September 13, 2024 • 31 mins
Tua Tagovailoa Concussion explained by a Concussion Doctor. // Tim plays more parody songs written about people. // The buy nothing movement helps millions save money and the planet. // Are California wildfires getting worse?; The Line Fire arsonist tried to set the fire 3 different times.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On the iHeartRadio app ding Dong with you. There was
a there's a very good doctor on YouTube who is
a specialist in head injury and talked about the injury
to tua tagler viola or tonga viola, whatever pronunciation you're using,
(00:29):
and talked about how severe this injury is. And he
talks about, here's something and I didn't know this because
I'm not a you know, a specialist, but when the
thing that screws your brain up when you get a
concussion is most of the time, I think one percent
of the time, your body is moving and when your
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body stops, your brain wants to keep moving and your
brain collides into your skull. So if you're moving and
you get hit, I guess you could get hit by hammer, right,
and that you're in your body's not moving, you're just
hit it in the hammer, and that's a different kind
of concussion. But when your body's moving and your brain
stops or your head stops, your brain wants to keep
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moving and it hits the inside of your skull and
that's what causes the concussion. He explains it much better.
His name is Brian Sutter or s U. T t
e r e Er medical doctor. And listen to him
explain what happened to Tula here last night in the
Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Now, what's happening in the brain as this hit occurs?
Right all of to his momentum is carrying him forward
into the Bills player. As he makes contact, there's this sudden,
abrupt stop where right there his brain wants to continue moving.
The brain still wants to continue moving forward, but you've
hit this rigid object and so the helmet, the skull stops,
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the brain continues to move, and all of that energy
gets imparted into the actual cells within the brain. You
then get this rotational component. And what happens to actually
cause the cussion, to cause the brain injury is the
whole sequence of things. There's actual rotational sheer forces that
can damage, that can tear the neurons. You get this
widespread sort of brief activation and then release of neurotransmitters
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as all that energy is being transferred into the skull.
Thinking of like that brain, you know, bouncing back and
forth within the skull. The combined component here of that
rotational twist can put additional stress on the brain stem,
which we theorize might be part of how and why
we see those external posturing responses because a lot of
those reflexes are centered within the brainstem. One of the
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first things we can observe them with the posturing is
we see his right lower extremity. The right leg is
planar flex, that foot is pointed downward, the ankles pointed downward,
along with a little bit of this inversion. That's not
what happens when you're just completely limp and unconscious. That's
going to be from muscle activation again centering within the
brain going down and affecting that right lower leg. And
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now from this angle we can see not only do
you get that initial axiol lode into the head, but
then as he falls, his head is going to smack
against the turf, which is going to cause another insult
to the brain. It might have been part of why
we saw that posturing sort of response. So as we
keep playing through here, initially we're going to see his
body again, that right lower leg, we see how it's
(03:18):
tensed up. We see that ankle pointed downward. We're going
to start to see the right hand go into that
awkward flexed position with his hands being rigid, similar to
what we saw happened last year.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Oh man, that is just very difficult to watch.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And then as he's trying to kind of roll over again,
we see that rigid firing of the hands. The arms
are coming up towards the head in that sort of
protective response. And then as he continues to try to
get up here we even see some changes in the
left hand. As he's working to start a regain conscious
push himself up, we see how that left hand is
awkwardly extended backwards.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, it looks like his left hand.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
If you can extend your left hand or right hand
all the way back, you know, as far as you're is,
your risk will allow it. That's the way he was
getting up, and so obviously he lost control of his body,
his hands, his feet, his legs, his arms. And a
lot of people say that he'll probably be back. He
might be out for six to eight weeks, maybe ten weeks,
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and he'll probably be back. But man, oh man, what
happens on the fifth concussion? The fifth concussion, and god forbid,
he gets hit and he gets paralyzed. Man, oh man,
I think that I think he's got to quit. I
think he's got to hang him up. You know, he's again.
He just signed two hundred and twelve million dollar deal.
(04:37):
One hundred and sixty seven million of it is guaranteed, guaranteed.
If he never played again, he'd have one hundred and
sixty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That's winning the lottery.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Even if his agent takes out ten percent, manager takes
out ten percent, taxes takeout fifty percent, that's still generational
money that he could have for him and his kids,
his wife, his family for decades, if not the generations.
You know, and played right, that money should last you
for five, six, seven generations. And so why would he
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continue playing. He's going to get one hundred and sixty
seven million dollars if he doesn't play another another single
down one hundred and sixty seven Okay, so let's do
the calculation. One hundred and sixty seven million, and he's
signed for two hundred and twelve so he'd he'd be
leaving forty five million dollars on the field, on the table.
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But if you get another concussion and then all of
a sudden, you don't know your kid's names or your
wife's name, or perhaps your own what is that other
forty five million dollars worth? You know a lot of
people who have money. The one thing they do towards
the end of their life with their money, they do
one thing. They all try to purchase better health. They
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try to have surgeries, they try to get medication, they
try to have therapy, maybe plastic surgery. They all do
things to make them feel younger and look younger. And
money just doesn't do it. When it comes to concussions.
You can throw all the money in the world at it.
It just doesn't happen. So if I were him, I'd quit.
I'd quit, hang it up, become a broadcaster, maybe a coach,
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and set an example for other kids that this isn't
the end. You know, you don't have to get back
in there. He's made enough money. I would make the
big announcement and soon that it's not worth it. He's
going to raise his family, enjoy the money, enjoy the
time on the beach. I know these guys are completely
consumed by by competition and they need to get out there.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
But that's too radical to have four.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Concussions Like that man, he's close, he's close to not
knowing anything nobody.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
We've been getting a lot of requests for that song,
the Donald Trump eating Dogs eating Cats song. It's funny,
it's good and I again, I can't tell who wrote it,
whether it's a Republican, a Democrat, an independent. I can
just tell it's a male and somebody has some talent.
