January 7, 2025 • 31 mins
James Brotherton, NWS- L.A. Warning Coordination Meteorologist Los Angeles/ Oxnard winds increasing in the next hours up to 80 mph // Palisades Charter HS burning- LAUSD announcing some school closures tomorrow // 2,900 + acres, 10K Threatens 10K, LAFD ask off-duty firefighters to report // Small fires in Santa Clarita and Steve Kreeger on Altadena
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. All hands
on deck will be here till seven o'clock. Mo Kelly
takes over at seven, He'll go to midnight. I'll be
on from midnight to three am. Petros Papadagus will join
us from two to three am, and then Neil Savedra
(00:22):
will be on from three to five, Amy King from
five to six, Bill Handle, Garyan, Shannon, John colevelt this
show and it continues. We're gonna have all the latest
this unbelievable disaster in Pacific Palisades, one home after another
after another. We're watching on Chen eleven right now. There's
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a bush on fire. Who's a fence on fire, and
a garage is next, and there's no firefighters there. They
just don't have enough manpower to sit in front of
every one of these homes. And the worst wins are
about to happen in about two hours from now.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And we have James brother Is with us.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He's the with Noah and the National Weather Service covering
Los Angeles and Oxnard. He's a meteorologist. He was on
with us before Jays welcome back to KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How are you, sir, Hey doing okay?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Tim, I'm over here in the Los Angeles Emergency Operations
Center and we are watching the winds starting to pick
up across the Los Angeles base and now seeing some
gusts over fifty miles per hour in portions of the
Northern Inland Empire, in the San Gabriel Valley and San
Fernando Valley. So we'll start to see those winds continue
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to increase throughout the region. As you said, over the
next few hours. Win's peaking tonight around the midnight hour
with strongest gusts around eighty miles per hour. So we
are looking at the potential for some destruction from these
strong wind gusts coming out of this major stand and
a storm event. So I just want to make sure
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everybody's prepared and follow all local evacuation orders if you
do have any any of that come your way.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We could see eighty mile an hour winds at sea level.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The strongest wins will probably be above sea level, but
I couldn't rule out some gusts as strong as about
sixty miles per hour at sea level and about eighty
miles per hour in the hills about Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I mean, that's really an unprecedented wind event. When I
shun pressient and going back to what twenty eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Something like that, Yeah, this is it's been quite a
while since we've had this strong of a wind event,
definitely the strongest Santa Ana event so far of this season,
coupled with really historically extreme dryness across the region due
to the lack of rain.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So, James, you know again, I'm from the San Fernando Valle.
I live here my whole life, and I was, you know,
as a kid. You know, we're always protected if if
the Santa Ana winds were coming, you know, out of
the north and going towards the ocean. The people lived
in Chatsworth and Granada Hills, they were always sort of
protected by those mountains. But this is some kind of
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different wind event where the wind is coming down over
those mountains as quickly as it's going over the mountains.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's odd, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So in a in a more major Santa Ana event,
it does tend to affect much more of the area,
and that is what we're seeing, and that's due to
a couple of things. It's just the strength of the system.
But we also have what's called upper level wind support.
We have the upper parts of the atmosphere are supportive
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of pushing that air down towards the surface. So once
we have that in place, with that strong pressure gradient,
just the difference between the high and low pressure, then
we do it is pretty common to see it in
a more widespread but like you said, normally it's just
in those isolated areas. We have to have a major
event before we see the winds spreading across pretty much
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the whole region, like what we're seeing today.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And what about our friends, I know you cover La
and Oxnard. What's going on up in Oxnard? And when
can they expect the toughest winds?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
The winds up there in Ventura County are They're already
gusting around fifty sixty miles per hour in the Calabasas area. However,
it hasn't really reached the vent city of Ventura. But
we'll see the stronger winds after midnight up there, but
not quite as strong as what we're seeing in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh, they catch a little bit of a break.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, it shouldn't be quite as bad up there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, And when James. One last question. I know you're busy, man.
When can we go outside and not have any wind?
Is that Sunday? Is it Monday?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
The winds are gonna gradually decrease tomorrow, but we probably
will continue to have periods of gusty winds each night
and morning through Friday, and then this weekend it looks
like we'll finally see some relief from the from the
the sant Ana wins.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, well, I appreciate you coming on, James Brotherdan, thank
you so much. I really I know you're busy, man.
I appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a pleasure. Thank you so much for helping to
make sure everybody's prepared for this, for this damaging storm
that we're about to see.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Gonna be horrible, all right, the National Weather Service James Brotherdan,
thank you. We're going to continue here, and this is
going to be a wild night. This the winds that
we had today, I know a lot of people, including
myself Mark Thompson, thought this was crazy, but tonight it's
gonna be worse. And these embers that are flying around
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Pacific Palisades, they're going to be burning more homes. The
trees at Gelson's. They're protected by a lot of cement
around there, Yeah, a lot of it. They're in the Palisades. Yeah,
you've been to that Gelstons of course, and those trees
are on fire, and God forbid, you know if that Gelson's,
I don't know if there's another market out there. I'm
not that familiar with the Palisades, but I think that's
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the market that people go to out there.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I mean, the entire area of the Palisades town is
being thrown on its side as a result of this.
The evacuations, of course include everybody. So I mean, you know,
the shops, grocery stores, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're all empty.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
And power, as you suggested, has been cut off to
a lot of the area because of the because of
the devastation.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And the embers that are flying around there, and this
is only going to get worse at between eight o'clock
to night, so an hour and fifteenth hour and forty
five minutes until ten am is going to be ferocious.
The wins right now are are not even close to
what they're going to be at midnight tonight. And everybody
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we've had on so far, we've had Rick Dickers come on.
I know you're you were in the weather game for
a while. We had Captain Eric Scott come on, and
then we also had James Brotherton come on. They all
agree that around midnight tonight is when we're going to
see the second punch, and that is going to be brutal.
There's going to be a lot of devastation.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I mean, frankly, when you're coming on the air, maybe
the peak of the and it will extend, I mean
continue for hours a few hours after that. Again, if
you follow wind velocity, sure, but look it's no picnic
when the wind drops to thirty five forty miles an hour.
I mean we're talking about at the peak of the
wind velocities, you know, sixty to eighty miles an hour.
