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October 2, 2025 • 37 mins
A wild police pursuit tore through downtown L.A. as an assault suspect on a motorcycle weaved dangerously in and out of traffic. In South L.A., police arrested a woman after discovering a body inside a car at a tow yard. At Dodger Stadium, one four-legged fan stole the spotlight — Tiger Rocco, the dog whose owner runs the Palm Springs Dodgers Nation Fan Club. Meanwhile, a San Ramon jewelry store robbery suspect had bail set at a staggering $8 million. Later in the show, retired USAF Colonel and former NASA astronaut Terry Virts joined us to talk about his run for U.S. Senate in Texas and where he stands on key issues.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM sixty and you're listening to the Conway
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a high speed Chase. It's on channel two, Channel four.
I believe that's it so far. Maybe channel nine ILA
O KTLA. All right, KTLA is on a two dig dong.
Everybody's with it except channel seven. I'm sure Chris Chrissy's

(00:22):
refueling somewhere and he'll be over it shortly. So seventy
miles an hour westbound ten he was on the one ten,
the one ten through La. He only lost almost lost
him through that third Street tunnel in downtown La.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
The the.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
The dream tunnel for most people fleeing the cops, because
once you get in that tunnel, you can lose the car,
the motorcycle and take off.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
He got off the freeway Western, so he's going northbound.
Let me see, it says south, but I think it's northbound. Yeah,
the shadows on the right hand side, So he's going
northbound on Western, northbound Western, coming up on Washington, and
then after that it'll be Wilshire. And he's flying away

(01:10):
from a from the cops on a motorcycle. And I
think Krozy'd you say he's a murderous a suspect, assault suspect.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay, I don't see. Have you seen vehicles behind him
at all or did they back off?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I've not seen it. Since he's gotten off the freeway.
He's doing a solo act.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean, I don't even know how they could possibly
keep up because he's just he's splitting cars.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, you know, there's no way he can keep up
unless they get a HP motorcycle out there that can,
you know, keep up with him. I got to be
honest with you though, that I'm not a not a
noze epic guy.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
He needs Yeah, he needs to skip a meal.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, he's not a salad guy running away from the
cops on a motorcycle.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, he ain't running, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
And I think you get less mileage when you're you know,
two forty.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
A little bit harder to get up that speed.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, I think so. I think the motorcycles just looking
up at you, like what the hell is going on here?
So it's, uh, it's on Western. He is going northbound,
even though it still says southbound on TV's going northbound Western,
and he's just passed. I think he just passed Wilsher.
He's coming up on Wilshare. Oh man, he almost hit

(02:18):
that truck. Oh bbo, we could have saw that this
guy die right there if he hit that truck, he
would add. He's wearing a helmet, so he's got, you know,
some safety precaution. It looks like he's got at least
one glove on and short sleeve, which is not recommended
for motorcycles. You want to try to protect yourself whatsoever.
But he's always cutting a car off. And but he's

(02:42):
still flying northbound Western and they still say southbound.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
That's odd all right, through the crosswalk.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's gotta be Wilsher there, all right, So it's I
think that's Wilshire that he learned that. Maybe I'm gonna
guess Olympic. Okay, all right, I'll go with Olympic then.
But then they're also saying south yes, so they up
on that all right. Oxford. Oh, I used to live
right in that area. I used to live on Normandy
and Woolshire. That was my Chinese plus restaurant there. Oh,

(03:09):
he's going into a parking lot. Okay, this is where
it's gonna get funky. It looks like he's gone into
a parking lot and Lapd airship overhead, and they're going
to try to grab this guy in the.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Check right there at the at the entrance of that structure.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh yeah, they're flying in there.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
She's waving the vehicles in him.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't think he's got to have enough time to
ditch and run, especially his size.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think that's the Car Museum parking lot. Maybe maybe
I'm wrong, maybe that's uh, maybe that is Olympic. But
it looks like, yeah, he's in this parking lot. This
says Connecticut. And oh they just keep switching up Olympic Oxford. Okay,
Olympic in Oxford. All right, So it's a big parking lot,
four level parking lot. There he is. There's a guy

(03:55):
walking on that's definitely not him. You're gonna see him
when he walks out. Everybody will know it. You know,
he's two hundred and fifty pounds. Dice used to say,
eat a carrot. But Lapd flying into this parking lot.
Now looking for this guy on Oxford and Connecticut in
mid city after fleeing the cops in downtown La another one.