It's really good. It's funny as hell. You want to
(07:17):
hear it again?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You got it in Springfield.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
They're eating the pens of.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
The people that live there. They're eating the dogs, they're
eating the cats.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
They're eating the pens of the people that live there.
People love Springfield.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Please don't eat my cats.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 8 (07:50):
Eat something else?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
People love Springfield. Please don't eat my dog. Ki's a cat,
a couple other things to eat.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
They're eating the dogs, you're eating the cats, salmon man.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
They're eating the pens of the people.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
That live They're eating the dogs.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
They're getting the cat.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Salmon man.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
They're eating the pence of the people.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
That live They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats,
(08:44):
they're eating the dogs.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Swallo, they're eating the cats. Salmon man. They're eating the
pens of the people that they're eating the dogs. Swallo,
you're getting the cats salmon man. There. It depends on
the people that.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
What a song that's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It reminds me of the song that was written about
the UCLA. There was a woman named Alexandra Wallace, and
she put out on social media when I first started
here at KFI, so it had to be two thousand
and eleven or so, but she put this out on
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social media.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It's not a thought she had. It's not a.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Thought that she spread around with her other friends that
she thought would be acceptor or it's you know, this
acceptable to this kind of language. She put it out
there on social media for everybody to watch and listen to.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You remember what she said. She said about Asians in
the library.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Hi, in America, we did not talk on our cellphones
in the library, where every five minutes I will be okay,
not five minutes, say like fifteen minutes, I'll be like
deep into my studying, into my political science theories and
arguments and all that stuff, getting it all down, like
typing away furiously blah, blah blah, and then all of
(10:11):
a sudden, when I'm about to reach an epiphany over
here from somewhere, oh Jim Jumbling long Team Tom.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She put that out on social media, and then a
guy wrote a song about it that is sensational. This guy,
his name is Jimmy Wong, wrote one of the funniest,
greatest songs ever. And the greatest way to get back
at somebody is to make fun of them.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Greetings, Alexandro Worris. I am not the most poitically correct person,
so please do not find offensive.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Take you.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Alexander Wallace. Damn girl, you're so feisty. I see they
should call you Alexander a great wall.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yes, and then don't pretend.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
And let's see watch we talk of my phone yesterday.
Oh sexy h charm win one. Baby, it's all just cold.
It's the way I tell the lady is it's telling
to get a fucking I hope one day you.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
Can meet my mother, brother, sister's, grandmother's, grandpa's and cousin.
Oh d they're really doing on those Friday nights showing
me how to cooking drinks, Because baby, I'll want let's
take you out and.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Blow your freaking mind.
Speaker 11 (11:40):
And underneath the pounds makeup and your baby blue wid.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I know there's a lot of.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Pain and her for such a big brain. Spend all
nine study and Polly sign a big of my phone
section show beams out of you really said that's great,
(12:13):
cheek show never read the head is Fittis song.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Still don't know what that is.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
That's a great line. I still don't know what that did.
Did he do a reference to your show? Did he
say ding dong? He did, but it wasn't a reference
to us. But we did have him on when when
he wrote this song. It's it's so great man. He's
had almost seven million views on this thing. And he
did all the parts himself. He did all the instruments,
he wrote it, he did the vocals, the handclaps, everything,
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he did the entire thing himself.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Very talented, dude, Alex.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
I just wanted to take my phone out and talk
dirty tale all dead at all. But I know you're
busy crab and all those big odds far occupants.
Speaker 11 (13:02):
You ain't that light, nice American girl your mama.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Raised it to be.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
So when you reach that epiphany, wait, are you freaking
kidding me? If you have an epiphany every single time
you study. That means you're probably doing something wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
But like it when you're wrong, it's great. And underneath
the pound of makeup and your baby blue Wie.
Speaker 11 (13:32):
School, I known there's a lot of pain and her
for such a big brain to spend a night studying
police a pick of my phone in session.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Chow beans out of you, I really want, she said,
I really don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Jack chows never.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Heads FITTI is song.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Still don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's such a great line. I still don't know what
that means. That is awesome. That's the greatest way to
get back at somebody. You just make fun of him,
and and and and that Donald Trump song is terrific.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It was written by his.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He's on social media on x formerly Twitter, And you
want to look this up at I E y E
slash o s l A s h O.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I at I E y e s l A s
h O.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And all of the money that's being raised by that
that song, the stream revenue is going to the Clark
County s p c A. And it's gonna help stray
animals in Springfield, Ohio. So good cause that guy's great you're.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from k f
I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's a new movement out there and it's going to
save you some money. It's called the buy Nothing movement
and truly taking off. The movement is helping millions of
people save money. And you know, so instead of going
out and buying a new TV, you're sort of, you know,
just hanging with the old one. Or there's people giving
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away their TVs or you know, buying new ones. But
it's not buying anything new. And it's done for a
couple of reasons. One to save some money, but also
I'm trying to save the planet. And it was on
Good Morning America. I've heard this before, but now it's
getting national and international attention.
Speaker 13 (15:40):
With everyday prices still pretty high, the savvy shopper has
to get resourceful and what better price is there than
three and to free cycle and buy nothing groups that
have gained popularity online and in new apps. Ten years ago,
Liesel Clark and Rebecca Rockefeller founded the buy Nothing product.
Speaker 14 (16:00):
So when we started the very first group, I was
literally getting food and clothing that I could not afford. Otherwise,
people are okay, with reusing items. People are okay with
borrowing and lending and we don't have to go out
and buy new and we can rely on our neighbors.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That is interesting though, you know, instead of buying a
new tool for a project around the house, borrow one
from somebody. But if you borrow a tool from a guy,
make sure the cords wrapped properly and you clean it
before you give it back to them or else, that's
the last tool you borrow.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Including people like Madeline.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I ended up with this beautiful, basically brand new bike
that a woman a couple of blocks away wasn't using
and was willing to give away.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
For Jenna Orndorf, it was a lifesaver. After a fire,
I lost everything.
