Rod and Greg Show: Inaugural Show - Greg's First Day!; Dem's Trying to Erase Kamala's Political History - The Rod & Greg Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes on a Monday, not a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're like schoolboy Greges. Today we'll refer to you as
citizen Greg Hughes is going to be school boy.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's a Wingman weekday. It's a Wingman weekday, it's every day, folks.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well this is brand new, folks. You'll get us Monday
through Friday right here on Utah's stock Radio one oh
five nine Canterrest. And boy, there is so much going on, Greg,
I don't know if we'll have I don't know if
we're going to have time to fit it all in today.
Well we will try. They're going to be easy.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
In preparation for today's show, Yes, we had the what
they called the Nike They had the japan stock market
crashed boom last night, well the night first time since
nineteen eighty seven, and you know the Black Tuesday from
eighty seven. On America's at stock market crash. Today they
had the Wholt trading for a while. Our our markets
have gone crazy and all in preparation for us to

(00:52):
explain it all, yeah, it's all, it's all. The timing
is perfect.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We are such experts on the stock market. Certainly you know,
and investors will want to listen to us because we're
going to explain what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I got two words, yes, Kamala crash.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Kamala crash. There you go, that's what That's what Trump
is calling it today. Well, it's going to be a
great show today. We're so so happy that you've joined
us here on our the launch of the Roden greg
Show on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine can ors.
We'll talk about that. You won't believe what Nancy Pelosi
thinks we should do about Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
But oh no, she wanted to get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
She ousted him, right, yeah, she ousted him, but now
she wants to honor them.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
She is.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
We'll talk about that a little bit later on. We're
going to talk about the Utah Supreme Court that abortion decision.
We've got a constitutional scholar who will be joining us
explaining why he thinks that is so dangerous and has
Donald Trump in any way changed since the assassination attempts
on his life.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
He's awesome, He's awesome, But yeah, he changed. I would argue, yes,
but I don't think you want to lose. You want
pony boy to stay golden Well, he's still golden boy.
He's he's Donald Trump all the way.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
All right, let's get in what happened on the market today,
the market ending the day down, the stock market down today,
one thousand and thirty four points. Na's deck was down,
you name it, everything was down. People are illugitiary. Now
others are arguing, Greg, this is typical in July and August,
you have a market correction.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Sure, I'm sure all these market crashes. A. That's just typical.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Now you might see downturns. You don't see and we
have not seen downturns like we're seeing right now. And
what's strange. They're not typical. But what's strange is it's
not an event, something that happened that ignited it all.
It's a I think it's a culmination of circumstances. It's
a job reports, it's the Fed not raising their rates,

(02:47):
it's it's lowering the race, not lowering their rates. But
it's it's also this idea that with all this Kamala exuberance,
whether it's just fight or not, the fear that she
could actually pull us off and pull us down. And further,
you have the Iran I thought countries are supposed to
surprise attack. I've never seen it, so you know, telegraphed before.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But apparently we're coming.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
There's an imminent attack from Iran to Israel. So a
lot of things happening kind of at the same time,
and you saw the markets react the way they did.
None of it. By the way, can you remove the
political climate I think in this country as being a
major contributor.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, you've got to look at investors now. The weekend
polls came out showing the race is very tight. Yes,
and we thought it would be right. I mean, we
warned you, we warned you. We never thought that Trump
was going to walk away with this, I think, but
coming out of the convention we felt a little more confident.
And I think we've come back down to earth a
little bit because there has been, as you've explained, Greg,

(03:46):
some exuberance out there among the Democrats. But as far
as the investors are concerned, they're looking at like you
just said, the prime rate is too high, not coming down.
The job report on Friday was was a I'm one
hundred and fourteen thousand jobs created something like that. It
was horrible. You've got the situation in the Middle East
right now, Okay, And with those polls tightening, investors are

(04:10):
looking at Kamala Harris and bodynamics, and she's going to
do two things, increase regulation and raise taxes.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
And investors don't like any of that.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And that, folks, is the establishment. That is the swamp.
That is what we're running against. I mean, we can
go ahead and get individualized. Whether it was Biden we
wanted to talk about, or it's Kamala today, it really
is these oligarchs of social engineering that create regulation and
raise taxes and tell you how you're going to live.
That is the establishment that Donald Trump is running against.
And just plug in the name, plug in the name

(04:41):
of Kamala, take her out. Put the next guy person
in the vice president nominee that I think will be
Pennsylvania Governor Shapiro. Same thing. They can have a little
differences on some of these political opinions, but that is
a system, that is a swamp that wants to socially
engineer your life, and their solutions all revolve around control. Yeah,
and that is what President Trump is fighting.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Again, ask the American people today, Greg, who do you
think would handle the economy better, Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, and you don't even have to guess. Just take
your four years when President Trump was president, and take
the last four years that Kamala is directly. It's let
me see if I can say, right, kamal Anomics, Kala kamalnomics,
kamal anomics, bid noomics. It's a little harder to say
has somewhere, you know, longer word, but it's the same thing.

(05:36):
There's no daylight between them. She defended it, she advanced it.
She said it was the you know, it was helping
people and making the life better. Those issues are the
ones that this entire election needs to be about. Those
substantive issues.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, let me take you back to December of twenty
twenty one. All right, someone asked, you'll love this. Someone
asked Kamala Harris, this was back in twenty two twenty one,
about the economy and what she would do and the
impact of inflation.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, let's start with this. Prices have gone up, and
families and individuals are dealing with the realities of that
bread costs more, that gas costs more, and we have

(06:25):
to understand what that means. That's about the cost of
living going up. That's about having to stress and stretch
limited resources. That's about a source of stress for families
that is not only economic, but is on a daily level,
something that is a heavy weight to carry. So it
is something that we take very seriously, very seriously, and

(06:49):
we know from the history of this issue in the
United States that when you see these prices go up,
it has a direct impact on the quality of life
for all people in our country.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it's a big issue. Yea, did she say anything
in that in that what was it fifty six second
town bite? Did she say anything that offered solutions ideas?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Not only that, but she's like if she's if she
wants to just keep repeating back that you know it's
bread's expensive, Well have you seen it? Since you didn't
do anything good about it. You did the Inflation Reduction Act,
which just printed more money, created a faster pace of
what was supposed to be transitory inflation, which has now
never left us. You don't even count food and gas

(07:32):
in the inflation numbers that are coming up. They don't conveniently,
or you'd see a fifty percent over the cumulative three
and a half years of how much our dollar has weakened,
and how hard it is to buy these things. But
that's your candidate, that's she's a student.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well she did not could I think she failed her
law exam, you know. But again she offers no solutions, Greg,
And this was three years ago. She's talking three years ago.
We know eggs have gone up, prices of bread have
gone up. How do you think they look three years ago?
I know, three years now, I mean later. It is
absolutely amazing. Now I asked a second ago if you

(08:08):
went to the American people right now and said, who
do you trust when it comes to running the economy? Right?
And we both agree it would be Donald Trump. Well,
Trump leads Kamala Harris when it comes to economic confidence
by leaps and bounds. You're ready for this, according to
polling by the Wall Street Journal. Now this was taken
July twenty third and twenty fifth, So what that's a

(08:29):
couple of weeks ago, right, Trump leads Harris on confidence
regarding the handling of the economy by twelve points. Trump
fifty two percent, Kamala forty percent. And Charlie Kirk points
out combined that with the fact that a New York
Times Siana College poll taken about the same time found
that a whopping fifty percent of Americans think economic conditions

(08:52):
are poor.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You know, are these just luxury issues and things to
debate or are these kitchen table that series and if
they're serious, Rod, I'm just curious. Do you think if
this global economic and market meltdown had happened prior to
them deciding to boot Biden and pick Kamala Harris, would
she be the one they'd pick? Right now? I don't

(09:14):
think she would because I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Think price of eggs and bread.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, we heard, we heard her whole economic viewpoint of which, Okay,
what's happened since? Ye?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah. Oh And by the way, just to add a
little insult to injury today for the White House, right
and the the this is bad news for the Harris campaign.
I mean there's no way around this, right, or the
Biden administration. Jeane Spurling, who is the top economic advisor
to the Biden White House today, yes, gave his notice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's like, yeah, it's not really going well this. Yeah,
it feels a little awkward in here. I just might
want to leave.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I'm just going to kind of slip out.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
What comes Director Cheato from the Secret Service. Didn't kind
of feel that same awkwardness.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, he turned in his notice today, folks,
I am out of here.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, this whole meltdown, boy didn't This wasn't part of
my script.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, no, it's not going on all right, it is
the uh lift off of the Rotten Greg Show right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canteris
so great to have you alive. You can congratulate Greg.
He showed up today with a brand new lunch pale
and a backpack. He was just he was just he
was just gitty. Yeah, great to be alive. Great to
be alive today with the Rotten Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, Canters. Now,

(10:32):
when we come back, Abraham Lincoln talking about.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
What it's like today. Interesting he's going to join us. Actually, no,
Abraham any while, I know you two are friends. Yeah,
way back.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh, thanks, appreciate that. School boys, all right, more coming
up here on the Rotten Greg Show on Talk Radio
one oh five nine. Canterrest.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's like the first day at school. I know we started.
I'm just so excited. I'm so excited to be here.
With you, rod thank you uh for you know, the
format and the opportunity. I think it's uh frankly, I
think the listeners deserve it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well. I had a couple of listeners over the weekend
come up with me and say, did you really have
to do that?