(04:17):
There's another cop car there. So at least three cop
cars surrounding this parking facility, and they're looking for a
rather large guy with a brown shirt on.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, he's going to be hard to miss.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, and he's going to be easy pickens.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Another cop two more cop cars surrounding this place. So
whatever he did, they want this guy. They want this
guy pretty badly. And they're surrounding the parking lot now
on Connecticut and Oxford, and they're not allowing anybody out. Oh,
they just let that car out, so maybe he's not
you know, the trunk of that car. I'll bet they're

(04:52):
checking trunks and cars before they come out, before they exit.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
That parking lot.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
But if you want to watch, it's on channel two
four now it's on seven.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Chris Christie's over it as well.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
That is the Korea Town Galleria.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, all right, and he is going to stick out
like a sore thumb in that joint.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
All right, let's get some audio.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Into a parking garage or under an overpass or something
like that. And we've seen them get away before on motorcycles.
I was just wander asked the question because what he
was when you have a you know, relatively close shot
of this guy, looks like it like if there was
a jacket or something flapping behind him.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
There wasn't a jacket. Asked that question.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
And the other reason I did that is because we've
seen over and over again too where a suspect could
just you know, start shedding clothing and walking out nothing.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It happened.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's Pat Harvey. I think Chris Christie's over it as well.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Let me see if I can pick up Chris Christie
on Channel seven live over this high speed chase.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
The information about what the nature of the initial offense
was and whether the suspect still poses a danger.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
And one of the things that I know too is
it appears that.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
A lot of cops twenty five.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
Cop cars vehicles now and are kind of patrolling the
area on foot. Another possibility, right, is that this person
on the motorcycle could kind of hop off the motorcycle
and then just get away on foot somewhere, which is.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
All the handcuffing a guy in channel Oh, yeah, you're.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Right, three stories to the parking structure.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh, you're right, he's took off his brown shirt.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
Yeah, three story parking structure here, all.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right, So it looks like on Channel seven and we'll
pick this up in a second. He took off his
brown shirt, went after him with vigor, but you.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Can't take off two and forty pounds.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Was drawn. Didn't have to use them.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
And they got their guy, looks like.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
From them and that wasn't the entire usually you like,
you say, there, you pull into that those big parking structures.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
You got a good chase. Oh yeah, not this one.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Then heel and put's too small in handcuffs us around.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, that was a bad parking lot of patient.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
As far as the initials, this is a very tall
white guy or hispanic guy in a in a Korean
galleria marketplace.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
Means it's all over and that they believe they have
their suspect in custody. This is in Koreatown on Oxford
near that's the guy Western Avenue.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's funny the different stations that are covering. I've still
had it on KTLA here. They're the copters.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Circling cameras, moving real fast. He can't get anything.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
You have no information, yeah, And Chris Christy's like, yeah,
we already booked him. He's done. So it looks like
this chase is over. Code for LA PD got their guy.
He ran into the wrong parking lot, and he had
way too many cops around him at the time he
did that, so bad timing. He should have stayed downtown

(07:49):
with the high rises and a motorcycle where you can
get away from the cops. But once you get outside
the city and cops can fly around there, they're going
to get you most of the time. And it looks
like they got their There's got to be twenty cop
cars around there.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
The communication for this aspect there he is right there
on KT. Yeah, it looks like Hispanic guy bold.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah he's dead. He got his white T shirt on.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he took off the brown shirt that he had
rolling and now he's walking down the Walk of Shame
down the Olympic Boulevard.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Almost as soon as he pulled into that structure, within
twenty thirty seconds that I saw a lapd cheick waving.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Cars in here here, going here, and the sharks are
in it. That took no time.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now they're going to frisk him or I guess read
him his rights and now he's going to be Oh,
they pull up his shirt. You know, he may have
been going home to watch the Rams forty nine Ers game,
but that's changed plans over Oh, how nice.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
The LAPD officer pulled out he's still got two shirts on.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Oh he put a white shirt over the brown shirt.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, he switched them up, and I guess and the
officer pulled out his inner undershirt and like wiped his face. Okay,
we'll sweat there, buddy or winter bro. What a life
this guy's got going, especially tonight.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, he's gonna be a speed wrapping with the LAPD
for a while. All right, So let's go through it again.
We're going through it ten times. We're going to go
through an eleventh time. Where were you when this happened?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Where were you?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Whose motorcycle is that? What's your name? What's your birthday?
What's your so security?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
You know, they constantly this is life. Guy's life got
hugely busy. Right now, he's on national TV. He's on TV.
He's the star of television right now in Los Angeles
Channel two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven, they're all watching
this one guy. He became a celebrity in ten seconds.
He's now the most famous guy right now on TV.

