August 30, 2024 • 32 mins
Blake Troli // Missing Redlands couple believed to be dead, suspect arrested after SWAT operation at nudist ranch // The Maria’s are upstairs on ALT // Recap on what it was like to watch the missing Redlands couple standoff play out // Elex Michaelson ((CALLING HOTLINE)) Anchor: @foxla news weeknights 5, 6, & 10PM; Host of CA’s only statewide political show “The Issue Is:” @Elex_Michaelson // Tribute to the founder of CSPAN founder, Brian Lamb
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's k IF.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty and you're listening to The Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
It is just the ramp up to a great Labor
Day weekend on The Conway Show. Mark Thompson here for Tim,
got the whole crew, though, Krozer's here, Lindsey's ears to
Foosh Angel and you and we will not disappoint I
won't permit it. I have one story here at least
that you won't hear anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah. Plus there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Of information and takes that you'll hear here that you
likely will not hear anywhere else set in the bar.
I am, and I'm thinking we're going to clear it
without any sort of issue. First, I want to follow
up on a story that was breaking yesterday. Now, the
missing person's part of the story wasn't breaking yesterday. The
couple in Redlands. They were missing since over the weekend.
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Last time they were seen was Saturday morning, and they're communications.
I think Sunday was sort of the official start of
the search for.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
This missing couple.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And as we have noted along the way here, it's
at a newdist ranch in Redlands, and we're not a
nudist ranch. I don't know that we would have been
talking about this story though, with the frequency that we've
been talking about it. But anyway, it was a newdist ranche,
and it is a newdist ranch in Redlands, and Blake
Trolley is there for us. As I was saying, yesterday,
at this very time, they began to bring those swap
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vehicles in and essentially demolish the house right next door
to where the couple lived. And we were at that
point just kind of speculating as to why they were
going after that house. Now we can fill in a
lot of these blanks, and Blake is here to do
that high Blake.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, hey, Mark, And so really, I guess the best
place to begin with this whole thing is that police
really had a major update in their investigation yesterday when
they were on the property of that nudist ranch. They
were going door to door they're looking for information, at
which point somebody on that property tells investigators like, hey,
the person who killed these people lives on site. And
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that's when this person tips them off to Michael Sparks.
This is the next door neighbor of the Minards. So
police go over to Michael Sparks's home, they attempt to
make contact with him several times. The reason they say
they brought in that equipment is because after several times
trying to make contact with him and thinking that he
was in fact inside the home, they were unable to
make contact with him. That's when you saw that swat
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vehicle that was brought in from Riverside County. Keep in
mind this property, it's in Redlands, but it's in a
really weird area. It's in a canyon that many parts
of are in fact in Riverside County. Anyways, they bring
in that Riverside County swat vehicle, they're able to ram
into the home and then deploy cameras looking for this guy.
This started yesterday afternoon. The guy wasn't found until about
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nine to thirty. Sparks was located. And the way that
police described it to us this morning is they said
that he was found underneath the home, at which point
a reporter had said that she heard that the guy
maybe had some sort of tunnel system underneath his home.
Police were unable to confirm that, just saying that he
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was underneath his home. We were told this morning you
talk about that vehicle that was brought in.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
We were told this morning that the house.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Was left in such a disarray that police really didn't
feel safe just walking on sites, so they brought inspectors
out to make sure the property was going to be
accessible not only for officers but also for cadaver dogs.
So cadaver dogs were on the property today. And the
latest update that we have we're seeing some reports we've
not been able to confirm these, but that human remains
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were in fact found. What we did confirm earlier was
that the cadaver dogs had detected human remains.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Wow, it felt as though it was a weird when
we saw the smaller vehicle sink into what is clearly
some kind of basement area. I mean I say clearly
because everything else was sort of right there at street level.
It had this weird feeling as though, yeah, nothing good
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was going to be found after that.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, and police didn't talk about this, but you know,
they maybe had reason to believe that this house had
some really weird circumstances to it, maybe some features to
it that the guy you know intentionally installed that would
have made their job tougher, and that might maybe why
they took the approach.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
H actually he took actee.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you think it was so there you think or
you've heard maybe like sort of booby traps throughout the
house type thing, or I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm just speculating, but you know, again there is that,
you know, you saw that that vehicle sync and then
you had people asking, I, you know, does this guy
have some sort of tunnel system underneath the home? So
I think police really just didn't know what they were
dealing with. And you know, just on a human front
mark driving out to this out to this ranch. Again,
it's on a dirt road, it's in a very deserty area.
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On the way down, one of the first things I
noticed is that there were donkey crossing signs, which you
almost never see, and I actually saw don't take all
my way back out.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I've never seen one anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I saw three actually on my way out.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
So real deserty landscape that this thing sits on and
really in the middle of nowhere. One of the things
that I want to play this is some compelling audio.
This is Irene Engraft and she actually lives in the neighborhood.
She says she's the one who called police. Now you
said Sunday was the day that investigators really started looking
for these people as missing.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
This woman says that they went over to the house,
her and her husband. They realized these people weren't there.
They thought they maybe were at church. So she says,
her and her husband go to church, they don't see
the couple there. They go back to the home and
here's where we're at.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
So we went in and that's when I saw Stephanie's
purse there and John called her phone and when it rang,
it was right by her chair where she sits, and
the computer was on and Dan always sit there and
did computer play, listened to things. So I walked over
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there and there laid his folk and that I turned
it over had his name on him, and it was off.
So I said to John, I will go to the bedroom.
See went in there and the bed was made, nothing
was disturbed. Went in the bathroom to see if there
was any blood or anything. Nothing there. Cuddles wasn't in
his hid his little bed. So we just locked up,
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called line one one, and then I started calling hospitals
because they had Kieser insurance. And of course, of course
what I called at first didn't know that they didn't
have any idea or anything on him. So it really
didn't do us any good. You know, they wouldn't give
us any information.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
What was the relationship like with this suspect.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Well, if they were neighbors, and I'm sure they've had
a few words here and there. But he was a loner,
so he never really was much. He didn't communicate with
people here in the park, but he would come down
to the clubhouse so that where we have a first
aid and maybe have a few drinks and stuff. But
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he just was a.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Loner before that Mark, she actually described him as the
kind of guy you only got a couple of words
out of out of time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wow, I tell you that those neighbors are salt of
the earth. I mean, to go in to know so
much about your neighbors, to identify that the cell phones
are still there, to look for the dog, identify the
fact that the dog wasn't there, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean she said that, yeah, they had a key.