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Here?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I will say that the way you announced it, by
really saying you're landing and finishing the rod Chet show,
it's it did create panic. And you didn't even run
with that narrative for very long. But I saw it
on social media people like, no, roder Kat's going to
be gone. But then you you came up with you know,
you followed that up with the show.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, well your good friend acknowledged that congratulated you over
the weekend.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Spencer Cox, You're right, I was nice to together noticed
that he sent nice and he sent a nice Uh
didn't think I appreciate anymore. I didn't think so, Yeah,
well you know he did. That's nice though it was,
it was nice. I did I appreciate it, all right,
He's got a lot of things going. I was surprised

(11:54):
you even you know, heard.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Abraham Lincoln, who I did not go to school with.
By the way, I know you insinuated that before.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
The break anyway, I said, it's a fact.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, you just said that. Apparently he had a warning
for our times in which we're living today, which I
mentioned before we came on this show. I'm afraid at
some point, Greg, all, hell's going to break loose. I
really am.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm a little nervous. I tend to agree with you.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, but he had a warning for us way back
when when Abe and I went to school, and joining
us on our Newsmaker line to talk about that right
now is our next guest. His name is Justin Collins,
a professor of BYU Law School. Joining us on our
Newsmaker line, Justin, how are you welcome to the first
show of the Rotten Greg Show on Talk Radio one
oh five nine knrs. Thank you for having me, Justin.

(12:44):
What about Lincoln's warning? What was he warning us about?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Justin?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Well, I guess it's fair to say he wasn't warning us.
He was thinking in eighteen thirty eight about his own
time and the challenges that he that he saw then.
But I think they have a kind of haunting relevance
for us today. So Lincoln was concerned about a couple
of things and now remember in eighteen thirty eight. He's

(13:11):
a very young man. He gave this speech to the
Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois in January of eighteen
thirty eight, so he hadn't yet had his twenty ninth birthday,
and this was one of the first major public speeches
of his career. It's the first speech he gave that's
assumed a kind of immortality that we still remember and

(13:32):
still look at today, although it's not nearly as famous
as the speech as he gave, of course during the
Lincoln Douglas debates or during the Civil War. But he
was concerned about what he referred to his mob rule.
He was worried that his fellow Americans were declining in

(13:53):
their allegiance to the Constitution, in their devotion to the
rule of law.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
And he saw concerning.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Willingness and an increasing willingness of people to take the
law into their own hands, to not worry about the
established laws or the court system, but to do whatever
it took, even when that involved political violence, to take
matters into their own hands. One of the things he

(14:24):
warned about in the speech as what in that era
was known as demagoguery. I warned about demagogues, people who
were willing to appeal to people's passions to manipulate them
toward their own political ends. And one of the things
he said was, you know, but at this point the

(14:47):
constitution had been in force for about fifty years, almost
exactly fifty years. And he said, for the founding generation,
you could secure mortality by establishing a constitution, by creating
a new nation, But there wasn't the same kind of

(15:09):
glory to be won simply by maintaining what had already
been established. And he warned people that there are going
to be people who are highly ambitious and without scruple.
And I think he said in the speech The Towering
Genius the Stains of Beaten Path, that there are people
who are going to try to win glory by tearing

(15:30):
down rather than by simply maintaining what had already been established.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So I love the article. I'm intrigued by this premise,
But I keep trying to look back at myself and say, well,
do I fall into the uber partisan class or am
I attacking established institutions that are being warned about by
a young Abraham Lincoln. I guess my question is one
of the topics that we're going to, I think on
the show today discuss is the Huntington Beach City count

(16:00):
on Mayor I want to have an ordinance that would
that would defy the state law that's just passed that
would force teachers to hide from a parent the gender
identification issues that a child may be experiencing in the school,
and the city wants to pass an ordinance that says
that they're not going to follow that. That could be,
as you described, attacking established institutions, or being uber partisan,

(16:23):
or even the weaponization perceived a reel of law enforcement
that goes after it looks like political opponents. Is the
objection to those things and the acts of a Huntington
Beach are they? Is that the uber partisanship you're talking
about or the attacking of institutions?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
So I don't know as much about this particular instance.
But the challenge isn't that people have different ideas about
the right response to this policy question. We've always had
different ideas, and they've always been intensely held. The challenges
in saying is the increasing willingness that I see of

(17:02):
people to say or to believe that the other side
poses such a threat, such an existential threat, that opposing
them doesn't require that I oppose them through ordinary political channels.
And I don't know a lot about California constitutional law,
but I assume it's a basic tenet that a state

(17:23):
law trumps a local ordinance. Yeah, and that a locality
shouldn't be in the business of defying state authority. If
you don't like the state laws, then you get engaged
in state politics and you try to influence legislators, and
you do the ordinary work of politics. And just from
the little that you said, this sounds like a case

(17:44):
of a local entity saying the state law is so
wrong that I don't need to follow the rule of law,
that we can buy that and step outside ordinary legal procedures.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Justin, I am not a big fan of, you know,
observers of what's going on in this country calling those
on the left or the right extremists. I think what
they're talking about are people who are very engaged in
trying to change things, and they, you know, they dedicate
a lot of their time being engaged to finding out
what's going on and speaking out. Am I wrong on that? Justin?

(18:19):
Because I like the term engaged instead of the term extremists.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Well, I think there's a part of the challenge I
see as a general rhetorical escalation, and this might.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Be part of that.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
And I think it's important to make a distinction that
I wouldn't suggest. I don't think Lincoln would have ever
suggest that there was a problem with having very strong
views and getting very active and promoting those views. That's
what a constitutional republic is all about. The And you know,
there's a sense also that you can be an extremist

(18:56):
and that means that you have strong views on one side,
and that to be a moderatist kind of lump along
in the middle.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Of the road.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
But I think there's a great scholar named and think
her name, you've Alvin has just published a wonderful book
about the Constitution called American Covenant, and he makes the
wonderful point that a moderate isn't somebody who has a
certain set of views. It's it's somebody who engages with
the other side in a certain way. A moderate is

(19:24):
somebody who thinks the other side is worth trying to
persuade and treats them as somebody who's worthy of respect.
And if you're trying to persuade them. Then you're going
to look for some measure of common ground, and there's
going to be some disposition toward accommodation. It doesn't mean
that you don't have strong views or even what some
might call extreme views, but it means you're willing to

(19:45):
engage the other side rather than simply appealing to the
to the passions or instincts of your own side.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Justin, thanks for joining us. We appreciate a few minutes
of your time today.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Thank you with you.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's Justin Collins. He is a have to b WHYU
law school talking about a warning from Abraham Lincoln many
many years ago. And no I was not around for that.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
You keep on insinuating that he said, well he wasn't
talking to us. Well he might have been talking to Rod.
Yeah that's what.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, all right. More coming out on the launch of
the Rotten Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Canterrest all the mere gene media want to just fawn
over someone they didn't like. What sixty days ago they
couldn't stand the woman. Now they all just can't believe
how great she is. And I've heard from some of
my conservative friends or are just people that are worried
that she's gonna is really going to take get some traction.
And the polls have gotten certainly closer, but not so fast.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah. Yeah, Well the thing about this, Greg is, and
this is a question that Tom Cotton now will air
this SoundBite here in just a minute. Nobody has been
able to ask her a question as of yet. Right, yeah,
she hasn't done an interview, she hasn't done a press
conference at all, ads of yet. I don't think the
Democrats care. They will. They're playing the Biden game right now.

(21:00):
Hider let her speak to large crowds, have gatherings, but
just hider because they know. And she showed an example
of this over the weekend when they welcome the hostages back,
she tossed out another word salad about the power of
diplomacy and.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Powerful and diplomatic.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, it's very powerful and diplomatic. Yeah, that's what powerful
diplomacy is all about. So they're going to hide her.
They don't care. They'll take the criticism. You know. The
debate now is between over the debates, and I think
Trump is backed out of the September seventh debate. He's
fine he's proposed one with Fox News. She's declining that
I don't think the Democrats care if she talks to

(21:38):
the media. That way they can protect her and create
this image about her. You know, it's irrational exuberance. The
question is how long is that irrational exuberance going to last?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, I will tell you this. It's been my observation
over the years and presidential campaigns that you get a
bump when you get when you get a convention, and
so those are the traditional bumps that we see. I
think that there was a lot of excitement coming out
of the Republican National Committee convention in Milwaukee. They get
two bumps with Kamala because they had the replacement of
Biden and everybody was, you know, worried that he was

(22:12):
not able to run a race. And I'd said it
for a long time. I never thought he'd be the
nominee towards the end, you know, by November. Uh So
they got a little bump there, which again, let's never
let them tell us that they're fighting for democracy when
not a single soul as ever voter to her, whoever
her running mate will be, has never happened. So they
don't get to share that ironic lie again. But they're

(22:34):
going to get another one, Folks, You're going to see
another bump that's going to be a bague old propaganda
machine on that convention where they're going to push out
someone you've never met before, we've never seen before, this
new Kamala that they're gonna they're gonna push out there,
and I think we just for the summer months, we
just got to be ready for that. But at some
point they can try to hide her in the basement,
but it's not gonna it's it's not you can do