But you know, even at forty or thirty five, a
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fire that's driven by those kinds of wins, you cannot
get the upper hand on that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
All right, we're going to cover this all night long. Again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We'll have myself Mo Kelly, I'll be back at midnight then,
Neil Savedra, Amy King, Bill Handle, Garyan, Shannon, John Colebelt.
We are going to be on as long as there
is these winds, and as long as there is the
fire going on in Pacific Palisades, we will be covering
it wall to wall all night long right here on
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KFI AM six forty. You need to stay on KFI tonight.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
This is a major disaster that's going on in Los
Angeles right now. I know we're feeling winds throughout southern California,
all the way from Central California on the coast, all
the way to San Diego and Mexico. Everyone's feeling these wins.
But the people in Pacific Palisades are not only dealing
with the winds but a ferocious, unbelievable, fast moving fire
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going right through the heart of the town. And that
fire is up to twenty nine hundred acres twenty nine
hundred acres.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It seems like every hour it doubles.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Well, I mean, it's exploding inside. Besides because of the wind.
It's just as we were saying, there's just no way
to stop, right And what.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Does he look like tomorrow? You know, when the sun
comes up.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
After you've had hours and hours, is there any way
to stem this time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I don't know what's going to happen in this state.
We had the the OHI, not the OHI, the Ventura
fires and it started well, yeah, it started in seem
Valley and then went into parts of Oxnard and Ventura
and that destroyed a bunch of homes up there. Then
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we had the Malibu fire started in Malibu Canyon, lasted
a bunch of days, a lot of homes burned, and
then this fire as well. I don't know. I don't
know in the future if we're if any of us
are gonn to be able to get fire insurance if
you live in the hills.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Anymore, I think the answer is probably not no.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, But then what does that do to the economy.
I mean, if you can't sell your you know, eight
million dollar home to somebody else and they don't you know,
the economy is they rely on property taxes for a
lot of it. And so a property tax of an
eight million dollar home is probably fifty thousand dollars a
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year or more. No, well, it's eight one, it's eight
it's about sixty. It's about seventy thousand dollars a year.
And that's and that's and if you can't get anybody
to buy that home. You lose that tax revenue of
every single home that can't sell.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, I mean it's the economy beyond that.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean, the real estate economy is an important engine
of the economy. In California, we have some of the
most valuable real estate in the country.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And then what do we do it, Like with the
you know, the school, the charter school that's burning, Polly's
threatened out there, you know, high school out there, this,
you know, the Gelson's trees are on fire. I know,
I keep going back to that, but that strikes me
as something that's really unusual. You would think the trees
surrounded by you know, fifty sixty yards of pavement in
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every direction would be safe from these fires, and they're not.
They're all on fire. And so this whole landscape changes
tonight and into tomorrow, and it's going to be you know,
as Tim lind said, it's going to be you know,
five ten, maybe fifteen or twenty years, maybe a couple
decades until it gets back to normal. I remember the
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Brentwood Fire in the nineteen seventies where a ton of
homes burned in the Brentwood Fire, that's where I jumped.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
The four h five. Yeah, they call them bell Air fire. Yeah,
the bell Air fire. It was horrible. You see pictures
to everybody if you google it what Tim's talking about.
You can see celebrities like Jazhaga boring through the ashes
of the fire that consumed her home.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It was quite extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I have a feeling that there are a lot
of moms and dads who have young kids and they
live up on the highlands and they've had it with this.
The amount of energy, the amount of you know, of
just fear and sheer terror that this brings on doesn't
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equal the beautiful view anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Well, this is interesting because you know we live this.
Courtney wants to leave California for just this reason. You know,
we had our neighborhood burned, as you know, it burned
and we had to evacuate, and we faced a lot
of these decisions. We continue to face them. But I
always ask her, where do you want to move? Where
do you want to go? I mean you need.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Something like that, that condescending way. Actually I took something
off there. Well, I think it's even worse than that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Yeah, buttree, but you do need to move somewhere, and
California is an extraordinary place to live. This may be
an odd moment to, you know, make that argument, but
I just think there's a lot special about California.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, you never know again.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Mothers and dads with young kids who live up in
the Highlands and they're watching this fire and they don't
know if they're going to go home to their you know,
go to their home tomorrow, whether it's going to be
there or not. And what that does to kids. I
think it has a lifelong effect on children when your
home burns to the ground and you know, that's their
safe place, that's where, you know, where They've been told
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great news in their room. They've been told bad news
in their room. They've had Christmas or Hanika Kwans or
whatever they celebrate. They've had Thanksgivings, they have pictures all
over the house of they're family members. They've got dogs
and cats and friends and schoolmates, and they get into
you know, soccer or basketball or volleyball, whatever, and everything
is surrounded in that home. They have mendless meals and
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they're with family and friends. They've had Grandma and grandpa
over from back east, and everything is that home.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And when that home is gone.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think it has a tremendous lifelong effect on children.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know it does well.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
The other thing is you tell kids typically things that
sort of shelter them from having the kind of anxiety
that you're talking about. Right, you say, don't worry, we're
safe here, or don't worry.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Look, but you can't hide that sometimes I know exactly,
but you can.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
You say things like, hey, it's always possible that we'll
have to leave it. Right now, everything's fine, don't worry
you in that way, you try to allay any fears
they might have.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I think I you know, it's it's going to
be It's going to be tough for a lot of
people for a long time. There's gonna be a lot
of people who hold their emotions in. I'm the king
of that, by the way of you know, just holding
him in until I melt down. And you're going to
hold them in. You're gonna be brave for your wife,
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for your kids, for your has been and you're going
to feel this in a couple of months and it's
gonna knock you on your ass. But for now, you've
got to be strong for those kids. You've got to
tell these kids. Look, Mom is still here, Dad's still here,
the dog's still here, Grandma and Grandpa are still here.
We're all still alive. We can rebuild this. This is
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material crap. And you know, on the other hand, maybe
it is a good lesson for the kids, you know,
for the for the kids that that realize that there
are more important things than the iPhone or the you know,
their bed or their you know, their their dress or whatever.
And that's family. You know, everyone's still whether in a
hotel or or whether you're in your big home in
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the Palisades, you're still together as a family, you know,
and maybe it makes the family stronger. That's ponsible as well.