(09:39):
Oh what they let him go? Did they uncuff him?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
No?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I think they did.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm watching Channel four and it looks like they they
took the handcuffs off this guy. Are you watching Channel four?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm switching it up now.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, it looks like they took the handcuffs off this guy.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
This guy may not be.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
The guy, come on, wow, break If this is not
the guy, holy smokes.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Or maybe he's going through an episode. Oh, that might
be it. He wants to sit down. I think I
think he's about to pass.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Out a little follow up on the browse brow wipe.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, so I think they took the handcuffs off. So
you know, if he does die when the handcuffs on,
it's a bad look for LAPD. I think there's gonna
be an ambulance there shortly, and this guy's gonna need
some another tying him up again.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
They put him on them.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, they're tying him up again. He's uh, he's done. God,
I thought he. I thought it was like, you know,
he had the one out card and they got the
wrong guy.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Now they it's it's the guy. It's the guy, all right.
Well that's over ten to four on the chase.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Interesting for a while, they looks like they had good guy,
then they didn't know the guy.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Now they got the guy. So it's over.

Speaker 9 (10:55):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six four.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
The Rams are going to play the San Francisco forty
nine Ers tonight.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
That's a big deal. And look what a sports week.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Dodgers played on Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday is the Rams.
Friday a day off. Maybe you can go to sant
Anita and enjoy that. That's your sport for Friday and
then Saturday back with the Dodgers and the Phillies. That's
a great sports week, great sports week, great sports talk.
So this is a good sports week in Los Angeles.

(11:30):
Very nice sports week. Well, we come at five point thirty.
We're gonna have an astronaut, a guy we've had on
before and you may recognize his name, retired Colonel Terry Vertz.
He's the guy that went around the entire world on
a plane. He's retired US Air Force colonel, US astronaut

(11:51):
and he's running for senate in the state of Texas.
He's gonna have a fundraiser here in Los Angeles, So
we thought we'd have mon and make you a were
aware of him and his fundraiser running for senate in
the great state of Texas. All right, here's the news
with this body in the car. This is you know,
horrible news. Two bodies were found week and a half,

(12:14):
two weeks ago in different cars on the same day.
And this is not the David incident where the car
the fourteen fifteen year old girl was found in the car.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
This is the other car.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And we have an update on what's happening here with
the other car and the other body.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
The news.

Speaker 10 (12:34):
A woman has been arrested in connection with the death
of a person found in the trunk of a vehicle
at a tow yard in South Los Angeles. This is
not the death investigation involving the car that belongs to
the singer David. This was a separate case last month.
Please say that they have arrested fifty two year old
Sandra Romo Diaz for the murder. The victim still has
not been publicly identified.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
There you go, all right, So we'll have as much
information on that as we can.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
But that's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
There were some news organizations that thought that was the
other car, the tesla with the other body, and they've
corrected that sense.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
It's crazy that she was actually rested on a couple
of days after the body was found.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, but they're just getting around to Atlanta's no huh. Yeah,
it is odd and it's strange, but that's got to
be what an odd day for LAPD to handle two
different bodies in two different cars and in the exact
same day.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
It's hot, It really is hot.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, let's talk about the crackdown since we're talking
about crime anyway. A judge sets eight million dollar bail
for the Salmon Road jewelry store robbery suspect. Eight million dollars.
You know, when you kill somebody in southern California, it's
usually a million dollars bail.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's what most murders are. A million dollars bail.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Then you can get out and you know, sleep at
home while you're waiting for your trial. This is at
eight million, so they must suspect this guy is about
to flee the country and they don't want him.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
They want him here.