They had a key to the property. That's how they
got on.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I mean, so, on the one hand, you have a
neighbor who now is being suspected of offering them, who
they barely knew, and maybe they got into some dust
steps with and then you have these concerned neighbors who
have the key to their place. I mean I could
be I think I could be dead for eighteen months
before any of my neighbors would know. I mean it
just that's a really great pair of neighbors who go
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in there and inspected the house. Anyway, So to the
point at the end of this week where they've been searching,
we end up with this, these swat vehicles revealing what
is likely the scene of a murder.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Right, Yeah, what's interesting is this morning I had asked, so,
does it appear that the murder actually took place here
at the newdest ranch? And I thought was what was
interesting is they were unable to confirm exactly where it happened.
And again I asked that because you heard her description there,
it doesn't sound like it happened inside the Menard's home.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And keep in mind their car.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Was found near their property with the keys inside, so
it doesn't appear that they drove off the property. So
when I asked police, did it happen here on the property?
That was something that they were unable to confirm this morning.
So I'm just gonna say that I think it likely
happened there. I guess we'll have to see where exactly
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on the property it happened.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Did it happen at this suspect's home?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I can't wait to hear what the motive was and
more about this, just because it's so bizarre and sad.
You know, couple in their seventies, this guy Michael Sparks
who lived next door sixty two, and now his story
will be hopefully fleshed out and we'll learn more good stuff.
Thanks so much for checking in Blake with the grim
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end of this, and for your.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Donkey spotting abilities.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You'll be handsomely rewarded, all right, Thanks Spark, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Donkey crossing signs. Wow, that is a brand new one.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
I think the fact that it's that it is a
newdiest ranch, as you know, people keep being saying, keep saying,
I think that kind of goes in line. It makes
sense that if it's a newist ranch, these people are
going to be a little bit more familiar with each
other than I think a regular ranch, right, yeah, you know,
a regular community.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's funny you say this because as he was talking
about the fact that nobody really knew this guy really well,
he only get, you know, once in a while you'd
see him. It's inconsistent with sort of the vibe that
you suggest is at a newdist ranch, which is like, hey,
we're all here. It's kind of maybe aging hippies whatever.
It's all very familiar with each other anyway. So that's
the wrap on that. The story that was just breaking.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Interesting because we saw yesterday that that smaller cat. Sorry,
you know what, We'll take a break and we'll time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, we'll talk about on the other side. Also got
some news out of Santa Monica, so we'll get to
that too.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (10:24):
I am amazed at how music man.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You really got to follow it hour to hour.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
You got to stay on it, man.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I kind of checked out a while. I was
going to say, I feel like I've let it drift also.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
But thankfully we have someone like Steph who's pretty up
on stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And still is so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He really you know, and then he throws throws us
old guys a bone by playing some throwback stuff too.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
I appreciate the booker and striker up there with them
right now.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh is that right of course.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, all right, So we were just doing kind of
in your pardon the expression of post him on that
newdest situation, the Newdest ranch where now guys in custody.
He's been accused of murder. The suspect arrested in connection
with the disappearance of the couple. Couple in their seventies,
this dude in his early sixties lived right next door
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to them. Because of the way that we had to
monitor it minute to minute yesterday, Krazer and I, who
sort of saw the whole thing developing, so we feel
maybe a little bit closer to the story than many
others will just kind of read the bottom line because
they've now reached kind of a bottom line, although some
things still don't make sense. Like they were in a
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standoff yesterday. We'd heard and the standoff preceded the SWAT
team moving in. So Krozer and I were saying, well, Jeeves,
there was a standoff where they was a standoff with
the guy. I mean, who are they standing off against.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
They never they never mentioned or maybe we missed it,
whether or not they were ever in contact with anybody.
They just said that they weren't stand off. They had
gotten the tip earlier in the day and they went
directly to this house. I don't recall ever hearing them
say that there was any communication they knew that there
was somebody in there or not. So it's it's interesting
that that, and we were speculating that they had that
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police had to have been really confident in some aspect
of it, whether or not the bodies of the elderly
couple were in there, or if that guy was in
there and was an imminent danger to be able to
go in there and do what they did, right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, they essentially demolished half of that house. We
saw it happen.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
And and the fact that we saw that that smaller
armored vehicle that Kat went in basically drove into the
house and then sunk down a good foot or two
on its right side. The first thing I thought was like,
maybe there's some sort of crawl space underneath the house.
And then we find out that, yeah, the bodies were
in there, and I'm like, oh, hopefully they didn't, you know,
do the obvious and fall on to crucial evidence.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean, the cops are in a tough spot there because,
on the one hand, they want to be as careful
as possible to not destroy evidence. On the other hand,
they also want to be responsible and not expose their
people to some kind of danger that they don't need
to be exposed to.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They flew a drone in.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Everyone will remember who was listening to KFI yesterday at
this time.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
They flew a drone into the house.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So they essentially punched a hole in the side of
the house and then they flew this drone in.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
We rarely get to see stuff like this, so it
was really fascinating to watch it happen live.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, and we just kept wondering, how do they know
this is the place they want? Because clearly they did
and they were right. I mean again, this guy who
is one of those guys where like nobody.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Knew him very well.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They maybe would say hello, but he wasn't one of
those guys you knew very well.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Now he's in custody, arrested for the murder of these
two people, sweet couple, Stephanie Maynard seventy three and her husband,
Daniel seventy nine. I guess Daniel was suffering from Alzheimer's
or dementia some kind.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
So you wonder with the situations like that it being
a newdist ranch specifically, is it a closed community that
the guy needed permission to even move into there for
or you can is it just like anything else where,
it's peace of property?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Or buy it? I'm moving Sure. How do they screen them?
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't really have enough newdest ranch experience to be
able to comment on them.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't know how exclusive it is.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Maybe somebody, if you've got newdest ranch experience, maybe you
can fill us in on how they decide who's going
to be part of that community.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Maybe you should ask Sharon right, what are you saying? Yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Sharon's not here today to really answer that question, and
I'm not certain she would be able to answer it anyway.
Angel but Joe anyway, I have mad respect for the nudists.
