September 9, 2024 • 34 mins
KFI – Corbin Carson: Line fire update / Airport Fire sparks in Trabuco Canyon / GUEST – Steven Kreager: Retired LA Fireman / 4
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's kf I Am six and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Three major
fires here in southern California. There's some minor ones as well.
But you got the Bridge fire, You've got the line
fire in San Berndino. The Bridge fire is San Gabriel
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sort of like I don't know, it's near Azusa, not
in Azusa, but Azusa adjacent. Carzer, did you see that
fire coming in one in Azusa.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Zusa Glendora. Yeah, yeah, that's the one, yep, I can
get that. We were getting a good smell from that too.
We were kind of we're kind of tucked in between
that one and the big one.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So we've been feeling it and smelling it all week
in long.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Before we get to CARBN Carson. I have a message
for the heat. So if you're not the heat, if
you're not the hot temperatures outside, you can don't know,
good stuff, a glass of water or something. This is
just for the heat. Okay, if you're the heat, this
is just for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Stop stop And if you are the heat, you're a loser.
We're done with you take all that heat and get
onto Colorado, get into Saint Louis, Cleveland, and then go
f up New York and Washington DC. You notice the
heat's not a story on national news until it gets
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back to Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's going to be a story. All this heat that
we've had over the last week. It's all moving east
and it's going to cripple the Midwest, the South, and
the east. Just watch in a couple of days, it'll
be the lead story in all the newscasts. But when
we burn out here, nobody cares. Nobody cares at all.
Nobody cares all right, Corbyn Carson is with us more
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than thirty six thousand homes and other buildings threatened by
the San Berndino fire up near Running Springs.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Corbyn, h are you Bob?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Yeah, it's a very smoky, very windy up here, or
at least a little bit of wind coming up here,
but very hot up here, a lot of ash in
the air, hard to breathe, and that's just what the
fire crews are dealing with.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I don't know if you can hear that.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Win is actually starting to kick up right now where
I'm at at the base of the fire, and that's
near a mintone in San Bernardino County the drive over
from Orange County. Man, I got to tell you the
haze that many people can see hanging all over a
lot of areas of southern California today, it's like this smoky,
blurry condition that continues along that drive as I came
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into San Bernardino County this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And that's what's contributing to some of these air quality issues.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
We've been hearing about officials staying inside today, some schools
even warning parents that kids will be kept inside as
far as Orange County. But then as you come down
the two ten, you can start to see sort of
these wisps of white smoke dot the mountain side, but
you can barely see these because even the mountains are
hardly visible through all this smoky haze. The white smoke
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is preferred, of course, to see, because it's the black
smoke that indicates those active flames.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
But the closer I got to the base of the fire,
the darker the sky.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Becomes, until it's just almost like another planet up here
with all the ash floating around. I mean, now you
can see the sun peak through every now and again,
which again I have been able to see a couple
of lines of fire along the ridge line. They don't
stay for long either whether crews are getting to them
or they just don't have anywhere to go again with
the wind and everything that's going on.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But hopefully if the weather the storms.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
All cooperate tonight, this can be another Last night was
a decent night for cruise up here, and hopefully they
can continue to clean up and mop up the remaining issues.
Right now, the eastern portion of this fire is the
main concern. It's heading towards Forest Falls, Angels Oaks, and
Seven Oaks, all of those you know, are under evacuation
orders right now. There has been a state of emergency
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called for San Bernardino County. I spoke with cal Fire
or we heard from CalFire Battalion TREEF Brent Pasqua. He
says the east side of this fire is again the
current concern and they're gonna really try to get a
control on this thing tonight.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
He and terrain have been really exhausting on this fire.
Very steep country, very rocky terrain. Again, the fuel the
brush is ready to burn. We've had triple digit temperatures
now for consecutive days on end, and it's just prime
for a major fire. We have a lot of aircraft
on this fire, large air tankers, many helicopters, and we
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have over seventeen hundred firefighters fighting this fight.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, fifteen helicopters in all, and which includes the Southern
California's Quick Reaction for US, which is kind of cool
that is there. That's the large It includes three of
the largest wildfire helicopters in the world.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Tim there are three of the forty seven Chinooks.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
They've already dropped more than a million gallons of water
on eighty five fires.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
This year been busy and we're just kicking into a
fire season.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
What's cool about those is they can drop three thousand
gallons of water per drop, and they do it in tandem,
so you're like three thousand, three thousand, three thousand right behind.
And I'm told that this has been a huge help
on this fire since the fire started. They've been dropping
water every fire every night since that started. They work
at night, and that again the fire started on Thursday,
and then again a total of fifteen helicopters. But the
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problem being that they got to try to get through
some of these hazy conditions and then some of the
other things. We're seeing a lot of agencies out here,
more than you know, two hundred engines, thirty five dozers,
thirty seven hand crews, just a lot trying to get
a control of this.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I saw some footage I think it was the Running
Springs fire, where the fire was coming up the hill
and you saw fire firefighters running. And anytime you see
firefighters running, it's bad. It's bad. Yeah, it's horrible. So
what's the weather like right now? Is it one hundred
out there?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
It's well, it was one hundred and six when I
got up here. Currently we're yeah, it sounded a little
under one hundred. Obviously that's gonna change depending or you know,
how far up an elevation you are or how far down.
And it's you know, again, hard to breathe, very smoky
out here. And I stopped by one of the two
evacuation sites that are being offered for this fire. The
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one of them is that the Jesse Turner Health and
Fitness Community Center in Fontana. I spoke with Red Crosses
Christine Welch. She says people have been coming, they're coming
in there to get their rest, they charge their cell phone,
maybe just to you know, collect your bearings after being
kicked out of your home.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It just relocated. Yesterday, we had another shelter open in Highland,
but it was an evacuation area, so again we transitioned
to it to a safe area here in Fontana. We
have seen multiple people coming in and out to last
night we had over like sixty seven people come in
and stay. We also have animal care partner on site,
so again pets are welcome. They're housed in a separate
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area too, but again they're in an air conditioning area.
They get their food or their water, and again we
know people love their pets too, So again consider your
pets and your evacuation plan and when you leave.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
And some of the people I spoke to there said
they heard these conditions. Some are upset that they left
now that they know what happened, but they understand that
they need to They need to leave when they're told to.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But I was hearing that, you know, it was just go.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Ahead and once they leave, they're out. They can't get
back in.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Well yes, And the biggest concern being that when you're
in the thick of things is the way I was
told is so, you know, so ashy up there they're
hearing thunder, which is strange. There was their own weather conditions,
you know, hundreds of lightning strikes which were contributing to this,
and the biggest issue being that.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
There's only one way in and one AA or a
few ways in and out.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
And then when you have you know, fire crews coming
in and people trying to get out at the last minute,
that can be terrible. So a lot of those people
telling me, you know, they had to get out as
soon as they could.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But one guy told me this. You know, he's been
living up here in the mountain areas his whole life
and this is the worst he's seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Corvin, when you said you went to an evacuation center,
you went to talk to people. You didn't go to
sleep and move your stuff in and get food.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right, No, No, I went to go talk to a
couple of people.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't know about you guys, all right, buddy, I
really appreciate you coming on and check back with you much. Yeah,
the best, Corbyn Carson. And then we got Chris running
out to the Tribuco fire. We're going to talk to
her soon and then we've got an LA retired LA
County fire captain, and we'll talk to Steve Krieger about
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he's the retired fire captain.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Man oh Man.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
These fires, they when they open up and they start,
they explode. That one in Tribuco Canyon is unbelievable. The
you know, there was a helicopter I think it was
Channel five or Channel four it was over that fire
and they were at nine thousand feet and the plume
of smoke it looked like a mushroom cloud and that
was like ten to fifteen thousand feet.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Above where they were. So it's radical out there, brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But thank god that Tribuco fire and the fire near
Zuzah Glendora didn't start last Thursday like the Running Springs
fire did.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
This could have been a disaster.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We're gonna get much cooler weather this week. The heat
is finally leaving us. It's moving on. It's had it
with us, and we've had it with the heat, and
now it looks like we're going to be in for
some cooling starting on Wednesday Tomorrow. Is still hot ninety
five in the San Fernando Valley Wednesday seven eighty two,
Thursday seventy nine is the high. Fifty nine is the
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low on Thursday. Seventy nine is the high on Thursday.