(22:55):
that for a while, but she is going to have
to face this media and answer some questions at some point.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You think, I do I do?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I Look, you can do the Biden basement campaign, but
you've got to come out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Joe Biden never answered any questions.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
In the first one, but I think they knew that
someone was going to have to be a little more
engaged in the second time around. But they look, as
much as they can avoid it, they're going to try.
But I just don't think that that what you're going
to see by way of all of this excitement from
you know, the regime media and people Democrats. I don't
know that it's going to hold.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah. Well, here's David axel Rod, Now, David axel Rod
was a top advisor to former President Barack Obama, on
CNN this weekend talking about this irrational exuberant You know, there's.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
A lot of irrational exuberance on the side of on
the Democratic side of the aisle right now, because there
was despair for some period of time about what the
November was going to look like. Now people feel like
there's a chance. But it is absolutely Trump's raised to lose.
Right now, he is ahead, and he is ahead most
of the battleground states. They're close, they could be by

(24:00):
either candidate. But there's a lot to be determined in
the next ninety whatever day's ninety six or whatever it
is left. So yeah, I think it's a wide open race.
But Trump has the advantage right now. Nobody should nobody
should be nobody should be everybody should be sober about
that on the Democratic side.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And I think on the Republican side, this is going
to be a tight rights greg and I really think
it is now. I want to go back to what
I had said earlier. She has not held a news
conference yet she's really not sat down and done a
one on one interview with any of the key people.
And Tom Cotton, the Center from Arkansas, was unfazed the nation,
and he brought that up and said, sooner or later,

(24:41):
like you predicted, she's got to answer some questions.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
She's only been the nominee for two weeks now. She
hasn't answered a single question, not one single question by
the media, and she's only had one single unscripted moment
Thursday night at Andrews Air Force Base welcoming this hostage back,
and she served up the kind of incomprehensible word salad
for what she's become famous. When she has to encounter

(25:04):
the media, and I'm sure you're going to insist that
she does, she's going to have to answer for things
like why she wants to eliminate oil and gas production
this country, why she wants to ban gas powered cars,
why she wants to confiscate private firearms. So we knew
this race was going to be closed all along, whoever
the Democrats wanted to put up against President Trump. But
Kamala Harris has only been the nominee for two weeks

(25:25):
and hasn't answered a single question when the American people
get a better look at her and her radical positions,
I think you're going to see that they don't want
her to continue the Biden Harris legacy.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just think Greg they're going to hide her. They
are going to hide her for as long as they possibility.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And they would be the smartest thing they'd ever do.
But where I disagree with Center Cotton is this, don't
ask her what she wants to do going forward again,
take Bidenomics and tether it to Kamala nomics. I mean,
she cannot get away from the last four years. This
disastrous record that they have created, and they together have
built it is her record. She doesn't get to tell you,

(26:03):
you know, prospectively what she would do. She needs to
answer for what's going on in this country and frankly
even the world right now on her watch. That is
where she is really going to be held to it.
And if she wants to hide when those questions come up,
that's not going to bode well.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And she constantly is talking about the future, right, well,
what's your plan for the future. She hadn't said anything
about that because she doesn't have a plan for the future.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
What I'm seeing and I know we got to go
to a break, but what I'm seeing right now one
of the areas where you're seeing back in sixteen and twenty,
Trump was never head in any polls. So the fact
that he's ahead and Poles, you got to put a
lot of stock in that because you couldn't get the
shy Trump vote to say where they were before, and
you're seeing him leading in the polls. The small and
I mean small tick up that Kamala has enjoyed really

(26:48):
I see coming from the excitement. There were only eighty
one percent of Democrats that can vote say they planned
to vote because they didn't really Biden wasn't doing it
for him. They can't vote for Trump, They're not going
to do it. That number's gone from eighty one to
eighty five percent. Okay, so there you go, big bum
And if you take that four percent, that's the difference
you're seeing in the polls right now, which is not
a big game changer.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
More of the Roden Gregg Show coming up right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arrest
many people know angered by Israel's war in Gaza. They've
increasingly targeted Josh Shapiro, the Democratic governor out of Pennsylvania
who is Jewish over his stances. John Fetterman also Flagg
concerns about Shapiro to the team. The left wing of

(27:30):
the party is pushing for Minnesota Governor Tim Walltz to
be on Harris's pick. So this is this is going
to get real interesting in looking for what direction she
goes in. Greg. I mean, and you're from Pennsylvania, you
know quite a bit about Josh Shapiro.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I do, and I've watched him, and I got to
tell you that he is, without a doubt, on paper,
the strongest running mate that Kamala Harris could pick easily.
I mean, Pennsylvania is that strong. It's I think it's
nineteen electoral votes. His handling of the of the attempted
assass nation in Butler, Pennsylvania was as a statesman. He
was he received a call from the man who has

(28:05):
killed his wife where she would not speak with Billboard Biden,
and he's he's been pro more natural resources and Kamala
has there's a lot of political wighing where he's a
little bit more to the right of Kamala Harris. All
that looks great on paper, okay, and it's certainly I'm
reading articles where in Pennsylvania, if you looked at the

(28:27):
state by itself, it's a no brainer that that's who
you'd pick. And by the way, they're going to have
their announcement after with the new pick who they're not
saying it is in Philadelphia, PA. So if that doesn't
signal who it is, I don't know what does. But
here's their problem. This is the bigger problem. There's a
lot of anti Semitism inside that party. There's a lot
of pro terrorists, pro Hamas, pro Palestinians who planned to

(28:50):
be front and center at that that convention. They planned
to protest, they planned to be there. They're already complaining
that they're being intimidated. Democrats respond by saying, we're gonna
let We're gonna protect your right, your first moment, right
to speech, and you're gonna be able to speak. Wes
this you know what their speech is? No genocide Josh, Yeah, okay.
They are going to come after Josh Shapiro as a Jew,
and no, my goodness, they can have one of those

(29:12):
on the ticket. They're gonna make this out, they're gonna
make it feel wrong. They're gonna make everyone feel uncomfortable.
And while that's not going to harm him necessarily in Pennsylvania,
Michigan could respond negatively towards a Josh Shapiro, a candasy
or eat in Minnesota or even the states they want
to win over just the debate that that party's going

(29:33):
to have to have amongst themselves about the role of
a Jewish uh as someone that's Jewish on the ticket
is going to make the Democrats look weak as water.
It's not going to make them look like they're moral
leaders in this nation because they're going to have a
lot of controversy but with their with their nominee that
they shouldn't have. But that's that's the state of the
Democrat Party today.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Can the power brokers shut up the anti Semitists in
the party? Can they shut it up because they're going
to have to.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
The media is going to do its level us to
hide it. You better believe that. But it's going to
be They're going to be out there and they're going
to show a Democrat Party that America is not going
to be very excited about.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
By the way, folks, if you weren't listening when we
started the show today, Greg Hughes came in like a
giddy little school boy or school girl. School kid made
school kid. He had a lunch payoff. Yes, had a
metal I didn't think they made those anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Well, my kids had it, so my kids, well of
my kids are adults now, but I found it. He
had four bottles of red Bull in there, hands of
red Bull, red Bull. That's that's a that's a lunch
of champions.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
He had a backpack, backpack, he just you know, the.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Great.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I got my glasses on, got a haircut.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Did you get a haircut? You got a haircut? Show?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I got a hairw I tucked in my shirt,
I did. I'm wearing my shirt, a T shirt. And shit,
I've never seen you look so slovenly. And all the
years we've been doing this, I've never seen you dress
down like this. This is the first I've never can
you and a T shirt?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes you have?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
What are you trying to say that?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm more relaxed than up comfortable? And it's hot outside,
yes you get that right.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
So exciting, so exciting, ladies and gentlemen, to be here
on a Monday, not just a Wednesday, but a Tuesday,
and Wednesday, Thursday.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Friday, and then we'll see if we go on after Friday. See,
all right, a big decision by the Utah Supreme Court
last week and really upset state lawmakers. We're talking about
the abortion ruling. The court handed down the decision in
this ongoing case on the state's law banning elective abortions.
It allowed an injunction blocking the law to continuing. Greg

(31:37):
you talked about this when it was handed down. There's
some real constitutional issues here, aren't there.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's really frustrating and I'm really looking forward to the
discussion because i don't know where the Supreme Court, our
state Supreme Court is going with this. When you have
a Dobbs decisions, Why are us Supreme Court when you
had a trigger law ready to go in the state
in state and it's a state decision. What in our
state constitution did find at a time when that constitution

(32:02):
was drafted and they're an abortion was not legal that
somehow thinks it gives this a standing in a lower
court to continue on. Lawmakers are upset. But if the
people in this state new the details of this decision,
it's outrageous. Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Let's take into this little bit more of their good
friend Bill Duncan, director of the Center for Family and
Society at the Sutherland Institute. Bill, how are you welcome
to the inaugural show of the Roddy Gregg Show on
Talk Radio one oh five nine. Ken Harris, how are you,
Bill good? How are you both? We're doing well. Bill.
What constitutional issues do you really have when you look

(32:40):
at this ruling from the Utah Supreme Court?