Speaker 11 (14:07):
The suspect that was in court today has been identified
as Jimmy Macray. According to the public defender, he's a
father of two who works at a nonprofit in San Francisco.
Police found jewelery in his possession connecting him to this crime.
A week after the brazen robbery at Heller Jewelers in
San Ramon's Bishop Branch, one of the four suspects arrested

(14:27):
was in court Monday.

Speaker 12 (14:29):
He's free, sad, he's innocent. He said he wasn't there.
Ray sad, He's innocent.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 12 (14:34):
He was not there.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, you're not doing him a hell of a lot
of favors by acting crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
He's like, shut up.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, He's like, look, I'm I told him I wasn't there.
But when you get nutty and and start yelling, it
makes me look like an a hole and they're going
to want to prosecute me even more.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Mom, shut up.

Speaker 12 (14:54):
Three sad. He's innocent. He said he wasn't there. Ray sad.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
They all say they weren't there, all of them. Exactly
exactly right.

Speaker 12 (15:02):
You were not there.

Speaker 11 (15:03):
You didnity his girlfriend coming out of the courtroom, making
his stands clear. Twenty seven year old Jimmy McRae denied
the allegations, his public defender, saying on behalf of Ray,
he's not guilty. He was not at the incident at all.
Ray is facing thirteen counts of second degree robbery. One
count of conspiracy to commit a crime. Each robbery has

(15:24):
an enhancement that can add additional years to his sentence.
So his family member was in court today and said
that he was not there. He denies these allegations. What's
your response to that.

Speaker 13 (15:36):
Well, everyone, of course is an accent until are proven,
until the charges are proven, right, the district attorney has
that burden.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
We would not have filed.

Speaker 13 (15:45):
The case if we did not think we had sufficient
evidence to prove these charges beyond a reasonable doubt.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Okay, there's the more sane response, not from the girlfriend
who have the guy caught with jewelry that stole him,
but in the das.

Speaker 11 (16:00):
The Contracosta County District Attorney confirmed they have evidence that
connects the suspect to the crime.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
So far from the investigation that the police have reported
that the vehicles that they arrived in and the vehicles
that they used for the getaway were us alleged.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
To be stolen cars.

Speaker 13 (16:18):
We know that the amount of jewelry that was taken
is estimated to be one point seven million dollars.

Speaker 11 (16:26):
And sent a message to the other people involved who
have yet to be arrested.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, there's like twenty five people involved that robbery.

Speaker 13 (16:34):
When you commit these acts and Contra Costa County, please
know that the police will do make every effort to
apprehend and when they're apprehended, the District Attorney's Office will
prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I wish you work at a balloon store.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Who's the guy blown balloons from the background? God Almighty.
The DA's office has a balloon business on the side.

Speaker 13 (16:57):
And when they're apprehended, the District Attorneys Office will prosecute
to the fullest extent of the law.

Speaker 11 (17:03):
The District Attorney's office said only one hundred thousand dollars
in jewelry has been recovered in this case. Ray's bail
was set at eight million dollars. His next core here
and is set for October ten.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
All right, they're looking for a lot of people with
that robbery, lots of guys.

Speaker 14 (17:18):
One of the reports said that when he was arrested,
he was wearing some of this stolen jewelry. Right, and
you know this, this arrest came from drones. Were the
first responders on this.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh that was the drone one. Yeah, where they captured
the four cars fleet.

Speaker 14 (17:32):
Yeah, San Ramon police had already launched their drone even
before the robbery crew showed up to the shopping center,
because they got a tip from the Dublin police that
they were.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Staging, okay, in a valet area. All right, well there
you go, right, they're gone, they're caught. All right, we'll
come back.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
We'll talk to astronaut Terry Urtz, he's running for a
senate in Texas.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
We'll find out what's going.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
On with it.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on de Mayo from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Gaza protests going on there right now, Palestinian slash Goza protests.
So when we get the exact interchange or intersection, we'll
have that for you. And then in bel Air there's
a car that drove into some kind of building and
we're getting information on that.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
That just happened.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
A car crashes into a Jewish school, and that's always
a dicey, especially on the holiday today.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Isn't the young corporism today?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Indeed, And so anytime something happens at a Jewish school,
you have to suspect that it may have been on purpose.
So a car crash into a Jewish school, Jewish school
in bel Air, and as soon as we have there's
a ton of firemen there. It looks like there's a
woman that may have been the driver. This could have
been a complete accident. So before everybody gets alarmed. It's