That's ponsible as well. All Right, we're going to be
here all night long. It's Conway Thompson till seven, seven o'clock,
Moe Kelly till midnight. I'm coming back at midnight when
we're stuff. The strongest wins nine to three am. I'll
be here then, Nil Sevedra, Amy King, Bill Handle, Gary
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and Shannon John Colvill.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So keep it here.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
We're keeping an eye on this fire and we're not
going to get any helicopter footage from the news stations
until early afternoon tomorrow. That's when President Biden takes off.
As long as President Biden's here, nobody can fly over
that fire because that fire is within the the flight
restriction zone.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
No news person can. Yeah, yeah, that's what I said.
You said nobody can, Buddy, I'm going to reach across
and stranger.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I thought I thought you'd enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But okay, God, you got to be so precise here
with Mark. But you've done it three times. Okay, I
correct the number of times. I'm not talking about helicopters
that are fighting fires. I'm talking about the news copters.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Okay, sorry about that. God, tomorrow is gonna be fun.
So you don't want me to come tonight at midnight,
then that's right? Okay, Yeah, okay, it's the Conway Show.
I'm your low. It worked finally, I knew I knew it.
How you get a kick it? I'm going to strangle you. Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
All right, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And we'll be here till seven o'clock and then Moe
Kelly comes in to take over coverage. This is on uh,
I think unprecedent. I can't remember last time this type
of wind was affecting southern California.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I know you said in twenty eleven. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know whether whether it was here, whether it's
two buzzed, or what happened in twenty eleven.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Well, the thing about just in general, just because there's
a weather guy for so long, there's a recency bias.
We just don't remember much of any seasons. That's why
you need to go back and actually look at the
charts and see. But I think that was the last time.
And also honestly it's corroborated by some of the people
who've talked to medi Rall, just like Rick dick Er,
et cetera, who say, yeah, that was last probably severe
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a wind event that would even hold, you know, any
kind of comparison to what we're going through now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Man, I don't remember that, and I was working here.
I started here in twenty ten, and I don't remember
that event.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Maybe I'm just a memory shot. You know, you can
drink your memory away, oh can yeh. The Palisades fire
is up to twenty nine hundred acres. It is a
tremendous disaster. There are a lot of people who are
have seen there are going to see their entire life
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burn up.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And I think a lot of people don't. Didn't take
like I'm one of them. I don't take it seriously
with the get your ready, set go bag, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I didn't take that serious. They still don't.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I have an emergency kit for earthquake, but I don't
have all my memories that I could take with me
and split do you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I actually have already loaded up the car. Oh wow,
you're ready to roll?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well we've been through it and oh oh yeah, we
just don't mess with it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's real. So you really have a car loaded with
ready to go, with clothes and with that, right, yeah,
all those stuff. That's good. Good for you, buddy.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No, I mean that's just again, it's it's forged of experience.
That's the only reason I've done it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Bellio gave me a phone number here. LA Fire Department
is asking all members to call and report immediately, Is
that right, Belli on.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
LA PD la FD, LA Fire.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Department availability, Report availability?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right? Report availability.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That is not a good sign when they're asking firefighters
to report availability.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Can I give out that phone numbers? That number one?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yes, No, it's been on all the channels. Okay, the
phone number if you're at the LA Fire Department, it's
two one three five seven six eight nine six two
two on three five, seven, six eight nine six too.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You would think there'd be a.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Way to get a hold of them, maybe a cell
phone or pager or something.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It thinks would be like you could send out a
blast too, or maybe this is the way they do it.
You know, they ask us to alastah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Watching the wind here, you can see it's picking up
in the Palisades and the ferocious wind is going to
be right around midnight. So whatever you have to do
between now and midnight to secure I know. Krozier Krozer,
you have a very high quality, very heavy furniture around
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your pool.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah. Half of it ended up in the pool this
morning when I got up. That's a chase lounge. It
weighs like thirty forty to fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, and I had to yank it out of the
pool this morning, along with a bunch of other stuff.
About good five six pieces of Pattia furniture ended up
in the pool today.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It wasn't the neighborhood kids that I know, No, it
was the wind.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I ever catch them rascals, Yeah, I just choke them out.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But it was the wind that did it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Uh yeah, that's heavy. I remember being at your house.
It's you know, you restrain your back, move in that crap.
Oh yeah, and then and then it's water logged. Oh no, yeah,
all right, I'm looking at pictures right now. Mark that
picture on Channel eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right now. It looks like hell yeah, no, it's a healscape.
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
All the homes are burned. There's one Oh no that
I was gonna say, there's one house that's not burning.
Then they put the camera over and now that house
is burning.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, burning from just behind.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But every one of those homes on that beautiful tree
lined street is on fire.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
And this Pallisades is one of the most beautiful neighborhoods
in all of America, in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, it's it's the most desirable place to live I
think in California. You know, it has better weather than
Brinn County or San Francisco. It has everything going for
it where it did. It has a great downtown area.
There's a lot of kids who really enjoy that area.
There's a lot of people that work in the entertainment
and they live in that area, a lot of music people.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
They just redid that entire that, Rick Caruso. Uh, it's
like a mini it's like a mall type thing. It's
an outdoor mall with the restaurants like Americans. Yeah, exactly
like that. And uh it's stunning. I mean everything in
the palace just has a is picture perfect, and tonight
it's all ablaze.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And somebody's looking at this right now. It's a two
story house sort of a colonial style, I guess, not
good with home styles.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And it's on fire. It's next to it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Look at it looks like a brand new house where
it's been modern, you know, updated, and it looks like
a modern home. And they're bringing the fire hose out
and they're going to try to save the house next
to it, but they can't save the house that's already
on fire. They're not even putting any water on it.
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Steve Kreeger is with us LA County. We're gonna take
a break the market to come back and talk to
Steve Krieger. He's La County retired fire captain and he's
gonna be on with this, I think tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
As well, so we'll talk to him.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What a night, What a night you're going to have.
