The Rod and Greg Show: Kamala's "Run Out the Clock" Campaign; Death of Springfield, Ohio

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I went last week. Last Friday, I was in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
He went what they called the backyard Brawl.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, I went to the back roun pitt versus West Virginia.
But Friday night I went to a high school football game.
My nephew is the offensive line coach for high school there.
And that was fun. In fact, I was getting super
excited and the people were kind of like, it's a
high school game. We want to win it, don't we.
I mean, of course I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's Friday night lights in Pennsylvania. Football is it is
big as it is around the rest of the country.
It is.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. And
you know what that that Southwest Pennsylvania is a lot
of NFL players that come from that come out of
there very good. Joe Namath did so did Dan or
Joe Montana, John Kelly, Dan Marino all came out of
Southwest Johnny United is but yeah you have. And then

(00:50):
Darrell Revis he's from that area. Defensive player, not a quarterback,
but you know, recent kind of east good player.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well we want to walk youm you to the Rod
and Greg Show. It is, uh, thank g Rod. It's
from the other thing is with some suggested this the
time where we have a little fun with you a
little bit later on, we'll definitely open up the phones
and see what's on your mind. Tonight, another crazy, crazy week,
and we're down to what forty six forty seven days
now until the election, and it's just getting nuttier and

(01:19):
nut of.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Your great we got three states that have begun their
early voting. Yep, Virginia is one, Minnesota and South Dakota.
The race is on. The voting has begun, yeah in
those states.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, Well, we've got a lot to get to today. Yes,
we are going to take some time and talk about
that town hall meeting between Oprah and Barf and Kamala.
You know, it brought so much joy into my heart yesterday.
I mean I was watching that thinking joy, Joy, Joy.
You didn't even watch it, and I don't blame you,

(01:51):
and I didn't watch a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
By the way, that's in person early voting. You could
vote in person, in person early those three states. You
can now go in personal too.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Why would you want to and the race greg as
tight as this, why would you want to early vote?
Even though maybe you've just made up your mind, and
you know, I don't think there are a lot of
undecided vote anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Last time I checked, which is like ten days ago,
ninety six point three percent of the likely voters had
already made up their mind and they are immovable in
that position.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, a little bit later on in the show, we
are going to take you to Springfield, Ohio and talk
to a reporter who has been there and has talked
to residents how they feel about things. The great Victor
Davis Hanson, and we both love Victor Davis Hanson will
join us. He'll talk about Ni Kamala Harris and how
her run out the clock campaign is working and will

(02:38):
it work come election today. And then of course a
little bit later on. You know, this is Constitution Month
here in the state of Utah. We've been celebrating the Constitution,
our founding fathers. There's a great interfaith event taking place
at concert Sunday night down in American Fork, and we'll
talk with one of the pastors who are involved in that.
So that'll be fun. So we've got a lot to

(03:00):
get to as we do each and every day here
on the Rod and Greg Show. And if you want
to be a part of it eight eight eight five
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and say, hey, Rod, now do you know a hero
of the day today?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Who?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
There is a man by the name of Joe Harner. Okay,
all right, Joe Harner owns a boat. Oh, yes, he
is a hero, the boatman. Right, yes, Now, Joe Harner
was involved in a boat parade yesterday, you know, with
a lot of Trump people showing their support for Donald Trump. Right. Well,
there was a CNN reporter. Her name is El Reeve,

(03:40):
and El goes around the country talking to people, right,
So somehow she came upon Joe. Now Joe had a
beer in his hand, had his shirt off, he was
on a boat, and she decided to talk to him about,
you know, the economy, Donald Trump. In this selection, I.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Would call this reporter a youngling as well. I think
she's you on the younger side. I don't know that
she's got a lot of institutional memory going on about life.
So she's just looking around trying to make her best
guess of what she's seeing. I think she sees it
wrong when I think this gentleman helps her understand it
a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, Joe certainly schooled her on inflation. List to this interview.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
What's your most important issue the economy?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Getting the intertrace down, getting it what we can afford
to live in America right now? It's too expensive?

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Okay, now, let me maybe ask like a slightly imp
that question. But you know, if you can afford a boat,
you're not hurting so bad, right because a boat costs
a lot of money and it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Of upkeep Listen, Nobody gave me.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
That I've got.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
I'm retired military, retired power plant and I am successful
and retired with boats jet skis because I did it right.
And everybody has that chance, whether they choose or not,
that's up to them.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
I would never try to take anything away from you
in that way. But what I'm asking is groceries are
probably a smaller part of your budget than say, you
know someone who's like a little worse off. I think
it's interesting that people who are a little bit more
comfortable are still so concerned about the autonomy.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Just use what I'm because I want my money to
go further. I want inflation to go down. I want
interest rates to go back down. I want all that,
but that that covers everybody in the economy, not just me,
not just a poor, not just a ridge.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
That covers everybody, you know. I love that. I mean,
here's a guy has a boat. But I said, look,
I worked, you know, my butt off, so to speak,
to achieve what I've done. And that's what people want
an opportunity to do. And and I'm always worried about
grocery prices as the next guy.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And by the way, this wasn't like the Love Boat
or Titanic, no harbor. Here guy's got a boat. I
mean it's not like, you know, it's not some giant
you know, Zuckerberg, you know, mega yacht running around. I mean, yeah,
So I liked it. I liked his answer. And she said, well,
isn't you know, aren't groceries a smaller person of your
you know, if your budget, you know, compared to someone

(06:03):
who makes less. And he's like, I want to you know,
I want my dollar to go further. Everybody does. Everybody.
Everybody's worked for the The sad part for young people
watching that clip is that that man was able to
work his life do it the right way as he described,
and then have a retirement. I got young, I got
young adults for kids now, and I wonder if they
do it right, are they going to be in the
same situation Joe's in if this crew gets elected, Harrison Walls,

(06:28):
I'm worry. The answer that is no.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, see, they're depending. I think I think Harris and
Timmy are depending on the fact that because they can't
make it, because times are different now right, they will
depend on the federal government to help them out. And
that's what we They want to create, that dependence. Yeah,
they want to create that dependency, Greg, and we don't
want that in this country. Well, like Joe said, I
didn't ask for anybody's help. I just work my tail off.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yep, he said. Equal opportunity yep, not equal outcome. That crew,
Harris Walls crew and Biden before him, and all these leftists,
they want outcome. That's what equity is. It's equal outcome. Well,
that's that is communism, that is cube. But that is
you know these countries we've seen where everybody treated the
same exact way, and that way is not all that great.
It's not all that that quality of life isn't isn't

(07:14):
like the United States. We'll just say that.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I honestly think that reporter didn't know how to
ask any more questions. She was so dumbfounded by that
answer because it made sense she did. She didn't know
where to go with the rest of.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know what, I really do attribute the way she
asked that question and to her youth like she just
doesn't know. She doesn't have the she doesn't have the
institutional memory or knowledge of how things were to really
contrast it to understand why he would be upset. Yeah,
you know, because the liberal crowd they are so wealthy
that you can you can assign they have tax attorneys,

(07:48):
they got accountants, they got they don't have to pay taxes.
I guarantee you these people that are wealthy enough all
this tax stuff they keep talking about going after the
you know, people that make four hundred thousand and more,
you're not gonna get taxed to dime. Everyway working class
gets taxed all of it. Yeah, and and the wealthy
they get, they got more shelters and more ways to
avoid taxes. And we'll ever understand.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Why did they think? Why do you think greg The
Democrats especially love to put on these people who aren't
even bothered by what's going on with the economy. Case
in point, last night, here's Oprah. Oprah's making yeah bazillion
dough Yes, right, Kamala Harris isn't doing too bad herself.
How do they expect that average Americans are going to
relate to these people?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know, I grew up middle class. Oh yes, you know,
I'm answering your question. I grew up middle class where
we liked our lawns.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, we had nice lawns.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
We had lines with everyone really loved their laws.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And because of that, I can I can cut prices
for you because I lived around people had nice laws.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well you got really specific. You got way more specific sheetage.
She just really begins and ends with I live I
grew up middle class. That's it. That's that's just the answer.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
We should just answer every question that way. Anytimes someone
asked us a question, I grew up middle class.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's the answer. That's the end all be all.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
And I want to add to that, I lived around
people had nice longs.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, nice, they love their lungs.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So you know, you know, all right, it is Rod
and Greg with you on this. Uh uh, I want
to say, thank Rod, it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I remember, start calling in ge rot, I have no
I have no ownership. Pride of ownership here you can
call it thank Rod, it's Friday. I think you're a
little more giddy than I am. It's Friday.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So well on Friday, yeah, cause I get two days
away from you.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Ah yeah. If you if you start logging the hours
that we're spending on the show, it's getting a little
scary for you, not for me.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It is. It is all right more coming up Rod
and Greg with you on this Friday afternoon again, if
you want to be a part of the conversation, and
a little bit later on, we'll open up the phones
to you like we do. As we call it, Thank
g Rod is Friday. That's when the phones open up
eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero
or on your cell phone, all you do is have
to dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, I

