an ad huh.Yeah, huh, that's an asset
company. Yeah, you got anyany with him? You got anything tied
with him? Not myself ever,do an ad for him? Not for
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me? Likely story trouble maker.Far as you know, online predat presence
and motives is the thing that reallyis where we get stuck with this guy
not a frequent social media user,which really doesn't fit. I know,
you look at this guy kind ofgangly, long scraggly hair, the glasses
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kind of mousey or meek looking,and you think, gosh, maybe this
guy was picked on or what haveyou. But really, if if you're
bullied a lot, which could bethe case, it's weird to have that
kind of academic background. It seemslike he was a good student, and
like you think that it would messwith your grades, but I don't know,
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you know, working at a localnursery home, nursing home, rather
clean background check doesn't really fit everythingthere. The lack of social media also
is a curiosity. No online postsor publications revealing motives or political declarations found,
and usually when somebody has a beefof some kind or they're looking at
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attempting something like this, I mean, to try and take out a former
president of the United States. Yougot to imagine that planned. Yeah,
there's got to be some planning inthere, but I don't know if it
was incredibly well planned, I couldsee it being likely that he bought amo,
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got the gun, said I'm gonnago out there look for a place
to shoot. Maybe even drove aroundand said maybe I'll try there. It
doesn't look like anybody's really covering that. It's outside of what I saw to
be the perimeter of the chain linkfence, so you know that type of
thing. But I don't know thathe was doing you know, graphs and
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charts of that particular location, unlesshe has some sort of work ties there
or knew somebody or something. Butwe still haven't found that out. Much
more to come, of course,you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM sixty, KFI AMsix forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You know what back in the dayswith the car is that mo Kelly
don't just wave and leave. MollKelly's going to be coming up at seven.
I'm looking forward to his analysis andinsights on all that's taken place.
A big news day and we're justseeing that it looks like Trump has arrived
on site at the Republican National Convention, so there's going to be a ton
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of stuff opening up in the seveno'clock hours. We hand things over to
mow. He's suspected or expected ratherto speak, right, he's supposed to
speak. I assume he's going toformally and officially announce JD. Vance as
the other part of the Trump Vanceticket will be remarks from the former president,
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and then the vice presidential candidate willalso speak. We'll be carrying both
portions of that message live here onKFI AM six forty. Holy smokes,
I just saw Sean Hannity. Whendid he get so gray? Happened overnight?
Did it? Really? No?But relatively quickly in the past five
years of so well, because hewas here not too long ago. I
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met him and he to the office. Yeah. Wow, we got a
picture of that day. As amatter of fact, it's like Robin and
Kevin Legrett. Yeah, I don'tremember that it was. I just glanced
up and thought, holy heck,good on him, handsome devil. Really
uh so Saturday? Yeah, wherewere you? What were you doing?
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I was driving. I was listeningactually to the address on news Max because
I can listen by the tune insure you can listen to everything. And
when it happened, I instantaneously thought, gunshots. Listening just to just the
audio feed. The sound was unmistakablewatching it on TV, it has a
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different type of processing. But whenI'm in the maybe because I'm working in
radio and you're very you listen differently. You're used to carry differently. Yeah,
so the subtlety of sound makes abig difference when you're just in the
car and you're focusing almost literally lookingat the radio and you kind of stop.
It's like, wait a minute,those are gunshots. And then you
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could pick up some of the openmics, the live mics. You could
hear the Secret Service talking as faras their feed and communication, and then
I had to pull over. It'slike something's happening. You didn't know what,
but you knew something was happening.So it's interesting because being here in
studio live while it was going on, we did not have it up.
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It's on the TVs here in thestudio, of which we have seven,
so there's a lot going on.And I'm doing the Food show, of
course, so I'm doing the ForkReport, and I have a guest in
for a more restaurant. It's anew French restaurant about six and a half
months old in West Hollywood. Theybrought in a beautiful spread for Best Deal
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Day, and I saw the facechange and one of my guess who's sitting
where MO is right now? He'ssitting in position to second host position,
and so she had a view oftwo TVs. I didn't at the time
because I was facing her, andher eyes widened and she pointed and I
looked up, and then we switchedimmediately to what was going on. And
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it was weird because we didn't havethe audio up in here. But also
when I was in the car,I get news alerts, and the first
alerts which came in was former PresidentTrump was rushed from the stage. Doesn't
give you any context. You don'tknow why he was rushed from the stage.