Speaker 10 (32:44):
Well, you've already mentioned kind of the key one. It
has to do with separation of powers. The legislature is
the body that the Constitution designates to make laws on
these issues, and they've done that. The people of the
state also have the responsibility to make the law, and
they did that by enacting in constitution which doesn't create

(33:04):
a right to an abortion. So in a way, there's
a concern that we're really having a discussion about something
that is really foreclosed by the text of the Constitution.
And Greg asked about where does it come from that
supposedly there is some kind of right that would justify

(33:25):
allowing courts to prevent the state from enforcing its laws.
And the answer is not the text of the Constitution.
It's we were not entirely clear, because the opinion from
the court is still kind of kind of like their
first shot at it, and there will have to be
additional hearings and things. But the worrisome part of the

(33:48):
published opinion is that it seems to suggest that courts
might see some kind of like unwritten, a kind of
living constitution behind the actual text that could just to
fight judges as opposed to legislators or the people themselves
to determine this issue.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So let me ask you, mister, you're a court watcher,
I imagine you are. This seems to be a shift.
We had a decision on an initiative law that was
in redistricting that was a surprise to many, at least
those of my friends that I used to serve within
the legislature in terms of that separation of powers and
where are these where these things go? Now you have
this abortion decision, do you see a shift in in

(34:30):
this State Supreme Court in terms of their temperance and
how they're looking at the cases in front of them.

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Well, it's hard to tell with only those two data points,
but both cases are quite similar in the sense that
both are are are leaning.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
On kind of.

Speaker 10 (34:51):
Even though they claim to be sort of applying the
principle of the understanding of the Constitution, the which really
should be the original public meaning of the Constitution. They
seem to be saying, well, but you know, but courts
might have a role to kind of look behind the

(35:13):
actual law to see if there's some kind of meta
principle behind that that then we could apply. In course,
this is this is what the US Supreme Court rejected
decisively in the Dobs case. You know that you can't say, oh, well,
you know, even though the constitution US Constitution doesn't provide
a right to abortion, we think it's still there because

(35:34):
we you know, the spirit of the Constitution gives judges
the right to advance principles that the people didn't think
to put in that kind of thing. And now, again
these are both initial decisions, and the court could walk
them back or what that reasoning back. But at this
point it is somewhat surprising to see the court that's
typically been pretty pretty careful to stick to the actual

(35:58):
text or the you know, clear applied history of the
of the Constitution as the only way to interpret it.
So so so it may signal that there is a shift.
But again, the you know, optimistically, hopefully the court will
just say, well, you know, we've given the lower courts
a chance to wrestle with this, but you know that

(36:20):
there's there's nothing there in the constitutional text or history
really allows for this.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well, I heard one critic of this decision say to them,
it appears that the Utah Supreme Court is becoming more
like lawmakers instead of jurists and justices. Do you see
that taking place with these last two rulings Bill, that's
the concern.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
The nature of the nature of a constitution, especially a
written constitution like ours, is that you have to take
the wording seriously. And the wording says that the legislative
power is given to the legislature. What is what is
the legislative power. It's the ability to make laws on

(37:02):
any topic that's not foreclosed by the constitution. Of course,
the constitution limits the legislature, doesn't allow them to take
away people's freedoms in specific ways. But when a court says, well,
even though the constitution doesn't specifically allow for this, or
even though the history of the way that the state's

(37:22):
laws have always been applied doesn't allow for this, we
can do so, then of course it starts to look
a lot like what we expect legislators to do, which
is to decide, you know, what kind of regulation should
there be an abortion? Can we amend the state constitution?
I'm sorry, can we amend a law that's passed in

(37:42):
a previous, valid initiative like the one in the recent
case or prior law? And when there's not a very
clear constitutional directive to do that, that's exactly the kind
of thing that the legislature reserves the power that the
constitution reserves to the legislature power to do. So that's

(38:05):
you've hit on the exact concern that I think many
people see as they read these opinions.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
So here's here's my question. Having been a member of
the legislative branch, so you know, jealously guarding the protections
and the checks and balances, so has where has if
we have a court that would be to the left
of the US Supreme Court in terms of Dodd, and
it would now imagine protections that don't we're never articulated

(38:32):
in our state constitution. What have we in hindsight being
twenty twenty, have we not seen a state Senate who
has vetted these candidates for these judicial appointments thoroughly enough.
Maybe because the governor is from the same party as
the Senate. How did we get here? I find it
amazing that where I've seen this process work relatively as

(38:54):
you would imagine, and I think better than you've seen
it nationally, we're at a place where we're seeing activism.
In my mind, is there a better vetting that the
Senate should be doing to these nominees going forward?

Speaker 10 (39:06):
Now?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Looking at what we know.

Speaker 10 (39:09):
Well that that is one of the key constitutional roles
of the Senate is to do exactly that. I mean,
it's not surprising. In quite a few states. I think
it's about twenty if I remember right, they have elections
for judges, and so you know, these issues are decided
in you know, a way that kind of at least

(39:31):
allows for a little more accountability even you know, for
how the judges do the constitution? Are they willing to
do the job that the Constitution gives them? But in Utah,
like the federal government, that role is delegated to the
people's representatives to fulfill. And of course, you know a
lot of you always want to think best of people

(39:53):
who are nominated and think, well, they'll do a great job,
and there's no reason to think otherwise. And I hope
that's the case here as well. But but you're right, it's
going to be important to determine what's the philosophy of
judges about about their role. How do they interpret the constitution?

(40:13):
What if they you know, maybe personally think the law
would go come down this way, but the constitution doesn't
allow for that, or other laws doesn't allow for that.
Can they can they say? Well, you know, even though
I might vote a different way if I were in
the legislature or as citizen, I'm a judge and I
don't have that authority to do that. Those are the
kinds of things that I think it's important for the people,

(40:36):
either you know, in whatever way that they exercise that
in Utah through their representatives, to figure out how do
they come down on those issues. And it's not wrong
to say if a judge is unwilling to take on
that responsibility the constitution gives them to apply the written
laws and not to make new ones, then that person.

(40:58):
You know, there's there's other other ways I think can
contribute other than being you know the chans.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, Bill is always gret chatting with you. Thanks, for
a few minutes of your time this afternoon. Bill, thanks
so much. All right, that's Bill Duncan. It's constitutional law,
religious freedom fellow at the Sutlan Institute talking about the
Supreme Court. Greg, and like the Boundary Commission, there were
some very upset lawmakers when this abortion case came down
last week, very upset because I know you spoke with

(41:26):
some of them.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
They were made and I'll tell you when the public
finds out the details of these decisions, it'll be more
than the legislature that's angry.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's for sure. All Right. More coming up on the
Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine, Kate and rs our second hour
of this show, just rolling right along, rolling right along, right, Well,
isn't it amazing? Greg? And I you just see this
all the time, how the liberal media, the legacy media
in this country, wants to latch onto something that most

(41:54):
people really don't care about, right yep. Donald Trump last week?
Of course, the liberal media, you know, they want to
make Trump's comment about Kamala Harris's race a significant point. Okay,
there's a big that's a big issue to a lot
of Americans, right, Greg, yep, no, no, it's one. No, No,
it's not a big issue.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Well it isn't, but it's a big issue in that
they're making it that. And we've actually dissected this, I
think in real time pretty well. We jumped on this
when this happened, because it was wing Man Wednesday when
this thing came out.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
And she called herself, yes, the first Indian the US.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
These leftists have been doing this identity politics and diving
into this topic ad nauseum for a long time, since
back in twenty twenty, and all of a sudden, it's
it's pearl clutching by Stephanoppolos and everybody else.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yes, well, I love what Byron Donald's he is, and
he is he's a sharp congressman from the state of Florida.
He decided to go on this Week with George snuff
Alufkis and decided to take don old Snuffy on this
whole question. Listen to this exchange. I think you're going
to enjoy this. And you just repeated the slur again.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
If it doesn't matter, why do you all keep questioning
her identity. She's always identified as a black woman, she
is biracial, she has a Jamaican father and Indian mother.
She's always identified as both. Why are you questioning that?

Speaker 9 (43:13):
Well, George, First of all, this is something that's actually
a conversation throughout social media right now. There are a
lot of people who are trying to figure this out.
But again, that's a side issue, not the main issue.
The main issue, sir.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
One second.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So you just did it.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
You just did it.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Again of the United States. Why do you.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Why do you questioning her racial identity?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
You want me to talk.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I want you to answer my question.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
George, George, now that you're done yelling at me, let
me answer. He talked about it on the stage yesterday
in Atlanta for what two minutes? He spent more than
thirty five to forty minutes going after her record, talking
about how radical of a senator that she was. She
was the most liberal senator in the United States as
in the United.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
States Senate, that is a fact.

Speaker 9 (43:55):
He talked about the job that she did as Vice
President of the United States, a job, I will add,
which has been.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
A failure for the American people.

