January 7, 2025 • 35 mins
Pacific Palisades Brush fire explodes to 1,262 Acres, Mandatory evacuations, multiple structures lost // no injuries reported. The Gulch Fire – 1 acre North of Santa Clarita, east of Castaic // Rick Dickert extreme weather conditions – worst is expected overnight // Capt. Erik Scott latest on 1262 acres burned, multiple homes lost and mandatory evac // David Howard, KFI Sales evacuating his home in Palisades
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI Am sixty and you're listening to The Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is the
Conway Show. Mark Thompson is here. Thank you buddy, Thank
you man. Another disaster, another unbelievable fire that's going on.
We uh, you know, four weeks ago we had the
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fire that started Camillo, burned homes in Ventura. Then we
had the Malibu fire. This one is burning just south
of there in Pacific Palisades, where a lot of wealthy
people live. And they don't live like in Malibu. You
can be three or four acres away from your neighbor's
home up in the hills. Not in the Palisades. You're
right on top of each other. This is an unbelievable disaster.
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I have friends who live up in the Highlands. I've
texted them, they're okay. I have a very good friend
of mine who lives in the Highlands. And two months ago,
two months ago to the day, his insurance company called
and said, we're canceling your fire and shurance canceling your
fire insurance. And he tried to get fire insurance with
eight other companies and nobody would nobody would would, would
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write the client would write the papers what he was called.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's what issue.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, the policy, yeah right, the policy policy. Yeah, the
reality of living in California is that it's horrible. Companies
are pulling away and if you can find insurance when
all states just to increase their rate by forty percent, yeah,
that was aproved.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
There was the only way they would stay in the state.
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So this is this fire is burning in the Palisades.
It started at the first report I heard was seventy
five acres, and it expands. It's now it's well over
twelve hundred acres burning in Pacific Palisades. For people who
live in southern California and don't know where this is,
it is. If you go to Santa Monica and drive north,
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that's Specific Palisades. If you're in Brentwood and you go
towards the ocean, that specific Palisades. Or if you're in
Malibu when you go south, that's Pacific Palisades. There are
a lot of actors, a lot of actresses. I imagine
there's a lot of people that were the Golden Globes
on Sunday live in Pacific Palisades. It's very expensive. I
don't think you can buy a home for under two
million dollars in Pacific Palisades. And there's firefighters from all
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over southern California. I saw it, firefighters from Redondo Beach,
and man, I don't know, I don't know what it is.
Maybe I've always been like this since I was a child.
But when I see Redondo Beach coming up to fight
a fire in Pacific Palisades, I get like goosebumps. I'm like,
here comes the right you know, Here comes the cavalry,
Here comes the Marines, Here comes the guys that have
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left their small town and coming to help us out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And that's the beauty of firefighters.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And the way it's seven right in southern California is
everybody's in this together.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It's right. It's great, it really is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And so everyone comes out of you know, there's look,
I think this should be criminal. I think what I'm
about to tell you should be criminal. I got a
couple of friends who live in the highlands. There's one way
in and one way out. You mean to tell me
you live in the hills with your kids, your wife,
your husband, your dogs, whatever you got going up there,
your significant other, your bed, part of whatever you got
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going on, and you got one way out of there.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
In a fire prone hills like like the.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Santa Monica Mountain Range, one way in and one way out,
that's got to be looked at.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
They have got to they have got to.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Put another exit or an entrance on the back side
of that going towards the four h five, or going
towards Tarzannah, Sherman Oaks or Incina. They've got to build
another road out of there, or you're going to have
hundreds of people potentially killed, if not in this fire,
in a future fire.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
There are a lot of parts of southern California, I mean,
close by the Palisades that are exactly the same. You know,
I came out of Kenter Canyon that area, which is
also the same thing. It's one way in, one way
out that Our road is two miles long, and we
lived at the top of it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And that's why I said, a coordinating.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We gotta we got to be out early, because you
don't want to be online behind all of you know,
the tesla's and the lexuses and everybody and everybody with
a sense of urgency right and decrepidly, so you could
become incinerated in your car.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But but but my point is that there are a
lot of areas like that, Tim. In bell Air, there
are a bunch of areas where the road is a
single road all the way up, and some of those
roads get very narrow at the top.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, I agree with you, but you're talking about in Brentwood,
maybe thirty or forty homes that live on a dead
end street. There are probably a thousand homes up in
the Highlands.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The Highlands is different. You're right about that, but it's
more than thirty or forty. But we could argue about
I take the point, which is that the Highlands is
super dense populated.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But at the top of this, the Highlands is a
city of itself, and there's one way in and one
way out, so everyone bails out. I have a friend
of mine I've known since seventh grade, and he was driving.
His family was in front of him by ten minutes.
He was driving ten minutes behind him. He had to
gather some stuff of the house and he got stuck
in traffic, had to get out of the car and
run down the street. So he runs down the street,
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meets his family. He's okay, his family's okay. But what
happened was everybody bailed on their cars. You know, these
are high end cars coming out of the islands. They
bailed on their cars. The fire department shows up. They
can't get trucks and engines and gear up there, so
they take a bulldozer and they push all these you know,
one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars cars out
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of the way to get trucks up there.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And my wife said, well, they should have left their
keys in the car and the firemen could have moved it.
I'm like, sweetie, they're not running a valet service. They
got to get these cars the hell out of the
way to get this equipment up there.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That was a really tough situation and a big story
for much of the day, is what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
W Yeah, the fire vehicles were blocked.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
There is a problem there because people don't just leave
their cars there. In some cases they were instructed, hey,
you know, get going, leave the car and go, and
so you end up with that clotting the route and
they come in with the dozers and they move them.
I mean, it's a I don't know what you do
in that situation. Tim, That's kind of what I'm talking about,
And you're talking about the same thing. When you only
have one way in, one way out. You know, when
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you leave your car there, it blocks that one way
in and then one way out.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And you're right, you gotta leave early.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And there are some streets up in Brentwood, up in
Studio City, Hollywood Hills where especially in the Hollywood Hills
off Laura Canyon, where the streets are so thin that
on high windays, you're not even allowed to park on
those streets, right because the fire department can't get up there.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's why they have those red flag watches and warnings.
Some people may say, why it's a red flag war.
I mean, well, there are certain parking restrictions that follow
those red flag warnings and watches.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And the worst news, Look, it's horrible in the highlands,
it's horrible in Pacific palid sites. But the worst news
I've heard all day long that this isn't even the
strongest winds coming.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, and they say that tomorrow morning and later tonight
will be some of the most intense winds.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They're talking seventy eighty They've had gusts up to ninety
miles an hour. A ninety mile and an hour gust
will knock you down.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh my god, yes, oh my god, you're end And
you cannot get the upper hand on a fire that's
being driven by that kind of wind.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's just impossible. Yeah, it absolutely is. There's got to
be something done. We can't go through this every three weeks.
The weather is chain changed, and we've and we've got
to We've got to change the way I think we live.
I think there has to be a lot more uh
separation between the shrubbery and the green and your house.
I think now it's one hundred yards. I think it
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should be, you know, forty miles. It should be much bigger.
And also I can't believe that they can't that somebody
in the last fifty eighty one hundred years. Look, we
have more technology in our phone than they did in
Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So there we can do this. This is simple math.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Put a big, huge pipe into that ocean, crank up
a generator and a pump, and literally you can put
that fire out in ten minutes if you had if
you had the equipment and the ok by the people
who always jump on that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, wait a minutle bit, But where would you put
the pipe?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You put it into the ocean, you bring it, you
get a wiggles tunnel out out.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Where's the other end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And it's and it's five to you know, it's five
feet wide. And you put a big blow round and
you blow all that water from the ocean onto those mountains,
and you could you could have it out in ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Sure, if you had to pipe out of those mountains.