It takes a lot of courage. Yeah, yeah, Mark, courage
that I can muster and believe me, have you seen me.
I've got the body of David. I look great and
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still I know I want to wear a speedo. I'm
incredibly self conscious. Yeah, good for these older nudistiple. Plus,
I got to think when you're in your seventies, I've
got to think things don't look quite as great, you know,
so great self confidence to those newdest Ranch people. When
we come back, Alex Michaelson, the host of The Issue
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Is and the Fox eleven anchor five, six and ten
o'clock on Fox eleven, we will dissect a bit of
the Kamala Harris sit down with Dana Bash and also
talk about the latest polling. Alex does a lot in
the way of politics. You know, California is critical in
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a lot of these house races. We may decide who
controls the House of Representatives. We'll talk to Alex about
that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
To Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's been a long week. We've got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
We had a police standoff yesterday at this time, had
the big sit down between Kamala Harris and Tim Walls
with Dana Bash. In that spirit, let's pivot over to
a guy who This is The Conway Show, by the way,
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim is back next week.
A guy who does a lot of politics. His show,
The Issue Is It really lays it out. Most of
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the time it's pure politics. Occasionally he does some stories
that aren't pure politics. I think that might be the
case this week, but I don't know. We'll have to
ask him. Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Hey, Alex Mark Thompson, ding dong with you, ding.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Dong, sir. I guess you're going to do something on
the Harris thing. You've got to I would think to
a follow up this week on your show, not on
the issue is.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
We're talked about that on the six o'clock news. But
this week we are doing a special show, as you mentioned,
a break from politics, which sounds good to me. I
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Helped thousands of people turn their lives around, many of
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helped completely completely change every you know that their their identity.
It's it's remarkable, and there's so much of what we
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talk about is what doesn't work, that it's really nice
to highlight something that does work and maybe give us
reason to think about ways we could solve some of
these big problems we have, like gang violence and homelessness
and addiction and other things that we all complain about
but don't really make a lot of progress of.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, it's so important for all of us to have
some figure in our lives. Probably, I mean, I don't
even know to what degree you need to, you know,
be in the constant companionship of that person, but someone
you look up to, someone who takes an interest in
your life, and that is something that you know they
do so effectively there, And I just I think the
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track record speaks for itself. Look, I'll look forward to that.
I mean, I know you're going to talk a lot,
and you have already talked a lot, probably last night
on Fox eleven News about this Harris thing. It was
a it was a sit down interview her first. She
did it with her vice president and Dana Bash. And
I was saying before that, I was reading in comments
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that Dana Bash didn't do enough follow up, she wasn't
tough enough. And then I'd see in the same comments
strand Dana Bash is clearly right wing. Why is she
being so tough on Kamala? So, I mean, how did you,
how did it land for you?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Look, I feel for Dana Bash as somebody who has
interviewed Kamala Harris dozens of times over the years, including
earlier this year. Part of what makes her very skilled
as a politician is she's very good at not answering
the question and also taking a really, really long time
to not answer the question. So she runs out the clock,
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and they intentionally make the interviews relatively short with a
time limit, and so you're constantly fighting, Okay, do I
follow up? Do I point out the fact that what
she just said doesn't have anything to do with what
we just did, And then if you do ask a
follow up, then it makes it twice as long. It's
a whole thing. And so, you know what I've kind
of learned with her that you're better off picking a
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few topics and then really drilling down, knowing that you
may need to ask the question three times to get
an answer, versus trying to get everything in there. It's
very challenging that process. Dana Bash is a pro and
I think, you know it is very good at doing
something that's hard for a lot of people to do,
which I try to do, which is to ask questions
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in a sort of neutral way that are both tough
but also not being an a hole while doing it. Sure,
which is part of the reason why I think she
was picked as the one to do it. But there's
no way you're going to be able to satisfy everybody
in that limited amount of time. I mean this, which
is why Kamala Harris should do a lot more interviews
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with different people to be able to get on the
record on different things, and why she should do some
press conferences too. But you know, as we've seen, she
doesn't really do anything she doesn't really need to do,
and right now they think their strategy is working.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Right. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, And right
now she's going up in a lot of different polls.
You said something that was really quite insightful. You said
it on my show, my YouTube show, and you were
so good to come on. And what you said was
by keeping away from some of these situations that you've
talked about, she's become the generic Democratic candidate. And the
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generic Democratic candidate, was your point, has always polled well
against Donald Trump and even Joe Biden. When it was
sort of suggested, would you vote for a generic Democratic
candidate against Trump. Even with Biden the race, the generic
candidate always did better than Biden. So I thought that
was really an insightful thought as to where she has
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now positioned herself in this race.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
And you see that around the country and these Senate
races that are really close. Right in these battleground states.
Throughout the entire year, the Democratic candidate has been significantly
outpolling Joe Biden, which was an indication that Joe Biden
was weaker than generic democrat. So as Kamala Harris can
keep herself as I'm not Donald Trump, I'm not Joe Biden,
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I'm not in my eighties, I'm relatively moderate, I'm not scary.
If she can do that, she probably wins. She doesn't
want to get pulled into all these other fights. If
you notice, she doesn't want to get into the race issue.
She doesn't want to get into the gender issue. She
didn't bring it up once during the convention. Ronald Trump's
throwing that stuff in her face, and she had plenty
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of opportunities where Dana Bash baited her with that, and
she is not going there. Part of the advantage, I think, frankly,
of maybe being a woman candidate. And this is not
meant to be a sexist thing, but guys, and speaking
as guys, I think we have a little bit more
tendency to like have ego issues and being macho when
somebody attacks you, you want to fight back. If you
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think about the debate and like it was Trump and
Biden talking about their golf games and like just really stupid, right,
I mean it was like a weird old man, you
know fighting I'm jumper than you, like, you know, as
a female candidate, I think she's a little bit more
disciplined at maybe not doing that but letting some things
slide and being a little more strategic, and that could
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turn out to be sort of her hidden weapon of
not swinging in every pitch.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
And then that kind of drives Trump a little crazy
when you don't take the bait that he's put out
there too.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I always think that it's difficult as a woman to
run because you're being judged in ways that men are not.
