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And I'm Lindsay Davis. Tonight's meeting could be the most
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Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Kamala Harris, so good debase, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you It's
an honor to have you both here.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Tonight, good evening. We are looking forward to a spirited
and thoughtful.
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Debate, So let's get started.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters
repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is
the economy and the cost of living in this country.
Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four
years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight
often asks his supporters, are you better off than you
were four years ago? When it comes to the economy?
Do you believe Americans are better off that they were
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four years ago?
Speaker 8 (02:44):
So I was raised as a middle class kid, and
I am actually the only person on this stage who
has a plan that is about lifting up the middle
class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition,
the aspirations, the dream of the American people, and that
is why I imagine and have actually a plan to
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build what I call an opportunity economy.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing,
and the cost of housing is too expensive far too
many people. We know that young families need support to
raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax
cut for those families of six thousand dollars, which is
the largest child tax credit that we have given in
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a long time, so that those young families can afford
to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes
for their children.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
My passion, one of them is small businesses.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
I was actually my mother raised my sister and me,
but there was a woman who helped raise us. We
call her our second mother. She was a small business owner.
I love our small businesses. My plan is to give
a fifty thousand dollars tax deduction to start up small businesses,
knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy.
My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to
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do what he has done before, which is to provide
a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will
result in five trillion dollars to America's deficit. My opponent
has a plan that I call the Trump's sales Tax,
which would be a twenty percent tax on everyday goods
that you rely on.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
To get through the month.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually
result for middle class families in about four thousand dollars
more a year because of his policies and his ideas
about what should be the backs of middle class people
paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
President Trump will give you two minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an
incorrect statement. She knows that we're doing tariffs in other countries.
Other countries are going to finally, after seventy five years,
pay us back for all that we've done for the world,
and the tariff will be some stantial in some cases.
I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know,
from China.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
In fact, they never took the tariff off because there
was so much money. They can't.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
They would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.
They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places.
They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I
had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've
had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really
known as a country buster.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It breaks up countries.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before,
probably the worst in our nation's history.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
We were at twenty one percent.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But that's being generous because many things are fifty, sixty,
seventy and eighty percent higher than they were just a
few years ago. This has been a disaster for people,
for the middle class, but for every class. On top
of that, we have millions of people pouring into our
country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums,
and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are
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occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics, and also unions.
Unions are going to be affected very soon. And you
see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout
the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio, you look
at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over the towns,
they're taking over buildings, they're going in violently. These are
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the people that She and Biden led into our country,
and they're destroying our country. They're dangerous, They're at the
highest level of criminality, and we have to get them out.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have to get them out fast.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I created one of the greatest economies in the history
of our country.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'll do it again and even better.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
We are going to get to immigration and border security
during this debate. But I would like to let Vice
President Harris respond on the economy here.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Well, I would love to.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. Donald Trump
left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald
Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy
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since the Civil War. And what we have done is
clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done and
what I intend to do is build on what we
know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
But I'm going to tell you all on this debate tonight,
you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook,
a bunch of lies, grievances, and name calling. What you're
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going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan
called Project twenty twenty five that the former president intends
on implementing if he were elected to gain I believe
very strongly that the American people want a president who
understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have
so much more in common than what separates us, and
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I pledged you to be a president for all Americans.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
President Trump will give you a miniature respond number one.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I have nothing to do, as you know, and as
she knows better than than anyone have nothing to do
with Project twenty twenty five that's out there. I haven't
read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm
not going to read it. This was a group of
people that got together. They came up with some ideas.
I guess some good, some bad. But it makes no difference.
I have nothing to do. Everybody knows. I'm an open book.
Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut taxes very
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substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We had the greatest economy.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
We got hit with a pandemic, and the pandemic was
not since nineteen seventeen, where one hundred million people died,
has there been anything like it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We did a phenomenal job with a pandemic.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
We handed them over a country where the economy and
with the stock market was higher than it was before
the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
We made ventilators for the entire world. We got gowns,
we got masks. We did things that nobody thought possible.
And people give me credit for rebuilding the military. They
give me credit for a lot of things, but not
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enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic,
but the only jobs they got were bounced back jobs.
These were jobs bounced back, and it bounced back and
it went to their benefit.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But I was the one that created them. They know it,
and so does everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Vice President Harris A. Layers Wan.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
So Donald Trump has no plan for you, and when
you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax
breaks for the richest people. I am offering what I
describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in
our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative
plans for the future of America.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
What Goldman's Acts has.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Mine would strengthen the economy.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan
would actually explode the deficit. Sixteen Nobel laureates have described
his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and
by the middle of next year, would invite a recession.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
You just have to look.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
At where we are and where we stand on the issues,
and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually
has no plan for you, because he is more interested
in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's just that you said.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Look, I went to the Wharton School of Finance, and
many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan
is a brilliant plan.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's a great plan.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth,
our value as a country. It's going to make people
want to be able to go and work and create
jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for
our country.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
She copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like run,
spot run, four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try
and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a
look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Mister President, I do want to drill down on something
you both brought up. The Vice President brought up your tariffs.
You responded, and let's drill down on this because your
plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here,
on foreign imports across the board. You recently said that
you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to twenty
percent on goods coming into this country. As you know,
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many economists say that we tariffs at that level, costs
are then passed on to the consumer. Vice President Harris
has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication,
arguing it costs the typical family nearly four thousand dollars
a year. Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices
because of tariffs.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They're not going to have higher prices.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
What's going to have and who's going to have higher
prices is China and all of the countries that have
been ripping us off for years. I charge I was
the only president ever China was paying US hundreds of
billions of dollars, and so were other countries.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And you know, if she.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they should.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have immediately cut the terriffs.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
But those tariffs are there three and a half years
now under their administration, we are going to take in
billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars. I had
no inflation, virtually no inflation. They had the highest inflation
perhaps in the history of our country, because I've never
seen a worse period of time. People can't go out
of buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else.
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The people of our country are absolutely dying with what
they've done. They've destroyed the economy. And all you have
to do is look at a Paul. The polls say
eighty and eighty five and even ninety percent that the
Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.
And you heard what the President said there, because the
Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs
in place.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
So how do you respond, Well, let's be clear that
the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of
the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
He invited trade wars. You want to talk about his
deal with China. What he ended up doing is under
Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to
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China to help them improve and modernize their military. Basically
sold us out when a policy about China should be
in making sure the United States of America wins the
competition for the twenty first century, which means focusing on
the details of what that requires, focusing on relationships with
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our allies, focusing on investing in American based technology so
that we win the race on AI on quantum computing,
focusing on what we need to do to support America's
workforce so that we don't end up on the short
end of the stick in terms of workers' rights. But
what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this with COVID,
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is he actually thanked President She for what he did
during COVID. Look at his tweet, thank you President She
exclamation point when we know that she was responsible for
lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
President trouble at you RESPI.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan. We
hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have
and policies like they have. I don't say her because
she has no policy. Everything that she believed three years
ago and four years ago is out the window. She's
going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was going
to send.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Her a maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But if she ever got elected, she changed it, and
it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist.
Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Economics, and he taught her.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Well, but when you look at what she's done to
our country, and when you look at these millions and
millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly,
where it's I believe twenty one million people, not the
fifteen that people say, and I think it's a lot
higher than the twenty one. That's bigger than New York
State pouring in. And just look at what they're doing
to our country. They are criminals. Many of these people
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coming in are criminals. And that's bad for our economy too.
You know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later. Well,
bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to
our economy. They have and she has destroyed our country
with policy that's insane, almost policy that you say they
have to hate our.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Country, President Trump, Thank you, Lindsey.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I want to turn to the issue of abortion. President Trump,
you've often talented that you were able to kill Roe V.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wade.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Last year, you said that you were proud to be
the most pro life president in American history. Then last
month you said that your administration would be great for
women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida.
You surprised many with regard to your six week abortion ban,
because you initially had said that it was too short,
and you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that
we need more than six weeks, but then the very
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next day your reverse course and said you would vote
to support the six week ban. Vice President Harris says
that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion
because you've changed your position so many times. Therefore, why
should they trust So.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
The reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is,
as you know, the vote is they have abortion in
the ninth month. They even have and you can look
at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of
West Virginia. Not the current governors doing an excellent job,
but the governor before he said the baby will be born,
and we will decide what to do with the baby.
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In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why
I did that, because that predominates because they're radical. The
Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick,
which I think is a horrible pick, by the way,
for our country because he is really out of it.
But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth
month is absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
He also says execution.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
After birth, it's an execution, no longer abortion because the
baby is born is okay, And that's not okay with me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Hence the vote.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
But what I did is something or fifty two years,
they've been trying to get Roe v.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wade into the states, and.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme
Court justices, we were able to do that. Now, I
believe in the exceptions for rape incests and life of
the mother, I believe strongly, and it Ronald Reagan did also.
Eighty five percent of Republicans do exceptions very important. But
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we were able to get it, and now states are
voting on it, and for the first time you're going
to see, Look, this is an issue that's torn our
country apart for fifty two years. Every legal scholar, every Democrat,
every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to
be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And that's what happened. Happened now.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Ohio the vote was somewhat liberal, Kansas the vote was
somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought.
But each individual state is voting, it's the vote of
the people. Now, it's not tied up in the federal government.
I did a great service in doing it. It took
courage to do it, and the Supreme Court had great
courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to
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those six justices.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born. Man and
Vice President want to get your response to President Trump.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch
of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact. Let's
understand how we got here. Donald Trump hand selected three
members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention
that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade,
and they did exactly as he intended. And now in
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over twenty states there are Trump abortion bands which make
it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide healthcare.
In one state, it provides prison for life. Trump abortion
bands that make no exception even for rape and incest,
which understand what that means. Vivor of a crime of
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violation to their body does not have the right to
make a decision about what happens to their body next.
That is immoral, and one does not have to abandon
their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree. The government
and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman
what to do with her body. I have talked with
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women around our country. You want to talk about, this
is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry
a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied
care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are
afraid they might go to jail. And she's bleeding out
in a car in the parking lot. She didn't want that,
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Her husband didn't want that. A twelve or thirteen year
old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy
to term.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
They don't want that.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill
to put back in place the protections of Roe V.
Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly
sign it in to law. But understand, if Donald Trump
were to be re elected, he will sign a national
abortion ban.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Understand in his Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
There would be a national abortion a monitor that would
be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages. I think the American
people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to
make decisions about one's own body should not be made
by the government.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Thank you, Vice President Harris.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, there she goes again, it's a lie. I'm not
signing a ban, and there's.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what
everybody wanted. Democrats, Republicans and everybody else, and every legal
scholar wanted it to be brought back into the States,
and the states are voting, and it may take a
little time, but for fifty two years, this issue has
torn our country apart, and they've wanted it back in
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the States, and I did something that nobody thought was possible.
The states are now voting. What she says is an
absolute lie. And as far as the abortion ban, no,
I'm not a favorite of abortion ban, but it doesn't
matter because this issue has now been taken over by
the states.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Would you veto in that national abortion ban if.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
It will, I won't have to because again two things.
Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
She'll never get the vote.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
It is impossible for her to get the vote, especially
now with a fifty to fifty essentially fifty to fifty
in both Senate.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And the House.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
She's not going to get the vote. She can't get
the vote. She won't even come close to it. So
it's just talk.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It reminds me of when they said they're going to
get student loans terminated and it ended up being a
total catastrophe the student loans. And then her I think
probably her boss, if.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You call him a boss. He spends all his time
on the beach.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do
it again, We'll do it a different way. He went out,
got rejected again by the Supreme Court. So all these
students got taunted with this whole thing, about this whole
idea and how unfair that would have been part of
the reason they lost, to the millions and millions of
people that had to pay off their student loans.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They didn't get it for free.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But they were saying, it's the same way that they
talked about that that they talk about abortion.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
But if I could just get a yes or now,
because you're running JD. Vance has said that you would
veto if it did come to your desk.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, I didn't discuss it with JD.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
In all fairness JD, and I don't mind if he
has a certain view, but I think he was speaking
for me, but I really didn't. Look, we don't have
to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it,
just like she couldn't get student loans. They couldn't get
student loans. They didn't even come close to get any
student loans. They taunted young people and a lot of
other people that had loans. They can never get this approved.