So we need to as long as we can get
to Thursday. I think we'll all be relieved to get
rid of this heat. But they said, you know, it's
going to cool down to seventy nine in the valley
on Thursday. I don't know if I believe that. I
think these one hundred and five have They've heated up
buildings and cement and dirt, and we've really been in
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an oven for the last five or six days. I
think it's going to take a little while to cool
this valley down in southern California. I think we're still
going to get into the nineties on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, no, please,
I hate this heat. I can't stand it. I didn't
go anywhere this week weekend. I sat in sighed and
just you know, lost money on TVG all right, we're
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live on KFI. We are on all of these fires.
We've got three major fires burning. We've got corporate cars
that we just talked to up in the Running Springs area,
and then we had another fire burning up in the
Glendora A Zuza area and then the Tribuco fire as well,
So all three of them we will cover them live.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Four fires burning here in southern California. We have the
Airport fire, all right, the Airport fire, relatively do that's
the Orange County one and eighteen acres burning. It's got
three four planes on it right now, four planes dropping
water or files check on it now. It started at
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one twenty one pm today and no cause on that fire.
Then we have the Bridge fire and that's that's the
one that I think Krozier saw on his way in. Yeah,
that's one in San Gabriel Reservoir. That's not threatening any
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houses or any cities, any buildings.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That's way up in the forest.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Then you got the Sunset fire that nobody's talking about,
and that's fifty acres. It started at three o'clock and
it's been updated about a half hour ago, and that's
burning off.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It's between Beaumont and Banning.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And that fire is burning just a little bit south
of the ten freeway between Beaumont and Banning. And then
you've got the huge fire, the line fire. This one
is massive, three percent contained twenty three six and one acres,
and that's the one that they're really really concerned about
because that's the one that's headed up towards the mountains.
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It's already in the mountains, but that's one that's headed
up towards you know, Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead. If
it can roll and it goes exactly north. A lot
of these fires tend to burn east because of the weather,
and we're going to get an onshore breeze over the
next couple of days, so it's going to push this
fire eastbound. But if it went directly north, it would
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go right into Lake Arrowhead. If it continues to burn northeast,
that will going to Big Bear. So they've got to
get a handle on this fire. This one is the
is the big one. But a lot of people were
calling in talking about the Tribuco fire, which I believe
they'll call in the Airport fire, and that's currently one
three and eighteen acres and that again, it's not burning
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as close to Holmes as it looks on the map.
If you look at it on TV, it's not as close.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
As you think.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They got a lot of Foster Track. A lot of
firefighters are in and around those neighborhoods. I think it's
my El Camino is in there. Also a Tribuco Masa
Park is in that area. And so if you live
in that area, it looks like the fire is coming
down on you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The firefighters doing a great job keeping that east of
those of that housing area in Rancho Santa Margarita. And
those are some very expensive homes in Rancho Santa Margarita.
Now there are most of the homes or track homes
where they're right next to each other. It easier for
the firefighters to defend that space. The people that have
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a lot of money. Look, the people live in Rancho
Santa Margarita, they've got money. But the people who have
more money who live in that area have built up
in the hills and that's where it's very very dangerous
and also very expensive to get fire insurance, very very expensive.
All right, we're gonna we're gonna keep an eye on.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
All these fires.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Let's there's an update here on the Bridge fire, which
is the one in Tribuco Canyon burning right now in
Tribuco Can.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
The Bridge fire in the National Forest has scorge stereerly
thirteen hundred acre so far.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'm sorry, this is the This is the Bridge fire.
The Airport fire is the Tribuco Canyon fire. We'll get
to that as well, but this is the Bridge fire
in the San Berndina Mountains.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
The Bridge fire in the Angelos National Forest has scorge
stereerly thirteen hundred acre so far.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The evacuation orders.
Speaker 11 (14:20):
Are in effect for the Eastpour communities of Camp Williams Resort,
which includes a mobile home park and the nearby river community.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay, that's the Bridge fire.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is the Tribuco fire, which was updated just about
twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
This is a big one. In Orange County.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
A mandatory evacuation order now in effect for the area
of Rancho Santa Margarita, specifically Rose Canyon Road, Tripuco Canyon
Creek Road, Tribuco Oaks Drive, Choplin Loop, and Cook's Corner.
You could see that fire crews are now making their
way through the neighborhood of Robinson Ranch, LA. Orange County
Sheriff are now going door to door along some of
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those blocks, evacuating and giving the order to evacuate to
some of those neighbors. This is all happening in the
hills just to the east of that neighborhood. You're looking
at a three hundred acre fire that has simply exploded
in the last two hours.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, now it's up to thirteen hundred acres. So this
update was at three point thirty, which is about an
hour ago, and in that hour it is increased by
one thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The Line fire is the big one, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If it gets out of control, it's only three percent contained,
can find its way up into the Arrowhead Arrowbear Big
Bear area and do a lot of damage.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
There's a lot of people that are up all night.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, that was the one that was creating its own
weather site.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, yes, not wild.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it looked like an atom bomb went off, you know,
with the smoke, the you know, the plume of smoke.
It's unreal how these things have just exploded. But you know,
we remember we've had two unbelievable winters of almost record
breaking rain. We had record breaking rain this year and
nearly record breaking rain last year, and so there's a
lot there's a lot of trees and a lot of
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fuel up in those mountains to burn and there and
the people who two years ago were snowed in for
four weeks, an arrowhead and big bear. Now you're up
for a different reason. It's hotter than hell, and these
fires you can see it, you can smell it, and
you know that these things can roll. And so the
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line fire is what really we really need to concentrate on.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
As the Line fire continues to burn in the San
Bernadino Mountains, some of the most active firefighting is on
the east as the flames pushed toward Highway thirty eight
near Mentone.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
The fire behavior today stands just like the last couple
of days, it's going to be unpredictable. We have thunderstorms
that are going to move in midday.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
To the west.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
Firefighters are keeping watch near Running Springs, where there were
some real close calls over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
It was pretty dark in here.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We saw flames creeping up actually kind of just before
a house caught fire.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's where the firefighters were running for. And again, anytime
you see firefighters running away from a fire, it's bad.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's bad. It's serious.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And they miscalculated where they should be standing because they
were high tailing it.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
If you want to see how close the fire got
to some of the homes in Running Springs. This is
a perfect example. You can see that home right there.