You're being judged on your looks, on your outfit, and
if you become angry, you become you know, you're called
a bitch. I mean it's like, you know, there's a
I think guys were given a much wider and longer
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runway than are some of these female candidates.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
And it's harder being a black person running. Sure, you
know that there's the concern that you'll be seen as angry,
and so now you've got a black woman running, which
makes it even more complicated in terms of the perception
of stuff. And so so far, it seems like Kamala
Harris has really navigated some of those land mines pretty well.
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But there's still a lot of time left.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Let me ask you quickly in our last minute or
so about California and the House races. California is an
important place for control of the House.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
I spoke last night with the chair of the Republican
National Committee, Mike Wattley, who was here, which is an
indication of how important it is, and he said that
there is no way that the Republicans can keep control
of the House if they don't win a lot of
these close races. In California. There's about five to seven
races that could really go either way. Because we have
this independent commission picking the districts, we don't have jerrymandering.
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We have some districts that are literally like fifty one
forty nine. We don't know who's going to win, and
the whole control of the House probably comes down to California,
which why you're going to see a huge amount of
spending on ads for those races. In the next few months.
You won't see a lot of presidential campaign ads, but
you'll see a lot for the House because the House
is going to come down to California.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wild stuff, wild stuff, I mean, politics has never been
more interesting. Your beat is probably enviable by many. Alex
Michaelson weeknights, five, six, and ten on Fox eleven, And
of course the issue is seen across the state of California.
Always love talking to you, my friend, talk to you,
can talk to you again.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Likewise Mark and everybody should watch his YouTube show too,
which is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Wow, look at that, Alex Michaels and come on more
guests like that.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Please, very strong, really really cool.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
All right, when we come back, I have a story
that is not being done anywhere else. I promise you now,
when you hear it, you're going to go, oh, well,
I understand maybe why it's not being done anywhere else,
But it does involve a person that you'll most of
you are going to recognize and you will have to
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concede is a person of significance and in this very
specific way. And this person of significance did something that
is noteworthy. So we'll get to that story immediately following
a news break.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You're listening to Tim Conwayjunior on demand from KFI sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Something happened and I'm fairly confident that this is not
being widely reported, and today I believe it's today. I'm
cycling through all of my different sources and I see
this guy come on c SPAN and he says, the
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founder of c SPAN, Brian Lamb, it's his last day
today at c SPAN. And this guy who's toiled in
cable relative obscurity, but in the world of Washington and politics,
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very well known. He does that show about books, and
I'm guessing most have seen him, maybe not super familiar
with him.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
They had a big c.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
SPAN farewell for him, and by that I mean it
was typical c Span. They just did a little mention.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
We did want to let our viewers know on c
SPAN that today is our founder, Brian Lamb's last day
at s c SPAN after forty seven years with this network.
It was Brian's revolutionary idea to bring Congress to the
American public through the use of cable and satellite radio
and television. And he did that starting back in nineteen
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seventy nine.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
He hosted it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The guy did this with an idea to a bring
the process into our homes and b try anyway to
keep c SPAN neutral.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Everything else that followed became hugely partisan, but not c
SPAN seventy nine.
Speaker 10 (27:48):
He hosted the first call in on c SPAN back
in nineteen eighty and it was that call in that
eventually led to the Washington Journal. Before we go today,
we wanted to show you Brian back forty five, four
years ago on that first calling.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
This is the first time we've tried this.
Speaker 11 (28:03):
If you'll notice I'm sitting right next to you is
a little earphone with the delay of the satellite, you know,
when we go, when we go from here up to
the satellite twenty two thousand miles up in twenty two
thousand miles down.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
This is about us nineteen eighty as you can get.
I mean, it's really raw, you know what i mean.
He's got he's got a table and they're like six
guys around it, and they have these little earpieces so
that they can communicate with the caller. But that was
the beginning of taking calls on c SPAN.
Speaker 11 (28:31):
Our telephone number here in Washington is area code two
O two seven eight three two six five to one.
That's two oh two yeah, seven eight three two six
five to one. And for those of you who'd like
to give us a call, we will answer the calls
as they come in.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I see we have a couple of They can't even
get the thing in my ear. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:54):
Ask us any question about any aspect of our coverage
of this campaign, or what the chairman had to say
today chairman of the Federal Communications Commission before the National
Press Club, or any facet of broadcasting or communications industry.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think we have a couple of calls commanded.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Bob A.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Bowie was the first one, I'm guessing, or.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
We have yanked in South Dakota.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Yes, sir, Yeah, go ahead, Bob it yanked. Yes, Bob,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And I would like to know be at the private
and put it out my yard of the satellite.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Is that legal with anybody who's past question?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
All right?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, so you could tell they were getting those kinds
of questions. But that was that guy was the first
caller to see SPAN.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
You can make an argument that c SPAN is more
of a news organization than CNN is, especially now, because
they just put out there the absolute facts of what's
going on in Congress for one thing.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Sure, sure, I mean it depends how you define news organization, because.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Well, they're giving you information.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sure, but sometimes you need to actually work sources to
get information. And I understand that that can fall into
some partisanship here and there. But you're right, I mean unfiltered.
You are getting it on se SPAN. Now that said,
people show up to c SPAN, there are oftentimes spokespeople
for various political positions or for various politicians.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Yeah, so you're not always getting the factual information because
you're just hearing it straight from the politician's mouth. Yeah,
if they don't have fact checkers or you know, some
sort of analysis of what's being shown.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, Increasingly s SPAN doesn't just turn on the camera
and show you the House chamber.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's a bunch of other stuff going on, oh talking heads. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
But Brian Lamb forty seven years ago, he had the idea,
got to give the guy mad credit for that. I
mean it really, you know, it's it's never had sizzle
se Span. It's always been very dry, and as Crozier suggested,
there's a virtue to that. You know, sometimes the sizzles
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a little much, and they always have their callers, they
try to balance them through the years. This is, you know,
in and out of Sea Span along the way what
I've seen. So I give him credit. Brian Lamb, He's
going to continue his book show. He will continue that,
but having founded se Span, he is stepping back forty
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seven years ago. He had the idea, Brian Lamb retiring. Well,
it's happened. A doctor has been charged in connection with
Matthew Perry's death and he's appeared in court and made
a plea deal. As you're aware, this is a wild
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story to me, the Perry story, because the tentacles of
it extend so far beyond Matthew Perry. That and Leah
Remedy in the news in the next hour as well,
and back to the metrobus controversies, all of that in
the next hour. It's the Conway Show, Mark Thompson and
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty and you're listening to The Conway
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Speaker 3 (00:08):
It is just the ramp up to a great Labor
Day weekend on The Conway Show. Mark Thompson here for Tim,
got the whole crew, though, Krozer's here, Lindsey's ears to
Foosh Angel and you and we will not disappoint I
won't permit it. I have one story here at least
that you won't hear anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah. Plus there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Of information and takes that you'll hear here that you
likely will not hear anywhere else set in the bar.