(09:52):
love this. This headline. It was written by someone at
the Federalist Today. Oprah's Kamala Harris Special was a ship
aimless tongue bath.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know, I look, I have tried to be a
sponge on these things. And I know she doesn't like
to do interviews, so I really wanted to for our listeners,
I wanted to kind of listen and watch. I can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I can't. I can't. I you know, Oprah spoke at
the Democrat National Convention, so we know what. She's not
a journalist. She wasn't. That's fine, Sarah, how could be interviewed?
Trump kind of introduceder was moderator. So it's I mean,
I get it. I guess if it's a rally type thing,
but it certainly is not a real interview. It's not

(10:37):
an interview. It's it's a campaign event from someone who's
already supports you, has already expressed their support over the
other candidate. I can't watch it. It's just it's just
a big campaign commercial exactly. Is anything anything substantive out
of it? And it wasn't planned to be that way.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Everyone they're they're doing this just so I guess they
can try and convince Americans that Kamala is a nice
person and she's competent to do the job.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, it's popular, I mean, she's billions being popular.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Popular, Yes, that's right. But let I want you to
hear a few of these up words, Yeah, a few,
a few of the word solas from Kama last night. Now,
the big issue in this campaign is inflation. People are
concerned about rising costs. Right Well, Kamala took a question
from a couple in the audience last night, and here's
what she had to say. We really would love to

(11:31):
know what your plan is to help lower the cost
of living.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
Yeah, first of all, thank you both for being here,
and yours is a story I hear around the country
as a travel and in terms of both rightly having
the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for

(11:56):
your family, and working hard and finding that the American
dream is for this generation and so many recently, far
more elusive than it's been. And we need to deal
with that. And there are a number of ways. One
is bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Get did you get anything out the dreams and aspirations?
So she just keeps She trained so hard, she practiced
so hard for that debate. She can't let those lines
go unused. So she just pulls back a couple you know,
pits hit the play button in her head, says a
couple of things she said in the debate, and dreams
and aspirations being one of her lines. And then at
the very end she says, we need to do something

(12:39):
about it. Oh, you just thirty five seconds or a
minute telling us what the problem is. To say at
the end, your answer is we gotta do something about it.
And then she just says control costs.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
She well, you know she's taking control. And let me
tell you what. They are going to take a shot
our price controls. Greg. First of all, they're going to
now they're going to punish companies for right scouting. There
have been story after story after story out there showing
there's never been any price gouging taking place in this country.
It just it doesn't happen. Maybe a few instances maybe,

(13:14):
but not like this. And how are you going to
bring the prices down? I mean, what do you tell
tell mister grocery you know you're only making a penny
off that that sale. Now now you can only make
a half a penny. That's your profit margin.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'll tell you what you like. You want to control
price couging? Quit totally different subject. We quit pumping eighty
six shots into a newborn and paying the pharma pharmaceutical
companies for you know, guaranteed trillions of dollars to pay
for every one of these for every child born in
this country. Go go control that cost. That's a scam.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Now here's another word, salad. Now I do have a
barf bag here if you need it. It's just it
is listening to her talking. This is her closing statement
to America last night. You're ready for this, Hang on votes.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
We love our country.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I think she likes wine. She loves wine.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
We love our country. We take pride in the privilege
of being American.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh yes we do.

Speaker 8 (14:16):
And this is a moment where we can and must
come together as Americans understanding we have so much more
in common than what separates us. Let's come together with
the character that we are so proud of about who
we are, which is we are an optimistic people. We

(14:39):
are an optimistic people.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
American by character are people who have dreams and ambitions
and aspirations. We believe in what is possible, we believe
in what can be, and we believe in fighting for that.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
She's not a lost That's how we came into being because.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Put up stuff.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
That one of the greatest expressions for the love of
our country. One of the greatest expressions of patriotism is
to fight for the ideals of who we are, which
includes freedom to make decisions about your own body, freedom
to be safe from gun violence, freedom to have access

(15:26):
to the ballot box, freedom to be who you are
and just be, to love who you love openly.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
And with pride, freedom.

Speaker 10 (15:34):
To just be.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Who we are. We believe in all that.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 9 (15:44):
I A So this is a moment. Well we stand
knowing what we are fighting for. We're not fighting again.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I couldn't listen.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
How long is this?

Speaker 11 (15:52):
You are one of the stupidest, dumb ass people.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I go for bet I miss orn Hatch right now.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well that was too many. That was kind of her
summation last night. You know, we just want to be free.
We want the aspirations to be free. We're an optimistic piece.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
We're gonna we really are fixed a price of groceries.
We're going to raise taxes by five trillion dollars. We're
going to build government housing units units for you. We're going,
I mean, yeah, take your freedom and take it somewhere else. Please.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Hey, I just saw the fetterman who I'm telling you,
since he's had psychiatric treatment and counseling for depression, the
guy's become more sensible lot, you know, just common sense
and logical. Uh just said that Trump has has admitted
that Trump has a special hold on Pennsylvania's Oh really, yeah, really,
I think that's great that he can admit that because

(16:45):
it's true. I think it's true.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, he has a special hold on it. He just
he's so relatable greg to the common everyday person he is,
I mean, or so she doesn't know how to relate
to everyday people.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
She just doesn't know there is an often to see
to him. I mean, and that's you know, it's it's
it is what it is. I think that. Did you
see that clip? I won't get into the whole thing
because it's a long clip. But the guy in New
York that said he went to a private school when
his father died, and he got a knock at the
door and it was Trump. Is his dad's name, Fred
Fred Trump? That I believe brother, So his father knocks

(17:20):
on their door. They went to the same private school,
and he asked for the young man's mother. It was
his So his his peer was Donald Trump and they
went to the school together. He came to his door
and he told the mother that her that he was
sorry that her husband had died, and he was going
to pay for their three children's private school. And this
guy's telling the story to a cameraman. Uh and it's

(17:40):
a it's a really he gets emotional as you would anyway.
You don't hear give me those tell me those stories
are emerging anywhere in the Biden family or Kamala Harris
family or the Walls family. You don't hear it, dude?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
All right, more coming up with Rod and Greg gun
Utah's talk ready on one oh five nine k n
R S. Let's talk about what's going on in uh Ringfield, Ohio.
You know that poor community, Greg, I mean you just
feel sorry for people town of what about fifty thousand,
sixty thousand, something like that, Sisa Harriman or you know,
people are raising questions about what's going on there. Even
the residents there have been complaining since March about what

(18:17):
they see taking place in this country with this invasion
of migrants from Hashi Haiti. The governor of Ohio, Mike Dwine,
so what you want about him, wrote an essay to
the New York Times today entitled I'm the governor of Ohio.
I don't recognize the Springfield that Trump and Vance described.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
So he's explaining his complete disconnect to the everyday people.
That's what It's a confession. That's okay, what he's doing, right,
That's what I wondered.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, joining us on our newsmaker line right now, it's
Spencer Lindquist. Spencer is a reporter of the Daily Wire.
He spent some time in Springfield, Ohio over the last
several days talking to people there and wrote a great
report on it today. And Spencer, thanks for joining us
on the Rotten Greg Show this afternoon. What are your
impressions after spending some time there in Springfield about what

(19:06):
the people they are going through?

Speaker 12 (19:07):
About a week in Springfield, just under a week, and
that's exactly what I heard from so many of the
residents that they go around town. It's a town that
many of them grew up in. It's an all American
town there in the Ross Belt with a quaint downtown
that really is it is fit for a postcard. And
so many of them say that they simply don't recognize
the area in which they've grown up. The area in

(19:29):
which many of them have raised their own children. This
is a town of about fifty eight thousand people as
of the last census data, and anywhere from fifteen to
twenty thousand Haitian migrants have been resettled into that community
in just the last couple of years under the Biden
Harris administration. So it is something that has fundamentally reshaped
the population there in Springfield. It's reshaped the culture, and

(19:52):
it's also had economic impact. All of those are really
top of mind for the residents of Springfield who've undergone
this change.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Spencer, I'm jealous. I actually I was in Pittsburgh last
weekend and I looked at how long it would take
me to get to Springfield because I've been so fared
up about this because I know that what's happening there
is similar to the every state being a border state
and what's happening in Aurora, Colorado and other places. These
stories that have emerged, I've looked it up. These are
city commission meetings that they have been complaining and warning

(20:21):
and saying things are wrong. We don't know what's happening.
The volume of people moving there is just is unsustainable
in any way, shape or form. My question is this,
This is why I want to go there. When you
hear about the people driving cars they've never been behind
the wheel of without a license, and the automobile accents
and the fatalities. When you hear about the jobs that
they are displacing workers in, or the housing that they

(20:42):
are displacing people that can't afford the rents because the
rents are going up and they're taking up the available housing,
even the one that everyone likes to mock, whether it's
the geese, the docks, the domestic pets, have any of
those things that I've heard, Are any of them patently untrue?
Or is that part of the chaos of Springfield, Ohio?