You'll be back on the air at midnight.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's right, going back at midnight, and we'll be reporting
on the most ferocious winds. They're due to start in
an hour and ten minutes at eight pm. That's gonna
be the start of it, but the real brunt of
it is going to be midnight tonight.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But it's already blowing like crazy. You just look out
the lam you can see the street signs and trees,
and you know, it's all very right now, blustery.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's moving the lampposts and that's very hard to do.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, you're right, I mean, look at that, and it's
going to as I say, I mean, if these wind
velocities check out, yep, it'll be even more intense.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right, let's talk to us. Steve Kreegery.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He is a retired fire captain with La County or
Orange County Fire Department. I don't remember what it was.
I think it's Orange County, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, he's got what Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Part of my damn, I always all right, I messed.
I always get wrong on fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So we're talking about this fire in the Palisades, but
you've got news that there's something else going on.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
There's a charted out as ten acres now it's bigger
Eaton Canyon on the east end of Altadena and the
border of Pasadena. They got bullbrush response from Melle County
and Pasadena on it, and also Forest Service are doing
a lot of structure protection same area as that Kinneloa
fire back in nineteen ninety three that took out a
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whole bunch of homes. So they've got in structure protection
going on over there right now. And the coppers aren't
able to drop right now. They've got a copper overhead
monitoring it, but they're not able to drop. And I
didn't hear exactly why.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, could it be the wind?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Is that one of the reasons, the wind of the wires.
I know there's a lot of big wires in that area.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, So so if it's Eaton Canyon. That's considerably north
then of Pasadena. That's up in the hills up in
the mountain.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
In the mountain, yeah, north of the two ten freeway
about where uh sang, just north of San Gaberl Boulevard
and the two ten freeway you up north of that.
So it's on the border of Ana and Altadena, right
at the kind of at the base of the Mount Wilson.
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If you go all the way up the hill there,
you would take you to Mount Wilson, but it's it's
so it's right on the border of the of the
National Forest and the city area.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Right You've got the Eaton Canyon Reservoir up there, which
is probably extremely dry right now. And that's a beautiful
place where everybody and you know goes to you know,
walk dogs and run trails and stuff, and so that
fire because of the winds that'll be blowing then towards
Pasadena or towards the two ten.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It can be. But it just depends on the on
the winds how it shifts up there. Anion, because you know,
even though you have a wind coming out of the north,
it gets in those canyons and they could go every direction,
all right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Steve, We'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What are your thoughts on this fire in Pacific Palisades.
I know you with La County for a long time
as a fire captain out there. Have you seen anything
like this in your career?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Not quite that bad. I've been up in that area
of Palisades in Malibu, but not a wind because I
think this wind was coming more out of the north
than it was the northeast, and it was really pushing
down that hill. I mean when I was going all
the way down to the beach and burning the lifeguard
tower on the beach. Yeah, yeah, that's you know. I've
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been on a lot of strong wind driven fires, especially
out in the Inland Empire on Ontario and Cuckamonga. But
that fire there in Palisades, that was just incredible. But
I was watching it all day and the wind was
just just pushing that fire down there, like I mean,
the guys can't even really fight the fire when it's
like that. It's you know, your your waters streams are
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just pushing back in your face that you keep the
wind to your back and and then your streams just
break up. They're not really effective, especially in those palm trees.
Up there. Most of the fires truck hose streams can't
even reach the top of those palm trees. And the
wind's really hard, and those palm trees catch all the embers.
That's like at that Gelson's. You got all those palm
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trees in the parking lot and just fall right down
into the into the branches and get going even if
the even if the branches aren't dead brown, that's so
dry right now that those members just get down in
there and get things going.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So I appreciate you coming on. I'm gonna be on
midnight to three if you're up, we'd love to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, I'll be there, Okay, thank you, sir. All Right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Stein Krieger retired La County Fire camptain and.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, stuff, And he really gave you a calmost to visual,
which is that those winds are blowing so hard that
as you have that fire hose, and that's a muscular
kind of athletic thing to even hold that even against
those winds. And he's just saying, and the winds just
blow the water right back onto you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, that is some kick ass stream that comes out
of a fire hose. Yeah, And you can't get that
to stick. That's incredible. All right, We're in for an
unbelievable night. This fire has grown to twenty nine hundred acres.
There are thirteen thousand structures that are being threatened. No
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count of how many structures have been lost, but there
are a significant amount of those. Thirty thousand people are
under evacuation orders. Thirty thousand people. And I imagine you
know when that fire happened up in Brentwood where you
got burned out of your home.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I bet the electricity was out for a couple of
days too. Oh yeah, I think everything was, yeah, pretty
much shut down.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So they've got that to worry about as well. You know,
when the electricity is shut down and you know, you
go back to your house, it's still frightening, you know.
And then when you go back to your house and
all the other homes burnt around you. I don't know
if you experienced this, but some people talk of a
guilt there where your house survived and the other ones didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Your experience, then, yeah, well, and our house wasn't inhabitable,
so we kind of we were not able to just
go back in. But you're right in the sense that
as we drove in. It was a it was like
a lunar scape and it was all still smoldering. I
mean there literally was smoke coming up from the shout out,
you know, shells of homes and so, yeah, you wonder.
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You're grateful that you made it, but you're wondering, you know,
about the future, and you wonder, you know what it
would have taken for others to have, you know, been
so lucky.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I know you had that signature tree that you loved
in the middle of your home.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Did you have that removed before the fire? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
And I think I feel like it was you pointed
out to me because it was a big thing on
the on the deck of my home.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
There's a gorgeous big yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And it almost choked me up when we had to
cut it down because it had been infected with those
whatever they are, the Beatles. Yeah, and had that. I
thought it was you who said it to me. Had
you not taken out that tree, is what you said,
your home may not have survived at all.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think that's a good point. I'll take credit.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Then.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think maybe I didn't play that on you all.
R buddy, I appreciate you coming in. Good luck tonight,
and your show is the Mark Thompson Show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
It's on YouTube and across audio platforms including iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Every time I look into it, you get none of
the three or four million if there were four thousand people,
eighty four thousand.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, we're doing okay, thanks Pal, that's I mean for
for doing it for a year. There's been two years though,
is it two years? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Two years, but you've been very supportive and uh you
even stopped one of them through by one of our
listener events.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It was a big, fun big anyway, good luck tonight
on the round if you need to reach.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Okay, all right, we're lying mo Kelly next. He'll stay
untill midnight tonight. Right here all the information on this
big win event. The winds coming is gonna be ferocious
around midnight, and this fire continues at the Pacific Palisage.