What about the other places where the fires are happening?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You need more?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now what's going on right now? Your idea is just
about the pallisades. I could put this thing out. So
this is impossible. I've been watching the fire these helicopters
in the planes, they're dropping fase check and it's disintegrating
it before it hits the ground. The wind is so
water is taking it and none of it is hitting
the ground.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, the velocities are just too great right now. The
wind velocities are just too great, and it affects their
ability to fly. I mean, you know, you know, once
these wind gusts begin to exceed seventy eighty miles an hour,
you can't fly in that stuff, all.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, We just have this coming in as well as
we watch these homes burn. It is so said, there's
so beautiful homes up there in Pacific Palisades, and you
see these sheriffs going door to door knocking on these
you know, homes to see if there's any elderly people
there or kids. You know, they're you know, latch key
kids that are left behind. There's trash cans burning all
over the place. This guy with a fire, you know,
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the garden hose, trying to put it out. And then
this just in an acre fire, one acre fire north
of Santa Clarita, east of Cast Steak.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They're calling it the Gulch fire.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And if that takes off, lookout then you know, then
that will blow into and if that comes across the mountains,
that'll blow back into like Seami Valley or the north
end of the San Fernando Valley, and and that's gonna
be bad news as well if that takes off. Are
we got a ton of coverage, We've got a lot
to get to.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
This wind is horrible.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I've been living in the San Fernando Valley most of
my life, and I can't remember living in a house
that shakes, you know, our house shakes when these gusts
come up and it sounds like a truck just hit it.
And I can't remember. Maybe it's the angle of this wind.
Maybe it's this the steadiness of this wind. How you know,
how it's constantly, you know, beating your house up. But
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also mark the dust in the air and the dirt
in the air right now, I've never seen that before.
Usually when it's windy out, it's very clear out now
usually well Santa Ana event, it will clear. One of
the benefits is that you get great visibilities typically, but
now in this case, you have's a lot of particulate
matter that's just mended in the air.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You have smoke, sincety.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Is that sand though coming out of the desert?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I imagine so or and where it from, where it's coming,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We got to take a break here.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We're gonna be here seven o'clock tonight. Moe Kelly is
coming in at seven like he normally does. He's going
till midnight to cover the wind and the fires, and
then I'll be back at midnight till three am with
Petro's Papadankas from the Petros and Money Show. Wow, and
Mark Thompson will chime in well, and so we'll be
on from midnight till three am right here on KFI.
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So come on back after you take a nap and
set your clock. That should be interesting. We'll get and
get you all the information, all right, A man, I
believe that that Mark you should probably introduce.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You've worked with him, you discovered him.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He's a brilliant meteorologist. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I you know, we connected when he was just I
think a meteorology student and he went on to a
robust career that he continues to have.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
He's been an aviation forecaster.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He longtime Fox eleven forecast or produced the weather there
and also a good day la talent. I mean, okay guy,
and I'm only a quarter the way through. And so
then he went on Dick dickerd everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, thank you, thanks Mark, and that Tim. I wish
I was with you guys under different circumstances. This is
as you've been reporting the worst case scenario. And I
hate to say this that it's true, the peak of
this wind event is yet to come. What time will
that be rick anytime between ten o'clock tonight and ten
am tomorrow, that twelve hour window. If you want to
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narrow it down a little bit more, it would be
more from midnight to about six am.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I would say.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
The wind that started this afternoon late morning hours the
fire starting the house fades fire at ten thirty Pacific time.
Those winds that were blowing were more in the northerly direction.
They were not the classic Santa Ana direction coming out
of the northeast blowing towards the southwest. That shift, although gradual,
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is occurring right now and the full effects of the
Santanna winds will be felt overnight into tomorrow morning.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
And ate scenario.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Direction will those from midnight till six am? That's going
to be the brunt of it. Where will those winds
be coming from and where will they be going?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So when the pals Space fire started at ten thirty,
they were mostly coming out of the north, maybe a
slight shift to the northeast towards the south. These will
be more direct out of the northeast, meaning the wind
is coming from the northeast blowing towards the south the west.
It's only about a fifteen to twenty degree shift, but
it does matter. We have wind speed in excess of
forty fifty miles an hour. We've seen worst case scenario
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for all of southern California. We're hearing of yet another
fire in that we're coming off of two consecutive water
years in which we saw well above average rain, which
has been a rarity for southern California place. So you've
had two seasons with a bund of precipitation that has
allowed all of that growth on the Santa Monica Mountains
in that urban wildland interface right against those homes and
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the palisades up into the Santa Monica Mountains, and then
you've had months for all of that vegetation to dry out.
I was looking at the most recent precipitation data for
southern California. This is for Downtown La, the heart of
the city. Zero rain, no precipitation at all reported during
the months of June, July, August, September, and October. Typical
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for a Mediterranean climate where we are dried during this summer.
But all of that vegetation was able to dry out,
even though when the rainfall season should kick up just
fourteen one hundred seven inches Western drying game.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
When will the winds stop? When can we go back
to normal?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
When can we tell these people in the Palisades that
they that they've made it?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Not until late Thursday, in the early Friday the winds,
the offshore winds are still going to be blowing into Friday.
But again the strongest winds will likely occur over tonight
through tomorrow morning's high wind warning.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And by the way, the fire rick.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Why are we getting these winds like this now in January?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is it a low and a high that are in
a perfect position to blow us out of the water
here and.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Perfect dynamics set in play. And we do always get
strong stand and a wind events during the late autumn
all the way through the winter month, so that is
not unusual at all. In fact, during the December through
January periods we get situations like this like we have
in the past, where you have first that strong radiant,
that strong difference in the atmospheric pressure. Yes, high pressure
building inland over California is a great base. In Nevada
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and Utah, lower pressure Offera coast. Airflows from high to
low pressure stronger the difference than that atmosphereic pressure stronger
the winds will be. But we also have other contributing
dynamics in play. Upper level support, meaning there's very powerful
winds locked as well, and then the thermal support, the
cold air support. There's very cold air that's diving. It
is based and behind that fast moving weather system that
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actually bought parts of southern California rain and snow early
this morning. Those three elements coming into play creating these powerful,
damaging Santa Ana winds. That to do an environment essentially
that creates the firefighters a real hassle in battling these fires.
The air appts are even having troubles getting in Our
people are complaining. I said, they are the air ass
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that's are doing the best they can.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Rick, thanks for coming on. Appreciate you. We'd love to
check back with you.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sounds good, Thank you, An He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So, Rick Dickard, with the weather, these winds are going
to be from midnight tonight till six am is going
to be the worst. This is the worst to me,
you mean it's gonna be worse than this is unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Based on wind velocities, it's going to be something on
the area of twenty five to thirty percent worse.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And if you if you've been watching I don't know,
if you're watching the news right now, maybe you're not
listening to KFI. Good for you by Channel four has
just had some live footage of the Ocean.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Club I believe as well.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, they're on.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Mastros Mastros, and also there's a lifeguard tower on fire.
That's the last thing to burn, that's the last thing
between us and the ocean, the lifeguard towers, and there
was one on fire, which means the sparks and the
embers came from the mountains from the palace age flew over.
PCH found the lifeguard tier tower and burned it to
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the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
There's almost a brutal symbolism to that too.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You're right, Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I think I think the footage of that is probably
the most depressing thing I've seen, because you know that
if they can't hold PCH, then they're you know, they
have two hundred and fifty firefires Melle Fire Department. I
think that they need ten times more than that, but
they can't pull them from other areas because fires can
start in those areas, of course.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And as I say, there's nothing you can do to
beat back a wind driven blaze like this. Just they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Water.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You mentioned it, the choppers, they can't even the foscheck.