Speaker 12 (21:04):
You know, one of the things that I kept hearing
when I was there on the ground is that those
are concerns for some of the residents, what we've heard
about docs and geese and even people's pets. But really
most people say that they're glad that there is more
attention on their town because, just like you said, these
are people who in many cases have been going to
their city commission meetings sometimes for months, and it's just

(21:26):
now hitting the national spotlight. But it's very important to
note that this is a community that, of course is
having a lot of problems, a lot of challenges with
the sudden influx of as many as twenty thousand people
from the Third World. But it's also important to note
that they never asked for this, that they never asked
for this mass resettlement into their community. They never voted

(21:48):
on it, And quite to the contrary, they voted overwhelmingly
almost sixty forty for former President Donald Trump, both in
twenty sixteen and again in twenty twenty. So this is
not a group of people who have voted for mass immigration.
They didn't vote for mass haation resettlements in their community.
One of the questions that I kept asking, and that
people on the ground kept asking, is why Springfield, it

(22:11):
can be anywhere in this country, Why Springfield, Ohio. And
we're still figuring out exactly why it is that community,
but I think underscores what many of the people there
on the ground told me that there's nothing about Springfield
that one would have expected to attract such a large population,
such a large migrant population. And given that fact, this

(22:33):
is an impact of the Biden Harris border policies. It's
an impact of the extension of temporary protected status to
these Haitian migrants, and it could happen to any other city,
just as it's happening to Springfield, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
We're speaking right now with Spencer Lindquist. He is a
reporter with a Daily Wire. He's been in Springfield, Ohio,
kind of getting an idea as to what's going on
in that community, which has really become the center of
the immigration debate. Spencer. I saw in the New York
Times today the Governor of Ohio, Mike de Wine, writing
that as Governor Ohio, he doesn't recognize the Springfield that
Donald Trump and JD. Vans are describing. I mean, do

(23:10):
they feel at all, as you talk to people, that
they're getting any kind of help to deal with the
situation they're now facing, Spencer.

Speaker 12 (23:19):
People on the ground. Frankly, many of them do not
know where to turn. These are people who in many
cases have gone to their city commission meetings, They've spoken
to each other, that they've tried to see where they
can get help from. They certainly know that this is
a product largely of the temporary protected status policy that
was extended by the Biden Harris administration. But they're also

(23:42):
looking for more help from there, from their officials more directly,
whether that's city commission, whether that's their state government. And
really most of them just feel like they are not
getting the support they need. It's causing a tremendous strain
on their social services. There are people who I spoke
with there who are impoverished, who see these social services,
whether they're government services or whether they are charity organizations,

(24:06):
that resources are being diverted away from American systems and
towards people who just entered this country endo this administration.
But people on the ground really are asking for more help,
and so many of them seeing that it's just falling
on deaf ears when it comes to members of the
state government.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
You know, why can't they.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Use the marsa vineyard model. You just bring them in,
You bring in. That number is you know, decimal dust
compared to what Springfield's dealing with. But within a ten days,
I think they had everybody out. They got to do
some good volunteer work, look like they cared virtue signaling everywhere,
and then they said, you got to get out of here.
This isn't a place for you. How come there isn't
any more discussion, especially with a the wine who I

(24:45):
heard here has a Haitian you know, charitable foundation or something,
and how are they able to stay without any kind
of making the federal government accountable or trying to relocate
then the herd. My gosh, you got sixty thousand people
with twenty thousand refugees in one small little town. Any
sign that there's movement on the ground with the federal

(25:07):
government to relocate people or to deal address what Springfield
residents are suffering through.

Speaker 12 (25:15):
There doesn't appear to be any effort, whether it's fro
the state government or from the federal government to take
the actions that were taking Martha's vinyer. Just like you said,
it's going to be quite quick. There was certainly the
necessary political willpower in that situation for the community to
know very very quickly reject this migrant population. The same

(25:37):
thing has not happened in Springfield whatsoever. You've got you know,
people there who are renting patients. You've got people there
who are running temporary staffing companies that are now using
patient labor. So there are certainly people there on the
ground who would not want that to occur, if for
no other reason, because they might have some form of
financial interest in this mass immigration. They might have financial

(25:58):
interest in this refugee, not refugee, but in this migrant resettlement.
So no, we're not seeing any effort whatsoever to try
and remove this this massive influx from from Springfield, Ohio from.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
The Daily Wire. That is a reporter Spencer Lindquist, who
spent about a week in Springfield, Ohio to get a
kind of a feel as to what's going on, talking
talking to people in that community about how they're being impacted.
In a small way, Greg, we have the same thing
going on in this state with Harriby. We heard from
people called not only in Harriman, but around the state
people being affected by immigration. Man, I think it's it's

(26:35):
too bad, all right. More coming up here on the
Rod and Greg showing Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine kN arrests. Hey, I've got a beauty tip for you,
because I know you're really into looking good all times. Right,
I've got a beauty tip. You're ready to do this one?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
No longer a dirty secret. But apparently beauty lovers are
eating dirt. They claim it has health benefit. Of course, no,
that's what they're claiming.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, this is all part of the grant. They're just
trying to interrupt our food supply chain. They got us
eating dirt and telling us you're healthier for doing it.
Yeah what what? What is this from the NIAHR? From
dirt pharma?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Dirt is being incorporated in some diets for its many
benefits to the skin as well as the digestive and
immune systems. Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
If you believe that, folks, I can tell you right now,
no one in our audience is buying that.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know what I've always said though, and I know
you'll disagree with me on this. If you have children
in the home, occasionally let them eat a spoonful of dirt.
It's good for them. What are you talking about? Eat dirt?
That is a kid. You never ate it had a
little dirt. Never.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I would spit dirt out if it ever got in
my mouth as a kid, because for you, I was
you know, I wasn't, you know, walking into walls.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't eat it. Okay, I don't need it now,
but I always thought a little bit of dirt never
hurt anybody, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Speaking of walls, we've got ten seconds. Democrats seek amusement
tax to raise cost of fun in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
That they're great.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, they're gonna movie tickets, sports events. They just want
to raise all things fun in Michigan. There you go. Yeah,
I'd say I'd say no to that. If I were
in the legislature, I would vote no the great tax.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Victor Davis Hanson will be joining us after news update.
I'm gonna run outside, waitpooon full of dirt. Yeah, and
I'll look better than ever. That's coming up our number
two broad and great showy with a we have a
great guest on the show. We love having Victor joining us.
And before he does, Greg, I want to read an

(28:43):
editorial opinion today written in the Wall Street Journal by
Peggy Noonan, who used to be the speech writer I
believe for Ronald Reagan. Right, here's the title of it.
Kamala Harris is an artless dodger, and she says she
evades every question of substance, leaving voters a choice. Unfortunately,
it's not a good choice. She says. The race is

(29:04):
deadlocked with six weeks ago, and if you're undecided, unsure
or wavering voter, it's just awful for you to try
and figure out where Kamala Harris stands on things.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
So and I think and our guest, I think the
Victor Davis Hanson will explain this strategy. But this is
a this is a I believe a campaign. It's about
the hatred towards Donald Trump and the fear you can
ignite across this country to vote against him. Certainly not
for Kamin.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Because she doesn't say anything. Let's welcome Victor to the show.
Is always Victor, great to have you on the Roding
greg Show. Thanks for joining us this afternoon, Victor, go ahead, Victor,
I'm sorry, yeah. Can she run out the clock? Victor?
Can she run out the clock?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, you know, she's tried everything. She had the balance
from the Biden removal, she had moderators that helped her
in the debate. She's had these three softball interviews. She's
out amazing Trump two or three to one, and she's
dead even and she's starting the hemorrhage. And I think
she's exhausted all the cards in her deck because ultimately

(30:18):
she in some venue. I know she avoids news conferences
one on one network, major interviews, town halls, but even
the softball Oprah or the Association of Black journal You
can't hide that she's an apt And in contrast, Donald Trump,
I don't think Nornan understood that he talks to anyone,
any time, anywhere about anything. He's utterly transparent, sometimes to

(30:42):
his own disadvantage. And there is a big it's not
between you know, just a name person, a novel person.
This is a very short distinction from a Trump agenda.
And that's what she should have been writing about. It's antithesis,
which is Harris. And we know that it's antithesis because
she's doing all she can a not to tell us
exactly how she's going to implement it. Then be she's

(31:05):
flipping from all of her life long held beliefs. So
she must never have believed in them, or she believes
they're they're unpalatable to the American people. But it's it's
an insult to the voter what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
We're speaking with Victor Davis Hansen again. You're such a
thought leader and opinion leader, you really do. You can
spot it when you see it. Our theory on the program,
we've talked about this. We think that her coalition of
voters do not all agree on the same issues. If
you're in Pennsylvania and you believe in fracking or the
extraction industry, that alienates a lot of the environmentalists. If

(31:38):
you're a pro Israel then you're then you're alienating your
pro terrorist pro Hamas supporters. And she has a frail
i would say, coalition of voters who she's trying to
appeal to. So I think she's just gone with a
straight up we hate Trump and why would why would
she ever answer a question if she just wants him
to speak so that the media can take one hundred
percent negative coverage and just attack him NonStop. And she's

(32:01):
just the alternative to Trump, and that's also I think
she wants to be. My question is you look at
these polls so close, where they are so close, will
we just hate Trump and you should be afraid of him?
And that's our beginning, middle, and end of our complete
campaign message to you. Do you think that that will
ultimately carry the day?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
She's got another forty something days and I'm not sure
it will. I mean, states like Minnesota and Virginia should
not be should not be close, and they are. And
you know you're right about what she does. She doesn't
ever reject She never says I'm for cracking, and I
reject not being for cracking. But she just superimposes her

(32:46):
new self on her own self. But she doesn't come
out explicitly to her base and reject She doesn't say
I'm for open borders what she was. She just says,
I want to secure border. And then you're supposed to
assume that a secure border and an open border are
the same thing, because she talks out of both sides

(33:08):
of her mouth depending on the audience. But you're right,
she never explicitly rejects her old views. He just superimposes
on top of them. They're antitheses. And then she hopes
that nobody does her math and say this is impossible.
You can't be for both. And that's what she does.
And Donald Trump, it's funny. What he doesn't do well

(33:29):
is get angry and get baited and you know, talk
about a tendant size and awful. But what he does
will do really well. If you saw him in gut Field,
are these some of these interviews. He's funny, he's self deprecating,
and if he can do that in the Reagan style,
the next forty days give us many of those types
of interviews where he's off the cup, he talks about himself.