(18:54):
after school, it's five point thirty in the afternoon, there
aren't any kids there. This could have been and just
an accident. So we'll get that information for you as
soon as we can. All right, We have an astronaut
with us, and that's always cool, you know, to have
astronauts people have gone into space and lived to tell
about it. And his name is Colonel Terry Vertz and

(19:16):
he's with us. Colonel, how are you, sir.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And it's good to be with you again. It's always
entertaining to hear the California news.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
It just doesn't stop. We had a police chase earlier.
We had a body, you know, found in a car.
We're trying to figure out who did that. We got
a jewelry store that was robbed, guys being held on
eight million dollars bail. Now, we got a bel Air,
a Jewish school in bel Air. A car's flown into
that and about a mile from where that car flew.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Into that Jewish school.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
There's a big protest over Palestine and the Gaza Strip.
So that's just an afternoon in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, it's crazy, right, But anyway, I really appreciate you
coming back. I know you're running for Senate in the
state of Tech And look, anytime any good people get
in the game, I think that's great, whether they're the
Republican or Democrat, I think it's terrific. But tell us
what made you choose to leave space and run in

(20:14):
these horrible circles.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah. People ask me, They're like, dude, you had a
great life, let's why are you doing this? And I
always tell them I lost a bet, all right, But
you know the reality is it's just things are not
going in a good direction. I don't think I think
most people would agree with me. You know, there's so
much craziness going on. The government is shut down. I

(20:38):
think it's time to have I call myself a common
sense Democrat. I'm all right, not a partisan guy at all.
I've been very critical of both parties, but I fear
for the country, tim I just I spent thirty years
in the Air Force to support and defend the Constitution
of the United States, And I honestly fear for the country.
I mean, like, normal democracies don't assemble all their generals

(21:01):
to get talked to by the president. It's it's not
something that normally happened.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I didn't think that was kind of amusing when
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm sure the generals did to it, you know, seeing
that picture of them, they looked really amused.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, they did. Look there, they're thrilled to be there.
They talked to like this. But but my god, So
who would you be running against?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Then?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Who is who would be your Republican counterpart?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
The seat is held by John Cornyn, who's been there
for twenty four years. This will be this will take
him into year thirty, into his eighties. Uh. And there's
another person by the name of Ken Paxton. He's our
attorney general. He's been indicted for corruption, he's been impeached.
Imagine that, imagine the Texas Republican House. So these are
not liberal guys. Impeached Ken Paxton, and he survived impeachment

(21:48):
by one vote. So that's so that's kind of the
quality of the quality of characters on the Republican side.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, John Cornyn is going to be a tough guy
to beat. He's very well liked in Texas.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, it's he's he. I agree, it'll be tough
to be but honestly, the Republicans hate him. They really
I've gotten some maxculinations from Republicans because I told him
I'm running it is Corny. Oh yeah, absolutely, he's not
Republican enough, you know either, I know, in there in
their minds. It's funny. He tweeted a picture of himself
reading the Art of the Deal and he said recommended,

(22:21):
which is just completely pitiful. When I'm seventy four years old.
If I do that, you can come, you know, slap me. Okay,
all right, I tweeted that, Yeah, go ahead. I was
good at Gavin Newsom. You know, he's been trolling, so
he came out with Art of the Troll. So I
tweeted a picture of myself reading Art of the Toll.
You know, quote quote tweeted to Corny and it was

(22:41):
pretty funny. Got a lot of views.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
All right, So let's get into some of the issues
then that you're going to have to deal with, you know,
while you're on the you know, on your way to Senate.
First of all, the big one is immigration. You know,
it's a huge, huge story out here. You see it
the news every single day. I don't think there's a
new station out here that doesn't include you know, two