The water doesn't even reach the ground. And now with
wind velocities being what they are, they can't even fly oftentimes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And if you're wondering why we're not getting any footage
from helicopters news helicopters, it's not because of the wind.
We can back. I'm gonna tell you why. I could
do it now, but it's gonna take a little longer.
I'm gonna tell you why there's no news footage of
helicopters anywhere you see two, four, five, seven, nine eleven.
There's no footage from over these fires. It has nothing
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to do with the wind.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
We're gonna be I'll be on until seven o'clock. Mo
Kelly's coming in from seven. He's gonna stay on mid
night to cover these fires in the wind, and then
I'm coming back at midnight till three am with Petros
Papadagas from the Petros Money Show.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He's a local, I'm a local.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We'll give you the local feel of what's going on
midnight to three am to night on KFI, So set
your alarm for that. One of my favorite guests, a
guy named Captain Eric Scott with LA Fire Department, is
with us.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Captain A brutal day.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
These are probably these are probably the days that all
of you, and you and your fellow firefighters just have
nightmares about.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, these winds are about as tough as it gets. Yeah,
I'd say it's the worst win we've had since twenty eleven.
It makes firefighting very challenging.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I don't even remember that, you know, everyone keeps saying
the twenty eleven I don't even remember that them being
this strong, do you?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
You know I do?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
And also twenty seventeen was roll rough. We had a
lot of fires throughout Los Angeles, Sa Getty, Scurb, all
the tunas all around then. But these winds are very significant,
very strong, and they're different than the typical fall months
of Santa Anas, which are really more directional. We're getting
gusts in all different directions. You're seeing flames go one
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way and then all of a sudden switch and move
another way. So very challenging.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So I understand.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And the reason why we're not getting any footage from
helicopters over any of these fires is because President Biden's
in town and there's a thirty mile do not fly
a restrictive air zone, but you guys are an exception
to that.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You can fly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Do you have to ask permission of the Secret Service
to fly your helicopters?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
And no. I mean there are TFRs or temporary flight
restrictions whenever the potus and the presidentials are in town
to reduce aircraft in those areas, but emergency aircraft is different.
So we are definitely in close coordination with them and
the FAA and our fleet of helicopters had those discussions
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way prior to the fire and we were able to
fly them immediately. We had a small bell two O
five up over the fire really quick, providing helicopter coordination
and communication, and we brought in our Augusta water droppers
and we have fixed wing flying over my head right now.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Captain Eric Scott's with this LA Fire Department.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I heard today and I had never heard this before,
but if there are enough people up in the highlands
of Pacific Palisades using their garden hose that reduces pressure
in the fire hydrant.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Is that true?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
It can? You know, I don't know exactly how much.
I don't think it would be that significant, but you know,
you get a certain source and quantity of water and GPM,
and the more people that pull on that source, who
reduces GPM. But that wasn't necessarily a big concern of us.
The bigger concern is that we have life then to
save instead of just property. So when people don't heed
the warnings to evacuate and get out in time, we
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now take resources away from the fire fighting line to
stop the flame front and now have to perform rescues.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You go to a house and it doesn't have one
hundred feet or one hundred yards of clearance with brush
around that? Does that really piss off firefighters like it
does me?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
You know it does, and you feel bad for them
because you're often looking at a beautiful house that is undefendable.
We have to triage it, just like if you have
a mass casualty incident. We have all of these, you know,
bodies that are injured, You're going to determine what's most
severe and do the greatest good for the greatest amount
of people. Well, to some extent, it's like that in firefighting.
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We pull up and your assignment is to do structured
devents on this one street. You're going to survey all
those properties and you're going to see is it defendable
or not? And if in LA it's really strict. You
have to have two hundred feet of clearance around your home.
And it's for the I mean, look at how many
we have several that have burned here today. We don't
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have the quantity, but brush clearance absolutely gives us the
defensible space to do our job. And when a house
has proper brush clearance, we're going to put firefighter between
that wall of flame and between that house and we're
going to save it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know, I again, Captain Eric Scot's with this LA
Fire Department. You know, Captain, I've been saying this for
my whole life, thirty years on the radio though, and
there's been no movement at all. But when are we
going to stop with these palm trees to become Roman
candles and have sparks flying around for five hours? When
are we going to cut all these things down.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yeah, well, good luck with that. When you find out,
please let me know. Okay, there's you know, cypress trees
are really challenging too, and it's just part of the
challenges that we have. But you bring up a good point,
and I think it's this ember casts take out a
lot of homes, not necessarily the flame front, and we
saw that when the Woolvey fire burned through. I was
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on that for two weeks, and you'd go across normal communities,
not even backed up against brush houses looking fine and beautiful.
One burnt to the ground. Few more houses fine and beautiful,
and they're burning from the top down. So you have
to think, you know, if you're living anywhere near the brush,
imbertask can go a mile or two in front of
that flame? Can it get in my attics? Can it
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catch me at patio furniture on fire? And then we'll
spread to your house?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You guys have called other cities. Do other cities just
show up to help you out, like Redondo Beach, Santa
Barbara Burbank or do you or is there a specific
order list and you phone them and they come out
screaming to help you out.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, they definitely don't just show up to help. So
we have automatic aid agreements which are for neighboring counties
and fire departments. So Los Angeles City is right next
to La County, by Ventura County and Glendale, Pasadena, Santa Monica,
et cetera. Those are all separate fire departments. So if
we have neighboring departments where we have one big incident
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that touches those other neighbors, they're automatically going to come
and assist. That's the automatic aid. But it is very systematic.
It is coordinated through the incident commander. And then a
fire like this, now we're going beyond. We're getting you know,
cal Fire sending sources in so we have the help
from other outlying areas as needed.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know, I, Captain, I will let you get back.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I know you're very busy, but I'm watching a home
burn right now on Fox eleven News. It looks like
it was probably built in the nineteen thirties. This depresses
the hell out of me. I can't imagine what it
does to you and your fellow firefighters when you're standing
there watching that.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
It's extremely difficult. You know, we feel for those people
and we're here for the long tail, so you know,
evacuation and then it goes into repopulation and days and
weeks and months of that recovery aspect and not just
the initial action here to where we have those conversations
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with people and it is it is really difficult to
see that we can encourage people enough to know your
ready set go program. It is the most proven and
tried way to keep you and your family safe and
have that brush clearance.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
And one last question and then how I'll let you go.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But when it's a typical day where the President's not
in town and channel two, four, five, seven, nine eleven
all have different angles from above the fire, is that
is that a tool that you use You look at
the TV and you say we need this here and
this there.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
It can be. We also remember we have our helicopters up,
so we have like they're going to give us a
better situational awareness where they're extremely highly trained captains in
that aircraft and they're orchestrating where our helicopters need to
make the most strategic water drops based upon target hazards
and where they're picking up their water from. But there
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are a lot of other times We're fortunate in LA
to have helicopters overhead of a lot of incidents, and
we do capture news footage, but often that's more after
action report later on going Hey, how was that truck operation?
Could we have cleaned that up and been better?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I see, But I can't thank you enough for coming on,
Captain Eric Scott. We'd love to check back with you
as the as this wind event continues.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Yes, it would be our pleasure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh, you're the best, all right, Captain Eric Scott, LA
Fire Department. That guy's great. Yeah, he's exact together. Yeah,
he knows what's what's going on. All right, we're gonna
take a coruick break here. We have more of this fire.