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So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
So wonderful, let's go to Congress do it. But the
fact is that for years they wanted to get it
out of Congress and out of the federal government, and
we did something that everybody said couldn't be done. And
now you have a vote of the people on abortion.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Vice President Harris, want to give your time to respond,
but I do want to ask, would you support any
restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Wade.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a
woman carrying a pregnancy to term and in asking for
an abortion that is not happening. It's insulting to the
women of America. And understand what has been happening Under
Donald Trump's abortion bands, couples who pray and dream of
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having a family are being denied IVF treatments.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
What is happening in our country?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Working people, working women who are working one or two jobs,
who can.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Barely afford childcare as.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
It is, have to travel to another state to get
on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and
get the healthcare she needs, barely can.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Afford to do it.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
And what you are putting her through is unconscionable. And
the people of America have not. The majority of Americans believe.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
In a woman's right to make decisions about her own body.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
And that is why in every state where this issue
has been on the ballot, in red and blue states,
both the people of America have voted for freedom.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Vice President, excuse me, I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Have to respond another lie. It's another lie.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization
the IVF.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I have been a leader.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
In fact, when they got a very negative decision on
IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of
Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
I've been a leader on it. They know that, and
everybody else knows it. I have been a leader on
fertilization IVF and the other thing. They you should ask
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will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month,
seventh month?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay? Would you do that? Why don't you ask me
that question?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
That's the question, would you because you could do abortions
in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month,
and probably after birth. Just look at the governor, former
governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said, we put
the baby aside and then we determine what we want
to do with a baby.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.
We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats,
voters across the board in this country. Vice President Harris,
you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the
root causes of migration from Central America. We know that
illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.
This past June. President Biden posed tough new asylum restrictions.
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We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly. But
my question to you tonight is why did the administration
wait until six months before the election to act And
would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
So I'm the only person on this stage who has
prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs,
and human beings. And let me say that the United
States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of
the United States Senate, came up with a border security.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Bill which I supported.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And that bill would have put fifteen hundred more border
agents on the border to help those folks who are
working there right now over time trying to do their job.
It would have allowed us to stem the flow of
fentanyl coming into the United States. I know there are
so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected
by the surge of fentanyl in our country. That bill
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would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute
transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
But you know what happened to that bill.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks
in Congress and said kill the bill. And you know why,
because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem. And understand, this comes at a time
where the people of our country actually need a leader
who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
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But what we have in the former president is someone
who would prefer to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
And I'll tell you something.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
He's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even
when it's not the subject.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
That is being raised. And I'm going to actually do
something really unusual, And.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald
Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
You will see during the course of his rallies he
talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
He will talk about wind mills cause cancer.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
And what you will also notice is that people start
leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And
I will tell you the one thing you will not
hear him talk is you. You will not hear them
talk about your needs, your dreams, and your need and
your desires. And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve
a president who actually puts you first.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
And I pledge to you that I will.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
On that point. I want to get your respons I.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Would like to respond let me just ask them, why
did you try to kill that bill and successfully? So
that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers
on the board.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Responders to the rallies, she said, people start leaving. People
don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go.
And the people that do go, she's busting them in
and paying them to be there and then showing them
in a different light, so she can't talk about that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
People don't leave my rallies.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in
the history of politics. That's because people want to take
their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a
failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago.
And what's going on here. You're gonna end up in
World War three. Just to go into another subject, what
they have done to our cut by allowing these millions
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and millions of people to come into our country. And
look at what's happening to the towns all over the
United States, and a lot of towns don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
A lot of towns don't want to talk about it
because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating
the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats,
they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that
live there. And this is what's happening in our country.
And it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned.
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As far as the reason they go is, they like
what I say. They want to bring our country back.
They want to make America great against very simple phrase,
make America great again. She's destroying this country and if
she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
Not only success will end up being venezuela or steroids.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABCDWS did reach out to the same the manager there.
He told us there had been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All I see people on Telligent. Let me just say here,
this is the people on television. So my dog was
taken and used for food.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good
thing to say for a city manager.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm not taking this from television on television to.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Say dog was eaten by the people that went there.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Again, the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of
that vices. I'll let you respond to the rest of
what you've.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Heard talk about extreme.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Uh, you know I this is I think one of
the reasons why in this election, I actually have the
endorsement of two hundred Republicans who have formerly worked with
President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement
of former Vice President Dick Cheney and congress Member Liz Cheney.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
And if you want to really know the inside, I.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Track on who the former president is. If he didn't
make it.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
His former chief of staff of four star general has
said he has contempt for the constitution of the United States.
His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous
and unfit. His former Secretary of Defense has said the
nation the Republic would never survive another Trump term. And
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when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the
issues that affect the American people are not being addressed,
I think the choice is clear in this election.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
President Trump will give you a quick minute to.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Respond, he thank you, because when I hear that. See,
I'm a different kind of a person. I fired most
of those people, not so graciously. They did bad things
or bad job, I fired him. They never fired one person.
They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and
the Taliban and the thirteen people who is who's were
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just killed viciously and violently killed, And I got to
know the parents and the family.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
They didn't fire. They should have.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Fired all those generals, all those top people, because that
was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has
ever seen. So when somebody does a bad job, I
fire him. And you take a guy like Esper, he
was no good.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I fired him. So he writes a book.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Another one writes a book because with me they can
write books. With nobody else can they. But they have
done such a poor job, and they never fire anybody.
Look at the economy, look at the inflation. They didn't
fire any of their economists. They have the same people.
That's a good way not to have books written about you.
But just to finish, I got more votes than any
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Republican in history by far. In fact, I got more
votes than any president sitting president in history by far.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted
to talk about earlier. So let's get back to your
deportation proposal that the Vice president has reacted to as
well President's frum. You call this the largest domestic deportation
operation in the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You say you would use the national Guard.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You say if things get out of control, you have
no problem using the US military.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You've also said you would use local police.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
How would you deport eleven million undocumented immigrants? I know
you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this.
What does this look like? Will authorities be going door
to door in this country?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, it is much higher. Because of them.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
They allowed criminals, many, many millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists,
they allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in,
drug dealers to come into our country and there now
in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela,
don't ever come back or we're going to kill you.
Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in
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countries all over the world is way down.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You know why?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've
given them to her to put into our country, and
this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history
for them to allow. And I think they probably did
it because they think they're going to get votes. But
it's not worth it because they're destroying the fabric of
our country by what they've done. There's never been anything
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done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of
our country. Millions of people let in and all over
the world. Crime is down all over the world except here.
Crime here is up and through the roof. Despite their
fraudulent statements that they made. Crime in this country is
through the roof, and we have a new form of
crime is called migrant crime, and it's happening at levels
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that nobody thought possible than Trump.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
As you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is
actually coming down in this country.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But excuse me, the FBI defraud. They were defrauding statements.
They didn't include the worst cities, they didn't include the
cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just
like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs
that they said they could.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It turned out to be a fraud.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
President Trump, thank you. I'll let you respond by his
President hay R.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I think this is so rich coming from someone who
has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference,
has been found libel for sexual assault, and his next
big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
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And let's be clear where each person stands on the
issue of what is important about respect for the rule
of law and respect for law enforcement. The former Vice
president called for defunding federal law enforcement forty five thousand agents.
Get this on the day after he was arranged on
thirty four felony counts. So let's talk about what is
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important in this race. It is important that we move forward,
that we turn the page on this same old tired
rhetoric and address the needs of the American people. Address
what we need to do about the housing shortage, which
I have a plan for, Address what we must do
to support our small businesses, Address bringing down the price
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of groceries.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
But frankly, the.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
American people are exhausted with the same auld tire playbook.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Vice President Harris, thank.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You excuse me.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Every one of those cases was started by them against
their political opponent, and I'm winning most of them, and
I will win the rest of an appeal, and you
saw that with a decision that came down just recently
from the Supreme Court. I'm winning most of them, but
those are cases. It's called weaponization. Never happened in this country.
They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases
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was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fawnie Willis
to the Attorney General of New York and the DA
in New York.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Every one of those cases.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
And then they say, oh, he's a criminal. They're the
ones that made them go after me. By the way,
Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.
And what happened in my documents case, they said, oh,
that's the.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Toughest of them all.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
A complete and total victory.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Two months ago it was thrown out.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Its weaponization, and they used it and has never happened
in this country.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
They used it to try and win an election, present
in fake cases.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
President Trump, thank you a really quick response to your
Vice President Harris on this notion of weaponization of the
Justice Department.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in
which this election in twenty twenty four is taking place.
The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former
president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he
were to enter the White House.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Again.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Understand, this is someone who has openly said he would
terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States,
that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his
political enemies, someone who has opened expressed disdain for members
of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald
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Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
We know JD.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Vance is not going to stop him. It's up to
the American people.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Vice President stop him. Thank you, Lindsy.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, this is.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
The one that weaponized, not me. She weaponized.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I probably took a bullet to the head because of
the things that they say about me. They talk about democracy.
I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy.
Whether it fake Russia or Russia Russia investigation.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It went nowhere.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
We have a lot to get to, lindsay, Vice President Harris,
in your last run for president, you said you wanted
to ban fracking, Now you don't. You wanted mandatory government
buyback programs for assault weapons. Now your campaign says you don't.
You supported decriminalizing border crossings. Now you're taking a harder line.
I know you say that you're val values have not changed,
So then why have so many of your policy positions changed.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
So my values have not changed, and I'm going to
discuss every one of the at least every point that
you've made. But in particular, let's talk about fracking, because
we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in
twenty twenty. I will not band fracking. I have not
banned fracking as Vice President of the United States, and
in fact, I was the tie breaking vote on the
Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My
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position is that we have got to invest in diverse
sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production
in history because of an approach that recognizes that we
cannot over rely on foreign oil.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
As it relates to my values, let me.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Tell you I grew up a middle class kid, raised
by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was
able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.
The values I bring to the importance of home ownership.
Knowing not everybody got handed four hundred million dollars on
a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is
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a value that I bring to my work to say
we are going to work with the private sector and
homebuilders to increase three million homes. Increase by three million
homes by the end of my first term.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
My work that is.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Related to having a friend when I was in high
school who is sexually assaulted by her stepfather, and my
focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime
is based on a value that is deeply grounded in
the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
My work that is about.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Protecting social Security and Medicare is based on long standing
work that I have done protecting seniors from scams. My
values have not changed, and what is important is that
there is a president who actually brings values and a
perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating
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people down and name calling. The true measure of the
leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is
not in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
I intend to be that president.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
You well, first of all, I wasn't given four hundred
million dollars I wish I was. My father was a
Brooklyn build at Brooklyn Queens and a great father, and
I learned a lot from him. But I was given
a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and have built
it into many many billions of dollars, many many billions.
And when people see it, they are even surprised. So
we don't have to talk about that fracking. She's been
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against it for twelve years. Defund the police, she's been
against that forever. She gave all that stuff up very wrongly,
very horribly, and everybody's.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Laughing at it. Okay, they're all laughing at it.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
She gave up at least twelve and probably fourteen or
fifteen different policies like she was big on defune the
police in Minnesota, she went out, I'm talking now, you
don't mind, please, does that sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
She went out.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis, she went out
and raised money to get them out of jail.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
She did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens.
That are in prison. This is a radical left liberal
that would do this. She wants to confiscate your guns.
And she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania. If she
won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one,
just to finish one thing so important in my opinion.
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So I got the oil business going like nobody has
ever done before they took When they took over, they
got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and
the prices were going up the roof. They immediately let
these guys go to where they were.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I would have been five.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Times four times, five times higher, because you're talking about
three and a half years ago. They got it up
to where I was because they had no choice because
the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling. You saw
what happened to gasoline. So they said, let's go back
to Trump. But if she won the election, the day
after that election, they'll go back to destroying our country
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and oil will be dead, fossil fuel will be dead.