The CNN I don't remember. Idon't remember how I stepped on their
crank a little bit like saying thathe tripped or something something like that.
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Yet but it was it was nonspecific. I don't know what that.
You've got cameras on that there.I don't know how you could have thought
that. And I'm listening, it'slike, wait a minute, I thought
I heard gunshots, and then Iget a news report saying he was rushed
from the stage, not that gunshotscame out or there was any type of
disturbance, So I had to pullover and just wait until I could get
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some more concrete information. And ittook about ten to fifteen minutes, and
then it started coming into focus thatsomething happened and there was an incident.
First they were saying it was possiblyfireworks. People did not run, so
they weren't exactly sure what they heard, and then it became more clear that
someone had been shot, including thepresident. Wow. That was another thing.
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Is that very early on, I'mlike, regardless of the trajectory,
which I was trying to figure outfrom just seeing the angles that I could
see, I thought it was lowerand coming low. I didn't reverse that
angle and think it would have comefrom a high point because I'm like,
there's no way they're not going tohave a high point, and I'm listening.
I thought it would have been towardthe president and the you know,
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the grand stand behind him, whenit was actually stage left. Yes,
so that I didn't know. Wedidn't know either yet at the time,
so you start trying to put thosepieces together, and all I kept thinking
was there is no way if thisis gunfire, even if it missed the
President, that someone didn't get shot, correct, Yeah, and so we
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heard that later. Now, ofcourse there was some speculation and people had
said, hey, we saw bodiescarried out or people carried out early on,
but a lot of that early onwas the belief that that was the
shooter. A lot of people say, oh, the shooter was carried out,
he's dead. So we talked aboutthat pretty early on before it was
official. I said, there isbelief that the shooter is down and deceased,
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as we were talking with with expertsin the field as well. So
a pretty intense day, certainly,you know. I was looking forward to
and some duck breast and then itchanged pivoted on a dime. But that
is one of those things where wewill remember as to where we were at
the time. There is a lotof vomit that comes afterwards, with the
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misinformation and just tons of information thatis not seated in context yet or not
confirmed or whatever. So I'm sureyou know whittling through that has been part
of your studies since Saturday. Ohabsolutely. And I was admonishing friends,
family followers, slow down, slowdown. Yes, there are a ton
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of legitimate questions and it is fairto demand answers to those legitimate questions,
but don't use your imagination and yourpolitical worldview to fill in those blanks before
we have any real information. Yeah, it's not news mad libs. Right.
You remember that as a kid,those were the best advert the Scholastic
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book club or whatever would come throughand you could buy those at school or
whatever it was, and you fillin the blanks and that happens, and
you know it. I will bethe first to say, you know,
I'm not a journalist. I'm atalk show host, and I'm allowed to
speculate. So I speculated on thingsthat I had questions about live as things
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were going on. But people said, how come you didn't mention this and
mention that. I said, therewere still things that I didn't feel strong
enough about to bring in that tome, we're just going to muddy things
up they weren't going to do rightnow. You're going to hear me repeat
what I see over and over untilyou know there's more information. There's a
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rule in that time period, anythingthat you introduced either is going to clarify
or for the cloud. And whenyou're sitting in that chair, you have
to be very clear that whatever youare introducing to the conversation brings clarity,
doesn't for the convolute it. Ohyeah, And even trying to lip read
because keep in mind, I can'tgo anywhere. I can't leave this seat
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at the time, couldn't go tothe bathroom. He couldn't look stuff up
in the same way or in thesame sense that I could on other days
because we weren't we called off allspots anything, so we would go to
the news a little bit and I'dlook stuff whatever. So I'm trying to
lip read. And I said,it looks like fight, but it also
looks like f it. It couldhave been, I thought the first time
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I saw it, it looked likef bomb. Yeah, that's what I
thought. And then I looked atit a couple times and I said,
well, it almost looks like he'ssaying, you know, the F word
it And then I said, itcould be a fight, you know.