And then Saturday, late in the afternoon, the fire came
roaring up this hill stopped in part because of the rain.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I've not seen a rain God drops that big and
it was wild.
Speaker 12 (17:29):
As you can look down here, you can see an
edge where the where it just stopped.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
So far, the fire is only three percent contained. Hand
crews working carefully and methodically in steep, rugged terrain in
the Samberdadeno Mountains.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, that's brutal, brutal to work up there.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Meantime, more than twelve thousand people remained under evacuation orders,
most of those folks in the sam Berdadeno Mountains.
Speaker 14 (17:55):
If you're in one of those mountain communities, we really
urge you to leave sooner than later. That way we
can cut down on the amount of people that are
on the roadways and have it safe for our firefighters
to come out there and protect the property.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know, that's always the biggest dilemma, do you stay
or do you go?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Maybe if I had a house up there, I'd probably
stay by, because once you leave you're gone and it
could be a week or two before you're allowed back,
and nobody's going to protect your home like you are. Well,
that's not true. The firefighters do a pretty good job.
But you have your heart and soul in that house.
Maybe it's a house you've had for a long time,
it's been in the family for decades, and you want
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to protect it. I get that, but man, it's always
a huge dilemma. Do you stick around or do you
high tail it?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And where do you go? A lot of people, you know,
what do you do?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You check in a hotel and sit there and watch
TV or listening KFI. Maybe maybe all right, we come back.
We have a retired fire captain from La County fire
guy named Steve Krieger.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's going to give us some great information on these fires.
We're covering all four of them, all four fire, the
Line Fire, the Tribuco Canyon Fire, the Bridge Fire, and
then what they're calling the Sunset Fire, the smallest of
them in Riverside, San Berndino, between well between Banning and Beaumont.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Four fires burning. The Line fire we talked about that.
We had Corbyn Carson on. We also have Chris Adler
heading out to the Tribuco Canyon fire, which they're calling
the airport fire. And then we have the Bridge fire
to the line, the bridge and the airport, and then
the Sunset fire. So we got four fires burning, all
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of my thinker are out of control. The only one
that has any kind of containment is the line fire
at three percent. But if you look at the other ones,
the airport fire zero percent contained, three hundred and eighteen acres,
the Bridge fire one two hundred and fifty five acres
zero percent contain, the Sunset fire zero and contained, and
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the line fire three percent contained.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
But I don't know what that means. So let's talk
to Steve Kraeger.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He is a retired fire captain with La County Fire Department. Steve,
how you Bob Hey, Jim Ding, Dong Digg, anybody?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So I got a bunch of questions here. But first
of all, I know in Europe they let these fires
burn more than they do in the United States. The
United States, I don't know where we came up with
this and why we differ, but we try to put
all these fires out as soon as possible.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Is that a bad plan in the long term?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Not really not. When you when you have homes they're threatened,
you gotta you got to get that fire out before
it gets to the homes.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Sure, I get that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And what about what about equipment, planes and helicopters. Do
we have enough for all for of these fires?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
I believe so there because there's a lot of them
are contract uh in private contract helicopters and air tankers
that that served the need. They come from all over.
I noticed the planes, the tankers that came up on
the Orange County fire and Tribucal Canyon. They came out
of Ramona down San Diego County, but they're filmed out
in Hemmet so so that there's a lot of resources available,
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and if need be, the Air National Guard will load
up what they call the MAPS system, the Mobile Air
Firefighting System. It's a skid mount that loads up into
the back tail geat of those big C one thirty
cargo planes and they'll activate the pose for additional resources.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But that is fairly dangerous to do, especially in the
line fire where you have eighty percent you know, steep.
These mountains are sometimes eighty percent and you can't you
can't crawl on those. That's a steep mountain. I don't
know how you fight that with the heat, the wind
and the steep terrain.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
Yeah, they It just depends on the terrain.
Speaker 14 (21:50):
You know.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
They try to paint the ridges with the pause check
with the air tankers. They try to get in there
with hand cruiser or they can, and bulldozers they can.
And depending on the elevation, whether you're dealing with brush
or you're dealing with timber. So it's a different ballgame
when you get up there, depending on we get to
different elevations.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Who takes the lead in a fire, Like if La
County showed up at one of these fires in the mountains,
I don't know here in Los Angeles or you know,
maybe maybe you're in LA County when cal Fire comes in,
do they take over or do you guys?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Or do you does cal Fire work for you guys?
You guys work for cal Fire.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
A little bit of boat. But what they do they
have is what's called unified demand. So let's say you
have a fire like that, maybe the Bridge fire that's
on the border of La County area and the Forest
Service area. They may in that area, they may have
a unified demand where you have a chief from both
the Forest Service Anton LA County Fire Department working jointly
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as incident commanders on that fire, and they work in
conjunction with each other. And it also depends on in
La County you have state responsibility lands because we don't
have Califire and La County. La County Fire Department UH
takes the opera and takes over for Califire in La County.
There's a couple other counties. I think Orange County does
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that too, where they handle it. But once you get
a fire over a certain size, you call in Califire
people to manage the resources, finances and things like that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right well, will they will they ask for you know,
the line fire, the bridge fire, or perhaps the airport fire.
Will they ask La County for helicopters or La City?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
They will if need be, if they run out of resources,
they'll they call the Region one coordinator for LA and
Orange County. I think it's Ventura County also is La
County is the lead for Region one and that's who
they go to when they need when they're out of
resources within their county. They call Region one. Region one
that starts getting more resources from other areas, and then
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it goes to the state where you get resources from
all over the state.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And when you run into people who have been you know,
a mandatory eventvacuation and people have waited too long and
they clog up the roads. Is that something that really
pisses firefighters off that they can't get up those roads
because those people were told to evacuate and ignored it.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
It does create a problem that that's why I want
people to evacuate as soon as possible, be ready and
get out with that already set go program of have
things ready when you're in an area like that, and
get out of there so you can get fire engines
in because a lot of times the very first in
engines or Type one engines, which are regular city type
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engines that drive on pavement and you have narrow roads,
you need to get the fire engine in there and
get the people out of there. People need to be
ready to go right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And also I was always wondering, maybe as a kid,
maybe not so much as a dolt, because you know,
there could be some problems, but why don't they have
a three foot diameter hose stick in the ocean, put
a long ass pipe on it, and just throw ten
trillion gallons on it overnight.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Well, that was much easier said than done. That's a
long way to go to get water out of the ocean.
I know, sometimes when the water's calm, the super scoopers
can get water out of the ocean. But that's not
the easiest thing in the world. They do have a
lot of what they call them now called Hella hydrants.
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It's a open top water tank on some of these
mountaintops and the helicopter can go there and get water
out of that tank, and the topter can remotely control
it having it being filled, so they can get water
more quickly rather than having to have a fire engine
pump water to them.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And who's preventing cal fire or you know, the state
of California or Samberg, Dino Country, La County, who's preventing
Because I know that there was a plan years and
years ago for every ten miles to do a half
mile break right through the mountains. I know it doesn't
look good, it's ugly as hell, but at least you
can have a natural fire line every ten miles so
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these things wouldn't explode into huge disastrous fires.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
I think that still goes on. I think the I
know in La County during the off season, the heavy
equipment crews or their bulldozers will go out and improve
some of these fire breaks. So they'll do it by hand.