We'll go back to windmills, and we'll go back to solar,
where they need a whole desert to get some energy
to come out of You ever see a solar plant
By the way, I'm a big fan of solar, but.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
They take.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Four hundred five hundred acres of desert so much.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
These are not good things in the environment, as she understands.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Thank you, Lindsey, Thank you. We have an election in
just fifty six days. I want to talk about the
peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know
is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of
a president in a moment of crisis. Mister President, on
January you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
You said you would be right there with them.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
The country in the world saw what played out of
the Capitol that day, the officers coming under attack. Aids
in the West Wings say, you watched it unfold on
television off the Oval office. You did send out tweets,
but it was more than two hours before you sent
out that video message telling your supporters to go home.
Is there anything you regret about what you did on
that day?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on, peacefully and patriotically.
And nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley Babbitt
was shot by an out of control police officer that
should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace, but
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we didn't do this group of people that have been
treated so badly. I asked, what about all the people
that are pouring into our country and killing people that
she allowed to pourt it? She was the boatizar, Remember
that she was the borders are I want to be
called the voters up because she's.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Embarrassed by the voter effect.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
She said at the beginning, Oh, I'm surprised you're not
talking about the body yet. That's because she knows what
a bad job they've done. What about those people? What
are they going to be prosecuted? One of these people
from countries all over the world, not just South America.
They're coming in from all over the world, David, all
over the world, and crime rates are down all over
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the world because of it. But one of those, David,
one of those people going to be prosecuted. One of
the people that burned down Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted.
Or in Seattle they wanted to see Seattle. They took
over a big percentage of the city of Seattle. One
of those people going to be prosecuted. But let me
just ask you might ask her that.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Question if you were the president you were watching an
unfold on television. It's a very simple question. As we
move forward toward another election, is there anything you regret
about what you did on that day.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
I had nothing to do with that other than they
asked me to make a speech. I showed up for
a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big.
I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, DC,
and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know,
I said, you know, this is going to be a
very big rally or whatever you want to call it.
And again, it wasn't done by me, it was done
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by others. I said, I'd like to give you ten
thousand National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy Pelosi
rejected me. It was just two weeks ago. Her daughter
has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible
for what happened.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
If they want to get rid of that tape, it.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the Mayor
of Washington did the jobs. I wasn't responsible for security.
Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
She didn't do her job.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
The question was about you, as President, not about former
Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to
respond here.
Speaker 8 (46:45):
I was at the Capitol on January sixth. I was
the Vice president elect. I was also an acting senator.
I was there, and on that day, the President of
the United States insided a violent mob to attack our
nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day,
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one hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured and
some died. And understand the former president has been indicted
and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not
an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a
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mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate.
And what did the president then at the time say,
there were fine people on each side.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
Let's remember that.
Speaker 8 (47:43):
When it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the
president said, the former president said stand back and stand by.
So for everyone watching who remembers what January sixth was,
I say, we don't.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
Have to go back. Let's not go back. We're not
going back.
Speaker 8 (48:02):
It's time to turn the page. And if that was
a bridge too far for you, well there is a
place in our campaign for you to stand for country,
to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law,
and to end the chaos and to end the approach
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that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because
you don't like the outcome. And be clear on that point.
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a blood pass if this and the outcome
of this election is not to his liking. Let's turn
the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart
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a course for the future and not go backwards to
the past.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Let me just follow up here.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
It was a different term, and it was a term
that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy.
That was where Bloodbeth was also on Charlottesville. That story
has been, as you would say, debunked. Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity,
all of these people, they covered it.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
If they go an.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was
debunked in almost every newspaper. But they still bring it up,
just like they bring.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Twenty twenty five up. They bring all of this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
I ask you this, you talk about the capitol, Why
are we allowing these millions of people to come through
on the southern border.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
How comes she's not doing anything. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
I would do, and I would be very proud to
do it. I would say we would both leave this
debate right now. I'd like to see her go down
to Washington, DC during this debate because we're.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Wasting a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Go down to because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Go down to Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
And let her sign a bill to close up the
border because they have the right to do it. They
don't need bills, they have the right to do it.
The president of the United States, you'll get them out
of bed, wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon.
You'll say, come on, come on down to the office.
Let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that
the border is closed, only has to do is say
it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they
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do that, the border is closed. Mister, most people are
killing many people.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Unlike J six, we talked to immigration here tonight, I
do want to focus on this next issue to both
of you because it really brings us this into focused
truth in these times that we're living in. Mister President,
for three and a half years, After you lost the
twenty twenty election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won,
many times saying you won in a landslide. In the
past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you
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have said quote you lost by a whisker, that you
quote didn't quite make it, that you came up a
little bit short. I say that, are you now acknowledging
that you lost in.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Twenty twentydomage editor, I said that sarcastically, you know that,
and we said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That
was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof. All you
have to do is look at it. And they should
have sent it back to the legislatures for approval. I
got almost seventy five million votes, the most votes any
sitting president has ever gotten. I was told if I
got sixty three, which was what I got in twenty.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Sixteen, you can't be beaten the election.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
People should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent.
We need two things. We need walls we need and
we have to have it. We have to have borders,
and we have to have good elections. Our elections are
bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in
they're trying to get them to vote. They can't even
speak English, they don't even know what country they're in, practically,
and these people are trying to get them to vote,
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and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I did watch all of these pieces of video. I
didn't detect the sarcasm lost by Whisker. We didn't quite
make it. And we should just point out here as clarification.
And you know this, You and your allies sixty cases
in front of many judges.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Many of them judge looked at it and they said,
we didn't have standing. That's the other thing. They said,
we didn't have standing a technicality. Can you imagine a
system where a person in an election doesn't have standing?
The President of the United States doesn't have standing.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
That's how we lost.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
If you look at the facts, and I'd love to
have you do, you'll do a special on it. I'll
show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll
show you Pennsylvania, and I'll show you. We have so
many facts and statistics. But you know what, that doesn't
matter because we have to solve the problem that we
have right now.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's old news. And the problem that we have right.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Now is we have a nation in decline, and they
have put it into decline.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
We have a nation that is dying.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
David, mister President, thank you. Vice President Harris. You heard
the president there tonight. He said he didn't say that
that he lost by whiskers, so he still believes he
did not lose the election that was won by President
Biden and yourself. But I do want to ask you
about something that's come up in the last couple of days.
This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming
election just weeks away. He said, when I win, those
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people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials.
He says, we'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law, which will include long term prison sentences. One
of your campaign's top lawyers responded, saying, we won't let
Donald Trump intimidate us. We won't let him suppress the vote.
Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?
Speaker 8 (53:14):
Donald Trump was fired by eighty one million people, so
let's be clear about that. And clearly he is having
a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford
to have a president of the United States who attempts,
as he did in the past, to upend the will
of the voters in a free and fair election. And
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I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the
world as Vice President of the United States, and world
leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with
military leaders, some of whom work with you, and they say,
you're a disgrace.
Speaker 7 (53:52):
And when you then talk in this way.
Speaker 8 (53:55):
In a presidential debate and deny what over and over
again our court cases you have lost because you did,
in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe
that perhaps we do not have in the candidate, to
my right, the temperament or the ability to not be
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confused about fact. That's deeply troubling, and the American people
deserve better.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I'll give you one minute response.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Let me just say about world leaders.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Victor Orban one of the most respected men.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
They call him a strong man.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
He's a tough person, smart Prime Minister of Hungary. They said,
why is the whole world blowing up? Three years ago
it wasn't. Why is it blowing up? He said, because
you need Trump back as president. They were afraid of him.
China was afraid and I don't like to use the
word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. China was afraid
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of him. North Korea was afraid of him. Look at
what's going on with North Korea. By the way, he said,
Russia was afraid of him. I ended the North Stream
two p pipeline and Biden put it.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Back on day one.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
But he ended the Excel pipeline, the Excel pipeline in
our country. He ended that, but he let the Russians
build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany,
the biggest pipeline in the world. Look, Victor Orban said it.
He said, the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
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We had no problems when Trump was president. But when
this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate
just a few months ago that if you weren't in
that debate, he'd be running onstead of her. She got
no votes. He got fourteen million votes. What you did,
you talk about a threat to democracy? He got fourteen
million votes, and they threw him out of office.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
And you know what, I'll give you a little secret.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
He hates her, he can't stand her, but he got
fourteen million votes.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
They threw him out.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
She got zero votes, and when she ran, she was
the first one to.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Leave because she failed, and now she's running.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
I don't understand, okay with it because your time, I
think we're going to do very well.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
You've got a lot more to get too.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
Turning now to the Israel Hamas war and the hostages
who are still being held, Americans among them. Vice President Harris.
In December, you said, quote Israel has a right to
defend itself, but you added quote it matters how saying
international humanitarian law must be respected. Israel must do more
to protect innocent civilians. You said that nine months ago.
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Now an estimated forty thousand Palestinians are dead, nearly one
hundred hostages remain. Just last week Prime Minister Benjamin ett Yah,
who said there's not a deal in the making. President
Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate.
How would you do it?
Speaker 8 (56:39):
Well, let's understand how we got here. On October seven, Hamas,
a terrorist organization, slaughtered twelve hundred Israelis, many of them
young people who are simply attending a concert. Women were
horribly raped, and so absolutely I said, then, I say,
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now Israel has a right to defend itself. We would,
and how it does so matters because it is also true,
far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed, children, mothers.
What we know is that this war must end. It
must when end immediately, and the way it will end
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is we need a cease fire deal and we need
the hostages out, and so we will continue to work
around the clock on that work around the clock, also
understanding that we must chart a course for a two
state solution, and in that solution there must be security
for the Israeli people and Israel and an equal measure
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for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure
you always, I will always give Israel the ability to
defend itself, in particular as it rates as it relates
to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies
post to Israel. But we must have a two state
solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security,
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self determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
Speaker 6 (58:12):
President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanya who and
also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and
prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
If I were president, it would have never started. If
I were president, Russia would have never ever. I know
putin very well, he would have never.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
And there was no threat of it either.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
By the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine
and killed millions of people when you ended up far
worse than people understand what's going on over there. But
when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden, she
hates Israel. She wouldn't even meet with net Yahoo when
he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
She refused to be there because she was at a
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sorority party of hers. She wanted to go to the
sorority party. She hates Israel if she president. I believe
that Israel will not exist within two years from now,
and I've been pretty good at predictions, and.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
I hope we're wrong about that one.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
She hates Israel at the same time, in her own way,
she hates the Arab population because the whole place is
going to get blown up, Arabs, Jewish people, Israel, Israel
will be gone. It would have never happened. Iran was
broke under Donald Trump. Now Iran has three hundred billion
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dollars because they took off all the sanctions that I had.
Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbola or any
of the twenty eight different spheres of Terra, and they
are spheres of Terra. Horrible Terra. They had no money.
It was a big story, and you know it. You
covered it very well. Actually they had no money for Terra.
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They were broke. Now they're a rich nation, and now
what they're doing is they're spreading that money around. Look
at what's happening with the and Yemen. Look at what's
going on in the Middle East. This would have never happened.
I will get that settled and fast, and I'll get
the war with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And Russia ended.
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
If I'm president elect, I'll get it done before even
becoming president.
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Vice President Harris, he says, you hate Israel.
Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
That's absolutely not true. I have my entire career and
life supported Israel and the Israeli people. He knows that
he's trying to again divide and distract from the reality,
which is it is very well known that Donald Trump
is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
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It is well known that he admires dictators, wants to
be a dictator.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
On day one according to himself.
Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
It is well known that he said of Putin that
he can do whatever the hell he wants and go
into Ukraine. It is well known that he said when
Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant. It is well
known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong un.
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
And it is absolutely well known that.
Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
These dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be
president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you
with flattery and favors. And that is why so many
military leaders who you have worked with have told me
you are a disgrace. That is why we understand that
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we have to have a president who is not consistently weak.
Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
And wrong on national security.
Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard
our military.
Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
Vice President Harris, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You the ones.
Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
And she's the one that caused it, that's weak or
national security by allowing every nation last month for the year,
one hundred and sixty eight different countries sending people into
our country weights way down. Putin endorsed her last week
said I hope she wins, and I think he meant it,
because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible. It
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wouldn't have happened with me. The leaders of other countries
think that they're weak and incompetent, and they are, They're
grossly incompetent. And I just asked one question, why does
Biden go in and kill the Keystone pipeline and approve
the single biggest deal that Rush has ever made, Nordstream too,
the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world, going to Germany.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
And all over Europe.
Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Because they're weak and they're ineffective. And Biden, by the way,
gets paid a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to.
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Into this conflict. Mister President.
Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
It has been the position of the Biden administration that
we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin, to
defend their sovereignty, their democracy, that it's an America's best
interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he
may be emboldened to move even further into other countries.
You have said you would solve this war in twenty
four hours. You said so just before the break tonight.
How exactly would you do that? And I want to
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ask you a very simple question tonight. Do you want
Ukraine to win this war?
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I want the war to stop.
Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
I want to save lives that are being uselessly, people
being killed by the millions. It's the millions is so
much worse than the numbers that you're getting with you're
faith numbers. Look, we're in for two hundred and fifty
billion or more. Because they don't ask Europe, which is
a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than
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we are.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
They're in for one hundred and.
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Fifty billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have
the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO.
They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars
when I said, either you pay up or we're not
going to protect you anymore. So that's maybe one of
the reasons that don't like me as much as they
like weak people.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
But you take a look at what's happening.
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
We're in for two hundred and fifty to two hundred
and seventy five billion, they're into one hundred to one
hundred and fifty. They should be forced to equalize. With
that being said, I want to get the war settled.
I know Zelenski very well, and I know Putin very well.
I have a good relationship. And they respect your president. Okay,
they respect me. They don't respect Biden. How would you
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respect him?
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Why? For what reason?
Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
He hasn't even made a phone call in two years
to hasn't spoken to anybody. They don't even try and
get it. That is a war that's dying to be settled.
I will get it settled before I even become president
if I win. When I'm president elect, and what I'll
do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other,
I'll get him together, that war would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
And in fact, when I saw Putin after.
Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I left, unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell.
But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers,
he did it. After I left, I said, oh, he
must be negotiating. It must be a good strong point
of negotiation. Well it wasn't because Biden had no idea
how to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
He had no idea how to stop it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
And now you have millions of people dead and it's
only getting worse, and it could lead to World War three.
Don't kid yourself, David. We're playing with World War three
and we have a president that we don't even know
if he's Where is our president? We don't even know
if he's a president.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Just a clarity.
Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
I threw him out of a campaign. Ain't like a dog.
We don't even know is he a president? But we
have a president.
Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Mister president doesn't know he's alive. Your time is up.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Just to clarifying the question, do you believe it's in
the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war?
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yesterday?
Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
I think it's the US best interest to get this
war finished and just get it done. Negotiated deal because
we have to stop all of these human lives from
being destroyed.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I want to take this device President Harris. I want
to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment,
but also as commander in chief if elected, how would
you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any
different from what we're seeing from President Biden.
Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (01:06:38):
All, it's important to remind the former president, you're not
running against Joe Biden, You're running against me. I believe
the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would
be over within twenty four hours is because he would
just give it up. And that's not who we are
as Americans. Let's understand what happened here. I actually met
with Zelansky a few days before Russia invaded tried through
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force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the
most important international rules and norms, which is the importance
of sovereignty and territorial integrity. And I met with President Zelansky.
I shared with him American intelligence about how he could
defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank
to Poland and Romania, and through the work that I
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and others did. We brought fifty countries together to support
Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support,
because of the air defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins,
the abrams tanks that we have provided, Ukraine stands as
an independent and free country. If Donald Trump were president,
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Putin would be sitting in.
Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Kiev right now.
Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is
not just about Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
Understand why the European.
Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
Allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you
are no longer president, and that we understand the importance
of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known,
which is NATO, and what we have done to preserve
the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for
their independence. Otherwise Putin would be sitting in Kiev with
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his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland.
And why don't you tell the eight hundred thousand Polish
Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give
up for the sake of favor and what you think
is a friendship with what is known to be a
dictator who would eat you for lunch.
Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Vice President Harris, thank you. We've heard from both of
you on Ukraine tonight. Afghanistan came up in the last hour.
I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier,
and now please I'll give you a minute here.
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have
lost three hundred thousand men in women, but he would
been sitting in Moscow, quiet place. He would have been
sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now.
But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other
people don't have. He's got nuclear weapons. They don't ever
talk about that. He got nuclear weapons. Nobody ever thinks
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about that. And eventually maybe he'll use him. And maybe
he hasn't been that threatening, but he does have that
something we don't even like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Nobody likes to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate
peace before this war started. Three days later, he went
in and he started the war because everything they said
was weak and stupid.
Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
Vice President, private healthcare options. But what we need to
do is maintain and grow the affordable carecter. But I'll
get to that, Lindsay. I just need to respond to
a previous point that the former president has made. I've
made very clear my position on fracking. And then this
business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls and I
are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away.
So stop with the continuous line about this stuff as
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it relates to the Affordable Care Act. Understand, let's just
look at the history to know where people stand. When
Donald Trump was president sixty times he tried to get
rid of the Affordable Care Act sixty times. I was
a senator at the time when I will never forget
the early morning hours when it was up for a
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vote in the United States Senate, and the late great
John McCain, who you have disparaged as being you don't
like him, you said at the time because he got caught.
He was an American hero, The late great John McCain,
I will never forget that night walked onto the Senate
floor and said, no, you don't, no, you don't, no,
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you don't get rid of the Affordable Charact. You have
no plan. And what the Affordable Care Act has done
is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people
with pre existing conditions.
Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
I don't have to tell the people Washington night. You
remember what that was like.
Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
Remember when an insurance company could deny if a child
had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor if
a grandparent had diabetes. And thankfully, as I've been Vice
president and we over the last four years have strengthened
the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time,
Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you, the
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American people. Donald Trump said he was going to allow
Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
He never did.
Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
We did.
Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
And now we have capped the cost of insulin at
thirty five dollars a month.
Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
Since I've been Vice president, we have capped the cost
of prescription medication for.
Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Seniors at two thousand dollars a year. And when I
am president, we will do that for all people. Understanding
that the value I bring to this is that access
to healthcare should be a right and not just a
privilege of those who can afford it. And the plan
has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not
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get rid of it fast as roll us. In terms
of where Donald Trum stands on that, I want.
Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
To move to an issue that's important for a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I get a mistake at number one.
Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
John McCain fought Obamacare for ten years, but it wasn't
only him, It were all of the Democrats that kept
it going. And you know what, we can do much
better than Obamacare, much less money. But she won't improve
private insurance for people, private medical insurance. That's another thing
she does to exemple are paying privately for insurance that
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have worked hard and made money and they want to
have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance
where you wait six months for an operation that you
need to meeting.
Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
President Trump, thank you. We have another issue that we'd
like to get to that's important for a number of Americans,
in particular younger voters, and that's climate change. President Trump,
with regard to the environment, you say that we have
to have clean air and clean water. Vice President Harris,
you call climate change an existential threat. The question to
you both tonight is what would you do to fight
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climate change? And Vice President Harris will start with you
one minute for you each.
Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
Well, the former president had said the climate change as
a hoax, and what we know is that it is
very real.
Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
You ask anyone who lives.
Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
In a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences,
who now is either being denied home insurance or its
being jacked up. You ask anybody who has been the
victim of what that means in terms of losing their
home having nowhere to go. We know that we can
actually deal with this issue. The young people of America
care deeply about this issue, and I am proud that
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as Vice president, over the last four years, we have
invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy, while
we have also increased domestic gas production to historic levels.
We have created over eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs.
While I have been Vice president, we have invested in
clean energy to the point that we are opening up
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factories around the world. Donald Trump said he was going
to create manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
He lost manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the
United Autoworkers and Sean Fain, who also know that part
of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American
made products, American automobiles. It includes growing what we can
do around American manufacturing and opening up auto plants, not
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closing them like happened under Donald Truce, President Harris, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
That didn't happen under Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Let me just tell you they lost ten thousand manufacturing
jobs this last month.
Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
It's going they're all leaving.
Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases
owned by China. They're building these massive plants, and they
think they're going to sell their cars into the United
States because of these people. What they have given to
China is unbelievable. But we're not going to let that.
We'll put tariffs in those cars so they can't come
into our country because they will kill the United auto
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workers and any order worker, whether it's in Troit or
South Carolina or any other place. What they've done to
business and manufacturing in this country is horrible. We have
nothing because they refuse. You know, Biden doesn't go after
people because supposedly China paid them millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
He's afraid to do it. Between him and his son.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
They get all this money from Ukraine, they get all
this money from all of these different countries, and then
you wonder, why is he so loyal to this one
that one Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
China?
Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Why is he Why did he get three and a
half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife. Why
did he get why did she pay him three and
a half million dollars. This is a crooked administration and
they're selling our country down the tubes.
Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
President Trump, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
We'll be right back with closing statements from both of
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Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions
for our country. One that is focused on the future
and the other that is focused on the past and
an attempt to take us backward. But we're not going back.
And I do believe that the American people know we
all have so much more in common than what separates
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us and we can chart a new way forward and
a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations,
the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people,
which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy,
investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we
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can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that
is about giving hard working folks a break and bringing
down the cost of living.
Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
I believe in what we can.
Speaker 8 (01:17:19):
Do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the
world and ensuring that we have the respect that we
so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we
have the most lethal fighting force in the world. I
will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights
and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make
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decisions about her own body and not have her government
tell her what to do. I'll tell you I started
my career as a prosecutor. I was a DA I
was an attorney general, a United States Senator, and now
Vice President.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
I've only had one client, the people.
Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
And I'll tell you as a prosecutor, I never asked
a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or
a Democrat.
Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay?
Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
And that's the kind of president we need right now,
someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.
I intend to be a president for all Americans and
focus on what we can do over the next ten
and twenty years to build back up our country by
investing right now in you, the American people.
Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
Vice President Harris, thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Why hasn't she done it.
Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
She's been there for three and a half years. They've
had three and a half years to fix the border,
they've had three and a half years to create jobs
and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she
done it? She should leave right now, go down to
that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together,
and do the things you want to do. But you
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haven't done it, and you won't do it because you
believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
You believe in things like we're not going to frack,
we're not going to take fossil fuel. We're not going
to do things that are going to make this country strong,
whether you like it or not. Germany tried that and
within one year they were back to building.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Normal energy plants. We're not ready for it.
Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.
But I just ask one simple question, why didn't she
do it. We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's
in serious decline. We're being laughed at all over the world.
All over the world they laugh. I know the leaders
very well. They're coming to see me, they call me.
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We're laughed at all over the world.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's
going on. We have wars going on in the Middle East.
We have wars going on with Russia and you Ukraine.
We're going to end up in a Third World War,
and it'll be a war like no other because of
nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military.
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She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban,
she gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done
to our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing
millions of people to come into our country. Many of
them are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president,
the worst vice president in the history of our country.
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Here now, David Muir and Lindsey Davis.
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I'm David Muor, and thank you for joining us for
tonight's ABC News Presidential Debate. We want to welcome viewers
watching on ABC and around the world tonight. Vice President
Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump are just moments away
from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
And I'm Lindsay Davis. Tonight's meeting could be the most
consequential event of their campaigns, with election day now less
than two months away. For Vice President Kamala Harris, this
is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the
race on July twenty First, of course, that decision followed
his debate against President Donald Trump in June. Since then,
this race has taken on an entirely new dynamic, and that.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Brings us to the rules of tonight's debate. Ninety minutes
with two commercial breaks. No topics or questions have been
shared with the campaigns. The candidates will have two minutes
to answer questions, and this is the clock.