(33:53):
You know, he said, I can't afford to hold grudges.
Nobody would like me otherwise. He's funny, and he's very
good at it, and he's good about explaining the issues.
And he's got wonderful surrogates, Tulca Gabbard and Tom Cotton's wonderful.
Marco Rubio is doing a good job. Or if CA's
doing a good job, jd. Vance is doing a good job.

(34:14):
So if he just sticks to that and gets this
team out there with him, I think he won't have
a problem.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Victor, You right that Harris has nationalized a new kind
of cynical campaign in which left his candidates seek for
a few months to de seed the public into thinking
they are centrist in moderates until elected. Rush used to
call voters some voters in America low information voters. Do
the low information voters See what's going on with Kamala

(34:42):
Harris right now? Do you think, Victor?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Maybe not the first time, maybe not the second time,
maybe not even the third occasion, But after a while,
it's every single day, and I think they're going to
get They're going to get very angry about it. We're
watching that Gavin Newsom do the same thing out here.
He's now trying to pick trash and tell her home
less to don it off the streets. And it's because
you know, he's prepping himself already for his He hopes

(35:07):
come on and to lose, and he'll be annoyed at
her the next Democratic nominee. But I don't think she
can keep doing it, is what I'm saying, Because she's
in a doom room. Everybody's putting pressure on her to
get out there, even her own supporters, but deep down
they don't want her to get out even with Oprah.
She just I don't know what it is about her.
She just goes into these you know, wash rants, spend

(35:32):
cycles a repetition with a vocabulary of about well, I
don't know, three hundred words, and she exhausted and it doesn't.
Finally enough people have absorbed it and they think, you know,
I don't really want it to be part of it.
And the down ballot talent candidates, the Senate and the
congressional people, you would think they would want her out

(35:52):
there all the time to push their party and help
them in their respective districts. But I don't think they
want her to get on TV either. You know, it's
the worst. I never see anything like it. You don't
really have.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
My working theory is that she just really likes wine.
I think that's what's happening here, because I don't understand
how she's speaking so incoherently.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
She must say.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
It must be a whine thing. I don't know, but
let me ask you this. I don't know if you
had a chance to see Donald Trump on the Guttfeld Show.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I did.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I saw him smile, and I saw him laugh, and
I saw him in a relaxed atmosphere that I don't
typically see the former president. If she wants to put
all her pin, all her hopes on a we hate
Trump and you should fear him, wouldn't it be good
for that type of show where you see him smiling
and you see him almost just relaxed. Why don't we

(36:44):
ever see the former president in that way? Or do we?
And do I miss it? Because I just thought that
was a phenomenal you'ry.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I think he gets a lot bigger bang for the buck.
He can get two or three million viewers than the
rallies are sixty or seventy and they don't always televise
them so and they don't take them as much. And
I would like him to see three or four due
three or four of those, you know, with really high
high audience podcasters, talk radio guys like you and just

(37:16):
just just relax. He's very good at it. Yeah, yeah,
very good at it. And it really dispelled the idea
that he's a dictator. He's awful where he's a tyrant,
and that's just strength. But it's not his strength to
get angry and lose his temper and just use these generic,
you know, adjectives. He's dumb, she's stupid. Doesn't help him.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
No, it doesn't, It doesn't. Victor is always great chatting
with you. Thank you for a few minutes of your
time on Friday in afternoon. Enjoyed the weekend. Thank you, Victor,
you too, Thank you for having me all right, Victor.
David Hanson always fun to talk to Victor. Him and
by the way, he mentioned the Gutfeld. Gutfeld has never
had as big of an audience as he did the
other night with Donald Trump on there, four point nine

(37:56):
million people watch that it was I would love to
see him come back I'm with you, Greg. He looked relaxed,
He looked like he was having fun. He allowed the
other panelis like tyrists, to have a little bit of fun,
fun with him and gut filled to throw a few
zingers at him, and he just took them. That's the way.
That's the way late night talk show hosts or late

(38:16):
night talk shows used to be. They aren't anymore, but
they used to be that way.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
And what I would love is that if we know,
and I think it's just so patently obvious that there
Kamala Harris's strategy is hate and fear, you know, creating
you know, you hate him so much that you're going
to fear any world that he's the president in. I
think the greatest combat to that, or the greatest pushback

(38:41):
is to see him in those moments. That is a
moment where you have a hard time, especially with the
four years he was on the on the clock, where
we have measurables to see that he's not what they
say he is in terms of how he was the
president and how he led. But then you have them
in those moments. I think that that hate and fear
two step doesn't work if you see more of uh,

(39:02):
Donald Trump, like we saw him.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
They just they just paint him as evil.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Well, yeah, I've got this.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I've had a list of of and folks, here's the
scary part when they when they talk about how bad
he is, their next sentence is you're bad. You're the
problem too. So when we look at this, we it's
don't just look at like, wow, you know, they don't
really like him. They don't really like us. Okay, we're
the maga. We're the people that we are as much
of the problem. We have as much desire to be

(39:29):
dictators and to be misogynists and and and racists and bigots.
That is who they think anyone who's voting for President
Trump is. So that's the America they see all of us.
And so it's it's not just reserved for him, it's
that is the that is the venom that comes our
way as well.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Just sounds Howard Stern. Yeah, he doesn't like, he hates,
he hates every one of his I know, unbelievable. Thank you, Howard.
All right, more coming up. We're going to open up
the phones to you tonight and let you talk about
what ever is on your mind. It is time for
thank Ge Rod. It's Friday eight eight eight five seven
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right here on the rod in Greg Shows.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
What's your gut telling you? I feel the momentum for Trump.
I really do. Oh yeah, I do. I probably I
felt like he would win, but I didn't know how
they and I by they, I mean deep state and
the leftists and everything, how they would let that happen. Yeah,
I actually have is this campaign is rolling out. I'm
seeing such a momentum. I mean when you even see

(40:33):
states where he's supposed to not be in play at
all and he probably won't win, like a New York
State in New York City, to see the people that
are coming out in the size and numbers that they
are there is just a I just think there is
a true organic movement related to Donald Trump and I
and I feel not. I think the the teamsters not
backing Kamala is a massive hit to her and a

(40:55):
major benefit to him.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Explain that to people, because you know, you want you
and I grew up in areas of the country where
unions were very strong, Yes, and they really you know,
they say we're behind you, they get behind you. Explain
what happens, so people under this goes what a union
does when it comes to an election.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So this is this goes beyond what contributions they may
provide to campaigns or candidates, and it goes beyond the
rank and file members and the number of members that
are union members who would all vote the same way.
So voting blocks. It comes down to the blocking and
tackling of an election what we call the get out
the vote effort. Okay, you've got to get your people out. Well,

(41:33):
the unions don't give their members a choice. If they
got behind Kamala Harris officially, there would be a get
out the vote effort amongst these members of the union,
for phone banks, for you know, to call to everything.
I mean, they just they there's tons of work that's
and they're not asked, who do you like and if
you like Kamala Harris, would you like to help us
do this? It's part of being in that union. You're

(41:55):
told it's like your shop days. It's it's part of it.
So for that apparatus, for that machine of which it
is to just be shut down in those critical states
of Pennsylvania, and Michigan and Wisconsin and Ohio used to
be one of these states we talk about the same way.
But he looks like President Trump's in pretty good shape
and in Ohio. But that is that that is a

(42:16):
big deal. And it comes because those union bosses look
at sixty percent of their members ready to vote for
Trump and they aren't. They aren't crazy enough to force
them to work that kind of get out the vote
effort against someone they're not going to vote for.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It's it's very powerful, very well organized, and I agree
with you. It is a blow to the Democrats. I mean,
what's it been since ninety six that the union has
not endorsed a candidate. And it's a blow to Kamala
And she met with him just two days prior to yeah,
and couldn't convince him that that she's their woman.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I just don't know of a block. I mean, if
you got if you've got evangelicals to support you, you
don't get to tell whoever leads those those congregations don't
order the members that they have to go and work
for that. I mean, this is a this is this
was really a machine that is not working on behalf
of Kamala Harrison Walls and I think that's a big benefit.
But you know, they say that she has a that

(43:12):
Trump has a gender gap, that women don't want to
vote for him. I just got to tell you, I
think the Hispanic vote just being on head to head,
he's getting more. It's it's it's a momentum. You can
feel it, all right.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
We want to hear from you tonight eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero triple eight five seven
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dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod, let's go
to the phones. We begin in Orum with Mark Tonight
here on the rod In Greg Show. Hi, Mark, how
are you?

Speaker 11 (43:40):
I'm good?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Hey.