Speaker 9 (44:03):
I know you guys like to glom on to this
that he talks about in jest or in a serious manner.
For about a minute or so. But what you do
not cover is the litany of failures of Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I love that. You know, the media goes after the
race question right, which Byron Donald's was correct. It took
about two minutes, and the media tried to keep on
bringing it back. He didn't want to talk about it anymore.
He made his point. He wanted to talk about the
real issues. And that's Kamala's horrible, progressive, dangerous record.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
And it's so true. And I'll tell you what, you
know what it reminds me of what I so back
in sixteen when Trump came here and he was running
for the first time and there was a big rally here.
He wanted to make a quip. He wanted to make
a joke, and he was kind of teasing Mitt Rommiey yeah, okay,
And he was saying, you know, because Mitt Romney had
said he shouldn't win, he said some terrible things about
in sixteen, and Trumpet had endorsed him when he ran

(44:56):
in twelve, so he felt a little hurt by a
bitty He said, you're so nice. I know all these
Mormons and they're also nice. My accountant, he used to
ask me to take his tithing out of his paycheck.
I'd do it all the time. They're also nice, Are
you sure that Mitt Romney's a Mormon? Everybody just laughed, right, yeah,
But you know what the media wanted to and he
went on that was just one quip he had made
in Salt Lake City. But he went on to talk

(45:16):
about America and about jobs and about everything. But all
the media wanted to talk about was Trump's questioning Romney's faith,
and that's all they wanted to talk about. And it
was a joke. But in this case, where it's the
black journalists in the National Association of Black Journalists, he
was just parroting what they themselves, what people have been
discussing since twenty in terms of identity politics, and saying

(45:39):
what I mean, which is it? I don't know, but
it was. It was a small portion of a much
much larger, larger discussion of which the media and George Stephanopolis,
they don't want to talk forty five minutes about her record.
They want to talk about the two minutes on that topic.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
They spent all weekend on the various weekend talk shows,
Greg talking about this all weekend, talking about this American
people do not care. No, they do not care. Trump
made his comment. It's backed up if you look as
show how she identified herself. Stephanopoulos is lying here. He said,

(46:13):
she's always identified herself as a black America. You played
the clip, We played the clip last week. No, she hasn't.
And George, your line yet, you want the media to
focus on this little, itsy bitsy comment that Donald Trump
made and not the rest of his cous where he
was just slamming comments.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Is the yes and and Rod. It's their playbook. We
gotta get. It's got to be seen as nothing but
another ploy. This is what Russian uh, you know, him
being a Russian plan and a Russian asset for his
entire you know, presidency last you know when he ran
or when he was when he was elected, he had
four years where he's under constant siege over things that
are contrived, over things that are made up to get

(46:54):
away from the real issues, in the real progress he
was making in this campaign. They're going to take like
they did Evance, you know, childless cat lady. It was
a it was a it was equip that they have
made into the biggest five alarm fire. You've ever heard
in its nonsense. It has no substance to it. And
for a media that wants to talk about substance, they
ought to just they really can't and they know they can't.

(47:15):
So they got to try to work on emotion and hyperbole.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Focus on what's going on on the market today and
the role that Biden economic plan has in that. That's
what they should try to explain to the American people.
They won't touch.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
They will not They're going to talk about descent and
you know, you know instead of the kitchen table issues
that America wants to talk about.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, they won't talk about cat ladies.

Speaker 12 (47:37):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
All right, more coming up Rod on Greg with you
right here on you Talk Radio one oh five nine
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Speaker 1 (47:44):
Celeste Malloy and the recount recount numbers I believe.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Are official or counties.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It did not change the outcome of the election, but
it did narrow the margin of victory. Out of one
hundred and seven thousand votes cast in the second district
for that race between Celus molloy and Kobe Jenkins, they
narrow the margin of victory is now to one hundred
and seventy six votes, not two hundred and fourteen to
get that. That doesn't mean the only votes counted that

(48:11):
were new were those that reduced it. There were a
lot of votes that were not tabulated in the in
the machines that were what they call adjudicated. There was
some software issues found by county clerks in this recount.
And while Celes molloy Congresswoman slus Moy wins, I think
it does bring up some real questions. People were very
critical that a recount would even occur, that it was unnecessary.

(48:33):
But it's is revealed some concerning issues about the voting machines,
that software and how it's tabulating the votes.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
But doesn't he have a case before the Utah Supreme
Court to go back and look at those cases or
has that been tossed up.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
That's a different case, right, that's a difference. So that
is a case in front of the Supreme Court. That's saying, look,
we have we have ballots that were stamped time stamped
in Las Vegas, and those time stamps have been delayed.
Those timestamps that were not timely. Has been said by
the US Postal Service themselves that you will get a
day of if you put it in the mail and
it gets picked up that day, you'll get counted the

(49:09):
day of. There's even some cases I hear where you
have some that look like they would have had that stamp,
but the Las Vegas stamp came over top of it.
I think if you're down to one hundred and seventy
six votes out of one hundred and seven thousand casts,
if there is a question about when those postmarks were
there and the voter did adhere to the law, I
think that votes ont account.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Well, this points out to me again, Greg, And you've
heard people say this before. Oh, I'm not going to vote.
My vote doesn't count. It's races like this where it does.
So if you ever hear anybody say, you know, I'm
not going to vote, my vote doesn't really count, Yes
it does. It does ever assume that it's not going
to count.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
And I have heard too many times that there is
not one thing wrong with our vote by mail system.
It is absolutely fine. It is a barber approach. It's
the best in the country. Well, if it had not
been for a two hundred and fourteen vote margin of
victory and a recount, we wouldn't know that there were
legitimate issues with the software that counts these votes, and
I think that that's information worth understanding and no and

(50:11):
finding a finding solutions around it. I frankly don't believe
that the state of Nevada or the US Postal Service
ought to be administering or be in charge of administering
or Utah elections. It seems a bit much to me.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
My guess is lawmakers may do something about that come January,
but will wait and see. All Right, we wanted to
bring you up to speed on that, but before we
did that, we were talking about what's going on with
Kamala Harris. You know, the media loves to talk about
the race question that Donald Trump throughout last week. I
think it was a very legitimate question to ask, and

(50:44):
we've examined that for you. But there are other issues.
You know, the she has not renounced yet, Greg a
single radical position that she has taken. She has not
come out now her staff has and said, well, she's
really not opposed to fracking, but she hasn't said that
as of yet, she had any No, he's not required
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight

(51:06):
eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero. How
concerned are you about her race how concerned are you
about her very progressive stands that she is not responding to.
Let's go to the phones. Jerome is in Leyton tonight
here on the Roden Gregg Show. Hi Jerome, how are you?

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Oh? I'm fine? Uh. I recall a few weeks ago
that there is a discussion about uh Tamila Harris and
she tried to jump on the uh oh preparations bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (51:41):
Yeah, Well, somebody in the Harris family says, wait a minute,
some of our ancestors used to be older. Let's see
how she answers that one.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, that's going to be awkward. Now it'll be all
you're talking about race again. You're talking about our slaveholding
family members. That's rude.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, well't She has got so much to answer for,
And I contend Greg the Democrats are going to hide her,
protect her. They're going to pull a Biden in the
basement and they're going to try and hide her.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
They are going to try. If we can stay focused
on the demolition that has gone on in this country
and its public safety, and it's the border, the schools,
the military, everything, everything that's happened, inflation, groceries, you name it.
If we can stay to that. You can hide In
twenty twenty, he didn't have a record to hide from.
If she hides like that, this time, she will be

(52:40):
hiding from being held accountable or asked about. Yeah, the
very things that she's been a part of for the
last three and a half plus years. And I'm telling
you it's not going to I don't think it goes
over the same way.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
What about the story that came out today the known
terrorists who are on the terrorist list who've gotten into
this country illegally, and the number is staggering.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, you haven't seen that as it yet. Story came
out today and I want to say it's around nine
hundred and eighty two, but it could be more or less.
I don't have the numbers in front of me known
terrorists on the terrorist list who got into this country
through the border.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And if you want to talk about a Biden administration record,
how about in light of what you just shared that
the and I'm talking late twenty twenty three, the Department
of Homeland Security was saying the greatest risk to American
safety were Trump's supporters, members of the military, and Christians. Yeah,

(53:34):
truly those were the three categories that they were saying,
we're posing a greatest risk to Americans. And that was
in late twenty twenty three from this current Kamala Harris
Biden ministry.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
And included in that list, as I recall, Greg wasn't
parents who went to the school board meetings said we
don't like what you're teaching our children. We want it stopped.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Oh yeah, that was its own there too, But yeah
there in their two Yes, but that's the other existential threat.
Forget these terrorist watch lists that you're talking about. That
that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
We don't care about that at all, all right, more
than Rod and Gregg show coming up right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine K and r Ass.
We should have asked Abby if she's ever heard this
term or used this term because someone is called a
brass neck. No, we're have away with words, don't the
brass neck.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
In the olden days, in the old studio. She can
just jump on right now.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, apparently to me it means that
that someone who is so thick skinned it makes them
utterly impervious to any sense of shame for their own
self interest or hypocritical actions. Who do you think I'm
talking about right now?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well Riches when we asked that question, Rod, because there
are so many people that come to mind.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
How about Nancy Pelosi? Yes, all, she's a brass neck.
Why now, remember she just did everything she could to
get Joe Biden off the ticket. Yes, yeah, she basically
told him, look, you're.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Done at two.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You are done. So she appears on CBS this morning yesterday, right, yep,
and she has an idea as to what we should
do with Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah. Can you play it?

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, we can play this. Here's what she suggested about
her good friend, her loyal friend, someone who she loves,
Joe Biden.

Speaker 14 (55:31):
Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Wants to know what comes next, that.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
He belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and Joe Biden.

Speaker 14 (55:46):
But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him down, but you can add Biden.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
That's how bad it is. Leslie Stall has to hold
onto the side of her chair to not fall off
after what she's heard. She's She's like, uh, did I
just hear that, right? Did you really say that out loud?
And she's like, well, I got Teddy Roosevelt in there,
what's she up against Teddy Roosevelt? She clearly does so.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Here Nancy Pelosi is doing everything she can to end
Joe Biden's political career. Someone she admired what she held up,
you know, and then she goes to Joe and said,
you know, Joe, you're just too damn old for the job.
You need to get out of her and we'll put
you on Mount rush And by the way, maybe that
was part of the Golden parachute.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, maybe that was. Remember you mentioned if.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
There was a big, big money thrown at him. But
apparently maybe it was a spot of hat.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
If he thought he was getting Mount rushmore. I think
he got tricked. Oay, I just don't see that happening.
I don't think. I think that's a she made a promise,
she can't her her mouth made wrote a check, she
can't catch ye.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
The you know, the these Democrats out there today, Greg Barack, Obama,
Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi, you know, Chuck Schumer, they're all
praising Joe Biden. Remember winning quick It was the right
thing to do. You're a great American, You're like George Washington.
And by the way, while you're standing there, let us

(57:17):
pull the knife out of your back. Yes, because that's
exactly what they did to this guy.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Honestly they did. I And look, you know that was
part of the gig. We're gonna make sure everyone knows
you're a statesman and you are great. We're not going
to embarrass you for the way you're embarrassing. We know
the trim embarrassing. Okay, We're gonna just say really nice
nice things about you because and Democrats always can because
the words never matter. It's just the ends. It's a
means to an end. That's all they really care about there.