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Speaker 4 (01:31):
Two minutes for rebuttals and one minute for follow ups,
clarifications or responses. Their microphones will only be turned on
when it's their turn to speak.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No pre written notes allowed.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
There is no audience here tonight, in this hall at
the National Constitution Center. This is an intimate setting for
two candidates who have never met.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
President Trump won the coin toss he chose to deliver
the final closing statement of the evening. Vice President Harris
elected the podium to the right.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So let's now welcome the candidates to the stage.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Kamala Harris, so good debase, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you It's
an honor to have you both here.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Tonight, good evening. We are looking forward to a spirited
and thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Debate, So let's get started.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters
repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is
the economy and the cost of living in this country.
Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four
years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight
often asks his supporters, are you better off than you
were four years ago? When it comes to the economy?
Do you believe Americans are better off that they were
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four years ago?
Speaker 8 (02:44):
So I was raised as a middle class kid, and
I am actually the only person on this stage who
has a plan that is about lifting up the middle
class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition,
the aspirations, the dream of the American people, and that
is why I imagine and have actually a plan to
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build what I call an opportunity economy.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing,
and the cost of housing is too expensive far too
many people. We know that young families need support to
raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax
cut for those families of six thousand dollars, which is
the largest child tax credit that we have given in
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a long time, so that those young families can afford
to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes
for their children.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
My passion, one of them is small businesses.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
I was actually my mother raised my sister and me,
but there was a woman who helped raise us. We
call her our second mother. She was a small business owner.
I love our small businesses. My plan is to give
a fifty thousand dollars tax deduction to start up small businesses,
knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy.
My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to
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do what he has done before, which is to provide
a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will
result in five trillion dollars to America's deficit. My opponent
has a plan that I call the Trump's sales Tax,
which would be a twenty percent tax on everyday goods
that you rely on.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
To get through the month.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually
result for middle class families in about four thousand dollars
more a year because of his policies and his ideas
about what should be the backs of middle class people
paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
President Trump will give you two minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an
incorrect statement. She knows that we're doing tariffs in other countries.
Other countries are going to finally, after seventy five years,
pay us back for all that we've done for the world,
and the tariff will be some stantial in some cases.
I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know,
from China.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
In fact, they never took the tariff off because there
was so much money. They can't.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
They would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.
They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places.
They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I
had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've
had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really
known as a country buster.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It breaks up countries.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before,
probably the worst in our nation's history.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
We were at twenty one percent.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But that's being generous because many things are fifty, sixty,
seventy and eighty percent higher than they were just a
few years ago. This has been a disaster for people,
for the middle class, but for every class. On top
of that, we have millions of people pouring into our
country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums,
and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are
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occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics, and also unions.
Unions are going to be affected very soon. And you
see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout
the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio, you look
at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over the towns,
they're taking over buildings, they're going in violently. These are
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the people that She and Biden led into our country,
and they're destroying our country. They're dangerous, They're at the
highest level of criminality, and we have to get them out.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have to get them out fast.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I created one of the greatest economies in the history
of our country.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'll do it again and even better.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
We are going to get to immigration and border security
during this debate. But I would like to let Vice
President Harris respond on the economy here.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Well, I would love to.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. Donald Trump
left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald
Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy
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since the Civil War. And what we have done is
clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done and
what I intend to do is build on what we
know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
But I'm going to tell you all on this debate tonight,
you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook,
a bunch of lies, grievances, and name calling. What you're
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going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan
called Project twenty twenty five that the former president intends
on implementing if he were elected to gain I believe
very strongly that the American people want a president who
understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have
so much more in common than what separates us, and
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I pledged you to be a president for all Americans.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
President Trump will give you a miniature respond number one.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I have nothing to do, as you know, and as
she knows better than than anyone have nothing to do
with Project twenty twenty five that's out there. I haven't
read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm
not going to read it. This was a group of
people that got together. They came up with some ideas.
I guess some good, some bad. But it makes no difference.
I have nothing to do. Everybody knows. I'm an open book.
Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut taxes very
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substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We had the greatest economy.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
We got hit with a pandemic, and the pandemic was
not since nineteen seventeen, where one hundred million people died,
has there been anything like it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We did a phenomenal job with a pandemic.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
We handed them over a country where the economy and
with the stock market was higher than it was before
the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
We made ventilators for the entire world. We got gowns,
we got masks. We did things that nobody thought possible.
And people give me credit for rebuilding the military. They
give me credit for a lot of things, but not
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enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic,
but the only jobs they got were bounced back jobs.
These were jobs bounced back, and it bounced back and
it went to their benefit.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But I was the one that created them. They know it,
and so does everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Vice President Harris A. Layers Wan.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
So Donald Trump has no plan for you, and when
you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax
breaks for the richest people. I am offering what I
describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in
our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative
plans for the future of America.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
What Goldman's Acts has.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Mine would strengthen the economy.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan
would actually explode the deficit. Sixteen Nobel laureates have described
his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and
by the middle of next year, would invite a recession.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
You just have to look.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
At where we are and where we stand on the issues,
and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually
has no plan for you, because he is more interested
in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's just that you said.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Look, I went to the Wharton School of Finance, and
many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan
is a brilliant plan.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's a great plan.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth,
our value as a country. It's going to make people
want to be able to go and work and create
jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for
our country.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
She copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like run,
spot run, four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try
and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a
look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Mister President, I do want to drill down on something
you both brought up. The Vice President brought up your tariffs.
You responded, and let's drill down on this because your
plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here,
on foreign imports across the board. You recently said that
you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to twenty
percent on goods coming into this country. As you know,
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many economists say that we tariffs at that level, costs
are then passed on to the consumer. Vice President Harris
has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication,
arguing it costs the typical family nearly four thousand dollars
a year. Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices
because of tariffs.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They're not going to have higher prices.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
What's going to have and who's going to have higher
prices is China and all of the countries that have
been ripping us off for years. I charge I was
the only president ever China was paying US hundreds of
billions of dollars, and so were other countries.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And you know, if she.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they should.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have immediately cut the terriffs.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
But those tariffs are there three and a half years
now under their administration, we are going to take in
billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars. I had
no inflation, virtually no inflation. They had the highest inflation
perhaps in the history of our country, because I've never
seen a worse period of time. People can't go out
of buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else.
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The people of our country are absolutely dying with what
they've done. They've destroyed the economy. And all you have
to do is look at a Paul. The polls say
eighty and eighty five and even ninety percent that the
Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.
And you heard what the President said there, because the
Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs
in place.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
So how do you respond, Well, let's be clear that
the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of
the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
He invited trade wars. You want to talk about his
deal with China. What he ended up doing is under
Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to
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China to help them improve and modernize their military. Basically
sold us out when a policy about China should be
in making sure the United States of America wins the
competition for the twenty first century, which means focusing on
the details of what that requires, focusing on relationships with
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our allies, focusing on investing in American based technology so
that we win the race on AI on quantum computing,
focusing on what we need to do to support America's
workforce so that we don't end up on the short
end of the stick in terms of workers' rights. But
what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this with COVID,
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is he actually thanked President She for what he did
during COVID. Look at his tweet, thank you President She
exclamation point when we know that she was responsible for
lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
President trouble at you RESPI.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan. We
hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have
and policies like they have. I don't say her because
she has no policy. Everything that she believed three years
ago and four years ago is out the window. She's
going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was going
to send.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Her a maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But if she ever got elected, she changed it, and
it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist.
Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Economics, and he taught her.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Well, but when you look at what she's done to
our country, and when you look at these millions and
millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly,
where it's I believe twenty one million people, not the
fifteen that people say, and I think it's a lot
higher than the twenty one. That's bigger than New York
State pouring in. And just look at what they're doing
to our country. They are criminals. Many of these people
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coming in are criminals. And that's bad for our economy too.
You know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later. Well,
bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to
our economy. They have and she has destroyed our country
with policy that's insane, almost policy that you say they
have to hate our.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Country, President Trump, Thank you, Lindsey.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I want to turn to the issue of abortion. President Trump,
you've often talented that you were able to kill Roe V.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wade.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Last year, you said that you were proud to be
the most pro life president in American history. Then last
month you said that your administration would be great for
women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida.
You surprised many with regard to your six week abortion ban,
because you initially had said that it was too short,
and you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that
we need more than six weeks, but then the very
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next day your reverse course and said you would vote
to support the six week ban. Vice President Harris says
that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion
because you've changed your position so many times. Therefore, why
should they trust So.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
The reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is,
as you know, the vote is they have abortion in
the ninth month. They even have and you can look
at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of
West Virginia. Not the current governors doing an excellent job,
but the governor before he said the baby will be born,
and we will decide what to do with the baby.
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In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why
I did that, because that predominates because they're radical. The
Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick,
which I think is a horrible pick, by the way,
for our country because he is really out of it.
But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth
month is absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
He also says execution.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
After birth, it's an execution, no longer abortion because the
baby is born is okay, And that's not okay with me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Hence the vote.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
But what I did is something or fifty two years,
they've been trying to get Roe v.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wade into the states, and.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme
Court justices, we were able to do that. Now, I
believe in the exceptions for rape incests and life of
the mother, I believe strongly, and it Ronald Reagan did also.
Eighty five percent of Republicans do exceptions very important. But
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we were able to get it, and now states are
voting on it, and for the first time you're going
to see, Look, this is an issue that's torn our
country apart for fifty two years. Every legal scholar, every Democrat,
every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to
be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And that's what happened. Happened now.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Ohio the vote was somewhat liberal, Kansas the vote was
somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought.
But each individual state is voting, it's the vote of
the people. Now, it's not tied up in the federal government.
I did a great service in doing it. It took
courage to do it, and the Supreme Court had great
courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to
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those six justices.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born. Man and
Vice President want to get your response to President Trump.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch
of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact. Let's
understand how we got here. Donald Trump hand selected three
members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention
that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade,
and they did exactly as he intended. And now in
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over twenty states there are Trump abortion bands which make
it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide healthcare.
In one state, it provides prison for life. Trump abortion
bands that make no exception even for rape and incest,
which understand what that means. Vivor of a crime of
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violation to their body does not have the right to
make a decision about what happens to their body next.
That is immoral, and one does not have to abandon
their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree. The government
and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman
what to do with her body. I have talked with
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women around our country. You want to talk about, this
is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry
a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied
care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are
afraid they might go to jail. And she's bleeding out
in a car in the parking lot. She didn't want that,
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Her husband didn't want that. A twelve or thirteen year
old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy
to term.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
They don't want that.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill
to put back in place the protections of Roe V.
Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly
sign it in to law. But understand, if Donald Trump
were to be re elected, he will sign a national
abortion ban.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Understand in his Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
There would be a national abortion a monitor that would
be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages. I think the American
people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to
make decisions about one's own body should not be made
by the government.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Thank you, Vice President Harris.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, there she goes again, it's a lie. I'm not
signing a ban, and there's.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what
everybody wanted. Democrats, Republicans and everybody else, and every legal
scholar wanted it to be brought back into the States,
and the states are voting, and it may take a
little time, but for fifty two years, this issue has
torn our country apart, and they've wanted it back in
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the States, and I did something that nobody thought was possible.
The states are now voting. What she says is an
absolute lie. And as far as the abortion ban, no,
I'm not a favorite of abortion ban, but it doesn't
matter because this issue has now been taken over by
the states.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Would you veto in that national abortion ban if.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
It will, I won't have to because again two things.
Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
She'll never get the vote.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
It is impossible for her to get the vote, especially
now with a fifty to fifty essentially fifty to fifty
in both Senate.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And the House.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
She's not going to get the vote. She can't get
the vote. She won't even come close to it. So
it's just talk.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It reminds me of when they said they're going to
get student loans terminated and it ended up being a
total catastrophe the student loans. And then her I think
probably her boss, if.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You call him a boss. He spends all his time
on the beach.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do
it again, We'll do it a different way. He went out,
got rejected again by the Supreme Court. So all these
students got taunted with this whole thing, about this whole
idea and how unfair that would have been part of
the reason they lost, to the millions and millions of
people that had to pay off their student loans.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They didn't get it for free.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But they were saying, it's the same way that they
talked about that that they talk about abortion.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
But if I could just get a yes or now,
because you're running JD. Vance has said that you would
veto if it did come to your desk.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, I didn't discuss it with JD.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
In all fairness JD, and I don't mind if he
has a certain view, but I think he was speaking
for me, but I really didn't. Look, we don't have
to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it,
just like she couldn't get student loans. They couldn't get
student loans. They didn't even come close to get any
student loans. They taunted young people and a lot of
other people that had loans. They can never get this approved.