Speaker 15 (16:48):
My apartment was cond downed, I was displaced and basically
had to start over.
Speaker 13 (16:54):
She turned to the local buy nothing group on Facebook
and surprisingly found at plans.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah you know what, Also the guys who are into
the buy nothing movement, I saw this. I see it
all the time at Home Depot and Lows. And if
you go on a Sunday night the either Home DEEPO
or Lows and you sit in the parking lot for
ten minutes, you'll see this or you know, if you
go inside and just walk around, you'll see this. But
guys will come in at eight o'clock, you know, seven
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eight nine o'clock at night on a typically on a Sunday,
and they're returning a pressure washer or a diamond saw,
you know, a tile cutting saw, a you know, some
kind of table saw, a you know, a chainsaw. All
these guys, you know, they they buy it on Saturday morning,
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they do all their work with it, you know, retiling
a bathroom, and then that sucker comes back to Low's
or home depot on Sunday night. Sunday night, that's when
all that's when a guy walks into home depot. He's
covering in tile dust from his head to his toe.
There's tile dust everywhere. He could barely see. The guy
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looks like a statue and he's returning a tile saw
that doesn't work. Evidently doesn't work, and he gets his
money back. Another place where I see this is what
is the hobby lobby. Hobby lobby. A lot of people
don't know this, but hobby lobby sells Christmas decorations. I
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think people know that, and millions of people buy decorations
for Christmas But what people don't know is that hobby
Lobby has a very generous return policy, and they sat
around eighty five percent of Christmas decorations they were taken
home set up around the house. After Christmas, it all
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comes back to hobby Lobby. Eighty five percent of it
comes back, not really in the spirit of the holiday.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And they got to tighten up the return policy or
this is going to happen year after year after year,
and there is a yuck factor there.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I understand that you take all these decorations home, you
put them all around your house, you invite people over,
people think you've made it, you had some money, your
house is beautifully decorated, and then all that crap goes
back to hobby Lobby after Christmas. So if you go
to hobby Lobby right after January first, January, second, third, fourth,
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all you'll see is nine hundred people in the return
line and there doesn't seem to be any shame at all,
which is wild to just return all that stuff and
no shame at all. You know that, I also don't
see any shame. Are people returning plants that have died.
You know, you buy a flower, you buy a tree
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at home depot, Low's costco wherever it is, and then
you ignore it for six months. It dies, and then
you bring it back and there doesn't seem to be
any shame at all that you had a huge hand
in killing that bush or that tree and you're taking
it back and getting all your money back. I saw
this at home depot in Glendale. The two of the home depots.
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I got a one Burbank and one Glendale. I love
both of them. I was at one last night, but
I saw this about two years ago at the home
depot in Glendale. The guy comes in with a water heater,
this big, you know, hundred gallon tank water heater, and
he wants to return he wants to get his money
back or exchanger for a new one. And on every
water heater there they have the date that it was
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built on the little metal tag there at the bottom.
It'll tell you, you know, October nineteen eighty five whatever.
So the woman at home depots looks at it and
she said, sir, this water heater you're returning is twelve
years old. And the guy said, he said, yeah, I know,
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but it just doesn't work as well anymore. And she said, well,
but that's not really how we operate here.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean we don't.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, once you buy a water heater, it's not lifelong,
you know, free water heaters. Once it craps out after
twelve years, you got to buy a new one. And
I didn't know the outcome of what that return was.
I didn't want to stick around. I thought that would
get pretty hairy between the two of them. But man,
how about the balls on these guys returning stuff a
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water heater that's twelve years old, trying to get the
money back twelve years and no shame, none whatsoever. That
takes some personality, some personality. Steph flush reminded me of this.
I saw a commercial the other day. It's the Wendy's
breakfast burrito. Have you seen this, Stephoush, I sure have. Yeah,
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the sausage, potato and eggs. Yep, I got it without eggs,
just the sausage of potatoes, little salce on that.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And I want to go back for the second. It's unbelievable.
That's on my list tomorrow for sure. Is that new there? Yeah?
That's new?
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Is they've had like breakfast sandwiches, but you know all that,
but yeah, it's terrific.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The sausage is done perfectly, it's like overdone a little,
which is the way I like it.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You know. And the potatoes are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And again, I think the only fast food place that
still serves a baked potato. I don't know of any
other place that has the baked potato. And the best
chili in fast in the fast food business by far,
by far, is that chili at Wendy's. Oh and we're
doing a live remote there in October or November, right
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before you know, our big charity event at Catarina's Club,
We're scheduled to do a live remote at a Wendy's,
So we'll tell you more about that. You can come down,
enjoy your baked potato, your breakfast burrito, maybe a cup
of chili, maybe be cold by then, where it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
What's one hundred and fifteen out not a good data
of chili.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I was watching something on my phone.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I couldn't figure out how to shut it off, and
so the volume was going to be too loud for
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was looking at a video that a listener sent
me and.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Sorry, sorry, once in a while, you know, you just
got to apologize and take it to shorts.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
California fire fires, the wildfires are they getting worse?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It seems like it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The Bridge fire which was off the two ten just
north of Claremont near Mount Wilson. That fire last week
was reported on Saturday at two thousand acres, Saturday night
at twenty two hundred acres, then Sunday was up to
twenty three hundred. Sunday night it was up around three
three thousand acres. It just seemed to be growing by five, six,
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seven hundred acres every time they reported it. And then
I think it was on Tuesday that we were right
before we left, Crozer said, hey, that is no longer
at forty four hundred acres. I said, oh, what is
it now forty five hundred and Crozier said no, it
said thirty seven thousand acres. I said, what, how could
that be? How could a fire grow that quickly? And
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it did. It exploded, exploded over the mountains right into
right wood. And I've never seen a fire explode like
that ever. And I've been around for a long time.