(23:03):
or three stories every day about immigration. And the question
is what is the solution if somebody is in this
country illegally, what would you vote to do or not
to do?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, I was down on the border yesterday, actually was.
I did a town hall in the town of McCallan,
which is the Rio Grande Valley. So the first of all,
the first thing I'll say is that the Biden administration
was a disaster. They just let in way too many
illegal immigrants. And that's why Donald Trump's president today. One
of two or three reasons, I think, I believe. But
if you're here illegally, Look, if you're committing crimes, you

(23:37):
need to be gone or put in jail here. But
if you're not committing crimes and you're working, like there's
so many stories here in Houston, and you hear him
in La too. There was just a mom who's taking
her eighteen year old son who's got a scholarship. They
were dropping him off at college and Ice picked her
up and she's gone in one of these gulags. And

(23:58):
like the people who are building our houses are getting
rounded up from home depot, parking lot. And the problem
is we don't have enough houses in Texas. Houston has
a you know, ninety six percent capacity. We need to
build more houses. We shouldn't be sending away people who
are building our houses. We need more healthcare. It's too
expensive for shipping out our healthcare workers.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
And so all right, so your positions, as long as
you haven't committed a crime that you should be allowed
to say.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
We should not be incurring debt that our grandkids are
going to have to pay to round up people who
are building our it's just not practical. Well, first of all,
we can't. It's just never going to happen. And I
think there should be some type of guestworker program where
people can be legal, they can pay taxes, they don't
have to run and hide. I just listen to a
story of all of these American citizens you know that

(24:46):
are Hispanic, that have been rounded up by Ice. They
show on their real ID, you know, their state driver's license,
and they're rounded up for hours and held and it's
just like that doesn't happen in normal, healthy democracy. So
I'm again illegal immigration, so we have to be practical
about it too. And it's just there's a lot of
things that we should be spending money on, and deporting

(25:07):
housing workers and healthcare workers who are being good human
beings is not one of the things.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Okay, we should be incurring that for Hi, all right, Curl,
can you stay with us?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I can, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Colonel Terry Versus with US retired Air Force colonel NASA
astronaut and he's running for US Senate in the state
of Texas. He's gonna have a fundraiser. We'll ask him
about that when come back.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
As well.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
We're live on KFI following all the local news here.
There's an intersection that's blocked in Westwood. They're looking for
a murder suspect in Westwood as well. Carr has flown
into a Jewish school in bel Air. There's been a suspect.
It was named a couple weeks ago. But news is
just coming out about one of the two women that
were found in a car. Lots going on a lot

(25:52):
of breaking news.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
am six forty.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Colonel Harry Vertz is whether it's on the phone, colonel
in the US Air Force, also an astronaut, Colonel, I
got a question before we get back into politics.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I think I know your answer, but I'd like for
you to answer it as honestly as you can, because
I'm not a believer.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Did we land on the moon?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know, Cam, I think I was at nas I
was in the Air Force for thirty years. I think
NASAK is like just barely good enough plan on the Moon,
and they are nowhere near good enough to cover it up.
And we've got we've got satellite bit and they got
pictures of the landers, and they got pictures of the footprints,
and you know, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
That's the best answer I've ever heard, the best answer
I've ever heard. They're not good enough to cover it up.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Market. Mark that down on your calendar.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I get another question for you. You know, back when
we were doing I remember being a kid, you know,
nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy watching the Moon landing on
my parents' bed, on that big black and white Teevan.
I couldn't believe it because that night or you know
later that week we go out and we'd see the
moon and we can't believe that there were guys on
the moon. It was really a big time for the
United States. But I want to ask your question. I