We're just watching a home burn to the ground. Depressed
out of our minds watching this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And more on the winds, and just because people are
joining all the time. Ten, we'll just review for people
the window of most intense wind activity.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right and look at this on Channel four. That's the
lifeguard tower that's burning down. That's like the symbol of
this fire. Yeah, that they couldn't keep it all. They
couldn't keep it on the north side of pch it
jump pch and.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
A natural fire break is you're talking about a break,
I'm jumping.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And the lifeguard towers are something that we all as
kids have great memories of. You know, if you need anything,
you go to the tower. If there's some problem, you
go to the tower. Those guys and gowns are always
the most beautiful people in the world, willing to help
people out. And then to see that a symbol burn
is really Those lifeguard towers are a symbol of southern
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California and to see when burned to the ground is horrible.
Did you notice the shot that shot that they showed there,
It was completely dark around it. I had to look
outside and see if it was actually dark yet, because
it's like.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Both smoke, Yeah, night time behind. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
All right, We're going to continue here until seven o'clock.
Moe Kelly from seven to midnight, and then I'll be
coming back from midnight to three am. Neil Sevada from
three to five am. When Bill Handle starts. We're gonna
have this covered all night long.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on de Maya from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I Am six forty to Conway Show Mark Thompson's here.
We're following these fires, the biggest one obviously in Pacific Palisades.
It's a it's a major disaster. The wind is going
to pick up tonight between midnight and six am, according
to Rick Dickard, midnight to six am, but in certain
area it'll be ten pm tonight till ten am tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know, he was kind of narrowing it down for us,
but it could be a real long twelve hours of
real heavy wins.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So I'm gonna be coming in mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We'll go.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'll go to seven right now, Mark and I will
go to seven tonight another two hours and eight minutes
mo Kelly, from seven till midnight. I'm coming back at
midnight till three am with Petros Papadagis from the Petro's
Money Show.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
He's a local, a local feel.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And then Neil Sevadra at three am, and then of
course after that, Bill Handle all right. David Howard, one
of the Mother Word talented guys here in sales at
KFI and iHeartMedia. He lives out in that area and
he's with us. David, I hope you and your family
are safe.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Hey guy, it's good to hear from man. Good to
talk to you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Are you in the Highlands.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
No, I'm not in the Highlands, but I literally just
said it'll be my house about ten minutes ago because
the smoke it just was primarily moving north to east,
so it's going towards the ocean, and then the wind
shifted and in a matter of minutes it was pretty ugly,
pretty quick. So, I mean lived there since ninety three.
I've been through public five of days. This is the
worst one I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
And where are you? Are you in the Palisades? Are
you in the Palisades.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Right now? I evacuated. I went down pch thinking it
was going to be horrifying, and I think a lot
of people left earlier, so I got that out.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Where do you live? Do you live in the Palisades?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Yes? Okay, in right right above. I live in the
heart of the town, right above the village.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I see, Okay, and near Gelson's there.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah, pretty close, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That is a beautiful place, a beautiful city. It's like
small town America there. Everybody has done well for themselves.
There's a lot of great, beautiful families. There a lot
of kids, have six, seven, eight, nine friends who live
in that area, friends for life, and this is a
this is a major disaster for everybody that lives there.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yeah, it's been pretty sad since ten thirty this morning.
I have several friends that and everybody's checking on everybody,
but friends that have lost houses. I think the fire
department has a noble's great a job they're doing. They
just can't keep up with it because what happens is
the structure fire happens, and then they put it out,
and then ten minutes later the wind comes back and
it refuels it. So it's they're short. I mean, they
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have as many people that they can have up there
right now. And as I'm driving east on the ten
to get to the four or five, I've probably seen
fifty different colored fire trucks, which means they're getting all
the mutual aid from different parts of probably California, I'm guessing.
And I just heard it report and I don't know
if it's confirmed, but part of Pali High may have
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burned down. Oh my god, just as a lot of
bad stuff. So it's listen, you know, this is southern California,
and it's it's really, today's a bad day. It's just
sad to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And you know, the people live in that area are
used to solving problems when they come up. You know,
if your kid gets sick, you're take me the emergency room.
If you have a problem around the house, you call somebody.
You can throw money at the problem. People feel helpless
here because they can't do anything.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, Sam, it's you're right. As I was leaving my
person of the neighborhood and I saw four cars and
then like these cars don't look no. There's like young
dudes and like they had masks on. I'm like, okay,
what are they doing? And I think they're pretty getting
ready to already start looting. So fortunately the police and
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sheriff for guarding the neighborhood's pretty safely because no one's there,
it's people. It's empty now if people are gone, So
you know, just to watch this kind of tragedy happen
and people get displaced and lose their homes and into
others the palisades or the valley or out of you know,
out down wherever in California.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
It sucks.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
And and then for people to take advantage of it
is just just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, we we Mark Thompson's with us as well.
Mark went through it where his his house didn't burn
to the ground, but all the homes around it did.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, it was damaged by the fire, but yeah, the
entire neighborhood was burned. That was the Getty fire. Was
twenty six.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
My sister and Mark liberal close to each other, so
I know what that damage that fire did as well.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You know, we just had on We just had on
a captain with the fire Department, Eric Scott, and and
you know, and these guys will will tell you don't
use the garden hose, get your family, get your pets,
and just get out. But then you always hear five
six days after the fire, how these young kids in
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Malibu saved homes by going around with the garden hosts.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You never know what to do.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yeah, I mean it's true. And there were people. My
neighbors on both sides were watering down. But you know,
when the wind blows and the heath comes, that water
dissipates pretty quick. So you know, it's just a.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Do you take the chance or you get out of Yeah,
that's the point. David's so right about that though, Tim
you know. I mean when you have winds blowing like this,
you just you know, your garden hose water, it goes away,
it evaporates in seconds.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah, it's horrible when when the superscrippers are dropping, a
lot of that stuff's evaporating. I mean that's tons and
tons of water.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, so are you. But I've never you're out of
your home.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Yeah, I'm meeting I'm meeting my wife and uh we
were staying in some friend's house and everybody just come
out of the war. Work would worked off for you know,
a place to say. So I can't appreciate, you can't
thank everybody enough, and you know, I'm just wanted probably
many and hopefully tonight this thing dies down and tomorrow
we can get back to normal. But my understanding is.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's supposed to go.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Then the worst ones who have to come tonight.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And what's traffic like for people that want to get
the hell out of there?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
What's the pole? I mean, what's uh sin set like?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
It wasn't for me, it wasn't bad. I think people
left a lot earlier. I was probably the dumber ones
and stayed as long as I could. And then the
cut to the point where you couldn't breathe, so you
had to get out.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
How far is the fire from your house?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Probably above the ridge now when I left, probably quarter
to half a mile.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh my god, that's too false. Yeah, that's way too gol.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Buddy, God bless you and your family. I hope you're safe,
and please I'll text you. But I'm glad to hear
your voice. I'm glad your family's safe.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Man, You're thinking of you, guys.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Look forward to seeing you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
All right, thank you about it? Are there? Goes David Howard.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Howard one of the salespeople here with KFI we've done
for a long long time and just a real stand
up guy.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And you could hear it in his voice.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
He's rattled.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He said he's never seen it like this before, and
that's what everyone's saying. Captain Eric Scott said the same thing.
Hasn't seen anything like this in twenty since twenty eleven,
I have. I've been living in the San Fanano Valley
my entire life, or most of it, and I've not
seen the consistency of this of this wind like it
was today. And I can't believe that it's going to
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get worse. Tonight from ten eight ten pm to ten am.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, it seems almost inconsumable. Yeah, it's so bad right now,
it really is crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
All right, there's live photos that they're showing the fire.
You're not going to see any helicopter footage tonight because
the helicopters are grounded because there's a temporary flight restriction
and because the president's in town and so they honor that.
So you're not gonna see any helicopter footage, Is that right?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Tim?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I thought they get special dispensation where they don't have
to they have.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
To ask for it for the Secret Service. And I
guess that we know what. We'll call Tim.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Lynn and I'd like to know that. I mean, that
seems insane. If that's true, I think it.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Is one hundred percent true. All right, we're live on
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Conway Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Now
you can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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on demand on the iHeart Radio app.