So you're processing all these different thingsas you're seeing it. So looking forward
to hearing you tonight. I knowyou're probably champing at the bit on all
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this information since Saturday as your firstturn it bat here, but I will
be listening moments from now as MokeKelly comes along with later, so go
nowhere. Nice to see you.Who do see man? All right?
Moll Kelly coming up with later,so go nowhere. Thanks to the team
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and to Lindsey and producer Bellio atall, Elmer everyone, thank you so
much and thanks for hanging out.You've got mo Kelly coming up next.
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the iHeartRadio app. Hey everybody,Neil Savadra in for Tim Conway Junior tonight.
Happy to be with you on amassive news day as information continues to
come in about the assassination attempt onformer president and Republican candidate for President Donald
(00:26):
J. Trump. Of course,the Republican National Convention is going on tonight
as well. We have President Bidentalking live now in an exclusive interview on
NBC News with Lester Holt, andI'm just going to play just play a
quick cut about this as it pertainsto something people have brought up, and
(00:48):
that's the fact that previously President Bidenhad made the comment about it's time to
put Trump in the bullseye on thisone. So we'll take a quick listen
to this. Your opponent an existentialthreat. On a call a week ago,
you said it's time to put Trumpin the bullseye. There's some dispute
about the context, but I thinkyou appreciate crosshairs I'm talking focus on.
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Look, the truth of the matterwas that I guess I was talking about
it at the time, was there'svery little focus on Trump. Yeah,
the term is bullseye. It wasa mistake to use I didn't I didn't
say crosshairs, bulls the focus onit, focus on what he's doing,
you know. I know a lotof people have brought this up, and
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I think it's important that Lester Holtasked the question. I think it's important
that the President answered it. Uh, there are a lot of terms that
we use casually, and bullseye isfor focus. I'll get that crosshairs would
be tougher. I agree cross hairswould be tougher to pull back on.
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So I accept that response. Ithink now when things are heated, you
have to be more careful in thepolitical arena as to the words you use.
And as the president of these UnitedStates, I think you have to
be most careful in the terms thatyou use. I think focus was probably
the best word to use in theyou know, in the center of the
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light and whatever it is you're goingto use. I think that would have
been better, especially under the circumstance. But do I think that he was
that President Biden was saying, youknow, to assassinate Trump. I don't
think so. I don't think so. And I think turnaround is fair play.
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There are a lot of things thatTrump has been claimed to have said
that when you actually go and seethem in context, it's not what he
was implying. I don't think forone second that he thinks white supremacists are
fine people. I think that thereare a lot of things that are taken
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out of context or not in thefullness fullness of their context, and I
think it plays both ways. SoI'm I like to look at this stuff
as reasonably as possible. I lookat these things from I try and remove
as much emotion as possible. Ithink it's the best thing to do.
I think we've gotten way too emotionalas a country, and we've gotten too
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far from reason and intellect to lookat things and say, no, I
don't believe that that is the beliefof that individual, especially when they clarify
it. We have to allow peopleto clarify it. Now, when they
stand up and say something like,you know, it's a bummer that Trump,
that they miss Trump, that's youdon't have to parse that to see
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what they're saying. But when itcomes to certain things, I think the
benefit of the doubt is okay,And to look and to parse them.
We also know that and have beentold that Trump is going to speak soon.
We don't know when it may beduring our time here up until seven
o'clock. If not, then wewill hand over the reins as we do
every night on this program too,Moe Kelly and his team, So regardless,
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you will hear it, and youwill hear insights. I'm looking forward
to hearing talk about all this stuffand give his insights and analysis as well,
so I will be listening. Iencourage you to do the same.
All right, let's get some newsnow and we will return. Still much
to get to. I haven't evenbroken down to the information that we do
have about the shooter, Thomas MatthewCrooks. We'll get into that and more
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Biden. Maybe we'll play some ofthat. We're told some more of that,
and we're told that Trump will bespeaking I'm guessing not while we're on
(05:50):
the air, but while our buddyMo Kelly is going to be on the
air, So they will cover allof that for you. No reason to
go anywhere else. I wanted totalk about the shooter a bit, so
a lot of mysteries still and justa forty eight hours or so after the
(06:11):
fact, it's still going to becoming out, and of course we're parsing
it along with news and our greathosts as well. Here for sure,
we know that Thomas Matthew Crooks,he was twenty years old, accused of
trying to kill Donald Trump of courseat that campaign rally. Investigators are puzzled
(06:33):
at this point, or at leastthat's what it seems. We don't know
much that has come out, butthat doesn't mean they don't have the information.