I am, and I'm thinking we're going to clear it
without any sort of issue. First, I want to follow
up on a story that was breaking yesterday. Now, the
missing person's part of the story wasn't breaking yesterday. The
couple in Redlands. They were missing since over the weekend.
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Last time they were seen was Saturday morning, and they're communications.
I think Sunday was sort of the official start of
the search for.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
This missing couple.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And as we have noted along the way here, it's
at a newdist ranch in Redlands, and we're not a
nudist ranch. I don't know that we would have been
talking about this story though, with the frequency that we've
been talking about it. But anyway, it was a newdist ranche,
and it is a newdist ranch in Redlands, and Blake
Trolley is there for us. As I was saying, yesterday,
at this very time, they began to bring those swap
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vehicles in and essentially demolish the house right next door
to where the couple lived. And we were at that
point just kind of speculating as to why they were
going after that house. Now we can fill in a
lot of these blanks, and Blake is here to do
that high Blake.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, hey, Mark, And so really, I guess the best
place to begin with this whole thing is that police
really had a major update in their investigation yesterday when
they were on the property of that nudist ranch. They
were going door to door they're looking for information, at
which point somebody on that property tells investigators like, hey,
the person who killed these people lives on site. And
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that's when this person tips them off to Michael Sparks.
This is the next door neighbor of the Minards. So
police go over to Michael Sparks's home, they attempt to
make contact with him several times. The reason they say
they brought in that equipment is because after several times
trying to make contact with him and thinking that he
was in fact inside the home, they were unable to
make contact with him. That's when you saw that swat
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vehicle that was brought in from Riverside County. Keep in
mind this property, it's in Redlands, but it's in a
really weird area. It's in a canyon that many parts
of are in fact in Riverside County. Anyways, they bring
in that Riverside County swat vehicle, they're able to ram
into the home and then deploy cameras looking for this guy.
This started yesterday afternoon. The guy wasn't found until about
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nine to thirty. Sparks was located. And the way that
police described it to us this morning is they said
that he was found underneath the home, at which point
a reporter had said that she heard that the guy
maybe had some sort of tunnel system underneath his home.
Police were unable to confirm that, just saying that he
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was underneath his home. We were told this morning you
talk about that vehicle that was brought in.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
We were told this morning that the house.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Was left in such a disarray that police really didn't
feel safe just walking on sites, so they brought inspectors
out to make sure the property was going to be
accessible not only for officers but also for cadaver dogs.
So cadaver dogs were on the property today. And the
latest update that we have we're seeing some reports we've
not been able to confirm these, but that human remains
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were in fact found. What we did confirm earlier was
that the cadaver dogs had detected human remains.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Wow, it felt as though it was a weird when
we saw the smaller vehicle sink into what is clearly
some kind of basement area. I mean I say clearly
because everything else was sort of right there at street level.
It had this weird feeling as though, yeah, nothing good
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was going to be found after that.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, and police didn't talk about this, but you know,
they maybe had reason to believe that this house had
some really weird circumstances to it, maybe some features to
it that the guy you know intentionally installed that would
have made their job tougher, and that might maybe why
they took the approach.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
H actually he took actee.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you think it was so there you think or
you've heard maybe like sort of booby traps throughout the
house type thing, or I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm just speculating, but you know, again there is that,
you know, you saw that that vehicle sync and then
you had people asking, I, you know, does this guy
have some sort of tunnel system underneath the home? So
I think police really just didn't know what they were
dealing with. And you know, just on a human front
mark driving out to this out to this ranch. Again,
it's on a dirt road, it's in a very deserty area.
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On the way down, one of the first things I
noticed is that there were donkey crossing signs, which you
almost never see, and I actually saw don't take all
my way back out.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I've never seen one anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I saw three actually on my way out.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
So real deserty landscape that this thing sits on and
really in the middle of nowhere. One of the things
that I want to play this is some compelling audio.
This is Irene Engraft and she actually lives in the neighborhood.
She says she's the one who called police. Now you
said Sunday was the day that investigators really started looking
for these people as missing.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
This woman says that they went over to the house,
her and her husband. They realized these people weren't there.
They thought they maybe were at church. So she says,
her and her husband go to church, they don't see
the couple there. They go back to the home and
here's where we're at.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
So we went in and that's when I saw Stephanie's
purse there and John called her phone and when it rang,
it was right by her chair where she sits, and
the computer was on and Dan always sit there and
did computer play, listened to things. So I walked over
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there and there laid his folk and that I turned
it over had his name on him, and it was off.
So I said to John, I will go to the bedroom.
See went in there and the bed was made, nothing
was disturbed. Went in the bathroom to see if there
was any blood or anything. Nothing there. Cuddles wasn't in
his hid his little bed. So we just locked up,
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called line one one, and then I started calling hospitals
because they had Kieser insurance. And of course, of course
what I called at first didn't know that they didn't
have any idea or anything on him. So it really
didn't do us any good. You know, they wouldn't give
us any information.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
What was the relationship like with this suspect.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Well, if they were neighbors, and I'm sure they've had
a few words here and there. But he was a loner,
so he never really was much. He didn't communicate with
people here in the park, but he would come down
to the clubhouse so that where we have a first
aid and maybe have a few drinks and stuff. But
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he just was a.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Loner before that Mark, she actually described him as the
kind of guy you only got a couple of words
out of out of time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wow, I tell you that those neighbors are salt of
the earth. I mean, to go in to know so
much about your neighbors, to identify that the cell phones
are still there, to look for the dog, identify the
fact that the dog wasn't there, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean she said that, yeah, they had a key.