It's KFI Am sixty and you're listening to The Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is the
Conway Show. Mark Thompson is here. Thank you buddy, Thank
you man. Another disaster, another unbelievable fire that's going on.
We uh, you know, four weeks ago we had the
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fire that started Camillo, burned homes in Ventura. Then we
had the Malibu fire. This one is burning just south
of there in Pacific Palisades, where a lot of wealthy
people live. And they don't live like in Malibu. You
can be three or four acres away from your neighbor's
home up in the hills. Not in the Palisades. You're
right on top of each other. This is an unbelievable disaster.
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I have friends who live up in the Highlands. I've
texted them, they're okay. I have a very good friend
of mine who lives in the Highlands. And two months ago,
two months ago to the day, his insurance company called
and said, we're canceling your fire and shurance canceling your
fire insurance. And he tried to get fire insurance with
eight other companies and nobody would nobody would would, would
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write the client would write the papers what he was called.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's what issue.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, the policy, yeah right, the policy policy. Yeah, the
reality of living in California is that it's horrible. Companies
are pulling away and if you can find insurance when
all states just to increase their rate by forty percent, yeah,
that was aproved.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
There was the only way they would stay in the state.
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So this is this fire is burning in the Palisades.
It started at the first report I heard was seventy
five acres, and it expands. It's now it's well over
twelve hundred acres burning in Pacific Palisades. For people who
live in southern California and don't know where this is,
it is. If you go to Santa Monica and drive north,
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that's Specific Palisades. If you're in Brentwood and you go
towards the ocean, that specific Palisades. Or if you're in
Malibu when you go south, that's Pacific Palisades. There are
a lot of actors, a lot of actresses. I imagine
there's a lot of people that were the Golden Globes
on Sunday live in Pacific Palisades. It's very expensive. I
don't think you can buy a home for under two
million dollars in Pacific Palisades. And there's firefighters from all
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over southern California. I saw it, firefighters from Redondo Beach,
and man, I don't know, I don't know what it is.
Maybe I've always been like this since I was a child.
But when I see Redondo Beach coming up to fight
a fire in Pacific Palisades, I get like goosebumps. I'm like,
here comes the right you know, Here comes the cavalry,
Here comes the Marines, Here comes the guys that have
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left their small town and coming to help us out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And that's the beauty of firefighters.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And the way it's seven right in southern California is
everybody's in this together.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It's right. It's great, it really is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And so everyone comes out of you know, there's look,
I think this should be criminal. I think what I'm
about to tell you should be criminal. I got a
couple of friends who live in the highlands. There's one way
in and one way out. You mean to tell me
you live in the hills with your kids, your wife,
your husband, your dogs, whatever you got going up there,
your significant other, your bed, part of whatever you got
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going on, and you got one way out of there.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
In a fire prone hills like like the.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Santa Monica Mountain Range, one way in and one way out,
that's got to be looked at.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
They have got to they have got to.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Put another exit or an entrance on the back side
of that going towards the four h five, or going
towards Tarzannah, Sherman Oaks or Incina. They've got to build
another road out of there, or you're going to have
hundreds of people potentially killed, if not in this fire,
in a future fire.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
There are a lot of parts of southern California, I mean,
close by the Palisades that are exactly the same. You know,
I came out of Kenter Canyon that area, which is
also the same thing. It's one way in, one way
out that Our road is two miles long, and we
lived at the top of it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And that's why I said, a coordinating.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We gotta we got to be out early, because you
don't want to be online behind all of you know,
the tesla's and the lexuses and everybody and everybody with
a sense of urgency right and decrepidly, so you could
become incinerated in your car.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But but but my point is that there are a
lot of areas like that, Tim. In bell Air, there
are a bunch of areas where the road is a
single road all the way up, and some of those
roads get very narrow at the top.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, I agree with you, but you're talking about in Brentwood,
maybe thirty or forty homes that live on a dead
end street. There are probably a thousand homes up in
the Highlands.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The Highlands is different. You're right about that, but it's
more than thirty or forty. But we could argue about
I take the point, which is that the Highlands is
super dense populated.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But at the top of this, the Highlands is a
city of itself, and there's one way in and one
way out, so everyone bails out. I have a friend
of mine I've known since seventh grade, and he was driving.
His family was in front of him by ten minutes.
He was driving ten minutes behind him. He had to
gather some stuff of the house and he got stuck
in traffic, had to get out of the car and
run down the street. So he runs down the street,
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meets his family. He's okay, his family's okay. But what
happened was everybody bailed on their cars. You know, these
are high end cars coming out of the islands. They
bailed on their cars. The fire department shows up. They
can't get trucks and engines and gear up there, so
they take a bulldozer and they push all these you know,
one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars cars out
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of the way to get trucks up there.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And my wife said, well, they should have left their
keys in the car and the firemen could have moved it.
I'm like, sweetie, they're not running a valet service. They
got to get these cars the hell out of the
way to get this equipment up there.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That was a really tough situation and a big story
for much of the day, is what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
W Yeah, the fire vehicles were blocked.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
There is a problem there because people don't just leave
their cars there. In some cases they were instructed, hey,
you know, get going, leave the car and go, and
so you end up with that clotting the route and
they come in with the dozers and they move them.
I mean, it's a I don't know what you do
in that situation. Tim, That's kind of what I'm talking about,
And you're talking about the same thing. When you only
have one way in, one way out. You know, when
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you leave your car there, it blocks that one way
in and then one way out.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And you're right, you gotta leave early.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And there are some streets up in Brentwood, up in
Studio City, Hollywood Hills where especially in the Hollywood Hills
off Laura Canyon, where the streets are so thin that
on high windays, you're not even allowed to park on
those streets, right because the fire department can't get up there.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's why they have those red flag watches and warnings.
Some people may say, why it's a red flag war.
I mean, well, there are certain parking restrictions that follow
those red flag warnings and watches.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And the worst news, Look, it's horrible in the highlands,
it's horrible in Pacific palid sites. But the worst news
I've heard all day long that this isn't even the
strongest winds coming.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, and they say that tomorrow morning and later tonight
will be some of the most intense winds.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They're talking seventy eighty They've had gusts up to ninety
miles an hour. A ninety mile and an hour gust
will knock you down.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh my god, yes, oh my god, you're end And
you cannot get the upper hand on a fire that's
being driven by that kind of wind.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's just impossible. Yeah, it absolutely is. There's got to
be something done. We can't go through this every three weeks.
The weather is chain changed, and we've and we've got
to We've got to change the way I think we live.
I think there has to be a lot more uh
separation between the shrubbery and the green and your house.
I think now it's one hundred yards. I think it
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should be, you know, forty miles. It should be much bigger.
And also I can't believe that they can't that somebody
in the last fifty eighty one hundred years. Look, we
have more technology in our phone than they did in
Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So there we can do this. This is simple math.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Put a big, huge pipe into that ocean, crank up
a generator and a pump, and literally you can put
that fire out in ten minutes if you had if
you had the equipment and the ok by the people
who always jump on that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, wait a minutle bit, But where would you put
the pipe?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You put it into the ocean, you bring it, you
get a wiggles tunnel out out.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Where's the other end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And it's and it's five to you know, it's five
feet wide. And you put a big blow round and
you blow all that water from the ocean onto those mountains,
and you could you could have it out in ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Sure, if you had to pipe out of those mountains.