They'll go out there and you know, like even with
the inmate crewise and widen these fire brakes so that
the fire's more easily controlled. But it just depends on
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the jurisdiction and environmental concerns and things like that. So
we used to do that when I was on a
hand crew. We'd even go over to Catalina Island and
cut handbrakes along the ridge tops there, and then we
come back with a pre emergent herbicide to keep the
brush from growing back on those fire breaks.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oh that's interesting, I like weed killer.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Is this a true story or falls that occasionally? You know,
back in the nineteen nineties or so, when you had
a lot of the prisoner inmate cruise that occasionally a
guy driving the you know, flying the helic after a
dump a bunch of water on them just to just
to f with them.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Is that true?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
I don't believe that's true. There's been a lot of
stories like that. I know there are stories about them
dropping water if they saw a white helmet, which was
achieve But now I think they're very professional. They want
to drop water on the fire sometimes that you know,
the hand crews are right where they need to drop
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and you get hit and what does that feel like?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
If you ever been hit?
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Yeah, and water's not too bad. And depending on what
type of copter and how much water is coming out
of it as a really big three thousand gallon tank
or there's a three hundred and sixty on tank, it's
not too bad. But foz check because it sticks together
and it's kind of like consistency of tomato soup. When
that hits you, and the plane's coming in and pretty fast, great,
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that fose jack's coming down at you at the same
speed as the plane. Wow, And that can hurt. So
you you know, you'd always face the plane and hold
on your helmet and hold your hand tools out to
the side and make sure you don't get flipped over
by the drop. But hope. Usually they're making drops along
the ridgetops, right, not ridgetops, And it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Must be hell trying to get that fause check out
of your hair at night.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
Oh man, it's it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And it.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Dries pretty quick. So you have this caked up stuff
on in you know, on your on your slothes and
it kind of soaks through your pants and so it's
shaping your legs. So yeah, it's not the best thing
in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
All right, funny, appreciate you coming on. Steve Kraigor, Thank you,
La County Fire Captain retired. We're keeping eye on all
four of these fires.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
You're listening to Tim Conway Toun. You're on Demya from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We are on fire Watch twenty twenty four and we
got a lot of fires burning. And if you're not
in a fire area, you can still listen to the program,
right and if there's ever a fire in your area,
you're gonna be glad that we do fire coverage. So
just because you live in you know, Newport Beach or
Seal Beach or Hermosa Beach or Manhattan Beach or Santa
(29:06):
Monica Beach and these fires don't affect you well when
disaster comes to your area and we're and we're talking
about your area, earthquake fire, flood, whatever, You're gonna be
happy we do.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
So you owe it to those people in the fire
area to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You owe it to them because they're going to listen
when you're in trouble and we cover your area. So
don't make me come out there. This is a this
is a very important, very important. We're gonna have Rick
ds on today. But the fires broke out, and I thought,
and he said, oh, he goes, let me reschedule for
another day this week.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And I said, all right, that's a true professional.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So we've got the Line fire, the Tribuco fire, the
Bridge fire, and they're they're getting wild, especially this Tribuco
Canyon fire. This is everybody in Orange County can see it.
Everybody's looking at it. When you're driving, if you're on
the five freeway, the four or five.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Is Angel with us? Is Angel Martinez with us? Is
the Angel?
Speaker 13 (30:07):
You with us?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We potter up, No, who's in today? Isn't it is Angel?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And today?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Mighty No, it is Michael Morris or Michael Morrise.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, all right, but anyway, the Tourico Tribuco Canyon, that's
where the toll road is there that goes along the
foothills and it's east to northeast of the five freeway,
uh considerably north the four or five freeway. And but
there's you know that that there's a lot of very
expensive homes in that area. And they and for some reason,
and thank god, they did this. It's an unbelievable clearance
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that they have between their homes and the mountains. There
must be two or three hundred yards of clearance there,
which is fantastic. That's exactly what the fire department wants.
That's what insurers want. They don't want the you know,
trees going right up to your house.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And I know it's ugly.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I know you'd rather have trees there. You want to
live like you're in the four. But I'm telling you
that could save your home. So that that is great news.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
All right. Update on the airport.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Fire, Ladies and gentlemen, the airport fire, that's the Tribuco
Canyon fire.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Find out what's going on with this fire.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You're looking at the northern flank of the fire making
its march up the hill towards Santiago Peak. You can
see all the heavy brush that's out here. That is
a lot of brush that is left to be burnt.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
As I come out to a wide shot, you'll see
that northern flank continuing to work uphill more of it
to the south side. You can see through the smoke itself,
just climbing up the hill pretty quickly here, burning fully
out of control. As I come down the hill, you're
looking at the lower land areas that are burning as well.
They have on the northern flank down lower have started
to put more fire retardant lines down on that line
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to keep it from spreading.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Now you know that we have not seen knock on,
where's wood around here?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Knock on wood? We have not seen what we have
seen in the.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Past in Anheim Hill, remember one house after another after
another after another burned to the ground. And then we
saw it in the San Ferndanna Valleys Granada Hills. Remember
when that fire went through Silmar and then through a
north Ridge Granada Hills area and there's one house after
another after another after another. And we're not seeing that
this time because people have they they they are their
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hip to the quip. They know that if you have
a decent amount of coverage of just dirt, no foliage,
empty space between your house and the and the the
next close to the shrubs trees that you're gonna your
house has a probably a ninety eight percent chance of surviving.
But when these winds kick up and it gets rolling
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into one of these homes, man, that's when it's two
and then twenty five, fifty and one hundred. That's where
the real disaster happens.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Further north, And then as I go further down canyon,
you will see those fire retardants going to continue all
the way down to the point of origin where the
fire started. On the southern flank you can't see it
right now. There are are helicopters that are attacking that side.
They're putting water, dropping helicopters on the lines there. Here's
a little bit of it.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And it's hot out there. It's hot.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's one hundred and six accorn to Corbyn Carson one
oh six out there in San Bernardino when he got
there right here.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
But they're hitting that side of the fire with the helicopters,
the north side of the fire, with the big tankers
that are here. There have at least three or four
tankers on scene that are dropping that fire retardant. But
the big smoke and the big flame is uphill up Canyon,
burning away from those homes down lower. Now there are
mandatory evacuations and voluntary evacuations in place. The mandatory evacuation
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so far for one street it's called Meander Lane, that's
in Rancho Santa Margarita. And the voluntary areas are Rose
Canyon Road, Tribuco Creek Road, Tribuco Canyon Road, Tribuco Oaks Drive,
Droppling Loop, and Cook's Corner.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, those are the streets that you got to be
aware of. And the fires right now, the Airport fire,
that's the one they're talking about just now, thirteen hundred
acre zero percent contained, the Bridge fire twelve hundred acres
zero percent contain, the Sunset fire and Riverside zero percent containment,
and then the Line fire three percent containment, twenty three
thousand acres that'll probably go up to forty or fifty
(34:14):
by sunrise tomorrow. We'll keep an eye on all these
fires for you, all four of them right here on
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It's kf I Am six and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Three major
fires here in southern California. There's some minor ones as well.