(57:43):
Consistency doesn't. Consistency doesn't get in their way, Truthfulness doesn't.
It's just how do we get him out of here? Well,
we'll say, we promise, we'll say some nice things.

Speaker 9 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah. And here's what's frightening right now. The Middle East
is sitting on it, you know. I mean it's a
tinder box over there right now. You just had a
US air base in Iraq attacked by somebody. We can
assume it's Iran. Several Americans were injured in this. Today
you know this is and and Israel is right now

(58:15):
Greg on high high alert because they know something is coming.
After they went after the Hamas leader, what happened was,
you know, we're we're initially thinking, if you aren't aware
of this story, we were initially thinking that Israel launched
a missile to get rid of the Hamas leader. Well,
what they did was they put a bomb under his bed. Okay,

(58:36):
and they obviously paid somebody from the Iranian Royal Guard,
the i RG to put that bomb under Hanani's bet,
and they did, and they killed the guy. Iran is saying,
and they did this in Baghdad.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Because it was yeah, and it was the for the
inauguration of the new president.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
And they blew the guy up. He laid down in bed,
thought he was gonna get a good night's sleep. He
got a permanent sleep.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
You know, that's that's great. And you know what if
they're if they're talking about coming after Israel, I don't
think it's gonna go well for him. I don't And
I don't think nukes will get involved. I really don't.
I think we're I hope we're confident enough at least
I don't keep that from happening. Yeah, I don't trust him,
but I will tell you this, if you were ever
looking to be aggressive towards the United States, when what

(59:24):
time would you pick?

Speaker 2 (59:25):
If not now?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I don't know a time where we have looked on
the world stage than we do now. And I hope
that I hope, hope, hope that's not the case. But
it is why we work.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
You give me a couple of ugly looks today, but
you know it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
No, they weren't, they were just I was just yeah, No,
I don't think that. I think you made that part up.
I think that was That's not true. I didn't. I
have nothing but appreciation, sir, well that the show is
now off the ground and running while it's great.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
If you just joined. Just on Friday, we announced that
the Rodarcat show was packaged up, put in a box
and sent to the Center for Broadcast Excellence as it
should be all done now. Yes, now it's a new
error with the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
It is, and it's it's fun. It's fun. It's been
a great first show. I'm you know, I uh, it's
been I have a lot to learn and those Wednesdays
they came around real fast. But it's gonna be a
lot more fun to seeing you every day and then
seeing Ray. I think I Ray and are going to
become like best pals. We're gonna have lunch together, We're
gonna hang out. He's gonna teach me how to bowl.

(01:00:27):
He's gonna teach you bowling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
He knows, you know, he's one of the best bowlers
in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
That yeah, that is actually a fact, really true. Really
he knows the science of bowling. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
He showed me, like the oil they put on lanes
that will make the ball do funny things, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And then I the only thing I know about bowling
is from like Big Lebowski, And he gets so mad
because he thinks that that's that that takes lightly the
art of bowling. So he's gonna teach me how to bowl.

Speaker 10 (01:00:52):
I know it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
That's what We're gonna become POWs that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
But I know, well, I want to read this to you.
This is a headline in UK daily Now, in my opinion,
the U take a UK Daily Mail Online is really
one of the best news sources out there. Yeah, really,
you know, I tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I followed. Queen Bee follows it constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Here's a headline in its edition, This Afternoon, a landlocked
state famed for its parts, pine forests and fry sauce.
I love that had stunned everyone by ranking as America's
best place to live. Now, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Well you haven't said what state that is. That sounds
like it's Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Figure that one out. Utah, New Hampshire, Idaho, Minnesota, and
Massachusetts come came top top five states in which you
want to live in. It's kind of nice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Well it hang on to that. I hope it stays
the case. It's been because Republicans have run in the
show for how long. That's why we're so great. But
you know, you can get, you can get, you can
lose your and becoming in a once great state and
be at the bottom of the barrel before you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Worse states to live in California.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Duh, Yeah, New Mexico really yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah, Texas, some Texans would have an argument with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think they would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Louisiana and Alaska.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, no, I can think I can think of worse
states than that. Actually, I don't know if I would. Yeah,
this is the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Did you hear what happened in California?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Something's always happening in California, always have Chevron.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, you know, a huge one of the biggest companies
in the world right used to be known as Standard
Oil of California. Have been there for one hundred forty
five years. Are packing up and leaving. They said, we've
had it with the anti fossil fuel overregulation state that

(01:02:52):
we're in. Now we are leaving. We are done there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
They're following Joe Rogan and Elon Muskin. They're getting out,
They're getting out. They're just We're done. What a sad
state that I mean? It is first census in twenty
twenty to see the state of the California's population ship shrink.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yep, it's going to be shrinking more all right now.
One of the stories after the assassination attempt on his
life back on July thirteenth, yep, a lot of people
were wondering, Greg is Donald Trump going to change? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I'm one of those guys that thought I sent
a bit of a you know, somberness to the man
at the National Convention.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yep. Yeah, Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to
talk about that right now is Thdeus McCarter. He is
with he's a contributor at American Greatness.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, so joining us. Thanks again mister McCarter for joining us.
And just I need to ask you tell me why
you think that he has stayed because you've argued he
stayed the same guy as he was before he got
on that stage in Butler, Pennsylvania. Why is he the
same guy?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Well, we'd seen heading into the Republican Convention a lot
of discussion about whether this will change Donald Trump. There
were indications early on that there was more of a
contemplative Donald Trump, more of a someone who's kind of
trying to take everything into perspective. And yet as we've
seen as the campaign has going on, he's pretty much

(01:04:14):
the same guy who said fight fight right after the
assassination attempt. He remains a fighter. He remains an authentic
one and I think that that serves him well. Again,
there are people who do not like that. But in
the end, it's better to be yourself and to and
to carry the plant, carry the standard of the Republican
Party as best you can, rather than to be a

(01:04:35):
hamlet and think about the existence of everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Isn't that what his supporters want. They want someone who's authentic,
and they believe Donald Trump is authentic and he's not
going to change. It is not what his vote age
supporters want.

Speaker 14 (01:04:48):
That Eus.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
That is absolutely true, and a lot of people were
very concerned. That were some of his staunchest supporters for
the last three campaigns that were concerned. It wasn't that
they were unsympathetic to what he went through. They understood
he was processing it, he was dealing with it. It's
a traumatic life event. But in the final analysis, they
hoped that it would not lead him to be less
of a fight or if anything else, There were those

(01:05:12):
who did not like Donald Trump to kind of hoped
he would change. In the end, he may have learned
from this experience, grown spiritually, but in the end, it
has not affected how he campaigns for better or for worse.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
You know, I did think I saw a change in him,
But to your point, I don't think it changed. He
didn't become different in the way. He just like he said, fight, fight,
when he wanted people to know he was okay, and
we need to continue to fight. What's everyone's feeling around us?
But do you find him to be at least more contemplative,
or at least I've don't seen him sometimes when the

(01:05:44):
Democrats start fighting, he used to jump in there, right
in the middle and help proud it along. Now he
lets him kind of if they're digging a hole, he
lets him dig it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
It seems to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Me maybe that's just me, But do you see any
kind of difference in the president since that attempted assassination.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Well, a lot of that was prior to the debate
with Joe Biden, where he was very circumspecting what he said,
and that he let Biden dig himself a hole. But
I think that that was deliberate, it was very well done,
and it did allow mister Biden basically signal that he
was not capable of continuing his campaign, and certainly the

(01:06:21):
Democrats agreed with that and dumped him. I think the
thing that is very important to remember too, is that
while the discussion is a lot about Donald Trump, the
Democrats are busy ret conning Kamala Harris, trying to turn
her into something she's never been. She's long been a radical,
she's long been an extremist, and she is now trying
to pretend to somehow she's a centrist. And in short,

(01:06:44):
you have someone Donald Trump that is being authentic, which
is what many voters are supposed to be looking for,
especially younger voters, and you have Kamala Harris, which is
absolutely becoming an artificial persona for the sheer expedience or
trying to win a quick election.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
How do you Essidstone ask you about that? Should his
approach be to point out that Kamala Harris and whoever
VP choice is is not authentic, that they are telling
a different story than what they've said over the years.
How important is that for Donald Trump to point that out?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
The way to do it is to discuss the policies.
If you're discussing personalities, that actually helps Kamala Harris because
that allows you to engage in things that are less
important and easier for her to attack on. I mean,
Donald Trump has a persona and what she really doesn't
right now, and the press will do everything they can
to engage in not only protecting her new persona, whatever