They had a key to the property. That's how they
got on.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I mean, so, on the one hand, you have a
neighbor who now is being suspected of offering them, who
they barely knew, and maybe they got into some dust
steps with and then you have these concerned neighbors who
have the key to their place. I mean I could
be I think I could be dead for eighteen months
before any of my neighbors would know. I mean it
just that's a really great pair of neighbors who go
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in there and inspected the house. Anyway, So to the
point at the end of this week where they've been searching,
we end up with this, these swat vehicles revealing what
is likely the scene of a murder.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Right, Yeah, what's interesting is this morning I had asked, so,
does it appear that the murder actually took place here
at the newdest ranch? And I thought was what was
interesting is they were unable to confirm exactly where it happened.
And again I asked that because you heard her description there,
it doesn't sound like it happened inside the Menard's home.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And keep in mind their car.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Was found near their property with the keys inside, so
it doesn't appear that they drove off the property. So
when I asked police, did it happen here on the property?
That was something that they were unable to confirm this morning.
So I'm just gonna say that I think it likely
happened there. I guess we'll have to see where exactly
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on the property it happened.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Did it happen at this suspect's home?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I can't wait to hear what the motive was and
more about this, just because it's so bizarre and sad.
You know, couple in their seventies, this guy Michael Sparks
who lived next door sixty two, and now his story
will be hopefully fleshed out and we'll learn more good stuff.
Thanks so much for checking in Blake with the grim
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end of this, and for your.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Donkey spotting abilities.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You'll be handsomely rewarded, all right, Thanks Spark, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Donkey crossing signs. Wow, that is a brand new one.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
I think the fact that it's that it is a
newdiest ranch, as you know, people keep being saying, keep saying,
I think that kind of goes in line. It makes
sense that if it's a newist ranch, these people are
going to be a little bit more familiar with each
other than I think a regular ranch, right, yeah, you know,
a regular community.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's funny you say this because as he was talking
about the fact that nobody really knew this guy really well,
he only get, you know, once in a while you'd
see him. It's inconsistent with sort of the vibe that
you suggest is at a newdist ranch, which is like, hey,
we're all here. It's kind of maybe aging hippies whatever.
It's all very familiar with each other anyway. So that's
the wrap on that. The story that was just breaking.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Interesting because we saw yesterday that that smaller cat. Sorry,
you know what, We'll take a break and we'll time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, we'll talk about on the other side. Also got
some news out of Santa Monica, so we'll get to
that too.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I am amazed at how music man.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You really got to follow it hour to hour.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
You got to stay on it, man.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I kind of checked out a while. I was
going to say, I feel like I've let it drift also.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
But thankfully we have someone like Steph who's pretty up
on stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And still is so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He really you know, and then he throws throws us
old guys a bone by playing some throwback stuff too.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
I appreciate the booker and striker up there with them
right now.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh is that right of course.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, all right, So we were just doing kind of
in your pardon the expression of post him on that
newdest situation, the Newdest ranch where now guys in custody.
He's been accused of murder. The suspect arrested in connection
with the disappearance of the couple. Couple in their seventies,
this dude in his early sixties lived right next door
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to them. Because of the way that we had to
monitor it minute to minute yesterday, Krazer and I, who
sort of saw the whole thing developing, so we feel
maybe a little bit closer to the story than many
others will just kind of read the bottom line because
they've now reached kind of a bottom line, although some
things still don't make sense. Like they were in a
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standoff yesterday. We'd heard and the standoff preceded the SWAT
team moving in. So Krozer and I were saying, well, Jeeves,
there was a standoff where they was a standoff with
the guy. I mean, who are they standing off against.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
They never they never mentioned or maybe we missed it,
whether or not they were ever in contact with anybody.
They just said that they weren't stand off. They had
gotten the tip earlier in the day and they went
directly to this house. I don't recall ever hearing them
say that there was any communication they knew that there
was somebody in there or not. So it's it's interesting
that that, and we were speculating that they had that
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police had to have been really confident in some aspect
of it, whether or not the bodies of the elderly
couple were in there, or if that guy was in
there and was an imminent danger to be able to
go in there and do what they did, right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, they essentially demolished half of that house. We
saw it happen.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
And and the fact that we saw that that smaller
armored vehicle that Kat went in basically drove into the
house and then sunk down a good foot or two
on its right side. The first thing I thought was like,
maybe there's some sort of crawl space underneath the house.
And then we find out that, yeah, the bodies were
in there, and I'm like, oh, hopefully they didn't, you know,
do the obvious and fall on to crucial evidence.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean, the cops are in a tough spot there because,
on the one hand, they want to be as careful
as possible to not destroy evidence. On the other hand,
they also want to be responsible and not expose their
people to some kind of danger that they don't need
to be exposed to.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They flew a drone in.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Everyone will remember who was listening to KFI yesterday at
this time.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
They flew a drone into the house.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So they essentially punched a hole in the side of
the house and then they flew this drone in.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
We rarely get to see stuff like this, so it
was really fascinating to watch it happen live.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, and we just kept wondering, how do they know
this is the place they want? Because clearly they did
and they were right. I mean again, this guy who
is one of those guys where like nobody.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Knew him very well.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They maybe would say hello, but he wasn't one of
those guys you knew very well.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Now he's in custody, arrested for the murder of these
two people, sweet couple, Stephanie Maynard seventy three and her husband,
Daniel seventy nine. I guess Daniel was suffering from Alzheimer's
or dementia some kind.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
So you wonder with the situations like that it being
a newdist ranch specifically, is it a closed community that
the guy needed permission to even move into there for
or you can is it just like anything else where,
it's peace of property?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Or buy it? I'm moving Sure. How do they screen them?
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't really have enough newdest ranch experience to be
able to comment on them.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't know how exclusive it is.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Maybe somebody, if you've got newdest ranch experience, maybe you
can fill us in on how they decide who's going
to be part of that community.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Maybe you should ask Sharon right, what are you saying? Yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Sharon's not here today to really answer that question, and
I'm not certain she would be able to answer it anyway.
Angel but Joe anyway, I have mad respect for the nudists.
It takes a lot of courage. Yeah, yeah, Mark, courage
that I can muster and believe me, have you seen me.
I've got the body of David. I look great and
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still I know I want to wear a speedo. I'm
incredibly self conscious. Yeah, good for these older nudistiple. Plus,
I got to think when you're in your seventies, I've
got to think things don't look quite as great, you know,
so great self confidence to those newdest Ranch people. When
we come back, Alex Michaelson, the host of The Issue
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Is and the Fox eleven anchor five, six and ten
o'clock on Fox eleven, we will dissect a bit of
the Kamala Harris sit down with Dana Bash and also
talk about the latest polling. Alex does a lot in
the way of politics. You know, California is critical in
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a lot of these house races. We may decide who
controls the House of Representatives. We'll talk to Alex about
that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
To Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's been a long week. We've got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
We had a police standoff yesterday at this time, had
the big sit down between Kamala Harris and Tim Walls
with Dana Bash. In that spirit, let's pivot over to
a guy who This is The Conway Show, by the way,
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim is back next week.