But you got the Bridge fire, You've got the line
fire in San Berndino. The Bridge fire is San Gabriel
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sort of like I don't know, it's near Azusa, not
in Azusa, but Azusa adjacent. Carzer, did you see that
fire coming in one in Azusa.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Zusa Glendora. Yeah, yeah, that's the one, yep, I can
get that. We were getting a good smell from that too.
We were kind of we're kind of tucked in between
that one and the big one.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So we've been feeling it and smelling it all week
in long.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Before we get to CARBN Carson. I have a message
for the heat. So if you're not the heat, if
you're not the hot temperatures outside, you can don't know,
good stuff, a glass of water or something. This is
just for the heat. Okay, if you're the heat, this
is just for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Stop stop And if you are the heat, you're a loser.
We're done with you take all that heat and get
onto Colorado, get into Saint Louis, Cleveland, and then go
f up New York and Washington DC. You notice the
heat's not a story on national news until it gets
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back to Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's going to be a story. All this heat that
we've had over the last week. It's all moving east
and it's going to cripple the Midwest, the South, and
the east. Just watch in a couple of days, it'll
be the lead story in all the newscasts. But when
we burn out here, nobody cares. Nobody cares at all.
Nobody cares all right, Corbyn Carson is with us more
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than thirty six thousand homes and other buildings threatened by
the San Berndino fire up near Running Springs.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Corbyn, h are you Bob?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Yeah, it's a very smoky, very windy up here, or
at least a little bit of wind coming up here,
but very hot up here, a lot of ash in
the air, hard to breathe, and that's just what the
fire crews are dealing with.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I don't know if you can hear that.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Win is actually starting to kick up right now where
I'm at at the base of the fire, and that's
near a mintone in San Bernardino County the drive over
from Orange County. Man, I got to tell you the
haze that many people can see hanging all over a
lot of areas of southern California today, it's like this smoky,
blurry condition that continues along that drive as I came
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into San Bernardino County this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And that's what's contributing to some of these air quality issues.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
We've been hearing about officials staying inside today, some schools
even warning parents that kids will be kept inside as
far as Orange County. But then as you come down
the two ten, you can start to see sort of
these wisps of white smoke dot the mountain side, but
you can barely see these because even the mountains are
hardly visible through all this smoky haze. The white smoke
(03:00):
is preferred, of course, to see, because it's the black
smoke that indicates those active flames.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
But the closer I got to the base of the fire,
the darker the sky.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Becomes, until it's just almost like another planet up here
with all the ash floating around. I mean, now you
can see the sun peak through every now and again,
which again I have been able to see a couple
of lines of fire along the ridge line. They don't
stay for long either whether crews are getting to them
or they just don't have anywhere to go again with
the wind and everything that's going on.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But hopefully if the weather the storms.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
All cooperate tonight, this can be another Last night was
a decent night for cruise up here, and hopefully they
can continue to clean up and mop up the remaining issues.
Right now, the eastern portion of this fire is the
main concern. It's heading towards Forest Falls, Angels Oaks, and
Seven Oaks, all of those you know, are under evacuation
orders right now. There has been a state of emergency
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called for San Bernardino County. I spoke with cal Fire
or we heard from CalFire Battalion TREEF Brent Pasqua. He
says the east side of this fire is again the
current concern and they're gonna really try to get a
control on this thing tonight.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
He and terrain have been really exhausting on this fire.
Very steep country, very rocky terrain. Again, the fuel the
brush is ready to burn. We've had triple digit temperatures
now for consecutive days on end, and it's just prime
for a major fire. We have a lot of aircraft
on this fire, large air tankers, many helicopters, and we
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have over seventeen hundred firefighters fighting this fight.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, fifteen helicopters in all, and which includes the Southern
California's Quick Reaction for US, which is kind of cool
that is there. That's the large It includes three of
the largest wildfire helicopters in the world.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Tim there are three of the forty seven Chinooks.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
They've already dropped more than a million gallons of water
on eighty five fires.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
This year been busy and we're just kicking into a
fire season.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
What's cool about those is they can drop three thousand
gallons of water per drop, and they do it in tandem,
so you're like three thousand, three thousand, three thousand right behind.
And I'm told that this has been a huge help
on this fire since the fire started. They've been dropping
water every fire every night since that started. They work
at night, and that again the fire started on Thursday,
and then again a total of fifteen helicopters. But the
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problem being that they got to try to get through
some of these hazy conditions and then some of the
other things. We're seeing a lot of agencies out here,
more than you know, two hundred engines, thirty five dozers,
thirty seven hand crews, just a lot trying to get
a control of this.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I saw some footage I think it was the Running
Springs fire, where the fire was coming up the hill
and you saw fire firefighters running. And anytime you see
firefighters running, it's bad. It's bad. Yeah, it's horrible. So
what's the weather like right now? Is it one hundred
out there?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
It's well, it was one hundred and six when I
got up here. Currently we're yeah, it sounded a little
under one hundred. Obviously that's gonna change depending or you know,
how far up an elevation you are or how far down.
And it's you know, again, hard to breathe, very smoky
out here. And I stopped by one of the two
evacuation sites that are being offered for this fire. The
(06:08):
one of them is that the Jesse Turner Health and
Fitness Community Center in Fontana. I spoke with Red Crosses
Christine Welch. She says people have been coming, they're coming
in there to get their rest, they charge their cell phone,
maybe just to you know, collect your bearings after being
kicked out of your home.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
It just relocated. Yesterday, we had another shelter open in Highland,
but it was an evacuation area, so again we transitioned
to it to a safe area here in Fontana. We
have seen multiple people coming in and out to last
night we had over like sixty seven people come in
and stay. We also have animal care partner on site,
so again pets are welcome. They're housed in a separate
(06:45):
area too, but again they're in an air conditioning area.
They get their food or their water, and again we
know people love their pets too, So again consider your
pets and your evacuation plan and when you leave.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
And some of the people I spoke to there said
they heard these conditions. Some are upset that they left
now that they know what happened, but they understand that
they need to They need to leave when they're told to.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But I was hearing that, you know, it was just go.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Ahead and once they leave, they're out. They can't get
back in.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Well yes, And the biggest concern being that when you're
in the thick of things is the way I was
told is so, you know, so ashy up there they're
hearing thunder, which is strange. There was their own weather conditions,
you know, hundreds of lightning strikes which were contributing to this,
and the biggest issue being that.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
There's only one way in and one AA or a
few ways in and out.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
And then when you have you know, fire crews coming
in and people trying to get out at the last minute,
that can be terrible. So a lot of those people
telling me, you know, they had to get out as
soon as they could.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But one guy told me this. You know, he's been
living up here in the mountain areas his whole life
and this is the worst he's seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Corvin, when you said you went to an evacuation center,
you went to talk to people. You didn't go to
sleep and move your stuff in and get food.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right, No, No, I went to go talk to a
couple of people.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't know about you guys, all right, buddy, I
really appreciate you coming on and check back with you much. Yeah,
the best, Corbyn Carson. And then we got Chris running
out to the Tribuco fire. We're going to talk to
her soon and then we've got an LA retired LA
County fire captain, and we'll talk to Steve Krieger about
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he's the retired fire captain.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Man oh Man.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
These fires, they when they open up and they start,
they explode. That one in Tribuco Canyon is unbelievable. The
you know, there was a helicopter I think it was
Channel five or Channel four it was over that fire
and they were at nine thousand feet and the plume
of smoke it looked like a mushroom cloud and that
was like ten to fifteen thousand feet.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Above where they were. So it's radical out there, brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But thank god that Tribuco fire and the fire near
Zuzah Glendora didn't start last Thursday like the Running Springs
fire did.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
This could have been a disaster.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We're gonna get much cooler weather this week. The heat
is finally leaving us. It's moving on. It's had it
with us, and we've had it with the heat, and
now it looks like we're going to be in for
some cooling starting on Wednesday Tomorrow. Is still hot ninety
five in the San Fernando Valley Wednesday seven eighty two,
Thursday seventy nine is the high. Fifty nine is the
(09:19):
low on Thursday. Seventy nine is the high on Thursday.