A former classmate, Max Smith,described Crooks as definitely conservative quote unquote
during their school days together, raisingquestions about that was during their school days
(06:54):
together, and this raises questions aboutthe motive. Now there's other things,
like he gave fifteen dollars to aliberal or democratic charity or something like that
as well. I think people it'sour desire when anything happens that's crazy,
to try and make sense of it, and I don't know that we're going
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to make sense of it anytime soon. The easiest explanation is that the kid
was nuts, something was wrong,and some wire snapped. Now people are
saying that there is no information aboutany health mental health issues. However,
(07:38):
my understanding as many mental health issuesstart around the age of twenty, maybe
between eighteen and twenty five for youngmales, which will put them in that
category. I'd say it's hard tobelieve that there aren't mental issues to somebody
that would try and assassinate a formpresident. So this guy, Max Smith,
(08:03):
who went to school with Thomas MatthewCrooks, speaking to the Philadelphia Inquirer,
wondered aloud why someone with conservative leaningswould attempt such an act against a
conservative candidate like Trump, and Ithink we're all asking that question. The
FBI has been very tight lipped aboutCrook's motive since the shooting on Saturday leaves
(08:26):
different people coming up with different conclusions. One spectator dead obviously and injured two
others, as well as Trump himselfbeing injured in the ear, which I
got to tell you, if you'veseen the schematics, the drawings of the
pitch and turn of his head andthe trajectory of the bullet is scary as
(08:50):
hell. I mean, you're nottalking about inches, you're talking about minilimeters.
That would have changed the outcome ofSaturday. So Crooks was fatally shot,
as we know now by Secret Serviceagents, and I know people go,
oh, well, okay, theregoes the only person that had the
answers. Damned if you do,and damned if you don't. Some people
(09:13):
say that it took too long forthem to shoot him, that he was
already in the scope. These arethings that I don't know that we know.
I think we see things that wewonder what was done. We obviously
see the video of people watching andas there being spectators outside of the fence
(09:33):
area are telling cops and these arelocal law enforcement. Hey there's somebody doing
a bear crawl or whatever up onthat roof and they've got a gun.
We know that, and that wasminutes before. So yes, that causes
concern. But is that area outsideof the secret service area. We don't
(09:54):
know. I will tell you beingon live is all this was going down
this Saturday, and trying to keepup with all the information. I so
could not believe that it would comefrom a high trajectory because to me,
it's like, of course, ofcourse they are checking all the rooftops.
(10:16):
I just it wouldn't even hold aplace in my mind. I kept thinking
it's got to be from a lowertrajectory the whole time, because I would
have thought all of that was takenout. I was blown away to see
where that location was. But weknow very little about him and what took
place. Investigators seized several of Cook'selectronic devices in their search for clues.
(10:43):
But you know, we've dealt withthe encryption scenario before, with shooters and
phones, we'll see if they canbe cracked or the information can be pulled.
They had access to his cell phone, found nothing conclusive apparently. Also,
if the strange thing about this guyis not big on social media,
(11:05):
which is usually where we get someinsights, I'll give some more background into
the shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks when wereturn. You're listening to Tim Conway Junior
on demand from KFI Am six forty. Hey, everybody, Neil Savedra here
filling in for I used to havea teacher in high school that would pronounced
(11:28):
both as Neil suh of Adra.Shout out to mister Smith out there,
mister Kevin Smith, mister of Adra, can you please come up? He
didn't speak like a drone. Notthat Kevin Smith. No different Kevin Smith.
You know how you know because ifyou go on social media that Kevin
Smith's handle is that Kevin Smith,not this one. Yeah, look it
(11:54):
up. I tell no lies.I believe Neil Savandra and for Tim Conway
Junior tonight, I'm happy to bewith you on a heavy news day that
is only going to bring forth aheavy news week. I assure you.