You seen a lot of fires in the San Fernando Valley,
and I've never seen one explode like that, So I
think they are getting worse.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Well, it may seem like it's getting worse and worse,
and in some ways it actually is. We took a
look at the data going back several decades and here's
what we found. Year over year in California, the overall
trend since nineteen eighty seven is going up. In twenty
twenties when we saw the highest four point three million
acres burned in California, and then way back up this
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year so far nine hundred and six thousand acres burned
across the state. The FED started tracking wildfires nationally in
nineteen eighty three, and again year we have seen a
slow but steady increase. In fact, since two thousand and
four to the present, we have had the largest amount
of acres burned across the entire country. We average about
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seventy thousand acres seventy thousand fires, that is across the
entire country. The ten worst have all happened there in
two thousand and four to twenty twenty. In twenty twenty,
more than ten million acres burned across the entire country
last year.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ten million acres of trees that we could have used
to you know, build homes or you know, buildings or
whatever firewood turned into pencils, furniture, whatever you use wood for, paper,
and ten million acres are gone.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
And there's a dramatic cost in dollars in cents.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Before two thousand, federal firefighting always costs under a billion dollars.
After two thousand, it surpassed a billion. By twenty ten,
it passed two billion dollars and peaked at nearly four
billion dollars in twenty twenty one, and.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Four billion dollars in one year to fight these fires.
Of course, those are just the federal costs.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Our local agencies spends serious money fighting these fires as well.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, and you know why we got to keep paying
to fight these fires because of idiots, because of people
who go out there and start these fires on purpose
arsonis because they're losers. Here's the guy who they think
started the Line fire. Allegedly, this is.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
Where the Line fire was started in Highland a week ago. Today,
authority saying the suspect actually tried three times to set
fires the first time was in a neighborhood about a
mile away from here.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
The second time was.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Wow, this guy is not even good at starting fires
in triple digit heat.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
He had three shots at it.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
Here you can see where the fire started, but it
didn't really go anywhere. The third time, however, right there,
that's where the fire took off. Now, seven days and
thirty seven thousand acres later, charges have been filed. He's
the man accused of intentionally starting the line fire, thirty
four year old Justin Houlstenberg of Norco. How about that guy,
Justin Houlstenberg of Norkov, Norco.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
NORCO, which by other way stands for North Corona, but
not a lot of people know that NORKO stands for
North Corona.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Justin Haulstenberg of Norco now facing several charges, not only
for aggravated arson, which carries a sentence of ten years
to life in prison, but for the possession of incendiary
devices as well as additional charges related to injuries to
a firefighter and the destruction of this home in Running Spring.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, he's gonna hit with He's gonna be hit with
a lot of financial charges because he's gonna have to
pay I don't know how he's gonna do it. He's
gonna be in prison, so he's not gonna make a
lot of money if he's guilty, if he's done this,
and again he hasn't been convicted of anything. But if
he did do this, then he's gonna have to pay
everybody back, including the state, the county, the city, and
and and to fight these fires, which is going to
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be millions, tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
It's a head scratcher. There's no value to be had
out of our syncrome.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's right, it really is. It's an unbelievable crime. There's
no gain, no monetary gain. You can't retire on it.
You're not gonna make any money. You're not going to
buy a house with the you know, the profits from
stealing something.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's it's odd.
Speaker 15 (28:21):
Unless there's some unbelievably particular fetish about watching other people's
homes burn down or people get injured.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
And so that's why this is particularly galling.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
Authorities say they cracked the case when automatic license plate
readers picked up the same vehicle in the area of
all three fire starts.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh how about that the license plate readers.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They're out there, they're everywhere, and that's public information. And
so the ACLU, I think, has tried to stop that
in the past, and the Supreme Court said, no, your
license on your car is in public view and it's
not protected. And so there's there's a license plate readers everywhere.
If you drive to Las Vegas, let's say, or you
drive the Phoenix. Let's say you drive to Phoenix, your
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license plate is read probably twenty to thirty times on
your way to Arizona. And that's how they bust people
trafficking large amounts of drugs. They see the same car
going back and forth, back and forth, and they put
all that information together in a database and they can
track you down. So it's very hard to commit those
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crimes anymore, these areson crimes, especially if you're doing it
your own car and you have your cell phone with you,
because they could track down the license plate to your
car and your cell phone and nail you.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And that's exactly what they did here.
Speaker 15 (29:41):
Evidently the case when automatic license plate readers picked up
the same vehicle in the area of all three fire starts.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
How about that the same vehicle was seen was spotted
by these cameras at the bridge fire, the line fire,
and maybe the airport fire. So maybe the airport fire
wasn't started by the county moving boulders in the way
so people can't use their off road vehicles to cruise
up in the mountains. That's possible, and if that's true,
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that's going to save Orange County a ton of money.
If they're not responsible for that fire. If it turns
out this crazy cat did it, that's going to save
the county law of Orange County a ton of money.
Speaker 15 (30:23):
The same vehicle in the area of all three fire starts.
They say that, along with tips from the public and
good old fashioned detective work, led them to Halstenberg.
Speaker 16 (30:33):
As technology gets better, as our citizenry that obviously lives
here become more and more aware of what's going on,
those are the things that really contributed to the success
of this case.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You know, I guarantee you that this guy you know
who evidently allegedly started this fire, I guarantee you that,
if he did stardom that on his way back from
these fires, he was listening to KFI.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
On his radio.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I guarantee that because this is the station that broadcasts
all the information and these pyromaniacs, these are arsonists. What
they love is people talking about their mischief. And so
he's listening to either news radio or he's listening to
KFI or watching TV news and couldn't get enough of it.