What about the other places where the fires are happening?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You need more?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now what's going on right now? Your idea is just
about the pallisades. I could put this thing out. So
this is impossible. I've been watching the fire these helicopters
in the planes, they're dropping fase check and it's disintegrating
it before it hits the ground. The wind is so
water is taking it and none of it is hitting
the ground.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, the velocities are just too great right now. The
wind velocities are just too great, and it affects their
ability to fly. I mean, you know, you know, once
these wind gusts begin to exceed seventy eighty miles an hour,
you can't fly in that stuff, all.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, We just have this coming in as well as
we watch these homes burn. It is so said, there's
so beautiful homes up there in Pacific Palisades, and you
see these sheriffs going door to door knocking on these
you know, homes to see if there's any elderly people
there or kids. You know, they're you know, latch key
kids that are left behind. There's trash cans burning all
over the place. This guy with a fire, you know,
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the garden hose, trying to put it out. And then
this just in an acre fire, one acre fire north
of Santa Clarita, east of Cast Steak.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They're calling it the Gulch fire.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And if that takes off, lookout then you know, then
that will blow into and if that comes across the mountains,
that'll blow back into like Seami Valley or the north
end of the San Fernando Valley, and and that's gonna
be bad news as well if that takes off. Are
we got a ton of coverage, We've got a lot
to get to.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
This wind is horrible.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I've been living in the San Fernando Valley most of
my life, and I can't remember living in a house
that shakes, you know, our house shakes when these gusts
come up and it sounds like a truck just hit it.
And I can't remember. Maybe it's the angle of this wind.
Maybe it's this the steadiness of this wind. How you know,
how it's constantly, you know, beating your house up. But
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also mark the dust in the air and the dirt
in the air right now, I've never seen that before.
Usually when it's windy out, it's very clear out now
usually well Santa Ana event, it will clear. One of
the benefits is that you get great visibilities typically, but
now in this case, you have's a lot of particulate
matter that's just mended in the air.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You have smoke, sincety.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Is that sand though coming out of the desert?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I imagine so or and where it from, where it's coming,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We got to take a break here.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We're gonna be here seven o'clock tonight. Moe Kelly is
coming in at seven like he normally does. He's going
till midnight to cover the wind and the fires, and
then I'll be back at midnight till three am with
Petro's Papadankas from the Petros and Money Show. Wow, and
Mark Thompson will chime in well, and so we'll be
on from midnight till three am right here on KFI.
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So come on back after you take a nap and
set your clock. That should be interesting. We'll get and
get you all the information, all right, A man, I
believe that that Mark you should probably introduce.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You've worked with him, you discovered him.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He's a brilliant meteorologist. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I you know, we connected when he was just I
think a meteorology student and he went on to a
robust career that he continues to have.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
He's been an aviation forecaster.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He longtime Fox eleven forecast or produced the weather there
and also a good day la talent. I mean, okay guy,
and I'm only a quarter the way through. And so
then he went on Dick dickerd everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, thank you, thanks Mark, and that Tim. I wish
I was with you guys under different circumstances. This is
as you've been reporting the worst case scenario. And I
hate to say this that it's true, the peak of
this wind event is yet to come. What time will
that be rick anytime between ten o'clock tonight and ten
am tomorrow, that twelve hour window. If you want to
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narrow it down a little bit more, it would be
more from midnight to about six am.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I would say.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
The wind that started this afternoon late morning hours the
fire starting the house fades fire at ten thirty Pacific time.
Those winds that were blowing were more in the northerly direction.
They were not the classic Santa Ana direction coming out
of the northeast blowing towards the southwest. That shift, although gradual,
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is occurring right now and the full effects of the
Santanna winds will be felt overnight into tomorrow morning.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
And ate scenario.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Direction will those from midnight till six am? That's going
to be the brunt of it. Where will those winds
be coming from and where will they be going?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So when the pals Space fire started at ten thirty,
they were mostly coming out of the north, maybe a
slight shift to the northeast towards the south. These will
be more direct out of the northeast, meaning the wind
is coming from the northeast blowing towards the south the west.
It's only about a fifteen to twenty degree shift, but
it does matter. We have wind speed in excess of
forty fifty miles an hour. We've seen worst case scenario
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for all of southern California. We're hearing of yet another
fire in that we're coming off of two consecutive water
years in which we saw well above average rain, which
has been a rarity for southern California place. So you've
had two seasons with a bund of precipitation that has
allowed all of that growth on the Santa Monica Mountains
in that urban wildland interface right against those homes and
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the palisades up into the Santa Monica Mountains, and then
you've had months for all of that vegetation to dry out.
I was looking at the most recent precipitation data for
southern California. This is for Downtown La, the heart of
the city. Zero rain, no precipitation at all reported during
the months of June, July, August, September, and October. Typical
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for a Mediterranean climate where we are dried during this summer.
But all of that vegetation was able to dry out,
even though when the rainfall season should kick up just
fourteen one hundred seven inches Western drying game.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
When will the winds stop? When can we go back
to normal?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
When can we tell these people in the Palisades that
they that they've made it?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Not until late Thursday, in the early Friday the winds,
the offshore winds are still going to be blowing into Friday.
But again the strongest winds will likely occur over tonight
through tomorrow morning's high wind warning.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And by the way, the fire rick.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Why are we getting these winds like this now in January?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is it a low and a high that are in
a perfect position to blow us out of the water
here and.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Perfect dynamics set in play. And we do always get
strong stand and a wind events during the late autumn
all the way through the winter month, so that is
not unusual at all. In fact, during the December through
January periods we get situations like this like we have
in the past, where you have first that strong radiant,
that strong difference in the atmospheric pressure. Yes, high pressure
building inland over California is a great base. In Nevada
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and Utah, lower pressure Offera coast. Airflows from high to
low pressure stronger the difference than that atmosphereic pressure stronger
the winds will be. But we also have other contributing
dynamics in play. Upper level support, meaning there's very powerful
winds locked as well, and then the thermal support, the
cold air support. There's very cold air that's diving. It
is based and behind that fast moving weather system that
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actually bought parts of southern California rain and snow early
this morning. Those three elements coming into play creating these powerful,
damaging Santa Ana winds. That to do an environment essentially
that creates the firefighters a real hassle in battling these fires.
The air appts are even having troubles getting in Our
people are complaining. I said, they are the air ass
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that's are doing the best they can.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Rick, thanks for coming on. Appreciate you. We'd love to
check back with you.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sounds good, Thank you, An He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So, Rick Dickard, with the weather, these winds are going
to be from midnight tonight till six am is going
to be the worst. This is the worst to me,
you mean it's gonna be worse than this is unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Based on wind velocities, it's going to be something on
the area of twenty five to thirty percent worse.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And if you if you've been watching I don't know,
if you're watching the news right now, maybe you're not
listening to KFI. Good for you by Channel four has
just had some live footage of the Ocean.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Club I believe as well.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, they're on.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Mastros Mastros, and also there's a lifeguard tower on fire.
That's the last thing to burn, that's the last thing
between us and the ocean, the lifeguard towers, and there
was one on fire, which means the sparks and the
embers came from the mountains from the palace age flew over.
PCH found the lifeguard tier tower and burned it to
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the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
There's almost a brutal symbolism to that too.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You're right, Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I think I think the footage of that is probably
the most depressing thing I've seen, because you know that
if they can't hold PCH, then they're you know, they
have two hundred and fifty firefires Melle Fire Department. I
think that they need ten times more than that, but
they can't pull them from other areas because fires can
start in those areas, of course.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And as I say, there's nothing you can do to
beat back a wind driven blaze like this. Just they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Water.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You mentioned it, the choppers, they can't even the foscheck.
The water doesn't even reach the ground. And now with
wind velocities being what they are, they can't even fly oftentimes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And if you're wondering why we're not getting any footage
from helicopters news helicopters, it's not because of the wind.
We can back. I'm gonna tell you why. I could
do it now, but it's gonna take a little longer.