So we need to as long as we can get
to Thursday. I think we'll all be relieved to get
rid of this heat. But they said, you know, it's
going to cool down to seventy nine in the valley
on Thursday. I don't know if I believe that. I
think these one hundred and five have They've heated up
buildings and cement and dirt, and we've really been in
(09:44):
an oven for the last five or six days. I
think it's going to take a little while to cool
this valley down in southern California. I think we're still
going to get into the nineties on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, no, please,
I hate this heat. I can't stand it. I didn't
go anywhere this week weekend. I sat in sighed and
just you know, lost money on TVG all right, we're
(10:05):
live on KFI. We are on all of these fires.
We've got three major fires burning. We've got corporate cars
that we just talked to up in the Running Springs area,
and then we had another fire burning up in the
Glendora A Zuza area and then the Tribuco fire as well,
So all three of them we will cover them live.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Four fires burning here in southern California. We have the
Airport fire, all right, the Airport fire, relatively do that's
the Orange County one and eighteen acres burning. It's got
three four planes on it right now, four planes dropping
water or files check on it now. It started at
(10:52):
one twenty one pm today and no cause on that fire.
Then we have the Bridge fire and that's that's the
one that I think Krozier saw on his way in. Yeah,
that's one in San Gabriel Reservoir. That's not threatening any
(11:12):
houses or any cities, any buildings.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That's way up in the forest.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Then you got the Sunset fire that nobody's talking about,
and that's fifty acres. It started at three o'clock and
it's been updated about a half hour ago, and that's
burning off.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It's between Beaumont and Banning.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And that fire is burning just a little bit south
of the ten freeway between Beaumont and Banning. And then
you've got the huge fire, the line fire. This one
is massive, three percent contained twenty three six and one acres,
and that's the one that they're really really concerned about
because that's the one that's headed up towards the mountains.
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It's already in the mountains, but that's one that's headed
up towards you know, Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead. If
it can roll and it goes exactly north. A lot
of these fires tend to burn east because of the weather,
and we're going to get an onshore breeze over the
next couple of days, so it's going to push this
fire eastbound. But if it went directly north, it would
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go right into Lake Arrowhead. If it continues to burn northeast,
that will going to Big Bear. So they've got to
get a handle on this fire. This one is the
is the big one. But a lot of people were
calling in talking about the Tribuco fire, which I believe
they'll call in the Airport fire, and that's currently one
three and eighteen acres and that again, it's not burning
(12:44):
as close to Holmes as it looks on the map.
If you look at it on TV, it's not as close.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
As you think.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They got a lot of Foster Track. A lot of
firefighters are in and around those neighborhoods. I think it's
my El Camino is in there. Also a Tribuco Masa
Park is in that area. And so if you live
in that area, it looks like the fire is coming
down on you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The firefighters doing a great job keeping that east of
those of that housing area in Rancho Santa Margarita. And
those are some very expensive homes in Rancho Santa Margarita.
Now there are most of the homes or track homes
where they're right next to each other. It easier for
the firefighters to defend that space. The people that have
(13:32):
a lot of money. Look, the people live in Rancho
Santa Margarita, they've got money. But the people who have
more money who live in that area have built up
in the hills and that's where it's very very dangerous
and also very expensive to get fire insurance, very very expensive.
All right, we're gonna we're gonna keep an eye on.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
All these fires.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Let's there's an update here on the Bridge fire, which
is the one in Tribuco Canyon burning right now in
Tribuco Can.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
The Bridge fire in the National Forest has scorge stereerly
thirteen hundred acre so far.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'm sorry, this is the This is the Bridge fire.
The Airport fire is the Tribuco Canyon fire. We'll get
to that as well, but this is the Bridge fire
in the San Berndina Mountains.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
The Bridge fire in the Angelos National Forest has scorge
stereerly thirteen hundred acre so far.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The evacuation orders.
Speaker 11 (14:20):
Are in effect for the Eastpour communities of Camp Williams Resort,
which includes a mobile home park and the nearby river community.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay, that's the Bridge fire.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is the Tribuco fire, which was updated just about
twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
This is a big one. In Orange County.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
A mandatory evacuation order now in effect for the area
of Rancho Santa Margarita, specifically Rose Canyon Road, Tripuco Canyon
Creek Road, Tribuco Oaks Drive, Choplin Loop, and Cook's Corner.
You could see that fire crews are now making their
way through the neighborhood of Robinson Ranch, LA. Orange County
Sheriff are now going door to door along some of
(14:57):
those blocks, evacuating and giving the order to evacuate to
some of those neighbors. This is all happening in the
hills just to the east of that neighborhood. You're looking
at a three hundred acre fire that has simply exploded
in the last two hours.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, now it's up to thirteen hundred acres. So this
update was at three point thirty, which is about an
hour ago, and in that hour it is increased by
one thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The Line fire is the big one, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If it gets out of control, it's only three percent contained,
can find its way up into the Arrowhead Arrowbear Big
Bear area and do a lot of damage.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
There's a lot of people that are up all night.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, that was the one that was creating its own
weather site.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, yes, not wild.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it looked like an atom bomb went off, you know,
with the smoke, the you know, the plume of smoke.
It's unreal how these things have just exploded. But you know,
we remember we've had two unbelievable winters of almost record
breaking rain. We had record breaking rain this year and
nearly record breaking rain last year, and so there's a
lot there's a lot of trees and a lot of
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fuel up in those mountains to burn and there and
the people who two years ago were snowed in for
four weeks, an arrowhead and big bear. Now you're up
for a different reason. It's hotter than hell, and these
fires you can see it, you can smell it, and
you know that these things can roll. And so the
(16:23):
line fire is what really we really need to concentrate on.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
As the Line fire continues to burn in the San
Bernadino Mountains, some of the most active firefighting is on
the east as the flames pushed toward Highway thirty eight
near Mentone.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
The fire behavior today stands just like the last couple
of days, it's going to be unpredictable. We have thunderstorms
that are going to move in midday.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
To the west.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
Firefighters are keeping watch near Running Springs, where there were
some real close calls over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
It was pretty dark in here.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We saw flames creeping up actually kind of just before
a house caught fire.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's where the firefighters were running for. And again, anytime
you see firefighters running away from a fire, it's bad.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's bad. It's serious.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And they miscalculated where they should be standing because they
were high tailing it.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
If you want to see how close the fire got
to some of the homes in Running Springs. This is
a perfect example. You can see that home right there.