Speaker 13 (43:41):
This plan to have people eat their dogs, it's been
a plan in the Democrat Party for years. There's a
book you need to read. It's called It's Time to eat.
The book Eat the Dog, and it's FIRSTUS Sustainable Living
and it's written by I think it's Robert and frind

(44:03):
of Gal. But they're serious about this. They want you
to eat your dog and get a chicken. Ah, and
they're environmentalist. I mean, it's it's weird.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Why does that surprising? It's time to Eat the dog.
I wrote that down. I'm gonna look up that book.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, it's time to eat the dog.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I've been talking about eating dirt, Mark Caledon. So there's
a book on eating a dog.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, so typical too. Yeah, it is surprising.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It is all right, more of your calls coming up,
it is uh, I think g Rod is Friday eight
eight A five seven eight zero one zero, or on
your cell phone, dal Pound two fifty and say hey, Rod,
your calls, your comings coming up right here on Utah's
talk radio one oh five nine k and rs. The
town is being overrun by Haitian immigrants. It's pretty it's

(44:53):
pretty amazing what's taking place, uh, in this country today,
and not only in Springfield. It's starting to happen all
around this all around the country, Greg, even here in Utah.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
The statement that every state is a border state, it
is true. And so these smaller towns are being hit
with numbers and percentages of increasing their population. That's unsustainable.
In public safety, public schools, you name it. Let's go
to the callers who are the smartest listening audience in
all the land. Let's go to David on I fifteen
this afternoon, David, thank you for holding, thank you for
calling into the Rotten Greg Show. What say you about

(45:25):
all this?

Speaker 11 (45:27):
Well, thanks for the compliment, Greg, And my question might
end up in your lap at the end, but I
believe that we should lay the blame for all of
these immigrants landing in our state at the feet of
Governor Cox because he's been working with Governor Polis and
you know, landing him here rather than standing up to
the Feds like the Santas or Texas Governor Abbott have

(45:50):
stood up to the Feds. And I guess my question is, well,
we've seen what the impact has had on Harriman, and
you know, we've got the large population right now and
it still made a big impact. So how do how
do we address governor talks about this? What do we
do as citizens do to yeah, stand up? David.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
It's a great question, and I'll just give you my
my inside baseball. You know, I was a public servant.
I've served in the legislature. I served with Cox now
Governor Cox, but when he was lieutenant governor. And it
goes beyond him. We have even our predominant faith that
has been all in on refugees and in yeah and
helping people. There was some Utah Compact of which I

(46:32):
was the only member of House leadership that would not
vote for this thing because it was clearly unconstitutional for
Utah to have its own immigration process, which was what
the Utah Compact was saying. But there has been David
a strong kind of political push to be more welcoming
to immigrants. And I think maybe if you go back
in time, the numbers we were talking about the cold
and the huddled masses from you know, dictatorial countries, it

(46:55):
was a small number. Maybe what's happening today you cannot
accept them all. And if you go back to in
that when Gaza, when this when October seventh happened and
there was talk about the people in Gaza being attacked,
there was some sentiment from this governor that he would
welcome refuge from Palestinians, of which neighboring Arab nations would

(47:17):
not allow. So we have got to learn from the
lessons that are happening in Aurora, Colorado, in Springfield, Ohio,
and Harriman, Utah. We cannot do this. This is has
unintended consequences. I don't care how much you love, how
much you care you can't harm people under the banner
of caring for people. You just can't. So the only

(47:39):
answer to that, David is we are an election year.
I would just speak up, Just speak up, talk about
these things. Bring the issues up. They certainly are front
burner in the presdential election.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Well, they sure are. Eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero triple eight five seven eight zero one
zero on your cell phone. Just style pound two fifty
and say hey, run. You know, as you bring up,
we are a very caring and kind, compassionate people here
in the state of Utah. Utah nice, yeah, Utah nice.
We want to help people out. But I think you know,

(48:11):
I heard a I want to run this theory pass
to Greg. I think it was Ben Dominich. Is that
his name? You know, he was on Fox News the
other day, and I think he made a very interesting
observation as to how Democrats work in this country. His
observation is Democrats tend to break the law. Okay, he
brought up two cases, Obamacare and illegal immigration. All right,

(48:34):
so they're breaking the law or walking right on the
fine line of breaking the law. Now you have Obamacare
that is so ingrained in our healthcare system anymore. It's massive. Right,
you had the immigration situation, Greg, what ten million people
in this country since Joe Biden took over, all Right,
so they create this problem, okay, and then you come

(48:55):
back to it, Greg, and you say, we've got to
fix it. It is out of contry. And what did
the Democrats say? How are you going to fix it? Yeah?
How are you going to fix it? They make it
so hard and so confusing and so complicated to fix
it that we can't. And that's all part of the
democratic strategy. I thought that was very interesting the way

(49:17):
you put it.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, they do. They make it unworkable, and they hurt
you while they bring everybody in, and then they hurt
you if you even suggest you're going to deport them.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Case in point, It's been reported today that Treasury Secretary
Janet Yellen is warning that the removal of millions of
illegal immigrants from the country could have devastating unintended economic consequences.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I mean no, I'm sorry. We're having the devastating unintended
economic consequences from the mass just opening up the border,
having no security, having nothing there. That is what the
cartel's running all of this with drugs and human trafficking.
That is what that's the unintended economic devastation that we're
feeling to suggest, as she does today, that trying to

(49:59):
remove them, and this is to your point, we create
all of this economic havoc. They will try to say
that you're the worst person in the world if you
want to try and remove people in massive deportation is wrong.
But gut, my gut's telling me that the people are
not buying what they're selling anymore.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Well, the latest survey I saw, I think it was
sixty eight percent of the Americans in this survey, So
they're in favor of a mass deportation. I mean, the
American people say it's gone too far. We've got we've
got to get a handle on this, and it goes back.
I mean then, I mean Harrison said this on the
campaign trail, one of the few things she said, but
she basically said, how are you going to deport them?

(50:37):
I think we're pretty smart people. We can figure it out.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
We'll tell you what's easier getting to the people that
you let in illegally deporting them then coming in and
trying to confiscate three hundred million guns. The people rightfully
own because of the Second Amendment. They want to do that.
They somehow want to have a world where they can
do that. But somebody you can't do any to talk
about or say that you want to remove people. Look,
the law's been broken. We have immigration laws. We do

(51:00):
welcome people to immigrate to this country. And what is
patently unfair are those from other countries, even third world
countries where I've lived, where they want to come to
the United States, but they are under the assumption there
are laws related to that of which they would have
to adhere to, which are hard.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
By the way, I don't take time.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
And they take time, and they're trying very hard to
do it that way. And then you have this blind
eye to illegal behavior, and we're not even supposed to
have a consequence to that, while the real consequence is
being felt by these communities all of us, every state's
border state, poor.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
People in Springfield. All right, more coming up here on
the Rod and Greg Show. If you want to be
a part of the program eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone,
I'll pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, your calls,
your comments coming up here on the Rod or Cat show.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Let's go to Scott in West Valley. Scott, thank you
for holding and thank you for calling in.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Oh.

Speaker 14 (51:49):
I just wanted to address the issue of how we
get rid of the illegal immigrants. And I have a
lot of compassion for them, but they also cause a
lot of harm to you know, unskilled American workers. And
you know, we hear about all these plans of you know,
we bust them or how do we deport them? And

(52:10):
I don't think we have to do any of that.
All we have to do is, you know, they're economic migrants.
Cut off the economics, you know, go after employers that
are hiring illegal immigrants and you know, do things in
the gray side of the economy. And if we cut

(52:33):
off the income, they'll have to go home and they'll
have to do you know, they can just do that
on their own the same way they got here.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, I'm with you on that guy.

Speaker 12 (52:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
The thing and I think Scott was talking greg about everify,
is eve verify something that just simply does not work.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
It worked wonderfully that they just passed the bill back
in twenty one. We passed everify when I was in
the legislature that businesses, including small business has had to
use it. They did, and it was working wonderfully than
twenty twenty one, they repealed it saying, you know, we
don't have any issues of a dandy theft, so we
don't need it anymore. No, it was working, that's why

(53:11):
you didn't And now they've but they repealed it.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Well amazing. All right, back to the phones. Let's start
with Sam in Salt Lake City tonight here on the
Roden Greg Joe, Hi, Sam, how are you.

Speaker 15 (53:21):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Guys? Hey?

Speaker 15 (53:23):
I heard Kamala bragging about how the Biden Harris administration
sent by airplane one hundred thousand pations to America. They
didn't walk across the border, they flew them in here. Yes,
then they sent another fifty thousand by air. They didn't

(53:45):
walk across the border.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
They came in by air.

Speaker 15 (53:48):
Okay. The issue is not whether they ate a dog
or a cat, in my opinion, the issue is there's
fifteen or twenty million illegals in this country spread all
over the place that are putting strain on the schools,
the police, all of our public services. The money that
this is costing is unbelievable. I cannot get anybody in

(54:12):
the media to come up with any direct amounts of money.
Is it a trillion dollars?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Is it?