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He knows that he started all these fires, and that's
evidently part of the sickness. It's unbelievable how many people
have lost everything just so this.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Guy can watch what he's done. It's unbelievable. It's unreal,
all right, Real Live on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
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can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On the iHeartRadio app ding Dong with you. There was
a there's a very good doctor on YouTube who is
a specialist in head injury and talked about the injury
to tua tagler viola or tonga viola, whatever pronunciation you're using,
(00:29):
and talked about how severe this injury is. And he
talks about, here's something and I didn't know this because
I'm not a you know, a specialist, but when the
thing that screws your brain up when you get a
concussion is most of the time, I think one percent
of the time, your body is moving and when your
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body stops, your brain wants to keep moving and your
brain collides into your skull. So if you're moving and
you get hit, I guess you could get hit by hammer, right,
and that you're in your body's not moving, you're just
hit it in the hammer, and that's a different kind
of concussion. But when your body's moving and your brain
stops or your head stops, your brain wants to keep
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moving and it hits the inside of your skull and
that's what causes the concussion. He explains it much better.
His name is Brian Sutter or s U. T t
e r e Er medical doctor. And listen to him
explain what happened to Tula here last night in the
Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Now, what's happening in the brain as this hit occurs?
Right all of to his momentum is carrying him forward
into the Bills player. As he makes contact, there's this sudden,
abrupt stop where right there his brain wants to continue moving.
The brain still wants to continue moving forward, but you've
hit this rigid object and so the helmet, the skull stops,
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the brain continues to move, and all of that energy
gets imparted into the actual cells within the brain. You
then get this rotational component. And what happens to actually
cause the cussion, to cause the brain injury is the
whole sequence of things. There's actual rotational sheer forces that
can damage, that can tear the neurons. You get this
widespread sort of brief activation and then release of neurotransmitters
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as all that energy is being transferred into the skull.
Thinking of like that brain, you know, bouncing back and
forth within the skull. The combined component here of that
rotational twist can put additional stress on the brain stem,
which we theorize might be part of how and why
we see those external posturing responses because a lot of
those reflexes are centered within the brainstem. One of the
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first things we can observe them with the posturing is
we see his right lower extremity. The right leg is
planar flex, that foot is pointed downward, the ankles pointed downward,
along with a little bit of this inversion. That's not
what happens when you're just completely limp and unconscious. That's
going to be from muscle activation again centering within the
brain going down and affecting that right lower leg. And
(02:57):
now from this angle we can see not only do
you get that initial axiol lode into the head, but
then as he falls, his head is going to smack
against the turf, which is going to cause another insult
to the brain. It might have been part of why
we saw that posturing sort of response. So as we
keep playing through here, initially we're going to see his
body again, that right lower leg, we see how it's
(03:18):
tensed up. We see that ankle pointed downward. We're going
to start to see the right hand go into that
awkward flexed position with his hands being rigid, similar to
what we saw happened last year.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Oh man, that is just very difficult to watch.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And then as he's trying to kind of roll over again,
we see that rigid firing of the hands. The arms
are coming up towards the head in that sort of
protective response. And then as he continues to try to
get up here we even see some changes in the
left hand. As he's working to start a regain conscious
push himself up, we see how that left hand is
awkwardly extended backwards.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, it looks like his left hand.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
If you can extend your left hand or right hand
all the way back, you know, as far as you're is,
your risk will allow it. That's the way he was
getting up, and so obviously he lost control of his body,
his hands, his feet, his legs, his arms. And a
lot of people say that he'll probably be back. He
might be out for six to eight weeks, maybe ten weeks,
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and he'll probably be back. But man, oh man, what
happens on the fifth concussion? The fifth concussion, and god forbid,
he gets hit and he gets paralyzed. Man, oh man,
I think that I think he's got to quit. I
think he's got to hang him up. You know, he's again.
He just signed two hundred and twelve million dollar deal.
(04:37):
One hundred and sixty seven million of it is guaranteed, guaranteed.
If he never played again, he'd have one hundred and
sixty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That's winning the lottery.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Even if his agent takes out ten percent, manager takes
out ten percent, taxes takeout fifty percent, that's still generational
money that he could have for him and his kids,
his wife, his family for decades, if not the generations.
You know, and played right, that money should last you
for five, six, seven generations. And so why would he
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continue playing. He's going to get one hundred and sixty
seven million dollars if he doesn't play another another single
down one hundred and sixty seven Okay, so let's do
the calculation. One hundred and sixty seven million, and he's
signed for two hundred and twelve so he'd he'd be
leaving forty five million dollars on the field, on the table.
(05:29):
But if you get another concussion and then all of
a sudden, you don't know your kid's names or your
wife's name, or perhaps your own what is that other
forty five million dollars worth? You know a lot of
people who have money. The one thing they do towards
the end of their life with their money, they do
one thing. They all try to purchase better health. They
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try to have surgeries, they try to get medication, they
try to have therapy, maybe plastic surgery. They all do
things to make them feel younger and look younger. And
money just doesn't do it. When it comes to concussions.
You can throw all the money in the world at it.
It just doesn't happen. So if I were him, I'd quit.
I'd quit, hang it up, become a broadcaster, maybe a coach,
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and set an example for other kids that this isn't
the end. You know, you don't have to get back
in there. He's made enough money. I would make the
big announcement and soon that it's not worth it. He's
going to raise his family, enjoy the money, enjoy the
time on the beach. I know these guys are completely
consumed by by competition and they need to get out there.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
But that's too radical to have four.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Concussions Like that man, he's close, he's close to not
knowing anything nobody.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
We've been getting a lot of requests for that song,
the Donald Trump eating Dogs eating Cats song. It's funny,
it's good and I again, I can't tell who wrote it,
whether it's a Republican, a Democrat, an independent. I can
just tell it's a male and somebody has some talent.
It's really good. It's funny as hell. You want to
(07:17):
hear it again?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You got it in Springfield.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
They're eating the pens of.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
The people that live there. They're eating the dogs, they're
eating the cats.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
They're eating the pens of the people that live there.