A guy who does a lot of politics. His show,
The Issue Is It really lays it out. Most of
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the time it's pure politics. Occasionally he does some stories
that aren't pure politics. I think that might be the
case this week, but I don't know. We'll have to
ask him. Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Hey, Alex Mark Thompson, ding dong with you, ding.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Dong, sir. I guess you're going to do something on
the Harris thing. You've got to I would think to
a follow up this week on your show, not on
the issue is.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
We're talked about that on the six o'clock news. But
this week we are doing a special show, as you mentioned,
a break from politics, which sounds good to me. I
don't know about you. About father Greg Boyle Homeboy Industry
been doing it for four decades near downtown Los Angeles.
Helped thousands of people turn their lives around, many of
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them former gang members, incarcerated, drug addicted. Gives them education,
gives them work and gives them purpose and you watch
them heal and all these folks, thousands of people he's
helped completely completely change every you know that their their identity.
It's it's remarkable, and there's so much of what we
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talk about is what doesn't work, that it's really nice
to highlight something that does work and maybe give us
reason to think about ways we could solve some of
these big problems we have, like gang violence and homelessness
and addiction and other things that we all complain about
but don't really make a lot of progress of.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, it's so important for all of us to have
some figure in our lives. Probably, I mean, I don't
even know to what degree you need to, you know,
be in the constant companionship of that person, but someone
you look up to, someone who takes an interest in
your life, and that is something that you know they
do so effectively there, And I just I think the
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track record speaks for itself. Look, I'll look forward to that.
I mean, I know you're going to talk a lot,
and you have already talked a lot, probably last night
on Fox eleven News about this Harris thing. It was
a it was a sit down interview her first. She
did it with her vice president and Dana Bash. And
I was saying before that, I was reading in comments
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that Dana Bash didn't do enough follow up, she wasn't
tough enough. And then I'd see in the same comments
strand Dana Bash is clearly right wing. Why is she
being so tough on Kamala? So, I mean, how did you,
how did it land for you?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Look, I feel for Dana Bash as somebody who has
interviewed Kamala Harris dozens of times over the years, including
earlier this year. Part of what makes her very skilled
as a politician is she's very good at not answering
the question and also taking a really, really long time
to not answer the question. So she runs out the clock,
(19:18):
and they intentionally make the interviews relatively short with a
time limit, and so you're constantly fighting, Okay, do I
follow up? Do I point out the fact that what
she just said doesn't have anything to do with what
we just did, And then if you do ask a
follow up, then it makes it twice as long. It's
a whole thing. And so, you know what I've kind
of learned with her that you're better off picking a
(19:38):
few topics and then really drilling down, knowing that you
may need to ask the question three times to get
an answer, versus trying to get everything in there. It's
very challenging that process. Dana Bash is a pro and
I think, you know it is very good at doing
something that's hard for a lot of people to do,
which I try to do, which is to ask questions
(19:59):
in a sort of neutral way that are both tough
but also not being an a hole while doing it. Sure,
which is part of the reason why I think she
was picked as the one to do it. But there's
no way you're going to be able to satisfy everybody
in that limited amount of time. I mean this, which
is why Kamala Harris should do a lot more interviews
(20:19):
with different people to be able to get on the
record on different things, and why she should do some
press conferences too. But you know, as we've seen, she
doesn't really do anything she doesn't really need to do,
and right now they think their strategy is working.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Right. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, And right
now she's going up in a lot of different polls.
You said something that was really quite insightful. You said
it on my show, my YouTube show, and you were
so good to come on. And what you said was
by keeping away from some of these situations that you've
talked about, she's become the generic Democratic candidate. And the
(20:55):
generic Democratic candidate, was your point, has always polled well
against Donald Trump and even Joe Biden. When it was
sort of suggested, would you vote for a generic Democratic
candidate against Trump. Even with Biden the race, the generic
candidate always did better than Biden. So I thought that
was really an insightful thought as to where she has
(21:15):
now positioned herself in this race.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
And you see that around the country and these Senate
races that are really close. Right in these battleground states.
Throughout the entire year, the Democratic candidate has been significantly
outpolling Joe Biden, which was an indication that Joe Biden
was weaker than generic democrat. So as Kamala Harris can
keep herself as I'm not Donald Trump, I'm not Joe Biden,
(21:41):
I'm not in my eighties, I'm relatively moderate, I'm not scary.
If she can do that, she probably wins. She doesn't
want to get pulled into all these other fights. If
you notice, she doesn't want to get into the race issue.
She doesn't want to get into the gender issue. She
didn't bring it up once during the convention. Ronald Trump's
throwing that stuff in her face, and she had plenty
(22:03):
of opportunities where Dana Bash baited her with that, and
she is not going there. Part of the advantage, I think, frankly,
of maybe being a woman candidate. And this is not
meant to be a sexist thing, but guys, and speaking
as guys, I think we have a little bit more
tendency to like have ego issues and being macho when
somebody attacks you, you want to fight back. If you
(22:26):
think about the debate and like it was Trump and
Biden talking about their golf games and like just really stupid, right,
I mean it was like a weird old man, you
know fighting I'm jumper than you, like, you know, as
a female candidate, I think she's a little bit more
disciplined at maybe not doing that but letting some things
slide and being a little more strategic, and that could
(22:49):
turn out to be sort of her hidden weapon of
not swinging in every pitch.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
And then that kind of drives Trump a little crazy
when you don't take the bait that he's put out
there too.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I always think that it's difficult as a woman to
run because you're being judged in ways that men are not.
You're being judged on your looks, on your outfit, and
if you become angry, you become you know, you're called
a bitch. I mean it's like, you know, there's a
I think guys were given a much wider and longer
(23:22):
runway than are some of these female candidates.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
And it's harder being a black person running. Sure, you
know that there's the concern that you'll be seen as angry,
and so now you've got a black woman running, which
makes it even more complicated in terms of the perception
of stuff. And so so far, it seems like Kamala
Harris has really navigated some of those land mines pretty well.