(01:07:39):
it may be. I think the new phrase is fearless apparently,
but if you attack the policies in which she has
been an active participant over the last four years, if
you look at the record of the Biden administration of
domestic stagnation and inflation, and if you look at the
conflagrations around the world, you see America, say, offering a

(01:08:01):
broad end at home. And so she was number two
in that administration. She cast tying votes, deciding votes in
the United States Senate. And so you have to tire
to these policies. If you're discussing personalities, you're losing if
you're Donald Trump. If you're discussing policies, you're winning if
you're Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
So here's my question, because I agree with you one
hundred percent, and I think she cannot let we cannot
let her separate herself from the last four years of
this administration and her participation in it. Here's what I
am shocked about. I've sensed this ret conning, and I've
seen them try to reintroduce her, and media who never
liked her, all of a sudden can't stop glowing and
fawning over her. However, in this weekend when they had

(01:08:38):
the transfer of hostages, I kid you, I thought they
would have her so prepared for a moment like that
when they went to her and asked her about how
does she feel about getting these hostages released. She did
what she always does. She said, the power of America's
diplomacy is so important, because it's important to have the
power of diplomacy, something like that. One of those Yeah,

(01:08:59):
one of the things. It doesn't make any sense. She
went right back to that same Kamala that we have
seen over the last three and a half years. Is
she able to break that pattern? Is she going to
be able to be wreconned at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
At the end of the day, the reason to be
authentic is people can understand when you're not. Yeah, And
unfortunately for her, she lapses into that type of unresponsive rhetoric.
It really doesn't address anything and kind of reveals her
for the lack of policy substance that there should necessarily

(01:09:34):
be in a president of the United States. But more importantly,
whether she could be the smartest person in the world.
Let's assume she's the smartest person in the world. Let's
assume Donald Trump is the dumbest person in the world.
It doesn't matter to me. Do the policies they implement
work for the American people and for the Biden and
Harris administration as smart as the Democratic Party says it

(01:09:56):
is those policies have failed the American people and it
failed the world.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Mister mcconter, thank you for joining us on the program.
Always interesting, great takes, As per usual contributor for American greatness.
I couldn't agree more. Look, it comes down to this,
and I love his analogy. Let's assume that that Trump
wasn't the smartest guy, and that she's the smartest one.
Trump is all about restoring self governance as he did
when he was president, and they're about social engineering like oligarchs.

(01:10:25):
The Democrats are so yeah, just compare the two. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
They want. The American people want somebody who's authentic. Donald
Trump is authentic. Kids can be in my opinion, Kamala, No,
she's in it for so she can laugh. I mean
that laugh. If the American people elect her, we're going
to get four years of that. Are you ready for that?
Greg Hughes, No, I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I can't even think of the terms that way. No,
it's uh. I think he's right. I think that. And
for people in the political class that I who are
friends mine don't understand Trump, it's that it's that the
rough rawness of Trump is authenticity of which they don't
see in politics or politicians. And they don't like politics

(01:11:10):
or politicians, and so they like Trump. Citizen Hughes re
poorting to duty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
With a brand new lunch pail. You were so excited
about that. I'm surprised you still had one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Oh. I found that lunch pail. I filled it up
with the necessities of red bulls, various flavors.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Your kids are all in their twenties. I know, right,
you know, how did you find that lunch pail?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Queen Bee?

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
Help me?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
The first one she found was like it was like
made out of cloth, and I said, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
You need munch boxes or you need a lunch back.
So we found it and you got you got one.
We mentioned this earlier and I wanted to talk a
little bit more about this, what they've done in hunting
and beach now, hunting in Beach, Orange County one of
the beach cities. You have hunting in Beach, you have Newport,
you have Coast of Masa, you have Laguna all the
way down right, But hunting in Beach is really you know,

(01:11:59):
it was what was a couple of months ago, several
months ago where they refused to fly a Pride flag
and took a lot of heat for doing that on
government buildings. They said, we're not going to do that. Well,
now they've stood up for something else.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Now I love it. So the mayor, Mayor Gracie Vandermark,
and the city council in their next their next council meeting,
planned to introduce an ordinance that would challenge the state
law that's just been passed that would prohibit a teacher
from approaching a parent of a child if that child

(01:12:35):
is going through gender identity issues unless that child gave
permission to the teacher to go ahead and explain to
their parents, they are not allowed by state law to
do so. And so Huntington Beach, It's mayor at city
council are going to pass an ordinance to say that
that's that law is a deal breaker for them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I love it. I do now look in a city
tell us state what to do. No, but how does
any of this start but having some resistance to it
and saying we're not gonna we're not going to we're
not going to play along with this. It's parents should
have a absolute How can you ask a parent to
give the nurse a note that says they can actually

(01:13:17):
have an aspirin during the day, but the child themselves
have to be the give the permission to have the
teacher talks about their gender issues.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Greg, what is wrong with us? I mean, it is
the parent's responsibility for a child correct.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Up until this moment. It's like, up until this very
issue before that get by the way, when I was
a state lawmaker, Rod, if you wanted to do transition therapy,
if you wanted to have if the parents wanted to,
I mean they were the gay community wanted to make
sure that there was never a chance for that to happen.
And and then when ever it came the other way,

(01:13:55):
the parents should be able to have permission to be
able to change the child's gender. It will, but you couldn't.
You couldn't have it the other way anyway. Point is
the consistency is never an issue with the left. It's
never an issue with these with these you know what
I call social engineering oligarchs. They just have their way
to do it. They don't have to do it the
same way twice and here parents are irrelevant. If they

(01:14:18):
want to socially engineer how these kids are going to
go forward in this society, and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
My question would be Greg, there questions are certainly going
on in this country right now about trust between teachers,
between education and parents. How can you have trust when
you don't know if a teacher is hiding something from
you about your child? How do you how do you
generate any trust in any of this, Greg, I mean,

(01:14:44):
because there is no more trust there. I mean, I remember,
you know, growing up, my parents had a tremendous amount
of trust in the teachers that were that were with me. Now,
those teachers happened to be nuns for the first eight
years in school, so there was a different kind of
trust there. But how how are parents We're asking parents

(01:15:04):
to trust teachers, yet teachers are hiding what their their
child is doing because what they're afraid their child can't
tell mom and dad as to what's going on. What
it comes down to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
It does and I think that the common sense and
this is why I think this election is we're really
coming down to it in terms of the absurd versus
common sense and regular everyday people. I don't the political
parties almost don't matter anymore in terms of just do
you think parents are in charge or responsible for the
children they raise. I would. I mean that answer should

(01:15:36):
just not be a political or a party answer. It
should be yes, the mayor said. The governor can raise
his children anyway he wants. I'll raise my children the
way I want. There are children, and it's our choice.
He needs to stick his nose. He's to stick his
nose out of our business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
And he's right, he's right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
All Right, more of the Rod and Greg show coming
up right here on Utah's Talk right one O five nine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
K n R S.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
If you're a fan of the Hamilton the musical, which
is actually depicting real historical events, it was those taverns
where much of the revolution was and uh committed to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
So we're a modern day tavern.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah, we are the place where we are. We are
the the opposite of a French salon. We're the more
the tavern type, but we're we are. We are here
to talk about the real the real issues, interpret the
stuff that you're being fed that doesn't fly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Okay. I have a theory. Yeah, and you totally rejected
this theory because you don't care. I have a theory
as to why women like to watch the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
And how do you know women like to watch this?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Let's just watch back up and I Abby does I mean,
Abby goes home, she's glued to the TV.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
She's watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Yeah, she's watching all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Queen Bee and Sophie don't watch the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Well you don't watch the Olympic. No, you can't. You
like anti American and I'm not anti American.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
And I don't know it. It's not a conscious decision.
I don't know if was the Paris thing. I don't
know why. I just care less.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Well, here here's my my thinking on this. And I'll
be ridiculed for this, right, you're ready for this, but
I'm willing to stick my neck out unlike you. Okay,
you have the gymnastics, yeah, okay, and women like to
watch gymnastics. Okay. The other reason it's the swimming competition

(01:17:23):
and the men because they wear those skimpy little and
their bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
If someone told you this, how did you come by this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
This is my You known't we? You and I are
observers of life. Yes, would you agree with that? So
my observation is that these guys have these chiseled but
I mean they're an excellent ship. They have to be
for what they swim, really, but they wear these skimpy little,
you know, speedo outfits and that's why women watch. Okay,
I don't agree with it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Are you observing women? Daughter to the telegon watching this? Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:18:03):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
You don't agree, well, you don't watch it, so you
can't wait?

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
The last one I saw a saw on social media
picture Mark Spitz from back in the what was he
the seventies or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Do you know he's won twenty three gold medals? Yeah,
far exceeding anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, I I wouldn't. I don't share that
theory of yours. But I'll tell you what I I
used to watch the Olympics and I used to get
really excited about it. Remember Mary lou Retten, I got
excited about her. How about Carrie Struck who had a
broken like she broke her ankle and had to do
that final and she didn't won the gold. How exciting
that was? So I did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Why are you turned off by the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Maybe maybe because Biles I think she like quit last
year or no in Tokyo Olympics. I don't want to
do it and it kind of kind of bugged me
and a big fan. I don't know, I just I
just I've just not and it's not been a conscious decision.
I've just not found. I even bought you at like
Team USA hat to wear because I thought I this year. Yeah,

(01:19:02):
I thought to be excited about it, and I haven't.
You've never seen me in it, have you?