People love Springfield.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Please don't eat my cats.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 8 (07:50):
Eat something else?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
People love Springfield. Please don't eat my dog. Ki's a cat,
a couple other things to eat.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
They're eating the dogs, you're eating the cats, salmon man.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
They're eating the pens of the people.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
That live They're eating the dogs.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
They're getting the cat.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Salmon man.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
They're eating the pence of the people.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
That live They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats,
(08:44):
they're eating the dogs.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Swallo, they're eating the cats. Salmon man. They're eating the
pens of the people that they're eating the dogs. Swallo,
you're getting the cats salmon man. There. It depends on
the people that.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
What a song that's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It reminds me of the song that was written about
the UCLA. There was a woman named Alexandra Wallace, and
she put out on social media when I first started
here at KFI, so it had to be two thousand
and eleven or so, but she put this out on
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social media.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It's not a thought she had. It's not a.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Thought that she spread around with her other friends that
she thought would be acceptor or it's you know, this
acceptable to this kind of language. She put it out
there on social media for everybody to watch and listen to.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You remember what she said. She said about Asians in
the library.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Hi, in America, we did not talk on our cellphones
in the library, where every five minutes I will be okay,
not five minutes, say like fifteen minutes, I'll be like
deep into my studying, into my political science theories and
arguments and all that stuff, getting it all down, like
typing away furiously blah, blah blah, and then all of
(10:11):
a sudden, when I'm about to reach an epiphany over
here from somewhere, oh Jim Jumbling long Team Tom.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She put that out on social media, and then a
guy wrote a song about it that is sensational. This guy,
his name is Jimmy Wong, wrote one of the funniest,
greatest songs ever. And the greatest way to get back
at somebody is to make fun of them.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Greetings, Alexandro Worris. I am not the most poitically correct person,
so please do not find offensive.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Take you.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Alexander Wallace. Damn girl, you're so feisty. I see they
should call you Alexander a great wall.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yes, and then don't pretend.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
And let's see watch we talk of my phone yesterday.
Oh sexy h charm win one. Baby, it's all just cold.
It's the way I tell the lady is it's telling
to get a fucking I hope one day you.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
Can meet my mother, brother, sister's, grandmother's, grandpa's and cousin.
Oh d they're really doing on those Friday nights showing
me how to cooking drinks, Because baby, I'll want let's
take you out and.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Blow your freaking mind.
Speaker 11 (11:40):
And underneath the pounds makeup and your baby blue wid.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I know there's a lot of.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Pain and her for such a big brain. Spend all
nine study and Polly sign a big of my phone
section show beams out of you really said that's great,
(12:13):
cheek show never read the head is Fittis song.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Still don't know what that is.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
That's a great line. I still don't know what that did.
Did he do a reference to your show? Did he
say ding dong? He did, but it wasn't a reference
to us. But we did have him on when when
he wrote this song. It's it's so great man. He's
had almost seven million views on this thing. And he
did all the parts himself. He did all the instruments,
he wrote it, he did the vocals, the handclaps, everything,
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he did the entire thing himself.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Very talented, dude, Alex.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
I just wanted to take my phone out and talk
dirty tale all dead at all. But I know you're
busy crab and all those big odds far occupants.
Speaker 11 (13:02):
You ain't that light, nice American girl your mama.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Raised it to be.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
So when you reach that epiphany, wait, are you freaking
kidding me? If you have an epiphany every single time
you study. That means you're probably doing something wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
But like it when you're wrong, it's great. And underneath
the pound of makeup and your baby blue Wie.
Speaker 11 (13:32):
School, I known there's a lot of pain and her
for such a big brain to spend a night studying
police a pick of my phone in session.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Chow beans out of you, I really want, she said,
I really don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Jack chows never.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Heads FITTI is song.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Still don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's such a great line. I still don't know what
that means. That is awesome. That's the greatest way to
get back at somebody. You just make fun of him,
and and and and that Donald Trump song is terrific.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It was written by his.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He's on social media on x formerly Twitter, And you
want to look this up at I E y E
slash o s l A s h O.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I at I E y e s l A s
h O.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And all of the money that's being raised by that
that song, the stream revenue is going to the Clark
County s p c A. And it's gonna help stray
animals in Springfield, Ohio. So good cause that guy's great you're.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from k f
I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's a new movement out there and it's going to
save you some money. It's called the buy Nothing movement
and truly taking off. The movement is helping millions of
people save money. And you know, so instead of going
out and buying a new TV, you're sort of, you know,
just hanging with the old one. Or there's people giving
(15:21):
away their TVs or you know, buying new ones. But
it's not buying anything new. And it's done for a
couple of reasons. One to save some money, but also
I'm trying to save the planet. And it was on
Good Morning America. I've heard this before, but now it's
getting national and international attention.
Speaker 13 (15:40):
With everyday prices still pretty high, the savvy shopper has
to get resourceful and what better price is there than
three and to free cycle and buy nothing groups that
have gained popularity online and in new apps. Ten years ago,
Liesel Clark and Rebecca Rockefeller founded the buy Nothing product.
Speaker 14 (16:00):
So when we started the very first group, I was
literally getting food and clothing that I could not afford. Otherwise,
people are okay, with reusing items. People are okay with
borrowing and lending and we don't have to go out
and buy new and we can rely on our neighbors.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That is interesting though, you know, instead of buying a
new tool for a project around the house, borrow one
from somebody. But if you borrow a tool from a guy,
make sure the cords wrapped properly and you clean it
before you give it back to them or else, that's
the last tool you borrow.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Including people like Madeline.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I ended up with this beautiful, basically brand new bike
that a woman a couple of blocks away wasn't using
and was willing to give away.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
For Jenna Orndorf, it was a lifesaver. After a fire,
I lost everything.
Speaker 15 (16:48):
My apartment was cond downed, I was displaced and basically
had to start over.