Speaker 15 (54:20):
Whatever it is? And how the hell does Congress give
a blank check to Biden Harris to do this?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Amen, I'll tell you this too. Yeah, well he deserves me.
He's got me wound up too, because I'll tell you this.
Of the cities and the political jurisdictions that are paying
for this unintended consequence, the public schools, the public safety,
you name it, those budgets haven't been written yet. See,
they're operating off of budgets that were written last year
or the year before. This is a this is an

(54:48):
accelerating and accumulating problem. And our taxes haven't even begun
to increase to the degree that even locally, they're going
to have to raise them or need to because they're
gonna have to pay for it somehow. And and let
me ask you this though, here's a question before we
go to the caller. A higher percentage of Latino voters
who are legal US citizens support Donald Trump and plan

(55:09):
to vote for him in this election. If all of
this deportation talk is so racist, how is it? Tell
me why more Latino voters support Donald Trump's candidacy than Harris.
Tell me, I'd like to know if it's not that
they don't appreciate the illegal immigration as well, that they
did things legally, they're here legally, and they don't want

(55:30):
to see this. I mean, I think it's I think
it speaks volumes for someone that the media has called
racist for how long, that he enjoys a greater percentage
of the Latino vote than this this Democrat ticket.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
You know, I go back to remember that story we
ran a couple of days ago where a reported with
the CBS Morning News went out to Nevada and talk
to people in Nevada about how they feel. She could
find only one person in support of Kamala Harris, but
they The first lady she interviewed talked about illegal immigration.
And this woman, Remember she was saying, I'm sick and
tired of illegal immigration. They come here claiming asylum byes,

(56:06):
they come here for free stuff, and when we are
too stupid to figure out greg that they're coming here
for free stuff, free education, free food, free healthcare, free transportation,
free jobs, basically because you know the employers will hire them,
are paying them deadly.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I mean, come on and think about this It's not
just that they get it free, it's that the American
people are paying through the nose. They have no opportunity
to have free health care, We have no opportunity to
have jobs and get wages that don't have taxes taken
out of them. The stuff that these the benefits that
they enjoy come at the immediate and direct detriment of

(56:47):
the American people. They do. There's no way to argue
around it. And I think that's the double whammy of
this illegal immigration that we have seen over this administration
the time of this administration is it is it is
a draw, it's a magnet. It keeps bringing more because
there's no no one's holding holding them to the law
or enforcing the law, and then it directly harms the

(57:07):
every day America.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Know who's really being heard in all of this, I
think her children, because you know, you have teachers in
the education system who now have to deal with students
who cannot speak English. They've got to take their time
and deal with that as best they can, leaving our
children behind. And our children are the ones that are.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I have a sister in law that is experiencing that directly,
really in her job it's just.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Not fair America and all of you know it. All right, Moore,
coming up our number three, Rod and Greg with you
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
a NRS. There's a big event.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I have loved this month, Greg, because the legislature, what
was it two years ago, I think, declared that the
month we have Hispanic months, we have Black American Month,
we have Gay Pride month, and Utah legislators in their
wisdoms that you know, we should do honor our founding
fathers and honor the Constitution. And that's what September is
all about.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I love it. And it's not just a name only.
There's been some great activities, some great events, and they
keep going.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah yeah. And then matter of fact, there's another one
coming up this Sunday night. As a matter of fact,
it's called a Patriotic inter faith event. It will take
place in American Fork Against Underway seven pm at the
American Heritage School. A number of great speakers. The Utah
Valley Children's Choir will be performing as well, and one
of the speakers is our next guest. His name is
Pastor Chuck Beckle. He's with the Faith Baptist Church. It's

(58:30):
great to have you on, Pastor, appreciate you taking a
few minutes of your time out of your very very
busy schedule. Why, in your opinion, Pastor Beckel, is this
month so important, not only this date, put for the
entire country.

Speaker 16 (58:43):
There's no country on earth like our country. This country
is unique in the fact that it was founded on
the principles of God's word. Every facet of our Founding
fathers founding of this nation was on the word of God.
I'm talking about all the way from the Declaration of
d Tendance, just about every line in there you could
find in a sermon preached fifteen years prior or up

(59:06):
to that time, Thomas Jefferson, supposedly one of the least
religious Founding Fathers, went to be alone and seek the
help of Almighty God and pinning a document that would
withstand the test of time. That the Founding Fathers are.
You know, we're told that they're atheists and deists and

(59:27):
all this. Yet twenty seven of them had theological degrees.
I don't know if there's a single one that claimed
to be a deist. I know that Benjamin Franklin, when
he was fifteen years old, wrote in his diary that
he was searching and he wasn't sure and right now
atheism looks like it might be a possible possibility for him.

(59:49):
Yet shortly thereafter he real he's updated that too. The
only thing that makes sense to me is Christianity and
that there is a creator God. And I just I
feel like our patriotism in our nation is dwindling, and
I believe it's for a simple reason. People don't know
the truth about the founding of this nation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I'll say, And I really appreciate the way you describe that,
because I've often heard people say, well, it's the Tea
Party and you know, represent taxation without representation. No, it
was Plymouth Rock that really was the founding in terms
of the freedom of religion and freedom of exercising your faith.
And you're you're so right. So we live in this
secular world. It doesn't surprise me that patriotism declines as

(01:00:31):
this world becomes more worldly. Uh, what will you say
in your keynote speech or how do we really realign
people and their patriotism to really the foundation of this
fan of this country, and that is our religious freedom.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
I've really been involved in the last two years, and honestly,
I've been heartsickened by I'm going to say this word.
I hope it, I believe it's accurate, and I hate
to say it, but by the corruption, by the distancing
that we've made from the inten of our founding documents
and the ways that people have found to get around
the intent of our founding documents, even in our own

(01:01:09):
state here. And I'll never have the money that it
would take through advertising. And I believe, just like Jesus said,
you shall know the truth, and the truth will make
you free. All we need is the truth. I believe
the state of Utah, and I believe that most of
the United States of America is patriotic enough. In other words,

(01:01:32):
if they could hear the truth, if they knew the
truth about our founding, if they knew the truth about
what happened here initially with even Christopher Columbus or slavery,
many different subjects that we have just the revisionists have
come in polluted the history of our nation. And right
now we're having trouble getting young people to even sign

(01:01:54):
up to defend our nation, defend our country, to get
in the military because they don't have anything to be
proud of when they have everything to be proud of.
The founding of this nation is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Fastor this is the event that you'll be speaking at
on Sunday night is an inner faith event. A number
of faiths will be represented during this wonderful event on
Sunday night. How important is it that all faiths come
together and recognize the importance of the Constitution and our
founding fathers.

Speaker 16 (01:02:20):
It's extremely important because the documents that were founded upon
were designed and are wholly inadequate for anything but a
religious and moral people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
On our Newsmaker line, Pastor Chuck Beckel, he's with a
faith Baptist church, talking about that inner faith event that
is coming up Sunday night down in American Fork. We
will be involved in an event next Wednesday. Yes, we're
going to be reading the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
They assume I know how to read. I think that
I'm flattered.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm flattered on that. But this is a statewide event
and this is the second year they've done this where
they take people from out the community, from throughout the
state and they re sections of the Constitution, and I
think they send it to schools around the state. So
our children can see people reading the Constitution of the
United States.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
When you see the curriculum in schools nowadays, and we
talk about this a lot on the program, and you
see what's happening. Just you know, as we mentioned the
secularization of this of this nation. Sadly, there couldn't be
anything more important than really focusing on our constitution. The
seventeenth of September was Constitution Day. That's when we celebrate
the anniversary of the drafting of our Constitution. And then

(01:03:31):
it's our founders honoring our founding fathers, and so anyway,
I just I think the whole thing is great. I
think the events are great, and I'm happy to be
a part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah, really, Am, It'll be a lot of fun.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
More to come on the Rotten Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN R S.
You know, Greg, there's so many very important issues that
are impacting the country right now in our topics, issues
that you know, voters are deciding on when it comes
to the election coming up in November. You've got immigration,
You've got the economy. Another key issue is crime and

(01:04:02):
keeping your family safe, isn't it is kind of frightening
to think that Americans in some communities don't feel safe anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, and it's growing. This isn't a problem that just
it has become worse and worse and worse as the
Soros prosecutors won their elections, as they began to change
the catch and release policies across this country. As you've
seen just the madness of this administration in the last
almost four years, it is getting more dangerous everywhere. Just
like we're a border state, we have lawlessness that is

(01:04:30):
spreading across this country as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, and people are looking for ways to protect themselves.
And a new sponsor to the show is a company
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And earlier this week I had a chance to talk
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Hero Defense Systems and ask him, first of all, how
the company got started.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
You bet well, Thanks Rod for having us on your show.
This is great to be back in our home, Salt
Lake City.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Good for you, well, come home.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
In Bluffdale, Okay. Dan used to live in Loveland, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Where we do all of our engineering, but now he
lives in back in Mona.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
So this, you know, this was he likes it. This
is home. Salt Lake is important, all right? Tell us
about Hero Defense Systems. What is it exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Well, Hero Defense Systems is a company that saves lives.
We build non lethal products that fit your lifestyle because
they're small and compact. They are discreete meaning you can
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You can put them wherever you need to protect yourself
and your family.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
M crime is a big issue in this campaign this year,
and a lot of people are worried about how do
they protect ourselves? How in your opinion, why is this
maybe the best system in protecting you or your family
from any harm that may come their way.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Well, we designed it from the ground up to be easy,
so that means my mom, who's eighty eight years old,
can pull that trigger. My mom doesn't have to go
through a lot of technology to get the gun ready
like a lot of the products on the market. The
other thing is is that what it puts out the
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(01:06:14):
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and images and all that. But also we have our
new product called Arrow, and what I love about Arrow
is Arrow is filled with gel. Both of our products,
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(01:06:38):
That's a big deal because in temperature differentials like summer
and winter. In winter, CO two kind of just doesn't
act very good really heated environments, so it doesn't act
very good. But gel is going to fire every time
you pull that trigger or you push the button to launch,
is going to be there, and it's going to protect
the active ingredient that we've got. It's called PAVA and