You're gonna need KFI all night long and all day tomorrow,
So keep it right here on KFI AM six forty
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Now you
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can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
four to seven pm Monday through Friday. And anytime on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. All hands
on deck will be here till seven o'clock. Mo Kelly
takes over at seven, He'll go to midnight. I'll be
on from midnight to three am. Petros Papadagus will join
us from two to three am, and then Neil Savedra
(00:22):
will be on from three to five, Amy King from
five to six, Bill Handle, Garyan, Shannon, John colevelt this
show and it continues. We're gonna have all the latest
this unbelievable disaster in Pacific Palisades, one home after another
after another. We're watching on Chen eleven right now. There's
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a bush on fire. Who's a fence on fire, and
a garage is next, and there's no firefighters there. They
just don't have enough manpower to sit in front of
every one of these homes. And the worst wins are
about to happen in about two hours from now.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And we have James brother Is with us.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He's the with Noah and the National Weather Service covering
Los Angeles and Oxnard. He's a meteorologist. He was on
with us before Jays welcome back to KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How are you, sir, Hey doing okay?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Tim, I'm over here in the Los Angeles Emergency Operations
Center and we are watching the winds starting to pick
up across the Los Angeles base and now seeing some
gusts over fifty miles per hour in portions of the
Northern Inland Empire, in the San Gabriel Valley and San
Fernando Valley. So we'll start to see those winds continue
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to increase throughout the region. As you said, over the
next few hours. Win's peaking tonight around the midnight hour
with strongest gusts around eighty miles per hour. So we
are looking at the potential for some destruction from these
strong wind gusts coming out of this major stand and
a storm event. So I just want to make sure
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everybody's prepared and follow all local evacuation orders if you
do have any any of that come your way.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We could see eighty mile an hour winds at sea level.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The strongest wins will probably be above sea level, but
I couldn't rule out some gusts as strong as about
sixty miles per hour at sea level and about eighty
miles per hour in the hills about Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I mean, that's really an unprecedented wind event. When I
shun pressient and going back to what twenty eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Something like that, Yeah, this is it's been quite a
while since we've had this strong of a wind event,
definitely the strongest Santa Ana event so far of this season,
coupled with really historically extreme dryness across the region due
to the lack of rain.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So, James, you know again, I'm from the San Fernando Valle.
I live here my whole life, and I was, you know,
as a kid. You know, we're always protected if if
the Santa Ana winds were coming, you know, out of
the north and going towards the ocean. The people lived
in Chatsworth and Granada Hills, they were always sort of
protected by those mountains. But this is some kind of
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different wind event where the wind is coming down over
those mountains as quickly as it's going over the mountains.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's odd, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So in a in a more major Santa Ana event,
it does tend to affect much more of the area,
and that is what we're seeing, and that's due to
a couple of things. It's just the strength of the system.
But we also have what's called upper level wind support.
We have the upper parts of the atmosphere are supportive
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of pushing that air down towards the surface. So once
we have that in place, with that strong pressure gradient,
just the difference between the high and low pressure, then
we do it is pretty common to see it in
a more widespread but like you said, normally it's just
in those isolated areas. We have to have a major
event before we see the winds spreading across pretty much
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the whole region, like what we're seeing today.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And what about our friends, I know you cover La
and Oxnard. What's going on up in Oxnard? And when
can they expect the toughest winds?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
The winds up there in Ventura County are They're already
gusting around fifty sixty miles per hour in the Calabasas area. However,
it hasn't really reached the vent city of Ventura. But
we'll see the stronger winds after midnight up there, but
not quite as strong as what we're seeing in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh, they catch a little bit of a break.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, it shouldn't be quite as bad up there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, And when James. One last question. I know you're busy, man.
When can we go outside and not have any wind?
Is that Sunday? Is it Monday?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
The winds are gonna gradually decrease tomorrow, but we probably
will continue to have periods of gusty winds each night
and morning through Friday, and then this weekend it looks
like we'll finally see some relief from the from the
the sant Ana wins.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, well, I appreciate you coming on, James Brotherdan, thank
you so much. I really I know you're busy, man.
I appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a pleasure. Thank you so much for helping to
make sure everybody's prepared for this, for this damaging storm
that we're about to see.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Gonna be horrible, all right, the National Weather Service James Brotherdan,
thank you. We're going to continue here, and this is
going to be a wild night. This the winds that
we had today, I know a lot of people, including
myself Mark Thompson, thought this was crazy, but tonight it's
gonna be worse. And these embers that are flying around
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Pacific Palisades, they're going to be burning more homes. The
trees at Gelson's. They're protected by a lot of cement
around there, Yeah, a lot of it. They're in the Palisades. Yeah,
you've been to that Gelstons of course, and those trees
are on fire, and God forbid, you know if that Gelson's,
I don't know if there's another market out there. I'm
not that familiar with the Palisades, but I think that's
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the market that people go to out there.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I mean, the entire area of the Palisades town is
being thrown on its side as a result of this.
The evacuations, of course include everybody. So I mean, you know,
the shops, grocery stores, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're all empty.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
And power, as you suggested, has been cut off to
a lot of the area because of the because of
the devastation.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And the embers that are flying around there, and this
is only going to get worse at between eight o'clock
to night, so an hour and fifteenth hour and forty
five minutes until ten am is going to be ferocious.
The wins right now are are not even close to
what they're going to be at midnight tonight. And everybody
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we've had on so far, we've had Rick Dickers come on.
I know you're you were in the weather game for
a while. We had Captain Eric Scott come on, and
then we also had James Brotherton come on. They all
agree that around midnight tonight is when we're going to
see the second punch, and that is going to be brutal.
There's going to be a lot of devastation.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I mean, frankly, when you're coming on the air, maybe
the peak of the and it will extend, I mean
continue for hours a few hours after that. Again, if
you follow wind velocity, sure, but look it's no picnic
when the wind drops to thirty five forty miles an hour.
I mean we're talking about at the peak of the
wind velocities, you know, sixty to eighty miles an hour.
But you know, even at forty or thirty five, a
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fire that's driven by those kinds of wins, you cannot
get the upper hand on that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
All right, we're going to cover this all night long. Again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We'll have myself Mo Kelly, I'll be back at midnight then,
Neil Savedra, Amy King, Bill Handle, Garyan, Shannon, John Colebelt.