And then Saturday, late in the afternoon, the fire came
roaring up this hill stopped in part because of the rain.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I've not seen a rain God drops that big and
it was wild.
Speaker 12 (17:29):
As you can look down here, you can see an
edge where the where it just stopped.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
So far, the fire is only three percent contained. Hand
crews working carefully and methodically in steep, rugged terrain in
the Samberdadeno Mountains.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, that's brutal, brutal to work up there.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Meantime, more than twelve thousand people remained under evacuation orders,
most of those folks in the sam Berdadeno Mountains.
Speaker 14 (17:55):
If you're in one of those mountain communities, we really
urge you to leave sooner than later. That way we
can cut down on the amount of people that are
on the roadways and have it safe for our firefighters
to come out there and protect the property.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know, that's always the biggest dilemma, do you stay
or do you go?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Maybe if I had a house up there, I'd probably
stay by, because once you leave you're gone and it
could be a week or two before you're allowed back,
and nobody's going to protect your home like you are. Well,
that's not true. The firefighters do a pretty good job.
But you have your heart and soul in that house.
Maybe it's a house you've had for a long time,
it's been in the family for decades, and you want
(18:31):
to protect it. I get that, but man, it's always
a huge dilemma. Do you stick around or do you
high tail it?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And where do you go? A lot of people, you know,
what do you do?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You check in a hotel and sit there and watch
TV or listening KFI. Maybe maybe all right, we come back.
We have a retired fire captain from La County fire
guy named Steve Krieger.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's going to give us some great information on these fires.
We're covering all four of them, all four fire, the
Line Fire, the Tribuco Canyon Fire, the Bridge Fire, and
then what they're calling the Sunset Fire, the smallest of
them in Riverside, San Berndino, between well between Banning and Beaumont.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Four fires burning. The Line fire we talked about that.
We had Corbyn Carson on. We also have Chris Adler
heading out to the Tribuco Canyon fire, which they're calling
the airport fire. And then we have the Bridge fire
to the line, the bridge and the airport, and then
the Sunset fire. So we got four fires burning, all
(19:40):
of my thinker are out of control. The only one
that has any kind of containment is the line fire
at three percent. But if you look at the other ones,
the airport fire zero percent contained, three hundred and eighteen acres,
the Bridge fire one two hundred and fifty five acres
zero percent contain, the Sunset fire zero and contained, and
(20:01):
the line fire three percent contained.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
But I don't know what that means. So let's talk
to Steve Kraeger.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He is a retired fire captain with La County Fire Department. Steve,
how you Bob Hey, Jim Ding, Dong Digg, anybody?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So I got a bunch of questions here. But first
of all, I know in Europe they let these fires
burn more than they do in the United States. The
United States, I don't know where we came up with
this and why we differ, but we try to put
all these fires out as soon as possible.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Is that a bad plan in the long term?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Not really not. When you when you have homes they're threatened,
you gotta you got to get that fire out before
it gets to the homes.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Sure, I get that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And what about what about equipment, planes and helicopters. Do
we have enough for all for of these fires?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
I believe so there because there's a lot of them
are contract uh in private contract helicopters and air tankers
that that served the need. They come from all over.
I noticed the planes, the tankers that came up on
the Orange County fire and Tribucal Canyon. They came out
of Ramona down San Diego County, but they're filmed out
in Hemmet so so that there's a lot of resources available,
(21:13):
and if need be, the Air National Guard will load
up what they call the MAPS system, the Mobile Air
Firefighting System. It's a skid mount that loads up into
the back tail geat of those big C one thirty
cargo planes and they'll activate the pose for additional resources.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But that is fairly dangerous to do, especially in the
line fire where you have eighty percent you know, steep.
These mountains are sometimes eighty percent and you can't you
can't crawl on those. That's a steep mountain. I don't
know how you fight that with the heat, the wind
and the steep terrain.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
Yeah, they It just depends on the terrain.
Speaker 14 (21:50):
You know.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
They try to paint the ridges with the pause check
with the air tankers. They try to get in there
with hand cruiser or they can, and bulldozers they can.
And depending on the elevation, whether you're dealing with brush
or you're dealing with timber. So it's a different ballgame
when you get up there, depending on we get to
different elevations.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Who takes the lead in a fire, Like if La
County showed up at one of these fires in the mountains,
I don't know here in Los Angeles or you know,
maybe maybe you're in LA County when cal Fire comes in,
do they take over or do you guys?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Or do you does cal Fire work for you guys?
You guys work for cal Fire.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
A little bit of boat. But what they do they
have is what's called unified demand. So let's say you
have a fire like that, maybe the Bridge fire that's
on the border of La County area and the Forest
Service area. They may in that area, they may have
a unified demand where you have a chief from both
the Forest Service Anton LA County Fire Department working jointly
(22:48):
as incident commanders on that fire, and they work in
conjunction with each other. And it also depends on in
La County you have state responsibility lands because we don't
have Califire and La County. La County Fire Department UH
takes the opera and takes over for Califire in La County.
There's a couple other counties. I think Orange County does
(23:09):
that too, where they handle it. But once you get
a fire over a certain size, you call in Califire
people to manage the resources, finances and things like that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right well, will they will they ask for you know,
the line fire, the bridge fire, or perhaps the airport fire.
Will they ask La County for helicopters or La City?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
They will if need be, if they run out of resources,
they'll they call the Region one coordinator for LA and
Orange County. I think it's Ventura County also is La
County is the lead for Region one and that's who
they go to when they need when they're out of
resources within their county. They call Region one. Region one
that starts getting more resources from other areas, and then
(23:52):
it goes to the state where you get resources from
all over the state.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And when you run into people who have been you know,
a mandatory eventvacuation and people have waited too long and
they clog up the roads. Is that something that really
pisses firefighters off that they can't get up those roads
because those people were told to evacuate and ignored it.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
It does create a problem that that's why I want
people to evacuate as soon as possible, be ready and
get out with that already set go program of have
things ready when you're in an area like that, and
get out of there so you can get fire engines
in because a lot of times the very first in
engines or Type one engines, which are regular city type
(24:32):
engines that drive on pavement and you have narrow roads,
you need to get the fire engine in there and
get the people out of there. People need to be
ready to go right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And also I was always wondering, maybe as a kid,
maybe not so much as a dolt, because you know,
there could be some problems, but why don't they have
a three foot diameter hose stick in the ocean, put
a long ass pipe on it, and just throw ten
trillion gallons on it overnight.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Well, that was much easier said than done. That's a
long way to go to get water out of the ocean.
I know, sometimes when the water's calm, the super scoopers
can get water out of the ocean. But that's not
the easiest thing in the world. They do have a
lot of what they call them now called Hella hydrants.
(25:20):
It's a open top water tank on some of these
mountaintops and the helicopter can go there and get water
out of that tank, and the topter can remotely control
it having it being filled, so they can get water
more quickly rather than having to have a fire engine
pump water to them.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And who's preventing cal fire or you know, the state
of California or Samberg, Dino Country, La County, who's preventing
Because I know that there was a plan years and
years ago for every ten miles to do a half
mile break right through the mountains. I know it doesn't
look good, it's ugly as hell, but at least you
can have a natural fire line every ten miles so
(25:57):
these things wouldn't explode into huge disastrous fires.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
I think that still goes on. I think the I
know in La County during the off season, the heavy
equipment crews or their bulldozers will go out and improve
some of these fire breaks. So they'll do it by hand.