Speaker 13 (16:54):
She turned to the local buy nothing group on Facebook
and surprisingly found at plans.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah you know what, Also the guys who are into
the buy nothing movement, I saw this. I see it
all the time at Home Depot and Lows. And if
you go on a Sunday night the either Home DEEPO
or Lows and you sit in the parking lot for
ten minutes, you'll see this or you know, if you
go inside and just walk around, you'll see this. But
guys will come in at eight o'clock, you know, seven
(17:22):
eight nine o'clock at night on a typically on a Sunday,
and they're returning a pressure washer or a diamond saw,
you know, a tile cutting saw, a you know, some
kind of table saw, a you know, a chainsaw. All
these guys, you know, they they buy it on Saturday morning,
(17:44):
they do all their work with it, you know, retiling
a bathroom, and then that sucker comes back to Low's
or home depot on Sunday night. Sunday night, that's when
all that's when a guy walks into home depot. He's
covering in tile dust from his head to his toe.
There's tile dust everywhere. He could barely see. The guy
(18:06):
looks like a statue and he's returning a tile saw
that doesn't work. Evidently doesn't work, and he gets his
money back. Another place where I see this is what
is the hobby lobby. Hobby lobby. A lot of people
don't know this, but hobby lobby sells Christmas decorations. I
(18:27):
think people know that, and millions of people buy decorations
for Christmas But what people don't know is that hobby
Lobby has a very generous return policy, and they sat
around eighty five percent of Christmas decorations they were taken
home set up around the house. After Christmas, it all
(18:51):
comes back to hobby Lobby. Eighty five percent of it
comes back, not really in the spirit of the holiday.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And they got to tighten up the return policy or
this is going to happen year after year after year,
and there is a yuck factor there.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I understand that you take all these decorations home, you
put them all around your house, you invite people over,
people think you've made it, you had some money, your
house is beautifully decorated, and then all that crap goes
back to hobby Lobby after Christmas. So if you go
to hobby Lobby right after January first, January, second, third, fourth,
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all you'll see is nine hundred people in the return
line and there doesn't seem to be any shame at all,
which is wild to just return all that stuff and
no shame at all. You know that, I also don't
see any shame. Are people returning plants that have died.
You know, you buy a flower, you buy a tree
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at home depot, Low's costco wherever it is, and then
you ignore it for six months. It dies, and then
you bring it back and there doesn't seem to be
any shame at all that you had a huge hand
in killing that bush or that tree and you're taking
it back and getting all your money back. I saw
this at home depot in Glendale. The two of the home depots.
(20:18):
I got a one Burbank and one Glendale. I love
both of them. I was at one last night, but
I saw this about two years ago at the home
depot in Glendale. The guy comes in with a water heater,
this big, you know, hundred gallon tank water heater, and
he wants to return he wants to get his money
back or exchanger for a new one. And on every
water heater there they have the date that it was
(20:40):
built on the little metal tag there at the bottom.
It'll tell you, you know, October nineteen eighty five whatever.
So the woman at home depots looks at it and
she said, sir, this water heater you're returning is twelve
years old. And the guy said, he said, yeah, I know,
(21:01):
but it just doesn't work as well anymore. And she said, well,
but that's not really how we operate here.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean we don't.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, once you buy a water heater, it's not lifelong,
you know, free water heaters. Once it craps out after
twelve years, you got to buy a new one. And
I didn't know the outcome of what that return was.
I didn't want to stick around. I thought that would
get pretty hairy between the two of them. But man,
how about the balls on these guys returning stuff a
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water heater that's twelve years old, trying to get the
money back twelve years and no shame, none whatsoever. That
takes some personality, some personality. Steph flush reminded me of this.
I saw a commercial the other day. It's the Wendy's
breakfast burrito. Have you seen this, Stephoush, I sure have. Yeah,
(21:53):
the sausage, potato and eggs. Yep, I got it without eggs,
just the sausage of potatoes, little salce on that.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And I want to go back for the second. It's unbelievable.
That's on my list tomorrow for sure. Is that new there? Yeah?
That's new?
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Is they've had like breakfast sandwiches, but you know all that,
but yeah, it's terrific.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The sausage is done perfectly, it's like overdone a little,
which is the way I like it.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You know. And the potatoes are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And again, I think the only fast food place that
still serves a baked potato. I don't know of any
other place that has the baked potato. And the best
chili in fast in the fast food business by far,
by far, is that chili at Wendy's. Oh and we're
doing a live remote there in October or November, right
(22:41):
before you know, our big charity event at Catarina's Club,
We're scheduled to do a live remote at a Wendy's,
So we'll tell you more about that. You can come down,
enjoy your baked potato, your breakfast burrito, maybe a cup
of chili, maybe be cold by then, where it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
What's one hundred and fifteen out not a good data
of chili.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I was watching something on my phone.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I couldn't figure out how to shut it off, and
so the volume was going to be too loud for
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was looking at a video that a listener sent
me and.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Sorry, sorry, once in a while, you know, you just
got to apologize and take it to shorts.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
California fire fires, the wildfires are they getting worse?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It seems like it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The Bridge fire which was off the two ten just
north of Claremont near Mount Wilson. That fire last week
was reported on Saturday at two thousand acres, Saturday night
at twenty two hundred acres, then Sunday was up to
twenty three hundred. Sunday night it was up around three
three thousand acres. It just seemed to be growing by five, six,
(23:51):
seven hundred acres every time they reported it. And then
I think it was on Tuesday that we were right
before we left, Crozer said, hey, that is no longer
at forty four hundred acres. I said, oh, what is
it now forty five hundred and Crozier said no, it
said thirty seven thousand acres. I said, what, how could
that be? How could a fire grow that quickly? And
(24:13):
it did. It exploded, exploded over the mountains right into
right wood. And I've never seen a fire explode like
that ever. And I've been around for a long time.