(01:07:01):
PAVA has been tested for over fifty almost sixty years
in Europe and in the United States. It's the number
one irritant choice that the police forces, the military, the
big riot control groups are using to protect themselves families
like you and me, And that's what we've chosen to
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(01:07:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
It saved lives the hero Hero the Hero twenty twenty gun.
It's a gun, but it's not a gun because you
don't have to register. It's non lethal, right, I mean,
you train yourself how to use it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Right, you've done your homework, because you're right on, Rob, Yeah,
you're right on. One of the beautiful things about our
products is not considered a firearm. So I'm glad you
brought that up. The fact that it's not a firearm.
You don't need a permit, you don't need a license,
and you can carry it on you. Now you can't
go into a governmental building or a school, but or
an airplane, but like walking on but you can check

(01:08:03):
it in your luggage and you'll have to check out
with the airlines whether or not they'll allow you. But
for the most part, you can put that in your
checked baggage and you can fly with it. And so
the nice thing about our products is that it really
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easy to use for the student, the mom at home,

(01:08:25):
for somebody that wants a very small product. Ye, no,
I brought a copy of this, and take a look
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that fits in your pocket. And when you open up
this thing with two it's got two safeties on it.
Make sure it doesn't go off on your pocket and
your luggage. You get two shots. Plus it's got a
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Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Did you hear that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Well, that's one hundred and thirty dB. My ears are
hurt and I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
You have headphones on, so I know that hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
But this product is really an up and coming, just
a rock star product. This thing is so good, David.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
What does it do to the person who is attacked
or may want to cause you harm? What does it
do to then just disable them completely? What happens to them?

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Well, that pava that we were talking about earlier actually
causes a spasm. It's called a blaferispasm. That spasm affects
the mucous membr brains and all the nerve sensory things
that are attached to your face, your skin, your eyes,
your ears, your nose, your mouth, your lungs, and that
is what demotivates them, puts them down. They don't want

(01:09:27):
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It's very easy to operate and it does the trick.
Now here's the other thing. If somebody was going to
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It's not designed to shoot sixty feet out and try
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(01:09:49):
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(01:10:13):
get over that fear of what I really be willing
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what the blue is training?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
And red?

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Yeah, this is the real stuff against the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Who is this designed for?

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Well, every product is generally designed for somebody. We were
trying to go for the biggest audience we could which
is the grandma's, the senior people that don't really want
to pull a trigger, so they need non lethal products.
Students that have backpacks, realiters, real estate people that are
going into houses. It's one of the hottest products we're

(01:10:54):
selling right now is inside the real estate industry. People
that are afraid of road rage, people that want to
put something in their car.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
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great talking to you and learning more about Hero Defense systems.
How do people find out more information?

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Com on our newsmaker line. David Clemens, the CEO and
founder of Hero Defense Systems here on the Rodden Gregg Show.
More coming up right here on you Toad's Talk Radio
one O five nine anrs. Did you see any of
that last night by Kamala Harris?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
No, I can't. There's only so much I can do
for this greatest listening audience in all the land, and
watching her on Oprah is just not gonna be. I
couldn't do it. I really couldn't. I think I can't
even get myself to the clips.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Oh that bad?

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Yeah, you're really suffering.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
It's getting really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Well. As part of our Listen Back Friday segments, and
we do this every Friday, where we look for interviews
that we've done with some interesting newsmakers to talk about
the issues of the past week. We had a chance
earlier this week to talk with Alexander Bolton. Alex is
a reporter at The Hill. Bernie Sanders basically came out
and said it, what was it about a week ago? Yeah,
she's making some moves to the middle, but we know

(01:12:28):
she's doing that just to win the election, and once
she wins, she'll come back and be a progressive. That's
not what a lot of people want to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I know, and it's amazing they're saying that before the election.
Usually you say gotcha afterterwards their call on the shot.
That's how crazy it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Well, we had a chance to talk with Alex and
we asked him what he's hearing up on the Capitol
Hill in Washington about the progressives and what they think
about Kamalum trying to move to the middle.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Well, it's interesting, you know, while Harris has taxed to
the political center, while she's remained quite elusive on some issues,
like what she would do on securing the southern border,
what she would do on you know, tax policy. She's
laid out some ideas, but a lot remains to be explained.

(01:13:12):
Despite the migration towards the center and sort of the
tight lipped nature of Harris's campaign, the prominent liberals that
I've spoken to on Capitol Hill feel completely confident that
Harris would be a strong ally as president and would
back them up on fights over taxing the rich, cracking

(01:13:34):
down on carbon pollution, and so, you know, while there
might be some mystery among the general public, guys that
you know, who Harris is as a candidate, progresses on
Capitol Hill feel that she would be firmly in their
court and would be a strong ally.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
So I was struck by this article because basically, and
I think you stated, well, they're saying very Bernie Sanders,
Barry Sanders, not not him. Bernie Sanders says, look, she
has to say I'm paraphrasing here, but basically, when asked
and you report on this or you comment on it,
you know she has to whatever she has to say
to win. That's what we're fine with it. You can

(01:14:10):
do whatever you want. And that's what you're hearing from
Senator Ed Markey from Massachusetts. Elizabeth Warren, you're hearing this
from Bernie Sanders. You're hearing this from the Hawaii Senator
Brian Schatz saying they're really what they're saying is, we
know she's with us, and we know she doesn't want extraction,
and she's for the Green New Deal. We know that

(01:14:30):
she's for Medicaid for all. But if she has to
say this and she doesn't have to use the magic
words so she can get elected, boy, we're fine with that.
That is what a departure to actually admit that you
are fine with positions being taken in Pennsylvanian places that
you don't believe she's actually that she actually means, but

(01:14:51):
if it's necessary to win will they're okay with it.
When you go back to in nineteen eighty eight and
when George Herbert Walker Bush said, read my lips, no
new taxes any and he supported a tax increase, that
was kind of the end of it for him. How
he got one term out of that meeting. People thought
that his positions in a presidential race, he meant them,
and that there was a penalty to pay if you

(01:15:12):
were to depart from them. You fast forward to twenty
twenty four, you're finding that nobody thinks that she is
a going to keep her campaign promises and b they
don't think it's going to be held against her. Is
that basically what we've gotten to in presidential campaigns. You
don't have to actually mean what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
Well, do you remember the old owner of the Los
Angeles and Oakland Raiders, Al Davis? What was his mother?
Just win baby? And that's essentially the message from Democrats,
And they're saying, you know what, Kamala Harris, you can
say whatever you want in Pennsylvania. In Nevada, on the
campaign trail, job number one is beat Donald Trump. And

(01:15:55):
we know you'll be there as a strong ally if
you're elected president. And we know, and these are some
of the biggest progressives in the Senate who are saying this,
we know you'll have our backs, we know that you'll
sign the bills we send to you. And look, the
bottom line here is they know who she is. There's
no mystery. I mean, this isn't you know, like Bill

(01:16:17):
Clinton in nineteen ninety two, a total outsider coming in
and winning the nomination. She served with them in the Senate.
She was with them, you know, at the Brett Kavanaugh
confirmation hearings. She was in the trenches with them. She
voted with them consistently. I think there was a you know,
a rating one of the one of the vote rating groups,
you know, rated her the most progressive member of the Senate.

(01:16:40):
They don't have any questions about who Kamala Harris is.
She is a very strong progressive and they're happy about it.
They're thrilled about it. Now on the campaign trail, you know,
Harris's attacking to the center, as we've seen. But look,
in fairness to her, you know, President Trump is doing
the same himself. And he's talking about maybe the government

(01:17:01):
paying for IVF treatments. I mean, in the past, he's
made statements about you know, social Security. He's even talked
about prescription drug reforms. So, you know, to be fair,
it's the way politics has played these today. But the
I think the main takeaway from my reporting is, you know,
Harris's is a very solid progressive and you know, despite

(01:17:24):
what she might, you know, be how she may be
posturing on the campaign trail, everyone in Washington knows it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Alex, You've been covering the Hill for a number of
years now. How would you describe her relationship with people
like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and Chuck Schumer and
these very progressives in the Senate? What is that relationship like?
I mean, are they close friends? Do they kind of
mind meld together? I mean, what's that relationship?

Speaker 14 (01:17:48):
Like?

Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
Allan Well, you know, you know, you know that another
saying they have is what success has? What a thousand
fathers and failures and orphans? Well, it's kind of the
same here in politics. I mean, look, you know I
went to the convention in Chicago and you know, everyone was,
you know, plying up their ties to you know, Kamala Harris.