We are going to be on as long as there
is these winds, and as long as there is the
fire going on in Pacific Palisades, we will be covering
it wall to wall all night long right here on
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KFI AM six forty. You need to stay on KFI tonight.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
This is a major disaster that's going on in Los
Angeles right now. I know we're feeling winds throughout southern California,
all the way from Central California on the coast, all
the way to San Diego and Mexico. Everyone's feeling these wins.
But the people in Pacific Palisades are not only dealing
with the winds but a ferocious, unbelievable, fast moving fire
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going right through the heart of the town. And that
fire is up to twenty nine hundred acres twenty nine
hundred acres.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It seems like every hour it doubles.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Well, I mean, it's exploding inside. Besides because of the wind.
It's just as we were saying, there's just no way
to stop, right And what.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Does he look like tomorrow? You know, when the sun
comes up.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
After you've had hours and hours, is there any way
to stem this time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I don't know what's going to happen in this state.
We had the the OHI, not the OHI, the Ventura
fires and it started well, yeah, it started in seem
Valley and then went into parts of Oxnard and Ventura
and that destroyed a bunch of homes up there. Then
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we had the Malibu fire started in Malibu Canyon, lasted
a bunch of days, a lot of homes burned, and
then this fire as well. I don't know. I don't
know in the future if we're if any of us
are gonn to be able to get fire insurance if
you live in the hills.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Anymore, I think the answer is probably not no.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, But then what does that do to the economy.
I mean, if you can't sell your you know, eight
million dollar home to somebody else and they don't you know,
the economy is they rely on property taxes for a
lot of it. And so a property tax of an
eight million dollar home is probably fifty thousand dollars a
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year or more. No, well, it's eight one, it's eight
it's about sixty. It's about seventy thousand dollars a year.
And that's and that's and if you can't get anybody
to buy that home. You lose that tax revenue of
every single home that can't sell.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, I mean it's the economy beyond that.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean, the real estate economy is an important engine
of the economy. In California, we have some of the
most valuable real estate in the country.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And then what do we do it, Like with the
you know, the school, the charter school that's burning, Polly's
threatened out there, you know, high school out there, this,
you know, the Gelson's trees are on fire. I know,
I keep going back to that, but that strikes me
as something that's really unusual. You would think the trees
surrounded by you know, fifty sixty yards of pavement in
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every direction would be safe from these fires, and they're not.
They're all on fire. And so this whole landscape changes
tonight and into tomorrow, and it's going to be you know,
as Tim lind said, it's going to be you know,
five ten, maybe fifteen or twenty years, maybe a couple
decades until it gets back to normal. I remember the
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Brentwood Fire in the nineteen seventies where a ton of
homes burned in the Brentwood Fire, that's where I jumped.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
The four h five. Yeah, they call them bell Air fire. Yeah,
the bell Air fire. It was horrible. You see pictures
to everybody if you google it what Tim's talking about.
You can see celebrities like Jazhaga boring through the ashes
of the fire that consumed her home.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It was quite extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I have a feeling that there are a lot
of moms and dads who have young kids and they
live up on the highlands and they've had it with this.
The amount of energy, the amount of you know, of
just fear and sheer terror that this brings on doesn't
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equal the beautiful view anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Well, this is interesting because you know we live this.
Courtney wants to leave California for just this reason. You know,
we had our neighborhood burned, as you know, it burned
and we had to evacuate, and we faced a lot
of these decisions. We continue to face them. But I
always ask her, where do you want to move? Where
do you want to go? I mean you need.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Something like that, that condescending way. Actually I took something
off there. Well, I think it's even worse than that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Yeah, buttree, but you do need to move somewhere, and
California is an extraordinary place to live. This may be
an odd moment to, you know, make that argument, but
I just think there's a lot special about California.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, you never know again.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Mothers and dads with young kids who live up in
the Highlands and they're watching this fire and they don't
know if they're going to go home to their you know,
go to their home tomorrow, whether it's going to be
there or not. And what that does to kids. I
think it has a lifelong effect on children when your
home burns to the ground and you know, that's their
safe place, that's where, you know, where They've been told
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great news in their room. They've been told bad news
in their room. They've had Christmas or Hanika Kwans or
whatever they celebrate. They've had Thanksgivings, they have pictures all
over the house of they're family members. They've got dogs
and cats and friends and schoolmates, and they get into
you know, soccer or basketball or volleyball, whatever, and everything
is surrounded in that home. They have mendless meals and
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they're with family and friends. They've had Grandma and grandpa
over from back east, and everything is that home.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And when that home is gone.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think it has a tremendous lifelong effect on children.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know it does well.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
The other thing is you tell kids typically things that
sort of shelter them from having the kind of anxiety
that you're talking about. Right, you say, don't worry, we're
safe here, or don't worry.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Look, but you can't hide that sometimes I know exactly,
but you can.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
You say things like, hey, it's always possible that we'll
have to leave it. Right now, everything's fine, don't worry
you in that way, you try to allay any fears
they might have.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I think I you know, it's it's going to
be It's going to be tough for a lot of
people for a long time. There's gonna be a lot
of people who hold their emotions in. I'm the king
of that, by the way of you know, just holding
him in until I melt down. And you're going to
hold them in. You're gonna be brave for your wife,
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for your kids, for your has been and you're going
to feel this in a couple of months and it's
gonna knock you on your ass. But for now, you've
got to be strong for those kids. You've got to
tell these kids. Look, Mom is still here, Dad's still here,
the dog's still here, Grandma and Grandpa are still here.
We're all still alive. We can rebuild this. This is
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material crap. And you know, on the other hand, maybe
it is a good lesson for the kids, you know,
for the for the kids that that realize that there
are more important things than the iPhone or the you know,
their bed or their you know, their their dress or whatever.
And that's family. You know, everyone's still whether in a
hotel or or whether you're in your big home in
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the Palisades, you're still together as a family, you know,
and maybe it makes the family stronger. That's ponsible as well.