I'm gonna tell you why there's no news footage of
helicopters anywhere you see two, four, five, seven, nine eleven.
There's no footage from over these fires. It has nothing
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to do with the wind.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
We're gonna be I'll be on until seven o'clock. Mo
Kelly's coming in from seven. He's gonna stay on mid
night to cover these fires in the wind, and then
I'm coming back at midnight till three am with Petros
Papadagas from the Petros Money Show.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He's a local, I'm a local.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We'll give you the local feel of what's going on
midnight to three am to night on KFI, So set
your alarm for that. One of my favorite guests, a
guy named Captain Eric Scott with LA Fire Department, is
with us.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Captain A brutal day.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
These are probably these are probably the days that all
of you, and you and your fellow firefighters just have
nightmares about.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, these winds are about as tough as it gets. Yeah,
I'd say it's the worst win we've had since twenty eleven.
It makes firefighting very challenging.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I don't even remember that, you know, everyone keeps saying
the twenty eleven I don't even remember that them being
this strong, do you?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
You know I do?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
And also twenty seventeen was roll rough. We had a
lot of fires throughout Los Angeles, Sa Getty, Scurb, all
the tunas all around then. But these winds are very significant,
very strong, and they're different than the typical fall months
of Santa Anas, which are really more directional. We're getting
gusts in all different directions. You're seeing flames go one
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way and then all of a sudden switch and move
another way. So very challenging.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So I understand.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And the reason why we're not getting any footage from
helicopters over any of these fires is because President Biden's
in town and there's a thirty mile do not fly
a restrictive air zone, but you guys are an exception
to that.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You can fly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Do you have to ask permission of the Secret Service
to fly your helicopters?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
And no. I mean there are TFRs or temporary flight
restrictions whenever the potus and the presidentials are in town
to reduce aircraft in those areas, but emergency aircraft is different.
So we are definitely in close coordination with them and
the FAA and our fleet of helicopters had those discussions
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way prior to the fire and we were able to
fly them immediately. We had a small bell two O
five up over the fire really quick, providing helicopter coordination
and communication, and we brought in our Augusta water droppers
and we have fixed wing flying over my head right now.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Captain Eric Scott's with this LA Fire Department.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I heard today and I had never heard this before,
but if there are enough people up in the highlands
of Pacific Palisades using their garden hose that reduces pressure
in the fire hydrant.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Is that true?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
It can? You know, I don't know exactly how much.
I don't think it would be that significant, but you know,
you get a certain source and quantity of water and GPM,
and the more people that pull on that source, who
reduces GPM. But that wasn't necessarily a big concern of us.
The bigger concern is that we have life then to
save instead of just property. So when people don't heed
the warnings to evacuate and get out in time, we
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now take resources away from the fire fighting line to
stop the flame front and now have to perform rescues.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You go to a house and it doesn't have one
hundred feet or one hundred yards of clearance with brush
around that? Does that really piss off firefighters like it
does me?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
You know it does, and you feel bad for them
because you're often looking at a beautiful house that is undefendable.
We have to triage it, just like if you have
a mass casualty incident. We have all of these, you know,
bodies that are injured, You're going to determine what's most
severe and do the greatest good for the greatest amount
of people. Well, to some extent, it's like that in firefighting.
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We pull up and your assignment is to do structured
devents on this one street. You're going to survey all
those properties and you're going to see is it defendable
or not? And if in LA it's really strict. You
have to have two hundred feet of clearance around your home.
And it's for the I mean, look at how many
we have several that have burned here today. We don't
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have the quantity, but brush clearance absolutely gives us the
defensible space to do our job. And when a house
has proper brush clearance, we're going to put firefighter between
that wall of flame and between that house and we're
going to save it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know, I again, Captain Eric Scot's with this LA
Fire Department. You know, Captain, I've been saying this for
my whole life, thirty years on the radio though, and
there's been no movement at all. But when are we
going to stop with these palm trees to become Roman
candles and have sparks flying around for five hours? When
are we going to cut all these things down.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yeah, well, good luck with that. When you find out,
please let me know. Okay, there's you know, cypress trees
are really challenging too, and it's just part of the
challenges that we have. But you bring up a good point,
and I think it's this ember casts take out a
lot of homes, not necessarily the flame front, and we
saw that when the Woolvey fire burned through. I was
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on that for two weeks, and you'd go across normal communities,
not even backed up against brush houses looking fine and beautiful.
One burnt to the ground. Few more houses fine and beautiful,
and they're burning from the top down. So you have
to think, you know, if you're living anywhere near the brush,
imbertask can go a mile or two in front of
that flame? Can it get in my attics? Can it
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catch me at patio furniture on fire? And then we'll
spread to your house?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You guys have called other cities. Do other cities just
show up to help you out, like Redondo Beach, Santa
Barbara Burbank or do you or is there a specific
order list and you phone them and they come out
screaming to help you out.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, they definitely don't just show up to help. So
we have automatic aid agreements which are for neighboring counties
and fire departments. So Los Angeles City is right next
to La County, by Ventura County and Glendale, Pasadena, Santa Monica,
et cetera. Those are all separate fire departments. So if
we have neighboring departments where we have one big incident
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that touches those other neighbors, they're automatically going to come
and assist. That's the automatic aid. But it is very systematic.
It is coordinated through the incident commander. And then a
fire like this, now we're going beyond. We're getting you know,
cal Fire sending sources in so we have the help
from other outlying areas as needed.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know, I, Captain, I will let you get back.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I know you're very busy, but I'm watching a home
burn right now on Fox eleven News. It looks like
it was probably built in the nineteen thirties. This depresses
the hell out of me. I can't imagine what it
does to you and your fellow firefighters when you're standing
there watching that.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
It's extremely difficult. You know, we feel for those people
and we're here for the long tail, so you know,
evacuation and then it goes into repopulation and days and
weeks and months of that recovery aspect and not just
the initial action here to where we have those conversations
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with people and it is it is really difficult to
see that we can encourage people enough to know your
ready set go program. It is the most proven and
tried way to keep you and your family safe and
have that brush clearance.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
And one last question and then how I'll let you go.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But when it's a typical day where the President's not
in town and channel two, four, five, seven, nine eleven
all have different angles from above the fire, is that
is that a tool that you use You look at
the TV and you say we need this here and
this there.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
It can be. We also remember we have our helicopters up,
so we have like they're going to give us a
better situational awareness where they're extremely highly trained captains in
that aircraft and they're orchestrating where our helicopters need to
make the most strategic water drops based upon target hazards
and where they're picking up their water from. But there
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are a lot of other times We're fortunate in LA
to have helicopters overhead of a lot of incidents, and
we do capture news footage, but often that's more after
action report later on going Hey, how was that truck operation?
Could we have cleaned that up and been better?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I see, But I can't thank you enough for coming on,
Captain Eric Scott. We'd love to check back with you
as the as this wind event continues.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Yes, it would be our pleasure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh, you're the best, all right, Captain Eric Scott, LA
Fire Department. That guy's great. Yeah, he's exact together. Yeah,
he knows what's what's going on. All right, we're gonna
take a coruick break here. We have more of this fire.
We're just watching a home burn to the ground. Depressed
out of our minds watching this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And more on the winds, and just because people are
joining all the time. Ten, we'll just review for people
the window of most intense wind activity.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right and look at this on Channel four. That's the
lifeguard tower that's burning down. That's like the symbol of
this fire. Yeah, that they couldn't keep it all. They
couldn't keep it on the north side of pch it
jump pch and.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
A natural fire break is you're talking about a break,
I'm jumping.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And the lifeguard towers are something that we all as
kids have great memories of. You know, if you need anything,
you go to the tower. If there's some problem, you
go to the tower. Those guys and gowns are always
the most beautiful people in the world, willing to help
people out. And then to see that a symbol burn
is really Those lifeguard towers are a symbol of southern
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California and to see when burned to the ground is horrible.