We'll get back into some information thatwe know about the shooter so far,
not a whole lot, but someof it is interesting at least raising an
(12:15):
eyebrow. But there's some producer Lindsayjust came in here saying there's some breaking
news going on. Uh yeah,So on ABC seven, I'm watching there
is a barricade suspect and they're surroundedby Ellie County swat in commerce and we're
watching for updates. Okay, ifanything happens, please let me know if
we need to break to anything.I appreciate the heads up. Never a
(12:37):
good situation when you hear those words. Also, Donald Trump is supposed to
be speaking sometime this evening. I'mguessing it's going to come during Mo Kelly's
show later, which is going tobe coming on at seven o'clock, So
stick around for that. I'm surehe has a lot to say about everything
that's going on in the news rightnow as well. So we're talking about
the shooter. We don't know awhole lot about the sh that attempted to
(13:01):
assassinate former President Donald Trump at thecampaign rally. We know that he was
twenty years old, and we knowthat former classmates have spoken out. We
were talking about Max Smith, oneof them, who described Crooks as definitely
conservative, and he was confused,why someone like that would you do something
(13:22):
like this. Their school was BethelPark High School near Pittsburgh. FBI investigation
and motive, they're being very tightlipped about this at this point. The
interesting thing is is Crook's electronic deviceswere found, but no clear motive so
(13:43):
far, and there's no social mediastuff. If you look, he's wearing
a shirt in some of the photoswhere you can see that it is a
group. I think it's a YouTubeshow or something like that, vlog or
whatever you want to call it thatis about guns. But there wasn't a
(14:07):
whole lot of information, even thoughAgents of Canvas Crook's neighborhood for information,
electronic devices, social media. Asfar as political affiliation, that's going to
go back and forth as well.He donated to a Progressive Political Action Committee
at seventeen, not much, maybefifteen bucks or something. Registered as a
(14:30):
Republican at eighteen. Not a hugevoting record there, because if he's only
twenty, he couldn't have voted inthe last presidential elections. So not sure
what kind of elections he might havevoted in if any took a US history
class where he often defended conservative views. He has, you know, a
(14:54):
lot of different varied recollections coming frompeople that went to school with him,
him as a victim of bullying,others as a cond you know, as
kind of nerdy Cook's cook Crooks ratherwas known for his interest in government and
good academic performance. Apparently was waspretty smart when it came to that.
(15:18):
Again, he was wearing when heshot Trump was wearing a T shirt promoting
this YouTube gun channel was killed bySecret Service after firing at Trump. The
first time I heard the audio,you can hear the firing of his gun
at first, and then you hearthe response fire the Secret Service, and
(15:39):
you can hear a difference in thecadence probably caliber caliber rather or power possibly
as well, but you can hearthat response afterwards. Authorities are you know,
going to be hands on in thisinvestigation looking how he accessed that rooftop
(16:00):
and his ammunition purchase as well.Some are saying that he purchased pretty recently,
maybe fifty rounds or more, whichyou know, fifty rounds is not
that much considering I'm trying to thinkwhat, Yeah, I guess what would
you normally get in a Maybe it'syou'd get fifty in a in a case
(16:23):
or something. I don't know.It's been a long time since I've purchased
any ammunition. And if I'm shooting, it's at a range, and I'm
buying their crappy rounds just to targetshoot. So you're getting buy the one
hundred anyways in a big old bag. As far as his personal and work
background, he graduated high school.In twenty twenty two. He appeared in
(16:45):
a video ad for Blackrock. Doyou know what black rock is? Krozier,
I'm trying to it sounds vaguely familiarto me, but nothing comes to
mind as to what that might be. But he was apparently in a video
ad for black Rock, worked asa dietary aid at a local nursing home,
(17:08):
has a clean background check. It'san American multinational investment company. Huh.