They'll go out there and you know, like even with
the inmate crewise and widen these fire brakes so that
the fire's more easily controlled. But it just depends on
(26:23):
the jurisdiction and environmental concerns and things like that. So
we used to do that when I was on a
hand crew. We'd even go over to Catalina Island and
cut handbrakes along the ridge tops there, and then we
come back with a pre emergent herbicide to keep the
brush from growing back on those fire breaks.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oh that's interesting, I like weed killer.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Is this a true story or falls that occasionally? You know,
back in the nineteen nineties or so, when you had
a lot of the prisoner inmate cruise that occasionally a
guy driving the you know, flying the helic after a
dump a bunch of water on them just to just
to f with them.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Is that true?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
I don't believe that's true. There's been a lot of
stories like that. I know there are stories about them
dropping water if they saw a white helmet, which was
achieve But now I think they're very professional. They want
to drop water on the fire sometimes that you know,
the hand crews are right where they need to drop
(27:25):
and you get hit and what does that feel like?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
If you ever been hit?
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Yeah, and water's not too bad. And depending on what
type of copter and how much water is coming out
of it as a really big three thousand gallon tank
or there's a three hundred and sixty on tank, it's
not too bad. But foz check because it sticks together
and it's kind of like consistency of tomato soup. When
that hits you, and the plane's coming in and pretty fast, great,
(27:50):
that fose jack's coming down at you at the same
speed as the plane. Wow, And that can hurt. So
you you know, you'd always face the plane and hold
on your helmet and hold your hand tools out to
the side and make sure you don't get flipped over
by the drop. But hope. Usually they're making drops along
the ridgetops, right, not ridgetops, And it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Must be hell trying to get that fause check out
of your hair at night.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
Oh man, it's it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And it.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Dries pretty quick. So you have this caked up stuff
on in you know, on your on your slothes and
it kind of soaks through your pants and so it's
shaping your legs. So yeah, it's not the best thing
in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
All right, funny, appreciate you coming on. Steve Kraigor, Thank you,
La County Fire Captain retired. We're keeping eye on all
four of these fires.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
You're listening to Tim Conway Toun. You're on Demya from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We are on fire Watch twenty twenty four and we
got a lot of fires burning. And if you're not
in a fire area, you can still listen to the program,
right and if there's ever a fire in your area,
you're gonna be glad that we do fire coverage. So
just because you live in you know, Newport Beach or
Seal Beach or Hermosa Beach or Manhattan Beach or Santa
(29:06):
Monica Beach and these fires don't affect you well when
disaster comes to your area and we're and we're talking
about your area, earthquake fire, flood, whatever, You're gonna be
happy we do.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
So you owe it to those people in the fire
area to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You owe it to them because they're going to listen
when you're in trouble and we cover your area. So
don't make me come out there. This is a this
is a very important, very important. We're gonna have Rick
ds on today. But the fires broke out, and I thought,
and he said, oh, he goes, let me reschedule for
another day this week.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And I said, all right, that's a true professional.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So we've got the Line fire, the Tribuco fire, the
Bridge fire, and they're they're getting wild, especially this Tribuco
Canyon fire. This is everybody in Orange County can see it.
Everybody's looking at it. When you're driving, if you're on
the five freeway, the four or five.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Is Angel with us? Is Angel Martinez with us? Is
the Angel?
Speaker 13 (30:07):
You with us?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We potter up, No, who's in today? Isn't it is Angel?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And today?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Mighty No, it is Michael Morris or Michael Morrise.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, all right, but anyway, the Tourico Tribuco Canyon, that's
where the toll road is there that goes along the
foothills and it's east to northeast of the five freeway,
uh considerably north the four or five freeway. And but
there's you know that that there's a lot of very
expensive homes in that area. And they and for some reason,
and thank god, they did this. It's an unbelievable clearance
(30:41):
that they have between their homes and the mountains. There
must be two or three hundred yards of clearance there,
which is fantastic. That's exactly what the fire department wants.
That's what insurers want. They don't want the you know,
trees going right up to your house.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And I know it's ugly.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I know you'd rather have trees there. You want to
live like you're in the four. But I'm telling you
that could save your home. So that that is great news.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
All right. Update on the airport.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Fire, Ladies and gentlemen, the airport fire, that's the Tribuco
Canyon fire.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Find out what's going on with this fire.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You're looking at the northern flank of the fire making
its march up the hill towards Santiago Peak. You can
see all the heavy brush that's out here. That is
a lot of brush that is left to be burnt.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
As I come out to a wide shot, you'll see
that northern flank continuing to work uphill more of it
to the south side. You can see through the smoke itself,
just climbing up the hill pretty quickly here, burning fully
out of control. As I come down the hill, you're
looking at the lower land areas that are burning as well.
They have on the northern flank down lower have started
to put more fire retardant lines down on that line
(31:48):
to keep it from spreading.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Now you know that we have not seen knock on,
where's wood around here?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Knock on wood? We have not seen what we have
seen in the.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Past in Anheim Hill, remember one house after another after
another after another burned to the ground. And then we
saw it in the San Ferndanna Valleys Granada Hills. Remember
when that fire went through Silmar and then through a
north Ridge Granada Hills area and there's one house after
another after another after another. And we're not seeing that
this time because people have they they they are their
(32:20):
hip to the quip. They know that if you have
a decent amount of coverage of just dirt, no foliage,
empty space between your house and the and the the
next close to the shrubs trees that you're gonna your
house has a probably a ninety eight percent chance of surviving.
But when these winds kick up and it gets rolling
(32:42):
into one of these homes, man, that's when it's two
and then twenty five, fifty and one hundred. That's where
the real disaster happens.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Further north, And then as I go further down canyon,
you will see those fire retardants going to continue all
the way down to the point of origin where the
fire started. On the southern flank you can't see it
right now. There are are helicopters that are attacking that side.
They're putting water, dropping helicopters on the lines there. Here's
a little bit of it.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And it's hot out there. It's hot.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's one hundred and six accorn to Corbyn Carson one
oh six out there in San Bernardino when he got
there right here.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
But they're hitting that side of the fire with the helicopters,
the north side of the fire, with the big tankers
that are here. There have at least three or four
tankers on scene that are dropping that fire retardant. But
the big smoke and the big flame is uphill up Canyon,
burning away from those homes down lower. Now there are
mandatory evacuations and voluntary evacuations in place. The mandatory evacuation
(33:35):
so far for one street it's called Meander Lane, that's
in Rancho Santa Margarita. And the voluntary areas are Rose
Canyon Road, Tribuco Creek Road, Tribuco Canyon Road, Tribuco Oaks Drive,
Droppling Loop, and Cook's Corner.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, those are the streets that you got to be
aware of. And the fires right now, the Airport fire,
that's the one they're talking about just now, thirteen hundred
acre zero percent contained, the Bridge fire twelve hundred acres
zero percent contain, the Sunset fire and Riverside zero percent containment,
and then the Line fire three percent containment, twenty three
thousand acres that'll probably go up to forty or fifty
(34:14):
by sunrise tomorrow. We'll keep an eye on all these
fires for you, all four of them right here on
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