(23:49):
But there's still a lot of time left.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Let me ask you quickly in our last minute or
so about California and the House races. California is an
important place for control of the House.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
I spoke last night with the chair of the Republican
National Committee, Mike Wattley, who was here, which is an
indication of how important it is, and he said that
there is no way that the Republicans can keep control
of the House if they don't win a lot of
these close races. In California. There's about five to seven
races that could really go either way. Because we have
this independent commission picking the districts, we don't have jerrymandering.
(24:23):
We have some districts that are literally like fifty one
forty nine. We don't know who's going to win, and
the whole control of the House probably comes down to California,
which why you're going to see a huge amount of
spending on ads for those races. In the next few months.
You won't see a lot of presidential campaign ads, but
you'll see a lot for the House because the House
is going to come down to California.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wild stuff, wild stuff, I mean, politics has never been
more interesting. Your beat is probably enviable by many. Alex
Michaelson weeknights, five, six, and ten on Fox eleven, And
of course the issue is seen across the state of California.
Always love talking to you, my friend, talk to you,
can talk to you again.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Likewise Mark and everybody should watch his YouTube show too,
which is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Wow, look at that, Alex Michaels and come on more
guests like that.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Please, very strong, really really cool.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
All right, when we come back, I have a story
that is not being done anywhere else. I promise you now,
when you hear it, you're going to go, oh, well,
I understand maybe why it's not being done anywhere else,
But it does involve a person that you'll most of
you are going to recognize and you will have to
(25:36):
concede is a person of significance and in this very
specific way. And this person of significance did something that
is noteworthy. So we'll get to that story immediately following
a news break.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You're listening to Tim Conwayjunior on demand from KFI sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Something happened and I'm fairly confident that this is not
being widely reported, and today I believe it's today. I'm
cycling through all of my different sources and I see
this guy come on c SPAN and he says, the
(26:28):
founder of c SPAN, Brian Lamb, it's his last day
today at c SPAN. And this guy who's toiled in
cable relative obscurity, but in the world of Washington and politics,
(26:49):
very well known. He does that show about books, and
I'm guessing most have seen him, maybe not super familiar
with him.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
They had a big c.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
SPAN farewell for him, and by that I mean it
was typical c Span. They just did a little mention.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
We did want to let our viewers know on c
SPAN that today is our founder, Brian Lamb's last day
at s c SPAN after forty seven years with this network.
It was Brian's revolutionary idea to bring Congress to the
American public through the use of cable and satellite radio
and television. And he did that starting back in nineteen
(27:29):
seventy nine.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
He hosted it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The guy did this with an idea to a bring
the process into our homes and b try anyway to
keep c SPAN neutral.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Everything else that followed became hugely partisan, but not c
SPAN seventy nine.
Speaker 10 (27:48):
He hosted the first call in on c SPAN back
in nineteen eighty and it was that call in that
eventually led to the Washington Journal. Before we go today,
we wanted to show you Brian back forty five, four
years ago on that first calling.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
This is the first time we've tried this.
Speaker 11 (28:03):
If you'll notice I'm sitting right next to you is
a little earphone with the delay of the satellite, you know,
when we go, when we go from here up to
the satellite twenty two thousand miles up in twenty two
thousand miles down.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
This is about us nineteen eighty as you can get.
I mean, it's really raw, you know what i mean.
He's got he's got a table and they're like six
guys around it, and they have these little earpieces so
that they can communicate with the caller. But that was
the beginning of taking calls on c SPAN.
Speaker 11 (28:31):
Our telephone number here in Washington is area code two
O two seven eight three two six five to one.
That's two oh two yeah, seven eight three two six
five to one. And for those of you who'd like
to give us a call, we will answer the calls
as they come in.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I see we have a couple of They can't even
get the thing in my ear. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:54):
Ask us any question about any aspect of our coverage
of this campaign, or what the chairman had to say
today chairman of the Federal Communications Commission before the National
Press Club, or any facet of broadcasting or communications industry.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think we have a couple of calls commanded.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Bob A.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Bowie was the first one, I'm guessing, or.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
We have yanked in South Dakota.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Yes, sir, Yeah, go ahead, Bob it yanked. Yes, Bob,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And I would like to know be at the private
and put it out my yard of the satellite.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Is that legal with anybody who's past question?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
All right?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, so you could tell they were getting those kinds
of questions. But that was that guy was the first
caller to see SPAN.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
You can make an argument that c SPAN is more
of a news organization than CNN is, especially now, because
they just put out there the absolute facts of what's
going on in Congress for one thing.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Sure, sure, I mean it depends how you define news organization, because.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Well, they're giving you information.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sure, but sometimes you need to actually work sources to
get information. And I understand that that can fall into
some partisanship here and there. But you're right, I mean unfiltered.
You are getting it on se SPAN. Now that said,
people show up to c SPAN, there are oftentimes spokespeople
for various political positions or for various politicians.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Yeah, so you're not always getting the factual information because
you're just hearing it straight from the politician's mouth. Yeah,
if they don't have fact checkers or you know, some
sort of analysis of what's being shown.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, Increasingly s SPAN doesn't just turn on the camera
and show you the House chamber.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's a bunch of other stuff going on, oh talking heads. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
But Brian Lamb forty seven years ago, he had the idea,
got to give the guy mad credit for that. I
mean it really, you know, it's it's never had sizzle
se Span. It's always been very dry, and as Crozier suggested,
there's a virtue to that. You know, sometimes the sizzles
(31:04):
a little much, and they always have their callers, they
try to balance them through the years. This is, you know,
in and out of Sea Span along the way what
I've seen. So I give him credit. Brian Lamb, He's
going to continue his book show. He will continue that,
but having founded se Span, he is stepping back forty
(31:26):
seven years ago. He had the idea, Brian Lamb retiring. Well,
it's happened. A doctor has been charged in connection with
Matthew Perry's death and he's appeared in court and made
a plea deal. As you're aware, this is a wild
(31:47):
story to me, the Perry story, because the tentacles of
it extend so far beyond Matthew Perry. That and Leah
Remedy in the news in the next hour as well,
and back to the metrobus controversies, all of that in
the next hour. It's the Conway Show, Mark Thompson and
(32:08):
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Speaker 2 (32:13):
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