And he's in an ad huh.Yeah, huh, that's an asset
company. Yeah, you got anyany with him? You got anything tied
with him? Not myself ever,do an ad for him? Not for
(17:30):
me? Likely story trouble maker.Far as you know, online predat presence
and motives is the thing that reallyis where we get stuck with this guy
not a frequent social media user,which really doesn't fit. I know,
you look at this guy kind ofgangly, long scraggly hair, the glasses
(17:51):
kind of mousey or meek looking,and you think, gosh, maybe this
guy was picked on or what haveyou. But really, if if you're
bullied a lot, which could bethe case, it's weird to have that
kind of academic background. It seemslike he was a good student, and
like you think that it would messwith your grades, but I don't know,
(18:14):
you know, working at a localnursery home, nursing home, rather
clean background check doesn't really fit everythingthere. The lack of social media also
is a curiosity. No online postsor publications revealing motives or political declarations found,
and usually when somebody has a beefof some kind or they're looking at
(18:40):
attempting something like this, I mean, to try and take out a former
president of the United States. Yougot to imagine that planned. Yeah,
there's got to be some planning inthere, but I don't know if it
was incredibly well planned, I couldsee it being likely that he bought amo,
(19:04):
got the gun, said I'm gonnago out there look for a place
to shoot. Maybe even drove aroundand said maybe I'll try there. It
doesn't look like anybody's really covering that. It's outside of what I saw to
be the perimeter of the chain linkfence, so you know that type of
thing. But I don't know thathe was doing you know, graphs and
(19:29):
charts of that particular location, unlesshe has some sort of work ties there
or knew somebody or something. Butwe still haven't found that out. Much
more to come, of course,you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM sixty, KFI AMsix forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
(19:53):
You know what back in the dayswith the car is that mo Kelly
don't just wave and leave. MollKelly's going to be coming up at seven.
I'm looking forward to his analysis andinsights on all that's taken place.
A big news day and we're justseeing that it looks like Trump has arrived
on site at the Republican National Convention, so there's going to be a ton
(20:17):
of stuff opening up in the seveno'clock hours. We hand things over to
mow. He's suspected or expected ratherto speak, right, he's supposed to
speak. I assume he's going toformally and officially announce JD. Vance as
the other part of the Trump Vanceticket will be remarks from the former president,
(20:45):
and then the vice presidential candidate willalso speak. We'll be carrying both
portions of that message live here onKFI AM six forty. Holy smokes,
I just saw Sean Hannity. Whendid he get so gray? Happened overnight?
Did it? Really? No?But relatively quickly in the past five
years of so well, because hewas here not too long ago. I
(21:08):
met him and he to the office. Yeah. Wow, we got a
picture of that day. As amatter of fact, it's like Robin and
Kevin Legrett. Yeah, I don'tremember that it was. I just glanced
up and thought, holy heck,good on him, handsome devil. Really
uh so Saturday? Yeah, wherewere you? What were you doing?
(21:32):
I was driving. I was listeningactually to the address on news Max because
I can listen by the tune insure you can listen to everything. And
when it happened, I instantaneously thought, gunshots. Listening just to just the
audio feed. The sound was unmistakablewatching it on TV, it has a
(21:56):
different type of processing. But whenI'm in the maybe because I'm working in
radio and you're very you listen differently. You're used to carry differently. Yeah,
so the subtlety of sound makes abig difference when you're just in the
car and you're focusing almost literally lookingat the radio and you kind of stop.
It's like, wait a minute,those are gunshots. And then you
(22:18):
could pick up some of the openmics, the live mics. You could
hear the Secret Service talking as faras their feed and communication, and then
I had to pull over. It'slike something's happening. You didn't know what,
but you knew something was happening.So it's interesting because being here in
studio live while it was going on, we did not have it up.
(22:42):
It's on the TVs here in thestudio, of which we have seven,
so there's a lot going on.And I'm doing the Food show, of
course, so I'm doing the ForkReport, and I have a guest in
for a more restaurant. It's anew French restaurant about six and a half
months old in West Hollywood. Theybrought in a beautiful spread for Best Deal
(23:06):
Day, and I saw the facechange and one of my guess who's sitting
where MO is right now? He'ssitting in position to second host position,
and so she had a view oftwo TVs. I didn't at the time
because I was facing her, andher eyes widened and she pointed and I
looked up, and then we switchedimmediately to what was going on. And
(23:33):
it was weird because we didn't havethe audio up in here. But also
when I was in the car,I get news alerts, and the first
alerts which came in was former PresidentTrump was rushed from the stage. Doesn't
give you any context. You don'tknow why he was rushed from the stage.
The CNN I don't remember. Idon't remember how I stepped on their
crank a little bit like saying thathe tripped or something something like that.
(23:56):
Yet but it was it was nonspecific. I don't know what that.