You seen a lot of fires in the San Fernando Valley,
and I've never seen one explode like that, So I
think they are getting worse.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Well, it may seem like it's getting worse and worse,
and in some ways it actually is. We took a
look at the data going back several decades and here's
what we found. Year over year in California, the overall
trend since nineteen eighty seven is going up. In twenty
twenties when we saw the highest four point three million
acres burned in California, and then way back up this
(24:51):
year so far nine hundred and six thousand acres burned
across the state. The FED started tracking wildfires nationally in
nineteen eighty three, and again year we have seen a
slow but steady increase. In fact, since two thousand and
four to the present, we have had the largest amount
of acres burned across the entire country. We average about
(25:12):
seventy thousand acres seventy thousand fires, that is across the
entire country. The ten worst have all happened there in
two thousand and four to twenty twenty. In twenty twenty,
more than ten million acres burned across the entire country
last year.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ten million acres of trees that we could have used
to you know, build homes or you know, buildings or
whatever firewood turned into pencils, furniture, whatever you use wood for, paper,
and ten million acres are gone.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
And there's a dramatic cost in dollars in cents.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Before two thousand, federal firefighting always costs under a billion dollars.
After two thousand, it surpassed a billion. By twenty ten,
it passed two billion dollars and peaked at nearly four
billion dollars in twenty twenty one, and.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Four billion dollars in one year to fight these fires.
Of course, those are just the federal costs.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Our local agencies spends serious money fighting these fires as well.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, and you know why we got to keep paying
to fight these fires because of idiots, because of people
who go out there and start these fires on purpose
arsonis because they're losers. Here's the guy who they think
started the Line fire. Allegedly, this is.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
Where the Line fire was started in Highland a week ago. Today,
authority saying the suspect actually tried three times to set
fires the first time was in a neighborhood about a
mile away from here.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
The second time was.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Wow, this guy is not even good at starting fires
in triple digit heat.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
He had three shots at it.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
Here you can see where the fire started, but it
didn't really go anywhere. The third time, however, right there,
that's where the fire took off. Now, seven days and
thirty seven thousand acres later, charges have been filed. He's
the man accused of intentionally starting the line fire, thirty
four year old Justin Houlstenberg of Norco. How about that guy,
Justin Houlstenberg of Norkov, Norco.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
NORCO, which by other way stands for North Corona, but
not a lot of people know that NORKO stands for
North Corona.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Justin Haulstenberg of Norco now facing several charges, not only
for aggravated arson, which carries a sentence of ten years
to life in prison, but for the possession of incendiary
devices as well as additional charges related to injuries to
a firefighter and the destruction of this home in Running Spring.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, he's gonna hit with He's gonna be hit with
a lot of financial charges because he's gonna have to
pay I don't know how he's gonna do it. He's
gonna be in prison, so he's not gonna make a
lot of money if he's guilty, if he's done this,
and again he hasn't been convicted of anything. But if
he did do this, then he's gonna have to pay
everybody back, including the state, the county, the city, and
and and to fight these fires, which is going to
(28:02):
be millions, tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
It's a head scratcher. There's no value to be had
out of our syncrome.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's right, it really is. It's an unbelievable crime. There's
no gain, no monetary gain. You can't retire on it.
You're not gonna make any money. You're not going to
buy a house with the you know, the profits from
stealing something.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's it's odd.
Speaker 15 (28:21):
Unless there's some unbelievably particular fetish about watching other people's
homes burn down or people get injured.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
And so that's why this is particularly galling.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
Authorities say they cracked the case when automatic license plate
readers picked up the same vehicle in the area of
all three fire starts.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh how about that the license plate readers.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They're out there, they're everywhere, and that's public information. And
so the ACLU, I think, has tried to stop that
in the past, and the Supreme Court said, no, your
license on your car is in public view and it's
not protected. And so there's there's a license plate readers everywhere.
If you drive to Las Vegas, let's say, or you
drive the Phoenix. Let's say you drive to Phoenix, your
(29:07):
license plate is read probably twenty to thirty times on
your way to Arizona. And that's how they bust people
trafficking large amounts of drugs. They see the same car
going back and forth, back and forth, and they put
all that information together in a database and they can
track you down. So it's very hard to commit those
(29:28):
crimes anymore, these areson crimes, especially if you're doing it
your own car and you have your cell phone with you,
because they could track down the license plate to your
car and your cell phone and nail you.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And that's exactly what they did here.
Speaker 15 (29:41):
Evidently the case when automatic license plate readers picked up
the same vehicle in the area of all three fire starts.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
How about that the same vehicle was seen was spotted
by these cameras at the bridge fire, the line fire,
and maybe the airport fire. So maybe the airport fire
wasn't started by the county moving boulders in the way
so people can't use their off road vehicles to cruise
up in the mountains. That's possible, and if that's true,
(30:10):
that's going to save Orange County a ton of money.
If they're not responsible for that fire. If it turns
out this crazy cat did it, that's going to save
the county law of Orange County a ton of money.
Speaker 15 (30:23):
The same vehicle in the area of all three fire starts.
They say that, along with tips from the public and
good old fashioned detective work, led them to Halstenberg.
Speaker 16 (30:33):
As technology gets better, as our citizenry that obviously lives
here become more and more aware of what's going on,
those are the things that really contributed to the success
of this case.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You know, I guarantee you that this guy you know
who evidently allegedly started this fire, I guarantee you that,
if he did stardom that on his way back from
these fires, he was listening to KFI.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
On his radio.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I guarantee that because this is the station that broadcasts
all the information and these pyromaniacs, these are arsonists. What
they love is people talking about their mischief. And so
he's listening to either news radio or he's listening to
KFI or watching TV news and couldn't get enough of it.
(31:21):
He knows that he started all these fires, and that's
evidently part of the sickness. It's unbelievable how many people
have lost everything just so this.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Guy can watch what he's done. It's unbelievable. It's unreal,
all right, Real Live on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
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