Speaker 11 (01:19:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
I have never seen me wear that hat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
And I really don't care to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
No, Well you would. It's a nice hat, is it?
You would like to? It looks good on me. But
I don't wear it because I don't wear it because
I'm not. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
You just you just thron't into it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
I mean, I'm just I'm just living it in our time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Another thing I have for you today to consider whatever
happened to the summer blockbuster movies.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
They're gone. Man, they remember the Force of July. It
would always be the biggest blockbusters.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Or Memorial Day. They'd always gear up for a Memorial Day.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You had a Christmas season too, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:19:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I have seen some that apparently some people say are blockbusters.
I did go see the Ape movie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
What Plan The Apes?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Land of Apes? Here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
You are desperate, aren't you. No, I don't say that.
I shouldn't say I've seen some of those movies. I've not.
I did not see it now, No, okay, now I've
watched them in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Now this weekend, you know what, I went and saw
what Twisters?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
So that's the take on Twister. Yeah, came out built
the late Bill Paxton.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
When did he die?

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
And he died a while again. Yeah, he had a
plastic surgery operation go wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
See the star of the movie, this new one, Yeah
is Glenn Pewell. Do you know who Glenn?

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Yeah, from Maverick. Yeah, he's from Maverick. Yeah, you remind
me alone without seeing the movie, I don't know how
you're you're a wise crack. Oh yeah, well yeah, you're
you're you're you're your wives guy maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
And he is very Yeah, it's mind candy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
So let me ask you this, what's the connection to
the first Twister? There's no good Tonado and this, lady
and gentlemen, is why we don't have summer blockbusters anymore.
Well take it in the name. We put an s
d ND. We lead people like meetably. There's some it's
a it's a sequel, of which there's no plot connection.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Not that I'm aware of. I didn't see any connection
in there. But it's mind candy, and it was. It
was kind of fun. Yeah, yeah, I can tell you're
really engaged in. You don't go to movies, do you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
No? I used to love it. I used to love
to go to movies. I don't go because I really
don't feel like there's the quality of movies out there
anymore like there used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
When was the last movie in a movie theater that
you went?

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
I bet she was one of the Marvel movies, like
an Avengermine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I can't stand in the Marvel movies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (01:21:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Those are That's the last great bash in a brilliant
movie cinema we've seen in this country. Oh my goodness,
you don't like any of.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Those were the best? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
They went whoa as soon as Tony Stark died, you know,
they not. There wasn't a good one after that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
But when I saw the first Iron Man, I saw
the first Captain number you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
And three hundred million other Americans a good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Job, all right? And I saw the first Captain of America.
They're all great, but I have to come on. Wonder
Soldier was great, they're all great. Second Captain America was great.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
They're all great. They're so good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Wonder Woman, Yes, did you see Wonders?

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I saw wonder Woman. Yes, that was Wonder Woman nineteen
eighty four. I didn't see that one versions of it.
I saw the first. I saw the first one. But no,
there's so what has happened with blockbusters. They're just not entertaining.
And they didn't even try for Fourth of July to
have a big like weekend. That's when Terminator two came
out back in ninety one that I saw with that
was a that was a July fourth big.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Taken that and how many Terminator movies are there now
after that war? Yeah? Eighty ruin it?

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
No, you have tickets?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Oh, we have tickets to give away forgot about that.
You better have tickets to get where I get them? No,
you do not get them. These are tickets to the
Rocky Mountain Gun Show. Oh good, we have a lot
of gun owners in this state. Good for this state,
I know, yeah, good for this state. We have got
two tickets to the Rocky Mountain Gun Show coming up
this weekend August tenth, and eleventh. You don't believe that

(01:22:46):
we're in the middle of August almost.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
What the summer is going to?

Speaker 12 (01:22:50):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Yeah, last summer? Yeah, Quimby hate summer, but I love summer.

Speaker 9 (01:22:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Well, she thinks she lives on Mars or no, the sun,
the sun Sun. August tenth and eleventh. It is two
tickets to the Rocky Mountain Gun Show. It's at the
Mountain America expos Center. You can also get your tickets
online at Rocky Mountain Gunshow dot com. But we've got
a pair of tickets to give away right now. Call
her number five. Should we make it easy?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I guess since he's mailing in if you are Debbie
Downer to Sometimes I come in the studio and everybody's
rocked and ready for like a harder number for the
caller to have to achieve, And then you guys just
go and mail it in with the number five number.
Now that's the rotten Greg show. We got to start
talking about these things. We need to have a higher
bar for contests, really, I think so okay. By the way,

(01:23:35):
Queen Bee Christa just reminded me Ungentlemanly Warfare that movie.
It was a guy Ritchie directed movie. It didn't come
out in the theaters sound a streaming. This is why
we don't go to movies because brilliant, brilliant?

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Is that the one with Robert Downey Junior?

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
No, No, this is Robert guy that played in Superman,
Harvey Cavell whatever his name is, but who else? Anyway,
point of this movie is it's based on twenty sixteen
released documents from World War Two from England and Winston Churchill.
He got a bunch of criminals to go and commit
ungentlemanally warfare.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
And that's a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
And it's a brilliant movie. But it wasn't in a
theater as we saw it at home. It's like she
loves it. We've we've watched that movie more than once. Really, Yeah,
it's excellent. It's funny too, Guy Richie movies are good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
The Supreme Court, you know, we rarely hear from the
nine justices of the US Supreme Court. They're on the
summer break right now, and occasionally one of them will
write a book and they're out, you know, promoting the book. Yeah,
that makes sense. Well, Neil gorsch Is has a brand
new book out. He sat down over the weekend, he
talked with Fox News a couple of times Shannon Bream,

(01:24:44):
and also talked with CBS. Matter of fact, the interview
that he did for CBS was on CBS this Morning
and the Major Garrett was the interview, and Major Garrett
basically asked him about some of the more controversial decisions
the Court has made over the years, like the abortion
ruling and the abortion are the ruling on the unaffirmative

(01:25:08):
action and listen to this question then how he responded
to it.

Speaker 12 (01:25:12):
There are people who watch this right now and say,
I thought I understood what Roe versus Wade meant in
our country. I thought I understood what affirmative action in
college admissions meant, and this Court has told me I
didn't understand what those things meant, and I wrongly relied
on things, and I thought we're settled.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
What would you say to those.

Speaker 15 (01:25:29):
I'd say, those are deeply complex legal questions on which
reasonable minds can, of course and do disagree. And then
when it comes to Roe versus Wade, for example, what
did the court decide decided that we the people should
answer that question, not nine people sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
In Washington, d C. How about affirmative.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Action much the same thing. What did we decide.

Speaker 15 (01:25:50):
We decided that all people are created equal, that it's
not acceptable in this country to discriminate on the basis
of race.

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
And for those who would say, but I feel something's
been ripped away from me, you would say, I would.

Speaker 15 (01:26:03):
Say that we're taking it back to you. In the democracy,
you're in the driver's seat, you're the sovereign.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Neil Gorsich, he's got a brand new book out. A
member of the US Supreme Court sending down in an
interview with Major Garrett today and I loved what he said,
Greg about two of their very controversial issues, abortion and
a fremended of action. We're giving it back to you,
we the people.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
You know, when I hear Major Garrett, who's a journalist
who likes to put people on the spot, ask a
Supreme Court justice and injustice course, is a question, it's
like shooting fish in a barrel. Okay, He answers back
with calm, concise, true principles, And is what's Major Garrett
going to do next? He can't say a word. They

(01:26:48):
are returning the power to people as it has always
been intended. And there's really nowhere to go from there
a guy like Major, Yeah, Major, Major is their kid Major. Anyway,
it's a bit much, I don't know. Yeah, I just
loved him trying to put him on the spot and
just listen to Gorsic just kind of well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Across is a very calm, very thoughtful guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yeah, I've heard him speak in personal Yeah, he was,
he was all those things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Was he that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I got invited? It was I think I was still
I think I was still a Speaker of the House time.
But anyway I was invited to. Uh. He spoke at
b y U and I got to hear him speak.
And actually, you know what his speech was about how
often the justices, whether it was the district of the
Circuit Court he was a member of before the Supreme Court.
He was entering how often they actually agree? How the

(01:27:41):
public always assumes that by whatever part political party the
president appointed, a justice is the only way they ever
ever rule. And he showed the frequency in which the
justice number how often they agree, Yeah, way more than
what narrative is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
And the decisions they make. They make a lot of decision,
but very few of them get any attention.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
That's right, that's right. And you know what in our
state legislature, that's the case too. You'll see a lot
of good, hard work that's just public policy, doesn't really
have a sexy right to it, and you'll see those
passed by large majorities. The ones that get the most
attention are those that are you know, partisan in nature.
But you'd be left to think that's all the legislature
does is fright over those partisan issues.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Gorstich, by the way, didn't realize this. He was the
first appointed to the Supreme Court by Donald Trump. Then
you had Brett Kavanaugh and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
What's her name, Yeah, Amy Cony. Barrett, You've been a
little disappointing a little bit. But I'll tell you what,
I'd put it up against any other Republican presidence record
of three of them. Yeah, he's I think he's done
an unbelievably good job.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Yeah. One other couple of things. I love stories like this, Greg,
and I know you do too. We're talking about, you know,
Kamala in the New Green Deal and what she wants
to do to America. Well, Maryland's largest school district, which
is Montgomery County, Maryland, right found out when it comes
to spending money on electric school buses.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Yes, oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
The school district found an Inspector General's report that implementing
electric buses led to millions of dollars of wasteful spending.
Oh yeah, surprise, surprise,

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