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So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
So wonderful, let's go to Congress do it. But the
fact is that for years they wanted to get it
out of Congress and out of the federal government, and
we did something that everybody said couldn't be done. And
now you have a vote of the people on abortion.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Vice President Harris, want to give your time to respond,
but I do want to ask, would you support any
restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Wade.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a
woman carrying a pregnancy to term and in asking for
an abortion that is not happening. It's insulting to the
women of America. And understand what has been happening Under
Donald Trump's abortion bands, couples who pray and dream of
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having a family are being denied IVF treatments.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
What is happening in our country?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Working people, working women who are working one or two jobs,
who can.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Barely afford childcare as.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
It is, have to travel to another state to get
on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and
get the healthcare she needs, barely can.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Afford to do it.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
And what you are putting her through is unconscionable. And
the people of America have not. The majority of Americans believe.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
In a woman's right to make decisions about her own body.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
And that is why in every state where this issue
has been on the ballot, in red and blue states,
both the people of America have voted for freedom.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Vice President, excuse me, I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Have to respond another lie. It's another lie.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization
the IVF.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I have been a leader.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
In fact, when they got a very negative decision on
IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of
Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
I've been a leader on it. They know that, and
everybody else knows it. I have been a leader on
fertilization IVF and the other thing. They you should ask
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will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month,
seventh month?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay? Would you do that? Why don't you ask me
that question?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
That's the question, would you because you could do abortions
in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month,
and probably after birth. Just look at the governor, former
governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said, we put
the baby aside and then we determine what we want
to do with a baby.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.
We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats,
voters across the board in this country. Vice President Harris,
you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the
root causes of migration from Central America. We know that
illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.
This past June. President Biden posed tough new asylum restrictions.
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We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly. But
my question to you tonight is why did the administration
wait until six months before the election to act And
would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
So I'm the only person on this stage who has
prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs,
and human beings. And let me say that the United
States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of
the United States Senate, came up with a border security.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Bill which I supported.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And that bill would have put fifteen hundred more border
agents on the border to help those folks who are
working there right now over time trying to do their job.
It would have allowed us to stem the flow of
fentanyl coming into the United States. I know there are
so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected
by the surge of fentanyl in our country. That bill
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would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute
transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
But you know what happened to that bill.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks
in Congress and said kill the bill. And you know why,
because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem. And understand, this comes at a time
where the people of our country actually need a leader
who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
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But what we have in the former president is someone
who would prefer to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
And I'll tell you something.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
He's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even
when it's not the subject.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
That is being raised. And I'm going to actually do
something really unusual, And.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald
Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
You will see during the course of his rallies he
talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
He will talk about wind mills cause cancer.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
And what you will also notice is that people start
leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And
I will tell you the one thing you will not
hear him talk is you. You will not hear them
talk about your needs, your dreams, and your need and
your desires. And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve
a president who actually puts you first.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
And I pledge to you that I will.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
On that point. I want to get your respons I.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Would like to respond let me just ask them, why
did you try to kill that bill and successfully? So
that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers
on the board.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Responders to the rallies, she said, people start leaving. People
don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go.
And the people that do go, she's busting them in
and paying them to be there and then showing them
in a different light, so she can't talk about that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
People don't leave my rallies.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in
the history of politics. That's because people want to take
their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a
failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago.
And what's going on here. You're gonna end up in
World War three. Just to go into another subject, what
they have done to our cut by allowing these millions
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and millions of people to come into our country. And
look at what's happening to the towns all over the
United States, and a lot of towns don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
A lot of towns don't want to talk about it
because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating
the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats,
they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that
live there. And this is what's happening in our country.
And it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned.
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As far as the reason they go is, they like
what I say. They want to bring our country back.
They want to make America great against very simple phrase,
make America great again. She's destroying this country and if
she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
Not only success will end up being venezuela or steroids.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABCDWS did reach out to the same the manager there.
He told us there had been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All I see people on Telligent. Let me just say here,
this is the people on television. So my dog was
taken and used for food.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good
thing to say for a city manager.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm not taking this from television on television to.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Say dog was eaten by the people that went there.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Again, the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of
that vices. I'll let you respond to the rest of
what you've.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Heard talk about extreme.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Uh, you know I this is I think one of
the reasons why in this election, I actually have the
endorsement of two hundred Republicans who have formerly worked with
President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement
of former Vice President Dick Cheney and congress Member Liz Cheney.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
And if you want to really know the inside, I.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Track on who the former president is. If he didn't
make it.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
His former chief of staff of four star general has
said he has contempt for the constitution of the United States.
His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous
and unfit. His former Secretary of Defense has said the
nation the Republic would never survive another Trump term. And
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when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the
issues that affect the American people are not being addressed,
I think the choice is clear in this election.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
President Trump will give you a quick minute to.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Respond, he thank you, because when I hear that. See,
I'm a different kind of a person. I fired most
of those people, not so graciously. They did bad things
or bad job, I fired him. They never fired one person.
They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and
the Taliban and the thirteen people who is who's were
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just killed viciously and violently killed, And I got to
know the parents and the family.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
They didn't fire. They should have.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Fired all those generals, all those top people, because that
was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has
ever seen. So when somebody does a bad job, I
fire him. And you take a guy like Esper, he
was no good.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I fired him. So he writes a book.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Another one writes a book because with me they can
write books. With nobody else can they. But they have
done such a poor job, and they never fire anybody.
Look at the economy, look at the inflation. They didn't
fire any of their economists. They have the same people.
That's a good way not to have books written about you.
But just to finish, I got more votes than any
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Republican in history by far. In fact, I got more
votes than any president sitting president in history by far.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted
to talk about earlier. So let's get back to your
deportation proposal that the Vice president has reacted to as
well President's frum. You call this the largest domestic deportation
operation in the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You say you would use the national Guard.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You say if things get out of control, you have
no problem using the US military.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You've also said you would use local police.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
How would you deport eleven million undocumented immigrants? I know
you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this.
What does this look like? Will authorities be going door
to door in this country?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, it is much higher. Because of them.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
They allowed criminals, many, many millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists,
they allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in,
drug dealers to come into our country and there now
in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela,
don't ever come back or we're going to kill you.
Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in
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countries all over the world is way down.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You know why?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've
given them to her to put into our country, and
this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history
for them to allow. And I think they probably did
it because they think they're going to get votes. But
it's not worth it because they're destroying the fabric of
our country by what they've done. There's never been anything
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done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of
our country. Millions of people let in and all over
the world. Crime is down all over the world except here.
Crime here is up and through the roof. Despite their
fraudulent statements that they made. Crime in this country is
through the roof, and we have a new form of
crime is called migrant crime, and it's happening at levels
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that nobody thought possible than Trump.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
As you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is
actually coming down in this country.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But excuse me, the FBI defraud. They were defrauding statements.
They didn't include the worst cities, they didn't include the
cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just
like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs
that they said they could.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It turned out to be a fraud.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
President Trump, thank you. I'll let you respond by his
President hay R.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I think this is so rich coming from someone who
has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference,
has been found libel for sexual assault, and his next
big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
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And let's be clear where each person stands on the
issue of what is important about respect for the rule
of law and respect for law enforcement. The former Vice
president called for defunding federal law enforcement forty five thousand agents.
Get this on the day after he was arranged on
thirty four felony counts. So let's talk about what is
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important in this race. It is important that we move forward,
that we turn the page on this same old tired
rhetoric and address the needs of the American people. Address
what we need to do about the housing shortage, which
I have a plan for, Address what we must do
to support our small businesses, Address bringing down the price
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of groceries.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
But frankly, the.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
American people are exhausted with the same auld tire playbook.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Vice President Harris, thank.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You excuse me.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Every one of those cases was started by them against
their political opponent, and I'm winning most of them, and
I will win the rest of an appeal, and you
saw that with a decision that came down just recently
from the Supreme Court. I'm winning most of them, but
those are cases. It's called weaponization. Never happened in this country.
They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases
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was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fawnie Willis
to the Attorney General of New York and the DA
in New York.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Every one of those cases.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
And then they say, oh, he's a criminal. They're the
ones that made them go after me. By the way,
Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.
And what happened in my documents case, they said, oh,
that's the.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Toughest of them all.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
A complete and total victory.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Two months ago it was thrown out.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Its weaponization, and they used it and has never happened
in this country.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
They used it to try and win an election, present
in fake cases.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
President Trump, thank you a really quick response to your
Vice President Harris on this notion of weaponization of the
Justice Department.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in
which this election in twenty twenty four is taking place.
The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former
president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he
were to enter the White House.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Again.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Understand, this is someone who has openly said he would
terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States,
that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his
political enemies, someone who has opened expressed disdain for members
of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald
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Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
We know JD.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Vance is not going to stop him. It's up to
the American people.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Vice President stop him. Thank you, Lindsy.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, this is.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
The one that weaponized, not me. She weaponized.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I probably took a bullet to the head because of
the things that they say about me. They talk about democracy.
I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy.
Whether it fake Russia or Russia Russia investigation.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It went nowhere.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
We have a lot to get to, lindsay, Vice President Harris,
in your last run for president, you said you wanted
to ban fracking, Now you don't. You wanted mandatory government
buyback programs for assault weapons. Now your campaign says you don't.
You supported decriminalizing border crossings. Now you're taking a harder line.
I know you say that you're val values have not changed,
So then why have so many of your policy positions changed.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
So my values have not changed, and I'm going to
discuss every one of the at least every point that
you've made. But in particular, let's talk about fracking, because
we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in
twenty twenty. I will not band fracking. I have not
banned fracking as Vice President of the United States, and
in fact, I was the tie breaking vote on the
Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My
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position is that we have got to invest in diverse
sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production
in history because of an approach that recognizes that we
cannot over rely on foreign oil.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
As it relates to my values, let me.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Tell you I grew up a middle class kid, raised
by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was
able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.
The values I bring to the importance of home ownership.
Knowing not everybody got handed four hundred million dollars on
a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is
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a value that I bring to my work to say
we are going to work with the private sector and
homebuilders to increase three million homes. Increase by three million
homes by the end of my first term.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
My work that is.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Related to having a friend when I was in high
school who is sexually assaulted by her stepfather, and my
focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime
is based on a value that is deeply grounded in
the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
My work that is about.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Protecting social Security and Medicare is based on long standing
work that I have done protecting seniors from scams. My
values have not changed, and what is important is that
there is a president who actually brings values and a
perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating
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people down and name calling. The true measure of the
leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is
not in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
I intend to be that president.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
You well, first of all, I wasn't given four hundred
million dollars I wish I was. My father was a
Brooklyn build at Brooklyn Queens and a great father, and
I learned a lot from him. But I was given
a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and have built
it into many many billions of dollars, many many billions.
And when people see it, they are even surprised. So
we don't have to talk about that fracking. She's been
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against it for twelve years. Defund the police, she's been
against that forever. She gave all that stuff up very wrongly,
very horribly, and everybody's.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Laughing at it. Okay, they're all laughing at it.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
She gave up at least twelve and probably fourteen or
fifteen different policies like she was big on defune the
police in Minnesota, she went out, I'm talking now, you
don't mind, please, does that sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
She went out.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis, she went out
and raised money to get them out of jail.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
She did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens.
That are in prison. This is a radical left liberal
that would do this. She wants to confiscate your guns.
And she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania. If she
won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one,
just to finish one thing so important in my opinion.