(27:12):
guess there was nobody who was superstitious like the rest
of the country was. And they named an apollo Apollo thirteen,
and then there were problems on it. Didn't anybody think
maybe we could skip from twelve to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's like the hotels, you know, you never say I'm
the thirteen, right, Yeah, NASA was probably they're so scientific
and they're not superstitious that they probably actively made sure
they kept the number. I don't think that's why they
had that problem. Then frankly, they were very like they
were very close to losing that crew.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
So yeah, very close.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
By the way, one of the best people always asking
what are your favorite space movies? Apollo thirteen I think
is on the Mount Rushmore best ever space movies.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's a great movie. It's terrific, and I feel for
those guys. And when there's a portion there's a scene
in that movie where they say we've lost the moon,
and you can see that these guys have been dreaming
about it their whole life and they realize that they're
not going.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yep, and they didn't go back. You know that was
I mean, there wasn't a lot of moon flights, and
so you got one that was probably your one and only.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
All right, let's get back to politics here.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
You're going to be running against John Cornyn over there
in the great state of Texas.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Were you born and raised in Texas?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I was not. I was. I was born in Maryland.
But I've lived in Texas much longer than I've lived
anywhere else. I moved here twenty five years ago to
become a astronaut, and so I've never lived I've lived
in Asia and Europe and probably ten different states, but yeah,
I've been in Texas by far the longest.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Okay, you're going to get a lot of votes here
in California depending on how you answer the next question.
Are you a Houston Astros fan?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know votes and you know I can say this.
I was at twenty seventeen, I was at Game two
was really travene and I was at game took sitting
in the I almost got killed by your Dodgers fans.
And when I coached Little league I coached ten years
of kid boys and girls sports. One of the years
we were the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Oh, good for you, seven year old, little league. I
think you've answered that question. Hey, we have an air
show going out here on this weekend. It's going to
be Friday started and Sunday in Huntington Beach. It's gonna
be terrific. But it's a shame that you know that
we're we have this government shutdown. They were not going
to see the best aircraft in.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
The world, the F sixteen. Yeah. I know. Well, look
that's the least of the problems. I mean, there's so
many people out of work, there's government services not happening,
and then when they come back to work, they're going
to get paid, and so it's just a giant expense.
It's there's no benefit to this. I think we need
a constitutional amendment that if your party has the House,

(29:52):
the Senate, and the President and the government shuts down,
that you're all fired and we have snap elections to
replace them all. Wow. Okay, n there's my very quality
on that.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, that might be a little hard to press through Congress,
but you know, maybe it's a long shot. Let me
ask you something about getting back to the air show.
And I know you're a kernel in the Air Force.
What is the single best airplane that you have ever flown?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
F sixteen? So I was. I'm retired now, but yeah,
I was an F. The first is always your favorite, right,
And I got an F sixteen out of pilot training
and it's just the best airplane. The control stick is
on the right side and the throttles on the left,
and the seat is reclined at thirty degrees so when
you get in it, it just fits you like a glove. Wow.
And I got to the point where I couldn't you're

(30:40):
not moving the stick. You would just like think and
the control stick doesn't really move, and you put a
little pressure on it and the airplane responds, and the
canopy is this big, just piece of glass. There's no
metal bow. If you think of airplane fighter jets, there
there's always like a little metal bow in front of
the pilot that supports the cannaby. But the sixteen doesn't

(31:01):
have that. It's just a big tuppit. So it was awesome.
It was just a great airplane.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I mean, it must have been remarkable. And I'm sure
you remember this, like every pilot in the Air Force
or in the Navy does. But after your training is
done and you're flying that F sixteen solo, that is
a that is a really big day for you, I imagine,
and it's a huge you know trust that the that
the Air Force and the Navy puts in you to

(31:28):
say that we're trusting you with this forty or fifty
million dollar aircraft.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I was twenty one years old flying jets in the
Air Force. My first F sixteen, I was flying the
F sixteen solo. You know. I was qualified in the
F sixteen when I was twenty three years old. And yeah, look,
if there's any kids listening, the military gives you so
many opportunities to get so much responsibility. Now you know,

(31:55):
you don't want to screw it up. You might die.
We have you know, it's a dangerous thing flying jets,
but you just get so much leadership opportunity to do
really meaningful things at a young age. I grew so
much by being in the Air Force, so it was
a great It was a great experience for me.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
We used to have these I think F twenty two's
or F sixteen F eighteen's they used to fly into
Burbank every once in a while, like every you know,
four or five years, they'd come in and we lived
right over the flight path of Burbank, so they'd come
in and our whole house would shake, you know, our
entire the windows would shake, the car would shake, and
everybody in my house ran outside to look at it