(01:18:09):
What great friends that are they are with Kamala Harris,
what they did to help her in her career. You know,
Chuck Schumer, the Senate Majority leader, you know, he had
a meeting with reporters and he really emphasized, look, I
gave her that seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. That
was you know, that was my doing, and I had
to pull some strings to do it because because Dianne
Feinstein was already on the committee. You can't have two
people from the same state on that committee. So he's saying, like,

(01:18:32):
I helped make her who she is today, and other
people have said have said the same.

Speaker 11 (01:18:35):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
The truth is though that you know, when Harris came
to the Senate, she was already looking ahead to the presidency.
So she wasn't really you know, being buddy buddy with people,
and she wasn't really you know, uh, you know, pushing
a lot of legislation, a lot of legislation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
She was.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
She was more of a joiner, you know, to to
you know, to put us succinctly. I mean, she joined
Bernie Sands is you know, Medicare for All package, and
she kind of you know, she she did what she
had to to position herself for the presidency. But I
I don't, you know, she wasn't look she's she's a
very nice and warm person. I think that's come across
and you know some of her interactions on the campaign trail.

(01:19:16):
She's a genuinely nice person, you know, and I truly
believe that. But she was she was really when she
came in the Senate, she was looking out for her
own ambition and she was looking ahead to the presidency.
And by the way, that's not unusual for the Senate.
There are a lot of people who are like that.
And you know, she she got to worsh she got
to where she wanted to go. So there is something
to be said about just, you know, a cold, steely

(01:19:39):
eyed ambition. That's how you get it out in politics.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
So quick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Last question though, so you as a Bellweather, you've shown
that's the most progressive leaders on Capitol Hill absolutely are winking,
nodding and smiling to each other about She's going to
be fine. She's with us all the way. But the
American people and the voters in some of these swing states,
and you talk to the rust belt or Pennsylvania and Michigan,
in Wisconsin and you look at Nevada, are they Is

(01:20:03):
she lacking specificity because she really can't get too far
out there because she would be held to these positions
she's trying to take as a centrist. Are the people
going to believe her when she says she's a centrist?
Or is it? I mean, I guess I'm just wondering
how does this translate in the election? This winking and noughty.

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
Well, that is something that we're going to find out
over the next fifty days. And I think that you know,
what is really helping Harris right now is she didn't
have to run in a primary. There hasn't been a
whole lot of time to vet her and to explain
her to the American public. And that is why Republicans
were very frustrated with this debate last week where they
felt that President Trump did not do a good enough

(01:20:44):
job in pinning her down on positions and getting getting
her to explain what her positions are. So you know,
she's going to be largely explained to the American people
through you know ads, and I mean, as you may
have read all the super pac ads or many of
the super pac ads promoting Harris are trying to explain
her in a positive light. So this is all going

(01:21:05):
to be litigated in you know, an expensive campaign advertising,
which is a shame. But you know what, will voters
eventually believe? That is a big mystery. I can't tell you,
And I don't think I honestly don't think that they're
going to have a very clear idea of Harris when
they cast their ballots, either in early voting or election Day.
And I think this race is shaping up more than

(01:21:26):
anything as a referendum on President Trump. And that's exactly
how Democrats wanted it to play out. They want this
race to be about Trump, not about Harris, and I
think that's what it is at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
As part of our list back Friday segment, our conversation
with Alexander Bolton, a reporter at the Hill, talking about
Democrats betting that Kamala Harris will move to the left
if she is elected president of the United States. More
coming up on the Roden greg Show. Right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Cannais we were
told to wear masks, we were told to distance ourselves

(01:21:58):
six feet. I remember quit into rest runs at the time,
you know, to order something, and they'd have circles on
the floor and you'd have to stand in the circles.
Remember that crazy stuff. That's craziness. Well, one of the
leading critics of what was being done in this country
at the time was doctor Marty McCarey. He is a
professor at Johns Hopkins University, the School of Medicine there

(01:22:20):
in Baltimore. He's got a brand new book out called
Blind Spots. We had a chance to talk with doctor
McCarey earlier this week and I asked him, you know,
take a look back, sit back. It was four years ago.
What are his thoughts right now about how this country
handled the COVID pandemic.

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Well, I would say it's the lack of honesty and humility.
I've not heard a single apology from any one of
these oligarchs in the public health world.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
They got so.

Speaker 10 (01:22:44):
Much wrong from their group think. I mean, the cloth
masks on toddlers for three years. They said it wasn't
going to effect. They're learning, prolonged school closures, ignoring natural immunity.
They did the most dangerous thing you can do as
a government. They fired the two vaccine experts at the
FDA when they challenged whether or not to approve the

(01:23:06):
COVID booster for children, and then they forced it on
children and then censored the doctors who spoke up about it.
That's like the most dangerous thing you can do in
a society, and that's what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Doctor, let me ask you a question. I have my
thoughts as to why. But in your medical profession, this
is your profession. These are peers. You're a thought leader,
but you're also wicked smart. What was the motivation behind
misleading the public and having and then censoring the science,
the research community, the doctors. What was why? Why didn't

(01:23:39):
they want the best information to lead them to the
best decisions.

Speaker 10 (01:23:44):
I think there was a certain pride that they tried
to protect the brand, the institutions, the leaders, the priesthood
of medicine. But we have had terrible leaders in modern medicine.
And in the book, I don't really write about COVID
because people are tired and sick of it and tribal

(01:24:05):
about it. But these same leaders have ushered in over
the last fifty years, the greatest chronic disease epidemic and
human history, and they're so busy focusing on their myopic projects,
funding back coronavirus research in China. We need research on food.

(01:24:27):
As medicine, the medical field has had these oligarchs who
run our hospitals and medical organizations. They're so busy billing
and coding and paying each other and this giant economy.
No one is saying what's going on with the fact
that half of our nation's children are obese now or overweight.

(01:24:48):
So we have developed giant blind spots in modern medicine.
And I think it's just the group think herd mentality
when you elevate a small group of people at the
top to run an entire in industry. We should not
have central planners in government, and we don't need central
planners in medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
What does a public need to do in your opinion
in this regard, doctor McCarey, I mean, how does the
public stand up and say we want something different, we
want to change the system, and it's not working the
way we want it, it's not benefiting us. Now, how
does the public get involved and start saying something.

Speaker 10 (01:25:22):
Well, I think we're seeing a movement now of people
who are demanding honest and fair prices from hospitals instead
of the run around, they're demanding quality metrics. We're seeing
people ask for healthier foods and school lunch programs and
then their everyday purchasing decisions. We've got to we need

(01:25:42):
fresh new leaders in healthcare. I hope we're going to
get them and hopefully soon, but we need new people
at the top. We need to be honest with the public.
You know, I'm a doctor, and if I make a
mistake and I'm totally honest and transparent in real time.
I think patients can be very forgiving. But if you
ignore their concerns, blow them off, don't listen to them,

(01:26:04):
get stuck in your ways, dig in, and then lie
about things, that's the trust you may never win back.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
So doctor, let me just say I appreciate you talking
about the worst thing that can happen is if you
know the science or medical community, healthcare providers ignore concerns,
they dig in. My wife particularly likes RFK Junior a lot,
and I do too. But the reason that a lot
of what he is saying is resonating in the Hughes

(01:26:34):
home is that we believe that we're observing much much
more frequent cases of people on the spectrum of autism,
the peanut allergies, the allergies that children are suffering from,
and then people are seeing it seems to be we
think it is increasing in a time where we didn't
see it, and I don't we don't put this all

(01:26:54):
in the category of well, we're just better at diagnosing everything.
So RFK is learning about this and he's saying this,
our food chain, our supply, there's things, there's things that
are going wrong and we have to get to the
bottom of it. Where do you stand in terms of
our food supply and what's happening by way of more
people with autism, young men with autism or peanuted out

(01:27:17):
all the allergies that we're seeing that people are having
now that we didn't see in the past, where we
have to have a lunch table separate for people that
have peanut allergies. Are you do you a lot? Do
you overlap with RFK and what he's talking about, Junior
in terms of the issues we have there or what's
your worldview or national view on our health and the

(01:27:37):
health of our children related autism and allergies.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
Well, we've done a terrible thing to children. We've poisoned
the food supply engineered highly addictive foods that are really
chemicals in the food supply. Over a thousand of these
ingredients have been banned in other countries, including Europe. And
then we medicate them when they get thick and their
bodies react within a gut inflammation and they have a

(01:28:04):
messed up, altered microbiome. They don't feel good, they feel sick,
they feel sad, they feel low energy, and then we
medicate them. And this is a very dangerous road we're
going down. So I'm going to be testifying before a
Senate roundtable on Monday with RFK Junior, and we're going
to talk about this chronic disease epidemic. I really love

(01:28:27):
what he said when he said, can we love our
children more than we hate each other?

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Our conversation recently with doctor Marty McCarey about his brand
new book called The Blind Spots Here on the Road in
great show, We're all done, week's over, Yeah, super headed
into the weekend. We head into the weekend power Pack show.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
You know it's so great that it's so good. You
got to have some repeats here on a Friday, so
in case you missed any of it, it's too good
to miss.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
That's right, and you can always catch it on our podcast. Well,
as we say each and every week here on the
rod In Greg Joe, head up, shoulders back. God bless
you and your family, this great country of ours. Great.
You have a nice weekend. Yep, everybody have.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
A listening listeners, have a great weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:29:07):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
We'll see you on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Ye be safe out there, Talk to you Monday.

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