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So I got the oil business going like nobody has
ever done before they took When they took over, they
got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and
the prices were going up the roof. They immediately let
these guys go to where they were.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I would have been five.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Times four times, five times higher, because you're talking about
three and a half years ago. They got it up
to where I was because they had no choice because
the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling. You saw
what happened to gasoline. So they said, let's go back
to Trump. But if she won the election, the day
after that election, they'll go back to destroying our country
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and oil will be dead, fossil fuel will be dead.
We'll go back to windmills, and we'll go back to solar,
where they need a whole desert to get some energy
to come out of You ever see a solar plant
By the way, I'm a big fan of solar, but.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
They take.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Four hundred five hundred acres of desert so much.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
These are not good things in the environment, as she understands.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Thank you, Lindsey, Thank you. We have an election in
just fifty six days. I want to talk about the
peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know
is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of
a president in a moment of crisis. Mister President, on
January you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
You said you would be right there with them.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
The country in the world saw what played out of
the Capitol that day, the officers coming under attack. Aids
in the West Wings say, you watched it unfold on
television off the Oval office. You did send out tweets,
but it was more than two hours before you sent
out that video message telling your supporters to go home.
Is there anything you regret about what you did on
that day?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on, peacefully and patriotically.
And nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley Babbitt
was shot by an out of control police officer that
should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace, but
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we didn't do this group of people that have been
treated so badly. I asked, what about all the people
that are pouring into our country and killing people that
she allowed to pourt it? She was the boatizar, Remember
that she was the borders are I want to be
called the voters up because she's.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Embarrassed by the voter effect.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
She said at the beginning, Oh, I'm surprised you're not
talking about the body yet. That's because she knows what
a bad job they've done. What about those people? What
are they going to be prosecuted? One of these people
from countries all over the world, not just South America.
They're coming in from all over the world, David, all
over the world, and crime rates are down all over
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the world because of it. But one of those, David,
one of those people going to be prosecuted. One of
the people that burned down Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted.
Or in Seattle they wanted to see Seattle. They took
over a big percentage of the city of Seattle. One
of those people going to be prosecuted. But let me
just ask you might ask her that.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Question if you were the president you were watching an
unfold on television. It's a very simple question. As we
move forward toward another election, is there anything you regret
about what you did on that day.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
I had nothing to do with that other than they
asked me to make a speech. I showed up for
a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big.
I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, DC,
and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know,
I said, you know, this is going to be a
very big rally or whatever you want to call it.
And again, it wasn't done by me, it was done
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by others. I said, I'd like to give you ten
thousand National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy Pelosi
rejected me. It was just two weeks ago. Her daughter
has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible
for what happened.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
If they want to get rid of that tape, it.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the Mayor
of Washington did the jobs. I wasn't responsible for security.
Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
She didn't do her job.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
The question was about you, as President, not about former
Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to
respond here.
Speaker 8 (46:45):
I was at the Capitol on January sixth. I was
the Vice president elect. I was also an acting senator.
I was there, and on that day, the President of
the United States insided a violent mob to attack our
nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day,
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one hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured and
some died. And understand the former president has been indicted
and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not
an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a
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mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate.
And what did the president then at the time say,
there were fine people on each side.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
Let's remember that.
Speaker 8 (47:43):
When it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the
president said, the former president said stand back and stand by.
So for everyone watching who remembers what January sixth was,
I say, we don't.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
Have to go back. Let's not go back. We're not
going back.
Speaker 8 (48:02):
It's time to turn the page. And if that was
a bridge too far for you, well there is a
place in our campaign for you to stand for country,
to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law,
and to end the chaos and to end the approach
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that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because
you don't like the outcome. And be clear on that point.
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a blood pass if this and the outcome
of this election is not to his liking. Let's turn
the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart
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a course for the future and not go backwards to
the past.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Let me just follow up here.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
It was a different term, and it was a term
that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy.
That was where Bloodbeth was also on Charlottesville. That story
has been, as you would say, debunked. Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity,
all of these people, they covered it.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
If they go an.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was
debunked in almost every newspaper. But they still bring it up,
just like they bring.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Twenty twenty five up. They bring all of this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
I ask you this, you talk about the capitol, Why
are we allowing these millions of people to come through
on the southern border.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
How comes she's not doing anything. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
I would do, and I would be very proud to
do it. I would say we would both leave this
debate right now. I'd like to see her go down
to Washington, DC during this debate because we're.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Wasting a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Go down to because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Go down to Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
And let her sign a bill to close up the
border because they have the right to do it. They
don't need bills, they have the right to do it.
The president of the United States, you'll get them out
of bed, wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon.
You'll say, come on, come on down to the office.
Let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that
the border is closed, only has to do is say
it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they
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do that, the border is closed. Mister, most people are
killing many people.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Unlike J six, we talked to immigration here tonight, I
do want to focus on this next issue to both
of you because it really brings us this into focused
truth in these times that we're living in. Mister President,
for three and a half years, After you lost the
twenty twenty election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won,
many times saying you won in a landslide. In the
past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you
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have said quote you lost by a whisker, that you
quote didn't quite make it, that you came up a
little bit short. I say that, are you now acknowledging
that you lost in.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Twenty twentydomage editor, I said that sarcastically, you know that,
and we said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That
was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof. All you
have to do is look at it. And they should
have sent it back to the legislatures for approval. I
got almost seventy five million votes, the most votes any
sitting president has ever gotten. I was told if I
got sixty three, which was what I got in twenty.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Sixteen, you can't be beaten the election.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
People should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent.
We need two things. We need walls we need and
we have to have it. We have to have borders,
and we have to have good elections. Our elections are
bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in
they're trying to get them to vote. They can't even
speak English, they don't even know what country they're in, practically,
and these people are trying to get them to vote,
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and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I did watch all of these pieces of video. I
didn't detect the sarcasm lost by Whisker. We didn't quite
make it. And we should just point out here as clarification.
And you know this, You and your allies sixty cases
in front of many judges.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Many of them judge looked at it and they said,
we didn't have standing. That's the other thing. They said,
we didn't have standing a technicality. Can you imagine a
system where a person in an election doesn't have standing?
The President of the United States doesn't have standing.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
That's how we lost.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
If you look at the facts, and I'd love to
have you do, you'll do a special on it. I'll
show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll
show you Pennsylvania, and I'll show you. We have so
many facts and statistics. But you know what, that doesn't
matter because we have to solve the problem that we
have right now.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's old news. And the problem that we have right.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Now is we have a nation in decline, and they
have put it into decline.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
We have a nation that is dying.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
David, mister President, thank you. Vice President Harris. You heard
the president there tonight. He said he didn't say that
that he lost by whiskers, so he still believes he
did not lose the election that was won by President
Biden and yourself. But I do want to ask you
about something that's come up in the last couple of days.
This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming
election just weeks away. He said, when I win, those
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people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials.
He says, we'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law, which will include long term prison sentences. One
of your campaign's top lawyers responded, saying, we won't let
Donald Trump intimidate us. We won't let him suppress the vote.
Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?
Speaker 8 (53:14):
Donald Trump was fired by eighty one million people, so
let's be clear about that. And clearly he is having
a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford
to have a president of the United States who attempts,
as he did in the past, to upend the will
of the voters in a free and fair election. And
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I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the
world as Vice President of the United States, and world
leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with
military leaders, some of whom work with you, and they say,
you're a disgrace.
Speaker 7 (53:52):
And when you then talk in this way.
Speaker 8 (53:55):
In a presidential debate and deny what over and over
again our court cases you have lost because you did,
in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe
that perhaps we do not have in the candidate, to
my right, the temperament or the ability to not be
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confused about fact. That's deeply troubling, and the American people
deserve better.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I'll give you one minute response.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Let me just say about world leaders.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Victor Orban one of the most respected men.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
They call him a strong man.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
He's a tough person, smart Prime Minister of Hungary. They said,
why is the whole world blowing up? Three years ago
it wasn't. Why is it blowing up? He said, because
you need Trump back as president. They were afraid of him.
China was afraid and I don't like to use the
word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. China was afraid
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of him. North Korea was afraid of him. Look at
what's going on with North Korea. By the way, he said,
Russia was afraid of him. I ended the North Stream
two p pipeline and Biden put it.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Back on day one.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
But he ended the Excel pipeline, the Excel pipeline in
our country. He ended that, but he let the Russians
build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany,
the biggest pipeline in the world. Look, Victor Orban said it.
He said, the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
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We had no problems when Trump was president. But when
this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate
just a few months ago that if you weren't in
that debate, he'd be running onstead of her. She got
no votes. He got fourteen million votes. What you did,
you talk about a threat to democracy? He got fourteen
million votes, and they threw him out of office.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
And you know what, I'll give you a little secret.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
He hates her, he can't stand her, but he got
fourteen million votes.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
They threw him out.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
She got zero votes, and when she ran, she was
the first one to.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Leave because she failed, and now she's running.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
I don't understand, okay with it because your time, I
think we're going to do very well.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
You've got a lot more to get too.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
Turning now to the Israel Hamas war and the hostages
who are still being held, Americans among them. Vice President Harris.
In December, you said, quote Israel has a right to
defend itself, but you added quote it matters how saying
international humanitarian law must be respected. Israel must do more
to protect innocent civilians. You said that nine months ago.
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Now an estimated forty thousand Palestinians are dead, nearly one
hundred hostages remain. Just last week Prime Minister Benjamin ett Yah,
who said there's not a deal in the making. President
Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate.
How would you do it?
Speaker 8 (56:39):
Well, let's understand how we got here. On October seven, Hamas,
a terrorist organization, slaughtered twelve hundred Israelis, many of them
young people who are simply attending a concert. Women were
horribly raped, and so absolutely I said, then, I say,
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now Israel has a right to defend itself. We would,
and how it does so matters because it is also true,
far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed, children, mothers.
What we know is that this war must end. It
must when end immediately, and the way it will end
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is we need a cease fire deal and we need
the hostages out, and so we will continue to work
around the clock on that work around the clock, also
understanding that we must chart a course for a two
state solution, and in that solution there must be security
for the Israeli people and Israel and an equal measure
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for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure
you always, I will always give Israel the ability to
defend itself, in particular as it rates as it relates
to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies
post to Israel. But we must have a two state
solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security,
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self determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
Speaker 6 (58:12):
President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanya who and
also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and
prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
If I were president, it would have never started. If
I were president, Russia would have never ever. I know
putin very well, he would have never.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
And there was no threat of it either.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
By the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine
and killed millions of people when you ended up far
worse than people understand what's going on over there. But
when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden, she
hates Israel. She wouldn't even meet with net Yahoo when
he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
She refused to be there because she was at a
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sorority party of hers. She wanted to go to the
sorority party. She hates Israel if she president. I believe
that Israel will not exist within two years from now,
and I've been pretty good at predictions, and.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
I hope we're wrong about that one.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
She hates Israel at the same time, in her own way,
she hates the Arab population because the whole place is
going to get blown up, Arabs, Jewish people, Israel, Israel
will be gone. It would have never happened. Iran was
broke under Donald Trump. Now Iran has three hundred billion
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dollars because they took off all the sanctions that I had.
Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbola or any
of the twenty eight different spheres of Terra, and they
are spheres of Terra. Horrible Terra. They had no money.
It was a big story, and you know it. You
covered it very well. Actually they had no money for Terra.
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They were broke. Now they're a rich nation, and now
what they're doing is they're spreading that money around. Look
at what's happening with the and Yemen. Look at what's
going on in the Middle East. This would have never happened.
I will get that settled and fast, and I'll get
the war with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And Russia ended.
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
If I'm president elect, I'll get it done before even
becoming president.
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Vice President Harris, he says, you hate Israel.
Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
That's absolutely not true. I have my entire career and
life supported Israel and the Israeli people. He knows that
he's trying to again divide and distract from the reality,
which is it is very well known that Donald Trump
is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
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It is well known that he admires dictators, wants to
be a dictator.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
On day one according to himself.
Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
It is well known that he said of Putin that
he can do whatever the hell he wants and go
into Ukraine. It is well known that he said when
Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant. It is well
known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong un.
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
And it is absolutely well known that.
Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
These dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be
president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you
with flattery and favors. And that is why so many
military leaders who you have worked with have told me
you are a disgrace. That is why we understand that
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we have to have a president who is not consistently weak.
Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
And wrong on national security.
Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard
our military.
Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
Vice President Harris, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You the ones.
Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
And she's the one that caused it, that's weak or
national security by allowing every nation last month for the year,
one hundred and sixty eight different countries sending people into
our country weights way down. Putin endorsed her last week
said I hope she wins, and I think he meant it,
because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible. It
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wouldn't have happened with me. The leaders of other countries
think that they're weak and incompetent, and they are, They're
grossly incompetent. And I just asked one question, why does
Biden go in and kill the Keystone pipeline and approve
the single biggest deal that Rush has ever made, Nordstream too,
the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world, going to Germany.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
And all over Europe.
Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Because they're weak and they're ineffective. And Biden, by the way,
gets paid a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to.
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Into this conflict. Mister President.
Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
It has been the position of the Biden administration that
we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin, to
defend their sovereignty, their democracy, that it's an America's best
interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he
may be emboldened to move even further into other countries.
You have said you would solve this war in twenty
four hours. You said so just before the break tonight.
How exactly would you do that? And I want to
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ask you a very simple question tonight. Do you want
Ukraine to win this war?
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I want the war to stop.
Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
I want to save lives that are being uselessly, people
being killed by the millions. It's the millions is so
much worse than the numbers that you're getting with you're
faith numbers. Look, we're in for two hundred and fifty
billion or more. Because they don't ask Europe, which is
a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than
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we are.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
They're in for one hundred and.
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Fifty billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have
the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO.
They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars
when I said, either you pay up or we're not
going to protect you anymore. So that's maybe one of
the reasons that don't like me as much as they
like weak people.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
But you take a look at what's happening.
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
We're in for two hundred and fifty to two hundred
and seventy five billion, they're into one hundred to one
hundred and fifty. They should be forced to equalize. With
that being said, I want to get the war settled.
I know Zelenski very well, and I know Putin very well.
I have a good relationship. And they respect your president. Okay,
they respect me. They don't respect Biden. How would you
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respect him?
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Why? For what reason?
Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
He hasn't even made a phone call in two years
to hasn't spoken to anybody. They don't even try and
get it. That is a war that's dying to be settled.
I will get it settled before I even become president
if I win. When I'm president elect, and what I'll
do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other,
I'll get him together, that war would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
And in fact, when I saw Putin after.
Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I left, unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell.
But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers,
he did it. After I left, I said, oh, he
must be negotiating. It must be a good strong point
of negotiation. Well it wasn't because Biden had no idea
how to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
He had no idea how to stop it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
And now you have millions of people dead and it's
only getting worse, and it could lead to World War three.
Don't kid yourself, David. We're playing with World War three
and we have a president that we don't even know
if he's Where is our president? We don't even know
if he's a president.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Just a clarity.
Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
I threw him out of a campaign. Ain't like a dog.
We don't even know is he a president? But we
have a president.
Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Mister president doesn't know he's alive. Your time is up.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Just to clarifying the question, do you believe it's in
the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war?
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yesterday?
Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
I think it's the US best interest to get this
war finished and just get it done. Negotiated deal because
we have to stop all of these human lives from
being destroyed.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I want to take this device President Harris. I want
to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment,
but also as commander in chief if elected, how would
you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any
different from what we're seeing from President Biden.
Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (01:06:38):
All, it's important to remind the former president, you're not
running against Joe Biden, You're running against me. I believe
the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would
be over within twenty four hours is because he would
just give it up. And that's not who we are
as Americans. Let's understand what happened here. I actually met
with Zelansky a few days before Russia invaded tried through
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force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the
most important international rules and norms, which is the importance
of sovereignty and territorial integrity. And I met with President Zelansky.
I shared with him American intelligence about how he could
defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank
to Poland and Romania, and through the work that I
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and others did. We brought fifty countries together to support
Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support,
because of the air defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins,
the abrams tanks that we have provided, Ukraine stands as
an independent and free country. If Donald Trump were president,
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Putin would be sitting in.
Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Kiev right now.
Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is
not just about Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
Understand why the European.
Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
Allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you
are no longer president, and that we understand the importance
of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known,
which is NATO, and what we have done to preserve
the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for
their independence. Otherwise Putin would be sitting in Kiev with
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his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland.
And why don't you tell the eight hundred thousand Polish
Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give
up for the sake of favor and what you think
is a friendship with what is known to be a
dictator who would eat you for lunch.
Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Vice President Harris, thank you. We've heard from both of
you on Ukraine tonight. Afghanistan came up in the last hour.
I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier,
and now please I'll give you a minute here.
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have
lost three hundred thousand men in women, but he would
been sitting in Moscow, quiet place. He would have been
sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now.
But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other
people don't have. He's got nuclear weapons. They don't ever
talk about that. He got nuclear weapons. Nobody ever thinks
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about that. And eventually maybe he'll use him. And maybe
he hasn't been that threatening, but he does have that
something we don't even like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Nobody likes to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate
peace before this war started. Three days later, he went
in and he started the war because everything they said
was weak and stupid.
Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
Vice President, private healthcare options. But what we need to
do is maintain and grow the affordable carecter. But I'll
get to that, Lindsay. I just need to respond to
a previous point that the former president has made. I've
made very clear my position on fracking. And then this
business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls and I
are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away.
So stop with the continuous line about this stuff as
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it relates to the Affordable Care Act. Understand, let's just
look at the history to know where people stand. When
Donald Trump was president sixty times he tried to get
rid of the Affordable Care Act sixty times. I was
a senator at the time when I will never forget
the early morning hours when it was up for a
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vote in the United States Senate, and the late great
John McCain, who you have disparaged as being you don't
like him, you said at the time because he got caught.
He was an American hero, The late great John McCain,
I will never forget that night walked onto the Senate
floor and said, no, you don't, no, you don't, no,
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you don't get rid of the Affordable Charact. You have
no plan. And what the Affordable Care Act has done
is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people
with pre existing conditions.
Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
I don't have to tell the people Washington night. You
remember what that was like.
Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
Remember when an insurance company could deny if a child
had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor if
a grandparent had diabetes. And thankfully, as I've been Vice
president and we over the last four years have strengthened
the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time,
Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you, the
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American people. Donald Trump said he was going to allow
Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
He never did.
Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
We did.
Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
And now we have capped the cost of insulin at
thirty five dollars a month.
Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
Since I've been Vice president, we have capped the cost
of prescription medication for.
Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Seniors at two thousand dollars a year. And when I
am president, we will do that for all people. Understanding
that the value I bring to this is that access
to healthcare should be a right and not just a
privilege of those who can afford it. And the plan
has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not
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get rid of it fast as roll us. In terms
of where Donald Trum stands on that, I want.
Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
To move to an issue that's important for a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I get a mistake at number one.
Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
John McCain fought Obamacare for ten years, but it wasn't
only him, It were all of the Democrats that kept
it going. And you know what, we can do much
better than Obamacare, much less money. But she won't improve
private insurance for people, private medical insurance. That's another thing
she does to exemple are paying privately for insurance that
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have worked hard and made money and they want to
have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance
where you wait six months for an operation that you
need to meeting.
Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
President Trump, thank you. We have another issue that we'd
like to get to that's important for a number of Americans,
in particular younger voters, and that's climate change. President Trump,
with regard to the environment, you say that we have
to have clean air and clean water. Vice President Harris,
you call climate change an existential threat. The question to
you both tonight is what would you do to fight
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climate change? And Vice President Harris will start with you
one minute for you each.
Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
Well, the former president had said the climate change as
a hoax, and what we know is that it is
very real.
Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
You ask anyone who lives.
Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
In a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences,
who now is either being denied home insurance or its
being jacked up. You ask anybody who has been the
victim of what that means in terms of losing their
home having nowhere to go. We know that we can
actually deal with this issue. The young people of America
care deeply about this issue, and I am proud that
(01:13:34):
as Vice president, over the last four years, we have
invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy, while
we have also increased domestic gas production to historic levels.
We have created over eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs.
While I have been Vice president, we have invested in
clean energy to the point that we are opening up
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factories around the world. Donald Trump said he was going
to create manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
He lost manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the
United Autoworkers and Sean Fain, who also know that part
of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American
made products, American automobiles. It includes growing what we can
do around American manufacturing and opening up auto plants, not
(01:14:24):
closing them like happened under Donald Truce, President Harris, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
That didn't happen under Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Let me just tell you they lost ten thousand manufacturing
jobs this last month.
Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
It's going they're all leaving.
Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases
owned by China. They're building these massive plants, and they
think they're going to sell their cars into the United
States because of these people. What they have given to
China is unbelievable. But we're not going to let that.
We'll put tariffs in those cars so they can't come
into our country because they will kill the United auto
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workers and any order worker, whether it's in Troit or
South Carolina or any other place. What they've done to
business and manufacturing in this country is horrible. We have
nothing because they refuse. You know, Biden doesn't go after
people because supposedly China paid them millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
He's afraid to do it. Between him and his son.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
They get all this money from Ukraine, they get all
this money from all of these different countries, and then
you wonder, why is he so loyal to this one
that one Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
China?
Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Why is he Why did he get three and a
half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife. Why
did he get why did she pay him three and
a half million dollars. This is a crooked administration and
they're selling our country down the tubes.
Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
President Trump, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
We'll be right back with closing statements from both of
our candidates. An historic night this ABCDS presidential debate.
Speaker 9 (01:15:52):
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here on KFI.
Speaker 10 (01:15:57):
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Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
Michel here, You've been listening to the ABC News presidential
debate simulcast here on KFI. We're waiting for the candidates
to return. They'll probably give their closing statements at this point.
Because of a coin flip, former President Trump will resume,
a student will go last.
Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions
for our country. One that is focused on the future
and the other that is focused on the past and
an attempt to take us backward. But we're not going back.
And I do believe that the American people know we
all have so much more in common than what separates
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us and we can chart a new way forward and
a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations,
the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people,
which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy,
investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we
(01:17:07):
can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that
is about giving hard working folks a break and bringing
down the cost of living.
Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
I believe in what we can.
Speaker 8 (01:17:19):
Do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the
world and ensuring that we have the respect that we
so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we
have the most lethal fighting force in the world. I
will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights
and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make
(01:17:40):
decisions about her own body and not have her government
tell her what to do. I'll tell you I started
my career as a prosecutor. I was a DA I
was an attorney general, a United States Senator, and now
Vice President.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
I've only had one client, the people.
Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
And I'll tell you as a prosecutor, I never asked
a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or
a Democrat.
Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay?
Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
And that's the kind of president we need right now,
someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.
I intend to be a president for all Americans and
focus on what we can do over the next ten
and twenty years to build back up our country by
investing right now in you, the American people.
Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
Vice President Harris, thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Why hasn't she done it.
Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
She's been there for three and a half years. They've
had three and a half years to fix the border,
they've had three and a half years to create jobs
and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she
done it? She should leave right now, go down to
that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together,
and do the things you want to do. But you
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haven't done it, and you won't do it because you
believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
You believe in things like we're not going to frack,
we're not going to take fossil fuel. We're not going
to do things that are going to make this country strong,
whether you like it or not. Germany tried that and
within one year they were back to building.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Normal energy plants. We're not ready for it.
Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.
But I just ask one simple question, why didn't she
do it. We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's
in serious decline. We're being laughed at all over the world.
All over the world they laugh. I know the leaders
very well. They're coming to see me, they call me.
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We're laughed at all over the world.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's
going on. We have wars going on in the Middle East.
We have wars going on with Russia and you Ukraine.
We're going to end up in a Third World War,
and it'll be a war like no other because of
nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military.
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She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban,
she gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done
to our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing
millions of people to come into our country. Many of
them are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president,
the worst vice president in the history of our country.
Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
President Trump, thank you, and that is our ABC News
presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center.
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