(32:32):
and to see, you know, this beautiful aircraft. And then
I would go to I would find out from the
local you know, cops or you know.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Wherever it was in charge of these aircraft.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I would go and find out when those planes were
going to take off out of Burbank, and I'd go
sit there at the end of the runway for a
half hour or so. And my wife thought it was crazy,
but I'd sit there and want to physically watch one
of these things take off, and it was most entertaining.
You know, twenty seconds I've ever had my life, but
to take off almost vertically like that is something, you know,

(33:05):
you become so proud of this country that they were
able to put something like that with so much power
like that together. It was It's really a very patriotic
thing to go to an air show and to witness
a US power.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's the sound of freedom, as we used to say,
I think you're right. I got in so much trouble
on time I did a vertical takeoff. I was at
a pilot training base, and I thought the students would
think it was cool, but the colonel didn't think it
was very cool. As I was going straight up at
sixteen I was rolling a jet and he didn't like that.
I was a lieutenant. I didn't know any better, But
that's great. Nassa. We had T thirty eight so, which

(33:39):
are really cool. They're a supersonic training jet, kind of
like a little mini fighter. And when we fly to California,
which we did a lot for different training. Usually we
went to average Air Force base. You could fly to Lax,
but you're insane if you're flying to Lax and it's
in a little mini T thirty eight. Van Nis was
kind of the regular airport that i'd fly to. Burbank

(34:02):
I think had a sixty eight hundred foot runway and
you needed seven thousand feet in the T thirty eight.
Oh wow. I never flew into Burbank. Yeah, and seven
thousand feet is kind of you're pushing like the jet
takes a long takes a lot of runway to take off,
so be La was always exciting.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Isn't long beach or long runway is not a premiere
place to land and take.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Off Long beach too? Yep, that was one of our
one O our options.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Were you cleared as a pilot to land on an
aircraft carrier?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
No? I never did the Navy thing. I was a
air Force guy only right.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
And is that as special?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I mean in the in the Navy, when when you
are cleared to and to solo on you know, land
and take off on an aircraft carrier. How many guys
in the in the in the US Armed services have
that clearance, have have passed that test and can do that?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You know, I don't know how many Navy pilots there are.
There's probably thousands. I would guess did have that ability
like in the I think so.

Speaker 10 (35:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
In the air Force. He always said, if there's a war,
and like the way you win the wars by landing
on a boat with the US Navy would definitely be
able to win the war. But if you want bombs
on target or jets dot down, you want the US airport?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
What a smoke on the Navy.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I love the Navy. They're awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, all right, all right, let's talk about your fundraiser.
Where is it going to be one coming up here.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
In I'm going to be in LA not till November,
but in the short term. My website is terry verse
dot com. So t E R R Y V I
R T s. They can check out my launch video.
It kind of shows who I am. I'm uh running
as a reform candidate. Like so, I'm very critical of
both parties in my in my launch video. So terry

(35:47):
verse dot com is the best place to see that.
And it's a big Running for any political office is tough,
but man, Texas is he I had a I got
home at two in the morning last night from an
event and you know we were in Texas is a
big state in the political system here needs reform. I
can tell you that I've learned a lot in the
last six months I've been doing this.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Look, I'm not going to give anybody any tips on
how to win or lose, or how to run or anything.
But man, when you show up with that Air Force
jacket on, I guarantee you're going to get a lot
of a lot of votes from people like me.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I've been doing my stump speech. And last week I
got to an event up in the Dallas at Fort
Worth area and I said, you know, do you guys
want my stump speech or do you want to hear
space stories? And then every one thousand for everybody's like
space space space, I was like, I told a launch
story in a spacelfe and then at the very end,
I'm like, all right, we got a couple of minutes
and I just boom boom, but here's what I want

(36:41):
to do. This is what I'm these are my policies.
And then we REGI straight to Q and as that
was a lot more fun.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I wish you luck when you are in l A
doing a fundraiser. You always got a place here to
pop in.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I will let you know. All right, thanks very much.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
All right, Terry verts dot com appreciate it. Thanks Bob.
All right, there he goes. He's a kernel in the
US Air Force and he's an astronaut. He's also running
for Senate Terry vertz T E r R y v
I R T s dot com. That is a hell
of a guy. We're live on kf I AM six
forty Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Now

(37:17):
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