That's ponsible as well. All Right, we're going to be
here all night long. It's Conway Thompson till seven, seven o'clock,
Moe Kelly till midnight. I'm coming back at midnight when
we're stuff. The strongest wins nine to three am. I'll
be here then, Nil Sevedra, Amy King, Bill Handle, Gary
(16:04):
and Shannon John Colvill.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So keep it here.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
We're keeping an eye on this fire and we're not
going to get any helicopter footage from the news stations
until early afternoon tomorrow. That's when President Biden takes off.
As long as President Biden's here, nobody can fly over
that fire because that fire is within the the flight
restriction zone.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
No news person can. Yeah, yeah, that's what I said.
You said nobody can, Buddy, I'm going to reach across
and stranger.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I thought I thought you'd enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But okay, God, you got to be so precise here
with Mark. But you've done it three times. Okay, I
correct the number of times. I'm not talking about helicopters
that are fighting fires. I'm talking about the news copters.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Okay, sorry about that. God, tomorrow is gonna be fun.
So you don't want me to come tonight at midnight,
then that's right? Okay, Yeah, okay, it's the Conway Show.
I'm your low. It worked finally, I knew I knew it.
How you get a kick it? I'm going to strangle you. Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
All right, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And we'll be here till seven o'clock and then Moe
Kelly comes in to take over coverage. This is on uh,
I think unprecedent. I can't remember last time this type
of wind was affecting southern California.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I know you said in twenty eleven. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know whether whether it was here, whether it's
two buzzed, or what happened in twenty eleven.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Well, the thing about just in general, just because there's
a weather guy for so long, there's a recency bias.
We just don't remember much of any seasons. That's why
you need to go back and actually look at the
charts and see. But I think that was the last time.
And also honestly it's corroborated by some of the people
who've talked to medi Rall, just like Rick dick Er,
et cetera, who say, yeah, that was last probably severe
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a wind event that would even hold, you know, any
kind of comparison to what we're going through now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Man, I don't remember that, and I was working here.
I started here in twenty ten, and I don't remember
that event.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Maybe I'm just a memory shot. You know, you can
drink your memory away, oh can yeh. The Palisades fire
is up to twenty nine hundred acres. It is a
tremendous disaster. There are a lot of people who are
have seen there are going to see their entire life
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burn up.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And I think a lot of people don't. Didn't take
like I'm one of them. I don't take it seriously
with the get your ready, set go bag, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I didn't take that serious. They still don't.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I have an emergency kit for earthquake, but I don't
have all my memories that I could take with me
and split do you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I actually have already loaded up the car. Oh wow,
you're ready to roll?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well we've been through it and oh oh yeah, we
just don't mess with it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's real. So you really have a car loaded with
ready to go, with clothes and with that, right, yeah,
all those stuff. That's good. Good for you, buddy.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No, I mean that's just again, it's it's forged of experience.
That's the only reason I've done it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Bellio gave me a phone number here. LA Fire Department
is asking all members to call and report immediately, Is
that right, Belli on.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
LA PD la FD, LA Fire.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Department availability, Report availability?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right? Report availability.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That is not a good sign when they're asking firefighters
to report availability.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Can I give out that phone numbers? That number one?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yes, No, it's been on all the channels. Okay, the
phone number if you're at the LA Fire Department, it's
two one three five seven six eight nine six two
two on three five, seven, six eight nine six too.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You would think there'd be a.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Way to get a hold of them, maybe a cell
phone or pager or something.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It thinks would be like you could send out a
blast too, or maybe this is the way they do it.
You know, they ask us to alastah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Watching the wind here, you can see it's picking up
in the Palisades and the ferocious wind is going to
be right around midnight. So whatever you have to do
between now and midnight to secure I know. Krozier Krozer,
you have a very high quality, very heavy furniture around
(20:36):
your pool.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah. Half of it ended up in the pool this
morning when I got up. That's a chase lounge. It
weighs like thirty forty to fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, and I had to yank it out of the
pool this morning, along with a bunch of other stuff.
About good five six pieces of Pattia furniture ended up
in the pool today.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It wasn't the neighborhood kids that I know, No, it
was the wind.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I ever catch them rascals, Yeah, I just choke them out.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But it was the wind that did it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Uh yeah, that's heavy. I remember being at your house.
It's you know, you restrain your back, move in that crap.
Oh yeah, and then and then it's water logged. Oh no, yeah,
all right, I'm looking at pictures right now. Mark that
picture on Channel eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right now. It looks like hell yeah, no, it's a healscape.
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
All the homes are burned. There's one Oh no that
I was gonna say, there's one house that's not burning.
Then they put the camera over and now that house
is burning.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, burning from just behind.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But every one of those homes on that beautiful tree
lined street is on fire.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
And this Pallisades is one of the most beautiful neighborhoods
in all of America, in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, it's it's the most desirable place to live I
think in California. You know, it has better weather than
Brinn County or San Francisco. It has everything going for
it where it did. It has a great downtown area.
There's a lot of kids who really enjoy that area.
There's a lot of people that work in the entertainment
and they live in that area, a lot of music people.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
They just redid that entire that, Rick Caruso. Uh, it's
like a mini it's like a mall type thing. It's
an outdoor mall with the restaurants like Americans. Yeah, exactly
like that. And uh it's stunning. I mean everything in
the palace just has a is picture perfect, and tonight
it's all ablaze.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And somebody's looking at this right now. It's a two
story house sort of a colonial style, I guess, not
good with home styles.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And it's on fire. It's next to it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Look at it looks like a brand new house where
it's been modern, you know, updated, and it looks like
a modern home. And they're bringing the fire hose out
and they're going to try to save the house next
to it, but they can't save the house that's already
on fire. They're not even putting any water on it.
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Steve Kreeger is with us LA County. We're gonna take
a break the market to come back and talk to
Steve Krieger. He's La County retired fire captain and he's
gonna be on with this, I think tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
As well, so we'll talk to him.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What a night, What a night you're going to have.
You'll be back on the air at midnight.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's right, going back at midnight, and we'll be reporting
on the most ferocious winds. They're due to start in
an hour and ten minutes at eight pm. That's gonna
be the start of it, but the real brunt of
it is going to be midnight tonight.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But it's already blowing like crazy. You just look out
the lam you can see the street signs and trees,
and you know, it's all very right now, blustery.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's moving the lampposts and that's very hard to do.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, you're right, I mean, look at that, and it's
going to as I say, I mean, if these wind
velocities check out, yep, it'll be even more intense.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right, let's talk to us. Steve Kreegery.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He is a retired fire captain with La County or
Orange County Fire Department. I don't remember what it was.