You've got cameras on that there.I don't know how you could have thought
that. And I'm listening, it'slike, wait a minute, I thought
I heard gunshots, and then Iget a news report saying he was rushed
from the stage, not that gunshotscame out or there was any type of
disturbance, So I had to pullover and just wait until I could get
(24:17):
some more concrete information. And ittook about ten to fifteen minutes, and
then it started coming into focus thatsomething happened and there was an incident.
First they were saying it was possiblyfireworks. People did not run, so
they weren't exactly sure what they heard, and then it became more clear that
someone had been shot, including thepresident. Wow. That was another thing.
(24:40):
Is that very early on, I'mlike, regardless of the trajectory,
which I was trying to figure outfrom just seeing the angles that I could
see, I thought it was lowerand coming low. I didn't reverse that
angle and think it would have comefrom a high point because I'm like,
there's no way they're not going tohave a high point, and I'm listening.
I thought it would have been towardthe president and the you know,
(25:00):
the grand stand behind him, whenit was actually stage left. Yes,
so that I didn't know. Wedidn't know either yet at the time,
so you start trying to put thosepieces together, and all I kept thinking
was there is no way if thisis gunfire, even if it missed the
President, that someone didn't get shot, correct, Yeah, and so we
(25:23):
heard that later. Now, ofcourse there was some speculation and people had
said, hey, we saw bodiescarried out or people carried out early on,
but a lot of that early onwas the belief that that was the
shooter. A lot of people say, oh, the shooter was carried out,
he's dead. So we talked aboutthat pretty early on before it was
official. I said, there isbelief that the shooter is down and deceased,
(25:48):
as we were talking with with expertsin the field as well. So
a pretty intense day, certainly,you know. I was looking forward to
and some duck breast and then itchanged pivoted on a dime. But that
is one of those things where wewill remember as to where we were at
the time. There is a lotof vomit that comes afterwards, with the
(26:15):
misinformation and just tons of information thatis not seated in context yet or not
confirmed or whatever. So I'm sureyou know whittling through that has been part
of your studies since Saturday. Ohabsolutely. And I was admonishing friends,
family followers, slow down, slowdown. Yes, there are a ton
(26:37):
of legitimate questions and it is fairto demand answers to those legitimate questions,
but don't use your imagination and yourpolitical worldview to fill in those blanks before
we have any real information. Yeah, it's not news mad libs. Right.
You remember that as a kid,those were the best advert the Scholastic
(27:00):
book club or whatever would come throughand you could buy those at school or
whatever it was, and you fillin the blanks and that happens, and
you know it. I will bethe first to say, you know,
I'm not a journalist. I'm atalk show host, and I'm allowed to
speculate. So I speculated on thingsthat I had questions about live as things
(27:21):
were going on. But people said, how come you didn't mention this and
mention that. I said, therewere still things that I didn't feel strong
enough about to bring in that tome, we're just going to muddy things
up they weren't going to do rightnow. You're going to hear me repeat
what I see over and over untilyou know there's more information. There's a
(27:44):
rule in that time period, anythingthat you introduced either is going to clarify
or for the cloud. And whenyou're sitting in that chair, you have
to be very clear that whatever youare introducing to the conversation brings clarity,
doesn't for the convolute it. Ohyeah, And even trying to lip read
because keep in mind, I can'tgo anywhere. I can't leave this seat
(28:06):
at the time, couldn't go tothe bathroom. He couldn't look stuff up
in the same way or in thesame sense that I could on other days
because we weren't we called off allspots anything, so we would go to
the news a little bit and I'dlook stuff whatever. So I'm trying to
lip read. And I said,it looks like fight, but it also
looks like f it. It couldhave been, I thought the first time
(28:27):
I saw it, it looked likef bomb. Yeah, that's what I
thought. And then I looked atit a couple times and I said,
well, it almost looks like he'ssaying, you know, the F word
it And then I said, itcould be a fight, you know.
So you're processing all these different thingsas you're seeing it. So looking forward
to hearing you tonight. I knowyou're probably champing at the bit on all
(28:51):
this information since Saturday as your firstturn it bat here, but I will
be listening moments from now as MokeKelly comes along with later, so go
nowhere. Nice to see you.Who do see man? All right?
Moll Kelly coming up with later,so go nowhere. Thanks to the team
(29:11):
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much and thanks for hanging out.You've got mo Kelly coming up next.
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