Did you notice the shot that shot that they showed there,
It was completely dark around it. I had to look
outside and see if it was actually dark yet, because
it's like.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Both smoke, Yeah, night time behind. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
All right, We're going to continue here until seven o'clock.
Moe Kelly from seven to midnight, and then I'll be
coming back from midnight to three am. Neil Sevada from
three to five am. When Bill Handle starts. We're gonna
have this covered all night long.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on de Maya from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I Am six forty to Conway Show Mark Thompson's here.
We're following these fires, the biggest one obviously in Pacific Palisades.
It's a it's a major disaster. The wind is going
to pick up tonight between midnight and six am, according
to Rick Dickard, midnight to six am, but in certain
area it'll be ten pm tonight till ten am tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know, he was kind of narrowing it down for us,
but it could be a real long twelve hours of
real heavy wins.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So I'm gonna be coming in mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We'll go.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'll go to seven right now, Mark and I will
go to seven tonight another two hours and eight minutes
mo Kelly, from seven till midnight. I'm coming back at
midnight till three am with Petros Papadagis from the Petro's
Money Show.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
He's a local, a local feel.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And then Neil Sevadra at three am, and then of
course after that, Bill Handle all right. David Howard, one
of the Mother Word talented guys here in sales at
KFI and iHeartMedia. He lives out in that area and
he's with us. David, I hope you and your family
are safe.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Hey guy, it's good to hear from man. Good to
talk to you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Are you in the Highlands.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
No, I'm not in the Highlands, but I literally just
said it'll be my house about ten minutes ago because
the smoke it just was primarily moving north to east,
so it's going towards the ocean, and then the wind
shifted and in a matter of minutes it was pretty ugly,
pretty quick. So, I mean lived there since ninety three.
I've been through public five of days. This is the
worst one I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
And where are you? Are you in the Palisades? Are
you in the Palisades.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Right now? I evacuated. I went down pch thinking it
was going to be horrifying, and I think a lot
of people left earlier, so I got that out.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Where do you live? Do you live in the Palisades?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Yes? Okay, in right right above. I live in the
heart of the town, right above the village.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I see, Okay, and near Gelson's there.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah, pretty close, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That is a beautiful place, a beautiful city. It's like
small town America there. Everybody has done well for themselves.
There's a lot of great, beautiful families. There a lot
of kids, have six, seven, eight, nine friends who live
in that area, friends for life, and this is a
this is a major disaster for everybody that lives there.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Yeah, it's been pretty sad since ten thirty this morning.
I have several friends that and everybody's checking on everybody,
but friends that have lost houses. I think the fire
department has a noble's great a job they're doing. They
just can't keep up with it because what happens is
the structure fire happens, and then they put it out,
and then ten minutes later the wind comes back and
it refuels it. So it's they're short. I mean, they
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have as many people that they can have up there
right now. And as I'm driving east on the ten
to get to the four or five, I've probably seen
fifty different colored fire trucks, which means they're getting all
the mutual aid from different parts of probably California, I'm guessing.
And I just heard it report and I don't know
if it's confirmed, but part of Pali High may have
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burned down. Oh my god, just as a lot of
bad stuff. So it's listen, you know, this is southern California,
and it's it's really, today's a bad day. It's just
sad to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And you know, the people live in that area are
used to solving problems when they come up. You know,
if your kid gets sick, you're take me the emergency room.
If you have a problem around the house, you call somebody.
You can throw money at the problem. People feel helpless
here because they can't do anything.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, Sam, it's you're right. As I was leaving my
person of the neighborhood and I saw four cars and
then like these cars don't look no. There's like young
dudes and like they had masks on. I'm like, okay,
what are they doing? And I think they're pretty getting
ready to already start looting. So fortunately the police and
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sheriff for guarding the neighborhood's pretty safely because no one's there,
it's people. It's empty now if people are gone, So
you know, just to watch this kind of tragedy happen
and people get displaced and lose their homes and into
others the palisades or the valley or out of you know,
out down wherever in California.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
It sucks.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
And and then for people to take advantage of it
is just just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, we we Mark Thompson's with us as well.
Mark went through it where his his house didn't burn
to the ground, but all the homes around it did.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, it was damaged by the fire, but yeah, the
entire neighborhood was burned. That was the Getty fire. Was
twenty six.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
My sister and Mark liberal close to each other, so
I know what that damage that fire did as well.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You know, we just had on We just had on
a captain with the fire Department, Eric Scott, and and
you know, and these guys will will tell you don't
use the garden hose, get your family, get your pets,
and just get out. But then you always hear five
six days after the fire, how these young kids in
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Malibu saved homes by going around with the garden hosts.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You never know what to do.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yeah, I mean it's true. And there were people. My
neighbors on both sides were watering down. But you know,
when the wind blows and the heath comes, that water
dissipates pretty quick. So you know, it's just a.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Do you take the chance or you get out of Yeah,
that's the point. David's so right about that though, Tim
you know. I mean when you have winds blowing like this,
you just you know, your garden hose water, it goes away,
it evaporates in seconds.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah, it's horrible when when the superscrippers are dropping, a
lot of that stuff's evaporating. I mean that's tons and
tons of water.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, so are you. But I've never you're out of
your home.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Yeah, I'm meeting I'm meeting my wife and uh we
were staying in some friend's house and everybody just come
out of the war. Work would worked off for you know,
a place to say. So I can't appreciate, you can't
thank everybody enough, and you know, I'm just wanted probably
many and hopefully tonight this thing dies down and tomorrow
we can get back to normal. But my understanding is.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's supposed to go.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Then the worst ones who have to come tonight.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And what's traffic like for people that want to get
the hell out of there?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
What's the pole? I mean, what's uh sin set like?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
It wasn't for me, it wasn't bad. I think people
left a lot earlier. I was probably the dumber ones
and stayed as long as I could. And then the
cut to the point where you couldn't breathe, so you
had to get out.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
How far is the fire from your house?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Probably above the ridge now when I left, probably quarter
to half a mile.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh my god, that's too false. Yeah, that's way too gol.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Buddy, God bless you and your family. I hope you're safe,
and please I'll text you. But I'm glad to hear
your voice. I'm glad your family's safe.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Man, You're thinking of you, guys.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Look forward to seeing you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
All right, thank you about it? Are there? Goes David Howard.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Howard one of the salespeople here with KFI we've done
for a long long time and just a real stand
up guy.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And you could hear it in his voice.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
He's rattled.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He said he's never seen it like this before, and
that's what everyone's saying. Captain Eric Scott said the same thing.
Hasn't seen anything like this in twenty since twenty eleven,
I have. I've been living in the San Fanano Valley
my entire life, or most of it, and I've not
seen the consistency of this of this wind like it
was today. And I can't believe that it's going to
(35:00):
get worse. Tonight from ten eight ten pm to ten am.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, it seems almost inconsumable. Yeah, it's so bad right now,
it really is crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
All right, there's live photos that they're showing the fire.
You're not going to see any helicopter footage tonight because
the helicopters are grounded because there's a temporary flight restriction
and because the president's in town and so they honor that.
So you're not gonna see any helicopter footage, Is that right?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Tim?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I thought they get special dispensation where they don't have
to they have.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
To ask for it for the Secret Service. And I
guess that we know what. We'll call Tim.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Lynn and I'd like to know that. I mean, that
seems insane. If that's true, I think it.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Is one hundred percent true. All right, we're live on
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Conway Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Now
you can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty four to seven pm Monday through Friday, and anytime
on demand on the iHeart Radio app.
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