I think it's Orange County, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, he's got what Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Part of my damn, I always all right, I messed.
I always get wrong on fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So we're talking about this fire in the Palisades, but
you've got news that there's something else going on.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
There's a charted out as ten acres now it's bigger
Eaton Canyon on the east end of Altadena and the
border of Pasadena. They got bullbrush response from Melle County
and Pasadena on it, and also Forest Service are doing
a lot of structure protection same area as that Kinneloa
fire back in nineteen ninety three that took out a
(24:39):
whole bunch of homes. So they've got in structure protection
going on over there right now. And the coppers aren't
able to drop right now. They've got a copper overhead
monitoring it, but they're not able to drop. And I
didn't hear exactly why.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, could it be the wind?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Is that one of the reasons, the wind of the wires.
I know there's a lot of big wires in that area.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, So so if it's Eaton Canyon. That's considerably north
then of Pasadena. That's up in the hills up in
the mountain.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
In the mountain, yeah, north of the two ten freeway
about where uh sang, just north of San Gaberl Boulevard
and the two ten freeway you up north of that.
So it's on the border of Ana and Altadena, right
at the kind of at the base of the Mount Wilson.
(25:27):
If you go all the way up the hill there,
you would take you to Mount Wilson, but it's it's
so it's right on the border of the of the
National Forest and the city area.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Right You've got the Eaton Canyon Reservoir up there, which
is probably extremely dry right now. And that's a beautiful
place where everybody and you know goes to you know,
walk dogs and run trails and stuff, and so that
fire because of the winds that'll be blowing then towards
Pasadena or towards the two ten.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It can be. But it just depends on the on
the winds how it shifts up there. Anion, because you know,
even though you have a wind coming out of the north,
it gets in those canyons and they could go every direction,
all right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Steve, We'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What are your thoughts on this fire in Pacific Palisades.
I know you with La County for a long time
as a fire captain out there. Have you seen anything
like this in your career?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Not quite that bad. I've been up in that area
of Palisades in Malibu, but not a wind because I
think this wind was coming more out of the north
than it was the northeast, and it was really pushing
down that hill. I mean when I was going all
the way down to the beach and burning the lifeguard
tower on the beach. Yeah, yeah, that's you know. I've
(26:43):
been on a lot of strong wind driven fires, especially
out in the Inland Empire on Ontario and Cuckamonga. But
that fire there in Palisades, that was just incredible. But
I was watching it all day and the wind was
just just pushing that fire down there, like I mean,
the guys can't even really fight the fire when it's
like that. It's you know, your your waters streams are
(27:05):
just pushing back in your face that you keep the
wind to your back and and then your streams just
break up. They're not really effective, especially in those palm trees.
Up there. Most of the fires truck hose streams can't
even reach the top of those palm trees. And the
wind's really hard, and those palm trees catch all the embers.
That's like at that Gelson's. You got all those palm
(27:26):
trees in the parking lot and just fall right down
into the into the branches and get going even if
the even if the branches aren't dead brown, that's so
dry right now that those members just get down in
there and get things going.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So I appreciate you coming on. I'm gonna be on
midnight to three if you're up, we'd love to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, I'll be there, Okay, thank you, sir. All Right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Stein Krieger retired La County Fire camptain and.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, stuff, And he really gave you a calmost to visual,
which is that those winds are blowing so hard that
as you have that fire hose, and that's a muscular
kind of athletic thing to even hold that even against
those winds. And he's just saying, and the winds just
blow the water right back onto you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, that is some kick ass stream that comes out
of a fire hose. Yeah, And you can't get that
to stick. That's incredible. All right, We're in for an
unbelievable night. This fire has grown to twenty nine hundred acres.
There are thirteen thousand structures that are being threatened. No
(28:39):
count of how many structures have been lost, but there
are a significant amount of those. Thirty thousand people are
under evacuation orders. Thirty thousand people. And I imagine you
know when that fire happened up in Brentwood where you
got burned out of your home.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I bet the electricity was out for a couple of
days too. Oh yeah, I think everything was, yeah, pretty
much shut down.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So they've got that to worry about as well. You know,
when the electricity is shut down and you know, you
go back to your house, it's still frightening, you know.
And then when you go back to your house and
all the other homes burnt around you. I don't know
if you experienced this, but some people talk of a
guilt there where your house survived and the other ones didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Your experience, then, yeah, well, and our house wasn't inhabitable,
so we kind of we were not able to just
go back in. But you're right in the sense that
as we drove in. It was a it was like
a lunar scape and it was all still smoldering. I
mean there literally was smoke coming up from the shout out,
you know, shells of homes and so, yeah, you wonder.
(29:43):
You're grateful that you made it, but you're wondering, you know,
about the future, and you wonder, you know what it
would have taken for others to have, you know, been
so lucky.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I know you had that signature tree that you loved
in the middle of your home.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Did you have that removed before the fire? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
And I think I feel like it was you pointed
out to me because it was a big thing on
the on the deck of my home.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
There's a gorgeous big yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And it almost choked me up when we had to
cut it down because it had been infected with those
whatever they are, the Beatles. Yeah, and had that. I
thought it was you who said it to me. Had
you not taken out that tree, is what you said,
your home may not have survived at all.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think that's a good point. I'll take credit.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Then.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think maybe I didn't play that on you all.
R buddy, I appreciate you coming in. Good luck tonight,
and your show is the Mark Thompson Show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
It's on YouTube and across audio platforms including iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Every time I look into it, you get none of
the three or four million if there were four thousand people,
eighty four thousand.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, we're doing okay, thanks Pal, that's I mean for
for doing it for a year. There's been two years though,
is it two years? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Two years, but you've been very supportive and uh you
even stopped one of them through by one of our
listener events.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It was a big, fun big anyway, good luck tonight
on the round if you need to reach.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Okay, all right, we're lying mo Kelly next. He'll stay
untill midnight tonight. Right here all the information on this
big win event. The winds coming is gonna be ferocious
around midnight, and this fire continues at the Pacific Palisage.
You're gonna need KFI all night long and all day tomorrow,
So keep it right here on KFI AM six forty
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